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| Captainkrtek | hey geekosopher | 05:15 |
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| geekosopher | yes Captainkrtek | 05:32 |
| === CapKrtek|Netbook is now known as Captainkrtek | ||
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| UndiFineD | the key in some other language could look like ktrl | 12:34 |
| UndiFineD | or something totally different | 12:34 |
| Rocket2DMn | mdke, i'm still working on bug 478097, and i have the fixes available for the docbook -> html transformations (it's actually in our script, not docbook-xsl) | 15:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 478097 in ubuntu-docs "help.ubuntu.com claims to be XHTML 1.0 Transitional but is not" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/478097 | 15:57 |
| Rocket2DMn | that means i can push it to all stable branches, i'm just wondering if we should bother | 15:58 |
| Rocket2DMn | our static pages on h.u.c (index, legal, search) need to be fixed as well | 15:59 |
| Rocket2DMn | i could do them manually or use a generated page (made with the fixed xsl) and copy in the appropriate material | 15:59 |
| === udslogger is now known as apachelogger | ||
| jbicha | http://ubuntutour.org/ | 18:59 |
| Rocket2DMn | another guide eh? | 19:09 |
| jbicha | it looks like it's already been around long enough to be abandoned | 19:10 |
| jbicha | 4 weeks since the last commit | 19:10 |
| Rocket2DMn | it has a fairly large team on PL | 19:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | LP | 19:11 |
| UndiFineD | no not abaondonded, just low activity | 19:11 |
| jbicha | well it was advertised on OMGUbuntu last fall | 19:11 |
| UndiFineD | but it is a team full of documenters, so perhaps they would like to get involved | 19:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | you know ive never actually looked at omgubuntu | 19:14 |
| jbicha | I like the site mostly, I know some people who can't stand it | 19:15 |
| Rocket2DMn | what is it supposed to be exactly? | 19:15 |
| Rocket2DMn | looks like a news feed | 19:15 |
| jbicha | it's a Ubuntu news site, geared towards the newer or non-developer enthusiasts | 19:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | looks nice | 19:17 |
| Rocket2DMn | i dont really follow a lot of news with Ubuntu which is kind of a bad thing, so if i'm not active on the forums i miss a lot of things | 19:17 |
| jbicha | the guys running it are hoping to make a business out of it | 19:17 |
| jbicha | if you follow that site & planet ubuntu, you'll get most of the news | 19:18 |
| Rocket2DMn | yeah planet gets a lot of news thougjh, i dont have time to filter through it so i dont really look anymore | 19:18 |
| Rocket2DMn | most of it is stuff i dont care about | 19:18 |
| Rocket2DMn | hmmm, conky... | 19:19 |
| Rocket2DMn | i think its time i cleaned up my conky, it hasnt been touched since Feisty | 19:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | At UDS they were talking about bringing back the UWN | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: isnt that sorta obsolete considering omgubuntu? | 20:02 |
| jbicha | well some in the community don't like omgubuntu | 20:05 |
| jbicha | and UWN is supposedly for those who want a weekly summary of Ubuntu happenings instead of reading the planet & omg for themselves | 20:05 |
| jbicha | but it was taking 30 hr to produce the thing which is too much | 20:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: The issue that was brought up was relying on a commercial website for that. | 20:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: the turn from it was that UWN was going to get ressurected again. It's one of those "fun" issues that keeps cropping up in the FOSS world. | 20:09 |
| apachelogger | well, maintaining a weekly news for a project of our size will either require insane amount of time or cutting content | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | neither would be beneficial to the user | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | /s/user/reader | 20:10 |
| jbicha | it depends on how much work you need to do | 20:12 |
| jbicha | collecting 10-20 links isn't that difficult | 20:12 |
| jbicha | writing a summary of each adds more time | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | yeah, and I think the summary is the curcial part there | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | otherwise you could just as well use a news aggregator on the planet :) | 20:13 |
| jbicha | here's Fedora's version: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue | 20:19 |
| jbicha | I think UWN tries to cover too much stuff | 20:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | I guess the theory was having a condensed version of the planet along with other sources. | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | jbicha: well, ubuntu is vastly larger project than fedora | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | also the FWN do not seem very community | 20:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | Because I guess having 'Official' support of a commercial site isn't in line with what Ubunut Community/Canonical vision wants. | 20:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | I's about 60 hours of work a week to get the UWN running correctly. | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | nono, official is ubuntu.com, if there is absolutely worthwhile news it ends up there (or the other sites like kubuntu.org resprectively) | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | additionally to that you have semi-official community resources which would be the planet | 20:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | and UWN | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | now if UWN where to quote the planet it still would not be more official than any ubuntu member saying anything | 20:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | then you have commercial sites like omgubuntu | 20:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | very true | 20:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | By 'official' I was refering to community run | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | so claiming UWN should be official implies excluding the planet as possible resoruce | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: oh, yeah, well, in a way the omgubuntu people are also community | 20:24 |
