HazRPG | wooo! Going to see the family in Egypt soon \o/ | 00:00 |
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Azelphur | popey, yea, it's a radiator :p | 00:03 |
Azelphur | a big one :D | 00:03 |
Azelphur | with 4x 3000RPM fans strapped to the back of it | 00:03 |
Azelphur | I can't wait to turn that on, annoy the neighbours :D | 00:03 |
kaushal | Hi | 00:11 |
kaushal | I have cleared squid cache in squid | 00:11 |
kaushal | I am still unable to reach the global ubuntu mirror | 00:12 |
kaushal | is there a way to know where does squid deb proxy resides ? | 00:15 |
kaushal | in the LAN | 00:15 |
ocean22 | hi guys can any one help me to install adobe flash player on ubuntu 11.04 please | 00:23 |
JGJones | It should be in Software Centre, open that and search for it, does it show up? | 00:40 |
reaper4334 | yeah, the firefox flash plugin is there as Adobe Flash plug-in | 00:47 |
ali1234 | unity is a lot like the eve UI | 01:12 |
hamitron | :( | 01:13 |
ali1234 | i wonder if i can get the eve icon on launcher to show my wallet balance when i mouse over it like the one in eve does | 01:14 |
hamitron | ali1234: for bitcoin! | 01:14 |
hamitron | ;) | 01:14 |
ali1234 | my bitcoin wallet has 0.05 bitcoins | 01:14 |
ali1234 | and i got those from the tap | 01:14 |
hamitron | one day..... | 01:15 |
hamitron | :) | 01:15 |
hamitron | or you given up? | 01:15 |
ali1234 | yes | 01:15 |
hamitron | I'm giving it till the next ubuntu LTS | 01:15 |
ali1234 | generates too much heat and noise | 01:15 |
ging | one day bitcoin will make us all millionares | 01:16 |
hamitron | I suspect some tech in computing will arrive that will collapse the value | 01:16 |
hamitron | but I expect everything to mess up | 01:17 |
ali1234 | nah that won't happen | 01:17 |
hamitron | \o/ | 01:17 |
ali1234 | there is a fixed number of coins | 01:17 |
ali1234 | but what could happen is new tech -> one guy gets them all | 01:17 |
hamitron | common ali1234..... the world is going end as well ;) | 01:17 |
hamitron | yeh | 01:17 |
hamitron | it could certainly wreck it anyway | 01:18 |
ali1234 | at which point the few that are still circulating get really expensive | 01:18 |
ali1234 | but then the one guy will sell all his stock | 01:18 |
ali1234 | then the price will fall over time | 01:18 |
ali1234 | or not | 01:18 |
ali1234 | i mean you never really know | 01:18 |
hamitron | either way, it will be unstable | 01:18 |
hamitron | if you have someone able to click and affect the market like that | 01:19 |
ali1234 | once all the coins are found it does not matter who has how much cpu | 01:19 |
ali1234 | it just makes transactions cheaper | 01:19 |
hamitron | ali1234: won't you get coins for verifying transactions? | 01:40 |
ali1234 | yes | 01:40 |
ali1234 | if people are willing to pay a transaction fee | 01:40 |
hamitron | I read people will have to later | 01:40 |
ali1234 | if verifying transactions is trivial due to technology updates | 01:40 |
ali1234 | then they won't have to pay | 01:41 |
ali1234 | that's how i understand it anyway | 01:41 |
hamitron | I guess | 01:41 |
ali1234 | transaction fee just gives you priority | 01:41 |
ali1234 | so the harder to verify, the less can be verified, the more you have to pay for quicker transfer | 01:41 |
hamitron | I thought you had to pay for larger payments | 01:41 |
hamitron | but it is complicated :/ | 01:42 |
ali1234 | don't think so | 01:42 |
ali1234 | it's just a bribe basically | 01:42 |
hamitron | hehe | 01:42 |
ali1234 | "process my transaction first, get some money" | 01:42 |
hamitron | I like ;) | 01:42 |
ali1234 | if there's no queue to jump there would be no need for fees | 01:42 |
hamitron | less people will run it I guess | 01:43 |
hamitron | could end up with people starting it up, just to pay | 01:43 |
ali1234 | sure, if there's no money in transaction fees and no coins to mine, less people will run it | 01:44 |
ali1234 | supply and demand and all that | 01:44 |
hamitron | but as you said, processing will be trival | 01:44 |
ali1234 | not necessarily | 01:44 |
ali1234 | that's just *if* some weird new tech comes along | 01:44 |
MichealH | <3 AndroIRC so far | 01:44 |
MichealH | I totally like Android | 01:45 |
hamitron | not used it myself | 01:46 |
hamitron | ali1234: the best effect bitcoin has had on me, is it has got me reading about opencl and cuda | 01:47 |
hamitron | :) | 01:47 |
ali1234 | opencl is nice | 01:48 |
hamitron | and it just makes me go "ouuuuuuuuuuuuu" | 01:48 |
hamitron | I haven't done any yet | 01:48 |
MichealH | This android phone is a Sony Ericsson Experia X8 , touchscreen keyboard is really slim, struggling to type! | 01:48 |
hamitron | but read a bit | 01:48 |
hamitron | if it works as good as it appears, tempted to get a graphics card for my server | 01:49 |
hamitron | just something small | 01:50 |
HazRPG | laters all, see ya when I'm on the other side (going to Egypt if ya didn't see the message earlier on) | 01:55 |
HazRPG | \o | 01:55 |
hamitron | cya haz | 01:55 |
hamitron | :) | 01:55 |
HazRPG | hamitron: toodles :) | 01:56 |
* ball ponders | 06:07 | |
MartijnVdS | uh-oh | 06:08 |
knightwise | mornin peeps ! | 06:52 |
* ball falls over | 07:12 | |
knightwise | morning ball | 07:15 |
knightwise | how are you | 07:15 |
TheAshMan | How do I enable a second network card in ubuntu server? | 08:30 |
TheAshMan | (10.04) | 08:30 |
MartijnVdS | just plug it in | 08:31 |
MartijnVdS | !interfaces | 08:31 |
knightwise | morning martijn | 08:31 |
knightwise | ou helped me with the linux podcasting script remember ? | 08:31 |
knightwise | well , i've "mentioned" all of you in the last podcast i did | 08:31 |
MartijnVdS | TheAshMan: You'll want to look at /etc/network/interfaces (manual available: type 'man interfaces') | 08:32 |
knightwise | I did a kind of a 'tribute story' to everybody who helped me. if you have a time to listen to kc 0052 on knightwise.com you might enjoy it | 08:32 |
MartijnVdS | knightwise: uh-oh :P | 08:32 |
TheAshMan | MartijnVdS, The thing is, theres a network cable plugged into it, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig | 08:32 |
MartijnVdS | TheAshMan: ifconfig is deprecated (it shuold show up with ifconfig -a) | 08:33 |
TheAshMan | ahh ok | 08:33 |
MartijnVdS | TheAshMan: "ip addr" should show it as well (as long as it has a mac/hardware address) | 08:33 |
TheAshMan | thanks | 08:33 |
czajkowski | Aloha | 08:34 |
MartijnVdS | \o czajkowski | 08:34 |
DJones | Morning all | 09:03 |
danfish | a hoy hoy saveloy(s)! | 09:14 |
oimon | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13345309 they don't mention that the sub £100 computer runs ubuntu. you pay £30 more for another OS that is compatible with most viruses | 09:14 |
danfish | oimon: quite true, but I bet they won't have the oomph to run Unity 3D ;) | 09:16 |
oimon | i don't have the patience to run unity 3d ;) | 09:16 |
oimon | takes me 10x as long to switch windows | 09:17 |
* davmor2 prods czajkowski | 09:17 | |
oimon | retired people might have the time though :D | 09:17 |
danfish | oimon: you just need MOAR graphics power - dual SLI cards should do fine | 09:18 |
oimon | it's not the hardware, it's the design :( | 09:18 |
MartijnVdS | danfish: QUAD SLI | 09:22 |
MartijnVdS | *ahem* | 09:22 |
danfish | MartijnVdS: showoff ;) | 09:22 |
=== dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 | ||
dogmatic69 | ive got a load balancer (ELB on aws) working, what is the best way to sync the servers under the load balancer | 09:33 |
bigcalm | Files or database? | 09:34 |
dogmatic69 | files | 09:35 |
dogmatic69 | db on a separate box with replication to another db box | 09:35 |
BigRedS | drbd | 09:38 |
bigcalm | Then you've got a setup exactly like how we are moving a big client on to. I have no idea about the file sync either :D | 09:38 |
dogmatic69 | hehe | 09:38 |
dogmatic69 | we in the same boat then :P | 09:38 |
dogmatic69 | BigRedS: any chance of a simple how to guide | 09:39 |
BigRedS | dogmatic69: er, not from me, I've never configured it :) | 09:42 |
BigRedS | I gather it's reasonably simple, though | 09:42 |
bigcalm | Ah, our client didn't want to pay to join AWS, so they are going with RackSpace and dedicated servers | 09:42 |
dogmatic69 | pay to join aws? | 09:43 |
dogmatic69 | its free to join | 09:43 |
bigcalm | I dunno then | 09:43 |
dogmatic69 | they charge you £1 to validate your card details | 09:43 |
bigcalm | For some reason they didn't want to enter the cloud | 09:43 |
* dogmatic69 knows as his card was blocked for fraud | 09:43 | |
bigcalm | Nice | 09:43 |
dogmatic69 | barclays sucks btw | 09:44 |
bigcalm | I need to decide upon a load balencer for the dual box setup. Round Robin DNS or something else | 09:44 |
dogmatic69 | im using aws ELB which is easy to do, guess its not as flexible as using haproxy or something manual | 09:45 |
bigcalm | Is ELB specific to AWS, or available for anybody to impliment? | 09:45 |
dogmatic69 | its aws name Elastic Load Balancer | 09:46 |
dogmatic69 | they add Elastic to the front of everything | 09:46 |
bigcalm | Heh | 09:46 |
dogmatic69 | Elastic IP's | 09:46 |
dogmatic69 | etc | 09:46 |
bigcalm | They'll be selling plasters next | 09:46 |
dogmatic69 | EC2 = Elastic cloud compute | 09:47 |
dogmatic69 | hehe | 09:47 |
dogmatic69 | elastic block storage ~= hdd | 09:47 |
oimon | elastic band = mp3 downloads | 09:47 |
dogmatic69 | elastic band aid could be recovery | 09:48 |
MartijnVdS | and the firewall would be Elastic Protection? | 09:48 |
dogmatic69 | lol | 09:49 |
bigcalm | It's a shame that the RackSpace firewalls can't take a FQDN instead of an IP address for SSH access. Unless I'm mistaken | 09:58 |
czajkowski | davmor2: oi oi | 09:58 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: you following whats going on? | 09:59 |
davmor2 | gord: you are like internet cake.... | 09:59 |
dogmatic69 | bigcalm: rackspace sucks, good luck trying to create HA across different countries etc | 09:59 |
dogmatic69 | they only allow you to create servers in the country you are registered | 10:00 |
czajkowski | davmor2: when I can | 10:00 |
dogmatic69 | want more countries make more accounts | 10:00 |
bigcalm | HA? | 10:00 |
dogmatic69 | high availability | 10:00 |
bigcalm | I see | 10:00 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: cool do me a favour listen in on the thunderbird one and let me know what happens :D | 10:00 |
dogmatic69 | or if you want us users to connect to a us based server and uk users to use the uk one etc | 10:01 |
czajkowski | davmor2: if the streaming holds up sure | 10:01 |
davmor2 | :D | 10:01 |
czajkowski | davmor2: see pm | 10:01 |
oimon | anyone interested in finding out more about the www.alpha.gov.uk new gov website and the backend technologies, please upvote my question http://getsatisfaction.com/alphagov/topics/what_backend_technologies_does_alphagov_use | 10:02 |
gord | davmor2, i am in the lobby area, leaving today, if you don't come find me and say hello then all is lost! | 10:13 |
oimon | wearing a red carnation? | 10:15 |
gord | ha | 10:18 |
davmor2 | gord: be down in 2 seconds be there | 10:20 |
brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:37 |
popey | Morning. | 10:37 |
brobostigon | morning popey | 10:37 |
bigcalm | AFternoon | 10:40 |
brobostigon | hi bigcalm | 10:42 |
hoover | mornin all | 10:50 |
davmor2 | morning brobostigon | 10:51 |
davmor2 | Yay! gord exists after all he isn't internet cake | 10:51 |
brobostigon | morning davmor2 | 10:52 |
popey | Ooo, my GTX 460 arrived | 10:52 |
