[00:07] <ybit> here we go.
[00:07] <ybit> http://code.google.com/p/pam-face-authentication/
[00:07] <ybit> Why isn't that in Kubuntu by default?
[01:28] <DarkwingDuck> ybit: ping
[02:47] <ybit> ping DarkwingDuck 
[02:48] <DarkwingDuck> ybit: You have any luck getting the face auth working?
[02:48] <DarkwingDuck> ybit: It fails when i try to log my face for the first time.
[02:53] <ybit> DarkwingDuck: I haven't messed with it, I was just looking for something to do with opencv
[02:53] <ybit> And someone beat me to my idea and then I wondered why it wasn't in kubuntu by default
[02:54] <DarkwingDuck> ybit: It installs and PAM catches it...
[02:54] <ybit> at the very minimum an option to enable it and then fetch the sources
[02:54] <DarkwingDuck> However, it crashes when i try to record my face.
[02:54]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[03:48]  * JontheEchidna made it back home
[03:48] <DarkwingDuck> Hey JontheEchidna 
[04:27] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone busy? I've never tracked something like this down before in the source and finding out why something isn't working.
[04:27] <DarkwingDuck> Has to do with Qt
[04:27] <DarkwingDuck> and a program.
[04:30] <DarkwingDuck> How do I track a segentation fault in a program?
[04:33]  * Quintasan_ is at airport
[04:33] <Quintasan_> JontheEchidna: Buy yourself a beer..oh wait :P
[04:33] <DarkwingDuck> This is getting annoying.
[04:33] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[04:34] <Quintasan> DarkwingDuck: What is?
[04:34] <DarkwingDuck> darkwingduck@StCanard:~$ qt-facetrainer
[04:34] <DarkwingDuck> Segmentation fault
[04:34] <DarkwingDuck> darkwingduck@StCanard:~$ 
[04:34] <DarkwingDuck> Now, I'm at a loss on how to track it down.
[04:34]  * DarkwingDuck isn't a huge developer is this way
[04:34] <Quintasan> check dmesg for some more info
[04:34] <Quintasan> DarkwingDuck: and use gdb
[04:34] <Quintasan> gdb <application>
[04:35] <Quintasan> start and then it should try starting it up while it's hooked to a debugger, assuming you didn't strip debug info from the executable you should get some relevant output
[04:36] <Quintasan> If I messed something up then excuse me as I'm drop-dead tired
[04:37] <DarkwingDuck> It's cool.
[04:37] <DarkwingDuck> I've never done this before and I needed to learn anyway
[04:40]  * Quintasan is going to check-in his baggage
[04:41] <DarkwingDuck> This is still greek to me LOL http://paste.kde.org/66457/
[05:54] <valorie> these are the instructions we give out about using gdb to debug amarok: gdb = install amarok debugging symbols and gdb if necessary, then run: gdb --args amarok --debug --nofork, run, <wait for crash>, thread apply all bt
[05:54] <valorie> works pretty well if you have debug symbols installed
[14:47] <rbelem> ping afiestas 
[14:47] <afiestas> rbelem: pong
[14:48] <rbelem> afiestas, :-D
[14:48] <rbelem> afiestas, como estas?
[14:49] <afiestas> bem 
[14:49] <afiestas> about to go to see the city
[14:49] <rbelem> cool :-)
[14:49] <afiestas> I've been pulling rodrigo's since 11:00 xD
[14:49]  * afiestas was really tired :p
[14:49] <rbelem> ahaha
[14:50] <rbelem> afiestas, i woke up 8 am
[14:50] <rbelem> afiestas, which time did you left the party?
