[13:12] danilos, if you are around, I'd like to chat about whether we can move ahead on the mute work without you. [13:31] benji, gmb, skype in a sec [13:31] Righto [14:30] gmb, almost ready. [14:30] gary_poster: Okay. I'm ready when you are. [16:00] gary_poster: Ah, I was wrong about the linter. It does pick up the PDB call; I just didn't spot it because there was a lot of other things wrong with the file I added it to :). [16:00] gmb, lol, ok cool [16:00] Maybe it should flash it in red letters. [16:00] heh [16:15] gary_poster: you said that there was code that already does some sort of "you can contact this team by mailing their contact address" behavior; can you give me any more pointers to that? I can't find it. [16:16] benji, I don't know. :-) Let me look; I know what I meant, but maybe I was mistaken... [16:16] thanks [16:17] benji, search for "CONTACT_TEAMS" in lib/lp/bugs/javascript/subscription.js [16:18] ah! thanks === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-ohnomnom === Ursinha-ohnomnom is now known as Ursinha [19:14] gary_poster: I finally have everything coming together for my bug. I like this version that doesn't use explanitory text but I'm afrade it will be too subtle: http://i.imgur.com/3XFjR.png [19:14] (me realized Gary may be on a call) [19:14] * gary_poster looks [19:14] no [19:14] cool [19:15] the rain fritzes out my telepathy [19:15] :-) [19:17] also note that the text in the two boxes just below "Other subscriptions" could use more margin between the prose and the action. If you agree, I'll fix that too. [19:17] most definitely, though I was wondering if there might be better solutions to that problem. Considering... [19:19] yeah, ok I agree that more margin is sufficient for that problem. Still considering other bits... [19:22] After consideration, I'm ok with not having explanatory text in the abstract, but there's a problem I would like to be solved. One solution would be to add some explanatory text, but I can imagine another, and I expect there are yet more reasonable options. [19:22] The problem is that the user should know what to ask the administrators to change. [19:22] In this case, there are two options [19:22] mm, good point [19:23] The administrator could change the subscription [19:23] or the administrator could remove the contact address [19:23] The other solution I can think of in the abstract is to pre-populate the email text to the administrators with the pertinent details. [19:23] That would be a nice feature generally [19:24] But that would either mean a new page [19:24] or it would mean passing arbitrary things in a query string [19:24] and having the mail page accept them to insert them as default [19:24] which inherently is not so bad IMO [19:24] but is sometimes frowned upon [19:25] as I said, maybe there are other options [19:25] actually, that already works: https://launchpad.net/~benji/+contactuser?field.message=foo [19:25] heh [19:25] can you submit the form too? [19:26] not that I want you to, mind you :-) [19:26] more from a "potentially security hole that I should probably not be amused about" perspective [19:27] nope, I get a UnsafeFormGetSubmissionError [19:27] but we can include a subject too: https://launchpad.net/~benji/+contactuser?field.message=foo&field.subject=hi [19:27] so assuming acceptable text for subject and message, that option sounds good [19:30] ok, cool [19:30] I'm +1 on that, myself [19:30] it seems like a reasonable compromise [19:31] I changed "Request administrators change" to "Request team administrators change" to be clear about which administrators we're talking about. [19:31] cool [19:31] Yeah I keep staring at that text [19:31] Request change from team administrators? [19:31] feels kind of hard to parse atm [19:32] hmm, yeah "Request team administrators change" could mean that you want to provoke a regime change :) [19:32] "Request team administrators change subscription"? Getting long now, but it's the only thing on the line. [19:34] Honestly it is still hard for me to parse quickly [19:35] Request that team adminstrators change the subscription [19:35] Request team adminstrators change the subscription [19:35] Request subscription changethat team adminstrators change the subscription [19:35] Sorry that was supposed to be [19:35] Request subscription change [19:35] Request change to the subscription [19:36] I like that last one myself [19:36] We don't have to mention the administrators here, I think [19:36] especially with the prepopulated email [19:36] yep me too; and if they don't know who they're talking to they'll be able to look on the next page [19:36] (that will presumably mention the administrators [19:36] yep [19:37] right [19:37] cool [19:37] "Request change to the subscription" it is. [19:37] great. looks good, thank you [19:38] Today's productivity brought to you by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKJeLG8-M5I [19:40] gary_poster: what did we want to do differently if the team contact is a mailing list and the user is subscribed to the mailing list? Point them at the page where they can manage their subscription? [19:40] music is cool [19:42] songs like that make me want to try building sampled tracks again; it feels like one of those "life's work" kind of things that we only have so much time for though [19:42] yeah that's fine. My initial idea was that we could offer to unsubscribe them directly. I have no idea how reasonable that is. If we send them off to a page, we should make it clear what they need to do there (that is, which mailing list they need to unsubscribe from) [19:42] heh [19:42] sounds good [20:50] here's a first draft of the message: http://typewith.me/RfELh2ztbw I'm not real happy with it. [20:51] oops, gary^ [21:00] benji, was getting kids from school. will read, then call you [21:00] sounds good === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk