| ikt | anyone around? | 01:56 |
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| head_victim | blahdeblah: sorry mate (re the ML) sometimes I don't realise when gmails hidden a bunch of text on me if I'm not paying close enough attention. I do usually try to prune. | 09:13 |
| blahdeblah | head_victim: No worries - just a friendly reminder :-) | 09:13 |
| head_victim | Yep, you get my other email? | 09:14 |
| blahdeblah | Yeah - just haven't had a chance to go through it yet | 09:14 |
| blahdeblah | I'm working on my HP networking certification | 09:14 |
| head_victim | Ah k, sweet. I'm trying to debate what I should study as my job hunting isn't going well so I've resigned myself to having to do more study to get a job I want. | 09:15 |
| blahdeblah | :-( | 09:15 |
| blahdeblah | If you want something in Linux admin, start with a RHCE, and add a uni degree after that as you're able. ;-) | 09:16 |
| head_victim | My work will pay for any university study I want and as I already have a degree it opens up graduate diplomas and stuff which is basically tafe cert IVs. So I've got to decide what sort of line I want to take. Management, analyst, investigation or IT. | 09:16 |
| head_victim | Nah work will only pay for uni stuffs and I'm a cheap bastard. | 09:17 |
| blahdeblah | RHCE you would likely be able to self-study. That's certainly my plan | 09:18 |
| head_victim | How costly is it, ballpark wise? | 09:18 |
| blahdeblah | Don't know | 09:18 |
| blahdeblah | Last i checked, exams were pretty exy - cheapest i saw was about $800-900. | 09:19 |
| blahdeblah | But i'll be going there next... :-\ | 09:19 |
| head_victim | So you'd want to make sure you're going to pass. | 09:19 |
| blahdeblah | I think you get the 2nd exam at a discount | 09:19 |
| head_victim | The only thing is I"m starting from well back on what most people are knowledge wise I think. | 09:19 |
| blahdeblah | But it's the only Linux certification i've ever seen advertised as a selection criteria, so you've pretty much gotta have it if you don't already have a track record with the company. | 09:20 |
| head_victim | Yep I was thinking if I went IT I'd do some sort of IT uni stuffs and if I liked it enough do some RH in my own time. | 09:21 |
| head_victim | I've got to think about money as well though that's the only reason I'm thinking management stuff. | 09:21 |
| head_victim | I'd basically work up towards an MBA if I was going down that route. Depends on how long I stay in my job as to how far down the track I got. | 09:22 |
| blahdeblah | yeah - sucks that you have to go down the MBA track just to get any further | 09:23 |
| blahdeblah | Like management is what we all want to do - NOT | 09:23 |
| head_victim | I actually don't mind it but I need to start earning real money not the crap I'm on | 09:24 |
| head_victim | If I can get that in IT then great, but at my current technical knowledge that would be hard | 09:26 |
| blahdeblah | head_victim: don't sell yourself short - with a grad. dip. and an entry-level industry cert., you'd be pretty employable | 09:27 |
| head_victim | blahdeblah: at what sort of pay grade though? | 09:27 |
| blahdeblah | no idea | 09:27 |
| blahdeblah | What sort of govt jobs have you been going for? | 09:27 |
| head_victim | Pretty much entry level stuff around 60 - 80k | 09:27 |
| blahdeblah | what are the classifications you've been looking at? | 09:28 |
| head_victim | AO4 - 6 | 09:28 |
| head_victim | Depending on if I've actually done it before and stuff. | 09:28 |
| head_victim | The problem is all that sort of stuff is usually filled in house | 09:28 |
| head_victim | AO3 is where you'd get a job pretty easy I think but that's far too much of a pay cut to even consider having a mortgage and all | 09:29 |
| blahdeblah | yep | 09:30 |
| blahdeblah | AO4-AO5 should be well within your reach though | 09:30 |
| head_victim | I decided I'd drop to AO4 if it meant getting off shiftwork. | 09:30 |
| blahdeblah | yep | 09:30 |
| * blahdeblah is glad he doesn't do after hours any more | 09:30 | |
| head_victim | I need to drop the extra bit of weight for health reasons and can't seem to do it on this stupid roster. | 09:31 |
| sagaci | head_victim: run to work | 09:31 |
| head_victim | So is 80k ish in IT achievable with grad dip? | 09:31 |
| head_victim | Or is that full degree sort of field? | 09:31 |
| blahdeblah | head_victim: You and me both, mate | 09:32 |
| blahdeblah | I don't think there's much difference between degree & grad dip | 09:32 |
| head_victim | Except the grad dip is half the time ;) | 09:33 |
| blahdeblah | Life experience counts for a lot, IMO | 09:33 |
| head_victim | I was tempted to do an IT grad dip and then look into some project management stuffs. | 09:33 |
| head_victim | That would be a good combo of management and tech | 09:33 |
| blahdeblah | Yeah | 09:33 |
| head_victim | Know any good project managers I could hit up for some basic questions? | 09:34 |
| blahdeblah | I've got a couple of friends who might be worth talking to. Let me drop them an email and see what they have to say... | 09:34 |
| head_victim | I'm not going to ask anything too in depth at this stage, just want to make sure it's what I'm tyhinking it really is. | 09:35 |
| head_victim | I appreciate the effort mate | 09:35 |
| blahdeblah | head_victim: Leave it with me | 09:35 |
| head_victim | Will do, and no huge screaming rush mate, I'm still pondering :) | 09:37 |
| Octatron | Greetings all | 09:38 |
| head_victim | Evening Octatron | 09:38 |
| === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci | ||
| head_victim | sagaci: I have to get up before 0430 now, running to work I may as well not go to bed ;) | 09:39 |
| sagaci | working tomorrow? | 09:40 |
| head_victim | Yep | 09:40 |
| Octatron | head_victim: did you get my email? | 09:40 |
| head_victim | Octatron: yep, had a look at it this morning at 0430 ;) | 09:40 |
| Octatron | head_victim: I could never do that, I'm so not a morning person | 09:43 |
| head_victim | Octatron: neither am I, hence working hard to find another job | 09:43 |
| sagaci | start an ubuntu-au type company | 09:48 |
| Octatron | Then you can get paid to do this :) | 09:50 |
| head_victim | Hah home loan = steady income required. Nice idea though | 09:51 |
| sagaci | head_victim: still up? | 10:14 |
| Octatron | sagaci: head_victim had to take off | 10:15 |
| sagaci | Octatron: what are you up to | 10:17 |
| Octatron | Lots of stuff, adjusting the wiki and looking for a tv media player and NAS that will work across a network. You? | 10:19 |
| sagaci | doing some translation | 10:20 |
| Octatron | translation, programming? | 10:21 |
| sagaci | no | 10:23 |
| sagaci | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty | 10:26 |
| Octatron | Ahh as in speaking language :P Cool | 10:31 |
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