popey | glad it comes with two power connectors. might have to remove a hard disk to make power capacity available | 10:55 |
davmor2 | gord: safe flight home dude | 10:55 |
s-fox | Hello. | 10:57 |
daubers | o/ | 10:57 |
s-fox | Hello daubers | 10:58 |
s-fox | How goes? | 10:58 |
daubers | Slowly as ever | 10:58 |
danfish | do you think that if my broadband supplier claims to provide "up to 10 mbps" and actually tops out at 2.3mbps I can pay just 23% of the bill? | 11:02 |
dwatkins | danfish: there's probably a clause in the contract that says 'no' | 11:02 |
danfish | I think I already know the answer, but it could be a good legal battle to have (if you'd nothing better to do and the money) | 11:02 |
danfish | dwatkins: :) | 11:03 |
daubers | danfish: You'd probably have a good argument to put yourself on a lower package if they did one | 11:03 |
dwatkins | I switched packages with BT but the guy on the phone didn't realise that the package I was switching to wasn't similar enough to my existing contract, and it charged me the cancellation fee - I complained and they agreed to take it off again, especially as the router was falling over every 24 hours. | 11:06 |
danfish | My connection is OK - it's my parents which is decidedly rubbish. Plusnet - 'good honest broadband from Yorkshire' my arse! | 11:09 |
dwatkins | bethere are quite good in Doncaster. | 11:10 |
dwatkins | no idea what they're like elsewhere | 11:10 |
mfraz74 | I'm on Orange and I'm getting about 12mbps | 11:10 |
* dwatkins fires-up nxclient and tests his bandwidth, knowing full well that the results will be slightly sweked due to nxclient | 11:11 | |
danfish | I've not been able to get freenx running on a 'server' with unity | 11:12 |
danfish | though I can see why it won't work, I can't get work arounds to, er, well, work | 11:13 |
daubers | danfish: I'm on plusnet and not had any issues :) More or less get the peak of my l | 11:13 |
dwatkins | danfish: how about if you choose another window manager? | 11:14 |
daubers | "upto"limit | 11:14 |
danfish | daubers: it's probably not plusnet at all, but local factors, including my Dad's DIY telephone extension cabling :) | 11:15 |
danfish | dwatkins: still seems to be reluctant to fire up a connection - moans about permissions. I can use it in 'windowless' mode and fire up an xterm | 11:16 |
dwatkins | danfish: wierd, I didn't have any such problems - tried creating another user account to test with? | 11:16 |
daubers | danfish: Probably :) The routers plusnet give out are quite poor as well IMHO | 11:16 |
dwatkins | wow, I get 17 Mbps and I'm on ADSL. | 11:17 |
TheAshMan | Anyone help me with bonding 2 NICs? I tried it once and it just killed the connectivity | 11:20 |
MartijnVdS | TheAshMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding | 11:22 |
TheAshMan | Thats the one I followed | 11:22 |
MartijnVdS | TheAshMan: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinkAggregation ? | 11:22 |
MartijnVdS | you probably forgot to move the IP to the virtual (bonded) interface | 11:23 |
danfish | dwatkins: I am actually using neatx rather than freenx, so maybe that's an issue - which are you using? | 11:23 |
TheAshMan | MartijnVdS, What do you mean? I put the IP in the bond config options | 11:23 |
MartijnVdS | TheAshMan: I mean read the LinkAggregation page :) | 11:24 |
TheAshMan | The UbuntuBonding page suggests that I don't need to need to add the bonding to modprobe.d in 10.04+ | 11:25 |
MartijnVdS | I have never used it | 11:25 |
TheAshMan | ahh ok | 11:25 |
daubers | TheAshMan: Some bonding methods require the switch to support them too | 11:33 |
oimon | nice answer: http://getsatisfaction.com/alphagov/topics/what_backend_technologies_does_alphagov_use " It is all based on open source tools, and we're hoping to release some of our code too." :D | 11:39 |
bigcalm | PHP coders: is there a prefered Twitter API libary? There seem to be a few http://cuth.eu/7tKWNM Requirement is sending writing updates only | 12:09 |
dutchie | good high st shop to buy webcam/microphone? | 12:12 |
BigRedS | Mine came from Tesco | 12:13 |
MartijnVdS | dutchie: any | 12:13 |
bigcalm | dutchie: cheap as chips from super markets. Doubt PC World will rip you off that much | 12:13 |
dutchie | the one i got from tesco sucks | 12:14 |
dutchie | dunno if there is a pc world in the interesting bit of oxford | 12:14 |
MartijnVdS | ♥ http://www.mediamarkt.com/ | 12:15 |
popey | dutchie: are you going to buy a cheap/crap one, or one that works? | 12:15 |
dutchie | i would prefer one that works | 12:15 |
dutchie | since i already have a cheap/crap one | 12:15 |
popey | logitech ones are nice | 12:16 |
* bigcalm nods | 12:16 | |
popey | and mostly work on non-evil-os | 12:16 |
MartijnVdS | Mac support usually means UVC means Linux support :) | 12:16 |
BigRedS | my logitech one was a tenner from tesco and has worked on everythign I've plugged it into | 12:16 |
popey | http://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-620&y=64&z=-175&zoom=-1 | 12:17 |
* popey wonders who built that castle | 12:17 | |
popey | its pretty awesome | 12:17 |
MartijnVdS | popey: wow.. | 12:17 |
bigcalm | I just found my Pro 5000 (along with a USB rocket launcher) | 12:17 |
bigcalm | popey: that's dedication and cool | 12:18 |
bigcalm | I wonder who started the space invaders game to the north-west of that castle | 12:18 |
MartijnVdS | it looks a bit King's Quest I | 12:18 |
MartijnVdS | bigcalm: or the pirate ship | 12:19 |
* bigcalm loads up minecraft to continue with space invaders | 12:20 | |
bigcalm | :D | 12:20 |
MooDoo | hello all | 12:47 |
czajkowski | MooDoo: aloha | 12:51 |
MooDoo | czajkowski: hiya :D | 12:52 |
MooDoo | it's either quiet, lunch or everyone is at UDS | 12:55 |
MartijnVdS | or all 3 | 12:57 |
MooDoo | aye | 13:02 |
=== davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
popey | Azelphur: hows the mining going? | 13:33 |
seeker | popey: How on earth does someone get that much stone? | 13:35 |
popey | have you seen rogers hole? | 13:35 |
popey | http://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-417&y=64&z=138&zoom=-1 | 13:36 |
seeker | The one in the sea near my island? | 13:36 |
popey | that goes all the way down to the bottom | 13:36 |
popey | which would give you a lot of cobble | 13:36 |
popey | also, ali1234 mined out the underneath of the pyramid, there's loads there | 13:36 |
oimon | what do you do once you've made these things? | 13:40 |
oimon | it is purely a construction game or is there a point where you "use" it | 13:40 |
JGJones | Build another project :) | 13:40 |
oimon | i don't think i "get" it | 13:40 |
JGJones | oimon, it's essentially a giant lego game. | 13:41 |
oimon | at least in the sims, you can "live" in your houses | 13:41 |
popey | oimon: do you "get" lego? | 13:41 |
oimon | i'm not deliberately trollling, i'm just wondering if there's something i missed | 13:42 |
popey | it was a serious question | 13:42 |
oimon | popey: i get real lego. i wouldn't get virtual lego | 13:42 |
popey | why? | 13:42 |
oimon | i make airfix models | 13:42 |
popey | thats not lego | 13:42 |
popey | I'm specifically drawing the "it's like lego" comparison | 13:42 |
JGJones | oimon, I thought it was pointless when I first heard of it...a game with no story, no...um...plot. No ending etc. Now I can't stop playing the damn game :) | 13:42 |
oimon | lego is a toy for < 8 yr olds | 13:43 |
popey | rubbish | 13:43 |
popey | i play with lego with my 4 year old son | 13:43 |
popey | and I enjoy it as much as he does | 13:43 |
JamesTait | popey: +1 | 13:43 |
oimon | but you wouldn't play with it if 4yr old wasn't there | 13:43 |
* JamesTait does | 13:43 | |
JGJones | Me too and my son's now 13 and still play with lego :) | 13:43 |
popey | you're taking being a grumpy old fart to olympic levels | 13:43 |
oimon | i will enjoy playing lego when my son is old enough | 13:44 |
popey | i know adults who play with lego, and they have no children | 13:44 |
JGJones | And I even play with it on my own. the biggest advantage of Minecraft over Lego? | 13:44 |
JamesTait | But I also don't find Minecraft particularly appealing. To each their own. | 13:44 |
popey | I also play minecraft with my kids | 13:44 |
oimon | but i will enjoy doing something with my son. | 13:44 |
popey | all three of us playing together | 13:44 |
oimon | that sounds fine to me | 13:44 |
JGJones | You can't in the middle of night step on a tiny lego block lying around and curse aloud. | 13:44 |
JamesTait | I did love SimCity though, even though I didn't think I would. | 13:44 |
popey | yeah, I loved the original simcity too | 13:44 |
popey | note that minecraft isnt finished yet | 13:45 |
oimon | simcity has a purpose, even if it is to make a massive city and loads of cash | 13:45 |
popey | they _are_ adding 'game' elements to it | 13:45 |
popey | minecraft will too oimon | 13:45 |
oimon | ok..that was my question | 13:45 |
popey | it just doesn't yet | 13:45 |
JamesTait | So if I did actually start playing Minecraft, I may well become hopelessly addicted. | 13:45 |
popey | they added achievements in the most recent update | 13:45 |
popey | JamesTait: this is likely :) | 13:45 |
oimon | believe me when i'm not trolling, i just wanted to know if there's a point | 13:45 |
JamesTait | Which is another reason for me not to play it, because I don't have time for another vice. | 13:45 |
popey | oimon: there is a point, it's fun | 13:45 |
popey | having fun _is_ a point | 13:45 |
JGJones | aye...in popey's server - a railway system is getting build - so it's like building a city now although with strange buildings :) | 13:46 |
popey | heh | 13:46 |
oimon | not having played it, i thuoght the fun would wear off a bit..but i really know very little about the game besides watching some youtune and looking at your map | 13:46 |
popey | glad we dont have a council dictating the planning rules :) | 13:46 |
oimon | can you ride on the railway | 13:46 |
popey | the fun can wear off, as with anythin | 13:46 |
popey | yes | 13:46 |
JGJones | that's true...no planning permission required to blow up a mountain | 13:46 |
oimon | any youtube clips ;) | 13:46 |
popey | I'm currently building a long extension to the railway | 13:46 |
JGJones | oh some people even use the rails system to make a giant rollercoaster...hmm...that's a project to do next... | 13:47 |
popey | http://popey.com/minecraft/gmap/?x=-475&y=64&z=1585&zoom=-4 | 13:47 |
popey | ^^^ my new leg of rail | 13:47 |
JGJones | I saw that...was wondering who was building that and how they managed to find all that iron to do it :) | 13:48 |
popey | ahem | 13:49 |
JamesTait | Better start shutting my laptop down, I have a session to attend right round the other side of the hotel shortly. | 13:49 |
popey | o/ | 13:49 |
JamesTait | I really wish suspend and resume worked on my machine. | 13:50 |
JamesTait | I really wish I had more time to start figuring out why it doesn't. | 13:50 |
* JamesTait waves | 13:50 | |
JamesTait | ttfn | 13:50 |
dwatkins | ciao | 13:51 |
dwatkins | I need to allocate enough swap to be able to do that | 13:51 |
* popey wonders what machine he has | 13:51 | |
BigRedS | network mangler's put me of wanting suspend to work | 13:55 |
BigRedS | though everything bar nm seems to cope with resuming quite happily | 13:55 |
bigcalm | Any PHP devs in here done any work with the Twitter API? | 14:04 |
BigRedS | my brother has, and I think he's on jabber, so I can forward simple questions at him? | 14:05 |
MattJ | Jabber \o/ | 14:05 |
bigcalm | What's his choice of library? As there are several on offer | 14:05 |
