| AlanBell | 920 is quad core | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Seeker` | Azelphur: what have you got it clocked at? | 00:00 |
| Seeker` | Azelphur: also, link to the page? | 00:00 |
| AlanBell | http://www.hantslug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark | 00:00 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, 3.7, going for more | 00:01 |
| Azelphur | AlanBell, 4 cores with hyperthreading | 00:01 |
| AlanBell | yeah, 980 is hexacore (12 with hyperthreading) | 00:02 |
| Seeker` | Azelphur: gotta be a stable overclock though :P | 00:02 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 00:02 |
| Seeker` | I mean it cant be a "run for 5 mins and reset it" :P | 00:02 |
| * AlanBell decides not to overclock the server | 00:02 | |
| Seeker` | I want you using that overclock in 3 months time if you claim to beat my record :P | 00:02 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, yea, this is stable | 00:03 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, I have a very big radiator :) | 00:04 |
| Seeker` | Azelphur: liquid cooled? | 00:05 |
| Azelphur | yep | 00:05 |
| Seeker` | if you can't beat 4GHz you're doing it wrong :P | 00:08 |
| Seeker` | I'm on air cooling | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, yea I'm going to 4ghz now | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | it's scary :( | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, my BIOS says "According to Intel CPU SPEC, DIMMs with voltage setting over 1.65V may damage CPU permanantly!!" | 00:09 |
| Azelphur | scary settings are scary :o | 00:09 |
| Seeker` | Azelphur: well, its true | 00:11 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, still reasonably safe with decent cooling though right? :p | 00:11 |
| Azelphur | I had it up at 3.7 and it wasn't even going above 67.5C while running stress --cpu 8 | 00:12 |
| Seeker` | that voltage isn't about cooling | 00:12 |
| Seeker` | if you set the voltage too high ,the components can't handle it | 00:13 |
| Seeker` | breaks them down | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | I see | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | I should be alright with my hardware though right? | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | corsair dominator memory, sabertooth motherboard :p | 00:13 |
| Seeker` | You don't need to set the memory about 1.65V | 00:13 |
| Seeker` | *above | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/22106-core-i7-overclocking-guide-beginners.html#post66637 | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | this is the guide I'm following, it says 1.66 ;o | 00:14 |
| Seeker` | hmm | 00:14 |
| Seeker` | there might be a 1.657 or so option | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | it's a typing box, you type in it :p | 00:15 |
| Azelphur | http://ustream.tv/channel/Azelphur live streaming my bios screen xD | 00:15 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, think I should set it to 1.65? | 00:17 |
| Seeker` | memory overclocking makes so little difference, I'm not sure why you'd need to go out of spec by that much | 00:17 |
| Azelphur | I dunno, as I say I really know nothing about this xD | 00:18 |
| Azelphur | I'm just following the guide \o/ | 00:18 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, suggestions? :p | 00:22 |
| Seeker` | suggestions for what? | 00:25 |
| Azelphur | re 1.66 or 1.65 | 00:25 |
| Azelphur | I think staying at 1.65 sounds best just wondering if it breaks the overclock :p | 00:26 |
| Azelphur | i know my ram is designed for 1.65 | 00:26 |
| Seeker` | 1.65 shouldn't break the overclock | 00:27 |
| Seeker` | it depends on individual components too | 00:27 |
| Seeker` | slight differences in quality | 00:27 |
| Azelphur | ok :p | 00:28 |
| Azelphur | 1.65 it is then | 00:28 |
| * Azelphur crosses fingers | 00:28 | |
| Azelphur | seems to have not exploded \o/ | 00:29 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, I'm getting lower temps at 4 than I was at 3.7, haha | 00:32 |
| Azelphur | weird :D | 00:32 |
| Seeker` | give it time :P | 00:34 |
| Seeker` | It takes a few hours to be sure if it is reasonably stable | 00:34 |
| Azelphur | 63.5C *yawn* | 00:34 |
| Azelphur | pretty much the same temp I got at 3ghz | 00:34 |
| Azelphur | my cooling system just doesn't care, haha | 00:34 |
| Seeker` | I'm getting 45C atm | 00:35 |
| Seeker` | but it has throttled itself back to 2.4ghz atm | 00:35 |
| Seeker` | under load I don't usually see above 60 | 00:35 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, yea, I'm chilling out at 63 | 00:35 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`, if your watching the stream I can show you the cooling setup? :) | 00:36 |
| Seeker` | i'm not watching atm | 00:36 |
| Azelphur | Seeker`: only got it to 4ghz, couldn't get the 4.5ghz settings right, gonna try again tomorrow maybe :) | 01:50 |
| Seeker` | try for something between the two | 01:50 |
| Seeker` | 4.2 might be doable | 01:51 |
| Azelphur | yea, tomorrow I'll probably start with that | 01:51 |
| ball | 4 GHz is a practical reality on a POWER chip...and they're computationally stronger than x86. | 01:56 |
| ball | ...not the kind of thing you find in a PC though. | 01:56 |
| ball | Some POWER chips routinely ran at 5 GHz | 01:56 |
| Azelphur | POWER? | 01:57 |
| * ball nods | 01:57 | |
| ball | POWER6, POWER7 etc. | 01:57 |
| Azelphur | :P | 01:57 |
| Seeker` | 4GHz is a practical reality on modern intels too | 01:57 |
| Seeker` | and clock speed isn't directly equal to performance | 01:58 |
| ball | You're right about performance per MHz varying between chips and architectures | 01:59 |
