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HazRPGwooo! Going to see the family in Egypt soon \o/00:00
Azelphurpopey, yea, it's a radiator :p00:03
Azelphura big one :D00:03
Azelphurwith 4x 3000RPM fans strapped to the back of it00:03
AzelphurI can't wait to turn that on, annoy the neighbours :D00:03
kaushalHi00:11
kaushalI have cleared squid cache in squid00:11
kaushalI am still unable to reach the global ubuntu mirror00:12
kaushalis there a way to know where does squid deb proxy resides  ?00:15
kaushalin the LAN00:15
ocean22hi guys can any one help me to install adobe flash player on ubuntu 11.04 please00:23
JGJonesIt should be in Software Centre, open that and search for it, does it show up?00:40
reaper4334yeah, the firefox flash plugin is there as Adobe Flash plug-in00:47
ali1234unity is a lot like the eve UI01:12
hamitron:(01:13
ali1234i wonder if i can get the eve icon on launcher to show my wallet balance when i mouse over it like the one in eve does01:14
hamitronali1234: for bitcoin!01:14
hamitron;)01:14
ali1234my bitcoin wallet has 0.05 bitcoins01:14
ali1234and i got those from the tap01:14
hamitronone day.....01:15
hamitron:)01:15
hamitronor you given up?01:15
ali1234yes01:15
hamitronI'm giving it till the next ubuntu LTS01:15
ali1234generates too much heat and noise01:15
gingone day bitcoin will make us all millionares01:16
hamitronI suspect some tech in computing will arrive that will collapse the value01:16
hamitronbut I expect everything to mess up01:17
ali1234nah that won't happen01:17
hamitron\o/01:17
ali1234there is a fixed number of coins01:17
ali1234but what could happen is new tech -> one guy gets them all01:17
hamitroncommon ali1234..... the world is going end as well ;)01:17
hamitronyeh01:17
hamitronit could certainly wreck it anyway01:18
ali1234at which point the few that are still circulating get really expensive01:18
ali1234but then the one guy will sell all his stock01:18
ali1234then the price will fall over time01:18
ali1234or not01:18
ali1234i mean you never really know01:18
hamitroneither way, it will be unstable01:18
hamitronif you have someone able to click and affect the market like that01:19
ali1234once all the coins are found it does not matter who has how much cpu01:19
ali1234it just makes transactions cheaper01:19
hamitronali1234: won't you get coins for verifying transactions?01:40
ali1234yes01:40
ali1234if people are willing to pay a transaction fee01:40
hamitronI read people will have to later01:40
ali1234if verifying transactions is trivial due to technology updates01:40
ali1234then they won't have to pay01:41
ali1234that's how i understand it anyway01:41
hamitronI guess01:41
ali1234transaction fee just gives you priority01:41
ali1234so the harder to verify, the less can be verified, the more you have to pay for quicker transfer01:41
hamitronI thought you had to pay for larger payments01:41
hamitronbut it is complicated :/01:42
ali1234don't think so01:42
ali1234it's just a bribe basically01:42
hamitronhehe01:42
ali1234"process my transaction first, get some money"01:42
hamitronI like ;)01:42
ali1234if there's no queue to jump there would be no need for fees01:42
hamitronless people will run it I guess01:43
hamitroncould end up with people starting it up, just to pay01:43
ali1234sure, if there's no money in transaction fees and no coins to mine, less people will run it01:44
ali1234supply and demand and all that01:44
hamitronbut as you said, processing will be trival01:44
ali1234not necessarily01:44
ali1234that's just *if* some weird new tech comes along01:44
MichealH<3 AndroIRC so far01:44
MichealHI totally like Android01:45
hamitronnot used it myself01:46
hamitronali1234: the best effect bitcoin has had on me, is it has got me reading about opencl and cuda01:47
hamitron:)01:47
ali1234opencl is nice01:48
hamitronand it just makes me go "ouuuuuuuuuuuuu"01:48
hamitronI haven't done any yet01:48
MichealHThis android phone is a Sony Ericsson Experia X8 , touchscreen keyboard is really slim, struggling to type!01:48
hamitronbut read a bit01:48
hamitronif it works as good as it appears, tempted to get a graphics card for my server01:49
hamitronjust something small01:50
HazRPGlaters all, see ya when I'm on the other side (going to Egypt if ya didn't see the message earlier on)01:55
HazRPG\o01:55
hamitroncya haz01:55
hamitron:)01:55
HazRPGhamitron: toodles :)01:56
* ball ponders06:07
MartijnVdSuh-oh06:08
knightwisemornin peeps !06:52
* ball falls over07:12
knightwisemorning ball07:15
knightwisehow are you07:15
TheAshManHow do I enable a second network card in ubuntu server?08:30
TheAshMan(10.04)08:30
MartijnVdSjust plug it in08:31
MartijnVdS!interfaces08:31
knightwisemorning martijn08:31
knightwiseou helped me with the linux podcasting script remember ?08:31
knightwisewell , i've "mentioned" all of you in the last podcast i did08:31
MartijnVdSTheAshMan: You'll want to look at /etc/network/interfaces (manual available: type 'man interfaces')08:32
knightwiseI did a kind of a 'tribute story' to everybody who helped me. if you have a time to listen to kc 0052 on knightwise.com you might enjoy it08:32
