[00:36] Cheri703: Sully with anything distinctly Hungarian would be cool. :) [02:55] Hola. [03:48] * jgould wanders in [03:48] Yello jgould [03:49] Evening, Unit193 [03:50] I shall go retrofit the AC in my car tonight... Then maybe it won't be so dagon hot... [04:26] Hmm... Chromium or Firefox... [04:26] Firefox! [04:29] I'm leaning that way as well. but it's more like which uses less memory? (never mind the fact that I have 8GB of ram... [04:32] http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll29s57p801qaqv3qo1_500.jpg [04:35] I really need to get a plugin to do something with the scripts for URLs in WeeChat... [04:40] be back after wile [05:05] Unit193: That's awesome. [05:05] jgould: I've seen chrome use tons of ram.. I've seen Firefox use tons of ram. It's mroe a matter of what you prefer. [06:56] I have seen both as well, canthus13 [07:03] Firefox is the only application that I've ever seen use more ram than kernel_task on MacOS X [07:07] Midori is nice if you need really lightweight (And only a bit buggy) [07:20] My previous macbook only had 2GB of ram, so I'm always watching it... Old habits die hard [07:24] "It's going really slow, I need to close some things...." [07:25] Pretty much [08:04] Cheri703: your hostname is a mouthful... [08:05] yeah [08:06] I'm at UDS [08:06] in budapest [08:07] * jgould has no clue how to program... [08:07] nor do I [08:08] So what are you learning at the develpoer conference? [08:08] ALL KINDS OF STUFF [08:09] I've been posting a bunch on my identi.ca account (I'm cheri703 on there) [08:09] identi.ca [08:09] ? [08:09] it's like twiter [08:09] *twitter [08:09] I have also been posting on my work twitter, but not as much stuff [08:10] Hah [08:10] er [08:10] heh [08:10] ah [08:10] I just made it right before the trip [08:10] * jgould is having trouble typing [08:11] no worries. I am tired [08:11] it's 9:11am right now [08:12] It's 3am here... [08:12] yeah [08:13] I think I shall be heading to bed. good Day? Heh Fill your brain with knowledge to bring back to us! [08:14] Then we can talk about it at the next U-H ;) [08:14] Heh [08:14] Night guys [08:15] night [08:15] Unit193: I'm totally wearing my uds shirt for ubuntu hour :) [08:15] G'night! [08:15] also will bring stickers and such [08:16] it will be next wednesday at 5, fyi [08:16] our ubuntu hour [08:17] There were two deaths today, so I don't know what's going on :/ [08:17] :( :( [08:17] Should all be good, but I don't know... [08:17] I saw that, sorry to hear about that [08:18] That's never a good thing... [08:19] If it's a normal day, that Weds will work better than normal [08:19] kk [08:20] that will also let some of the other folks (at least in theory) be able to attend [08:28] I really love this Facebook smear attack on Google... [08:28] It's amusing to see people defend google for once [08:29] * Unit193 hasn't seen it... Only that FB is doing it.. [08:29] You haven't seen it since it never got written. [08:29] See they tried to recruit a whole bunch of privacy experts, well one of them posted the email online :P [08:30] And there went their scummy attack plan [08:32] And of course, in the end it gets even better [08:32] Facebook is in bed with Microsoft, so this isn't just facebook attacking google. It leads right back to Microsoft, funny how that always seems to happen... [11:56] Cheri703: when do you head back? [14:50] hi all [14:50] hola [14:51] How's UDS going? [14:52] pretty good [14:52] last day [14:52] Going to miss it tomorrow? lol [14:52] yes and no [14:52] Ah [14:53] What part won't you miss? [14:55] the food at the hotel is meh, my feet hurt, my roommate keeps me up, and I think I'm getting sick...also the whole thing is just really tiring, it's constant information and people and meeting and etc [14:55] lol Yep... [14:55] kinda like a week long OLF huh? [14:55] yeah, only mark shuttleworth is here and various other people [14:56] True enough, have you gotten to talk with mark 1on1? [14:57] * Derath-Srvr has always wondered what he's like in person... [15:11] wb [15:13] thanks, low power, hibernated [15:14] and no, no one on one with mark shuttleworth, have passed him in the hall a few times, and shared an elevator with him [15:16] cool [15:16] yeah, kind of neat [15:19] Cheri703: Didja manage to get a pic of sully with something hungarian? (Sign, local beer, etc..) [15:19] yep, there's a train