[00:16] szal: here? === mren is now known as mren|off [00:23] ooki2day: another thing (for you to pastebin, that is) -> dpkg -l '*nvidia*' [00:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/606675/ [00:24] huh? do you have both nvidia-current and nvidia-173 installed? [00:25] installed both? but use one-current [00:25] that's most probably the problem then -> uninstall all things nvidia-173 [00:26] the 173 is for GeForce FX series only [00:26] hey all... any one with flash problems in rekonq? [00:26] !anyone [00:26] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [00:26] cant see the videos, i hear sound but no video [00:27] then restart computer or X server? [00:27] ooki2day: run 'nvidia-xconfig', then reboot [00:27] ok ill try it [00:28] lucas-arg: you'll try what? [00:29] haha, that's sadly funny [00:31] ok i did nvidia-xconfig and rebooted, and nothing happend still cant see youtube videos on rekonq [00:32] lucas-arg: since when is your nick 'ooki2day'? [00:32] ooki2day its me) [00:32] im lucas... [00:33] im not oosomthing [00:33] so reqonk doesnt work... [00:33] lucas-arg: he's saying you followed directions he was giving to ooki2day [00:33] lol [00:33] ok [00:33] so flash doesnt work on rekonq [00:44] I uninstalled 173 driver, but can't enable effects again [00:52] szal: for desktop effects, I need install compiz? [00:52] ooki2day: hell no [00:52] Compiz is a totally different pair of shoes & has nothing to do w/ KDE or its effects [00:53] the only guess left is that there's still problems w/ the 8800, which was known to be a b*tch when it first came out [00:54] s/when/after/ [01:24] szal: ping [01:25] what's the matter? [01:26] i can enable effects, but with XRender [01:31] hi [01:33] i am in trouble, i tried to remove some files in order to free more space but i did a big mistake [01:33] some files were removed from my ubuntu 10.10 [01:36] now i lost the graphic interface of ubuntu 10.10 [01:37] can any one help me? [01:51] After installing kubuntu 11.04 using wubi under windows xp, the bootloader doesn't show the option for 'KUBUNTU'... [02:09] Hello [02:11] So how is everyone? [02:11] can anyone tell me why my programs are turning black when thy are maximized? [02:11] i dont know if its my nvidia card or something else? [02:13] semistud2354: is it a new problem ? if so it's likely to be a driver issue [02:13] i cant remember when it started [02:13] are you using the nouveau drivers or the binary nvidia drivers ? [02:13] the drivers that kubuntu told me to install [02:14] in the drivers detection program [02:14] so i guess their the nvidia one [02:14] told you or offered you the option [02:14] right yeh it didn't tell you to install them [02:14] it gave you the option [02:14] and those are the binary nvidia drivers [02:15] if i minimize it it works [02:15] i dont understand [02:15] so you can either try the nouveau drivers or contact nvidia [02:15] and see how to file a bug there [02:16] can i still have desktop effects if i use the nouveau drivers [02:16] if you haven't MAKE SURE the nouveau drivers are not installed [02:16] if you have the binary nvidia drivers installed [02:16] because the installer will not remove the nouveau drivers [02:16] gennro: why would that make a difference, afaik nvidia ship their own glx stack , mesa replacement etc.. [02:17] the nvidia driver would not link to any of those [02:17] yes it does [02:17] verified it on several ocasions now [02:17] so how did you veryfy this ? [02:17] could it be a setting in desktop effects in KDE? [02:17] semistud2354: no [02:18] i have a feeling its a dumb thing like that [02:18] it's not [02:18] damn [02:18] so i cant do much besides file a bug report [02:18] trust me.......... the nouavou driver is junk and will cause problems [02:19] gennro: that's not correct at all. On some cards they perform perfectly fine. I use them on a few of my boxes [02:19] oh and the meta package for the nvidia 185 driver is bad also [02:19] you won't win any speed awards [02:19] but for regular desktop use, if you have a supported card they are really quite good [02:20] omg [02:20] i just rebooted X server and now it works [02:20] wtf [02:21] it happens [02:22] geez i wonder whats making it do that [02:22] its not on all programs [02:22] and it only happens here and there [02:22] gennro: i am curious how you worked out that the nvidia driver was linking against the nouveau driver ? [02:22] o...curious [02:22] could it be that i'm still on the beta kubuntu [02:23] what happend was i doewnloaded the beta and just did all the updates till now [02:23] semistud2354: have you updated your system since release? [02:23] yeah [02:23] semistud2354: if you have all the updates then you ahve the final version effectivly [02:23] like the sudo apt-get update [02:23] go to the KPackageKit and remove"xserver-xorg-video-nouneau" [02:23] will fix your issue [02:23] semistud2354: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ^^ [02:24] had the same issues after installing the binary nvidia drivers........ removed the nouvaeu driver and all fixed [02:25] gennro: how are you so sure? I have never ever seen the open drivers interfer with then closed ones and remvoing them will likly just mean he loses the fallback option [02:25] nothings poping up for xserver-xorg-video-nounea [02:25] for some reason xorg likes to load the nouvaeu driver over the nvidia one for no reason also [02:25] or just nouneau [02:26] if the nouvaeu driver is loaded into the kernel at the same time the nvidia one is it will cause issues [02:26] how can i find out? [02:26] is there an ls command i can imput [02:26] input* [02:27] semistud2354: lsmod [02:27] the REASON why NVIDIA will blacklist the nouvaeu driver if you install the nvidia driver manually via the package from nvidia's website [02:28] and if you are worried about a fallback the VESA driver is installed and works fine for times when the nvidia drivers fail [02:28] im assuming that i look for nouneau after i type lsmod [02:29] it is spelled nouveau.... the reason you can't find it [02:29] yea nouveau isn't in my lsmod [02:29] is that a bad thing? [02:30] semistud2354: it means your not using the open drivers so they shouldnot be conflicting [02:30] semistud2354: you should have nvidia instead listed [02:30] just do "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveu" without the quoates into the terminal [02:31] * James147 doupts that will do much ^^ [02:31] i don't think it will either [02:31] Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-video-nouveu [02:31] "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" [02:31] thats what poped up [02:31] forgot the A sorry [02:32] ^^ if anything it stop you from falling back to the open drivers should the nvidia ones fail (ie when upgrading to a new version of kubuntu) [02:32] then after that reboot the computer [02:32] and it shouldn't happen anymore === jeff_ is now known as Guest72237 [02:32] The following packages will be REMOVED: [02:32] xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [02:32] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:32] After this operation, 356 kB disk space will be freed. [02:32] Do you want to continue [Y/n]? [02:33] semistud2354: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:33] hit Y [02:33] what should i say? [02:33] Y [02:33] xserver-xorg-video-all < no its not [02:33] just a meta package [02:34] whats a meta package? [02:34] just a file that tells what other files to be installed without you having to install all of those files yourself [02:34] should i do the update thing [02:34] makes your life easier [02:34] ahh i see [02:35] update && dist up grade thing [02:35] should i do that now [02:35] so if you remove the meta package it doesn't remove anything but the meta package [02:35] yeah you can't [02:35] you can I mean [02:35] will just update the package lists and check your system for any updates and insta;; them if you wish [02:36] ok now what? [02:36] "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade" [02:36] did that [02:37] anything to update? [02:37] oh duh do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [02:37] prolly should be some things that need updated also [02:38] nothing to update [02:38] is that bad? [02:38] should it update or something? [02:38] nah.... just means no updates [02:38] now just reboot your computer and you should be good to go [02:38] ok...here goes...brb [02:40] Linux gennro-G50VT 2.6.38-5.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Sat May 7 01:31:23 CDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [02:40] Anyone know how to download Itunes for Kubuntu, I've looked on the forums and can't find anything [02:41] melodie: there is no linux version of itunes [02:41] I don't think Itunes works in linux [02:41] DRM [02:41] though amarok can sync with `some` apple products [02:42] gennro: dont think it has anything to do with drm... [02:42] has a lot to do with it [02:42] >.