BigRedS | hah, jabber's become a synonym for 'IM' as far as I'm concerned now :) | 14:05 |
MattJ | :) | 14:05 |
BigRedS | bigcalm: I've asked him, but he went 'away' between my checking and you asking, so I might have to get back to you when he's back | 14:06 |
bigcalm | BigRedS: thanks :) | 14:06 |
BigRedS | no probs, | 14:07 |
BigRedS | though I've not got you an answer yet :) | 14:07 |
bigcalm | But thank you for taking the time to ask :) | 14:08 |
dwatkins | has anyone here used netcat to test the stability of an inter-office network connection? I think there are occasional disconnects, and would like to gather information, netcat seems like it might do what I need. | 14:23 |
MattJ | dwatkins: are you sure it's what you want? | 14:42 |
MattJ | If you want to monitor a connection, something like Wireshark would probably be better | 14:42 |
dwatkins | MattJ: not entirely, I've asked them to just run a ping for 10 minutes | 14:44 |
MattJ | Try mtr instead, it will show you at which hop the pings get dropped | 14:45 |
MattJ | and it can run continuously | 14:45 |
dwatkins | thanks MattJ | 14:46 |
jpds | dwatkins: Sounds like someone is hijacking their IP address. | 14:47 |
* popey files bug 781154 | 14:47 | |
lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 781154 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu) "Wishlist: Figlet export ASCIIfied BFD to /usr/share/figlet*.flc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781154 | 14:47 |
dwatkins | jpds: aha, good call, I'll make certain they check that - thanks :) | 14:49 |
* AlanBell observes that popey has finally lost it | 14:57 | |
bigcalm | AlanBell: I agree. Completely loopy :) | 14:59 |
bigcalm | Because of the lack of <pre>, the double spaces in the M are reduced to single which breaks the rest of the word | 14:59 |
bigcalm | Tut tut | 14:59 |
bigcalm | The program 'figlet' can be found in the following packages: | 15:01 |
bigcalm | * toilet | 15:01 |
bigcalm | * figlet | 15:01 |
bigcalm | Unexpected | 15:01 |
Psychobudgie | figlets often have that effect on me | 15:04 |
bigcalm | HEh | 15:04 |
bigcalm | Pyrus (PHP PEAR) - yay or nay? | 15:35 |
Psychobudgie | hay | 15:35 |
bigcalm | Humm, requires PHP 5.3+ | 15:36 |
BigRedS | 5.3 is what all the cool kids are using these days, apparently | 15:39 |
bigcalm | 5.3 breaks CakePHP 1.1 | 15:42 |
bigcalm | One of our client's project is in CakePHP 1.1 and with no budget or desire to upgrade the framework | 15:43 |
bigcalm | Which is a pain as a dev | 15:43 |
bigcalm | Another client's project uses an old version of moregroupware that only runs on PHP 4 | 15:44 |
* bigcalm shudders | 15:44 | |
dogmatic69 | could anyone let me know if this is in the right direction for a server setup http://oi55.tinypic.com/316x92b.jpg | 15:45 |
bigcalm | If the main database server goes down, what access is there to aws? | 15:46 |
bigcalm | Oh, I see | 15:46 |
bigcalm | :) | 15:47 |
bigcalm | Did you work out file sync? | 15:47 |
dogmatic69 | bigcalm: not done file sync yet, only have 1 loadbalancer to 1 server + master db | 15:50 |
dogmatic69 | i just dont know what if the load balancer goes FFFFUUUUUUUU | 15:50 |
dogmatic69 | 6x servers sitting round doing nothing | 15:50 |
bigcalm | With round robin dns it would continue to work | 15:52 |
dogmatic69 | this is aws elastic load balancer | 15:53 |
bigcalm | Do they say what would happen in that case then? | 15:55 |
bigcalm | There hasn't been any package updates for 10.04.2 for a few days. I wonder what's wrong | 15:58 |
popey | do you not have postfix or exim installed? | 15:58 |
popey | you should get an update for the security issues on those | 15:59 |
bigcalm | apticron is installed on all of my servers. It's been quiet for a while | 15:59 |
bigcalm | There we go | 16:00 |
bigcalm | Did a manual update and postfix wanted updating | 16:01 |
bigcalm | Guess it's just been quiet for a bit | 16:01 |
oimon | !ingo apticron | 16:01 |
oimon | !info apticron | 16:01 |
lubotu3 | apticron (source: apticron): Simple tool to mail about pending package updates. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.45 (natty), package size 12 kB, installed size 112 kB | 16:01 |
oimon | have updates on my desktop though | 16:02 |
oimon | chromium seems to update every day | 16:02 |
oimon | guys, seen this? http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/government-save-millions-ict read stuff on el reg about it but the details look promising | 16:05 |
popey | anyone good with ATI cards in Ubuntu? | 16:06 |
oimon | http://tumbleweed.popey.com/ | 16:23 |
oimon | :D | 16:23 |
popey | indeed | 16:34 |
czajkowski | hmmm | 16:40 |
czajkowski | who knew job centre folks would make you fill out a ton of paper work | 16:40 |
czajkowski | fecking hell 2 days in a row | 16:41 |
popey | Get a job you bum! | 16:41 |
popey | :) | 16:41 |
czajkowski | Do_Not_Go_There | 16:41 |
kazade | popey, I know some ATI stuff.. | 16:42 |
popey | kazade: seems the issue was resolved with a reboot :) | 16:42 |
popey | thanks though | 16:42 |
kazade | ah k | 16:42 |
kazade | sorry, I forgot about IRC for a few hours there ;) | 16:42 |
popey | :) | 16:43 |
oimon | czajkowski: has something bad happened? i thought you worked at sirius? | 16:45 |
czajkowski | oimon: I did, nothing bad just contract finished. | 16:45 |
oimon | ah ok | 16:45 |
oimon | what you looking for? | 16:46 |
czajkowski | not sure back to more techincal work or more open source if I can get it, or plan D anything | 16:46 |
popey | Plan F: Wait on tables | 16:46 |
DJones | Doesn't gord need a biscuit & coffee gofer - That could be a full time job | 16:48 |
czajkowski | DJones: gord has cats | 16:48 |
czajkowski | this is a no go | 16:48 |
Azelphur | there, my water cooled monster is up and running properly :D | 16:48 |
