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bassowebjadmin: normaly when there are no updates there are no updates :)00:07
bassowebjadmin: but why do you ask me this?00:09
webjadminLol, I just added the xorg ppa.00:10
webjadminAnd I'm JackyAlcine;00:10
webjadminhold on.00:10
JackyAlcinebasso, I've added the xorg ppa; installed the packages and restarted Xorg; but to no avial00:24
JackyAlcineI did find an issue, though.00:24
bassoJackyAlcine: was the issue driver related or compiz related?00:25
JackyAlcineIt's compiz-related; it's looking for libraries in an odd place.00:25
JackyAlcine~/.compiz-1/plugins00:25
JackyAlcineAnd the folder 'plugins' didn't exist.00:25
AmaranthThat's not an issue00:26
* JackyAlcine is making the pastebin.00:27
JackyAlcinehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/606317/00:28
JackyAlcineAmaranth, why wouldn't it be if you mind me asking?00:29
JackyAlcineThe segfault probably is caused by it trying to call a method in the bailery library; that of which it couldn't find.00:29
AmaranthIt was told to load a plugin called "core", tried a few places, couldn't find it. No big deal, it just moves on.00:30
AmaranthFor the rest of the plugins it always checks ~/.compiz-1/plugins first in case you have a user copy you want to override the system one00:30
AmaranthDoesn't find them there, moves on to /usr/lib/compiz/00:30
JackyAlcineAh, hence the warning that the plugin's already active?00:31
AmaranthI would recommend cleaning out your compiz settings though, just to see if that fixes the issue00:31
AmaranthBut first dump them so we can see them if that fixes it00:31
JackyAlcineAlright.00:32
AmaranthIt's rather odd that it segfaults after loading dbus...00:32
AmaranthOr rather while loading dbus00:32
Amaranthhmm, actually it seems your configuration is rather screwed00:33
AmaranthYou're using the ini backend instead of gconf00:33
Amaranthmake a copy of your ~/.compiz-1 and ~/.config/compiz-1 (if they exist) then remove them00:33
JackyAlcineAh. okay.00:37
JackyAlcineI was going to show you the configuration now actually.00:37
JackyAlcinehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/606322/00:37
JackyAlcineWell, lol, I accidentally deleted all of the configuration settings; but it's no biggie.00:39
AmaranthI'm pretty sure a lot of those plugins conflict with each other00:39
Amaranthbut yeah, looks like it should be easy enough for you to tweak your settings back to how you like if that fixed it00:40
JackyAlcineWow, Amaranth, it worked (sorta).00:40
JackyAlcineWell, there's no window manager really00:40
JackyAlcineForget it; by opening the Appearance dialog; it appeared. :)00:41
JackyAlcineThanks so much Amaranth00:41
Amaranthno problem, will poke someone about the config file to see if we can figure out what blew up00:41
JackyAlcineThanks :D00:42
bassomy prayer worked00:53
bassohe got hep00:53
bassohelp*00:53
* basso is badass00:54
bassonow to pray for someone to fix the gnome-settings-daemon00:54
* basso starts prayer00:54
bassonow sleepy00:59
znfrazieranyone good with ftp servers?03:03
bcurtiswxcassidy, seems libpurple has removed QQ support, will telepathy be doing anything about that?08:29
bcurtiswxcassidy, http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/1319308:30
cassidybcurtiswx, gadu gadu ?08:31
bcurtiswxcassidy, i'm not very familiar with QQ myself so gadu gadu is another implementation?08:31
cassidyoh no that's another protocol08:32
cassidyunless someone starts a Telepathy connection manager for it, we won't be able to do much08:32
chrisccoulsonseb128 - have you seen andreas this morning?08:33
seb128chrisccoulson, no08:33
bcurtiswxcassidy, hmm.  So any future QQ bugs in empathy I get should probably be closed?08:33
cassidybcurtiswx, they should be telepathy-haze bug08:33
chrisccoulsonseb128 - thanks08:34
cassidyand haze can't do much if libpurple doesn't support it08:34
bcurtiswxcassidy, yes sorry I have a bad habit of using empathy when it's really a telepathy problem :X08:34
cassidybcurtiswx, in general, if a bug is protocol specific, there are good chances that's a TP bug08:34
bcurtiswxcassidy, i know this, I just need a shock collar to help me along ;)08:35
bcurtiswxcassidy, OK i'll close haze bugs with QQ and recommend someone make a telepathy QQ branch :) thx08:36
