[00:20] * tazz gotta go sleep too... [05:12] morning people, still sleeping?:P [05:32] ulysses: Good morning. [05:33] good morning ScottK [05:33] Hello. So you are visiting us today? [05:34] yepp, bus starts at 6:50 to the train station, train at 7:45, arriving Budapest at 10:15 [05:35] Great. [05:43] I go to the bus, see you later [06:50] Morning guys [07:28] Hey Riddell [07:44] hola [07:45] Morning guys :) === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina-uds [08:13] !find /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/clean-la.mk' [08:13] File /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/clean-la.mk found in gnome-pkg-tools [08:13] bleh [08:15] Hey JontheEchidna [08:15] How are you this morning? [08:15] pretty good [08:15] found a bug in a gstreamer package description, and I had to install gnome-pkg-tools to even do a debuild -S -sd [08:18] JontheEchidna: you can use -nc once debuild supports it (devscripts >= 2.10.70) [08:19] this is -nc for source builds rather than just binary builds? [08:19] I think it works for both [08:19] cool [08:20] that would make things easier [08:26] That or just use dpkg-buildpackage which supports -nc since approximately forever. [08:33] jussi: bad news, turns out your bug is a QApt bug after some serious digging. Good news is, I've most likely fixed it. [08:34] DonKult told me in person that Julian Klode left a really nasty comment in the LP bug, so I am going to be a little troll and never touch it again, but the bug will be fixed === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina-uds [08:57] udslogger: are you going to the upstream translations session? [08:57] I'd sort of like to go to a different one, but we need somebody there [08:59] aye [09:01] * valorie will be there remotely [09:01] although no sound yet [09:07] riddell is at least in the channel..... [09:07] and on the etherpad [09:07] hmm? [09:07] I'm in launchpad translations [09:07] JontheEchidna was eager that someone be there [09:08] I'm there remotely [09:08] I'm in the "Improve handling of release announcements in update-manager" session [09:08] it also has a bit to do with l10n [09:09] cool [09:09] ScottK: btw, b43 is the floss driver for broadcom, switching to bcmwl makes network work properly [09:09] The way this discussion is headed I think that there may be some need for kubuntu representation [09:10] JontheEchidna: what session? [09:11] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-update-manager-release-announcements [09:12] udslogger: That explains it then. I'm using bcmwl. [09:12] *nod* [09:13] ulysses: are you at the u and d and s already? [09:14] morning [09:16] jussi: do you think we can ever get the admins to ensure the font on the irc projection is not flipping small? [09:16] once again I am sitting in the back of the room and I cannot read fck [09:16] udslogger: Im on it [09:16] jussi++ [09:17] jussi: they should also create a setup-proceedings paper that includes "ensure font size is appropriate" ;) [09:17] udslogger: where are you? [09:18] jussi: krudy... upstream translation import === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina-uds [09:20] hehe, the irc projection is being taken over by dialogs ^^ [09:23] my god that room is noisy [09:24] valorie: which one? [09:25] krudy [09:25] sirens and construction sounds [09:25] lol [09:25] oh shit [09:25] that's the unventilated room that must have the windows open to avoid heat stroke [09:25] the Rodrigo I pulled off was longer I intended [09:26] you only had 30 minutes when I saw you from the elevator, how long were you planning on? [09:26] exactly this long [09:26] lol [09:26] where are you now? [09:26] I am in erkel listening to update-manager stuff and making sure that kubuntu doesn't get left behind [09:27] others are in the upstream translation import session [09:27] That's not relevant to my intrests [09:28] valorie: I'm in the translations session too and the window is open because the room is quite warm. [09:28] docs review is relevant [09:28] I'm going to show up there [09:30] yes, me too [09:31] going to try to stay awake for the council session [09:32] JontheEchidna: oh yeah, I was thinking you should go there :P [09:33] Quintasan: I dont even know what we do in the doc review session [09:34] udslogger: And why else do you think I'm going to show up there instead Rodrigo'ing a little bit more? [09:35] * udslogger pulled a rodrigo instead of having breakfast [09:35] I almost made a Rodrigo today :/ it cost me a little bit to waking up [09:36] udslogger: Did jussi show you his Unity looking desktop? [09:36] DarkwingDuck: he tweeted it [09:36] ROFL [09:37] I was reviewing open browser tabs and saw it again. [09:37] DarkwingDuck: go look at his identica/tweets - on identica there is a huge crazy discussion :P :P [09:37] udslogger: they might switch from the .txt release upgrade notes to a webpage from marketting [09:37] so we need to make sure that we get attention [09:38] yeah, force ubuntu branding into