[14:50] <afiestas> going to eat something while the camera gets charged
[14:51] <afiestas> don't remember, but it was late xD
[14:51] <afiestas> like 3 or something
[14:51] <rbelem> aeuhaeu
[14:51] <afiestas> then I got to the new hotel and start hacking :p
[14:51] <afiestas> brb
[14:51] <rbelem> afiestas, the ballmers peak
[14:53] <rbelem> afiestas, you charged until reach the peak, then started hacking :-D
[14:53] <rbelem> afiestas, i'm hacking right now
[14:54] <rbelem> afiestas, i started to create the KSambaUser
[14:54] <rbelem> afiestas, to manage samba users creation, deletion and update
[14:55] <rbelem> afiestas, it has to use kauth
[14:55] <rbelem> afiestas, need root permission for that
[14:57] <eMyller> Tm_T, yofel: sorry, got offline
[14:58] <eMyller> about the "intel chipset"... i've got a netbook with an intel chipset; i've installed maverick first, and it was all smooth and perfect
[14:58] <eMyller> the only bug on the graphics thing was the lazy rendering @ intel gpu with opengl
[14:58] <eMyller> but now, with natty, it's being a pain :(
[14:59] <rbelem> afiestas, after that i will fix the directory permission issue in KSambaShare
[14:59] <eMyller> kded freezes, eating one of the cpus; the graphics are laggy and there are a few other annoying bugs, mostly related to kde daemon.
[15:02] <yofel> yeah, my kded freezes are networking related and happen on a mobile connection loss, and yeah, I had to disable several effects to be able to even use kwin
[15:04] <eMyller> yofel: same here; i'm using mobile connection through pppconfig because if something happens to the conn, i'm forced to restart my box in order to use it normally :(
[15:05] <eMyller> maybe it's something with solid?
[15:05] <bambee> hi
[15:05] <yofel> I'm forced to use wvdial since NMs modem-manager can't use my mobile phone for some reason
[15:06] <yofel> you can get kded somewhat back by killing the stuck one with kill -s 9
[15:06] <eMyller> yofel: ye, but then every network device gets invisible/unusable, even if i bring kded back.
[15:06] <yofel> true
[15:07] <eMyller> yofel: have you tried modeswitch?
[15:08] <yofel> no, wvdial uses my phone fine, so never had the need for it
[15:09] <eMyller> yofel: after all, even if modeswitch could help you -- which probly would --, natty wouldn't let you anyway :P
[15:11]  * eMyller went to remove kitten shitness
[15:13] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me how to add a text (message) inside a KDialog.
[15:13] <c2tarun> ?
[15:17] <afiestas> rbelem: I will use the plane hacking to fix (try to) all the remaining issues with lightDM + KDE
[15:17] <afiestas> then I will probably go to release Kamoso 2.0 and BlueDevil 1.2
[15:18] <rbelem> afiestas,  :-)
[15:18] <rbelem> afiestas, you rock!
[15:18] <afiestas> shit, the camera is almost empty 8% :/
[15:18] <rbelem> afiestas, i'm leaving
[15:18] <rbelem> afiestas, see you in orlando
[15:18] <afiestas> rbelem: see you!
[15:18] <rbelem> afiestas, nice to meet you
[15:19]  * rbelem hugs afiestas 
[15:19] <rbelem> :-D
[15:19]  * afiestas hugs rbelem
[15:19] <rbelem> bye
[15:20] <bambee> c2tarun: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKDialog.html
[15:20] <c2tarun> bambee: thanks :) I figured I have to create a QLabel and then KDialog::setMainWidget(QLabel), it should work :)
[15:26] <bambee> c2tarun: a kpassworddialog inherits from  kdialog and uses a text label with a lineedit. look at http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/kpassworddialog_8cpp_source.html to see how it works :)
[15:27] <c2tarun> bambee: oh.. thats great :) thanks
[15:27] <bambee> yw
[15:50] <shadeslayer> uh
[15:50] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: no
[15:50] <shadeslayer> don't do that
[15:51] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: create a QWidget and parent layouts to that widget
[15:51] <shadeslayer> then use setMainWidget on that widget
[15:52] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: sorry, not getting. are you saying that I should setMainWidget(QWiget)?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:52] <shadeslayer> i'll show you what i did for KDE Tp .. hold on
[15:53] <c2tarun> KDialog::setMainWidget(QWidget)??
