[00:00] wooo! Going to see the family in Egypt soon \o/ [00:03] popey, yea, it's a radiator :p [00:03] a big one :D [00:03] with 4x 3000RPM fans strapped to the back of it [00:03] I can't wait to turn that on, annoy the neighbours :D [00:11] Hi [00:11] I have cleared squid cache in squid [00:12] I am still unable to reach the global ubuntu mirror [00:15] is there a way to know where does squid deb proxy resides ? [00:15] in the LAN [00:23] hi guys can any one help me to install adobe flash player on ubuntu 11.04 please [00:40] It should be in Software Centre, open that and search for it, does it show up? [00:47] yeah, the firefox flash plugin is there as Adobe Flash plug-in [01:12] unity is a lot like the eve UI [01:13] :( [01:14] i wonder if i can get the eve icon on launcher to show my wallet balance when i mouse over it like the one in eve does [01:14] ali1234: for bitcoin! [01:14] ;) [01:14] my bitcoin wallet has 0.05 bitcoins [01:14] and i got those from the tap [01:15] one day..... [01:15] :) [01:15] or you given up? [01:15] yes [01:15] I'm giving it till the next ubuntu LTS [01:15] generates too much heat and noise [01:16] one day bitcoin will make us all millionares [01:16] I suspect some tech in computing will arrive that will collapse the value [01:17] but I expect everything to mess up [01:17] nah that won't happen [01:17] \o/ [01:17] there is a fixed number of coins [01:17] but what could happen is new tech -> one guy gets them all [01:17] common ali1234..... the world is going end as well ;) [01:17] yeh [01:18] it could certainly wreck it anyway [01:18] at which point the few that are still circulating get really expensive [01:18] but then the one guy will sell all his stock [01:18] then the price will fall over time [01:18] or not [01:18] i mean you never really know [01:18] either way, it will be unstable [01:19] if you have someone able to click and affect the market like that [01:19] once all the coins are found it does not matter who has how much cpu [01:19] it just makes transactions cheaper [01:40] ali1234: won't you get coins for verifying transactions? [01:40] yes [01:40] if people are willing to pay a transaction fee [01:40] I read people will have to later [01:40] if verifying transactions is trivial due to technology updates [01:41] then they won't have to pay [01:41] that's how i understand it anyway [01:41] I guess [01:41] transaction fee just gives you priority [01:41] so the harder to verify, the less can be verified, the more you have to pay for quicker transfer [01:41] I thought you had to pay for larger payments [01:42] but it is complicated :/ [01:42] don't think so [01:42] it's just a bribe basically [01:42] hehe [01:42] "process my transaction first, get some money" [01:42] I like ;) [01:42] if there's no queue to jump there would be no need for fees [01:43] less people will run it I guess [01:43] could end up with people starting it up, just to pay [01:44] sure, if there's no money in transaction fees and no coins to mine, less people will run it [01:44] supply and demand and all that [01:44] but as you said, processing will be trival [01:44] not necessarily [01:44] that's just *if* some weird new tech comes along [01:44] <3 AndroIRC so far [01:45] I totally like Android [01:46] not used it myself [01:47] ali1234: the best effect bitcoin has had on me, is it has got me reading about opencl and cuda [01:47] :) [01:48] opencl is nice [01:48] and it just makes me go "ouuuuuuuuuuuuu" [01:48] I haven't done any yet [01:48] This android phone is a Sony Ericsson Experia X8 , touchscreen keyboard is really slim, struggling to type! [01:48] but read a bit [01:49] if it works as good as it appears, tempted to get a graphics card for my server [01:50] just something small [01:55] laters all, see ya when I'm on the other side (going to Egypt if ya didn't see the message earlier on) [01:55] \o [01:55] cya haz [01:55] :) [01:56] hamitron: toodles :) [06:07] * ball ponders [06:08] uh-oh [06:52] mornin peeps ! [07:12] * ball falls over [07:15] morning ball [07:15] how are you [08:30] How do I enable a second network card in ubuntu server? [08:30] (10.04) [08:31] just plug it in [08:31] !interfaces [08:31] morning martijn [08:31] ou helped me with the linux podcasting script remember ? [08:31] well , i've "mentioned" all of you in the last podcast i did [08:32] TheAshMan: You'll want to look at /etc/network/interfaces (manual available: type 'man interfaces') [08:32] I did a kind of a 'tribute story' to everybody who helped me. if you have a time to listen to kc 0052 on knightwise.com you might enjoy it [08:32] knightwise: uh-oh :P [08:32] MartijnVdS, The thing is, theres a network cable plugged into it, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig [08:33] TheAshMan: ifconfig is deprecated (it shuold show up with ifconfig -a) [08:33] ahh ok [08:33] TheAshMan: "ip addr" should show it as well (as long as it has a mac/hardware address) [08:33] thanks [08:34] Aloha [08:34] \o czajkowski [09:03] Morning all [09:14] a hoy hoy saveloy(s)! [09:14] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13345309 they don't mention that the