[00:03] Looks like I didn't get lucky; my computer says the USB drive isn't bootable [00:06] I don't know Salvatos [00:07] Would Ubuntu's disk creator normally work or did I miss a step? [00:07] I don't know what you've tried so far, nor do I have real time to get into your problem. It's 1 AM here, so you understand I hope? [00:08] Of course [00:08] I've had issues with Ubuntu's disk creater before [00:09] Maybe I could try with UNetbootin [00:10] On Windows it works perfectly :) [00:10] Using UNet? [00:13] Yup, unetbootin on Windows works perfect [00:14] Okay, well I just ran it under Ubuntu, the USB does look a bit different [00:14] I'll try that and if it still fails, wil try reformatting it and preparing it under Windows [00:14] Alright, good sign I think [00:14] Thanks for the help [00:14] Your welcome [00:14] Good night [00:15] You too === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [03:23] Hey folks! [03:25] Anyone up and about? [03:27] affirmative [03:27] elloz [03:28] I'm just trying the new livecd of the 64 bit version and was wondering if Lubuntu is supposed to support broadcom out of the box? [03:28] not usually [03:28] Ok, thanks [03:28] you need to run the additional drivers [03:29] Yes, but they don't work off of the download, correct? [03:30] hmmm not sure if there is a local repo but give it a shot [03:30] when you click on the network icon does it say firmware missing? [03:31] Well, didn't work without a lot of effort for me. Deal breaker on my particular setup. [03:31] keithclark, i did not lubuntu had a 64 bit version thought they only had a 32 bit version [03:31] cpatrick008, new and unsupported at the moment. [03:31] Just providing feeback [03:32] keithclark, can i have a link to the 64 bit version [03:32] cpatrick008: You should use the torrent! [03:32] I am currently seeding it on another machine. [03:32] I cannot remember the address [03:32] Unit193, do you know it? [03:33] keithclark: Sadly it's on OMGUbuntu (It's not even had full beta testing) [03:33] ok i will look there [03:33] There you go. [03:34] hey, I'm just testing it and providing feedback. [03:35] ok i found it hhttp://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b29819701aedf1470ee098112fb2003eb881da25 [03:35] I cannot remember if 32 bit Lubuntu supports broadcom out of the box though [03:35] cpatrick008, yup, my machine will be helping there [03:36] cant wait to try lubuntu currently running xubuntu [03:37] Actually I have to try xubuntu [03:37] Both Natty versions are nice! [03:37] Does it work with broadcom out of the box? [03:37] I just recently got lubuntu to work in a vbox and am trying now to figure out how to get/modify code [03:38] I've never been in a project as large as Lubuntu so I'm pretty new to it but am looking forward to giving it a shoot :) [03:38] broadcom not usually supported ootb as the firmware is needed === brobo|hw is now known as brobo [03:39] Is there any buntu that supports broadcom? [03:40] hmmm - I think elementary might if it's a newer card [03:40] Nope, older [03:41] keithclark: Which broadcomm chip? [03:41] you should a intel wireless card it works out of the box [03:41] I forget now. 4318? [03:41] you can give it a try - it works ootb on one of my broadcom cards but not the other [03:42] You can probably use the b43-fwcutter to handle that one. sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter [03:42] * KM0201 has good luck w/ atheros cards [03:43] some cards dont' use b43, they use sta. [03:43] jmarsden, I'm on a wireless machine [03:43] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [03:43] jmarsden I don't think he has another network connection [03:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA%20-%20No%20Internet%20access [03:43] that is how to do it with no internet access [03:44] keithclark: Download the .deb for b43-fwcutter using windows, stick it on a USB stick, sudo dpkg -i it, ... usual approach... right? [03:44] keithclark if your card works with sta then elementary will work ootb [03:44] cpatrick008: depends on the device, if it uses b43, you have to download the firmware manually, STA doesn't require b43 firmware.. so it really depends on which broadcom he has (not all of themw orkw / STA) [03:44] jmarsden, windows? [03:45] Or some otehr OS that works with your network hardware... [03:45] keithclark: if you can wire to