[15:53] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: KDialog::setMainWidget(QWidget)??
[15:53] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=clones%2Ftelepathy-contact-list%2Fgarg%2Ftelepathy-contact-list.git&a=blob&h=30430e48ba78cb4ad302983d331408f7ca031708&hb=288d59980c4d9cdd5bcf499f573a0cefca09f74f&f=account-button.cpp
[15:53] <shadeslayer> line 267
[15:58] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: oh and don't try to set a Layout on a KDialog as well, it spits out warnings when you run your app, it recommends using a setMainWidget 
[15:58] <c2tarun> sorry I am not able to understand what it is doing, I wanted to create a dialog with a Text Label in it and an ok, button. on Clicking ok I have to connect a slot. Here is what my dialog looks like http://imagebin.org/153296 and this is what exactly how I wanted it.
[15:59] <c2tarun> well it looks like a cartoon though... :(
[15:59] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: any suggestions how to make it look better?
[16:00] <shadeslayer> looking
[16:00] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: a) use a QLabel
[16:00] <shadeslayer> is that what you're using there?
[16:00] <c2tarun> yup
[16:00] <shadeslayer> okay thats good
[16:00] <c2tarun> what else could I use?
[16:00] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: design it in QtDesigner and show me what you want it to look like ...real quick
[16:01] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I dont know, but its looking like its not something standard dialog box. :( I mean it feels like something missing but I dont know what.
[16:01] <c2tarun> well let me try in QtDesigner though
[16:02] <shadeslayer> well ... its too small and there should be a close button as well ... and both of them should at the bottom left or something
[16:02] <shadeslayer> sure
[16:02] <c2tarun> ohh... yeah close button :| how could I miss that....
[16:03] <shadeslayer> yeah don't manually add one tho
[16:03] <c2tarun> actually I was trying to make some changes in telepathy-contact-list, if there is no account it will pop up a dialog with an option to create one account.
[16:03] <shadeslayer> just use something like objName->setButtons(KDialog::Close);
[16:03] <shadeslayer> righto
[16:03] <c2tarun> yeah... sure
[16:04] <shadeslayer> i think a check button that says "Don't show this warning again"
[16:06] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: that great Idea  but how will I implement it?
[16:06] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: that great Idea but how will I implement it?
[16:06] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Shell_Scripting_with_KDE_Dialogs#Example_9._Sorry_level_message_box
[16:06] <shadeslayer> you need that i think
[16:06] <shadeslayer> just go through that page to see what you need
[16:08] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I think Example 17 + a cancel button will do.
[16:08] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: but I dont know how to use Shell scripted dialogs :/
[16:08] <shadeslayer> yeah so now you know what you need! :)
[16:08] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: erm ... you don't need to ... just code it
[16:10] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ohh... :) but still that brings me to same thing, I dont know how to implement "Don't show again" message, I mean how will I check that when next time I start telepathy-conta*** that message was checked.
[16:10] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: okay you can divide that dialog into a QVBoxLayout that has 2 QLabels + 1 QCheckBox + 1 QPushButton
[16:10] <shadeslayer> ah
[16:10] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: you'll need to look into how to write that into a config file
[16:10] <shadeslayer> i haven't mastered that either
[16:11] <shadeslayer> okay i've gtg ..cya laterz
[16:26] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I read about KConfig but not quite got it ;( so I am dropping the plans for "Don't Show this again".