MartijnVdSknightwise: uh-oh :P08:32
TheAshManMartijnVdS, The thing is, theres a network cable plugged into it, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig08:32
MartijnVdSTheAshMan: ifconfig is deprecated (it shuold show up with ifconfig -a)08:33
TheAshManahh ok08:33
MartijnVdSTheAshMan: "ip addr" should show it as well (as long as it has a mac/hardware address)08:33
TheAshManthanks08:33
czajkowskiAloha08:34
MartijnVdS\o czajkowski08:34
DJonesMorning all09:03
danfisha hoy hoy saveloy(s)!09:14
oimonhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13345309 they don't mention that the sub £100 computer runs ubuntu. you pay £30 more for another OS that is compatible with most viruses09:14
danfishoimon: quite true, but I bet they won't have the oomph to run Unity 3D ;)09:16
oimoni don't have the patience to run unity 3d ;)09:16
oimontakes me 10x as long to switch windows09:17
* davmor2 prods czajkowski 09:17
oimonretired people might have the time though :D09:17
danfishoimon: you just need MOAR graphics power - dual SLI cards should do fine09:18
oimonit's not the hardware, it's the design :(09:18
MartijnVdSdanfish: QUAD SLI09:22
MartijnVdS*ahem*09:22
danfishMartijnVdS: showoff ;)09:22
=== dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69
dogmatic69ive got a load balancer (ELB on aws) working, what is the best way to sync the servers under the load balancer09:33
bigcalmFiles or database?09:34
dogmatic69files09:35
dogmatic69db on a separate box with replication to another db box09:35
BigRedSdrbd09:38
bigcalmThen you've got a setup exactly like how we are moving a big client on to. I have no idea about the file sync either :D09:38
dogmatic69hehe09:38
dogmatic69we in the same boat then :P09:38
dogmatic69BigRedS: any chance of a simple how to guide09:39
BigRedSdogmatic69: er, not from me, I've never configured it :)09:42
BigRedSI gather it's reasonably simple, though09:42
bigcalmAh, our client didn't want to pay to join AWS, so they are going with RackSpace and dedicated servers09:42
dogmatic69pay to join aws?09:43
dogmatic69its free to join09:43
bigcalmI dunno then09:43
dogmatic69they charge you £1 to validate your card details09:43
bigcalmFor some reason they didn't want to enter the cloud09:43
* dogmatic69 knows as his card was blocked for fraud 09:43
bigcalmNice09:43
dogmatic69barclays sucks btw09:44
bigcalmI need to decide upon a load balencer for the dual box setup. Round Robin DNS or something else09:44
dogmatic69im using aws ELB which is easy to do, guess its not as flexible as using haproxy or something manual09:45
bigcalmIs ELB specific to AWS, or available for anybody to impliment?09:45
dogmatic69its aws name Elastic Load Balancer09:46
dogmatic69they add Elastic to the front of everything09:46
bigcalmHeh09:46
dogmatic69Elastic IP's09:46
dogmatic69etc09:46
bigcalmThey'll be selling plasters next09:46
dogmatic69EC2 = Elastic cloud compute09:47
dogmatic69hehe09:47
dogmatic69elastic block storage ~= hdd09:47
oimonelastic band = mp3 downloads09:47
dogmatic69elastic band aid could be recovery09:48
MartijnVdSand the firewall would be Elastic Protection?09:48
dogmatic69lol09:49
bigcalmIt's a shame that the RackSpace firewalls can't take a FQDN instead of an IP address for SSH access. Unless I'm mistaken09:58
czajkowskidavmor2: oi oi09:58
davmor2czajkowski: you following whats going on?09:59
davmor2gord: you are like internet cake....09:59
dogmatic69bigcalm: rackspace sucks, good luck trying to create HA across different countries etc09:59
dogmatic69they only allow you to create servers in the country you are registered10:00
czajkowskidavmor2: when I can10:00
dogmatic69want more countries make more accounts10:00
bigcalmHA?10:00
dogmatic69high availability10:00
bigcalmI see10:00
davmor2czajkowski: cool do me a favour listen in on the thunderbird one and let me know what happens :D10:00
dogmatic69or if you want us users to connect to a us based server and uk users to use the uk one etc10:01
czajkowskidavmor2: if the streaming holds up sure10:01
davmor2:D10:01
czajkowskidavmor2: see pm10:01
oimonanyone interested in finding out more about the www.alpha.gov.uk new gov website and the backend technologies, please upvote my question http://getsatisfaction.com/alphagov/topics/what_backend_technologies_does_alphagov_use10:02
gorddavmor2, i am in the lobby area, leaving today, if you don't come find me and say hello then all is lost!10:13
oimonwearing a red carnation?10:15
gordha10:18
davmor2gord: be down in 2 seconds be there10:20
brobostigongood morning everyone.10:37
popeyMorning.10:37
brobostigonmorning popey10:37
bigcalmAFternoon10:40
brobostigonhi bigcalm10:42
hoovermornin all10:50
davmor2morning brobostigon10:51
davmor2Yay! gord exists after all he isn't internet cake10:51
brobostigonmorning davmor210:52
popeyOoo, my GTX 460 arrived10:52
popeyglad it comes with two power connectors. might have to remove a hard disk to make power capacity available10:55
davmor2gord: safe flight home dude10:55
s-foxHello.10:57
dauberso/10:57
s-foxHello daubers10:58
