[00:07] <basso> webjadmin: normaly when there are no updates there are no updates :)
[00:09] <basso> webjadmin: but why do you ask me this?
[00:10] <webjadmin> Lol, I just added the xorg ppa.
[00:10] <webjadmin> And I'm JackyAlcine;
[00:10] <webjadmin> hold on.
[00:24] <JackyAlcine> basso, I've added the xorg ppa; installed the packages and restarted Xorg; but to no avial
[00:24] <JackyAlcine> I did find an issue, though.
[00:25] <basso> JackyAlcine: was the issue driver related or compiz related?
[00:25] <JackyAlcine> It's compiz-related; it's looking for libraries in an odd place.
[00:25] <JackyAlcine> ~/.compiz-1/plugins
[00:25] <JackyAlcine> And the folder 'plugins' didn't exist.
[00:26] <Amaranth> That's not an issue
[00:27]  * JackyAlcine is making the pastebin.
[00:28] <JackyAlcine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/606317/
[00:29] <JackyAlcine> Amaranth, why wouldn't it be if you mind me asking?
[00:29] <JackyAlcine> The segfault probably is caused by it trying to call a method in the bailery library; that of which it couldn't find.
[00:30] <Amaranth> It was told to load a plugin called "core", tried a few places, couldn't find it. No big deal, it just moves on.
[00:30] <Amaranth> For the rest of the plugins it always checks ~/.compiz-1/plugins first in case you have a user copy you want to override the system one
[00:30] <Amaranth> Doesn't find them there, moves on to /usr/lib/compiz/
[00:31] <JackyAlcine> Ah, hence the warning that the plugin's already active?
[00:31] <Amaranth> I would recommend cleaning out your compiz settings though, just to see if that fixes the issue
[00:31] <Amaranth> But first dump them so we can see them if that fixes it
[00:32] <JackyAlcine> Alright.
[00:32] <Amaranth> It's rather odd that it segfaults after loading dbus...
[00:32] <Amaranth> Or rather while loading dbus
[00:33] <Amaranth> hmm, actually it seems your configuration is rather screwed
[00:33] <Amaranth> You're using the ini backend instead of gconf
[00:33] <Amaranth> make a copy of your ~/.compiz-1 and ~/.config/compiz-1 (if they exist) then remove them
[00:37] <JackyAlcine> Ah. okay.
[00:37] <JackyAlcine> I was going to show you the configuration now actually.
[00:37] <JackyAlcine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/606322/
[00:39] <JackyAlcine> Well, lol, I accidentally deleted all of the configuration settings; but it's no biggie.
[00:39] <Amaranth> I'm pretty sure a lot of those plugins conflict with each other
[00:40] <Amaranth> but yeah, looks like it should be easy enough for you to tweak your settings back to how you like if that fixed it
[00:40] <JackyAlcine> Wow, Amaranth, it worked (sorta).
[00:40] <JackyAlcine> Well, there's no window manager really
[00:41] <JackyAlcine> Forget it; by opening the Appearance dialog; it appeared. :)
[00:41] <JackyAlcine> Thanks so much Amaranth
[00:41] <Amaranth> no problem, will poke someone about the config file to see if we can figure out what blew up
[00:42] <JackyAlcine> Thanks :D
[00:53] <basso> my prayer worked
[00:53] <basso> he got hep
[00:53] <basso> help*
[00:54]  * basso is badass
[00:54] <basso> now to pray for someone to fix the gnome-settings-daemon
[00:54]  * basso starts prayer
[00:59] <basso> now sleepy
[03:03] <znfrazier> anyone good with ftp servers?
[08:29] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, seems libpurple has removed QQ support, will telepathy be doing anything about that?
[08:30] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/13193
[08:31] <cassidy> bcurtiswx, gadu gadu ?
[08:31] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, i'm not very familiar with QQ myself so gadu gadu is another implementation?
[08:32] <cassidy> oh no that's another protocol
[08:32] <cassidy> unless someone starts a Telepathy connection manager for it, we won't be able to do much
[08:33] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - have you seen andreas this morning?
[08:33] <seb128> chrisccoulson, no
[08:33] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, hmm.  So any future QQ bugs in empathy I get should probably be closed?
[08:33] <cassidy> bcurtiswx, they should be telepathy-haze bug
[08:34] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - thanks
[08:34] <cassidy> and haze can't do much if libpurple doesn't support it
[08:34] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, yes sorry I have a bad habit of using empathy when it's really a telepathy problem :X
[08:34] <cassidy> bcurtiswx, in general, if a bug is protocol specific, there are good chances that's a TP bug
[08:35] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, i know this, I just need a shock collar to help me along ;)
[08:36] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, OK i'll close haze bugs with QQ and recommend someone make a telepathy QQ branch :) thx
[09:07] <dpm> pitti, seb128, could we have someone from desktop on krudy (06) for the lp translation imports session?