[16:37] <Mamarok> hm, there is no announce for the Amarok 2.4.1 final version in the backports, some people continue to get the beta version apparently because there is no news since
[16:38] <Mamarok> I guess that's because it was released the same day as KDE 4.6.3
[16:42] <debfx> Mamarok: oh right, the old version is still in the beta backports ppa
[16:43] <Mamarok> debfx: yes, that is not really a problem, the problem is there is no announce for the 2.4.1 final in the backports PPA
[16:43] <Mamarok> so if people search for Amarok 2.4.1 in kubuntu.org they will only find amarok 2.4.1 beta1
[16:44] <yofel> true
[16:46] <yofel> Riddell is gone for a few days and we already lag with our announcements :/
[16:46] <Mamarok> well, the person putting packages in the PPA should also do the announce
[16:47] <yofel> not all of use have access to kubuntu.org. I know  that at least me and apachelogger do though
[16:47] <yofel> let's see...
[16:48] <yofel> debfx: no intention to put 2.4.1 final up for maverick? 
[16:48] <Mamarok> hm isn't there one already?
[16:48] <debfx> I'd rather have someone else who takes care of the announcements
[16:48] <debfx> yofel: no
[16:49] <yofel> well, I can do the announcement, I did the 4.6.3 one already
[16:49] <yofel> k, then natty-only
[16:49] <Mamarok> debfx: well, then hit on those who do have acces to kubuntu.org so the announces are made when you upload something :)
[16:52]  * debfx nominates yofel for kubuntu.org announcement master :D
[16:52] <yofel> sure, which reminds me that I need to subscribe to kde-announce... (hit apachelogger if I'm not present :P)
[16:54] <debfx> bambee: what is libmygpo-qt doing in the beta backports ppa?
[16:55] <bambee> debfx: Riddell said me to put it here :)
[16:55] <bambee> even if it's not a beta...
[16:56] <debfx> yofel: apachelogger? I fear that's wasted time ;)
[16:56] <yofel> hahaha
[16:56] <debfx> bambee: any idea why?
[16:56] <debfx> which package uses it
[16:57] <debfx> it's even newer than the version in the archive
[17:00] <bambee> debfx: amarok uses it
[17:00] <bambee> for the gpodder.net service
[17:00] <Mamarok> oh crap, seems I missed to update my Kubuntu-membership last week, but I was moving house :(
[17:01] <bambee> in 1.0.2-0ubuntu2: I just fixed the license and drop a file which was accidentally uploaded (debian-changes-1.0.2-0ubuntu1)
[17:02] <Mamarok> udslogger: anything I can do about that? ^
[17:03] <bambee> when I did it... it was too late to put it into archives
[17:04] <yofel> Mamarok: http://www.kubuntu.org/news
[17:04] <Mamarok> yofel: thanks a lot :)
[17:05] <debfx> bambee: looks like that is in the archive as ubuntu1
[17:05] <debfx> someone would have to file a MIR in order for amarok to use it
[17:17] <bambee> debfx: ah! I put it in the beta backport ppa because amarok 2.4.1 beta1 was in this ppa and it needs this package. so instead of change the ppa dependencies I dit put it here :)
[17:19] <Mamarok> it would make sens to put it in the backports PPA then
[17:19] <yofel> bambee: doesn't change the fact that amarok doesn't actually use it
[17:20] <yofel> a package from main can't depend on a package from universe
[17:20] <bambee> I did not know that... o_O
[17:21] <debfx> the version in the ppa used it
[17:21] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: thats because universe isnt enabled by default right?
[17:21] <debfx> that change wasn't in bzr though
[17:22] <yofel> no, in PPAs you can use packages from universe, but no in the archive
[17:22] <yofel> you need to file a MIR if you want to use it
[17:22] <yofel> !mir
[17:26] <bambee> I have uploaded this package mainly to make the amarok devs life easier. then if they plan to use this library to programme something or add features to the gpodder service they can use it.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: for some reason your email aliases are still functional ^_^
[17:49] <shadeslayer> ( The email header shows your @kubuntu.org email alias )
[17:50]  * bambee is upgrading to oneiric
[17:50] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:55] <yofel> bambee: join us in #ubuntu+1 then ^^
[17:56] <shadeslayer> hmm ... i'm thinking of buying a pandaboard with GSoC moniez
[17:56] <shadeslayer> then i can test some ARM ISO's :P
[17:56] <tazz> o.O
[17:57] <bambee> shadeslayer: omap4 <3
[17:57] <yofel> I would be happy for some working instructions how to use an armel VM in qemu..