popey | Azelphur: hows the mining? | 16:49 |
Azelphur | popey: havn't started yet, I'm going to start overclocking tonight | 16:49 |
popey | haha | 16:49 |
popey | BTC up to nearly $6USD each today :) | 16:49 |
Azelphur | is that what you have? | 16:50 |
popey | is what? | 16:50 |
Azelphur | 6 USD/day | 16:50 |
popey | I was just quoting the exchange rate | 16:50 |
popey | no, thats how much they're selling for | 16:50 |
Azelphur | wtf, it was $3 like a week ago | 16:50 |
popey | $5.80 or so | 16:50 |
popey | yeah | 16:50 |
Azelphur | jeez | 16:50 |
popey | indeed | 16:50 |
popey | and getting ever harder to mine as the days go by :) | 16:50 |
Azelphur | hehe, not so much for me | 16:51 |
Azelphur | I can do 150mhash/sec without overclocking | 16:51 |
oimon | i shouldn't do major software upgrades so late in the day :( | 16:51 |
popey | it gets harder for everyone | 16:52 |
oimon | popey: i have acess to a HPC cluster..can i make a small fortune in producing bitcons? | 16:52 |
popey | if they have GPUs, probably yes | 16:52 |
popey | if you can sell them :) | 16:53 |
oimon | few hundred nodes...usually they are looking for planets but hey | 16:53 |
popey | heh | 16:53 |
oimon | they are looking for a linux cluster admin if anyone is interested | 16:53 |
oimon | i think it's been mentioned on linuxjobs | 16:54 |
Azelphur | popey: my bitcoin doesn't seem to want to connect, haha | 16:54 |
popey | failure | 16:55 |
Azelphur | oh there we go, 1 connection | 16:56 |
Azelphur | 0 connections :( | 16:56 |
popey | heh | 16:56 |
Azelphur | popey: 40C idle, 55.5C running stress --cpu 8 | 16:58 |
Azelphur | so 55.5C is my absolute max temp that'll ever happen :D | 16:58 |
Azelphur | oh wait, 55.5 but I don't have the fans at all cranked up. Lets crank the fans up :D | 17:00 |
bigcalm | Only just read about bitcoin. Guess it's not big news yet | 17:06 |
popey | its been mentioned on cnn | 17:06 |
bigcalm | I don't watch cnn | 17:06 |
popey | neither do i | 17:06 |
popey | i was merely indicating it's maintsreamness | 17:06 |
bigcalm | I see | 17:06 |
popey | the more people who get involved the harder it is to generate coins apparently | 17:07 |
bigcalm | Seems little point to it if it doesn't actually work | 17:07 |
popey | define work | 17:08 |
* popey pokes dutchie | 17:09 | |
dutchie | what | 17:09 |
bigcalm | I don't see myself paying my rent with it :) | 17:09 |
dutchie | why am i being poked? | 17:09 |
* Azelphur pokes dutchie | 17:09 | |
dutchie | this is worse than facebook | 17:10 |
popey | look up dutchie | 17:10 |
popey | same convo in two channels | 17:10 |
dutchie | yes | 17:10 |
dutchie | btc is annoying | 17:10 |
bigcalm | Heh | 17:10 |
dutchie | every day i think "oh far too expensive to buy any now, should have done it months ago" | 17:10 |
dutchie | then the next day they have gained another 50% of value | 17:11 |
dutchie | i suspect i would not do particularly well in the world of stocks and shares | 17:11 |
danfish | dutchie: you're doing a maths degree aren't you? the analytical arms of broking houses love that sort of degree | 17:19 |
bigcalm | Oh I do like "Send to phone" in chrome :) | 17:19 |
bigcalm | Until I get a tablet, reading documentation will be done on my phone | 17:20 |
bigcalm | (I need to rest my back but do research at the same time) | 17:20 |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Jonathan Riddell] Ubuntu Developer Summit in Budapest - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4429 | 17:24 |
popey | Azelphur: you doing pooled mining? | 17:24 |
popey | Azelphur: and what cards did you go for in the end? | 17:25 |
Azelphur | popey: I might do. | 17:25 |
Azelphur | popey: I havn't build a bitcoin miner, this is just my personal PC xD | 17:25 |
popey | sure | 17:25 |
Azelphur | although using my idle time for bitcoin sounds like fun. | 17:25 |
Azelphur | I have a GTX 570 and a 8800GT | 17:25 |
dutchie | danfish: i have no desire whatsoever to go into finance of any type | 17:26 |
popey | http://www.ebuyer.com/product/262643 holy cow | 17:26 |
danfish | dutchie: good on you :) | 17:27 |
popey | people seriously buy video cards that are 600+notes? | 17:27 |
DJones | Whats the betting you need the nvidia driver for it | 17:27 |
Psychobudgie | I used to comically buy them | 17:27 |
popey | wonder if unity will work better with this GTX460 than my old 7900GT :) | 17:28 |
Psychobudgie | well it works absolutely fine with my 8600gt | 17:29 |
Psychobudgie | when I say it works absolutely fine, I mean from a graphical performance perspective of course | 17:29 |
popey | it's certainly better once you get rid of the stupid delays in alt-tab | 17:30 |
popey | why on earth you'd want to deliberately slow down the act of switching from one app to another, I can't quite fathom | 17:30 |
Psychobudgie | for the same reason many other decisions where made in unity | 17:31 |
Psychobudgie | drugs. stay away from them or if they didn't take drugs, take more of them | 17:32 |
popey | i suspect its a compiz default | 17:32 |
popey | not a concious decision | 17:32 |
Psychobudgie | after much tinkering, playing and tampering I've gone back to gnome 2 and docky | 17:32 |
Psychobudgie | it's superior in every wat | 17:33 |
Psychobudgie | way even | 17:33 |
reaper4334 | same, gnome 2 is just much more customisable | 17:35 |
Psychobudgie | gnome 3 was ok but still has many issues that they need to sort out | 17:35 |
popey | you change your tune :) | 17:36 |
popey | < Psychobudgie> in that case put gnome 3 on all the new machines, they'll love you for it | 17:37 |
Psychobudgie | popey, that was in response to him commenting that his staff don't like anything new | 17:37 |
popey | I know :) | 17:37 |
popey | I was pulling you leg. | 17:37 |
Psychobudgie | heh | 17:38 |
