thorwil | godbyk: hi! are you aware of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-documentation-pronovix-dita-drupal-demo ? | 08:04 |
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thorwil | godbyk: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/desktop-o-documentation-pronovix-dita-drupal-demo/ | 10:31 |
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godbyk | thorwil: Ah, no. I haven't been to any of the UDS sessions this time around. (Time zone issues and work getting in the way.) | 18:19 |
godbyk | thorwil: I'll definitely read through the notes and listen to the audio recordings when they're available, though. | 18:19 |
godbyk | There were a couple other Ubuntu docs sessions as well. | 18:19 |
godbyk | And some usability/design sessions. | 18:19 |
thorwil | godbyk: i listened to a bit of that session ... don't think we missed much, but the planned announcement, having something to look at might become interesting | 18:31 |
godbyk | yeah, definitely. | 18:49 |
godbyk | thorwil: while I've got you here, do you have any suggestions for a good color to use for the linkx in the manual? | 18:50 |
godbyk | It was this brick red color, but that doesn't fit the Ubuntu color scheme. | 18:50 |
godbyk | And their identity documentation lists a bunch of different colors (they disagree with themselves a lot, it seems). | 18:50 |
godbyk | I need something that's noticeable on screen (so you can tell it's a link), but when printed in greyscale is still readable and doesn't stand out too much from the black text around it. | 18:51 |
godbyk | (Not asking for much, am I? ;-)) | 18:51 |
thorwil | godbyk: well, dark red or perhaps aubergine (if you're that concerned with staying close to the visual id)? | 18:53 |
godbyk | I think I tried an aubergine. I'll have to look up their suggestions for print colors again, I guess. | 18:53 |
thorwil | (i don't think a dark red has to be a problem, even in direct vicinity of that orange | 18:53 |
thorwil | ) | 18:54 |
godbyk | (Last I left my tests in the maverick repository, it was set to some light orange. And it's too light.) | 18:54 |
godbyk | The brick red color we've been using is just one that I had handy from another project. It isn't based on any sort of color theory or the Ubuntu palette. If they have a dark red in their palette still, we could give that a shot. | 18:55 |
thorwil | yeah, any orange is bound to be on the light side, as in the other direction, you either go red or brown (greenish mold slime dirt yuck colored) | 18:55 |
godbyk | heh | 18:56 |
godbyk | I've never had browns print well. | 18:56 |
thorwil | godbyk: do you have the code for the orange at hand? | 18:56 |
godbyk | Yeah, let me find it for ya. | 18:57 |
godbyk | Looks like the "Ubuntu orange" that I have in the document style is #DD4814. | 18:57 |
godbyk | I also have a few different aubergines. Not sure where I got them all: | 18:59 |
godbyk | %\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{772953}% aubergine (from design.canonical.com heading) | 18:59 |
godbyk | %\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{1A0512}% aubergine (from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=boot.png) | 18:59 |
godbyk | %\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{6e154c}% aubergine | 18:59 |
godbyk | %\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{4c0d34}% aubergine | 18:59 |
godbyk | %\definecolor{UbuntuAubergine}{HTML}{991a68}% aubergine | 18:59 |
thorwil | godbyk: you could try 82230b or 621209 | 18:59 |
thorwil | godbyk: basically start from the orange, use HSL mode, reduce lightness, shift hue just slightly red-wards the lower you go | 19:01 |
thorwil | and no need to obsess over the last degree, as you control over the output hardware, which will vary wildly and often suck, anyway :) | 19:02 |
thorwil | * have no control *, even | 19:02 |
godbyk | that's certainly true. :) | 19:02 |
godbyk | Here's how the 82230b looks: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/thorwil-color-1.pdf | 19:03 |
godbyk | (kind of muddy, I think.) | 19:03 |
godbyk | building and uploading the second one now. | 19:03 |
godbyk | second one is up: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/thorwil-color-2.pdf | 19:04 |
thorwil | second looks better, but a bit subtle | 19:05 |
thorwil | godbyk: try a7260eff | 19:05 |
godbyk | uploaded: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/thorwil-color-3.pdf | 19:08 |
godbyk | How the color appears in print should be a secondary concern to how it appears on screen. | 19:09 |
thorwil | looks acceptable to me | 19:09 |
godbyk | (I mean, we do generate a black-and-white print edition just for printing.) | 19:09 |
godbyk | I think it looks good on screen. | 19:09 |
godbyk | And I just printed a page on my laser printer and it's readable there, too. | 19:10 |
thorwil | fine :) | 19:10 |
godbyk | done and done! :) | 19:10 |
godbyk | thanks for your help, thorwil. | 19:10 |
thorwil | that was nothing :) | 19:11 |
godbyk | you were just throwing out random numbers, weren't you! | 19:11 |
thorwil | pssst, that's the secret of all my work! | 19:11 |
godbyk | I knew it! | 19:11 |
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