| apachelogger | there is no guideline against community members making money with their contribution to the community | 20:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: Correct but, because it's commercial it has seperated itself slightly (According to them) | 20:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | That's according to omgubuntu. They don't concider themselves a community project. | 20:25 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: that does not change the accountability and validity of the information | 20:25 |
| jbicha | DarkwingDuck: what do you mean they don't consider themselves community? | 20:25 |
| jbicha | citation? | 20:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | Lemme find the email that Amber sent to us when we were working on UWN | 20:25 |
| apachelogger | oh, here is a daring argument: if you produce news weekly, it is not news anymore ;) | 20:26 |
| * apachelogger actually notes that he never read UWN for exactly that reason | 20:26 | |
| jbicha | I'd hesitate to call UWN official and trying to treat it like it is adds extra headache | 20:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | My mistake on the classifacation of 'official' | 20:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | I think what caused people to hesitate with OMG Ubuntu was the vollyball NSFW post | 20:31 |
| jbicha | and the legendary neckbeard post | 20:33 |
| * apachelogger was hoping for a "scandal: kubuntu switches to unity" post :/ | 20:33 | |
| DarkwingDuck | ROFL | 20:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: using jussi's screenshot as a post? | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | srsly, we were checking omgubuntu all the time :P | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: yeah | 20:34 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: THAT would have been funny, you still have that URL? | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/11/plasma-desktopgp1838.jpg\ | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | without the back slash obviously ^^ | 20:35 |
| jbicha | include a quote from Mark about all Ubuntu flavors to get the new interface since that's what Unity is all about, right? | 20:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | LOL | 20:35 |
| * DarkwingDuck debates | 20:36 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Did anyone send a anon tip to OMG Ubuntu about this? | 20:36 |
| jbicha | maybe an exception for Ubuntu Server | 20:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | I would hope so. | 20:36 |
| jbicha | somebody needs to port Unity to the command line ;-) | 20:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | LOL | 20:37 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: we were thinking about it, but since there is a bug in plasma that prevents me from doing this and at the same time hit major promo for plasma by actually providing a plasma tempalte to automagically roll an unity activity we did not do it | 20:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: works for me. Plus, why would we *want* Unity when Plasma is working so well. | 20:44 |
| * DarkwingDuck isn't sure he wants to rely on compiz for a DE | 20:45 | |
| apachelogger | we do not | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | some users do | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | well, they want unity's good looks | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | so I figured we could provide that, but you cannot make a vertical panel as the script API has a bug right now | 20:46 |
| DarkwingDuck | I don't know why you can have good looks with plasma... I have a nice wodden earthy feel on mine. http://imm.io/5E81 | 20:48 |
| DarkwingDuck | s/can/can't | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | gross | 20:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: You can make a vertical panel just fine. | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: not when using the script api | 20:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | Hmmz, I just added a panel and in the setting moved it vertical. | 20:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: But, i see what you mean. | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that works, but building a unity clone yourself sux | 20:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: Aye, | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: if you click on your cashew and select activities you can add new activities from template | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | using that and a working template you can get a unity clone in like 4 clicks | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | however the template does not work because of aforementioned bug | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | rather OT ^^ | 20:59 |
| jbicha | DarkwingDuck: the wood grains clash with each other | 21:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, I know jbicha... I've been playing around with ideas. | 21:08 |
| jbicha | haha | 21:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | This is my other setup (The one I use mostly) http://imm.io/5EnH | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: it is a good thing you are not deciding on the default artwork lineup for the ubuntu products :P | 21:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: Ehh, I'm a fan of dark. | 21:11 |
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