Psychobudgie | gnome 3 though is still a million miles better than unity | 17:38 |
reaper4334 | I don't know, I'm not sure about the window management and the way that the workspaces now work | 17:39 |
Psychobudgie | workspaces work surprisingly well | 17:39 |
Psychobudgie | window management while not perfect is way better than unity | 17:39 |
Psychobudgie | can atleast find the window I need quickly in gnome 3 | 17:39 |
reaper4334 | gnome 3's workspace management ran realllly slowly with in onboard graphics 'cause of the "slide" on sort of effect changing workspaces | 17:40 |
reaper4334 | so I kinda gave up with it | 17:40 |
reaper4334 | that, and I couldn't figure out how to move the close button to the left | 17:40 |
Psychobudgie | reaper4334, did you try using fallback mode | 17:40 |
reaper4334 | What's fallback mode? I can't say I looked into it for long | 17:41 |
Psychobudgie | it's for onboard chipsets, etc | 17:41 |
Psychobudgie | less graphic effects | 17:41 |
reaper4334 | ah, I didn't know about that. Whereabouts would I find it? I might have to give it another try with that | 17:41 |
Psychobudgie | don't know, never had to use it. It's mentioned on the gnome 3 site though | 17:42 |
reaper4334 | fair enough, I'll have a look into that and give it another try then | 17:42 |
reaper4334 | Does anyone know how to make xchat automatically identify with nickserv? | 18:04 |
kkitano | you need to ctrl-s | 18:08 |
kkitano | and go to edit | 18:08 |
kkitano | and u put your nickserv password there | 18:09 |
kkitano | u also might want to add "set irc_join_delay 5" in connect command | 18:09 |
kkitano | to stop it trying to join your channels before indentifying | 18:10 |
reaper4334 | ctrl-s saves discussion transcript? | 18:10 |
kkitano | go to xchat->network list | 18:10 |
reaper4334 | thanks, I tried that.. I'll reconnect and see if it works | 18:13 |
reaper4334 | yeah I think that worked, thanks | 18:16 |
kkitano | cool :) | 18:16 |
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Azelphur | popey: grr, it takes me like 2 hours to get a bitcoin connection | 18:50 |
Azelphur | wonder what's up with it :s | 18:50 |
Azelphur | still, mining now :D, currently pulling 130k mhash | 18:52 |
kkitano | what is bitcoin mining? | 18:59 |
MartijnVdS | bitcoins | 19:00 |
DJones | kkitano: From the descriptions, bitcoins seem to be internet money backed by fresh air | 19:26 |
Azelphur | damn, conky is annoying me. | 19:27 |
Azelphur | It keeps crashing with "Conky: you don't need that many fonts, sorry." | 19:27 |
Azelphur | what a stupid, annoying error. | 19:27 |
MartijnVdS | Azelphur: well, you don't need that many fonts! :) | 19:28 |
Azelphur | \o/ | 19:28 |
Azelphur | except that I do, I have a rather intricate setup I worked on for quite a while :/ | 19:28 |
MartijnVdS | Azelphur: 13 years ago: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981017 | 19:29 |
Azelphur | exactly :p | 19:30 |
Azelphur | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/Janurary%202011/2011-01-13-041505_3840x1200_scrot.png my conky setup wins :( | 19:30 |
Azelphur | it also needs lots of fonts. | 19:30 |
MartijnVdS | Lots of fonts is usually a sign of doing it wrong :) | 19:32 |
Azelphur | or the sign of using weather and icon fonts. | 19:33 |
Azelphur | MartijnVdS: I think it's actually complaining more because I use the same set of fonts often, rather than different fonts too | 19:34 |
Azelphur | omg, it just crashes randomly with that error, so annoying :/ | 19:38 |
Azelphur | it runs for a while then dies :( | 19:39 |
Azelphur | I guess I'll try taking an icon font out and using images to replace it... *sigh* | 19:40 |
Azelphur | if it really comes to it I guess I'll have to do something totally retarded like embedding the static text that conky renders onto my wallpaper. | 19:43 |
Azelphur | yep still errors, embedding text into the wallpaper ftw. | 19:45 |
matthew_ | evening all - I'm getting a "504 gateway time-out" on the Ubuntu One Music store (via RhythmBox) for the last couple of evenings - is it actually down? | 19:46 |
popey | Azelphur: I do love your conky setup | 19:52 |
popey | matthew_: no idea, I'd ask in #ubuntuone | 19:52 |
allooba | Hi | 19:55 |
allooba | I have aproblem in connecting with en0 | 19:56 |
allooba | can someone help plz | 19:56 |
allooba | hello | 19:56 |
allooba | any one here | 19:56 |
JGJones | Azelphur, that's an awesome conky setup there :) | 19:58 |
allooba | I need help | 19:58 |
allooba | I am facing aproblem with connection | 19:59 |
reaper4334 | I've never tried conky, does it go well with unity? | 20:05 |
ali1234 | http://alpha.gov.uk/ ........ oh dear | 20:12 |
tugrik | oh dear? | 20:12 |
ali1234 | yes, oh dear | 20:13 |
ali1234 | they let web designers make it | 20:13 |
ali1234 | which means it's impossible to find anything | 20:13 |
ali1234 | but it sure does *look* nice | 20:13 |
ali1234 | it will look horribly dated in about 6 months of course | 20:14 |
reaper4334 | and ironically the first thing it says is "Alpha.gov.uk is an experimental prototype of a single UK Government website. It aims to be as simple as possible..." | 20:14 |
ali1234 | yes | 20:15 |
ali1234 | that's why everything is in 16pt font | 20:15 |
ali1234 | incase you have bad eyesight and you don't know how to zoom in | 20:15 |
reaper4334 | yeahh | 20:15 |
ali1234 | of course since everything is in 16pt, there's hardly any room for more than about 10 words on each page | 20:15 |
ali1234 | but that's ok, because too many words just confuses people | 20:15 |
MartijnVdS | Haha: "that 6 megabyte video becomes 8 MB for transit because it has to be encoded as 80 column lines that are safe for punch cards" http://blog.mimecast.com/2011/02/why-is-email-so-complicated-part-221-the-legacy-of-punch-cards/ | 20:19 |