< so I have to go on virtual machine for that then? I have another program called gtkpod...that dosent work though? So should I just try Amarok then... It is a Ipod nano 4th generation [02:43] gennro: considering they dont drm their music anymore I doupt it [02:43] melodie: try amarok, see if it can [02:44] ok [02:44] back [02:44] nothing seemes messed up [02:44] so what do i do now [02:45] james147: just out of curiosty do you know why they took drm off..i thought it protected there files if that is what you were talking about?? [02:45] and if anyone whats to know the Liquorix kernel works fine in buntu 11.04 [02:45] so no issues semistud2354? [02:45] nope [02:45] cool [02:45] not as of yet [02:45] well there ya go [02:45] let me try something that used to give me black screens [02:46] opening like 12 documents in ocular [02:46] James147: just out of curiosty do you know why they took drm off..i thought it protected there files if that is what you were talking about?? [02:47] yeah if i still open like 12 documents in ocular it still does it [02:47] melodie: due to overwhelmingly popular demand... since it stoped used from using th files on more then a few devices [02:47] well it would of been nice if you would of informed us of that [02:48] stoped users ^^ [02:48] thats prolly just a bug in ocular [02:48] o [02:48] well i have another question...if you dont mind? [02:49] semistud2354: if it didnt work then i suggest installing xserver-xorg-video-all again (might help to avoid problems in the furture) [02:50] James147: I don't think it was very smart doing that..oh wel, I'm not running the company, thanks James. You have satisfied my curiousity. [02:50] when i first installed kubuntu it took like...10 sec to boot...after i installed the broadcom driver it now takes like 60 secs [02:51] melodie: no one likes drm stuff... so its better for the people... and if they only offer drm stuff then allot of people just wont buy from them [02:51] drm is a flawed concept [02:51] * James147 agrees with mase_wk [02:51] most people don't even know what the DRM is [02:52] ^^ people tend to `steal` stuff more out of it being easier then actually buying the stuff in the first place.... though this is really a topic for off topic [02:53] yeh i completely agree, most people just want the quickest , easiest way to do something [02:53] James147: In my mind wouldn't it just lead to more copies of music being illigally distibuted and copied?? Then given away for free?? [02:53] Maybe I just don't understand drm fully I guess [02:54] melodie: join #kubuntu-offtopic [02:54] :)hello [02:56] Now that Amarok is up, I can see the ipod and the tracks on the ipod, but how to I get the music on it... ( feel sort of stupid asking ) === claydoh changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 11.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release, upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines | Kubuntu Council elections: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-May/00 === claydoh changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 11.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release, upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines | Kubuntu Council elections: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-May/00 === claydoh changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 11.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release, upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines | Council elections: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-May/005170.htm [03:02] ?? === claydoh changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 11.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release, upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines | Council elections: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-May/005170.htm [03:46] hi all, how can I find the kubuntu changes with upstream? [04:20] qboster: did you see the link in the /subject line? [04:20] kubuntu stays as current as possible [04:23] valorie, sorry, and how can I get my answer? [04:29] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release [04:29] and there will be a notice there about 4.6.3 as well [04:29] but say more about what information you need [04:30] as new KDE packages are released, our packagers pack them up [04:30] when there is a new KDE release, that is out for the user usually within a day [04:31] if you want more specific information, you might drop into #kubuntu-devel [04:31] although many of our team are at UDS right now [04:31] or read the kubuntu-devel mail list [04:32] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel [04:32] valorie, OK, thanks, and if I want to know how the packager to branding upstream kde, I may go to kubuntu-devel, right ? [04:33] yes, that's an open channel for devel questions and participation [04:33] we're always looking for more packagers [04:33] :-) [04:34] valorie, aha, it sounds good [04:38] Is that pretty hard to do? === dan__ is now known as dan_l [04:39] I don't really have the skillz to contribute. Because I'm computer fail. [04:40] the packaging is too complex for ME [04:40] but contributions can come from people with all kinds of strengths [04:41] we need translators, documentation writers, web developers, artists, enthusiastic people, wonderful folks like the experts who hang out here to help people [04:41] and on and on [04:42] heh. I don't know what of that I could do :) [04:42] sometimes I see absolute beginners helping other beginners here [04:43] it's awesome [04:43] Well I try to do that. But that's only rudimentary help. [04:43] answer a .....'how do I?" [04:43] I occasionally smugly tell somebody to avoid using badbuntu. [04:44] badbuntu? [04:45] My pet name for ubuntu:) [04:45] I'm a total ktard. [04:45] I have an admittedly irrational love for it. [04:46] well, my favorite is kubuntu [04:46] but we're all in this together [04:46] yup [04:46] Canonical provides support and the basis for kubuntu as well as ubuntu [04:47] * mase_wk sighs [04:47] and that extends outward -- we're all in the cause of free and open source [04:48] except fro my nvidia drivers [04:48] for [04:48] our LoCo had a table at LinuxFest Northwest 2 weekends ago [04:48] we presented the newest Ubuntu/Unity as well as Kubuntu [04:48] since I was there [04:48] :-) [04:49] gave away a bunch of CDs I burned for people, as well as a large stack of Kub. stickers [04:49] cool [04:50] so I found out today that the Liquorix kernel works well with Kubuntu and is well worth it [04:51] I've heard another mention of that today [04:51] what is it? [04:52] is a kernel setup for desktop performance [04:52] really made for debian but works fine in ubuntu [04:52] aren't all kernels used "setup for desktop performance"? [04:52] not all [04:53] ost are geared for server [04:53] sure, but we use a different kernel [04:53] for desktop [04:53] generic? [04:53] thats like great value at walmart [04:53] bleh [04:54] I really shouldn't talk about this, since I know so little [04:56] so valorie what do you do for Kubuntu? [04:58] good question [04:58] I test a lot of stuff [04:58] blog and such [04:59] and am working towards contributing to documentation [04:59] cool [04:59] We need more of it:) [04:59] So get right on that. [04:59] plus community outreach, I guess [05:00] hi boys. im wanting to try out kubuntu for the first time. im having a bit of trouble finding a torrent download for the latest AMD64 LTS. can somebody point me in the right direction? [05:01] giantpune: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/release/dvd/kubuntu-11.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent [05:01] ? [05:01] 11.04 is not LTS [05:01] Oh. I fail at failing. [05:01] 10.04 is a LTS release [05:01] its every other release [05:02] there is a torrent for 10.04 as well [05:02] I'm serving it [05:02] or whatever you call it [05:02] Seeding! [05:02] yep [05:02] What kind of pirate arrrrrrrrrrrr you? [05:02] not much! [05:02] lol [05:03] woot http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/lucid/ [05:03] Valorie: I became quite fond of the notifications in 10.04, 10.10. [05:04] they've only gotten better [05:04] :-) [05:04] Yeah I don't know. It seems like my notifications are distributed now. [05:04] 11.04 is the best and most stable I have used so far [05:05] like the kopete notifications aren't coming from the same place as the other notifications [05:05] has qt 4.7.2 made it into any of the repos yet? or are all of kubuntu versions still using 4.6.x? [05:06] since i upgraded, the good previous from my desktop fence have come back. That's awesome. [05:07] not sure about the qt versions [05:08] I think I have seen some 4.7.2 in the upstream.... but not much..... running 4.6.3 KDE from the kubuntu ppa [05:08] im still on ubuntu 10.04 and having to build 4.7.X from source. theres only 4.6.X in the repos here [05:09] but that is a few QT libs and that is it [05:09] looks like I have 4.7.2 on my system [05:09] i built gentoo this week and setup arch and they both have 4.7.2 available. [05:09] with KDE 4.6.3 [05:09] valorie, which kubuntu are you using? [05:09] 11.04 [05:10] * giantpune grabs a torrent for that one as well [05:10] 11.04 works fine with some tweaking and you enable all of the pre-release updates [05:12] I just did an upgrade, and most everything worked well [05:12] however, I still can't get my headphone jack to work [05:12] dunno what is going on there [05:12] asus? [05:12] no idea [05:13] it's an HP laptop, and it's worked up until now [05:13] so I'm fairly sure it has to do with the upgrade [05:13] not the KDE version [05:13] I know there is a fix for that.... its a pulse audio issue [05:13] just can't remember where I saw it [05:13] well, I just installed all the pa gtk control stuff [05:14] everything is turned on [05:14] I might need to visit #pulseaudio and bug colin [05:15] Valorie: is it a switched jack? [05:15] there's a word for it [05:15] and I forget what it is. [05:16] I haven't a clue [05:16] I have a compaq lappy. the jack has the mechanism to detect when headphones have been plugged