* tazz gotta go sleep too... | 00:20 | |
ulysses | morning people, still sleeping?:P | 05:12 |
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ScottK | ulysses: Good morning. | 05:32 |
ulysses | good morning ScottK | 05:33 |
ScottK | Hello. So you are visiting us today? | 05:33 |
ulysses | yepp, bus starts at 6:50 to the train station, train at 7:45, arriving Budapest at 10:15 | 05:34 |
ScottK | Great. | 05:35 |
ulysses | I go to the bus, see you later | 05:43 |
DarkwingDuck | Morning guys | 06:50 |
DarkwingDuck | Hey Riddell | 07:28 |
Riddell | hola | 07:44 |
shadeslayer | Morning guys :) | 07:45 |
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JontheEchidna | !find /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/clean-la.mk' | 08:13 |
ubottu | File /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/clean-la.mk found in gnome-pkg-tools | 08:13 |
JontheEchidna | bleh | 08:13 |
DarkwingDuck | Hey JontheEchidna | 08:15 |
DarkwingDuck | How are you this morning? | 08:15 |
JontheEchidna | pretty good | 08:15 |
JontheEchidna | found a bug in a gstreamer package description, and I had to install gnome-pkg-tools to even do a debuild -S -sd | 08:15 |
debfx | JontheEchidna: you can use -nc once debuild supports it (devscripts >= 2.10.70) | 08:18 |
JontheEchidna | this is -nc for source builds rather than just binary builds? | 08:19 |
debfx | I think it works for both | 08:19 |
JontheEchidna | cool | 08:19 |
JontheEchidna | that would make things easier | 08:20 |
ScottK | That or just use dpkg-buildpackage which supports -nc since approximately forever. | 08:26 |
JontheEchidna | jussi: bad news, turns out your bug is a QApt bug after some serious digging. Good news is, I've most likely fixed it. | 08:33 |
JontheEchidna | DonKult told me in person that Julian Klode left a really nasty comment in the LP bug, so I am going to be a little troll and never touch it again, but the bug will be fixed | 08:34 |
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JontheEchidna | udslogger: are you going to the upstream translations session? | 08:57 |
JontheEchidna | I'd sort of like to go to a different one, but we need somebody there | 08:57 |
udslogger | aye | 08:59 |
* valorie will be there remotely | 09:01 | |
valorie | although no sound yet | 09:01 |
valorie | riddell is at least in the channel..... | 09:07 |
valorie | and on the etherpad | 09:07 |
Riddell | hmm? | 09:07 |
Riddell | I'm in launchpad translations | 09:07 |
valorie | JontheEchidna was eager that someone be there | 09:07 |
valorie | I'm there remotely | 09:08 |
JontheEchidna | I'm in the "Improve handling of release announcements in update-manager" session | 09:08 |
JontheEchidna | it also has a bit to do with l10n | 09:08 |
valorie | cool | 09:09 |
udslogger | ScottK: btw, b43 is the floss driver for broadcom, switching to bcmwl makes network work properly | 09:09 |
JontheEchidna | The way this discussion is headed I think that there may be some need for kubuntu representation | 09:09 |
DarkwingDuck | JontheEchidna: what session? | 09:10 |
JontheEchidna | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-update-manager-release-announcements | 09:11 |
ScottK | udslogger: That explains it then. I'm using bcmwl. | 09:12 |
udslogger | *nod* | 09:12 |
udslogger | ulysses: are you at the u and d and s already? | 09:13 |
bambee | morning | 09:14 |
udslogger | jussi: do you think we can ever get the admins to ensure the font on the irc projection is not flipping small? | 09:16 |
udslogger | once again I am sitting in the back of the room and I cannot read fck | 09:16 |
jussi | udslogger: Im on it | 09:16 |
udslogger | jussi++ | 09:16 |
udslogger | jussi: they should also create a setup-proceedings paper that includes "ensure font size is appropriate" ;) | 09:17 |