your router/connection temporarily, that works also., [03:45] here is b43 instructions with no Internet access https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access [03:45] keithclark: You are online now, so you clearly have some form of internet capability in some OS or other :) [03:45] lol [03:45] KM0201, yeah, not possible at the moment. I'll try later, thanks guys [03:46] yw [03:46] keithclark: just look at that link i gave you... it helps you find which card you have, and tells you which driver you need [03:46] and then goes through the installation procedure [03:46] keithclark you are online using linux now lol [03:47] wiz, yes, on at another location [03:47] kernel 2.6.38-8 [03:47] ahhh okay [03:47] wiz, not always as simple as you think [03:48] hmmm it is, once you figure the answer lol [03:59] any devs around? [04:01] jonathan__: Ask your question, I might help ... dev who know about what specifically?? :) [04:02] does anybody know if LXMusic supports ipod syncing [04:02] I signed up for the team and want to help out but I need to learn how to do packaging etc. [04:03] jonathan__: Have you read and understood the Ubuntu Packaging Guide ? It is a good starting point for learning packaging... :) [04:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete [04:05] do I need to know programming? [04:05] Knowing some scripting helps, but is not always 100% needed. [04:06] jonathan__: Maybe start at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted [04:06] looks like I have some practicing to do [04:06] or for an Lubuntu-specific place to see how to contribute, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved === head_v is now known as head_victim [04:08] are we just trying to fix problematic packages? [04:09] jonathan__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO [04:09] jonathan__: Seems to me you have not spent much time on the Lubuntu wiki pages yet? it might be a good place to do some reading :) [04:10] that reminds me [04:10] we're supposed to create our own page? [04:10] does anybody know if LXMusic supports ipod syncing [04:10] I'm pretty confused at the moment because I've never developed anything before [04:17] jonathan__: Decide what you want to do, then you have a chance of learning enough to do it... :) writing a web page or wiki page is not "developing" in the usual software sense of the term. [04:17] I think it was requested when we signed up [04:18] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiCourse if you need something to help with that [04:18] It is conventional for most people working on Lubuntu to have a wiki page, yes. [04:19] But the amount of work needed for that compared to learning packaging from zero ... is tiny :) [04:19] hehe [04:19] Do, decide what you want to do, then do it :) [04:19] s/Do,/So,/ [04:19] I guess it doesn't matter since I don't know much yet [04:19] you guys are really helpful [04:19] Good :) [04:23] Where would one setup keyboard shortcuts ?? [04:27] you have to edit your ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml [04:28] here's a gui tool if you want it http://code.google.com/p/obkey/ [04:30] no the rc.xml works ty 4 the response [04:30] np [04:55] about 7 hours of seeding and my amd64 ratio is 52 [05:07] Ok, So I want to have a pure Lubuntu install without gnome, unity or xubuntu. what is the easiest way? [05:07] what's the starting point? [05:07] Starting point was a Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 install [05:08] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde [05:09] if that removes lubuntu packages, then you can install lubuntu-desktop again and it will fetch them [05:09] !next [05:09] ;D [05:10] Heh. Everytime I've tried to use that method, I've managed to break the system to the point of a reinstall [05:12] how so [05:12] works like a charm! [05:13] jgould: That's on your Mac? [05:13] Yeah [05:41] i am running the 64 bit lubuntu from usb and i love it better than xfce === ubuntu is now known as cpatrick008 [06:06] what's your mem usage cpatrick008 ? [06:08] 1109mb of 3952mb used and i am running xchat taskmanager the installer and chromium [06:08] but it went down to 1082 [06:12] seidos, it is 992mb of 3952mb with the installer and task manager and xchat running [06:24] hmmm, i wonder if that was +/- buffers and cache :|, seems kind of high [07:29] seidos: I regularly use around 1gb of ram on my machine === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [09:22] what is this annoying thing whenever i start my system http://maketecheasier.com/auto-unlock-keyring-manager-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2009/03/14 , i even tick the Automatically unlock keyring but on next boot this annoying dialogue appears again. === Lub is now known as Guest27615 [09:41] free users, pls comment here asking him to add Lubuntu icon for his WP plugin http://kyleabaker.com/goodies/coding/wp-useragent/ [10:58] gilir: about the update to the release notes, would it be worth putting in some sort of indication what hdd space is minimal? [10:58] It's just a common question in here that I've noticed is all. [11:05] head_victim: I'm not sure of the real disk space needed, between 3 and 3,5 Gb [11:10] gilir: fair enough, might be something for me to test when I get my VMs back up and running [12:16] hi, i'm new. I want to know wheather we can install and run kde and gnome software in lubuntu? [12:18] anything will install and run but the dependencies needed may me quite a few in some cases [12:19] is there any specific software you had in mind skumara [12:20] wiz evolution, banshee, screenlet [12:20] yes they will run - evolution is quite heavy [12:21] ok thank you wiz. i'm downloading lubuntu now [12:21] yw [12:54] I cannot find out what I should do if I want lubuntu not to ask password when I log in. How can I do it? From"Users and Groups" option seems not to work. [13:42] HOw do I get the Lock Desktop feature in Lubuntu? I do not seit in the standard Applets. [13:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ [13:43] there's second last [15:00] :O you guys got official? Congrats!! [15:11] hi [15:11] hi [15:28] hi there [15:29] just discovered lubuntu via hacker news -> http://digitizor.com/2011/05/12/ubuntu-11-10-lightdm/ [15:29] then I went to lxde.org (the official lxde website) [15:29] and what??? [15:30] domain expired [15:30] on May 2 [15:32] vanni_: must be a co-incident [15:32] seems strange to me [15:32] vanni_: you can also ask here, if you want to learn more about lxde [15:32] thx, not a newbie :P [15:33] only there to say the lxrt domain fact [15:33] yeah its strange, but not unusual [15:34] *lxde [15:34] ah ok someone does not pay the bills? [15:34] :) [15:34] heh yeah that's usually what happens [15:34] someone forgets [15:34] ok then [15:35] also, that's when you first heard of Lubuntu? :) [15:36] there an article on HN front page about GDM -> LightDM switch on Ubuntu 11.10 [15:36] it says Lubuntu will adopt LightDM too [15:37] heh [15:37] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-made-official-ubuntu-derivative/ [15:37] it was probably listed because of that <3 good things happening already! [15:37] then I went to official Lubuntu site and then to lxde.org (linked there) [15:38] heh [15:38] and then "Mark Shuttleworth says "Thank you" to lubuntu community" [15:38] oh, I said... good thing! [15:39] but... domain expired on lxde.org on which is based Lubuntu... [15:39] I had a bad feeling about this [15:39] ?? [15:40] hm, May 2? that is weird [15:40] How can be Lubuntu an official Ubuntu derivative if the main component website is offline? [15:40] well, it's just a domain [15:40] I'm sure the site is still up [15:40] I see an ad landing page [15:41] yeah the domain name expired [15:41] I dunno the IP though :P [15:41] :) [15:42] ok then, I have to go... good luck for the project! ;) [15:42] seeya [15:42] bye [16:00] got the 64-bit iso :D [16:21] :) [16:27] hi nk :- [16:27] damn [16:57] :D I't exists! [16:57] welcome to the awesome [16:58] so I run xubuntu and i want to try lxde, should i >sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends as MK` said to me? :P [16:58] ok, here it goes, >YES [16:58] lol [17:03] To those worried about lxde.org -- all the LXDE codebase is in git on other servers, which remain accessible. Do not panic :) [17:05] Yeah, I figured the domain just expired [17:05] * WiZ isn't panicking :P [17:07] hi everyone [17:08] on lxde hotkeys configuration, for what stands the "S" button? [17:09] AAAAAAAAAA IT WANTS TO CHANGE MY SESSION MANAGER [17:09] ups caplocks [17:10] so i just leave gdm? or i change it to lxdm? [17:12] Soupermanito: you can always change it again later [17:12] I'm quitting