[17:58] <shadeslayer> bambee: yeah ... as soon as i get some GSoC moniez :P
[18:00] <bambee> it's expensive  ^^
[18:01]  * udslogger notes that the entire kubuntu mobile userspace is unsupported on omap4 
[18:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: NEON problems?
[18:01] <apachelogger> it is just unsupported
[18:01] <shadeslayer> thats what i was looking into all day ....
[18:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: why?
[18:02] <apachelogger> as none of the devs has an omap4 system to my knowledge there is very much unsupportedness occuring
[18:02] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:02] <shadeslayer> well ... i'm planning to buy it, so i'll work on it
[18:02] <apachelogger> ehm
[18:02] <apachelogger> yeah
[18:02] <apachelogger> should you not be doing gsoc?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: after GSoC of course
[18:03] <apachelogger> shouldn't you be continuing to mature telepathy after gsoc?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i haz 3 days of every week free for a year  
[18:03] <shadeslayer> next year
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger:  i need to work on a project for my last year ... thinking of doing something kewl with the panda board
[18:04] <apachelogger> define year plz
[18:04] <shadeslayer> which involves KDE and Telepathy and stuff
[18:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: starting July 25th , 2011
[18:04] <apachelogger> cause quite honestly I can imagine super cool stuff you could do
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ooh
[18:04] <apachelogger> none involves telepathy
[18:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do tell
[18:04] <shadeslayer> well ... tell anyways
[18:04] <apachelogger> sekrit
[18:05] <shadeslayer> PM me? :P
[18:05] <apachelogger> I just came home
[18:05] <apachelogger> oh btw next uds is in the empire of obama
[18:05] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> Florida?
[18:05] <apachelogger> the empire of walt disney
[18:05] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what does your sekrit plan involve anyways?
[18:07] <apachelogger> a shitload of technology that is not yet created
[18:07] <shadeslayer> yeah ... i'm definitely getting one then ...
[18:08] <shadeslayer> even has a WWAN chip .... unlike the beagleboard
[18:10] <bambee> apachelogger: Do many people work on ARM on upstream ?
[18:11] <apachelogger> bambee: KDE upstream?
[18:11] <yofel> considering how many build failures we have I doubt that...
[18:11] <bambee> yup
[18:11] <apachelogger> zero
[18:12] <bambee> mhhh
[18:12] <shadeslayer> we could try out plasma active and stuff
[18:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, please do
[18:13] <apachelogger> and package
[18:13] <apachelogger> or rather, package and please do
[18:13] <apachelogger> package > trying > using > deploying ^^
[18:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: don't we built ARM packages already?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> or are you talking about acive?
[18:15] <apachelogger> active
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[18:16] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pingy
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: I laughed yesterday. I saw an add for Warsaw that said that Poland was the cheap version of Europe :P
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> (at the airport)
[18:29]  * apachelogger invokes giggles
[18:29]  * tazz giggles
[18:56] <apachelogger> ScottK: kwin got a commit to make it work with raster in Qt
[19:01] <bambee> shadeslayer: what's your gsoc project, btw ? :)
[19:03] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone else have internal bluetooth?
[19:13] <bambee> lovely http://paste.ubuntu.com/607495/
[19:13] <bambee> the only one broken package :)
[19:15] <DarkwingDuck> Do we have a Oneiric todo yet?
[19:15] <apachelogger> one rather large blog post?
[19:15] <apachelogger> or rather many short ones?
[19:15] <apachelogger> or both?
[19:15] <apachelogger> or neither?
[19:22] <bambee> Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/lib/libnss3.so => only /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss3.so exists o_O
[19:23] <apachelogger> though it is not that bad I think
[19:23] <apachelogger> bambee: do you haz prelink?