sub £100 computer runs ubuntu. you pay £30 more for another OS that is compatible with most viruses [09:16] oimon: quite true, but I bet they won't have the oomph to run Unity 3D ;) [09:16] i don't have the patience to run unity 3d ;) [09:17] takes me 10x as long to switch windows [09:17] * davmor2 prods czajkowski [09:17] retired people might have the time though :D [09:18] oimon: you just need MOAR graphics power - dual SLI cards should do fine [09:18] it's not the hardware, it's the design :( [09:22] danfish: QUAD SLI [09:22] *ahem* [09:22] MartijnVdS: showoff ;) === dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 [09:33] ive got a load balancer (ELB on aws) working, what is the best way to sync the servers under the load balancer [09:34] Files or database? [09:35] files [09:35] db on a separate box with replication to another db box [09:38] drbd [09:38] Then you've got a setup exactly like how we are moving a big client on to. I have no idea about the file sync either :D [09:38] hehe [09:38] we in the same boat then :P [09:39] BigRedS: any chance of a simple how to guide [09:42] dogmatic69: er, not from me, I've never configured it :) [09:42] I gather it's reasonably simple, though [09:42] Ah, our client didn't want to pay to join AWS, so they are going with RackSpace and dedicated servers [09:43] pay to join aws? [09:43] its free to join [09:43] I dunno then [09:43] they charge you £1 to validate your card details [09:43] For some reason they didn't want to enter the cloud [09:43] * dogmatic69 knows as his card was blocked for fraud [09:43] Nice [09:44] barclays sucks btw [09:44] I need to decide upon a load balencer for the dual box setup. Round Robin DNS or something else [09:45] im using aws ELB which is easy to do, guess its not as flexible as using haproxy or something manual [09:45] Is ELB specific to AWS, or available for anybody to impliment? [09:46] its aws name Elastic Load Balancer [09:46] they add Elastic to the front of everything [09:46] Heh [09:46] Elastic IP's [09:46] etc [09:46] They'll be selling plasters next [09:47] EC2 = Elastic cloud compute [09:47] hehe [09:47] elastic block storage ~= hdd [09:47] elastic band = mp3 downloads [09:48] elastic band aid could be recovery [09:48] and the firewall would be Elastic Protection? [09:49] lol [09:58] It's a shame that the RackSpace firewalls can't take a FQDN instead of an IP address for SSH access. Unless I'm mistaken [09:58] davmor2: oi oi [09:59] czajkowski: you following whats going on? [09:59] gord: you are like internet cake.... [09:59] bigcalm: rackspace sucks, good luck trying to create HA across different countries etc [10:00] they only allow you to create servers in the country you are registered [10:00] davmor2: when I can [10:00] want more countries make more accounts [10:00] HA? [10:00] high availability [10:00] I see [10:00] czajkowski: cool do me a favour listen in on the thunderbird one and let me know what happens :D [10:01] or if you want us users to connect to a us based server and uk users to use the uk one etc [10:01] davmor2: if the streaming holds up sure [10:01] :D [10:01] davmor2: see pm [10:02] anyone interested in finding out more about the www.alpha.gov.uk new gov website and the backend technologies, please upvote my question http://getsatisfaction.com/alphagov/topics/what_backend_technologies_does_alphagov_use [10:13] davmor2, i am in the lobby area, leaving today, if you don't come find me and say hello then all is lost! [10:15] wearing a red carnation? [10:18] ha [10:20] gord: be down in 2 seconds be there [10:37] good morning everyone. [10:37] Morning. [10:37] morning popey [10:40] AFternoon [10:42] hi bigcalm [10:50] mornin all [10:51] morning brobostigon [10:51] Yay! gord exists after all he isn't internet cake [10:52] morning davmor2 [10:52] Ooo, my GTX 460 arrived [10:55] glad it comes with two power connectors. might have to remove a hard disk to make power capacity available [10:55] gord: safe flight home dude [10:57] Hello. [10:57] o/ [10:58] Hello daubers [10:58] How goes? [10:58] Slowly as ever [11:02] do you think that if my broadband supplier claims to provide "up to 10 mbps" and actually tops out at 2.3mbps I can pay just 23% of the bill? [11:02] danfish: there's probably a clause in the contract that says 'no' [11:02] I think I already know the answer, but it could be a good legal battle to have (if you'd nothing better to do and the money) [11:03] dwatkins: :) [11:03] danfish: You'd probably have a good argument to put yourself on a lower package if they did one [11:06] I switched packages with BT but the guy on the phone didn't realise that the package I was switching to wasn't similar enough to my existing contract, and it charged me the cancellation fee - I complained and they agreed to take it off again, especially as the router was falling over every 24 hours. [11:09] My connection is OK - it's my parents which is decidedly rubbish. Plusnet - 'good honest broadband from Yorkshire' my arse! [11:10] bethere are quite good in Doncaster. [11:10] no idea what they're like elsewhere [11:10] I'm on Orange and I'm getting about 12mbps [11:11] * dwatkins fires-up nxclient and tests his bandwidth, knowing full well that the results will be slightly sweked due to nxclient [11:12] I've not been able to get freenx running on a 'server' with unity [11:13] though I can see why it won't work, I can't get work arounds to, er, well, work [11:13] danfish: I'm on plusnet and not had any issues :) More or less get the peak of my l [11:14] danfish: how about if you choose another window manager? [11:14] "upto"limit [11:15] daubers: it's probably not plusnet at all, but local factors, including my Dad's DIY telephone extension cabling :) [11:16] dwatkins: still seems to be reluctant to fire up a connection - moans about permissions. I can use it in 'windowless' mode and fire up an xterm [11:16] danfish: wierd, I didn't have any such problems - tried creating another user account to test with? [11:16] danfish: Probably :) The routers plusnet give out are quite poor as well IMHO [11:17] wow, I get 17 Mbps and I'm on ADSL. [11:20] Anyone help me with bonding 2 NICs? I tried it once and it just killed the connectivity [11:22] TheAshMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding [11:22] Thats the one I followed [11:22] TheAshMan: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinkAggregation ? [11:23] you probably forgot to move the IP to the virtual (bonded) interface [11:23] dwatkins: I am actually using neatx rather than freenx, so maybe that's an issue - which are you using? [11:23] MartijnVdS, What do you mean? I put the IP in the bond config options [11:24] TheAshMan: I mean read the LinkAggregation page :) [11:25] The UbuntuBonding page suggests that I don't need to need to add the bonding to modprobe.d in 10.04+ [11:25] I have never used it [11:25] ahh ok [11:33] TheAshMan: Some bonding methods require the switch to support them too [11:39] nice answer: http://getsatisfaction.com/alphagov/topics/what_backend_technologies_does_alphagov_use " It is all based on open source tools, and we're hoping to release some of our code too." :D [12:09] PHP coders: is there a prefered Twitter API libary? There seem to be a few http://cuth.eu/7tKWNM Requirement is sending writing updates only [12:12] good high st shop to buy webcam/microphone? [12:13] Mine came from Tesco [12:13] dutchie: any [12:13] dutchie: cheap as chips from super markets. Doubt PC World will rip you off that much [12:14] the one i got from tesco sucks [12:14] dunno if there is a pc world in the interesting bit of oxford [12:15] ♥ http://www.mediamarkt.com/ [12:15] dutchie: are you going to buy a cheap/crap one, or one that works? [12:15] i would prefer one that works [12:15] since i already have a cheap/crap one [12:16] logitech ones are nice [12:16] * bigcalm nods [12:16] and mostly work on non-evil-os [12:16] Mac support usually means UVC means Linux support :) [12:16] my logitech one was a tenner from tesco and has worked on everythign I've plugged it into [12:17] http://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-620&y=64&z=-175&zoom=-1 [12:17] * popey wonders who built that castle [12:17] its pretty awesome [12:17] popey: wow.. [12:17] I just found my Pro 5000 (along with a USB rocket launcher) [12:18] popey: that's dedication and cool [12:18] I wonder who started the space invaders game to the north-west of that castle [12:18] it looks a bit King's Quest I [12:19] bigcalm: or the pirate ship [12:20] * bigcalm loads up minecraft to continue with space invaders [12:20] :D [12:47] hello all [12:51] MooDoo: aloha [12:52] czajkowski: hiya :D [12:55] it's either quiet, lunch or everyone is at UDS [12:57] or all 3 [13:02] aye === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [13:33] Azelphur: hows the mining going? [13:35] popey: How on earth does someone get that much stone? [13:35] have you seen rogers hole? [13:36] http://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-417&y=64&z=138&zoom=-1 [13:36] The one in the sea near my island? [13:36] that goes all the way down to the bottom [13:36] which would give you a lot of cobble [13:36] also, ali1234 mined out the underneath of the pyramid, there's loads there [13:40] what do you do once you've made these things? [13:40] it is purely a construction game or is there a point where you "use" it [13:40] Build another project :) [13:40] i don't think i "get" it [13:41] oimon, it's essentially a giant lego game. [13:41] at least in the sims, you can "live" in your houses [13:41] oimon: do you "get" lego? [13:42] i'm not deliberately trollling, i'm just wondering if there's something i missed [13:42] it was a serious question [13:42] popey: i get real lego. i wouldn't get virtual lego [13:42] why? [13:42] i make airfix models [13:42] thats not lego [13:42] I'm specifically drawing the "it's like lego" comparison [13:42] oimon, I thought it was pointless when I first heard of it...a game with no story, no...um...plot. No ending etc. Now I can't stop playing the damn game :) [13:43] lego is a toy for < 8 yr olds [13:43] rubbish [13:43] i play with lego with my 4 year old son [13:43] and I enjoy it as much as he does [13:43] popey: +1 [13:43] but you wouldn't play with it