| ball | POWER7 is a monster though. | 01:59 |
| * ball goes back to his kernel build | 04:17 | |
| MartijnVdS | Morning everyone! | 08:53 |
| popey | lo | 09:03 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:27 |
| daubers | Morning | 09:32 |
| daubers | Apparently ctrl+r doesn't do reverse lookup in xchat | 09:33 |
| danfish | ahoy hoy saveloys! | 09:36 |
| popey | mmmmm saveloy | 09:36 |
| popey | http://drool.popey.com/ | 09:37 |
| czajkowski | listadmin is my fav command | 09:37 |
| czajkowski | makes my life easier | 09:37 |
| czajkowski | sad | 09:37 |
| danfish | czajkowski: you need to get out more ;) | 09:38 |
| czajkowski | heading to Nokia in a wee bit | 09:38 |
| czajkowski | does that count | 09:38 |
| danfish | absolutely :) LUG meeting I presume? | 09:39 |
| danfish | hmm - to cancel dropbox account or not - http://bit.ly/kB8RB6 | 09:39 |
| ging | normally when people tell me i need to get out more lug meeting are the exact oposite of what they mean by getting out | 09:41 |
| popey | danfish: i uninstalled it last night | 09:41 |
| danfish | popey: I think I'll be doing the same and having a look at spideroak | 09:42 |
| daubers | Oh dear | 09:43 |
| danfish | daubers: please to be explaining? | 09:44 |
| daubers | danfish: Getting rid of dropbox is a bit of a pain | 09:45 |
| * daubers ponders setting up some kind of webdav syncy thing | 09:46 | |
| danfish | daubers: my thoughts as well - the only problem for me is that webdav on XP (at work) sucks | 09:47 |
| daubers | \o/ Don't deal with XP anymore | 09:47 |
| daubers | Pondering forking out to upgrade the missus' laptop to Win 7 so I can banish the XP demon forever | 09:48 |
| danfish | she won't go for ubuntu? | 09:48 |
| daubers | danfish: Uni stuff requires here to use MS Office | 09:48 |
| daubers | s/here/her | 09:49 |
| daubers | danfish: She's running maverick on her eeepc mind | 09:49 |
| daubers | danfish: Also, Civ 4 et al won't run on Ubuntu | 09:49 |
| * daubers may be forced back into Windows by OU stuff that starts in October | 09:50 | |
| danfish | why do our uni's which are supposed to be promoting academic endevour and freedom, insist on students running proprietary dross? | 09:51 |
| daubers | Maybe not! | 09:52 |
| daubers | "This course makes use of the optional Google Apps for Education account provided to all Open University students." | 09:52 |
| danfish | that's not too shoddy | 09:53 |
| daubers | also "You will need internet access and a computer. If you have purchased a new Windows computer since 2005 or an Apple Mac (OS X 10.4 or later) or Linux computer, it should meet your course computing requirements." | 09:53 |
| daubers | "or Linux computer" \o/ | 09:53 |
| danfish | \o/ what course are you doing? | 09:54 |
| daubers | http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/tu100.htm | 09:54 |
| danfish | that looks good, but I suspect you could graduate today :) | 09:56 |
| daubers | danfish: Maybe, but I suspect there's lots of bits I don't know I don't know :) Which is the point of doing it | 09:56 |
| daubers | danfish: Also.... I now need an android device so I can play with the android arduino things :) | 09:58 |
| danfish | android@home - very exciting that they chose arduino :) | 10:04 |
| danfish | daubers: nearer the time we should have a think about an oggcamp session | 10:06 |
| dutchie | daubers: i have an old san francisco and pulse lying around not doing anything... | 10:07 |
| dutchie | wonder how many people are getting confused by all of us having 7 letters and starting with d | 10:07 |
| danfish | hah - didn't notice that | 10:09 |
| dutchie | wonder whether it would be a good idea to upgrade my laptop to ubuntu 11.04 today | 10:11 |
| daubers | dutchie: Ooooooooh | 10:12 |
| dutchie | daubers: they are a bit battered, but fully operational iirc | 10:12 |
| daubers | can I steal one? | 10:12 |
| dutchie | oh, the sf is a bit more broken | 10:13 |
| dutchie | it doesn't recognise an sd card | 10:13 |
| dutchie | i think the pulse is ok | 10:13 |
| dutchie | you are welcome to have it for postage+beer or whatever | 10:14 |
| daubers | \o/ | 10:15 |
| daubers | How about postage + an original pre? | 10:15 |
| dutchie | deal | 10:16 |
| dutchie | it would appear to be network locked | 10:16 |
| daubers | To? | 10:16 |
| dutchie | t-mob, one would assume | 10:17 |
| daubers | Okies. I can probably get around that | 10:17 |
| dutchie | shall i clear off data and send it on monday then? | 10:18 |
| daubers | Yes please! | 10:19 |
| davmor2 | hey czajkowski | 10:20 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: ello | 10:22 |
| ali1234 | adk requires android 3.1 or 2.3.4 | 10:23 |
| ali1234 | before you all rush out and buy second hand android phones | 10:23 |
| === ocean_ is now known as Guest28127 | ||
| Guest28127 | hi guys, can any one help me with this issue? i am trying to install fglrx on ubuntu 10.10. its giving me an error message, the detaisl are here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/782424 | 10:40 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 782424 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "unable to install fglrx driver" [Undecided,New] | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:41 |
| dwatkins | hi folks | 10:42 |
| brobostigon | morning dwatkins | 10:43 |
| dwatkins | I have lots of paperwork to do today, I wish some institutions accepted electronic submissions. | 10:52 |
| hamitron | dwatkins: either or would be nice, yes | 10:53 |
| hamitron | :) | 10:53 |
| dwatkins | yeah, hamitron | 10:53 |
| dwatkins | I had to go to the DVLA office because the form got lost. | 10:53 |
