[00:00] 920 is quad core [00:00] Azelphur: what have you got it clocked at? [00:00] Azelphur: also, link to the page? [00:00] http://www.hantslug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark [00:01] Seeker`, 3.7, going for more [00:01] AlanBell, 4 cores with hyperthreading [00:02] yeah, 980 is hexacore (12 with hyperthreading) [00:02] Azelphur: gotta be a stable overclock though :P [00:02] indeed [00:02] I mean it cant be a "run for 5 mins and reset it" :P [00:02] * AlanBell decides not to overclock the server [00:02] I want you using that overclock in 3 months time if you claim to beat my record :P [00:03] Seeker`, yea, this is stable [00:04] Seeker`, I have a very big radiator :) [00:05] Azelphur: liquid cooled? [00:05] yep [00:08] if you can't beat 4GHz you're doing it wrong :P [00:08] I'm on air cooling [00:08] Seeker`, yea I'm going to 4ghz now [00:08] it's scary :( [00:09] Seeker`, my BIOS says "According to Intel CPU SPEC, DIMMs with voltage setting over 1.65V may damage CPU permanantly!!" [00:09] scary settings are scary :o [00:11] Azelphur: well, its true [00:11] Seeker`, still reasonably safe with decent cooling though right? :p [00:12] I had it up at 3.7 and it wasn't even going above 67.5C while running stress --cpu 8 [00:12] that voltage isn't about cooling [00:13] if you set the voltage too high ,the components can't handle it [00:13] breaks them down [00:13] I see [00:13] I should be alright with my hardware though right? [00:13] corsair dominator memory, sabertooth motherboard :p [00:13] You don't need to set the memory about 1.65V [00:13] *above [00:13] http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/22106-core-i7-overclocking-guide-beginners.html#post66637 [00:14] this is the guide I'm following, it says 1.66 ;o [00:14] hmm [00:14] there might be a 1.657 or so option [00:15] it's a typing box, you type in it :p [00:15] http://ustream.tv/channel/Azelphur live streaming my bios screen xD [00:17] Seeker`, think I should set it to 1.65? [00:17] memory overclocking makes so little difference, I'm not sure why you'd need to go out of spec by that much [00:18] I dunno, as I say I really know nothing about this xD [00:18] I'm just following the guide \o/ [00:22] Seeker`, suggestions? :p [00:25] suggestions for what? [00:25] re 1.66 or 1.65 [00:26] I think staying at 1.65 sounds best just wondering if it breaks the overclock :p [00:26] i know my ram is designed for 1.65 [00:27] 1.65 shouldn't break the overclock [00:27] it depends on individual components too [00:27] slight differences in quality [00:28] ok :p [00:28] 1.65 it is then [00:28] * Azelphur crosses fingers [00:29] seems to have not exploded \o/ [00:32] Seeker`, I'm getting lower temps at 4 than I was at 3.7, haha [00:32] weird :D [00:34] give it time :P [00:34] It takes a few hours to be sure if it is reasonably stable [00:34] 63.5C *yawn* [00:34] pretty much the same temp I got at 3ghz [00:34] my cooling system just doesn't care, haha [00:35] I'm getting 45C atm [00:35] but it has throttled itself back to 2.4ghz atm [00:35] under load I don't usually see above 60 [00:35] Seeker`, yea, I'm chilling out at 63 [00:36] Seeker`, if your watching the stream I can show you the cooling setup? :) [00:36] i'm not watching atm [01:50] Seeker`: only got it to 4ghz, couldn't get the 4.5ghz settings right, gonna try again tomorrow maybe :) [01:50] try for something between the two [01:51] 4.2 might be doable [01:51] yea, tomorrow I'll probably start with that [01:56] 4 GHz is a practical reality on a POWER chip...and they're computationally stronger than x86. [01:56] ...not the kind of thing you find in a PC though. [01:56] Some POWER chips routinely ran at 5 GHz [01:57] POWER? [01:57] * ball nods [01:57] POWER6, POWER7 etc. [01:57] :P [01:57] 4GHz is a practical reality on modern intels too [01:58] and clock speed isn't directly equal to performance [01:59] You're right about performance per MHz varying between chips and architectures [01:59] POWER7 is a monster though. [04:17] * ball goes back to his kernel build [08:53] Morning everyone! [09:03] lo [09:27] aloha [09:32] Morning [09:33] Apparently ctrl+r doesn't do reverse lookup in xchat [09:36] ahoy hoy saveloys! [09:36] mmmmm saveloy [09:37] http://drool.popey.com/ [09:37] listadmin is my fav command [09:37] makes my life easier [09:37] sad [09:38] czajkowski: you need to get out more ;) [09:38] heading to Nokia in a wee bit [09:38] does that count [09:39] absolutely :) LUG meeting I presume? [09:39] hmm - to cancel dropbox account or not - http://bit.ly/kB8RB6 [09:41] normally when people tell me i need to get out more lug meeting are the exact oposite of what they mean by getting out [09:41] danfish: i uninstalled it last night [09:42] popey: I think I'll be doing the same and having a look at spideroak [09:43] Oh dear [09:44] daubers: please to be explaining? [09:45] danfish: Getting rid of dropbox is a bit of a pain [09:46] * daubers ponders setting up some kind of webdav syncy thing [09:47] daubers: my thoughts as well - the only problem for me is that webdav on XP (at work) sucks [09:47] \o/ Don't deal with XP anymore [09:48] Pondering forking out to upgrade the missus' laptop to Win 7 so I can banish the XP demon forever [09:48] she won't go for ubuntu? [09:48] danfish: Uni stuff requires here to use MS Office [09:49] s/here/her [09:49] danfish: She's running maverick on her eeepc mind [09:49] danfish: Also, Civ 4 et al won't run on Ubuntu [09:50] * daubers may be forced back into Windows by OU stuff that starts in October [09:51] why do our uni's which are supposed to be promoting academic endevour and freedom, insist on students running proprietary dross? [09:52] Maybe not! [09:52] "This course makes use of the optional Google Apps for Education account provided to all Open University students." [09:53] that's not too shoddy [09:53] also "You will need internet access and a computer. If you have purchased a new Windows computer since 2005 or an Apple Mac (OS X 10.4 or later) or Linux computer, it should meet your course computing requirements." [09:53] "or Linux computer" \o/ [09:54] \o/ what course are you doing? [09:54] http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/tu100.htm [09:56] that looks good, but I suspect you could graduate today :) [09:56] danfish: Maybe, but I suspect there's lots of bits I don't know I don't know :) Which is the point of doing it [09:58] danfish: Also.... I now need an android device so I can play with the android arduino things :) [10:04] android@home - very exciting that they chose arduino :) [10:06] daubers: nearer the time we should have a think about an oggcamp session [10:07] daubers: i have an old san francisco and pulse lying around not doing anything... [10:07] wonder how many people are getting confused by all of us having 7 letters and starting with d [10:09] hah - didn't notice that [10:11] wonder whether it would be a good idea to upgrade my laptop to ubuntu 11.04 today [10:12] dutchie: Ooooooooh [10:12] daubers: they are a bit battered, but fully operational iirc [10:12] can I steal one? [10:13] oh, the sf is a bit more broken [10:13] it doesn't recognise an sd card [10:13] i think the pulse is ok [10:14] you are welcome to have it for postage+beer or whatever [10:15] \o/ [10:15] How about postage + an original pre? [10:16] deal [10:16] it would appear to be network locked [10:16] To? [10:17] t-mob, one would assume [10:17] Okies. I can probably get around that [10:18] shall i clear off data and send it on monday then? [10:19] Yes please! [10:20] hey czajkowski [10:22] davmor2: ello [10:23] adk requires android 3.1 or 2.3.4 [10:23] before you all rush out and buy second hand android phones === ocean_ is now known as Guest28127 [10:40] hi guys, can any one help me with this issue? i am trying to install fglrx on ubuntu 10.10. its giving me an error message, the detaisl are here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/782424 [10:40] Ubuntu bug 782424 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "unable to install fglrx driver" [Undecided,New] [10:41] good morning everyone, [10:42] hi folks [10:43] morning dwatkins [10:52] I have lots of paperwork to do today, I wish some institutions accepted electronic submissions. [10:53] dwatkins: either or would be nice, yes [10:53] :) [10:53] yeah, hamitron [10:53] I had to go to the DVLA office because the form got lost. [10:54] correction: one form was lost in the post, the other form went missing [10:54] I love electronic services to make life easier/quicker, but I also like the manual method