[13:37] <HTDx64> hello, can I ask display driver related question here?
[13:38] <tjaalton> sure
[13:42] <HTDx64> Is Radeon HD4870 supported in 11.04? I've tried to install it, and I get kernel panic each time, with lot's of magic text (mostly hex-like) and the only understable thing is "Radeon" :)
[13:42] <HTDx64> it happens both when trying "Install Ubuntu" and "Try without installing" option
[13:43] <tjaalton> should work yes
[13:44] <HTDx64> so what could be the cause? BIOS settings?
[13:46] <tjaalton> you could try adding "radeon.modeset=0" to the kernel cmdline
[13:54] <HTDx64> when I had 11.04 installed (via upgrade), i had major display problems - artifacts (white rectangles in random places, noise, pixels), very slow performance on open drivers. on FGLRX the problem was with very frequent crashes. are they known problems, or rather uncommon? could it mean my Radeon is broken?
[13:58] <tjaalton> does it happen with windows? or an older ubuntu version?
[14:01] <HTDx64> no problems with windows, on 10.10 there was a slight artifact problem with open driver, disappeared with FGLRX.
[14:02] <tjaalton> ok so it regressed
[14:02] <tjaalton> but do try the option i told
[14:03] <HTDx64> ok, I'll check this out
[14:04] <tjaalton> if it works, please file a bug against the kernel
[14:04] <tjaalton> 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[14:05] <tjaalton> and you could add xserver-xorg-video-ati as an additional component to the bug
[14:05] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe just run 'ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati' and we can take it from there
[14:08] <HTDx64> i'll try to boot it now, how can I add a cmdline when menu appears?
[14:09] <tjaalton> press 'e' to edit the boot option
[14:09] <tjaalton> then select the line that says kernel
[14:09] <tjaalton> and add the option to the end
[14:10] <HTDx64> any "," or ";" or " " before?
[14:13] <HTDx64> nevermind, I'll figure it out, rebooting...
[14:54] <HTDx64> hello
[14:54] <HTDx64> I've just installed 11.04 with radeon.modeset=0 option
[14:55] <tjaalton> so it worked?
[14:55] <HTDx64> so far so good, there was some artifacts on top bar, but they disappeared, I'll try to install FGLRX...
[14:55] <tjaalton> file the bug first
[14:55] <tjaalton> without the option
[14:56] <tjaalton> if it boots..
[14:57] <HTDx64> should I try to boot from USB without the option now?
[14:58] <tjaalton> hmm
[14:58] <tjaalton> so the installed system doesn't have that option
[14:58] <tjaalton> got confused there
[14:59] <HTDx64> I've added this option on installation USB
[14:59] <tjaalton> right, but it's probably not used on the installed system
[14:59] <tjaalton> check /etc/default/grub
[14:59] <HTDx64> I'm checking this right now
[14:59] <tjaalton> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[15:00] <tjaalton> it normally has just "quiet splash"
[15:00] <HTDx64> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[15:00] <tjaalton> right
[15:00] <tjaalton> and actually, cat /proc/cmdline
[15:01] <tjaalton> would confirm what you had
[15:01] <HTDx64> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=e88bf567-bc60-4140-b0db-3d110c8a7f51 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[15:02] <tjaalton> right
[15:02] <tjaalton> so.. it's weird
[15:03] <tjaalton> the live-session _should_ be identical to the installed version
[15:03] <tjaalton> and there are no updates either that should explain this
[15:03] <HTDx64> well, I've checked updates on install, and ran update right after installing
[15:04] <HTDx64> but it booted before update
[15:04] <tjaalton> yeah, but still, there is no newer kernel etc that could've fixed it (that's not on the cd)
[15:08] <HTDx64> i've experienced such strange behaviour with hardware before (soundcard / network was dead untill powered off for 30 seconds) - reset / reboot didn't help. i'll just try to boot it from USB once more. if it boots - it was a hardware problem then.
[15:15] <HTDx64> seems like no bug here - it boots now without the option, I think it's something wrong with my PC (Radeon or chipset)
[15:15] <tjaalton> heh,ok
[15:17] <HTDx64> BTW, is it possible to install Gnome 3 with Radeon FGLRX driver?
[15:17] <tjaalton> guess it should work
[15:18] <tjaalton> though natty doesn't have gnome 3
[15:19] <HTDx64> I've tried to use special PPA for this, but it worked only with open driver. with FGLRX it crashed with screen blinking like crazy. but again it could be my Radeon - something is obviously wrong with it
[15:19] <tjaalton> ok, dunno then
[15:20] <HTDx64> thanks anyway, now I have Natty installed :)
[15:59] <Sarvatt> tjaalton, RAOF: are you kidding me? did I just miss the wishlist bug session? it wasn't there when I looked at the schedule earlier, did it just get rescheduled in the past again?
[16:01] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: yep, we're done :)
[16:02] <tjaalton> a couple of bugs left, dind't have time to go through all of them
[16:02] <Sarvatt> it was scheduled at the same time as the fwts one, then disappeared so I went to fwts, then after fwts got out it wasn't on the schedule at all
[16:04] <ricotz> hi, is it already decided which xserver version will be targeted?
[16:05] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hi ^
[16:05] <Sarvatt> ricotz: most likely 1.10.x
[16:05] <ricotz> (meaning the border-barrier support)
[16:06] <ricotz> hmm, ok, any chance this is going to be backported from trunk?
[16:06] <Sarvatt> (which still isn't even in 1.11)
[16:06] <Sarvatt> yeah it only exists as patches anyway as far as I know
[16:06] <ricotz> really, i though it is in the trunk, and fedora cherry-picked it
[16:07] <ricotz> alright, i think you know it better ;)
[16:08] <Sarvatt> I still dont see it in xserver master
[16:10] <ricotz> ok, i was hoping to test this with mutter/gnome-shell at some point soon
[16:11] <Sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/xserver-1.10-pointer-barriers.patch
[16:13] <ricotz> thanks
[16:52] <Sarvatt> RAOF: in case I forget at the planning session tomorrow, we need that pointer barriers patch in O :)
[17:12] <bjsnider> ricotz, does your home directory open when you click the sidebar link? mine doesn't
[17:18] <ricotz> bjsnider, you let nautilus handle your desktop?
[17:27] <bjsnider> ricotz, yes
[17:29] <ricotz> bjsnider, ok, i can confirm it with enabled nautilus-desktop, without it works though
[19:50] <AlexzAK> hi
[20:00] <AlexzAK> Please take a look in to my bug report #779607 about intel video i915
[20:01] <AlexzAK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/779607
[20:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 779607 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Xorg freeze with i915 chipset on Toshiba satelite l300-144 laptop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:27] <ricotz> bjsnider, the nautilus problem should be fixed
[23:21] <kcin1> i have a problem with my touchscreen,evtest works,but xinput test returns nothing