[00:26] <jtaylor> ^^^^^^^^^ in progress
[01:00] <jtaylor> -.- tahoe is a mess, fixing that bug uncovers 2 more regressions
[13:46] <ari-tczew> lucas__: does not need http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/merges.html update for oneiric?
[14:02] <stlsaint> hey folks im trying to setup using multiple pbuilders but i have hit a wall
[14:08] <stlsaint> anyone?
[14:09] <jtaylor> whats the problem?
[14:10] <stlsaint> im having a issue setting up the use of multiple pbuilder
[14:11] <arand> You have yet to describe the problem..
[14:12] <stlsaint> i have followed the wiki page on pbuilder but when i run command to build environment the distribution is still set to debian my host
[14:13] <stlsaint> from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Multiple pbuilders
[14:15] <stlsaint> i may be possibly running command wrong
[14:15] <stlsaint> sudo pbuilder create distribution=lucid or sudo pbuilder create DIST=lucid do not work
[14:15] <jtaylor> have you set DIST or have a changelog in the right location
[14:16] <jtaylor> sudo DIST=lucid pbuilder create
[14:16] <stlsaint> jtaylor: i tried that also and it still says wrong distribution
[14:18] <jbicha> you said your host is Debian? maybe that's part of the problem
[14:18] <stlsaint> http://paste.debian.net/116943/
[14:18] <stlsaint> jbicha: i thought the same but the debian wiki said the same as the pbuilder wiki on how to setup building ubuntu packages on debian and still the same result
[14:18] <jtaylor> does sudo preserve HOME in squeeze?
[14:19] <jtaylor> try setting home to your home directory too
[14:19] <stlsaint> jtaylor: sorry not following ya on that one
[14:19] <arand> stlsaint: Are you not meant to set the vars before running the pbuilder command, as described on the wiki?
[14:19] <jtaylor> sudo may not preserve the environment of your local user depending in the setting
[14:20] <jtaylor> => it will look into /root/ for the rc and not into your directory
[14:20] <jtaylor> sudo HOME=$HOME DIST=lucid pbuilder create
[14:20] <stlsaint> jtaylor: hrm, so i need to move or edit the pbuilderrc?
[14:20] <stlsaint> oh
[14:20] <stlsaint> arand: both ways work if i wanted to create a regular debian environment
[14:21] <jtaylor> sudo -H should also work
[14:21] <stlsaint> jtaylor: will that still place the tarball in the /var/cache/pbuilder dir?
[14:21] <jtaylor> yes
[14:22] <stlsaint> jtaylor: aye that worked, thanks, so does that mean i need to move my pbuilderrc?
[14:23] <jtaylor> either that, or use sudo -H or set sudo to preserve HOME
[14:24] <stlsaint> jtaylor: how would i set sudo to preserve HOME?
[14:25] <stlsaint> also would there be any side affects to moving the rrc? (why would the installation not automaticaly put the pbuilderrc in the right location of where it is looking??)
[14:25] <jtaylor> Use Defaults env_check = HOME in /etc/sudoers I think
[14:26] <jtaylor> s/Use //
[14:27] <stlsaint> hrm, the debian wiki said change that to this: Defaults        env_reset,env_keep="DIST ARCH"
[14:29] <jtaylor> env_chack should be safer
[14:30] <stlsaint> jtaylor: i edited and saved the build errored with an abort and when i try to re-edit sudoers i get: Error opening terminal: unknown.
[14:33] <jtaylor> still have env_reset in the line?
[14:34] <jtaylor> read man sudoers and man sudo for details
[14:37] <stlsaint> jtaylor: yea im locked out of my sudoers file
[14:38] <stlsaint> ha, some more strange stuff happening
[14:39] <stlsaint> http://paste.ubuntu.com/607416/
[14:40] <stlsaint> looking bad for me
[14:40] <jtaylor> probably TERM or SHELL not set
[14:41] <stlsaint> only thing i changed was the env_check=HOME line and then all this happened
[14:41] <jtaylor> did you replace the old one or just add it?
[14:41] <stlsaint> really strange with the root-clear thing
[14:41] <stlsaint> jtaylor: replaced the entry i added
[14:42] <stlsaint> it should still have the default stuff that was there minus the env_dist stuff from the debian wiki as i replaced that one part with the env_check part
[14:44] <stlsaint> is there a way to possibly export the output to a tty?
[15:16] <stlsaint> back :D
[15:16] <stlsaint> jtaylor: fixed the sudoers issue
[15:17] <stlsaint> but when i run the original command you gave of: sudo HOME=$HOME DIST=lucid pbuilder create it errors out and aborts
[15:17] <stlsaint> E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)
[15:17] <stlsaint> E: debootstrap failed
[15:18] <stlsaint> W: Aborting with an error
[15:29] <jtaylor> stlsaint: are you using the ubuntu keyring?
