[13:19] <jbicha> I tried caribou on Fedora 15
[13:20] <AlanBell> jbicha: how was it?
[13:21] <jbicha> it uses a popup keyboard next to the textfield which kinda works except that sometimes it's covering important parts of the app
[13:21] <jbicha> so it doesn't work if you use Gnome Terminal fullscreen as it'd be in the way
[13:21] <jbicha> but if you "window" the terminal, it can work
[13:22] <jbicha> and it doesn't work in some apps like Firefox
[13:23] <jbicha> the included keyboard doesn't have any F- keys or the Shift key, but I suppose if you're using a mouse
[13:23] <jbicha> you could just browse to a menu and wouldn't be doing keyboard shortcuts like that
[13:24] <jbicha> it didn't appear to be integrated into Fedora's gdm login screen but maybe I wasn't doing it right
[13:25] <jbicha> *and the popup keyboard isn't movable, it just pops up where it wants to which I didn't like
[13:25] <jbicha> caribou's pretty new, only 0.2 so maybe these things will be worked out
[13:25] <AlanBell> yup
[13:26] <AlanBell> if I can get it installed I would like to try and see if it has archtectural benefits over onboard
[13:26] <AlanBell> not seeing it at the moment tbh
[13:26] <jbicha> I wasn't able to get it built from jhbuild nor have I seen a .deb for it
[13:26] <AlanBell> however the gnome a11y people seem to be betting on caribou as their official keyboard
[13:26] <AlanBell> I couldn't build it either
[13:26] <jbicha> maybe we could alien Fedora's rpm
[13:27] <AlanBell> the main developer was working on .deb files for it
[13:28] <AlanBell> Pendulum: I was thinking of doing a blog post about the four UDS sessions
[13:33] <Pendulum> AlanBell: go for it
[16:36] <AlanBell> Pendulum: ok, ready for you to check and publish
[16:38] <AlanBell> actually, hang, on, will add a bit about the invisible exhibition
[16:39] <Pendulum> k
[16:39] <Pendulum> will wait then
[16:45] <AlanBell> ok
[16:46] <AlanBell> just added picture and link to pleia2's blog
[16:50] <Pendulum> AlanBell: not sure if it's going to save because it says you're also editing, but the Invisible Exhibition trip was Wednesday, not Thursday
[16:50] <Pendulum> otherwise looks good
[16:50] <webczat> AlanBell: What about atk-wrapper?
[16:50] <Pendulum> AlanBell: so I'll exit and if you change what day, then it's good to go from my POV
[16:53] <cprofitt> Pendulum: you here?
[16:56] <Pendulum> cprofitt: yes
[16:56] <cprofitt> we are starting to gather our wiki pages for Summer of Documentation
[16:57] <cprofitt> if Accessibility has pages they want worked on we can add them to the list and the Documentation team (of UBT) will hopefully get them done over June and July
[16:58] <Pendulum> cprofitt: I'd suggest sending an e-mail to the accessibility list. I'm not 100% up to date to what got discussed at UDS (I wasn't there and by the time I got home from my holiday I was pretty ill so haven't had a chance to fully catch up)
[16:58]  * cprofitt nods
[16:58] <cprofitt> will do
[16:58] <Pendulum> that way if people have an idea of what definitely needs to get done, they can respond
[16:58] <cprofitt> sorry to hear you were ill
[17:02] <UndiFineD> it was discussed to get at least a chapter into the ubuntu manual
[17:03] <cprofitt> UndiFineD: did you get the quiche?
[17:03] <UndiFineD> its in the oven now
[17:03] <cprofitt> cool
[17:03] <Pendulum> mmm... quiche
[17:03] <UndiFineD> no not too cool,
[17:04] <cprofitt> I like quiche