[19:23] <apachelogger> also, your javar might be the broken
[19:24] <bambee> apachelogger: you mean, prelink installed ? I don't think so...
[19:24] <bambee> let me check
[19:25] <bambee> it's not installed
[19:25] <debfx> seems like java doesn't know about multi arch paths
[19:25] <bambee> apachelogger: why are you talking about prelink ?
[19:28] <debfx> bambee: bug #779174
[19:30] <bambee> debfx: thanks
[19:46] <bambee> anything to package for oneiric ?
[19:46] <apachelogger> bambee: cause prelink can cause that sorta shit
[19:46] <bambee> ohhh
[19:46] <bambee> ok
[19:46] <apachelogger> bambee: you could pre-screen a WIP blog post for me
[19:47] <apachelogger> tell me whether it should be split into multiple posts
[19:47] <bambee> sure
[19:47] <yofel> don't think anything to do other than the usual merge list from MOM, for the kde merges debian should get 4.6.3 out
[19:47] <apachelogger> last thing I remember they claimed end of last week
[19:47] <apachelogger> for .3
[19:48] <yofel> well, they certainly don't have it out yet...
[19:48]  * apachelogger needs to look over all uds sessions to compile the one-eye-rick todo
[19:48] <apachelogger> yofel: ah, sry, next week
[19:48] <yofel> ah k
[19:48] <bambee> apachelogger: which blog post ?
[19:48]  * apachelogger is listen to very loud music to prevent him from pulling a rodrigo :P
[19:48] <yofel> great, 4.7 is due by then :S
[19:48] <apachelogger> yofel: why did you not attend UDS btw?
[19:49] <yofel> I didn't manage to free myself for a whole week? I did listen to some of the sessions
[19:49] <yofel> I hope I can make it to Orlando (?)
[19:50] <apachelogger> yofel: you better, or else... :P
[19:50] <bambee> I hope I will be at the next one :) (I just need to improve my SO FRENCHY english)
[19:50] <yofel> ^^
[19:50] <bambee> ^^
[19:51] <yofel> well, me too, I'm better at writing english than speaking it (lack of practice :P)
[19:51] <apachelogger> oh, nevermind that, I also confuse the and le at times
[19:51] <apachelogger> :P
[20:00] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone else folloying the KDE Devel thread about Qt5 == KDE5?
[20:01] <yofel> I've only read the first few posts, need to catch up
[20:14]  * apachelogger hates them epic threads 
[20:37] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw, just so you know ballmer is written with the 2 kl
[20:37] <apachelogger> -k
[20:37] <apachelogger> kubotu: google ballmer microsoft
[20:37] <kubotu> Results for ballmer microsoft: 1. Steve Ballmer - Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/steve/default.aspx | 2. Microsoft at 2011 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES): http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/ | 3. Steve Ballmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer
[20:38] <apachelogger> there you goes
[21:35]  * Quintasan got immediately captured by his friends upon arrival
[21:36] <Quintasan> apachelogger: very late pong
[21:39] <Quintasan> afiestas: +1
[21:39] <Quintasan> rbelem: +1
[21:40] <Quintasan> for hacking neat stuff even on plane
[21:47]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[21:47] <Quintasan> See you in like 7 hours
[21:57]  * micahg waves to Quintasan 
[22:11] <bambee> for the final amarok 2.4.1 http://imageshack.us/f/189/screenck.png/  :D
[22:20] <yofel> nice desktop :)
[23:09] <afiestas> omg, budapest is a beatiful city, /me love it
[23:18] <valorie> shadeslayer: there was an offer of free beagleboards for GSoC students
[23:18] <valorie> let me find it for you
[23:21] <valorie> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dEgyVDlZWVEzUjhKbTllNWxSQlYxQWc6MQ
[23:22] <valorie> http://paste.kde.org/68137/ for the text of the email
[23:23] <valorie> shadeslayer: ^^^^