kubuntu [09:38] hooray [09:38] udslogger: ? [09:38] JontheEchidna: any reason for that? [09:39] more l10n-able [09:39] jussi: if it is a webpage, the webpage will carry ubuntu branding [09:39] plus dx doesn't think the current notes inspire people to upgrade [09:39] thus causing more brand polution [09:39] who what? [09:39] JontheEchidna: well, so they should create a simple markup :P [09:39] and then theme accordingly [09:40] + translating plain text ought to be easier than webpages, no? [09:40] the current method for whatever reason doesn't have l10n [09:40] that does not mean that the method is bad though [09:40] just that the impl is limited [09:41] here are the notes: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-update-manager-release-announcements/ [09:42] lol [09:42] JontheEchidna: the first 3 paras are *exactly* what is solved by the existing l10n technologies [09:45] blast and damn [09:45] double sessions twice today [09:45] I'm missing so much! [09:47] ScottK: would we actually want that? [09:49] I would have to be convinced. [09:52] udslogger: pretty much it is the desktop/marketing teams' excuse to pimp out the release notes [09:52] * JontheEchidna is in tas now [09:54] I'm going there, but break is now, right? [09:56] rbelem: persia suggests you should attend the kernel verion and flavors session in krudy [09:56] since we might need a new kernel for tablets, if we get a device that is [09:56] if someone sees him plz fwd ^ === hunger_ is now known as hunger [09:58] JontheEchidna: Docs stuff is in Tas? [09:58] Quintasan: yup [09:58] omw [10:00] I am now saying it is exactly 11:00 [10:00] valorie, DarkwingDuck^ [10:01] Yup... it was good. Almost no lag [10:01] nice [10:05] danke darling [10:41] Riddell: /win 26 [10:42] BAH [11:14] have a good lunch :) [11:50] udslogger: for your interest: bug 780971 [11:50] Launchpad bug 780971 in kdeedu (Ubuntu Oneiric) "openbabel (main) should not b-d on wxwidgets (universe)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780971 [11:55] jussi: ping [11:56] ScottK: please approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-lightdm [11:57] Riddell: Done [12:02] ScottK: I just got a mail from you about putting names forward for kubuntu-members. Can I put my name forward? [12:02] You have to be a kubuntu-member. [12:03] c2tarun: we are voting for council members and to vote you have to be a kubuntu member [12:03] ohh... (sorry I misunderstood) [12:07] jussi: go to lobby for voucher [12:07] Quintasan: kubuntu_17_enable_qtwebkit_for_qtassistant.diff shouldn't go upstream [12:07] jussi: or meet me at lunch [12:08] debfx: ddenis told us otherwise [12:08] ask him not me [12:08] im just pushing tem upstream [12:08] Quintasan: they certainly won't accept it [12:09] idont think i pushed it [12:12] you added "keep it and propose upstream" to the whiteboard [12:13] I'm not sure about kubuntu_29_egl_qglcontext_stubs.diff, afaik adding virtual functions is BIC [12:56] Riddell_: light dm is on the schedule now. === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Work! | Merges https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | Oneiric open for development | UDS: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O | Council elections: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-May/005170.html [13:02] claydoh: Can you make some kind of annoucement about KC elections (see /topic) on Kubuntu Forums? [13:03] It would also be nice if someone with ops in #kubuntu added something there too. [13:17] ksmanis: kcm-grub2 is going to extragear? [13:18] ulysses: it's being reviewed atm [13:18] I'm doing the Hungarian translation right now [13:19] good [13:20] kcm-grub2 was updated today in Kubuntu 11.10, so I can see my translations to work [13:21] seaLne: you've used the alternate CD before, if you have an opinion on if it should still exist there's a session in 40 minutes [13:23] ulysses: btw there is already a hungarian translation [13:23] by the hungarian kde translation team [13:26] I am the hungarian translation team ;) [13:26] hah [13:26] great [13:26] jussi: PING [13:27] Quintasan: what? [13:27] jussi: Where are you? [13:27] plenary? [13:27] jussi: raise your hand [13:27] no. [13:27] lol [13:27] center, slightly left of the horizontal aisle [13:28] why do you need me? [13:28] where are you? [13:28] jussi: next to last exit on the back of the room [13:28] Riddell_: currently i don't think you can do encrypted disks with the live cd? [13:28] jussi: I want to give you voucher before I lose it [13:28] Quintasan: did I win anything yet? [13:29] oh [13:29] and where do I get le voucher? [13:29] oh [13:29] jussi: poke udslogger to get his too because he was too lazy [13:29] oh [13:29] and where is emmit [13:29] oh [13:29] and where is denis? [13:29] udslogger: Go to confenrence desk ie. where ladies are giving out Qt stickers [13:29] im 2 exits in front of you [13:29] Riddell_: but yeah my uses apart from encrypted disks would probably be limited these days [13:30] * udslogger