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thorwilgodbyk: hi! are you aware of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-documentation-pronovix-dita-drupal-demo ?08:04
thorwilgodbyk: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/desktop-o-documentation-pronovix-dita-drupal-demo/10:31
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godbykthorwil: Ah, no. I haven't been to any of the UDS sessions this time around.  (Time zone issues and work getting in the way.)18:19
godbykthorwil: I'll definitely read through the notes and listen to the audio recordings when they're available, though.18:19
godbykThere were a couple other Ubuntu docs sessions as well.18:19
godbykAnd some usability/design sessions.18:19
thorwilgodbyk: i listened to a bit of that session ... don't think we missed much, but the planned announcement, having something to look at might become interesting18:31
godbykyeah, definitely.18:49
godbykthorwil: while I've got you here, do you have any suggestions for a good color to use for the linkx in the manual?18:50
godbykIt was this brick red color, but that doesn't fit the Ubuntu color scheme.18:50
godbykAnd their identity documentation lists a bunch of different colors (they disagree with themselves a lot, it seems).18:50
godbykI need something that's noticeable on screen (so you can tell it's a link), but when printed in greyscale is still readable and doesn't stand out too much from the black text around it.18:51
godbyk(Not asking for much, am I? ;-))18:51
thorwilgodbyk: well, dark red or perhaps aubergine (if you're that concerned with staying close to the visual id)?18:53
godbykI think I tried an aubergine.  I'll have to look up their suggestions for print colors again, I guess.18:53
thorwil(i don't think a dark red has to be a problem, even in direct vicinity of that orange18:53
thorwil)18:54
godbyk(Last I left my tests in the maverick repository, it was set to some light orange.  And it's too light.)18:54
godbykThe brick red color we've been using is just one that I had handy from another project. It isn't based on any sort of color theory or the Ubuntu palette.  If they have a dark red in their palette still, we could give that a shot.18:55
thorwilyeah, any orange is bound to be on the light side, as in the other direction, you either go red or brown (greenish mold slime dirt yuck colored)18:55
godbykheh18:56
godbykI've never had browns print well.18:56
thorwilgodbyk: do you have the code for the orange at hand?18:56
godbykYeah, let me find it for ya.18:57
godbykLooks like the "Ubuntu orange" that I have in the document style is #DD4814.18:57
godbykI also have a few different aubergines.  Not sure where I got them all:18:59
godbyk%\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{772953}% aubergine (from design.canonical.com heading)18:59
godbyk%\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{1A0512}% aubergine (from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=boot.png)18:59
godbyk%\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{6e154c}% aubergine18:59
godbyk%\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{4c0d34}% aubergine18:59
godbyk%\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{991a68}% aubergine18:59
thorwilgodbyk: you could try 82230b or 62120918:59
thorwilgodbyk: basically start from the orange, use HSL mode, reduce lightness, shift hue just slightly red-wards the lower you go19:01
thorwiland no need to obsess over the last degree, as you control over the output hardware, which will vary wildly and often suck, anyway :)19:02
thorwil* have no control *, even19:02
godbykthat's certainly true. :)19:02
godbykHere's how the 82230b looks: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/thorwil-color-1.pdf19:03
godbyk(kind of muddy, I think.)19:03
godbykbuilding and uploading the second one now.19:03
godbyksecond one is up: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/thorwil-color-2.pdf19:04
thorwilsecond looks better, but a bit subtle19:05
thorwilgodbyk: try a7260eff19:05
godbykuploaded: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/thorwil-color-3.pdf19:08
godbykHow the color appears in print should be a secondary concern to how it appears on screen.19:09
thorwillooks acceptable to me19:09
godbyk(I mean, we do generate a black-and-white print edition just for printing.)19:09
godbykI think it looks good on screen.19:09
godbykAnd I just printed a page on my laser printer and it's readable there, too.19:10
thorwilfine :)19:10
godbykdone and done! :)19:10
godbykthanks for your help, thorwil.19:10
thorwilthat was nothing :)19:11
godbykyou were just throwing out random numbers, weren't you!19:11
thorwilpssst, that's the secret of all my work!19:11
godbykI knew it!19:11

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