if 4yr old wasn't there [13:43] * JamesTait does [13:43] Me too and my son's now 13 and still play with lego :) [13:43] you're taking being a grumpy old fart to olympic levels [13:44] i will enjoy playing lego when my son is old enough [13:44] i know adults who play with lego, and they have no children [13:44] And I even play with it on my own. the biggest advantage of Minecraft over Lego? [13:44] But I also don't find Minecraft particularly appealing. To each their own. [13:44] I also play minecraft with my kids [13:44] but i will enjoy doing something with my son. [13:44] all three of us playing together [13:44] that sounds fine to me [13:44] You can't in the middle of night step on a tiny lego block lying around and curse aloud. [13:44] I did love SimCity though, even though I didn't think I would. [13:44] yeah, I loved the original simcity too [13:45] note that minecraft isnt finished yet [13:45] simcity has a purpose, even if it is to make a massive city and loads of cash [13:45] they _are_ adding 'game' elements to it [13:45] minecraft will too oimon [13:45] ok..that was my question [13:45] it just doesn't yet [13:45] So if I did actually start playing Minecraft, I may well become hopelessly addicted. [13:45] they added achievements in the most recent update [13:45] JamesTait: this is likely :) [13:45] believe me when i'm not trolling, i just wanted to know if there's a point [13:45] Which is another reason for me not to play it, because I don't have time for another vice. [13:45] oimon: there is a point, it's fun [13:45] having fun _is_ a point [13:46] aye...in popey's server - a railway system is getting build - so it's like building a city now although with strange buildings :) [13:46] heh [13:46] not having played it, i thuoght the fun would wear off a bit..but i really know very little about the game besides watching some youtune and looking at your map [13:46] glad we dont have a council dictating the planning rules :) [13:46] can you ride on the railway [13:46] the fun can wear off, as with anythin [13:46] yes [13:46] that's true...no planning permission required to blow up a mountain [13:46] any youtube clips ;) [13:46] I'm currently building a long extension to the railway [13:47] oh some people even use the rails system to make a giant rollercoaster...hmm...that's a project to do next... [13:47] http://popey.com/minecraft/gmap/?x=-475&y=64&z=1585&zoom=-4 [13:47] ^^^ my new leg of rail [13:48] I saw that...was wondering who was building that and how they managed to find all that iron to do it :) [13:49] ahem [13:49] Better start shutting my laptop down, I have a session to attend right round the other side of the hotel shortly. [13:49] o/ [13:50] I really wish suspend and resume worked on my machine. [13:50] I really wish I had more time to start figuring out why it doesn't. [13:50] * JamesTait waves [13:50] ttfn [13:51] ciao [13:51] I need to allocate enough swap to be able to do that [13:51] * popey wonders what machine he has [13:55] network mangler's put me of wanting suspend to work [13:55] though everything bar nm seems to cope with resuming quite happily [14:04] Any PHP devs in here done any work with the Twitter API? [14:05] my brother has, and I think he's on jabber, so I can forward simple questions at him? [14:05] Jabber \o/ [14:05] What's his choice of library? As there are several on offer [14:05] hah, jabber's become a synonym for 'IM' as far as I'm concerned now :) [14:05] :) [14:06] bigcalm: I've asked him, but he went 'away' between my checking and you asking, so I might have to get back to you when he's back [14:06] BigRedS: thanks :) [14:07] no probs, [14:07] though I've not got you an answer yet :) [14:08] But thank you for taking the time to ask :) [14:23] has anyone here used netcat to test the stability of an inter-office network connection? I think there are occasional disconnects, and would like to gather information, netcat seems like it might do what I need. [14:42] dwatkins: are you sure it's what you want? [14:42] If you want to monitor a connection, something like Wireshark would probably be better [14:44] MattJ: not entirely, I've asked them to just run a ping for 10 minutes [14:45] Try mtr instead, it will show you at which hop the pings get dropped [14:45] and it can run continuously [14:46] thanks MattJ [14:47] dwatkins: Sounds like someone is hijacking their IP address. [14:47] * popey files bug 781154 [14:47] Launchpad bug 781154 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu) "Wishlist: Figlet export ASCIIfied BFD to /usr/share/figlet*.flc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781154 [14:49] jpds: aha, good call, I'll make certain they check that - thanks :) [14:57] * AlanBell observes that popey has finally lost it [14:59] AlanBell: I agree. Completely loopy :) [14:59] Because of the lack of

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[14:59]  Tut tut
[15:01]  The program 'figlet' can be found in the following packages:
[15:01]   * toilet
[15:01]   * figlet
[15:01]  Unexpected
[15:04]  figlets often have that effect on me
[15:04]  HEh
[15:35]  Pyrus (PHP PEAR) - yay or nay?