s-foxHow goes?10:58
daubersSlowly as ever10:58
danfishdo you think that if my broadband supplier claims to provide "up to 10 mbps" and actually tops out at 2.3mbps I can pay just 23% of the bill?11:02
dwatkinsdanfish: there's probably a clause in the contract that says 'no'11:02
danfishI think I already know the answer, but it could be a good legal battle to have (if you'd nothing better to do and the money)11:02
danfishdwatkins: :)11:03
daubersdanfish: You'd probably have a good argument to put yourself on a lower package if they did one11:03
dwatkinsI switched packages with BT but the guy on the phone didn't realise that the package I was switching to wasn't similar enough to my existing contract, and it charged me the cancellation fee - I complained and they agreed to take it off again, especially as the router was falling over every 24 hours.11:06
danfishMy connection is OK - it's my parents which is decidedly rubbish. Plusnet - 'good honest broadband from Yorkshire' my arse!11:09
dwatkinsbethere are quite good in Doncaster.11:10
dwatkinsno idea what they're like elsewhere11:10
mfraz74I'm on Orange and I'm getting about 12mbps11:10
* dwatkins fires-up nxclient and tests his bandwidth, knowing full well that the results will be slightly sweked due to nxclient11:11
danfishI've not been able to get freenx running on a 'server' with unity11:12
danfishthough I can see why it won't work, I can't get work arounds to, er, well, work11:13
daubersdanfish: I'm on plusnet and not had any issues :) More or less get the peak of my l11:13
dwatkinsdanfish: how about if you choose another window manager?11:14
daubers"upto"limit11:14
danfishdaubers: it's probably not plusnet at all, but local factors, including my Dad's DIY telephone extension cabling :)11:15
danfishdwatkins: still seems to be reluctant to fire up a connection - moans about permissions. I can use it in 'windowless' mode and fire up an xterm11:16
dwatkinsdanfish: wierd, I didn't have any such problems  - tried creating another user account to test with?11:16
daubersdanfish: Probably :) The routers plusnet give out are quite poor as well IMHO11:16
dwatkinswow, I get 17 Mbps and I'm on ADSL.11:17
TheAshManAnyone help me with bonding 2 NICs? I tried it once and it just killed the connectivity11:20
MartijnVdSTheAshMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding11:22
TheAshManThats the one I followed11:22
MartijnVdSTheAshMan: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinkAggregation ?11:22
MartijnVdSyou probably forgot to move the IP to the virtual (bonded) interface11:23
danfishdwatkins: I am actually using neatx rather than freenx, so maybe that's an issue - which are you using?11:23
TheAshManMartijnVdS, What do you mean? I put the IP in the bond config options11:23
MartijnVdSTheAshMan: I mean read the LinkAggregation page :)11:24
TheAshManThe UbuntuBonding page suggests that I don't need to need to add the bonding to modprobe.d in 10.04+11:25
MartijnVdSI have never used it11:25
TheAshManahh ok11:25
daubersTheAshMan: Some bonding methods require the switch to support them too11:33
oimonnice answer: http://getsatisfaction.com/alphagov/topics/what_backend_technologies_does_alphagov_use " It is all based on open source tools, and we're hoping to release some of our code too." :D11:39
bigcalmPHP coders: is there a prefered Twitter API libary? There seem to be a few http://cuth.eu/7tKWNM Requirement is sending writing updates only12:09
dutchiegood high st shop to buy webcam/microphone?12:12
BigRedSMine came from Tesco12:13
MartijnVdSdutchie: any12:13
bigcalmdutchie: cheap as chips from super markets. Doubt PC World will rip you off that much12:13
dutchiethe one i got from tesco sucks12:14
dutchiedunno if there is a pc world in the interesting bit of oxford12:14
MartijnVdShttp://www.mediamarkt.com/12:15
popeydutchie: are you going to buy a cheap/crap one, or one that works?12:15
dutchiei would prefer one that works12:15
dutchiesince i already have a cheap/crap one12:15
popeylogitech ones are nice12:16
* bigcalm nods12:16
popeyand mostly work on non-evil-os12:16
MartijnVdSMac support usually means UVC means Linux support :)12:16
BigRedSmy logitech one was a tenner from tesco and has worked on everythign I've plugged it into12:16
popeyhttp://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-620&y=64&z=-175&zoom=-112:17
* popey wonders who built that castle12:17
popeyits pretty awesome12:17
MartijnVdSpopey: wow..12:17
bigcalmI just found my Pro 5000 (along with a USB rocket launcher)12:17
bigcalmpopey: that's dedication and cool12:18
bigcalmI wonder who started the space invaders game to the north-west of that castle12:18
MartijnVdSit looks a bit King's Quest I12:18
MartijnVdSbigcalm: or the pirate ship12:19
* bigcalm loads up minecraft to continue with space invaders12:20
bigcalm:D12:20
MooDoohello all12:47
czajkowskiMooDoo: aloha12:51
MooDooczajkowski: hiya :D12:52
MooDooit's either quiet, lunch or everyone is at UDS12:55
MartijnVdSor all 312:57
MooDooaye13:02
=== davmor2_ is now known as davmor2