jussi | udslogger: where are you? | 09:17 |
udslogger | jussi: krudy... upstream translation import | 09:18 |
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udslogger | hehe, the irc projection is being taken over by dialogs ^^ | 09:20 |
valorie | my god that room is noisy | 09:23 |
afiestas | valorie: which one? | 09:24 |
valorie | krudy | 09:25 |
valorie | sirens and construction sounds | 09:25 |
JontheEchidna | lol | 09:25 |
Quintasan | oh shit | 09:25 |
JontheEchidna | that's the unventilated room that must have the windows open to avoid heat stroke | 09:25 |
Quintasan | the Rodrigo I pulled off was longer I intended | 09:25 |
JontheEchidna | you only had 30 minutes when I saw you from the elevator, how long were you planning on? | 09:26 |
Quintasan | exactly this long | 09:26 |
JontheEchidna | lol | 09:26 |
Quintasan | where are you now? | 09:26 |
JontheEchidna | I am in erkel listening to update-manager stuff and making sure that kubuntu doesn't get left behind | 09:26 |
JontheEchidna | others are in the upstream translation import session | 09:27 |
Quintasan | That's not relevant to my intrests | 09:27 |
ScottK | valorie: I'm in the translations session too and the window is open because the room is quite warm. | 09:28 |
Quintasan | docs review is relevant | 09:28 |
Quintasan | I'm going to show up there | 09:28 |
valorie | yes, me too | 09:30 |
valorie | going to try to stay awake for the council session | 09:31 |
udslogger | JontheEchidna: oh yeah, I was thinking you should go there :P | 09:32 |
udslogger | Quintasan: I dont even know what we do in the doc review session | 09:33 |
Quintasan | udslogger: And why else do you think I'm going to show up there instead Rodrigo'ing a little bit more? | 09:34 |
* udslogger pulled a rodrigo instead of having breakfast | 09:35 | |
afiestas | I almost made a Rodrigo today :/ it cost me a little bit to waking up | 09:35 |
DarkwingDuck | udslogger: Did jussi show you his Unity looking desktop? | 09:36 |
jussi | DarkwingDuck: he tweeted it | 09:36 |
DarkwingDuck | ROFL | 09:36 |
DarkwingDuck | I was reviewing open browser tabs and saw it again. | 09:37 |
jussi | DarkwingDuck: go look at his identica/tweets - on identica there is a huge crazy discussion :P :P | 09:37 |
JontheEchidna | udslogger: they might switch from the .txt release upgrade notes to a webpage from marketting | 09:37 |
JontheEchidna | so we need to make sure that we get attention | 09:37 |
udslogger | yeah, force ubuntu branding into kubuntu | 09:38 |
udslogger | hooray | 09:38 |
jussi | udslogger: ? | 09:38 |
udslogger | JontheEchidna: any reason for that? | 09:38 |
JontheEchidna | more l10n-able | 09:39 |
udslogger | jussi: if it is a webpage, the webpage will carry ubuntu branding | 09:39 |
JontheEchidna | plus dx doesn't think the current notes inspire people to upgrade | 09:39 |
udslogger | thus causing more brand polution | 09:39 |
jussi | who what? | 09:39 |
udslogger | JontheEchidna: well, so they should create a simple markup :P | 09:39 |
udslogger | and then theme accordingly | 09:39 |
udslogger | + translating plain text ought to be easier than webpages, no? | 09:40 |
JontheEchidna | the current method for whatever reason doesn't have l10n | 09:40 |
udslogger | that does not mean that the method is bad though | 09:40 |
udslogger | just that the impl is limited | 09:40 |
JontheEchidna | here are the notes: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-update-manager-release-announcements/ | 09:41 |
udslogger | lol | 09:42 |
udslogger | JontheEchidna: the first 3 paras are *exactly* what is solved by the existing l10n technologies | 09:42 |
valorie | blast and damn | 09:45 |