[15:35]  hay
[15:36]  Humm, requires PHP 5.3+
[15:39]  5.3 is what all the cool kids are using these days, apparently
[15:42]  5.3 breaks CakePHP 1.1
[15:43]  One of our client's project is in CakePHP 1.1 and with no budget or desire to upgrade the framework
[15:43]  Which is a pain as a dev
[15:44]  Another client's project uses an old version of moregroupware that only runs on PHP 4
[15:44]  * bigcalm shudders
[15:45]  could anyone let me know if this is in the right direction for a server setup http://oi55.tinypic.com/316x92b.jpg
[15:46]  If the main database server goes down, what access is there to aws?
[15:46]  Oh, I see
[15:47]  :)
[15:47]  Did you work out file sync?
[15:50]  bigcalm: not done file sync yet, only have 1 loadbalancer to 1 server + master db
[15:50]  i just dont know what if the load balancer goes FFFFUUUUUUUU
[15:50]  6x servers sitting round doing nothing
[15:52]  With round robin dns it would continue to work
[15:53]  this is aws elastic load balancer
[15:55]  Do they say what would happen in that case then?
[15:58]  There hasn't been any package updates for 10.04.2 for a few days. I wonder what's wrong
[15:58]  do you not have postfix or exim installed?
[15:59]  you should get an update for the security issues on those
[15:59]  apticron is installed on all of my servers. It's been quiet for a while
[16:00]  There we go
[16:01]  Did a manual update and postfix wanted updating
[16:01]  Guess it's just been quiet for a bit
[16:01]  !ingo apticron
[16:01]  !info apticron
[16:01]  apticron (source: apticron): Simple tool to mail about pending package updates. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.45 (natty), package size 12 kB, installed size 112 kB
[16:02]  have updates on my desktop though
[16:02]  chromium seems to update every day
[16:05]  guys, seen this? http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/government-save-millions-ict read stuff on el reg about it but the details look promising
[16:06]  anyone good with ATI cards in Ubuntu?
[16:23]  http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[16:23]  :D
[16:34]  indeed
[16:40]  hmmm
[16:40]  who knew job centre folks would make you fill out a ton of paper work
[16:41]  fecking hell 2 days in a row
[16:41]  Get a job you bum!
[16:41]  :)
[16:41]  Do_Not_Go_There
[16:42]  popey, I know some ATI stuff..
[16:42]  kazade: seems the issue was resolved with a reboot :)
[16:42]  thanks though
[16:42]  ah k
[16:42]  sorry, I forgot about IRC for a few hours there ;)
[16:43]  :)
[16:45]  czajkowski: has something bad happened? i thought you worked at sirius?
[16:45]  oimon: I did, nothing bad just contract finished.
[16:45]  ah ok
[16:46]  what you looking for?
[16:46]  not sure back to more techincal work or more open source if I can get it, or plan D anything
[16:46]  Plan F: Wait on tables
[16:48]  Doesn't gord need a biscuit & coffee gofer - That could be a full time job
[16:48]  DJones: gord has cats
[16:48]  this is a no go
[16:48]  there, my water cooled monster is up and running properly :D
[16:49]  Azelphur: hows the mining?
[16:49]  popey:  havn't started yet, I'm going to start overclocking tonight
[16:49]  haha
[16:49]  BTC up to nearly $6USD each today :)
[16:50]  is that what you have?
[16:50]  is what?
[16:50]  6 USD/day
[16:50]  I was just quoting the exchange rate
[16:50]  no, thats how much they're selling for
[16:50]  wtf, it was $3 like a week ago
[16:50]  $5.80 or so
[16:50]  yeah
[16:50]  jeez
[16:50]  indeed
[16:50]  and getting ever harder to mine as the days go by :)
[16:51]  hehe, not so much for me
[16:51]  I can do 150mhash/sec without overclocking
[16:51]  i shouldn't do major software upgrades so late in the day :(
[16:52]  it gets harder for everyone
[16:52]  popey: i have acess to a HPC cluster..can i make a small fortune in producing bitcons?