as backup [10:54] :/ [10:55] agreed, hamitron === thecoda_ is now known as thecoda [11:08] morning all [11:08] \o selinuxium [11:10] hey MartijnVdS :) [11:10] * MartijnVdS listens to: http://uk.7digital.com/artists/headless-heroes/ [11:10] I have them all on vinyl \o/ [11:18] they sound cool :) [11:20] she has a beautiful voice === ocean__ is now known as Guest57386 [11:22] hi guys, i am not able to install fglrx on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, can any one help please [11:23] Hmm... just bought a hdmi cable for the laptop... under Natty I can't find the screen switcher app.... :/ [11:31] selinuxium: Top right (power) -> System settings [11:32] MartijnVdS, Cheers! didn't know that one! [11:32] It's not very obvious [11:33] you could search for the individual bits using the Unity thing [11:33] Plugged the hdmi cable in but it is not showing in monitors... [11:33] which card? [11:33] one mo.. [11:35] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9488 [11:35] ? [11:35] And which driver are you using? The fglrx one? [11:35] not sure.. [11:35] Because that one's a bit poo :) [11:35] well it has faster 3D, but bad support for multi-screen etc. [11:35] oh.. [11:35] * MartijnVdS has to go now, sorry [11:35] !fglrx [11:35] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [11:36] ttfn MartijnVdS [11:36] CHeers [12:06] hihi [12:13] Am I the only one experiencing trouble listing items on eBay using Ubuntu and chromium? [12:32] hcfd: Have you tried a different browser to ensure it's chromiums fault and not something else? [12:35] I ended up running firefox in a Windows XP VM I had open at the time. Not pointing the finger at chromium necessarily but I don't recall ever having issues with firefox in Ubuntu. [12:36] I haven't gone to the trouble of isolating the cause/incompatibility. [12:54] what's the package I need to install for ATI proprietary drivers? [12:54] * Azelphur prods hamitron :p [12:54] fglrx? [12:54] that should have been obvious :D [12:55] considering I am using vga connection, the image quality is great on it [12:55] half tempted to try dvi [12:55] :) [13:21] hamitron, want to use my hdmi port... fglrx... [13:26] my monitor has no hdmi [13:26] :/ [13:37] i just ordered 16gb of ram [13:38] so hopefully i won't run out any more [13:39] hi [13:39] i need some help plz [13:40] ubuntu doesn"t detecte mu usb disk [13:40] my* [13:40] any solution?! [13:40] did it work beforehand, need_help? [13:40] its working on vista [13:41] and dected when i use lsusb dommand [13:41] command* [13:41] does dmesg show anything after you connect it, need_help? [13:42] I have to go, sorry. [13:42] it's my first experience with ubuntu so i can't really follow [13:42] but i can send u the repport [13:45] any solution !! [13:56] need_help: #ubuntu is probably a better place to ask === ocean_ is now known as Guest40434 [14:09] hi guys can some one help me to make my vga switcheooo work [14:18] installed the latest ati driver from the .run file, now X won't start. http://paste.ubuntu.com/607410/ suggestions? :( [14:20] tell other people not to install the lastest ati driver from the .run file [14:22] ging, besides that :D [14:23] why done that? [14:23] ali1234, because I needed the latest drivers? [14:23] oh, ati [14:23] lol [14:24] their old drivers never work on the new cards [14:24] i dunno why [14:24] actually i do, it's because ati sucks [14:24] lol [14:24] they may suck but they also have faster integer math than nvidia :p [14:25] yes [14:25] ali1234, so any suggestions re my X not starting? :( [14:26] install windows [14:26] noooooes [14:26] other people have the 6990 working on Linux [14:26] Azelphur: Does the one that gets installed through Jockey not do it? [14:27] why would you need faster integer maths on a gpu? [14:27] just wondering [14:27] gord: A lot of the pixel level stuff doesn't have to be float [14:27] penguin42, it does, it has horrible performance and kept on causing opencl errors :( [14:27] however, float is faster, so it is [14:27] gord, bitcoin :D [14:27] gord: for bitcoin [14:27] ah [14:27] lol [14:28] ati gpus completely blow away anything from nvidia for this, according to the benchmarks i read [14:28] ^ exactly [14:28] by about 2x [14:28] makes sense, but i'm still buying gpus for graphical