valorie | double sessions twice today | 09:45 |
valorie | I'm missing so much! | 09:45 |
udslogger | ScottK: would we actually want that? | 09:47 |
ScottK | I would have to be convinced. | 09:49 |
JontheEchidna | udslogger: pretty much it is the desktop/marketing teams' excuse to pimp out the release notes | 09:52 |
* JontheEchidna is in tas now | 09:52 | |
valorie | I'm going there, but break is now, right? | 09:54 |
udslogger | rbelem: persia suggests you should attend the kernel verion and flavors session in krudy | 09:56 |
udslogger | since we might need a new kernel for tablets, if we get a device that is | 09:56 |
udslogger | if someone sees him plz fwd ^ | 09:56 |
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Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Docs stuff is in Tas? | 09:58 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: yup | 09:58 |
Quintasan | omw | 09:58 |
JontheEchidna | I am now saying it is exactly 11:00 | 10:00 |
JontheEchidna | valorie, DarkwingDuck^ | 10:00 |
DarkwingDuck | Yup... it was good. Almost no lag | 10:01 |
JontheEchidna | nice | 10:01 |
valorie | danke darling | 10:05 |
DarkwingDuck | Riddell: /win 26 | 10:41 |
DarkwingDuck | BAH | 10:42 |
bambee | have a good lunch :) | 11:14 |
JontheEchidna | udslogger: for your interest: bug 780971 | 11:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 780971 in kdeedu (Ubuntu Oneiric) "openbabel (main) should not b-d on wxwidgets (universe)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780971 | 11:50 |
udslogger | jussi: ping | 11:55 |
Riddell | ScottK: please approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-lightdm | 11:56 |
ScottK | Riddell: Done | 11:57 |
c2tarun | ScottK: I just got a mail from you about putting names forward for kubuntu-members. Can I put my name forward? | 12:02 |
ScottK | You have to be a kubuntu-member. | 12:02 |
Quintasan | c2tarun: we are voting for council members and to vote you have to be a kubuntu member | 12:03 |
c2tarun | ohh... (sorry I misunderstood) | 12:03 |
Quintasan | jussi: go to lobby for voucher | 12:07 |
debfx | Quintasan: kubuntu_17_enable_qtwebkit_for_qtassistant.diff shouldn't go upstream | 12:07 |
Quintasan | jussi: or meet me at lunch | 12:07 |
Quintasan | debfx: ddenis told us otherwise | 12:08 |
Quintasan | ask him not me | 12:08 |
Quintasan | im just pushing tem upstream | 12:08 |
debfx | Quintasan: they certainly won't accept it | 12:08 |
Quintasan | idont think i pushed it | 12:09 |
debfx | you added "keep it and propose upstream" to the whiteboard | 12:12 |
debfx | I'm not sure about kubuntu_29_egl_qglcontext_stubs.diff, afaik adding virtual functions is BIC | 12:13 |
ScottK | Riddell_: light dm is on the schedule now. | 12:56 |
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ScottK | claydoh: Can you make some kind of annoucement about KC elections (see /topic) on Kubuntu Forums? | 13:02 |
ScottK | It would also be nice if someone with ops in #kubuntu added something there too. | 13:03 |
ulysses | ksmanis: kcm-grub2 is going to extragear? | 13:17 |
ksmanis | ulysses: it's being reviewed atm | 13:18 |
ulysses | I'm doing the Hungarian translation right now | 13:18 |
ksmanis | good | 13:19 |
ulysses | kcm-grub2 was updated today in Kubuntu 11.10, so I can see my translations to work | 13:20 |
Riddell_ | seaLne: you've used the alternate CD before, if you have an opinion on if it should still exist there's a session in 40 minutes | 13:21 |
ksmanis | ulysses: btw there is already a hungarian translation | 13:23 |
ksmanis | by the hungarian kde translation team | 13:23 |
ulysses | I am the hungarian translation team ;) | 13:26 |
ksmanis | hah | 13:26 |
ksmanis | great | 13:26 |
Quintasan | jussi: PING | 13:26 |