[16:52]  if they have GPUs, probably yes
[16:53]  if you can sell them :)
[16:53]  few hundred nodes...usually they are looking for planets but hey
[16:53]  heh
[16:53]  they are looking for a linux cluster admin if anyone is interested
[16:54]  i think it's been mentioned on linuxjobs
[16:54]  popey: my bitcoin doesn't seem to want to connect, haha
[16:55]  failure
[16:56]  oh there we go, 1 connection
[16:56]  0 connections :(
[16:56]  heh
[16:58]  popey: 40C idle, 55.5C running stress --cpu 8
[16:58]  so 55.5C is my absolute max temp that'll ever happen :D
[17:00]  oh wait, 55.5 but I don't have the fans at all cranked up. Lets crank the fans up :D
[17:06]  Only just read about bitcoin. Guess it's not big news yet
[17:06]  its been mentioned on cnn
[17:06]  I don't watch cnn
[17:06]  neither do i
[17:06]  i was merely indicating it's maintsreamness
[17:06]  I see
[17:07]  the more people who get involved the harder it is to generate coins apparently
[17:07]  Seems little point to it if it doesn't actually work
[17:08]  define work
[17:09]  * popey pokes dutchie 
[17:09]  what
[17:09]  I don't see myself paying my rent with it :)
[17:09]  why am i being poked?
[17:09]  * Azelphur pokes dutchie
[17:10]  this is worse than facebook
[17:10]  look up dutchie
[17:10]  same convo in two channels
[17:10]  yes
[17:10]  btc is annoying
[17:10]  Heh
[17:10]  every day i think "oh far too expensive to buy any now, should have done it months ago"
[17:11]  then the next day they have gained another 50% of value
[17:11]  i suspect i would not do particularly well in the world of stocks and shares
[17:19]  dutchie: you're doing a maths degree aren't you? the analytical arms of broking houses love that sort of degree
[17:19]  Oh I do like "Send to phone" in chrome :)
[17:20]  Until I get a tablet, reading documentation will be done on my phone
[17:20]  (I need to rest my back but do research at the same time)
[17:24]  [Jonathan Riddell] Ubuntu Developer Summit in Budapest - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4429
[17:24]  Azelphur: you doing pooled mining?
[17:25]  Azelphur: and what cards did you go for in the end?
[17:25]  popey: I might do.
[17:25]  popey: I havn't build a bitcoin miner, this is just my personal PC xD
[17:25]  sure
[17:25]  although using my idle time for bitcoin sounds like fun.
[17:25]  I have a GTX 570 and a 8800GT
[17:26]  danfish: i have no desire whatsoever to go into finance of any type
[17:26]  http://www.ebuyer.com/product/262643 holy cow
[17:27]  dutchie: good on you :)
[17:27]  people seriously buy video cards that are 600+notes?
[17:27]  Whats the betting you need the nvidia driver for it
[17:27]  I used to comically buy them
[17:28]  wonder if unity will work better with this GTX460 than my old 7900GT :)
[17:29]  well it works absolutely fine with my 8600gt
[17:29]  when I say it works absolutely fine, I mean from a graphical performance perspective of course
[17:30]  it's certainly better once you get rid of the stupid delays in alt-tab
[17:30]  why on earth you'd want to deliberately slow down the act of switching from one app to another, I can't quite fathom
[17:31]  for the same reason many other decisions where made in unity
[17:32]  drugs. stay away from them or if they didn't take drugs, take more of them
[17:32]  i suspect its a compiz default
[17:32]  not a concious decision
[17:32]  after much tinkering, playing and tampering I've gone back to gnome 2 and docky
[17:33]  it's superior in every wat
[17:33]  way even
[17:35]  same, gnome 2 is just much more customisable
[17:35]  gnome 3 was ok but still has many issues that they need to sort out
[17:36]  you change your tune :)
[17:37]  < Psychobudgie> in that case put gnome 3 on all the new machines, they'll love you for it
[17:37]  popey, that was in response to him commenting that his staff don't like anything new
[17:37]  I know :)
[17:37]  I was pulling you leg.