GreenDance | Hi, I've done a minimal Ubuntu install, but I have no sound, could someone tell me what I need to do to get sound, Thank You | 20:31 |
reaper4334 | What sound card do you use? | 20:32 |
GreenDance | I'm not sure, I'm using a laptop | 20:33 |
reaper4334 | What laptop is it? | 20:33 |
GreenDance | acer | 20:33 |
reaper4334 | Not sure. Have you tried checking to see if any additional drivers need to be installed? | 20:33 |
reaper4334 | System Settings -> Additional Drivers | 20:33 |
MartijnVdS | for a sound card? | 20:34 |
GreenDance | pardon? | 20:35 |
GreenDance | is there a command line command I can do? | 20:36 |
MartijnVdS | GreenDance: try alsamixer first -- see if the channels aren't muted | 20:37 |
ocean22 | hi guys I recently installed ubuntu 11.04 on my hp pavilion laptop dv6-3150 sa. i am using gnome interface and my compiz is not wokring, can any one help | 20:41 |
ocean22 | pls | 20:41 |
ocean22 | i have got switchable graphics inside | 20:42 |
ocean22 | ati+intel | 20:42 |
MartijnVdS | ocean22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics | 20:43 |
ocean22 | MartijnVdS, thanks, i had a look at that, i think switcheroo is already installed, where can i find it to switch | 20:44 |
popey | reaper4334: cat /proc/asound/cards | 20:45 |
popey | reaper4334: anything listed there? | 20:45 |
reaper4334 | popey, did you mean to ask that to GreenDance? | 20:52 |
daubers | Lightning is rubbish | 20:55 |
daubers | I can't seem to find a way to customise the printed calender very much | 20:55 |
popey | oops | 20:59 |
* daubers considers altering the JS to pull a stylesheet from somewhere else | 20:59 | |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S04E06 Look for the Truth - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/05/11/s04e06-look-for-the-truth/ | 21:25 |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Alistair McKinlay] Video of the Week: Chromebooks - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/05/video-of-the-week-chromebooks/ | 21:25 |
czajkowski | popey: fix your url link | 21:31 |
czajkowski | extra S | 21:31 |
DJones | Heh www.pocket-lint.com seems to be having problems, nice error message being displayed http://www.pocket-lint.com/images/im-in-ur-serverz.gif | 21:35 |
DJones | And seems to be fixed very quickly | 21:35 |
popey | czajkowski: can you be slightly more specific? | 21:38 |
czajkowski | S04E06 S Look for the Truth | 21:38 |
czajkowski | the S | 21:38 |
czajkowski | is there a reason for it or am I being thick in reading it ? | 21:39 |
popey | not a problem I can fix | 21:39 |
popey | its the bot, not the site | 21:39 |
popey | possibly a unicode issue | 21:39 |
czajkowski | ah okie dokie | 21:40 |
czajkowski | but not me being thick | 21:40 |
czajkowski | which ya know is also possible | 21:40 |
popey | :) | 21:40 |
Mr-Woof | lo all | 21:41 |
popey | hello | 21:41 |
czajkowski | http://chrome.angrybirds.com/ <<--- | 21:43 |
ali1234 | you could use - instead of – | 21:43 |
popey | dunno where the – comes from | 21:44 |
popey | i think wordpress is doing it | 21:44 |
mgdm | popey: it does | 21:46 |
popey | ah | 21:46 |
popey | silly wordpress | 21:46 |
mgdm | it also has a function that capitalizes any mention of the word 'Wordpress' properly | 21:46 |
mgdm | on every request, content or template | 21:47 |
popey | oh dear | 21:47 |
ali1234 | lol | 21:47 |
czajkowski | mgdm: I wish Ubuntu did on its system | 21:47 |
popey | I had a tweet from a friend today | 21:47 |
popey | "If I ask nicely will you install Ubuntu on my Dads PC?" | 21:47 |
czajkowski | awwwww | 21:47 |
popey | bet it's a manky old heap of junk | 21:47 |
popey | I have asked for specs :) | 21:47 |
Mr-Woof | charge him :) | 21:47 |
Mr-Woof | Does anyone have 11.04 running in a VM using VirtualBox? Does Virtualbox support unity? | 21:50 |
DJones | Mr-Woof: Not sure if this willhelp, but http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/how-to-test-ubuntu-1104-with-unity-in.html | 21:53 |
Mr-Woof | thanks for the link, I'll have a look | 21:53 |
DJones | There may be something more up-to-date on the web, but that was the first link I found, somebody has posted either that one or something similar fairly recently though | 21:54 |
Mr-Woof | It's just installing now in VirtualBox, I'll have a go and report back with results :-) | 21:55 |
shauno | Mr-Woof: I've heard it works if you use the latest vbox, and install guest additions from ubuntu's repo rather than thru the vbox ui | 22:14 |
Mr-Woof | hmm thanks, It's installed and using the command in the link didn't work. It came up with a 3d hardware error. | 22:17 |
Mr-Woof | I'll see what else I can find | 22:17 |
dogmatic69 | anyone by change used awstats with cherokee? | 22:18 |
czajkowski | nn folks | 22:22 |
Mr-Woof | laters | 22:24 |
gord | home :) | 22:26 |
gord | uds was fun! | 22:26 |
ocean22 | hi guys i was trying to install simple-ccsm on ubuntu 11.04 (64 bit) i am getting this error meessage simple-ccsm: | 22:29 |
ocean22 | Depends: python-compizconfig but it is not going to be installed | 22:29 |
ocean22 | Depends: compizconfig-settings-manager but it is not going to be installed | 22:29 |
ocean22 | can any one help | 22:29 |
gord | do you explicitly need simple-ccsm? | 22:30 |
ocean22 | gord, i was trying to install ubuntu control centre. it needs simple cssm to complete its installation | 22:31 |
gord | interesting, not sure what the solution is there | 22:33 |
ocean22 | gord, is there any chance that u can help me with some issue of switchable graphics on ubuntu | 22:35 |
ali1234 | ubuntu kernel git is down :( | 22:58 |
ali1234 | anyone got a mirror? | 22:58 |
ali1234 | maybe there'sone on kernel.org | 22:58 |
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