firefox. This means I'm also quitting fireftp. What's the best replacement? Filezilla doesn't allow me to edit the files live so well as fireftp did; I've got to save it, then close it for the changes to take effect [17:12] xuzas: maybe Super? [17:13] if not shift [17:13] i thought it was shift. but neither shift nor super [17:14] probably not Scroll Lock or SysRq :P [17:15] i just want to create this keybind:: Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Right [17:15] how should i do? [17:15] what your combination does? [17:16] gilir: are you on the box with the isos I wanted? :D [17:16] MK`, UDS still continues [17:16] Oh, yeah [17:16] Forgot [17:17] xuzas, yes? what that key combination should do [17:19] sending a window to the desktop situated on the right [17:20] it's binded already [17:20] alt+shift + arrow [17:20] :----) [17:21] easier to drop ctrl off [17:21] oh! yes, you're right. thank's, bioterror! [17:21] np [17:21] i searched in the config file but nothing :Sç [17:21] more about bindings, check ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml [17:22] there's where i tryed to change it [17:22] putting »S-C-A-Right« [17:25] maybe it doesen't support keybindigs longer than 3 keys? [17:27] I dunno, no reason to use ctrl-shift-alt as alt+shift is easier to press [17:27] :D it works, is nice, D: It uses chromium... [17:27] or ctrl+alt [17:28] i think alt+shift is openbox default [17:30] yes, i think it's better so [17:31] don't know why they put ctrl+alt+shift+right by default :S [17:32] in gnome* [17:32] becouse gnome [17:34] xuzas: it maybe your keyboard isn't recognizing too many keypresses? [17:34] -it [17:34] that's not the point [17:34] I can press z+x+right but not z+x+left :D [17:38] MK`, you need keytronic 2000! [17:39] szczur, do you agree with me? [17:39] :o? [17:39] http://www.virtualmicro.com/images/product_images/keytronic-kbd-kt800.gif .D [17:40] http://a.imagehost.org/0665/KT2001.png [17:40] agree with what? [17:40] :P [17:40] This is just a laptop keyboard is why [17:41] you sent two images of keyboard :P [17:41] szczur, that keytronic keyboards are awesome [17:41] you can press half of the keys and it recognizes them [17:41] yup, that's right :) [17:41] when I cannot even press 3 keys at once it renders me mostly unable to game on here D: [17:41] good for playing Slicks n Slide :D [17:42] but it reminds me the time of DIN connector etc. :) [17:42] but i have keyboard like this, connected right now [17:43] hello, guys, is lxdm themable? [17:43] sure [17:43] cool, thx [17:44] change background and so on [18:02] Is there a text editor with built in ftp anyone can recommend? [18:04] the only thing that i can think of is emacs, but i need about 20 more times trying to use it to be able to tell you if that functionality is already in it craigbass1976 [18:05] seidos, I really wish the notepad++ guy would port it to linux... [18:05] wine it [18:07] just use gmate. notepad++ [18:07] * jrgifford hit enter too soon [18:08] notepad++ isn't that great (IMHO) [18:09] what is notepad++? [18:10] notepad++ is a plaintext editor for windows. [18:10] http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ [18:11] but it had ftp... I just switched from FF to Chromium, and I'm missing fireftp. It did what I wanted. Filezilla and gftp keep asking me about saving, and that's only after I shut Geany down. I'd like ot hit save in Geany (after opening the file in the first place live in the ftp client) and have it save the file to the server right then [18:12] when i do ftp, i generally fire up filezilla. [18:12] however, that's rare, because i just do a git push heroku. :P [18:12] jrgifford, that's giving me the same trouble. Have you found a way around it? [18:12] git push heroku... sounds dirty [18:13] craigbass1976, nope. [18:13] too bad you can't use scp, or some simple cli tool [18:13] to just push the file up [18:14] I could scp, I'd just rather do it in one step, from the text editor. With fireftp, I could also edit jpg with gimp on the fly... [18:16] i wish i could help. maybe the geany guys could. they might be interested in the feature you are talking about [18:19] notepad++ is fantastic [18:19] I really do hope they port it [18:22] just tryed it jrgifford and it works perfectly whit wine [18:22] :D [18:22] :) [18:22] i might give it a go. i never really tried