[17:38]  heh
[17:38]  gnome 3 though is still a million miles better than unity
[17:39]  I don't know, I'm not sure about the window management and the way that the workspaces now work
[17:39]  workspaces work surprisingly well
[17:39]  window management while not perfect is way better than unity
[17:39]  can atleast find the window I need quickly in gnome 3
[17:40]  gnome 3's workspace management ran realllly slowly with in onboard graphics 'cause of the "slide" on sort of effect changing workspaces
[17:40]  so I kinda gave up with it
[17:40]  that, and I couldn't figure out how to move the close button to the left
[17:40]  reaper4334, did you try using fallback mode
[17:41]  What's fallback mode? I can't say I looked into it for long
[17:41]  it's for onboard chipsets, etc
[17:41]  less graphic effects
[17:41]  ah, I didn't know about that. Whereabouts would I find it? I might have to give it another try with that
[17:42]  don't know, never had to use it. It's mentioned on the gnome 3 site though
[17:42]  fair enough, I'll have a look into that and give it another try then
[18:04]  Does anyone know how to make xchat automatically identify with nickserv?
[18:08]  you need to ctrl-s
[18:08]  and go to edit
[18:09]  and u put your nickserv password there
[18:09]  u also might want to add "set irc_join_delay 5" in connect command
[18:10]  to stop it trying to join your channels before indentifying
[18:10]  ctrl-s saves discussion transcript?
[18:10]  go to xchat->network list
[18:13]  thanks, I tried that.. I'll reconnect and see if it works
[18:16]  yeah I think that worked, thanks
[18:16]  cool :)
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[18:50]  popey: grr, it takes me like 2 hours to get a bitcoin connection
[18:50]  wonder what's up with it :s
[18:52]  still, mining now :D, currently pulling 130k mhash
[18:59]  what is bitcoin mining?
[19:00]  bitcoins
[19:26]  kkitano: From the descriptions, bitcoins seem to be internet money backed by fresh air
[19:27]  damn, conky is annoying me.
[19:27]  It keeps crashing with "Conky: you don't need that many fonts, sorry."
[19:27]  what a stupid, annoying error.
[19:28]  Azelphur: well, you don't need that many fonts! :)
[19:28]  \o/
[19:28]  except that I do, I have a rather intricate setup I worked on for quite a while :/
[19:29]  Azelphur: 13 years ago: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981017
[19:30]  exactly :p
[19:30]  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/Janurary%202011/2011-01-13-041505_3840x1200_scrot.png my conky setup wins :(
[19:30]  it also needs lots of fonts.
[19:32]  Lots of fonts is usually a sign of doing it wrong :)
[19:33]  or the sign of using weather and icon fonts.
[19:34]  MartijnVdS: I think it's actually complaining more because I use the same set of fonts often, rather than different fonts too
[19:38]  omg, it just crashes randomly with that error, so annoying :/
[19:39]  it runs for a while then dies :(
[19:40]  I guess I'll try taking an icon font out and using images to replace it... *sigh*
[19:43]  if it really comes to it I guess I'll have to do something totally retarded like embedding the static text that conky renders onto my wallpaper.
[19:45]  yep still errors, embedding text into the wallpaper ftw.
[19:46]  evening all - I'm getting a "504 gateway time-out" on the Ubuntu One Music store (via RhythmBox) for the last couple of evenings - is it actually down?
[19:52]  Azelphur: I do love your conky setup
[19:52]  matthew_: no idea, I'd ask in #ubuntuone
[19:55]  Hi
[19:56]  I have aproblem in connecting with en0
[19:56]  can someone help plz
[19:56]  hello
[19:56]  any one here
[19:58]  Azelphur, that's an awesome conky setup there :)
[19:58]  I need help
[19:59]  I am facing aproblem with connection
[20:05]  I've never tried conky, does it go well with unity?
[20:12]  http://alpha.gov.uk/          ........ oh dear
[20:12]  oh dear?
[20:13]  yes, oh dear
[20:13]  they let web designers make it
[20:13]  which means it's impossible to find anything
[20:13]  but it sure does *look* nice
[20:14]  it will look horribly dated in about 6 months of course
[20:14]  and ironically the first thing it says is "Alpha.gov.uk is an experimental prototype of a single UK Government website. It aims to be as simple as possible..."
[20:15]  yes
[20:15]  that's why everything is in 16pt font
[20:15]  incase you have bad eyesight and you don't know how to zoom in
[20:15]  yeahh
[20:15]  of course since everything is in 16pt, there's hardly any room for more than about 10 words on each page
[20:15]  but that's ok, because too many words just confuses people
[20:19]  Haha: "that 6 megabyte video becomes 8 MB for transit because it has to be encoded as 80 column lines that are safe for punch cards" http://blog.mimecast.com/2011/02/why-is-email-so-complicated-part-221-the-legacy-of-punch-cards/
[20:31]  Hi, I've done a minimal Ubuntu install, but I have no sound, could someone tell me what I need to do to get sound, Thank You
[20:32]  What sound card do you use?