performance, i'm silly like that ;) [14:28] supposedly using a ati gpu is actually cost effective in that the bitcoins are worth more than the video card and the electricity after about 6 months [14:28] hehe [14:28] of course once everyone figures this out it won't be any more [14:29] cost effective for what? [14:29] one day i'll be able to tell my kids "i was in the irc channel that hoarded all the bitcoins, causing the great bitcoin wars of 2020" [14:30] gord: And they'll say 'Daddy - what was irc ?' [14:30] i'm fairly sure irc will outlive us all [14:30] haha [14:31] it may do, it might be we'll talk of it in fondness in the way grey beards of today speak fondly of fidonet [14:31] what about my X not starting though? :( [14:31] I need my X to do that starting thing. [14:31] Azelphur: Remove that driver, nuke your X config, get back to teh open source driver working and then throw jockey at it to put the ubuntu supported package in [14:31] fidonet is a network, irc is a protocol [14:32] penguin42, open driver doesn't support my card [14:32] and the ubuntu supported package is extremely slow [14:32] ali1234: I'm not sure that was true back 20 years ago - yes it was a network, but I think most of the internode protocols it used were developed on the back of it [14:32] it can't even do compiz cube properly [14:32] on a 6990 xD [14:33] with jockey driver, my 8800GT performs better than my 6990 [14:34] I'd wait till you get it working, before judging [14:34] :) [14:34] hamitron, not judging? [14:35] comparing I mean [14:36] hamitron, I'm not comparing, read the rest of the conversation. [14:38] * penguin42 reads about Bitcoin [14:39] nobody seems to want to help me get X running on the latest ATI driver :( [14:40] I'd install another OS alongside, so you can try things and risk messing things [14:41] then try all the latest stuff from AMD [14:41] I've already installed all the latest stuff from AMD XD [14:41] yeh [14:41] I can risk messing things I have separate /home [14:42] but I mean on a clean system, and a supported OS [14:42] then you can rule out hardware problems [14:43] I doubt a hardware problem makes the driver not work :p [14:43] on day 1 xD [14:43] Azelphur: So that log you posted is a seg in the drvier you got - either it doesn't like the version of the X server it's used against or it's just buggy [14:43] Azelphur: Being a closed driver there is nothing that can be done [14:44] I see [14:45] !info xorg [14:45] xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.6+4ubuntu3 (natty), package size 1 kB, installed size 44 kB [14:46] according to the release notes, the driver should work on Xorg 7.6 [14:46] the latest anyway [14:47] from log: X.Org X Server 1.10.1, module = compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.84.60 [14:48] so basically looks like you need 1.5 [14:50] i find it interesting that the crash involves pthreads somehow [14:52] ali1234, 1.5 what? [14:52] xorg [14:52] isn't xorg at 7.6 now? [14:52] abi version [14:52] xserver? [14:52] !info xserver [14:52] Package xserver does not exist in natty [14:53] ali1234, would that be in xorg edgers? [14:53] no probably not, it's an old version [14:53] couldn't building it from the .sh script fix it all? [14:53] maybe [14:54] what exactly do you get in the .bin file? [14:54] .bin file? [14:54] yeah you said you downloaded a bin file? [14:54] the amd drivers? they are .run :p [14:54] oh. well, same thing [14:54] I don't know exactly what's in them though [14:55] it has a nice gui to build ubuntu packages [14:55] :) [14:55] I was reasonably impressed with it [14:56] tbh it looks like all the modules are right [14:56] i suspect something nasty is going on with the dual gpu and threads [14:56] \o/ [14:56] Is confused by how bitcoin privacy - if the ID of each transaction is public and the ID is what you identifiy yourself as then can't you effectively collect a mapping that lets you work who is who? [14:56] ali1234, edgers seems to package fglrx, so maybe the solution is to just go onto the edgers repo [14:57] penguin42: no, you can make as many public ids as you want [14:57] Azelphur: perhaps... edgers never worked for me though [14:57] * penguin42 runs edgers open drivers on ---> machine [14:58] ali1234, could u give me some hints about how to make