| dwatkins | correction: one form was lost in the post, the other form went missing | 10:54 |
| hamitron | I love electronic services to make life easier/quicker, but I also like the manual method as backup | 10:54 |
| hamitron | :/ | 10:54 |
| dwatkins | agreed, hamitron | 10:55 |
| === thecoda_ is now known as thecoda | ||
| selinuxium | morning all | 11:08 |
| MartijnVdS | \o selinuxium | 11:08 |
| selinuxium | hey MartijnVdS :) | 11:10 |
| * MartijnVdS listens to: http://uk.7digital.com/artists/headless-heroes/ | 11:10 | |
| MartijnVdS | I have them all on vinyl \o/ | 11:10 |
| selinuxium | they sound cool :) | 11:18 |
| MartijnVdS | she has a beautiful voice | 11:20 |
| === ocean__ is now known as Guest57386 | ||
| Guest57386 | hi guys, i am not able to install fglrx on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, can any one help please | 11:22 |
| selinuxium | Hmm... just bought a hdmi cable for the laptop... under Natty I can't find the screen switcher app.... :/ | 11:23 |
| MartijnVdS | selinuxium: Top right (power) -> System settings | 11:31 |
| selinuxium | MartijnVdS, Cheers! didn't know that one! | 11:32 |
| MartijnVdS | It's not very obvious | 11:32 |
| MartijnVdS | you could search for the individual bits using the Unity thing | 11:33 |
| selinuxium | Plugged the hdmi cable in but it is not showing in monitors... | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | which card? | 11:33 |
| selinuxium | one mo.. | 11:33 |
| selinuxium | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9488 | 11:35 |
| selinuxium | ? | 11:35 |
| MartijnVdS | And which driver are you using? The fglrx one? | 11:35 |
| selinuxium | not sure.. | 11:35 |
| MartijnVdS | Because that one's a bit poo :) | 11:35 |
| MartijnVdS | well it has faster 3D, but bad support for multi-screen etc. | 11:35 |
| selinuxium | oh.. | 11:35 |
| * MartijnVdS has to go now, sorry | 11:35 | |
| MartijnVdS | !fglrx | 11:35 |
| lubotu3 | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 11:35 |
| selinuxium | ttfn MartijnVdS | 11:36 |
| selinuxium | CHeers | 11:36 |
| Seeker` | hihi | 12:06 |
| hcfd | Am I the only one experiencing trouble listing items on eBay using Ubuntu and chromium? | 12:13 |
| kvarley | hcfd: Have you tried a different browser to ensure it's chromiums fault and not something else? | 12:32 |
| hcfd | I ended up running firefox in a Windows XP VM I had open at the time. Not pointing the finger at chromium necessarily but I don't recall ever having issues with firefox in Ubuntu. | 12:35 |
| hcfd | I haven't gone to the trouble of isolating the cause/incompatibility. | 12:36 |
| Azelphur | what's the package I need to install for ATI proprietary drivers? | 12:54 |
| * Azelphur prods hamitron :p | 12:54 | |
| hamitron | fglrx? | 12:54 |
| Azelphur | that should have been obvious :D | 12:54 |
| hamitron | considering I am using vga connection, the image quality is great on it | 12:55 |
| hamitron | half tempted to try dvi | 12:55 |
| hamitron | :) | 12:55 |
| selinuxium | hamitron, want to use my hdmi port... fglrx... | 13:21 |
| hamitron | my monitor has no hdmi | 13:26 |
| hamitron | :/ | 13:26 |
| ali1234 | i just ordered 16gb of ram | 13:37 |
| ali1234 | so hopefully i won't run out any more | 13:38 |
| need_help | hi | 13:39 |
| need_help | i need some help plz | 13:39 |
| need_help | ubuntu doesn"t detecte mu usb disk | 13:40 |
| need_help | my* | 13:40 |
| need_help | any solution?! | 13:40 |
| dwatkins | did it work beforehand, need_help? | 13:40 |
| need_help | its working on vista | 13:40 |
| need_help | and dected when i use lsusb dommand | 13:41 |
| need_help | command* | 13:41 |
| dwatkins | does dmesg show anything after you connect it, need_help? | 13:41 |
| dwatkins | I have to go, sorry. | 13:42 |
| need_help | it's my first experience with ubuntu so i can't really follow | 13:42 |
| need_help | but i can send u the repport | 13:42 |
| need_help | any solution !! | 13:45 |
| popey | need_help: #ubuntu is probably a better place to ask | 13:56 |
| === ocean_ is now known as Guest40434 | ||
| Guest40434 | hi guys can some one help me to make my vga switcheooo work | 14:09 |
| Azelphur | installed the latest ati driver from the .run file, now X won't start. http://paste.ubuntu.com/607410/ suggestions? :( | 14:18 |
| ging | tell other people not to install the lastest ati driver from the .run file | 14:20 |
| Azelphur | ging, besides that :D | 14:22 |
| ali1234 | why done that? | 14:23 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, because I needed the latest drivers? | 14:23 |
| ali1234 | oh, ati | 14:23 |
| Azelphur | lol | 14:23 |
| ali1234 | their old drivers never work on the new cards | 14:24 |
| ali1234 | i dunno why | 14:24 |
| ali1234 | actually i do, it's because ati sucks | 14:24 |
| Azelphur | lol | 14:24 |
| Azelphur | they may suck but they also have faster integer math than nvidia :p | 14:24 |
| ali1234 | yes | 14:25 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, so any suggestions re my X not starting? :( | 14:25 |
| ali1234 | install windows | 14:26 |
| Azelphur | noooooes | 14:26 |
| Azelphur | other people have the 6990 working on Linux | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Does the one that gets installed through Jockey not do it? | 14:26 |
| gord | why would you need faster integer maths on a gpu? | 14:27 |
| gord | just wondering | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | gord: A lot of the pixel level stuff doesn't have to be float | 14:27 |
| Azelphur | penguin42, it does, it has horrible performance and kept on causing opencl errors :( | 14:27 |
