[06:05] <nlsthzn> night all
[07:32] <xnixan> morning, bassem nlsthzn Toki :)
[07:32] <bassem> xnixan,
[07:32] <bassem> xnixan, Toki has Omar's number!
[07:44] <Toki> Morning, bassem, what's up?
[07:44] <bassem> Toki, hi Toki
[07:44] <bassem> xnixan,
[08:04] <xnixan> bassem, yep!
[08:04] <bassem> xnixan, Toki is here
[08:04] <Toki> What's up?
[08:05] <xnixan> Toki, i need Omar's number!
[08:05] <Toki> Why?
[08:05] <Toki> 0506326222
[08:05] <xnixan> Toki, for sponsoring the group!
[08:06] <Toki> Note that it's his policy to not pick up the call if it's inconvinient.
[08:06] <xnixan> Toki, i was having it before but i lost my mobile :(
[08:06] <Toki> However, he will reply when he feels he can.
[08:06] <xnixan> Toki, thanks!
[10:19] <Miriup> Tihi. Another UAE Linux community with an IRC channel on freenode. Pretty cool. Maybe I show up on the meeting in June.
[13:31] <bassem> Miriup, hello
[13:31] <bassem> nlsthzn, !!!
[13:34] <Miriup> Hi bassem! Nice to see an active Linux community in the Emirates again. And also nice to see a meet-up location in my vacinity (Mirdif). ;)
[13:35] <bassem> Miriup, you said "another" community !!!
[13:36] <Miriup> Well, you most be the only one by now. ;)
[13:37] <bassem> Miriup, the only one alive maybe!
[13:38] <Miriup> The #dubailug has a channel here as well. But for at least two years the only regulars are from the Linux DVB project and AFAIK none of them is in the Emirates.
[13:38] <Miriup> That lug also shows occasionally the willingness to meet, but it doesn't happen. A lot of guys also left with the big crash.
[13:39] <Miriup> I've seen a lot of familiar names on the meet-up site for your group. :)
[13:39] <bassem> Miriup, oh yeah! now I remember, there's another linux room "Linux DVB"
[13:40] <Miriup> But what's really cool is that you have an IRC channel. It keeps the social aspect much more alive than a mailinglist or monthly meetings.
[13:40] <Miriup> IMHO at least.
[13:40] <bassem> Miriup, you are there #dubailug !
[13:41] <Miriup> Yes, at least one guy from .ae has to show up there every once in a while, no?! ;)
[13:41] <bassem> Miriup, yeah, IRC channel came after the monthly meetings
[13:43] <bassem> Miriup, are you in Dubai?
[13:43] <Miriup> Yep.
[13:43] <bassem> Miriup, cool! and how you find us?
[13:44] <Miriup> There was a discussion on the old uaelug list about you guys doing meetings, which I stumbled over when I cleaned my inbox.
[14:24] <nlsthzn> bassem: You where looking for me?
[14:31] <bassem> nlsthzn, maybe!
[14:40] <nlsthzn> bassem: well when u finally make up your mind I might still be here
[14:41] <bassem> nlsthzn, ok
[14:46] <nlsthzn> k, cheers for now
[17:51]  * nlsthzn waves
=== nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work
[20:38] <nlsthzn-work> Toki: Ping
[20:40] <Toki> nlsthzn-work: Ping back.
[20:41] <nlsthzn-work> Toki: You are up on-line late tonight?
[20:42] <Toki> nlsthzn-work: Home alone.
[20:43] <nlsthzn-work> Toki: Ah... so when the cats are away... :)
[20:44] <Toki> nlsthzn-work: Not familiar with the saying, but I guess that's how it is.
[20:44] <Toki> mlNot familiar with the saying, but I guess that's how it is.
[20:45] <nlsthzn-work> Toki: :) The whole saying is when the cats are away, the mice will play ;)
[20:45] <nlsthzn-work> So enjoy playing
[20:45] <Toki> nlsthzn-work: Ah... :D
[20:47] <nlsthzn-work> :) ... Soon KDE 5 will be coming out using QT5... and also needing openGL acceleration, just like Unity and Gnome 3... I am seriously thinking about switching to a light weight DE... but not sure which one :/
[22:52] <Miriup> nlsthzn-work: QT5 is Nokia's?