popeyAzelphur: hows the mining going?13:33
seekerpopey: How on earth does someone get that much stone?13:35
popeyhave you seen rogers hole?13:35
popeyhttp://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-417&y=64&z=138&zoom=-113:36
seekerThe one in the sea near my island?13:36
popeythat goes all the way down to the bottom13:36
popeywhich would give you a lot of cobble13:36
popeyalso, ali1234 mined out the underneath of the pyramid, there's loads there13:36
oimonwhat do you do once you've made these things?13:40
oimonit is purely a construction game or is there a point where you "use" it13:40
JGJonesBuild another project :)13:40
oimoni don't think i "get" it13:40
JGJonesoimon, it's essentially a giant lego game.13:41
oimonat least in the sims, you can "live" in your houses13:41
popeyoimon: do you "get" lego?13:41
oimoni'm not deliberately trollling, i'm just wondering if there's something i missed13:42
popeyit was a serious question13:42
oimonpopey: i get real lego. i wouldn't get virtual lego13:42
popeywhy?13:42
oimoni make airfix models13:42
popeythats not lego13:42
popeyI'm specifically drawing the "it's like lego" comparison13:42
JGJonesoimon, I thought it was pointless when I first heard of it...a game with no story, no...um...plot. No ending etc. Now I can't stop playing the damn game :)13:42
oimonlego is a toy for < 8 yr olds13:43
popeyrubbish13:43
popeyi play with lego with my 4 year old son13:43
popeyand I enjoy it as much as he does13:43
JamesTaitpopey: +113:43
oimonbut you wouldn't play with it if 4yr old wasn't there13:43
* JamesTait does13:43
JGJonesMe too and my son's now 13 and still play with lego :)13:43
popeyyou're taking being a grumpy old fart to olympic levels13:43
oimoni will enjoy playing lego when my son is old enough13:44
popeyi know adults who play with lego, and they have no children13:44
JGJonesAnd I even play with it on my own. the biggest advantage of Minecraft over Lego?13:44
JamesTaitBut I also don't find Minecraft particularly appealing. To each their own.13:44
popeyI also play minecraft with my kids13:44
oimonbut i will enjoy doing something with my son.13:44
popeyall three of us playing together13:44
oimonthat sounds fine to me13:44
JGJonesYou can't in the middle of night step on a tiny lego block lying around and curse aloud.13:44
JamesTaitI did love SimCity though, even though I didn't think I would.13:44
popeyyeah, I loved the original simcity too13:44
popeynote that minecraft isnt finished yet13:45
oimonsimcity has a purpose, even if it is to make a massive city and loads of cash13:45
popeythey _are_ adding 'game' elements to it13:45
popeyminecraft will too oimon13:45
oimonok..that was my question13:45
popeyit just doesn't yet13:45
JamesTaitSo if I did actually start playing Minecraft, I may well become hopelessly addicted.13:45
popeythey added achievements in the most recent update13:45
popeyJamesTait: this is likely :)13:45
oimonbelieve me when i'm not trolling, i just wanted to know if there's a point13:45
JamesTaitWhich is another reason for me not to play it, because I don't have time for another vice.13:45
popeyoimon: there is a point, it's fun13:45
popeyhaving fun _is_ a point13:45
JGJonesaye...in popey's server - a railway system is getting build - so it's like building a city now although with strange buildings :)13:46
popeyheh13:46
oimonnot having played it, i thuoght the fun would wear off a bit..but i really know very little about the game besides watching some youtune and looking at your map13:46
popeyglad we dont have a council dictating the planning rules :)13:46
oimoncan you ride on the railway13:46
popeythe fun can wear off, as with anythin13:46
popeyyes13:46
JGJonesthat's true...no planning permission required to blow up a mountain13:46
oimonany youtube clips ;)13:46
popeyI'm currently building a long extension to the railway13:46
JGJonesoh some people even use the rails system to make a giant rollercoaster...hmm...that's a project to do next...13:47
popeyhttp://popey.com/minecraft/gmap/?x=-475&y=64&z=1585&zoom=-413:47
popey^^^ my new leg of rail13:47
JGJonesI saw that...was wondering who was building that and how they managed to find all that iron to do it :)13:48
popeyahem13:49
JamesTaitBetter start shutting my laptop down, I have a session to attend right round the other side of the hotel shortly.13:49
popeyo/13:49
JamesTaitI really wish suspend and resume worked on my machine.13:50
JamesTaitI really wish I had more time to start figuring out why it doesn't.13:50
* JamesTait waves13:50
JamesTaitttfn13:50
dwatkinsciao13:51
dwatkinsI need to allocate enough swap to be able to do that13:51
* popey wonders what machine he has13:51
BigRedSnetwork mangler's put me of wanting suspend to work13:55
BigRedSthough everything bar nm seems to cope with resuming quite happily13:55
bigcalmAny PHP devs in here done any work with the Twitter API?14:04
BigRedSmy brother has, and I think he's on jabber, so I can forward simple questions at him?14:05
MattJJabber \o/14:05
bigcalmWhat's his choice of library? As there are several on offer14:05