it. [18:30] ewww. . . notepad++ looks ugly in openbox gnomes session. :P [18:39] jrgifford, basic windows application [18:39] jrgifford, ofcourse it looks fugly ;) [18:40] They need a linux version of N++ ;) [18:42] paint.net is higher priority [18:42] Unit193, http://tclpad.sourceforge.net/ [18:43] bioterror, agreed. of course it's ugly. ;) [18:44] Unit193, does that satisfy you? :D [18:45] bioterror: Not really? I'll just use Scite (or use it in wine...) [18:46] nano is okay [18:46] as you can teach different languages and configs for it [18:46] vim is better than nano. :P [18:46] I can deal with vi, but somehow it's not my piece of cake [18:47] nano is sweet (That's the one I use most) [18:47] same here [18:47] yeah, I know a far amount of people that can use vi(m), but don't because it's not their thing. editors are a touchy subject. [18:47] And if you HAVE to use win, there is a version for it :D [18:48] I've used pico/nano since 1998 [18:48] and it works :) [18:48] guys, does lubuntu use libnotify? and are these popups as customizable as in xfce? [18:48] einseenai, dpkg -l libnotify [18:49] sorry [18:49] dpkg -l |grep libnotify [18:49] dpkg -L libnotify1 [18:50] bioterror, is it kinda conf file? in xfce it's possible to place notification in different corners of screen and they r themable [18:52] einseenai, try command notification-properties [18:55] hi kille ;) [18:56] hi === kille is now known as kill3 [19:04] bioterror, thx :-) i first need to install lubuntu to check out. i just wanted to know the level of customizability before i switch to lubuntu. [19:05] is there a wubi for lubuntu? [19:06] tehcnically I hope not [19:06] but there's some exe -files in amd64 at least [19:06] because I have a lubuntu cd, and it never fully loads [19:06] and the laptop is so old it has no burner [19:07] LOL [19:07] hmm [19:07] you dont have friends with cd-rw -drive? [19:07] yeah, thats where I just burnt the cd the other day [19:12] Lostmonk: Does the laptop support booting from USB? [19:16] nope [19:16] its an old p3 [19:20] Lostmonk: is the cd-drive working so far that it lets you get to the boot menu ? [19:20] yes [19:21] then your laptop is able to boot from usb [19:21] just create a usb stick with unetbootin [19:21] put it in your usb slot [19:22] boot from cd until boot screen shows up , remove quiet & splash from boot options and press enter. Wait until kernel and initrd are loaded and remove cd [19:22] it should then boot further on from usb [19:23] it will automatically search for the usb? [19:23] yes [19:23] it will search all drives technically speaking for the filesystem.squashfs [19:23] is there a least sys req for lubuntu? [19:24] so basically you can also put the filesystem.squashfs onto the hd and it will boot from there [19:24] its a p3 withh like 256m ram [19:24] that should run lubuntu, right? [19:24] yes [19:24] pretty well :) [19:24] thought so [19:26] ah the fileystem.squashfs needs to be in the casper directory. So if you are really thinking to put it on the harddisk don't forget to put it into this directory [19:26] kk === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [20:08] hmmm [20:08] about 24 hours of seeding Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso and ratio is 94.5 [20:09] not bad [20:11] 94.5? =-O [20:12] yeah [20:12] Hmmm...linuxtracker does a better job at uploading it seems... [20:12] About 10x the speed of publicbt :P [20:13] that's where I've been seeding [20:13] I've set my upload to 350kb/s [20:13] bioterror; I've set it to unlimited... [20:13] I like to have steady bandwith [20:14] But it's going at ~50 KiB/s === LAcan__ is now known as LAcan === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === wiZZZZZZone is now known as wizonesolutions === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [23:03] hi there! [23:03] what's the default keybind for screenlock? [23:03] Thu15:43* https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ [23:04] I just searched that line ;) [23:04] was it second last section or something [23:34] i don't get this keybind to work. did you do? [23:35] xuzas, I dont use it [23:35] but many people has ;) [23:35] xuzas, windows + l should lock your screen [23:35] but it doesnt [23:35] xuzas, try command openbox --reconfigure [23:35] it reloads your configs [23:41] it doesn't === zweiundvierzig is now known as Wachert