[22:53] <nlsthzn-work> Miriup: Hi... I have no idea... was reading a blog from a developer about QT5 and KDE5... not sure who is in charge now
[22:54] <Miriup> I'm surprised to hear about KDE5, when PIM has issues since KDE4.5.
[22:55] <Miriup> But yes, they all want OpenGL. I think Apple has brought us into this. ;)
[22:56] <nlsthzn-work> Now you need a fairly powerful machine just for your OS, never mind any apps... nuts!
[22:57] <Miriup> Enlightenment used to be cool. Lots of work went into it and it's at the brink of being an DE. There's also some other minimalistic WM I hear about a lot lately, but I can't remember it's name right now. It reminded by a bit of XFCe.
[22:58] <nlsthzn-work> LXDE?
[22:58] <Miriup> Nope.
[23:00] <Miriup> Afterstep seems to remind me somehow of that name, but it cannot possibly be afterstep. ;)
[23:00] <nlsthzn-work> The light weight DE don't really do it for me at the moment... I don't need to run it on ancient hardware, just not on the latest and greatest :)
[23:00] <Miriup> So what are you needing the DE for then?
[23:01] <Miriup> What would you be missing?
[23:01] <nlsthzn-work> openbox or fluxbox perhaps then?
[23:01] <Miriup> Because you could still run OpenOffice in WM2 to bring up an extreme example. Openbox and fluxbox I don't know.
[23:02] <nlsthzn-work> I have a duel core lappy with intel graphics and 2gb ram... so CPU wise it runs anything, but can't handle KDE 4.6 with all the bells and whistles...
[23:02] <Miriup> Awesome was it!
[23:02] <Miriup> http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[23:05] <nlsthzn-work> never heard of it before
[23:05] <Miriup> Me neither. But I've been reading it a lot lately.
[23:06] <Miriup> But then again it might have something to do with what I do lately.
[23:06] <Miriup> ;)
[23:06] <nlsthzn-work> ... and that is?
[23:07] <Miriup> Just been wondering about that as well. But I can't pinpoint it.
[23:08] <nlsthzn-work> well... I hope I can make my mind up on a distro/DE soon... I am so tired of distro hopping now it is silly :)
[23:09] <Miriup> I know how that feels. Recently went back to KDE (4.6 over here) and I'm already unhappy again.
[23:09] <Miriup> I think amongst the big DE's it's only KDE and Gnome and Enlightenment.
[23:09] <Miriup> Everyone else eventually uses one of the sets of libraries of these three.
[23:11] <Miriup> A big chunk of what the DE drives is the toolkit. And there is really only GTK+, QT or the E*. Stuff like DBUS has is standardized by Freedesktop and thus the same.
[23:11] <nlsthzn-work> and both Gnome and KDE going to be re-written, so all apps will start changing too... now GTK3 and QT5
[23:12] <Miriup> Well if the change from QT3 to QT4 is a measure for the change to QT5 then you'll be needed to have both for a while. ;D
[23:13] <nlsthzn-work> :) apparently the change will be more subtle :)
[23:15] <Miriup> Probably there will be more Nokia logos spread throughout KDE.
[23:17] <nlsthzn-work> but nokia has given up on QT now haven't they?
[23:32] <Miriup> Dunno. They still own it. They're in a big phase of confusion at the moment.
[23:32] <Miriup> With the Microsoft guy at the top. If he still is, I haven't following it lately.
[23:33] <nlsthzn-work> I also don't know... just heard they dropped support for Meego etc. and left Intel being one of the only big companies still backing it...
[23:33] <Miriup> Anyways, will go back to the BG for now. The cats are away over here as well and that particular mouse over here is starting into a 36h hiking trip tomorrow. :D
[23:33] <Miriup> So... good night. :)
[23:33] <nlsthzn-work> Miriup: enjoy :)
[23:33] <nlsthzn-work> night