| gord | however, float is faster, so it is | 14:27 |
| Azelphur | gord, bitcoin :D | 14:27 |
| ali1234 | gord: for bitcoin | 14:27 |
| gord | ah | 14:27 |
| Azelphur | lol | 14:27 |
| ali1234 | ati gpus completely blow away anything from nvidia for this, according to the benchmarks i read | 14:28 |
| Azelphur | ^ exactly | 14:28 |
| Azelphur | by about 2x | 14:28 |
| gord | makes sense, but i'm still buying gpus for graphical performance, i'm silly like that ;) | 14:28 |
| ali1234 | supposedly using a ati gpu is actually cost effective in that the bitcoins are worth more than the video card and the electricity after about 6 months | 14:28 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 14:28 |
| ali1234 | of course once everyone figures this out it won't be any more | 14:28 |
| penguin42 | cost effective for what? | 14:29 |
| gord | one day i'll be able to tell my kids "i was in the irc channel that hoarded all the bitcoins, causing the great bitcoin wars of 2020" | 14:29 |
| penguin42 | gord: And they'll say 'Daddy - what was irc ?' | 14:30 |
| gord | i'm fairly sure irc will outlive us all | 14:30 |
| Azelphur | haha | 14:30 |
| penguin42 | it may do, it might be we'll talk of it in fondness in the way grey beards of today speak fondly of fidonet | 14:31 |
| Azelphur | what about my X not starting though? :( | 14:31 |
| Azelphur | I need my X to do that starting thing. | 14:31 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Remove that driver, nuke your X config, get back to teh open source driver working and then throw jockey at it to put the ubuntu supported package in | 14:31 |
| ali1234 | fidonet is a network, irc is a protocol | 14:31 |
| Azelphur | penguin42, open driver doesn't support my card | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | and the ubuntu supported package is extremely slow | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: I'm not sure that was true back 20 years ago - yes it was a network, but I think most of the internode protocols it used were developed on the back of it | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | it can't even do compiz cube properly | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | on a 6990 xD | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | with jockey driver, my 8800GT performs better than my 6990 | 14:33 |
| hamitron | I'd wait till you get it working, before judging | 14:34 |
| hamitron | :) | 14:34 |
| Azelphur | hamitron, not judging? | 14:34 |
| hamitron | comparing I mean | 14:35 |
| Azelphur | hamitron, I'm not comparing, read the rest of the conversation. | 14:36 |
| * penguin42 reads about Bitcoin | 14:38 | |
| Azelphur | nobody seems to want to help me get X running on the latest ATI driver :( | 14:39 |
| hamitron | I'd install another OS alongside, so you can try things and risk messing things | 14:40 |
| hamitron | then try all the latest stuff from AMD | 14:41 |
| Azelphur | I've already installed all the latest stuff from AMD XD | 14:41 |
| hamitron | yeh | 14:41 |
| Azelphur | I can risk messing things I have separate /home | 14:41 |
| hamitron | but I mean on a clean system, and a supported OS | 14:42 |
| hamitron | then you can rule out hardware problems | 14:42 |
| Azelphur | I doubt a hardware problem makes the driver not work :p | 14:43 |
| Azelphur | on day 1 xD | 14:43 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: So that log you posted is a seg in the drvier you got - either it doesn't like the version of the X server it's used against or it's just buggy | 14:43 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Being a closed driver there is nothing that can be done | 14:43 |
| Azelphur | I see | 14:44 |
| hamitron | !info xorg | 14:45 |
| lubotu3 | xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 (natty), package size 1 kB, installed size 44 kB | 14:45 |
| hamitron | according to the release notes, the driver should work on Xorg 7.6 | 14:46 |
| hamitron | the latest anyway | 14:46 |
| ali1234 | from log: X.Org X Server 1.10.1, module = compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.84.60 | 14:47 |
| ali1234 | so basically looks like you need 1.5 | 14:48 |
| ali1234 | i find it interesting that the crash involves pthreads somehow | 14:50 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, 1.5 what? | 14:52 |
| ali1234 | xorg | 14:52 |
| Azelphur | isn't xorg at 7.6 now? | 14:52 |
| ali1234 | abi version | 14:52 |
| hamitron | xserver? | 14:52 |
| hamitron | !info xserver | 14:52 |
| lubotu3 | Package xserver does not exist in natty | 14:52 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, would that be in xorg edgers? | 14:53 |
| ali1234 | no probably not, it's an old version | 14:53 |
| hamitron | couldn't building it from the .sh script fix it all? | 14:53 |
| ali1234 | maybe | 14:53 |
| ali1234 | what exactly do you get in the .bin file? | 14:54 |
| Azelphur | .bin file? | 14:54 |
| ali1234 | yeah you said you downloaded a bin file? | 14:54 |
| Azelphur | the amd drivers? they are .run :p | 14:54 |
| ali1234 | oh. well, same thing | 14:54 |
| Azelphur | I don't know exactly what's in them though | 14:54 |
| hamitron | it has a nice gui to build ubuntu packages | 14:55 |
| hamitron | :) | 14:55 |
| hamitron | I was reasonably impressed with it | 14:55 |
| ali1234 | tbh it looks like all the modules are right | 14:56 |
| ali1234 | i suspect something nasty is going on with the dual gpu and threads | 14:56 |