station and I got a sign that says "budapest" in the background [15:19] Sweet! :) [15:19] will see if I can get any more, but I'm pretty much out of time other than perhaps in the airport [15:20] That's all good... [15:20] oh, also in front of a hungarian ice cream store sign [15:20] and eating an ice cream cone [15:20] ... [15:20] Awesome.. :) [15:20] anyway [15:20] I'll try to get them sent before I get on my flight tomorrow [15:20] Cool... [15:21] just as a note: we as a loco are slacking :) compared to many out there... [15:21] ? [15:21] how so? [15:22] well, others have lots more members, MANY more events, doing outreach, participating in organized testing, etc [15:22] I'm not surprised. We've got a number of people left feeling like Ubuntu has ditched us... [15:23] as far as the cd's? [15:23] Not to mention having a splinter group under us that we didn't know about [15:23] I saw someone mention that...is it an official loco? or unofficial? [15:24] * Derath-Srvr shrugs [15:25] * canthus13 has a hard time doing any kind of outreach/evangelism when he's embarrased to show the latest offerings. [15:25] true [15:25] but I'm all for promoting the older ones [15:25] sigh, Gnome, KDE and XFCE are still "latest offerings" [15:25] specifically, Unity. And from what I've seen, it's only getting worse. (Total removal of gnome classic...) [15:25] when vista came out, people were still promoting xp [15:27] <_bbb> i find it somewhat stupid that it requires 3d [15:28] 2d is coming [15:28] apparently [15:28] Service release [15:31] <_bbb> i love jorge but unity not so much [15:31] <_bbb> i see ther eis a unity-2d ppa [15:32] yeah, I installed 11.04 on my other partition the other day, but until some things about the launcher are changed, patched, or replaceable, then I can't use it full time. it kills my normal workflow [15:33] hehe, mark shuttleworth just walked into the governance meeting [15:34] BiosElement, jacob: who has ownership of the Ubuntu Columbus, OH facebook page? it's...sad [15:37] <_bbb> better than clevelands [15:37] possibly [15:37] just saying [15:38] oh, and for the record: it is completely ok for there to be more than one approved loco team per state [15:38] there are many states with multiple [15:38] so that has nothing to do with canonical (on the note of feeling abandoned) [15:39] Cheri703: Makes sense for a state like California or TX... although I like the ReLoCo concept better... [15:39] I think they'd also be much more likely to send swag or other stuff if we were showing growing numbers, events happening, etc etc [15:39] dunno though [15:40] true canthus13, but if a group of people didn't like the overall structure of ours, then they have every right to go make a new one [15:41] True... [15:41] though we are pretty distantly spread [15:41] so if there was a "western ohio" loco and a "southern ohio" loco, that'd actually probably help, because having everything based in columbus leaves the people out on the edges feeling left out [15:41] I dunno [15:49] That was the reason for the ReLoCo setup, really... [15:50] true, but it does limit how much crap we can get from canonical...if we had 5 different loco teams in the state, we'd have PLENTY of CDs and such [15:51] vs one team's worth of stuff [15:51] (also, mark shuttleworth's accent is VERY south african :) ) [15:53] so I might have found this other group... [15:55] HA [15:55] one of the founders of the group (from what I can tell) is the brother of a guy I know [15:59] http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-Stop/ [16:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/664107/comments/9 <- yes. I hate that #1 was filed as a bug [16:01] http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-Stop/events/past/#initialized [16:07] Yeah, that's the other group... [16:08] I'm going to put out feelers to talk to them [16:09] just fyi, if any of you ever get an openvz vps...iptables is a pain... [16:10] so things like ufw and fail2ban don't work quite as advertised... [16:11] UDS Wrap up starting [16:11] Cheri703: fe: Facebook, I'm not sure [16:11] re:* Facebook * [16:11] ok, no worries [16:16] I wonder if we could get Sully honorary ubuntu membership.... [16:16] hmm... [16:17] hmmm.....I'll see what I can do [16:20] Heh. [21:35] hi every1 [21:35] hi [21:36] Howdy dniMretsaM , Cheri703 [21:36] Hi [21:36] hey unit/cheri/derath [21:37] Unit, r u on here 24/7? [21:37] Just about... [21:37] Derath-Srvr: Howdy! (I missed you ;) ) [21:38] * Cheri703 is packing up for the trip home [21:38] I'm always logged in [21:39] ? [21:39] Oh.. lol [21:39] missed me like 6 hours or so ago.. lol [21:39] lol [21:42] I'm getting really tired of all these anti-Uniy/11.04 threads on the Ubuntu Forums... [21:45] dniMretsaM: Do you like Unity? [21:45] * Derath-Srvr smirks [21:45] Derath-Srvr: You smirk ALL the time... [21:45] Doesn't seem like it gets much better around here... *glances around to particular members* [21:45] Of course I do [21:46] Yeah.... I'll stay off Unity's case... [21:47] I don't mind it, I think there's room for improvement in it though. Would I use it? probably not, just not the style of desktop that appeals to me, but then, that's what linux is all about, right? choice? [21:47] Yes. Well, I like the 3D version. The 2D version has way less customization options than 3D (which still doesn't have that many). [21:48] My computer won't run the 3D, so I use KDE instead [21:48] I see pros and cons to each one, but mostly again from a personal perspective... [21:48] Really need to set my wife in front of it and see what she things... [21:49] (new/untrained user perspective) [21:49] IMO, Unity is good. I know it's not perfect, but it will get better. I can respect thtat people don't like it, but don't post ANOTHER thread about it [21:50] lol truer words have not been said recently lol [21:50] your wife should already b using *buntu. get with the game man! [21:50] She is, but doesn't lik eit much... [21:51] She doesn't do much on it other than web browse and calculator... [21:51] non-geeks ftl [21:51] * Derath-Srvr shrugs [21:52] how do u do the action (blu text) thing [21:54] type /me [21:54] And doesn't come up blue for me... lol all I see is white text lol [21:55] * Derath-Srvr slaps irssi around... [21:55] Green for me :D [21:55] Definitely going to have to check into weechat... [21:55] oh lol. I'm on Quassel (KDE IRC client). that's probably y it comes up blue [21:56] Derath-Srvr: Sounds like you need a good theme... [21:56] oops. just hid the menu bar [21:56] now to figure out how to get it back... [21:57] More than just a theme, after seeing other clients, irssi just isn't keeping my attention like it used to... [21:57] ...That works too! [21:59] * canthus13 lurves irssi, can't imagine using another client. [22:00] laters all! [22:00] I'm considering quassel [22:00] And my reservation for OLF hsa been made!!! WOOT! [22:00] because it's graphical but has a core / client setup so you can get the same effect as irssi and screen [22:00] awesome Derath-Srvr [22:00] Quassel seems like a lot of hassle for no gain. [22:00] quassel seems nice [22:01] canthus13: I use the sounds of Pidgin (Use irssi for text and as a proxy for pidgin) [22:01] never used any other IRC clients though, so yeah.. [22:01] I'm going to mess with it when I get home, so we'll see [22:01] Unit193: I've thought about piping IM clients to irssi, but I don't use IM software enoguh to bother... [22:02] wut is pigdin? [22:02] I only use IM with Finxh [22:02] But I also use Finch... [22:04] canthus13: I use the IRC part of Pidgin so I can tell if I'm getting a msg or if it's a msg to the channel [22:05] I used to think sudo was pronounced sue-doe [22:06] yes, IK that was random, but I just typed it into terminal. that's wut made me think of it [22:06] how do you think it's pronounced? [22:06] sue-due [22:07] ...it's sue-doe [22:07] since you're doing something as su [22:07] that would make it sue-due [22:07] it's pronounced sue-doe though [22:08] I have NEVER heard it as sue-due... [22:08] though I suppose it's a matter of region [22:08] but that doesn't make sense though [22:09] *shrug* say it how you want...I've never heard it that way, I will continue to say it how I do [22:09] * canthus13 says sue-due. [22:09] * Cheri703 thinks canthus13 doesn't count because he's weird [22:10] lol [22:15] Cheri703: thpthpthpthpthp. [22:15] mmmhm [22:36] what r ur oppinions on DRMs? we're discussing it on the forums (not related to the thread, but we're still talking about it lol) [22:41] it's obnoxious and interferes with fair use. [22:51] that seems to be the general consensus. but sadly, they still exist. even though they don't do anything to stop piracy which is supposed to b the point