in. [05:16] it used to work, now it doesn't [05:17] If I were to ever go back to windoze 7, it would detect the presence of the headphones. [05:18] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1734730 <-----there's 1000 different solutions there. One will work, I promise:) [05:18] well, if I went back to 10.10, it would too [05:18] no magic about windoz [05:18] rofl [05:18] thanks for googling for me! [05:20] I wasn't trying to be a jerk! [05:20] wait [05:20] that was the wrong post [05:20] does anybody here used the kubuntu intstaller to create partitions and put /home on a seperate partition? i tried this several times in the past and the installer always choked on it. im wondering if it has been fixed since then [05:20] hang on [05:20] no, I was sincerely thanking you [05:20] I had one from a like a year ago which is what I used to trouble shoot mine. [05:20] Oh. K. srry. [05:21] I hadn't had time to google, file a bug, or visit a channel [05:21] UDS remotely has been a challenge [05:21] I had to run through one of those checklists long ago for some sound problem [05:22] can't remember what exactly, any more [05:23] Ya know, that's kind of the embarassing thing when I get people to try the kubuntu. [05:23] eh [05:23] I'll find the solution eventually [05:24] and that will make my husband happy [05:24] Like, they'll install it and be like "this is fun, and pretty, and what's that? Not nearly as much malware----GREAT. But ummm why doesn't my sound work?" [05:24] lol [05:24] sound almost always works without a hit [05:24] hitch [05:24] and I help test new phonon and backends [05:24] etc. [05:25] See, I've never done a fresh install without having to spend 3 days screwing with the audio. [05:26] Hell, I guarantee since I upgraded there will be some quirk that will come up in a week that I'll spend a day trying to fix. [05:32] anybody know of a realistic guess as to how much space a boot partition should be? im using whatever grub comes with kubuntu. 50MB? 100MB? [05:34] i set mine for 200 [05:35] if u don' [05:35] if you don't mess much with the kernel then set it for 100 [05:36] ther will be no multibooting and the only time i mess with the kernel here is when it gets updated through the repos [05:37] 100 is fine then [05:39] and what about swap? if i have 2GB or GB of RAM, is swap even needed these days? or is that just a thing of the past? [05:39] or more^ === DevCore is now known as Guest54143 [05:52] pune: yep swap is still needed if not for anything for legacy purpose [05:52] I know for a fact that some systems will not hibernate without swap being on. [05:53] oops. too late. im only setting this up in a VM right now, but ill keep it in mind when i go to install it for real [05:53] I have 4gb of ram but set my swap to 2048mb [05:53] with things like swap, its better to have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them :) [05:54] better to not need to have them [05:54] yeah for like processes to leak over into [06:03] HALP!!!!!!!!!!!!! [06:06] !help | gennro [06:06] gennro: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [06:07] !help | gennro [06:07] gennro, please see my private message [06:07] silly bot [06:08] tricks are for kids [06:08] lol [06:08] its cracks me up [06:09] specially people that come in here [06:09] current drivers for a HP Color Laserjet 3550 printer are not working for Kubuntu 11.04. The HP site only lists 10.10 drivers. When will a driver update be available for 11.04? [06:09] have you tried jockey-kde ? [06:09] thats all on HP bud [06:10] I wouldn't worry about what is on their site [06:10] I looked. This new release is not listed on the HP site yet. [06:10] I haven't had to build anything from a site for.... too many years to remember [06:11] Before I updated from 10.10 the printer worked fine...when i udated to 11.04 I now have errors when I try to print [06:11] i see dolphin has a lot of different settings and stuff to play with. but i dont see that it has a quick setting that mimics nautilus' and windows' compact view. what im shooting for is the on the left side of this image. does anybody know if there is a simple setting im missing? http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/875/dolphin.png [06:12] no idea pune [06:13] milano30man: I guess you will need to wait for HP to release updated drivers [06:13] pune: if nautilus works for you , you could just use nautilus [06:13] or go back to 10.10 [06:13] ok [06:13] logging off is also a problem... the only way I can do it without freezing up the desktop is to select restart. [06:14] log off or shutdown does not work correctly....has anyone noticed this in 11.04? [06:14] nope [06:14] i cold mase_wk. but if possible, i would like to use the default programs and just configure them a bit [06:15]