needs coffee as he has le spellling issu0r [13:30] Quintasan: meh. I am downstairs [13:30] jussi can pick it up :P [13:30] udslogger: get voucher for jussi [13:30] Quintasan: did i win anything yet? [13:31] I either missed announcement or they are going to announce it at the end [13:31] zomg that is evil [13:32] if the talks where even interesting and stuff [13:33] udslogger: For denis, #qt-labs [13:33] ddenis :P [13:35] seaLne: what else did you need it for? [13:35] LVM? [13:37] udslogger: ohshi- [13:37] udslogger: the prizes were for Linaro guys, not for us :S [13:37] lolwut? [13:37] terribly eval [13:39] Riddell_: yeah basically any non plain disk management stuff [13:39] Riddell_: in the past it was also the only way if you had a proxy [13:53] I got this error while compiling telepathy-chat-handler. http://paste.kde.org/62815/ can anyone please help [14:13] DarkwingDuck: council! [14:20] udslogger: thanks for the vote of confidence. [15:01] seaLne: a session this week was on adding LVM support to the Live installer. which apparently i will need to figure out how to do because i said "yes" when asked to be kubuntu-installer-person this time [15:01] (ohgodsohgods) === cmagina is now known as cmagina-uds [15:26] hi distro people, does this sound like an ok solution to enable accessibility on the fly? https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/ATK2011/Agenda/EnablingAccessibilityProposal [15:27] names and details are up for debate of course [15:27] maco: will encrypted support also be added? [15:46] udslogger: ubiquity is all pyth0rn right? [15:46] shadeslayer: yes [15:47] how did the alternate session go? [15:47] alternate is le dead [15:48] udslogger: soon it's Randa time, you know what that means, right? [15:48] fluff!!!! [15:48] omg!!! :D [15:48] k, I'm not much of a d-i fan anyway, except that ubiquity is still lacking stuff [15:48] fregl: somehow that topic creeps up once a day here :P [15:49] JontheEchidna: ok, i [15:49] erm [15:49] also plasma-netbook is crapz because it does not apply fluffy theme for some reason [15:49] udslogger: poor you [15:49] yeah [15:49] JontheEchidna: i'm thinking of working on the networkmanager stuff for the Kubuntu Ubiquity installer [15:49] udslogger: poke ddenis from me [15:49] I shall do so [15:49] fregl: did you see our kubuntu unity prototype? [15:50] udslogger: no, didn't really [15:50] zomg [15:50] too bad these events are all at the same time [15:50] but gnome+mozilla accessibility people are cool [15:50] fregl: he leaked them KDinty pics [15:50] fregl: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/11/plasma-desktopgp1838.jpg [15:51] could someone who sees apachelogger around uds make sure that he talks to j1mc? (the docs guy)? [15:51] haha [15:51] j1mc: where are you? [15:51] been looking for you all day [15:51] our sessions overlapped today, and i didn't get to see the kubuntu docs thing [15:51] actually I have a session in a bit [15:51] udslogger: i'm in the IRC council mtg [15:52] j1mc: do you have time after sessions? [15:52] yes, when would you like to meet up? [15:52] any time you want, I do not need dinner ^^ [15:52] :) [15:53] * j1mc looks at my schedule [15:54] udslogger: i'll join your next session, and we can talk afterwards [15:55] j1mc: okies, awesome [16:07] !search glibconfig.h [16:07] Found: [16:07] !find glibconfig.h [16:07] File glibconfig.h found in ats-lang-anairiats, libglib2.0-dev [16:11] * j1mc waves at udslogger [16:21] seaLne: that's a pretty common reason to use LVM, so i would imagine so [16:23] udslogger: i have to write up some stuff, so will be down in the non-smoking section of the lobby. [16:23] j1mc: ok [16:29] weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/63127/ [16:51] Riddell: are they looking for a program to teach Xhosa? maybe Parley? [16:52] I've no idea [16:54] nice [16:54] who wouldn't want their daily dosis of xhosa [17:12] jtechidna: i just talked to the guys who wrote plasma kparts and they said it should be possible [17:13] ( embedding KNM KParts in the installer ) [17:14] cool === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [20:27] rbelem: Quintasan aRRRRRm rum rum rum [20:27] udslogger: rum? [20:41] rbelem: udslogger Quintasan rum? [21:17] shadeslayer: btw, with delay, but I did a bit of kdepim testing. Both versions seem to work fine, but you don't have the same opinion what files are supposed to go where: [21:17] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4%3a4.5.95-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack): [21:17] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/korg-journal.png', which is also in package kjots 4:4.5.95-0ubuntu0~ppa1 [22:09] active === ncc1701 is now known as seawoal === seawoal is now known as seawolf [22:24] anyone working on plasma-active pkgs or had a look how much work it would be? [22:27] don't think so, esp. since most folks are at UDS this week [22:27] iirc there was some talk about it though [22:29] yofel: ok, thx! === yofel_ is now known as yofel