jussi | Quintasan: what? | 13:27 |
Quintasan | jussi: Where are you? | 13:27 |
jussi | plenary? | 13:27 |
Quintasan | jussi: raise your hand | 13:27 |
jussi | no. | 13:27 |
Quintasan | lol | 13:27 |
jussi | center, slightly left of the horizontal aisle | 13:27 |
jussi | why do you need me? | 13:28 |
jussi | where are you? | 13:28 |
Quintasan | jussi: next to last exit on the back of the room | 13:28 |
seaLne | Riddell_: currently i don't think you can do encrypted disks with the live cd? | 13:28 |
Quintasan | jussi: I want to give you voucher before I lose it | 13:28 |
udslogger | Quintasan: did I win anything yet? | 13:28 |
udslogger | oh | 13:29 |
udslogger | and where do I get le voucher? | 13:29 |
udslogger | oh | 13:29 |
Quintasan | jussi: poke udslogger to get his too because he was too lazy | 13:29 |
Quintasan | oh | 13:29 |
udslogger | and where is emmit | 13:29 |
udslogger | oh | 13:29 |
udslogger | and where is denis? | 13:29 |
Quintasan | udslogger: Go to confenrence desk ie. where ladies are giving out Qt stickers | 13:29 |
jussi | im 2 exits in front of you | 13:29 |
seaLne | Riddell_: but yeah my uses apart from encrypted disks would probably be limited these days | 13:29 |
* udslogger needs coffee as he has le spellling issu0r | 13:30 | |
udslogger | Quintasan: meh. I am downstairs | 13:30 |
udslogger | jussi can pick it up :P | 13:30 |
Quintasan | udslogger: get voucher for jussi | 13:30 |
udslogger | Quintasan: did i win anything yet? | 13:30 |
Quintasan | I either missed announcement or they are going to announce it at the end | 13:31 |
udslogger | zomg that is evil | 13:31 |
udslogger | if the talks where even interesting and stuff | 13:32 |
Quintasan | udslogger: For denis, #qt-labs | 13:33 |
Quintasan | ddenis :P | 13:33 |
Riddell_ | seaLne: what else did you need it for? | 13:35 |
Riddell_ | LVM? | 13:35 |
Quintasan | udslogger: ohshi- | 13:37 |
Quintasan | udslogger: the prizes were for Linaro guys, not for us :S | 13:37 |
udslogger | lolwut? | 13:37 |
udslogger | terribly eval | 13:37 |
seaLne | Riddell_: yeah basically any non plain disk management stuff | 13:39 |
seaLne | Riddell_: in the past it was also the only way if you had a proxy | 13:39 |
c2tarun | I got this error while compiling telepathy-chat-handler. http://paste.kde.org/62815/ can anyone please help | 13:53 |
udslogger | DarkwingDuck: council! | 14:13 |
DarkwingDuck | udslogger: thanks for the vote of confidence. | 14:20 |
maco | seaLne: a session this week was on adding LVM support to the Live installer. which apparently i will need to figure out how to do because i said "yes" when asked to be kubuntu-installer-person this time | 15:01 |
maco | (ohgodsohgods) | 15:01 |
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fregl | hi distro people, does this sound like an ok solution to enable accessibility on the fly? https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/ATK2011/Agenda/EnablingAccessibilityProposal | 15:26 |
fregl | names and details are up for debate of course | 15:27 |
seaLne | maco: will encrypted support also be added? | 15:27 |
shadeslayer | udslogger: ubiquity is all pyth0rn right? | 15:46 |
JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: yes | 15:46 |
yofel | how did the alternate session go? | 15:47 |
udslogger | alternate is le dead | 15:47 |
fregl | udslogger: soon it's Randa time, you know what that means, right? | 15:48 |
udslogger | fluff!!!! | 15:48 |
fregl | omg!!! :D | 15:48 |
yofel | k, I'm not much of a d-i fan anyway, except that ubiquity is still lacking stuff | 15:48 |
udslogger | fregl: somehow that topic creeps up once a day here :P | 15:48 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: ok, i | 15:49 |
shadeslayer | erm | 15:49 |