[09:11] <seb128> dpm, hum, is there any specific question for us?
[09:11] <seb128> do you need someone there or replying on IRC is fine?
[09:11] <pitti> dpm: on my way, seems my meeting with jasoncwarner got cancelled anyway
[09:11] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[09:11] <seb128> (I'm in another session)
[09:11] <dpm> thanks pitti
[09:20] <bcurtiswx> rodrigo_, you see the recent advertising e-mail on the gnome3-team mailing list ?
[09:20] <rodrigo_> bcurtiswx, no, which one?
[09:20]  * rodrigo_ looks
[09:21] <bcurtiswx> rodrigo_, vanillux
[09:21] <bcurtiswx> idk why but it seemed more of an attack e-mail than one asking for legitimate help
[09:22] <rodrigo_> hmm
[09:23] <seb128> what's wrong with it?
[09:23] <seb128> it's opensource they are free to do a distro
[09:24] <bcurtiswx> nothing wrong with the who new distro, just poorly written IMO
[09:24] <bcurtiswx> whole*
[09:25] <rodrigo_> bcurtiswx, yes, seems to be a gnome remix v2.0 :)
[09:25] <rodrigo_> but nothing wrong with them doing it, if that's what they want, really
[09:25] <rodrigo_> would be better if they helped us packaging gnome3
[09:25] <bcurtiswx> yeah,  if they want to do it thats all great. and that too..  :)
[09:26] <rodrigo_> well, it's not great, but maybe it's easier for us, than having to be discussing all day about everything :-)
[09:27]  * rodrigo_ writes an answer
[09:39] <cassidy> which mail is that? Are there people doing a ubuntu GNOME remix ?
[09:39] <seb128> cassidy, yes
[09:39] <seb128> cassidy, http://vanillux.org/
[09:39] <seb128> in fact
[09:40] <seb128> derivative distribution, good luck to them
[09:40] <cassidy> actually I would like a proper GNOME flavour of Ubuntu
[09:40] <cassidy> with an upstream GNOME desktop, etc
[09:40] <seb128> what difference would you get with GNOME in Ubuntu?
[09:41] <seb128> default theme?
[09:41] <seb128> with unity being its own desktop GNOME should go back to be closer from upstream desktop over time
[09:41] <cassidy> and ideally, unpatched app (libindicate, etc)
[09:41] <seb128> we will not patch gnome-shell
[09:41] <seb128> with unity2d we will probably unpatch gnome-panel
[09:42] <cassidy> ah that's good
[09:42] <cassidy> isn't there a "relation with GNOME community" session this afternoon or something?
[09:42] <seb128> indicators are standalone sources for the most part and the things we patch will be moved over time to be proper indicators
[09:42] <seb128> yes there is one
[09:42] <cassidy> cool, I'll try to attend over irc
[09:42] <seb128> great
[09:43] <cassidy> I don't really want to leave Ubuntu but if I can't have a proper GNOME experience I'll probably consider doing so
[09:43] <cassidy> so it would be good to try to not make this happen :)
[09:43] <seb128> cassidy, it's a 15h
[09:43] <cassidy> cool, I'll be there
[09:44] <cassidy> there is a live stream, irc chan, etc ?
[09:44] <seb128> yes
[09:44] <seb128> live stream and irc
[09:44] <seb128> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-12/ has the schedule
[09:45] <seb128> the irc channel will be #ubuntu-uds-lehar
[09:45] <cassidy> oki
[09:47] <seb128> cassidy, the streams are on http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/
[09:48] <seb128> ok, got to go, see you later
[09:48] <cassidy> yep
[11:56] <Cimi> pitti: rickspencer3: I have a visual update for the overlay scrollbar. fixes a hot bug, though it changes visuals... do I need to put it in natty-proposed or oneiric?
[11:57] <rickspencer3> do you have a bug link?
[11:58] <Cimi> sure
[11:58] <Cimi> rickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/773263
[11:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 773263 in overlay-scrollbar "scrolling doesn't work at the edge of the screen (fitts' law is broken)" [Undecided,In progress]
[11:59] <Cimi> rickspencer3: there's a video too, it changes a lot (visually)
[11:59] <rickspencer3> that looks like an oneiric fix to me
[12:00] <Cimi> rickspencer3: me too, I'd say let's open a natty PPA too
[12:17] <Borreal> hi
[12:17] <Borreal> is there someone inline?
[13:07] <basso> hello :D
[13:40] <basso> Hello again!
[13:59] <basso> Hello hello :D
[14:32] <basso> Hello! :3
[14:42] <tseliot> pitti: are you available now?
[14:42] <tseliot> pitti: we're in kazinczy
[18:06] <ricotz> cyphermox, hi, did you get my message?
[18:20] <basso> Hello everyone :D
[20:47] <basso> Hello again!
[21:39] <basso> Even more hello!
[22:10] <kklimonda> ls
[22:36] <basso> im in love with danish "gifflar"