[20:33]  I'm not sure, I'm using a laptop
[20:33]  What laptop is it?
[20:33]  acer
[20:33]  Not sure. Have you tried checking to see if any additional drivers need to be installed?
[20:33]  System Settings -> Additional Drivers
[20:34]  for a sound card?
[20:35]  pardon?
[20:36]  is there a command line command I can do?
[20:37]  GreenDance: try alsamixer first -- see if the channels aren't muted
[20:41]  hi guys I recently installed ubuntu 11.04 on my hp pavilion laptop dv6-3150 sa. i am using gnome interface and my compiz is not wokring, can any one help
[20:41]  pls
[20:42]  i have got switchable graphics inside
[20:42]  ati+intel
[20:43]  ocean22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[20:44]  MartijnVdS, thanks, i had a look at that, i think switcheroo is already installed, where can i find it to switch
[20:45]  reaper4334: cat /proc/asound/cards
[20:45]  reaper4334: anything listed there?
[20:52]  popey, did you mean to ask that to GreenDance?
[20:55]  Lightning is rubbish
[20:55]  I can't seem to find a way to customise the printed calender very much
[20:59]  oops
[20:59]  * daubers considers altering the JS to pull a stylesheet from somewhere else
[21:25]  [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S04E06  Look for the Truth - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/05/11/s04e06-look-for-the-truth/
[21:25]  [Alistair McKinlay] Video of the Week: Chromebooks - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/05/video-of-the-week-chromebooks/
[21:31]  popey: fix your url link
[21:31]  extra S
[21:35]  Heh www.pocket-lint.com seems to be having problems, nice error message being displayed http://www.pocket-lint.com/images/im-in-ur-serverz.gif
[21:35]  And seems to be fixed very quickly
[21:38]  czajkowski: can you be slightly more specific?
[21:38]  S04E06 S Look for the Truth
[21:38]  the S
[21:39]  is there a reason for it or am I being thick in reading it ?
[21:39]  not a problem I can fix
[21:39]  its the bot, not the site
[21:39]  possibly a unicode issue
[21:40]  ah okie dokie
[21:40]  but not me being thick
[21:40]  which ya know is also possible
[21:40]  :)
[21:41]  lo all
[21:41]  hello
[21:43]  http://chrome.angrybirds.com/ <<---
[21:43]  you could use - instead of –
[21:44]  dunno where the – comes from
[21:44]  i think wordpress is doing it
[21:46]  popey: it does
[21:46]  ah
[21:46]  silly wordpress
[21:46]  it also has a function that capitalizes any mention of the word 'Wordpress' properly
[21:47]  on every request, content or template
[21:47]  oh dear
[21:47]  lol
[21:47]  mgdm: I wish Ubuntu did on its system
[21:47]  I had a tweet from a friend today
[21:47]  "If I ask nicely will you install Ubuntu on my Dads PC?"
[21:47]  awwwww
[21:47]  bet it's a manky old heap of junk
[21:47]  I have asked for specs :)
[21:47]  charge him :)
[21:50]  Does anyone have 11.04 running in a VM using VirtualBox? Does Virtualbox support unity?
[21:53]  Mr-Woof: Not sure if this willhelp, but http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/how-to-test-ubuntu-1104-with-unity-in.html
[21:53]  thanks for the link, I'll have a look
[21:54]  There may be something more up-to-date on the web, but that was the first link I found, somebody has posted either that one or something similar fairly recently though
[21:55]  It's just installing now in VirtualBox, I'll have a go and report back with results :-)
[22:14]  Mr-Woof: I've heard it works if you use the latest vbox, and install guest additions from ubuntu's repo rather than thru the vbox ui
[22:17]  hmm thanks, It's installed and using the command in the link didn't work. It came up with a 3d hardware error.
[22:17]  I'll see what else I can find
[22:18]  anyone by change used awstats with cherokee?
[22:22]  nn folks
[22:24]  laters
[22:26]  home :)
[22:26]  uds was fun!
[22:29]  hi guys i was trying to install simple-ccsm on ubuntu 11.04 (64 bit) i am getting this error meessage simple-ccsm:
[22:29]   Depends: python-compizconfig but it is not going to be installed
[22:29]   Depends: compizconfig-settings-manager but it is not going to be installed
[22:29]  can any one help
[22:30]  do you explicitly need simple-ccsm?
[22:31]  gord, i was trying to install ubuntu control centre. it needs simple cssm to complete its installation
[22:33]  interesting, not sure what the solution is there
[22:35]  gord, is there any chance that u can help me with some issue of switchable graphics on ubuntu
[22:58]  ubuntu kernel git is down :(
[22:58]  anyone got a mirror?
[22:58]  maybe there'sone on kernel.org