udslogger | also plasma-netbook is crapz because it does not apply fluffy theme for some reason | 15:49 |
fregl | udslogger: poor you | 15:49 |
udslogger | yeah | 15:49 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i'm thinking of working on the networkmanager stuff for the Kubuntu Ubiquity installer | 15:49 |
fregl | udslogger: poke ddenis from me | 15:49 |
udslogger | I shall do so | 15:49 |
udslogger | fregl: did you see our kubuntu unity prototype? | 15:49 |
fregl | udslogger: no, didn't really | 15:50 |
udslogger | zomg | 15:50 |
fregl | too bad these events are all at the same time | 15:50 |
fregl | but gnome+mozilla accessibility people are cool | 15:50 |
shadeslayer | fregl: he leaked them KDinty pics | 15:50 |
udslogger | fregl: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/11/plasma-desktopgp1838.jpg | 15:50 |
j1mc | could someone who sees apachelogger around uds make sure that he talks to j1mc? (the docs guy)? | 15:51 |
fregl | haha | 15:51 |
udslogger | j1mc: where are you? | 15:51 |
udslogger | been looking for you all day | 15:51 |
j1mc | our sessions overlapped today, and i didn't get to see the kubuntu docs thing | 15:51 |
udslogger | actually I have a session in a bit | 15:51 |
j1mc | udslogger: i'm in the IRC council mtg | 15:51 |
udslogger | j1mc: do you have time after sessions? | 15:52 |
j1mc | yes, when would you like to meet up? | 15:52 |
udslogger | any time you want, I do not need dinner ^^ | 15:52 |
j1mc | :) | 15:52 |
* j1mc looks at my schedule | 15:53 | |
j1mc | udslogger: i'll join your next session, and we can talk afterwards | 15:54 |
udslogger | j1mc: okies, awesome | 15:55 |
shadeslayer | !search glibconfig.h | 16:07 |
ubottu | Found: | 16:07 |
shadeslayer | !find glibconfig.h | 16:07 |
ubottu | File glibconfig.h found in ats-lang-anairiats, libglib2.0-dev | 16:07 |
* j1mc waves at udslogger | 16:11 | |
maco | seaLne: that's a pretty common reason to use LVM, so i would imagine so | 16:21 |
j1mc | udslogger: i have to write up some stuff, so will be down in the non-smoking section of the lobby. | 16:23 |
udslogger | j1mc: ok | 16:23 |
Riddell_ | weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/63127/ | 16:29 |
maco | Riddell: are they looking for a program to teach Xhosa? maybe Parley? | 16:51 |
Riddell | I've no idea | 16:52 |
fregl | nice | 16:54 |
fregl | who wouldn't want their daily dosis of xhosa | 16:54 |
shadeslayer | jtechidna: i just talked to the guys who wrote plasma kparts and they said it should be possible | 17:12 |
shadeslayer | ( embedding KNM KParts in the installer ) | 17:13 |
jtechidna | cool | 17:14 |
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afiestas | rbelem: Quintasan aRRRRRm rum rum rum | 20:27 |
afiestas | udslogger: rum? | 20:27 |
afiestas | rbelem: udslogger Quintasan rum? | 20:41 |
yofel | shadeslayer: btw, with delay, but I did a bit of kdepim testing. Both versions seem to work fine, but you don't have the same opinion what files are supposed to go where: | 21:17 |
yofel | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4%3a4.5.95-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 21:17 |
yofel | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/korg-journal.png', which is also in package kjots 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu0~ppa1 | 21:17 |
allee | active | 22:09 |
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allee | anyone working on plasma-active pkgs or had a look how much work it would be? | 22:24 |
yofel | don't think so, esp. since most folks are at UDS this week | 22:27 |
yofel | iirc there was some talk about it though | 22:27 |
allee | yofel: ok, thx! | 22:29 |
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