dpmpitti, seb128, could we have someone from desktop on krudy (06) for the lp translation imports session?09:07
seb128dpm, hum, is there any specific question for us?09:11
seb128do you need someone there or replying on IRC is fine?09:11
pittidpm: on my way, seems my meeting with jasoncwarner got cancelled anyway09:11
seb128pitti, thanks09:11
seb128(I'm in another session)09:11
dpmthanks pitti09:11
bcurtiswxrodrigo_, you see the recent advertising e-mail on the gnome3-team mailing list ?09:20
rodrigo_bcurtiswx, no, which one?09:20
* rodrigo_ looks09:20
bcurtiswxrodrigo_, vanillux09:21
bcurtiswxidk why but it seemed more of an attack e-mail than one asking for legitimate help09:21
rodrigo_hmm09:22
seb128what's wrong with it?09:23
seb128it's opensource they are free to do a distro09:23
bcurtiswxnothing wrong with the who new distro, just poorly written IMO09:24
bcurtiswxwhole*09:24
rodrigo_bcurtiswx, yes, seems to be a gnome remix v2.0 :)09:25
rodrigo_but nothing wrong with them doing it, if that's what they want, really09:25
rodrigo_would be better if they helped us packaging gnome309:25
bcurtiswxyeah,  if they want to do it thats all great. and that too..  :)09:25
rodrigo_well, it's not great, but maybe it's easier for us, than having to be discussing all day about everything :-)09:26
* rodrigo_ writes an answer09:27
cassidywhich mail is that? Are there people doing a ubuntu GNOME remix ?09:39
seb128cassidy, yes09:39
seb128cassidy, http://vanillux.org/09:39
seb128in fact09:39
seb128derivative distribution, good luck to them09:40
cassidyactually I would like a proper GNOME flavour of Ubuntu09:40
cassidywith an upstream GNOME desktop, etc09:40
seb128what difference would you get with GNOME in Ubuntu?09:40
seb128default theme?09:41
seb128with unity being its own desktop GNOME should go back to be closer from upstream desktop over time09:41
cassidyand ideally, unpatched app (libindicate, etc)09:41
seb128we will not patch gnome-shell09:41
seb128with unity2d we will probably unpatch gnome-panel09:41
cassidyah that's good09:42
cassidyisn't there a "relation with GNOME community" session this afternoon or something?09:42
seb128indicators are standalone sources for the most part and the things we patch will be moved over time to be proper indicators09:42
seb128yes there is one09:42
cassidycool, I'll try to attend over irc09:42
seb128great09:42
cassidyI don't really want to leave Ubuntu but if I can't have a proper GNOME experience I'll probably consider doing so09:43
cassidyso it would be good to try to not make this happen :)09:43
seb128cassidy, it's a 15h09:43
cassidycool, I'll be there09:43
cassidythere is a live stream, irc chan, etc ?09:44
seb128yes09:44
seb128live stream and irc09:44
seb128http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-12/ has the schedule09:44
seb128the irc channel will be #ubuntu-uds-lehar09:45
cassidyoki09:45
seb128cassidy, the streams are on http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/09:47
seb128ok, got to go, see you later09:48
cassidyyep09:48
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Cimipitti: rickspencer3: I have a visual update for the overlay scrollbar. fixes a hot bug, though it changes visuals... do I need to put it in natty-proposed or oneiric?11:56
rickspencer3do you have a bug link?11:57
Cimisure11:58
Cimirickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/77326311:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 773263 in overlay-scrollbar "scrolling doesn't work at the edge of the screen (fitts' law is broken)" [Undecided,In progress]11:58
Cimirickspencer3: there's a video too, it changes a lot (visually)11:59
rickspencer3that looks like an oneiric fix to me11:59
Cimirickspencer3: me too, I'd say let's open a natty PPA too12:00
Borrealhi12:17
Borrealis there someone inline?12:17
bassohello :D13:07
bassoHello again!13:40
bassoHello hello :D13:59
bassoHello! :314:32
tseliotpitti: are you available now?14:42
tseliotpitti: we're in kazinczy14:42
ricotzcyphermox, hi, did you get my message?18:06
bassoHello everyone :D18:20
bassoHello again!20:47
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bassoEven more hello!21:39
kklimondals22:10
bassoim in love with danish "gifflar"22:36

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