[00:07] webjadmin: normaly when there are no updates there are no updates :) [00:09] webjadmin: but why do you ask me this? [00:10] Lol, I just added the xorg ppa. [00:10] And I'm JackyAlcine; [00:10] hold on. [00:24] basso, I've added the xorg ppa; installed the packages and restarted Xorg; but to no avial [00:24] I did find an issue, though. [00:25] JackyAlcine: was the issue driver related or compiz related? [00:25] It's compiz-related; it's looking for libraries in an odd place. [00:25] ~/.compiz-1/plugins [00:25] And the folder 'plugins' didn't exist. [00:26] That's not an issue [00:27] * JackyAlcine is making the pastebin. [00:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/606317/ [00:29] Amaranth, why wouldn't it be if you mind me asking? [00:29] The segfault probably is caused by it trying to call a method in the bailery library; that of which it couldn't find. [00:30] It was told to load a plugin called "core", tried a few places, couldn't find it. No big deal, it just moves on. [00:30] For the rest of the plugins it always checks ~/.compiz-1/plugins first in case you have a user copy you want to override the system one [00:30] Doesn't find them there, moves on to /usr/lib/compiz/ [00:31] Ah, hence the warning that the plugin's already active? [00:31] I would recommend cleaning out your compiz settings though, just to see if that fixes the issue [00:31] But first dump them so we can see them if that fixes it [00:32] Alright. [00:32] It's rather odd that it segfaults after loading dbus... [00:32] Or rather while loading dbus [00:33] hmm, actually it seems your configuration is rather screwed [00:33] You're using the ini backend instead of gconf [00:33] make a copy of your ~/.compiz-1 and ~/.config/compiz-1 (if they exist) then remove them [00:37] Ah. okay. [00:37] I was going to show you the configuration now actually. [00:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/606322/ [00:39] Well, lol, I accidentally deleted all of the configuration settings; but it's no biggie. [00:39] I'm pretty sure a lot of those plugins conflict with each other [00:40] but yeah, looks like it should be easy enough for you to tweak your settings back to how you like if that fixed it [00:40] Wow, Amaranth, it worked (sorta). [00:40] Well, there's no window manager really [00:41] Forget it; by opening the Appearance dialog; it appeared. :) [00:41] Thanks so much Amaranth [00:41] no problem, will poke someone about the config file to see if we can figure out what blew up [00:42] Thanks :D [00:53] my prayer worked [00:53] he got hep [00:53] help* [00:54] * basso is badass [00:54] now to pray for someone to fix the gnome-settings-daemon [00:54] * basso starts prayer [00:59] now sleepy [03:03] anyone good with ftp servers? [08:29] cassidy, seems libpurple has removed QQ support, will telepathy be doing anything about that? [08:30] cassidy, http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/13193 [08:31] bcurtiswx, gadu gadu ? [08:31] cassidy, i'm not very familiar with QQ myself so gadu gadu is another implementation? [08:32] oh no that's another protocol [08:32] unless someone starts a Telepathy connection manager for it, we won't be able to do much [08:33] seb128 - have you seen andreas this morning? [08:33] chrisccoulson, no [08:33] cassidy, hmm. So any future QQ bugs in empathy I get should probably be closed? [08:33] bcurtiswx, they should be telepathy-haze bug [08:34] seb128 - thanks [08:34] and haze can't do much if libpurple doesn't support it [08:34] cassidy, yes sorry I have a bad habit of using empathy when it's really a telepathy problem :X [08:34] bcurtiswx, in general, if a bug is protocol specific, there are good chances that's a TP bug [08:35] cassidy, i know this, I just need a shock collar to help me along ;) [08:36] cassidy, OK i'll close haze bugs with QQ and recommend someone make a telepathy QQ branch :) thx [09:07] pitti, seb128, could we have someone from desktop on krudy (06) for the lp translation imports session? [09:11] dpm, hum, is there any specific question for us? [09:11] do you need someone there or replying on IRC is fine? [09:11] dpm: on my way, seems my meeting with jasoncwarner got cancelled anyway [09:11] pitti, thanks [09:11] (I'm in another session) [09:11] thanks pitti [09:20] rodrigo_, you see the recent advertising e-mail on the gnome3-team mailing list ? [09:20] bcurtiswx, no, which one? [09:20] * rodrigo_ looks [09:21] rodrigo_, vanillux [09:21] idk why but it seemed more of an attack e-mail than one asking for legitimate help [09:22] hmm [09:23] what's wrong with it? [09:23] it's opensource they are free to do a distro [09:24] nothing wrong with the who new distro, just poorly written IMO [09:24] whole* [09:25] bcurtiswx, yes, seems to be a gnome remix v2.0 :) [09:25] but nothing wrong with them doing it, if that's what they want, really [09:25] would be better if they helped us packaging gnome3 [09:25] yeah, if they want to do it thats all great. and that too.. :) [09:26] well, it's not great, but maybe it's easier for us, than having to be discussing all day about everything :-) [09:27] * rodrigo_ writes an answer [09:39] which mail is that? Are there people doing a ubuntu GNOME remix ? [09:39] cassidy, yes [09:39] cassidy, http://vanillux.org/ [09:39] in fact [09:40] derivative distribution, good luck to them [09:40] actually I would like a proper GNOME flavour of Ubuntu [09:40] with an upstream GNOME desktop, etc [09:40] what difference would you get with GNOME in Ubuntu? [09:41] default theme? [09:41] with unity being its own desktop GNOME should go back to be closer from upstream desktop over time [09:41] and ideally, unpatched app (libindicate, etc) [09:41] we will not patch gnome-shell [09:41] with unity2d we will probably unpatch gnome-panel [09:42] ah that's good [09:42] isn't there a "relation with GNOME community" session this afternoon or something? [09:42] indicators are standalone sources for the most part and the things we patch will be moved over time to be proper indicators [09:42] yes there is one [09:42] cool, I'll try to attend over irc [09:42] great [09:43] I don't really want to leave Ubuntu but if I can't have a proper GNOME experience I'll probably consider doing so [09:43] so it would be good to try to not make this happen :) [09:43] cassidy, it's a 15h [09:43] cool, I'll be there [09:44] there is a live stream, irc chan, etc ? [09:44] yes [09:44] live stream and irc [09:44] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-12/ has the schedule [09:45] the irc channel will be #ubuntu-uds-lehar [09:45] oki [09:47] cassidy, the streams are on http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/ [09:48] ok, got to go, see you later [09:48] yep === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [11:56] pitti: rickspencer3: I have a visual update for the overlay scrollbar. fixes a hot bug, though it changes visuals... do I need to put it in natty-proposed or oneiric? [11:57] do you have a bug link? [11:58] sure [11:58] rickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/773263 [11:58] Launchpad bug 773263 in overlay-scrollbar "scrolling doesn't work at the edge of the screen (fitts' law is broken)" [Undecided,In progress] [11:59] rickspencer3: there's a video too, it changes a lot (visually) [11:59] that looks like an oneiric fix to me [12:00] rickspencer3: me too, I'd say let's open a natty PPA too [12:17] hi [12:17] is there someone inline? 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