BigRedShah, jabber's become a synonym for 'IM' as far as I'm concerned now :)14:05
MattJ:)14:05
BigRedSbigcalm: I've asked him, but he went 'away' between my checking and you asking, so I might have to get back to you when he's back14:06
bigcalmBigRedS: thanks :)14:06
BigRedSno probs,14:07
BigRedSthough I've not got you an answer yet :)14:07
bigcalmBut thank you for taking the time to ask :)14:08
dwatkinshas anyone here used netcat to test the stability of an inter-office network connection? I think there are occasional disconnects, and would like to gather information, netcat seems like it might do what I need.14:23
MattJdwatkins: are you sure it's what you want?14:42
MattJIf you want to monitor a connection, something like Wireshark would probably be better14:42
dwatkinsMattJ: not entirely, I've asked them to just run a ping for 10 minutes14:44
MattJTry mtr instead, it will show you at which hop the pings get dropped14:45
MattJand it can run continuously14:45
dwatkinsthanks MattJ14:46
jpdsdwatkins: Sounds like someone is hijacking their IP address.14:47
* popey files bug 78115414:47
lubotu3Launchpad bug 781154 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu) "Wishlist: Figlet export ASCIIfied BFD to /usr/share/figlet*.flc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78115414:47
dwatkinsjpds: aha, good call, I'll make certain they check that - thanks :)14:49
* AlanBell observes that popey has finally lost it14:57
bigcalmAlanBell: I agree. Completely loopy :)14:59
bigcalmBecause of the lack of <pre>, the double spaces in the M are reduced to single which breaks the rest of the word14:59
bigcalmTut tut14:59
bigcalmThe program 'figlet' can be found in the following packages:15:01
bigcalm * toilet15:01
bigcalm * figlet15:01
bigcalmUnexpected15:01
Psychobudgiefiglets often have that effect on me15:04
bigcalmHEh15:04
bigcalmPyrus (PHP PEAR) - yay or nay?15:35
Psychobudgiehay15:35
bigcalmHumm, requires PHP 5.3+15:36
BigRedS5.3 is what all the cool kids are using these days, apparently15:39
bigcalm5.3 breaks CakePHP 1.115:42
bigcalmOne of our client's project is in CakePHP 1.1 and with no budget or desire to upgrade the framework15:43
bigcalmWhich is a pain as a dev15:43
bigcalmAnother client's project uses an old version of moregroupware that only runs on PHP 415:44
* bigcalm shudders15:44
dogmatic69could anyone let me know if this is in the right direction for a server setup http://oi55.tinypic.com/316x92b.jpg15:45
bigcalmIf the main database server goes down, what access is there to aws?15:46
bigcalmOh, I see15:46
bigcalm:)15:47
bigcalmDid you work out file sync?15:47
dogmatic69bigcalm: not done file sync yet, only have 1 loadbalancer to 1 server + master db15:50
dogmatic69i just dont know what if the load balancer goes FFFFUUUUUUUU15:50
dogmatic696x servers sitting round doing nothing15:50
bigcalmWith round robin dns it would continue to work15:52
dogmatic69this is aws elastic load balancer15:53
bigcalmDo they say what would happen in that case then?15:55
bigcalmThere hasn't been any package updates for 10.04.2 for a few days. I wonder what's wrong15:58
popeydo you not have postfix or exim installed?15:58
popeyyou should get an update for the security issues on those15:59
bigcalmapticron is installed on all of my servers. It's been quiet for a while15:59
bigcalmThere we go16:00
bigcalmDid a manual update and postfix wanted updating16:01
bigcalmGuess it's just been quiet for a bit16:01
oimon!ingo apticron16:01
oimon!info apticron16:01
lubotu3apticron (source: apticron): Simple tool to mail about pending package updates. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.45 (natty), package size 12 kB, installed size 112 kB16:01
oimonhave updates on my desktop though16:02
oimonchromium seems to update every day16:02
oimonguys, seen this? http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/government-save-millions-ict read stuff on el reg about it but the details look promising16:05
popeyanyone good with ATI cards in Ubuntu?16:06
oimonhttp://tumbleweed.popey.com/16:23
oimon:D16:23
popeyindeed16:34
czajkowskihmmm16:40
czajkowskiwho knew job centre folks would make you fill out a ton of paper work16:40
czajkowskifecking hell 2 days in a row16:41
popeyGet a job you bum!16:41
popey:)16:41
czajkowskiDo_Not_Go_There16:41
kazadepopey, I know some ATI stuff..16:42
popeykazade: seems the issue was resolved with a reboot :)16:42
popeythanks though16:42
kazadeah k16:42
kazadesorry, I forgot about IRC for a few hours there ;)16:42
popey:)16:43
oimonczajkowski: has something bad happened? i thought you worked at sirius?16:45
czajkowskioimon: I did, nothing bad just contract finished.16:45
oimonah ok16:45
oimonwhat you looking for?16:46
czajkowskinot sure back to more techincal work or more open source if I can get it, or plan D anything16:46
popeyPlan F: Wait on tables16:46
DJonesDoesn't gord need a biscuit & coffee gofer - That could be a full time job16:48
czajkowskiDJones: gord has cats16:48
czajkowskithis is a no go16:48
Azelphurthere, my water cooled monster is up and running properly :D16:48
popeyAzelphur: hows the mining?16:49
Azelphurpopey:  havn't started yet, I'm going to start overclocking tonight16:49
popeyhaha16:49
popeyBTC up to nearly $6USD each today :)16:49
Azelphuris that what you have?16:50
popeyis what?16:50
Azelphur6 USD/day16:50
popeyI was just quoting the exchange rate16:50
popeyno, thats how much they're selling for16:50
Azelphurwtf, it was $3 like a week ago16:50
popey$5.80 or so16:50
popeyyeah16:50
Azelphurjeez16:50
popeyindeed16:50
popeyand getting ever harder to mine as the days go by :)16:50
Azelphurhehe, not so much for me16:51
AzelphurI can do 150mhash/sec without overclocking16:51
oimoni shouldn't do major software upgrades so late in the day :(16:51
popeyit gets harder for everyone16:52
oimonpopey: i have acess to a HPC cluster..can i make a small fortune in producing bitcons?16:52
popeyif they have GPUs, probably yes16:52
popeyif you can sell them :)16:53
oimonfew hundred nodes...usually they are looking for planets but hey16:53
popeyheh16:53
oimonthey are looking for a linux cluster admin if anyone is interested16:53
oimoni think it's been mentioned on linuxjobs16:54
Azelphurpopey: my bitcoin doesn't seem to want to connect, haha16:54
popeyfailure16:55
Azelphuroh there we go, 1 connection16:56
Azelphur0 connections :(16:56
popeyheh16:56
Azelphurpopey: 40C idle, 55.5C running stress --cpu 816:58
Azelphurso 55.5C is my absolute max temp that'll ever happen :D16:58
Azelphuroh wait, 55.5 but I don't have the fans at all cranked up. Lets crank the fans up :D17:00
bigcalmOnly just read about bitcoin. Guess it's not big news yet17:06
popeyits been mentioned on cnn17:06
bigcalmI don't watch cnn17:06
popeyneither do i17:06
popeyi was merely indicating it's maintsreamness17:06
bigcalmI see17:06
popeythe more people who get involved the harder it is to generate coins apparently17:07
bigcalmSeems little point to it if it doesn't actually work17:07
popeydefine work17:08
* popey pokes dutchie 17:09
dutchiewhat17:09
bigcalmI don't see myself paying my rent with it :)17:09
dutchiewhy am i being poked?17:09
* Azelphur pokes dutchie17:09
dutchiethis is worse than facebook17:10
popeylook up dutchie17:10
popeysame convo in two channels17:10
dutchieyes17:10
dutchiebtc is annoying17:10
bigcalmHeh17:10
dutchieevery day i think "oh far too expensive to buy any now, should have done it months ago"17:10
dutchiethen the next day they have gained another 50% of value17:11
dutchiei suspect i would not do particularly well in the world of stocks and shares17:11
danfishdutchie: you're doing a maths degree aren't you? the analytical arms of broking houses love that sort of degree17:19
bigcalmOh I do like "Send to phone" in chrome :)17:19
bigcalmUntil I get a tablet, reading documentation will be done on my phone17:20
bigcalm(I need to rest my back but do research at the same time)17:20
ubuntuuk-planet[Jonathan Riddell] Ubuntu Developer Summit in Budapest - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/442917:24
popeyAzelphur: you doing pooled mining?17:24
popeyAzelphur: and what cards did you go for in the end?17:25
Azelphurpopey: I might do.17:25
Azelphurpopey: I havn't build a bitcoin miner, this is just my personal PC xD17:25
popeysure17:25
Azelphuralthough using my idle time for bitcoin sounds like fun.17:25
AzelphurI have a GTX 570 and a 8800GT17:25
dutchiedanfish: i have no desire whatsoever to go into finance of any type17:26
popeyhttp://www.ebuyer.com/product/262643 holy cow17:26
danfishdutchie: good on you :)17:27
popeypeople seriously buy video cards that are 600+notes?17:27
DJonesWhats the betting you need the nvidia driver for it17:27
PsychobudgieI used to comically buy them17:27
popeywonder if unity will work better with this GTX460 than my old 7900GT :)17:28
Psychobudgiewell it works absolutely fine with my 8600gt17:29
Psychobudgiewhen I say it works absolutely fine, I mean from a graphical performance perspective of course17:29
popeyit's certainly better once you get rid of the stupid delays in alt-tab17:30
popeywhy on earth you'd want to deliberately slow down the act of switching from one app to another, I can't quite fathom17:30
Psychobudgiefor the same reason many other decisions where made in unity17:31
Psychobudgiedrugs. stay away from them or if they didn't take drugs, take more of them17:32
popeyi suspect its a compiz default17:32
popeynot a concious decision17:32
Psychobudgieafter much tinkering, playing and tampering I've gone back to gnome 2 and docky17:32
Psychobudgieit's superior in every wat17:33
Psychobudgieway even17:33
reaper4334same, gnome 2 is just much more customisable17:35
Psychobudgiegnome 3 was ok but still has many issues that they need to sort out17:35
popeyyou change your tune :)17:36
popey< Psychobudgie> in that case put gnome 3 on all the new machines, they'll love you for it17:37
Psychobudgiepopey, that was in response to him commenting that his staff don't like anything new17:37
popeyI know :)17:37
popeyI was pulling you leg.17:37
Psychobudgieheh17:38
Psychobudgiegnome 3 though is still a million miles better than unity17:38