[15:32] <jtaylor> --debootstrapopts --keyring=..../ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[15:34] <stlsaint> that was configured in the pbuilderrc
[15:34] <stlsaint> i can show you mine if you want
[15:35] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: try it: sudo pbuilder create --distribution lucid --debootstrapopts "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg"
[15:35] <ari-tczew> or try sudo pbuilder-dist create lucid
[15:37] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: http://paste.debian.net/116951/
[15:38] <jtaylor> the mirror is wrong
[15:38] <stlsaint> i had to rebuild my base.tgz for some reason
[15:38] <jtaylor> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lucid
[15:38] <jtaylor> debian has no lucid
[15:39] <ari-tczew> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/Release
[15:40] <stlsaint> jtaylor: i know that much but i thought the pbuilderrc would sort that
[15:41] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: try it sudo pbuilder-dist create lucid --mirror ftp://http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --debootstrapopts "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg"
[15:41] <ari-tczew> errr
[15:41] <ari-tczew> sudo pbuilder-dist create lucid --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --debootstrapopts "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg"
[15:42] <stlsaint> my pbuilderrc: http://pastebin.com/rUNGUat9
[15:42] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: ok i will try
[15:44] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: minor error in that one, you put pbuilder-dist create lucid where it should be lucid instead of create
[15:44] <stlsaint> but i got ya
[15:45] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: http://paste.debian.net/116952/
[15:47] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: let's try to use only with mirror
[15:47] <ari-tczew> sudo pbuilder-dist lucid create --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ -
[15:47] <ari-tczew> without "-" at the end - err of copying
[15:47] <stlsaint> kk
[15:47] <jtaylor> your still using the wrong keyring
[15:47] <jtaylor> ubuntu archive is not signed with the debian key
[15:48] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: same error
[15:48] <stlsaint> so the key signing is causing the abort
[15:48] <stlsaint> ?
[15:48] <ari-tczew> jtaylor: ah right, again wrong copying
[15:49] <ari-tczew> sudo pbuilder-dist create lucid --mirror ftp://http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --debootstrapopts "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg"
[15:49] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: ^^
[15:49] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: kk, one sec
[15:51] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: E: Failed getting release file ftp://http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release
[15:51] <ari-tczew> wrrrrrrr
[15:51] <ari-tczew> sudo pbuilder-dist create lucid --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --debootstrapopts "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg"
[15:51] <ari-tczew> typo in url
[15:51] <jtaylor> ^^
[15:52] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: also you keep putting -dist create when its -dist lucid create ;)
[15:53] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: same as original error: E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)
[15:53] <stlsaint> E: debootstrap failed
[15:53] <stlsaint> W: Aborting with an error
[15:53] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: I prefer to use pbuilder-dist
[15:54] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: do you have installed ubuntu-keyring?
[15:54] <stlsaint> hrm, lemme check
[15:55] <stlsaint> honestly i probably dont
[15:55] <ari-tczew> apt-cache policy ubuntu-keyring
[15:56] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: no i do not
[15:56] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: install it and rerun command which I have you
[15:56] <ari-tczew> gave*
[15:59] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: whats the name for the keyring?
[15:59] <stlsaint> i tried ubuntu-keyring which did not work and a quick google wasnt helping
[16:00] <jtaylor> its not in debian
[16:00] <jtaylor> doanload it from launchpad
[16:01] <ari-tczew> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ubuntu-keyring
[16:02] <stlsaint> will do
[16:05] <jfi> Hello, is there somebody who can review the (very trivial) fix of #778415, and let me know if there is something wrong (both debdiff and LP tags)?
[16:07] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: seems to be running good now, still at retreiving packages point
[16:08] <jtaylor> useful tips: use an cacher to save download time (e.g. apt-cacher-ng) and eatmydata to reduce installation time
[16:09] <stlsaint> jtaylor: hrm, i head of that before but never got into it, i will surely take a look now, thanks
[16:33] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: so, does it work now?
[16:36] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: it is still getting packages but it seems to be working
[16:36] <ari-tczew> nice
[16:36] <stlsaint> yes thank you very much
[16:36] <stlsaint> im now working to get apt-cacher setup to prevent this long wait again
[16:37] <ari-tczew> np
[16:55] <c2tarun> is there any difference between network-manager-applet and network-manager-gnome?
[16:57] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: do you do multiple pbuilders?
[16:57] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: yes I do
[16:58] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: im asking because my different builds are now going into /root/pbuilder and im not sure why, (im sure its something with pbuilderrc again but i guess my bash-foo isnt up to par)
[16:59] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: do you use Debian?
[17:00] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: yes
[17:00] <ari-tczew> stlsaint: I use pbuilder-dist and it has got .tgz files in ~/pbuilder/
[17:01] <jtaylor> stlsaint: that can all be customized, read the manpage
[17:01] <stlsaint> ari-tczew: im used to them going in /var/cache/pbuilder which is why i wonder why they go now to /root/pbuilder
[17:02] <stlsaint> jtaylor: man pbuilder will show that?
[17:02] <jtaylor> the options to do so
[17:02] <stlsaint> kk, thanks
[17:03] <stlsaint> jtaylor: also i wont be able to use apt-cacher as i am on a WAN which i do not control the ipaddress
[17:03] <jtaylor> you can have a cacher on the local machine listinging on localhost
[17:04] <stlsaint> hrm, didnt see that in docs
[17:04] <stlsaint> good to know
[17:04] <jtaylor> just set the mirror to http://localhost:port/
[17:05] <stlsaint> oh ok
[17:05] <stlsaint> thanks
[17:05] <stlsaint> save me alot of resource
[17:07] <jtaylor> unfortunatly apt-cacher-ng does not support debdelta :(
[17:07] <stlsaint> bbiab