my ATI/intel switchable graphics make work on ubuntu 10.10 please [14:58] Guest40434: no, no idea [14:59] ali1234, haha, I'm already on edgers for issues I had with my gtx 570 [14:59] fun \o/ [14:59] that may be the problem then [15:00] * Azelphur ppa-purges it [15:02] Azelphur: did you try to load unity when starting X? [15:03] nah I'm using classic [15:03] that error looks pretty early on in the X server [15:04] according to some forum i just read, manually specifying busid can help [15:04] I see :p [15:05] it also looks like it does appear as two cards on pci [15:05] yea, the 6990 does I think [15:06] so it could be that manual busid makes it only use one of the gpus, avoiding the thread issue [15:06] good scheme [15:06] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx [15:06] sounds bad [15:06] bitcoin miners actually see it as 2 separate GPUs, have to run 2 minors [15:06] miners* [15:06] lol minors [15:06] Does anybody prefer Unity (its current implementation) over Gnome 3? [15:07] haha :D [15:07] RaycisCharles: yes me [15:07] RaycisCharles: yes [15:07] ali1234, interestingly when I did run the 2 miners after a while the miner on the first card would spam errors about unexpected opencl behaviour [15:08] and chant "hardware problem?" at me :( [15:08] on the ati card? [15:08] yea [15:08] so you had it working before? [15:08] on the really old natty drivers yea [15:08] why not just use that? [15:08] really bad performance + errorspam = time to upgrade [15:08] i highly doubt it makes a difference for opencl [15:09] I was hoping to use it as a desktop card too [15:09] i would put it in a old motherboard and throw it in a cupboard until it's paid for itself [15:09] maybe by the the drivers work properly [15:09] ATI Catalyst™ 11.4 Update Driver (8.841) are needed for the SDK [15:10] for reference [15:10] :p [15:10] ali1234, depending on profitability I may build a dedicated miner [15:10] * hamitron grabs Azelphur's tongue [15:11] http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?24303-Common-theme-lately-fglrx-segfault [15:11] ^ look familiar? [15:12] ali1234, very :) [15:13] did you reboot after switching driver? [15:13] * Azelphur is letting disk check complete since I havn't done one in a while :p [15:13] yes [15:15] seeing more forum posts suggesting it's a 64 bit problem [15:16] ali1234, busid is already set, so no dice :( [15:16] gah, 64bit problem :( [15:16] ali1234, is there any way for me to load the driver at the command line without X running? [15:16] no? [15:16] the miners don't seem to see the card unless X is running [15:17] not possible [15:17] :( [15:17] not until we get wayland drivers anyway [15:17] that's weird, would have thought you could run opencl without a GUI [15:17] seems like the sort of thing people would want to do [15:17] not with proprietary drivers [15:17] hehe [15:18] so there's three things to try [15:18] I only counted 1? o.O [15:20] well you need to make sure you have all the right kernel modules and stuff [15:20] I might just try the 11.3 driver see if that fixes it [15:21] worth a try [15:43] Is there a way to introduce an App Store style window of authentication for installing packages? [15:44] I'd like to enter a password and not have to re-enter for each subsequent software install for the next 15 minutes or so. [15:54] RaycisCharles: Try something like gksudo synaptic & [16:01] Eh? [16:42] ali1234, done a fresh install of 32bit \o/ [16:43] does it work? [16:43] same issue with the miner though :( [16:43] is it faster? [16:43] I havn't updated the graphics driver yet [16:43] just the jockey version, so slowness and miner errors [16:44] ali1234, what's the recommended way to install the latest driver? [16:44] everyone shouted at me for using the .run :P [16:44] use jockey [16:45] I have used jockey, results are miner errors and slowness? [16:45] the version of the driver in jockey isn't the newest I think? [16:45] the driver seems to have 2 different version numbers just to make life so much easier. [16:46] yea, the jockey version is old [16:47] I think I can make it build packages though o.O [16:48] the GUI is simple [16:49] yep, packages built \o/ [16:50] dvd-ram disks are ace [16:50] why have I not used them before? ;/ [16:50] why would you? [16:50] erm [16:50] the got a