| Azelphur | \o/ | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | Is confused by how bitcoin privacy - if the ID of each transaction is public and the ID is what you identifiy yourself as then can't you effectively collect a mapping that lets you work who is who? | 14:56 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, edgers seems to package fglrx, so maybe the solution is to just go onto the edgers repo | 14:56 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: no, you can make as many public ids as you want | 14:57 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: perhaps... edgers never worked for me though | 14:57 |
| * penguin42 runs edgers open drivers on ---> machine | 14:57 | |
| Guest40434 | ali1234, could u give me some hints about how to make my ATI/intel switchable graphics make work on ubuntu 10.10 please | 14:58 |
| ali1234 | Guest40434: no, no idea | 14:58 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, haha, I'm already on edgers for issues I had with my gtx 570 | 14:59 |
| Azelphur | fun \o/ | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | that may be the problem then | 14:59 |
| * Azelphur ppa-purges it | 15:00 | |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: did you try to load unity when starting X? | 15:02 |
| Azelphur | nah I'm using classic | 15:03 |
| penguin42 | that error looks pretty early on in the X server | 15:03 |
| ali1234 | according to some forum i just read, manually specifying busid can help | 15:04 |
| Azelphur | I see :p | 15:04 |
| ali1234 | it also looks like it does appear as two cards on pci | 15:05 |
| Azelphur | yea, the 6990 does I think | 15:05 |
| ali1234 | so it could be that manual busid makes it only use one of the gpus, avoiding the thread issue | 15:06 |
| Azelphur | good scheme | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | sounds bad | 15:06 |
| Azelphur | bitcoin miners actually see it as 2 separate GPUs, have to run 2 minors | 15:06 |
| Azelphur | miners* | 15:06 |
| ali1234 | lol minors | 15:06 |
| RaycisCharles | Does anybody prefer Unity (its current implementation) over Gnome 3? | 15:06 |
| Azelphur | haha :D | 15:07 |
| ali1234 | RaycisCharles: yes me | 15:07 |
| hamitron | RaycisCharles: yes | 15:07 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, interestingly when I did run the 2 miners after a while the miner on the first card would spam errors about unexpected opencl behaviour | 15:07 |
| Azelphur | and chant "hardware problem?" at me :( | 15:08 |
| ali1234 | on the ati card? | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | yea | 15:08 |
| ali1234 | so you had it working before? | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | on the really old natty drivers yea | 15:08 |
| ali1234 | why not just use that? | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | really bad performance + errorspam = time to upgrade | 15:08 |
| ali1234 | i highly doubt it makes a difference for opencl | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | I was hoping to use it as a desktop card too | 15:09 |
| ali1234 | i would put it in a old motherboard and throw it in a cupboard until it's paid for itself | 15:09 |
| ali1234 | maybe by the the drivers work properly | 15:09 |
| hamitron | ATI Catalyst™ 11.4 Update Driver (8.841) are needed for the SDK | 15:09 |
| hamitron | for reference | 15:10 |
| Azelphur | :p | 15:10 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, depending on profitability I may build a dedicated miner | 15:10 |
| * hamitron grabs Azelphur's tongue | 15:10 | |
| ali1234 | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?24303-Common-theme-lately-fglrx-segfault | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | ^ look familiar? | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, very :) | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | did you reboot after switching driver? | 15:13 |
| * Azelphur is letting disk check complete since I havn't done one in a while :p | 15:13 | |
| Azelphur | yes | 15:13 |
| ali1234 | seeing more forum posts suggesting it's a 64 bit problem | 15:15 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, busid is already set, so no dice :( | 15:16 |
| Azelphur | gah, 64bit problem :( | 15:16 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, is there any way for me to load the driver at the command line without X running? | 15:16 |
| ali1234 | no? | 15:16 |
| Azelphur | the miners don't seem to see the card unless X is running | 15:16 |
| ali1234 | not possible | 15:17 |
| Azelphur | :( | 15:17 |
| ali1234 | not until we get wayland drivers anyway | 15:17 |
| Azelphur | that's weird, would have thought you could run opencl without a GUI | 15:17 |
| Azelphur | seems like the sort of thing people would want to do | 15:17 |
| ali1234 | not with proprietary drivers | 15:17 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 15:17 |
| ali1234 | so there's three things to try | 15:18 |
| Azelphur | I only counted 1? o.O | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | well you need to make sure you have all the right kernel modules and stuff | 15:20 |
| Azelphur | I might just try the 11.3 driver see if that fixes it | 15:20 |
| ali1234 | worth a try | 15:21 |
| RaycisCharles | Is there a way to introduce an App Store style window of authentication for installing packages? | 15:43 |
| RaycisCharles | I'd like to enter a password and not have to re-enter for each subsequent software install for the next 15 minutes or so. | 15:44 |
| penguin42 | RaycisCharles: Try something like gksudo synaptic & | 15:54 |
| RaycisCharles | Eh? | 16:01 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, done a fresh install of 32bit \o/ | 16:42 |
| ali1234 | does it work? | 16:43 |
| Azelphur | same issue with the miner though :( | 16:43 |
| ali1234 | is it faster? | 16:43 |
| Azelphur | I havn't updated the graphics driver yet | 16:43 |
| Azelphur | just the jockey version, so slowness and miner errors | 16:43 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, what's the recommended way to install the latest driver? | 16:44 |
| Azelphur | everyone shouted at me for using the .run :P | 16:44 |
| ali1234 | use jockey | 16:44 |
| Azelphur | I have used jockey, results are miner errors and slowness? | 16:45 |
| Azelphur | the version of the driver in jockey isn't the newest I think? | 16:45 |
| Azelphur | the driver seems to have 2 different version numbers just to make life so much easier. | 16:45 |
| Azelphur | yea, the jockey version is old | 16:46 |
| Azelphur | I think I can make it build packages though o.O | 16:47 |
| hamitron | the GUI is simple | 16:48 |
| Azelphur | yep, packages built \o/ | 16:49 |
| hamitron | dvd-ram disks are ace | 16:50 |
| hamitron | why have I not used them before? ;/ | 16:50 |
| gord | why would you? | 16:50 |
| hamitron | erm | 16:50 |
| hamitron | the got a fancy pattern on them? | 16:50 |
| hamitron | they* | 16:50 |
| hamitron | :D | 16:50 |
| gord | ;) just don't see the use myself | 16:51 |
| hamitron | like a portable filesystem | 16:51 |
| hamitron | at least, I get that impression | 16:51 |
| gord | riiight, so in a world of cheep usb pen drives, how is that useful? | 16:51 |
| hamitron | I'm always lacking usb ports tbh | 16:52 |
| Azelphur | riiiight, so in a world of cheap usb hubs, how is that a problem? | 16:52 |
| Azelphur | :p | 16:52 |
| hamitron | hubs are a pain | 16:52 |
| gord | i'm lacking actual dvd drive readers more than usb ports :) | 16:52 |
| Azelphur | ^ | 16:52 |
| Azelphur | I actually removed my DVD drive a month or so again | 16:53 |
| Azelphur | useless power drain was useless | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | i nearly bought a bluray burner earlier | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | decided not to though | 16:53 |
| hamitron | I am tempted with bluray now | 16:53 |
| gord | i was in windows the other day and i clicked on D: by accident i guess, the dvd drive popped out, scared the crap out of me | 16:53 |
| hamitron | prices are lower | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | 128GB per disc, what can possibly go wrong? | 16:53 |
| hamitron | 128Gb? | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | on BDXL | 16:53 |
| ali1234 | you can't buy the discs outside japan yet | 16:53 |
| hamitron | oh | 16:54 |
| ali1234 | but the writer is £100 | 16:54 |
| hamitron | I was looking at 50Gb RW ones | 16:54 |
| hamitron | :) | 16:54 |
| gord | you can't use BDXL in regular bluray drives either | 16:54 |
| ali1234 | who cares? | 16:54 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, that's interesting, I just got the hardware problem spam from the second card this time | 16:54 |
| gord | people who want to use the disks in regular bluray drives i would assume | 16:54 |
| ali1234 | you can't use them in dvd players or cdrom drives either | 16:54 |
| penguin42 | how random write are those drives? | 16:54 |
| ali1234 | anyway i decided against it | 16:55 |
| hamitron | 128Gb would be very useful | 16:56 |
| hamitron | :) | 16:56 |
| hamitron | I felt 50Gb was doable, but still hard work | 16:56 |
| * hamitron sighs | 16:58 | |
| hamitron | dvd-ram is slow | 16:58 |
| hamitron | didn't realise | 16:59 |
| ali1234 | all optical media is slow for writing | 16:59 |
| hamitron | but at least buying these 5 dvd-ram for 3 quid, saved me 5 quid delivery | 16:59 |
| oly | hi, anyone on here got any recommendations on a sub £300 pound video camera that works nicely with linux ? | 17:00 |
| hamitron | these feel slow by dvd writing standards | 17:00 |
| hamitron | :/ | 17:00 |
| ali1234 | well yes | 17:00 |
| ali1234 | rewritable is always slower as well | 17:00 |
| hamitron | by those too | 17:00 |
| hamitron | 2Gb is taking 30 mins | 17:00 |
| hamitron | I suppose I don't normally watch them either :D | 17:01 |
| popey | oly: kodak sx3 | 17:02 |
| hamitron | gah | 17:03 |
| hamitron | ali1234: gonna buy another hdd | 17:03 |
| hamitron | cba with this | 17:03 |
| popey | oly: i have a zi8 but i think that's discontinued, the sx3 is the next one up | 17:04 |
| oly | cheers popey will check it out | 17:08 |
| oly | we where thinking of a sony one but i know what sony are like with file formats :) | 17:08 |
| popey | i can send you a sample file from my zi8 if that helps? | 17:10 |
| oly | maybe, i cant actually find the sx3 i can find the zi8 for about £80 | 17:12 |
| oly | girlfriend wants it to video ferrets mainly so needs to hand fast movement well | 17:13 |
| popey | sorry, zx3 | 17:13 |
| popey | it does 60fps 720p | 17:13 |
| popey | Anyone on 11.04 with Unity fancy confirming bug 782701 please? | 17:14 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 782701 in dash (Ubuntu) "Cant paste commands in the dash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/782701 | 17:14 |
| oly | ah yeah i can found that a sample may be good, got a bit more i can spend than that, | 17:14 |
| oly | my first thought though is it looks like a phone video camera :p ie has a small lens and does nto let in much light | 17:15 |
| popey | yeah, thats true | 17:15 |
| popey | its not great in low light | 17:15 |
| oly | popey, i get something different it pastes but the result is unicode :p | 17:19 |
| oly | so i get a box with the usual wierd box with numbers in it | 17:19 |
| oly | could | 17:19 |
| oly | have you got a page your copying from ? | 17:20 |
| oly | could be its copying it in the pages encoding and not translating perhaps ? | 17:20 |