reaper4334I don't know, I'm not sure about the window management and the way that the workspaces now work17:39
Psychobudgieworkspaces work surprisingly well17:39
Psychobudgiewindow management while not perfect is way better than unity17:39
Psychobudgiecan atleast find the window I need quickly in gnome 317:39
reaper4334gnome 3's workspace management ran realllly slowly with in onboard graphics 'cause of the "slide" on sort of effect changing workspaces17:40
reaper4334so I kinda gave up with it17:40
reaper4334that, and I couldn't figure out how to move the close button to the left17:40
Psychobudgiereaper4334, did you try using fallback mode17:40
reaper4334What's fallback mode? I can't say I looked into it for long17:41
Psychobudgieit's for onboard chipsets, etc17:41
Psychobudgieless graphic effects17:41
reaper4334ah, I didn't know about that. Whereabouts would I find it? I might have to give it another try with that17:41
Psychobudgiedon't know, never had to use it. It's mentioned on the gnome 3 site though17:42
reaper4334fair enough, I'll have a look into that and give it another try then17:42
reaper4334Does anyone know how to make xchat automatically identify with nickserv?18:04
kkitanoyou need to ctrl-s18:08
kkitanoand go to edit18:08
kkitanoand u put your nickserv password there18:09
kkitanou also might want to add "set irc_join_delay 5" in connect command18:09
kkitanoto stop it trying to join your channels before indentifying18:10
reaper4334ctrl-s saves discussion transcript?18:10
kkitanogo to xchat->network list18:10
reaper4334thanks, I tried that.. I'll reconnect and see if it works18:13
reaper4334yeah I think that worked, thanks18:16
kkitanocool :)18:16
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Azelphurpopey: grr, it takes me like 2 hours to get a bitcoin connection18:50
Azelphurwonder what's up with it :s18:50
Azelphurstill, mining now :D, currently pulling 130k mhash18:52
kkitanowhat is bitcoin mining?18:59
MartijnVdSbitcoins19:00
DJoneskkitano: From the descriptions, bitcoins seem to be internet money backed by fresh air19:26
Azelphurdamn, conky is annoying me.19:27
AzelphurIt keeps crashing with "Conky: you don't need that many fonts, sorry."19:27
Azelphurwhat a stupid, annoying error.19:27
MartijnVdSAzelphur: well, you don't need that many fonts! :)19:28
Azelphur\o/19:28
Azelphurexcept that I do, I have a rather intricate setup I worked on for quite a while :/19:28
MartijnVdSAzelphur: 13 years ago: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=1998101719:29
Azelphurexactly :p19:30
Azelphurhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/Janurary%202011/2011-01-13-041505_3840x1200_scrot.png my conky setup wins :(19:30
Azelphurit also needs lots of fonts.19:30
MartijnVdSLots of fonts is usually a sign of doing it wrong :)19:32
Azelphuror the sign of using weather and icon fonts.19:33
AzelphurMartijnVdS: I think it's actually complaining more because I use the same set of fonts often, rather than different fonts too19:34
Azelphuromg, it just crashes randomly with that error, so annoying :/19:38
Azelphurit runs for a while then dies :(19:39
AzelphurI guess I'll try taking an icon font out and using images to replace it... *sigh*19:40
Azelphurif it really comes to it I guess I'll have to do something totally retarded like embedding the static text that conky renders onto my wallpaper.19:43
Azelphuryep still errors, embedding text into the wallpaper ftw.19:45
matthew_evening all - I'm getting a "504 gateway time-out" on the Ubuntu One Music store (via RhythmBox) for the last couple of evenings - is it actually down?19:46
popeyAzelphur: I do love your conky setup19:52
popeymatthew_: no idea, I'd ask in #ubuntuone19:52
alloobaHi19:55
alloobaI have aproblem in connecting with en019:56
alloobacan someone help plz19:56
alloobahello19:56
alloobaany one here19:56
JGJonesAzelphur, that's an awesome conky setup there :)19:58
alloobaI need help19:58
alloobaI am facing aproblem with connection19:59
reaper4334I've never tried conky, does it go well with unity?20:05
ali1234http://alpha.gov.uk/          ........ oh dear20:12
tugrikoh dear?20:12
ali1234yes, oh dear20:13
ali1234they let web designers make it20:13
ali1234which means it's impossible to find anything20:13
ali1234but it sure does *look* nice20:13
ali1234it will look horribly dated in about 6 months of course20:14
reaper4334and ironically the first thing it says is "Alpha.gov.uk is an experimental prototype of a single UK Government website. It aims to be as simple as possible..."20:14
ali1234yes20:15
ali1234that's why everything is in 16pt font20:15
ali1234incase you have bad eyesight and you don't know how to zoom in20:15
reaper4334yeahh20:15
ali1234of course since everything is in 16pt, there's hardly any room for more than about 10 words on each page20:15
ali1234but that's ok, because too many words just confuses people20:15
MartijnVdSHaha: "that 6 megabyte video becomes 8 MB for transit because it has to be encoded as 80 column lines that are safe for punch cards" http://blog.mimecast.com/2011/02/why-is-email-so-complicated-part-221-the-legacy-of-punch-cards/20:19