| selinuxium | hi all | 17:27 |
| selinuxium | !fglrx | 17:27 |
| lubotu3 | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 17:27 |
| popey | oly: I'm copying from a terminal | 17:32 |
| oly | huh that actually does the same | 17:35 |
| oly | ls -la copied from a terminal results in square box 0016 | 17:36 |
| bennie123 | hey all | 17:37 |
| selinuxium | Any natty hdmi users out there? I cant even seem to get my HDMI to work at all... :/ | 17:55 |
| bigcalm | popey: on phone with 150. Initial response is 'NO'. Said you had it, why can't I? They are checking... | 18:10 |
| bigcalm | popey: now they don't have the information to hand and will need to give me a call back within the next 2 hours. Grrr. Why do I get the feeling I'm about to lose my discount? | 18:14 |
| hamitron | pizza! | 18:28 |
| helpme | hello! can someone help me please? i am a complete begginer to ubuntu. i have the 10.10(maverick) live cd. i installed it and upgraded it to 11.04 (natty). i have HP vs 17e monitor which supports resolution upto 1280X1024 Pixels only. after i upgraded, the computer restarted and i got an error saying- " Change Resoultion settings to 1280X1024, input out of range" i guess the default resoultion of natty is higher than my monitor capa | 18:32 |
| helpme | of the monitor to fix this | 18:33 |
| helpme | please help! | 18:33 |
| popey | bigcalm: :( | 18:47 |
| popey | bigcalm: or worse, you don't get it and I get my discount revoked :) | 18:47 |
| popey | which is worse :) | 18:47 |
| hamitron | hehe | 18:47 |
| bigcalm | popey: I'm wondering if you forgot to add a question mark to your last line :P | 18:50 |
| bigcalm | popey: I haven't given your name (yet) | 18:51 |
| popey | http://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-846&y=64&z=398&zoom=-1 | 18:55 |
| popey | thats new! | 18:55 |
| popey | Just stumbled upon it | 18:55 |
| popey | looks like the great wall of china | 18:55 |
| popey | bigcalm: i can give you the name of the person i have dealt with via email if that helps? | 18:55 |
| popey | she is very good, will help during work hours | 18:55 |
| bigcalm | Cheers :) | 18:56 |
| popey | ping me on monday for it | 18:56 |
| popey | i dont have it to hand | 18:56 |
| bigcalm | Okie | 18:57 |
| bigcalm | That looks like a wall I started in a single player map | 18:57 |
| bigcalm | Are the black blocks obsidian? | 18:57 |
| popey | dunno i suspect just not known by the mapping software | 19:01 |
| bigcalm | Aha | 19:02 |
| bigcalm | I was a lot of black blocks in the castle as well | 19:03 |
| ali1234 | could be sandstone | 19:06 |
| popey | the pyramid is sandstone though, that shows up | 19:06 |
| ali1234 | cobble halftiles maybe? | 19:06 |
| popey | i should have looked when I was there | 19:07 |
| popey | wonder who made it | 19:07 |
| popey | not you then? :) | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | no | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | Humm. Natty doesn't tell me when I have capslock activated. Previous versions did | 19:27 |
| bigcalm | For some reason, Dell decided that indicator lights were old fashioned when they built my laptop | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | it does in the screensaver | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | do you mean gdm? | 19:28 |
| Seeker` | popey: thats my wall | 19:29 |
| popey | heh | 19:29 |
| Seeker` | black blocks are stone steps | 19:30 |
| popey | ahh | 19:30 |
| Seeker` | popey: you ever use the /give command? | 19:35 |
| popey | yeah | 19:35 |
| popey | alan@hatar:/home/minecraft/minecraft$ grep give server.log | grep -ic cjo20 | 19:36 |
| popey | 188 | 19:36 |
| Seeker` | :D:D | 19:36 |
| popey | popey = 230 | 19:36 |
| bigcalm | Me? | 19:36 |
| popey | 110 | 19:37 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 19:37 |
| popey | ali1234: =53 | 19:37 |
| bigcalm | A lot of that 110 was when we were building the 1st set of minecart tracks | 19:37 |
| popey | alan@hatar:/home/minecraft/minecraft$ grep give server.log | grep bigcalm | grep -ic 66 | 19:38 |
| bigcalm | Recently I've just got bored and have been blowing up large plots of sand with tnt :( | 19:38 |
| popey | 64 | 19:38 |
| popey | indeed! | 19:38 |
| popey | i love the massive castle | 19:38 |
| popey | no idea whose it is | 19:38 |
| bigcalm | It is indeed cool | 19:38 |
| Seeker` | JGJones | 19:38 |
| popey | oh is it? | 19:38 |
| Seeker` | thats what he said | 19:39 |
| Seeker` | bah, obsidian is a pain | 19:39 |
| popey | Bah! | 19:41 |
| popey | Just looked at facebook momentarily and saw a Who spoiler | 19:41 |
| * popey goes to make pimms and pizza | 19:42 | |
| Seeker` | popey: I think it was a very good episode | 19:42 |
| Seeker` | wont say anything more than that though | 19:43 |
| hamitron | I still not watched last weeks | 19:43 |
| hamitron | :/ | 19:43 |
| hamitron | got them both recorded | 19:43 |
| bigcalm | So far disapointed with the new series of dw. Haven't seen today's ep just yet though | 19:44 |
| ali1234 | i thought it was good. haven't watched todays yet tho | 19:44 |
| bigcalm | Waiting for VM to call me at 8pm before I do anything fun with my evening | 19:44 |
| hamitron | the first 2 I've enjoyed | 19:45 |
| popey | I probably wont get to watch it until after Eurovision | 19:45 |
| ali1234 | last series felt like an annoying kids show | 19:45 |
| hamitron | but I do feel they are kinda more crazy than normal :) | 19:45 |
| ali1234 | this series has some proper drama in it | 19:45 |
| popey | it is a kids show :) | 19:45 |
| ali1234 | it should be more than a kids show | 19:45 |
| popey | <- kid | 19:45 |
| hamitron | it is? | 19:45 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 19:45 |
| popey | it is | 19:45 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 19:45 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 19:45 |
| popey | I dont care though, I enjoy it | 19:45 |
| ali1234 | just cos it's for kids doesn't mean it has to be morkish and trite | 19:45 |
| bigcalm | Torch Wood was the 'grown ups' version of dw | 19:45 |
| popey | The Doctor Who Podcast is quite good | 19:46 |
| popey | they're knowledgeable about the whole history/canon of Who | 19:46 |
| bigcalm | Will get around to listening to it at some point | 19:46 |
| ali1234 | torchwood is just a kids show with swearing and nudity, makes no sense | 19:46 |
| hamitron | I just feel this new series is maybe too "tough" for a new viewer to get into | 19:46 |
| popey | yeah, never got on with Torchwood | 19:46 |
| bigcalm | Too welsh? | 19:46 |
| bigcalm | >:D | 19:46 |
| popey | but then I dont really like anything RTD has ever done | 19:46 |
| ali1234 | just cos it's for adults doesn't mean it has to be vulgar | 19:46 |
| popey | too "gay" I think | 19:46 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 19:47 |
| hamitron | RTD? | 19:47 |
| popey | Russell T Davis | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | I love the bad guy's name is nice this week :) </spoiler> | 19:47 |
| bigcalm | I'm passing time by watching all of ZeroPunctuation's videos from day 0. Slagging of games is fun | 19:47 |
| * bigcalm leaves here until dw has been watched | 19:48 | |
| bigcalm | :( | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: zeropunctuation \o/ | 19:48 |
| popey | yeah, me too | 19:48 |
| popey | ttfn | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pD0inuVLUs | 19:49 |
| Myrtti | YAYYYYY Eurovision song contest \o/ | 20:15 |
| bigcalm | Who is hosting it? | 20:16 |
| Myrtti | Germany | 20:16 |
| gord | i couldn't get the regular troupe of people i get together to watch eurovision with together :( | 20:16 |
| Myrtti | Finnish BC is displaying some of the tweets with the finnish eurovision hashtag on teletext subtitles :-D | 20:21 |
| * oimon is a eurovision widow tonight | 20:21 | |
| jibadeeha | eurovision is cool | 20:22 |
| hamitron | o.O | 20:24 |
| wintellect | Denmark are the best so far | 20:26 |
| oimon | in other news..anyone read this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/14/imac_hard_drive_replacement_woes/ | 20:28 |
| oimon | anyone don't wanna watch eurovision, bbc click is just coming on now | 20:32 |
| gord | anyone that wants to customise a laptop, really isn't buying a mac anyway | 20:32 |
| penguin42 | gord: Replacing drives isn't unusual though | 20:34 |
| gord | oh a mac it is... | 20:35 |
| oimon | i wonder how apple open the stuff up without destroying : i was given an ibook with dodgy mobo (couldn't boot) - i couldn't boot it to run DBAN before ebaying it, so i had to remove the hard drive. i ended up destroying my torx drivers and the whole machine. and this is from someone with 15 years experience of PC hardware | 20:35 |
| MartijnVdS | Lesson: don't buy apple, or look up the service manual on apple.com first | 20:37 |
| gord | wow... have you guys seen what amarok looks like these days? i mean... erm... which bit is the bit that plays my music? http://amarok.kde.org/files/Amarok2.4.1.png | 20:38 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: I saw another image of it with overlapping text and mismatched colours | 20:38 |
| gord | i promise to stop complaining about banshee, after trying out the windows music players just to play music whilst i play video games. and seing amarok? we have it gooooooooooooooooooooooodd | 20:39 |
| oimon | gord: it's hideous IMO, i recently switched to clementine from banshee, it's what amarok should have been | 20:39 |
| gord | ah, that looks more like what i remember amarok was | 20:40 |
| gord | although, bit too much like a spreadsheet for me | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | I was never a KDE user, so I don't know old-Amarok | 20:40 |
| oimon | it was great - but in clementine , it lives on | 20:41 |
| MartijnVdS | I actually don't mind banshee | 20:41 |
| oimon | i like the option of having file tree view | 20:41 |
| MartijnVdS | except for the crashing it sometimes does | 20:41 |
| oimon | the cover manager on clementine is fantastic too | 20:41 |
| oimon | (banshee doesn't explain why it doesn't find the covers) | 20:42 |
| oimon | wow..http://pixlr.com/editor/ | 20:43 |
| gord | banshee is fine, its just that it could be so much greater if its video support actually worked, and if its queuing stuff made any sense whatsoever | 20:43 |
| jibadeeha | i still like rhythmbox | 20:46 |
| gord | right now i'll queue up a track thinking "Hey i really want to listen to this track but leave it in shuffle mode", then it plays that track, shuffles, plays that track again... shuffle. plays that track >:( and on and on | 20:46 |
| yothsoggoth | banshee seemed to lag every time I skipped a song when shuffle was on | 20:48 |
| AlanBell | where did per-application audio output selection go? | 20:51 |
| BigRedS | Oooh, that might be another natty feature | 20:51 |
| AlanBell | want banshee to use the speakers and skype/mumble to use the polycom communicator | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | I can see per-application volume settings, but there used to be a button dropdown thing to choose output I think | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | works great if I install pavucontrol | 21:05 |
| lazarus_ | hi | 22:22 |
| BigRedS | hi | 22:24 |
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