GreenDanceHi, I've done a minimal Ubuntu install, but I have no sound, could someone tell me what I need to do to get sound, Thank You20:31
reaper4334What sound card do you use?20:32
GreenDanceI'm not sure, I'm using a laptop20:33
reaper4334What laptop is it?20:33
GreenDanceacer20:33
reaper4334Not sure. Have you tried checking to see if any additional drivers need to be installed?20:33
reaper4334System Settings -> Additional Drivers20:33
MartijnVdSfor a sound card?20:34
GreenDancepardon?20:35
GreenDanceis there a command line command I can do?20:36
MartijnVdSGreenDance: try alsamixer first -- see if the channels aren't muted20:37
ocean22hi guys I recently installed ubuntu 11.04 on my hp pavilion laptop dv6-3150 sa. i am using gnome interface and my compiz is not wokring, can any one help20:41
ocean22pls20:41
ocean22i have got switchable graphics inside20:42
ocean22ati+intel20:42
MartijnVdSocean22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics20:43
ocean22MartijnVdS, thanks, i had a look at that, i think switcheroo is already installed, where can i find it to switch20:44
popeyreaper4334: cat /proc/asound/cards20:45
popeyreaper4334: anything listed there?20:45
reaper4334popey, did you mean to ask that to GreenDance?20:52
daubersLightning is rubbish20:55
daubersI can't seem to find a way to customise the printed calender very much20:55
popeyoops20:59
* daubers considers altering the JS to pull a stylesheet from somewhere else20:59
ubuntuuk-planet[Ubuntu UK Podcast] S04E06  Look for the Truth - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/05/11/s04e06-look-for-the-truth/21:25
ubuntuuk-planet[Alistair McKinlay] Video of the Week: Chromebooks - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/05/video-of-the-week-chromebooks/21:25
czajkowskipopey: fix your url link21:31
czajkowskiextra S21:31
DJonesHeh www.pocket-lint.com seems to be having problems, nice error message being displayed http://www.pocket-lint.com/images/im-in-ur-serverz.gif21:35
DJonesAnd seems to be fixed very quickly21:35
popeyczajkowski: can you be slightly more specific?21:38
czajkowskiS04E06 S Look for the Truth21:38
czajkowskithe S21:38
czajkowskiis there a reason for it or am I being thick in reading it ?21:39
popeynot a problem I can fix21:39
popeyits the bot, not the site21:39
popeypossibly a unicode issue21:39
czajkowskiah okie dokie21:40
czajkowskibut not me being thick21:40
czajkowskiwhich ya know is also possible21:40
popey:)21:40
Mr-Wooflo all21:41
popeyhello21:41
czajkowskihttp://chrome.angrybirds.com/ <<---21:43
ali1234you could use - instead of –21:43
popeydunno where the – comes from21:44
popeyi think wordpress is doing it21:44
mgdmpopey: it does21:46
popeyah21:46
popeysilly wordpress21:46
mgdmit also has a function that capitalizes any mention of the word 'Wordpress' properly21:46
mgdmon every request, content or template21:47
popeyoh dear21:47
ali1234lol21:47
czajkowskimgdm: I wish Ubuntu did on its system21:47
popeyI had a tweet from a friend today21:47
popey"If I ask nicely will you install Ubuntu on my Dads PC?"21:47
czajkowskiawwwww21:47
popeybet it's a manky old heap of junk21:47
popeyI have asked for specs :)21:47
Mr-Woofcharge him :)21:47
Mr-WoofDoes anyone have 11.04 running in a VM using VirtualBox? Does Virtualbox support unity?21:50
DJonesMr-Woof: Not sure if this willhelp, but http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/how-to-test-ubuntu-1104-with-unity-in.html21:53
Mr-Woofthanks for the link, I'll have a look21:53
DJonesThere may be something more up-to-date on the web, but that was the first link I found, somebody has posted either that one or something similar fairly recently though21:54
Mr-WoofIt's just installing now in VirtualBox, I'll have a go and report back with results :-)21:55
shaunoMr-Woof: I've heard it works if you use the latest vbox, and install guest additions from ubuntu's repo rather than thru the vbox ui22:14
Mr-Woofhmm thanks, It's installed and using the command in the link didn't work. It came up with a 3d hardware error.22:17
Mr-WoofI'll see what else I can find22:17
dogmatic69anyone by change used awstats with cherokee?22:18
czajkowskinn folks22:22
Mr-Wooflaters22:24
gordhome :)22:26
gorduds was fun!22:26
ocean22hi guys i was trying to install simple-ccsm on ubuntu 11.04 (64 bit) i am getting this error meessage simple-ccsm:22:29
ocean22 Depends: python-compizconfig but it is not going to be installed22:29
ocean22 Depends: compizconfig-settings-manager but it is not going to be installed22:29
ocean22can any one help22:29
gorddo you explicitly need simple-ccsm?22:30
ocean22gord, i was trying to install ubuntu control centre. it needs simple cssm to complete its installation22:31
gordinteresting, not sure what the solution is there22:33
ocean22gord, is there any chance that u can help me with some issue of switchable graphics on ubuntu22:35
ali1234ubuntu kernel git is down :(22:58
ali1234anyone got a mirror?22:58
ali1234maybe there'sone on kernel.org22:58

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