fancy pattern on them? [16:50] they* [16:50] :D [16:51] ;) just don't see the use myself [16:51] like a portable filesystem [16:51] at least, I get that impression [16:51] riiight, so in a world of cheep usb pen drives, how is that useful? [16:52] I'm always lacking usb ports tbh [16:52] riiiight, so in a world of cheap usb hubs, how is that a problem? [16:52] :p [16:52] hubs are a pain [16:52] i'm lacking actual dvd drive readers more than usb ports :) [16:52] ^ [16:53] I actually removed my DVD drive a month or so again [16:53] useless power drain was useless [16:53] i nearly bought a bluray burner earlier [16:53] decided not to though [16:53] I am tempted with bluray now [16:53] i was in windows the other day and i clicked on D: by accident i guess, the dvd drive popped out, scared the crap out of me [16:53] prices are lower [16:53] 128GB per disc, what can possibly go wrong? [16:53] 128Gb? [16:53] on BDXL [16:53] you can't buy the discs outside japan yet [16:54] oh [16:54] but the writer is £100 [16:54] I was looking at 50Gb RW ones [16:54] :) [16:54] you can't use BDXL in regular bluray drives either [16:54] who cares? [16:54] ali1234, that's interesting, I just got the hardware problem spam from the second card this time [16:54] people who want to use the disks in regular bluray drives i would assume [16:54] you can't use them in dvd players or cdrom drives either [16:54] how random write are those drives? [16:55] anyway i decided against it [16:56] 128Gb would be very useful [16:56] :) [16:56] I felt 50Gb was doable, but still hard work [16:58] * hamitron sighs [16:58] dvd-ram is slow [16:59] didn't realise [16:59] all optical media is slow for writing [16:59] but at least buying these 5 dvd-ram for 3 quid, saved me 5 quid delivery [17:00] hi, anyone on here got any recommendations on a sub £300 pound video camera that works nicely with linux ? [17:00] these feel slow by dvd writing standards [17:00] :/ [17:00] well yes [17:00] rewritable is always slower as well [17:00] by those too [17:00] 2Gb is taking 30 mins [17:01] I suppose I don't normally watch them either :D [17:02] oly: kodak sx3 [17:03] gah [17:03] ali1234: gonna buy another hdd [17:03] cba with this [17:04] oly: i have a zi8 but i think that's discontinued, the sx3 is the next one up [17:08] cheers popey will check it out [17:08] we where thinking of a sony one but i know what sony are like with file formats :) [17:10] i can send you a sample file from my zi8 if that helps? [17:12] maybe, i cant actually find the sx3 i can find the zi8 for about £80 [17:13] girlfriend wants it to video ferrets mainly so needs to hand fast movement well [17:13] sorry, zx3 [17:13] it does 60fps 720p [17:14] Anyone on 11.04 with Unity fancy confirming bug 782701 please? [17:14] Launchpad bug 782701 in dash (Ubuntu) "Cant paste commands in the dash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/782701 [17:14] ah yeah i can found that a sample may be good, got a bit more i can spend than that, [17:15] my first thought though is it looks like a phone video camera :p ie has a small lens and does nto let in much light [17:15] yeah, thats true [17:15] its not great in low light [17:19] popey, i get something different it pastes but the result is unicode :p [17:19] so i get a box with the usual wierd box with numbers in it [17:19] could [17:20] have you got a page your copying from ? [17:20] could be its copying it in the pages encoding and not translating perhaps ? [17:27] hi all [17:27] !fglrx [17:27] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [17:32] oly: I'm copying from a terminal [17:35] huh that actually does the same [17:36] ls -la copied from a terminal results in square box 0016 [17:37] hey all [17:55] Any natty hdmi users out there? I cant even seem to get my HDMI to work at all... :/ [18:10] popey: on phone with 150. Initial response is 'NO'. Said you had it, why can't I? They are checking... [18:14] popey: now they don't have the information to hand and will need to give me a call back within the next 2 hours. Grrr. Why do I get the feeling I'm about to lose my discount? [18:28] pizza! [18:32] hello! can someone help me please? i am a complete begginer to ubuntu. i have the 10.10(maverick) live cd. i installed it and upgraded it to 11.04 (natty). i have HP vs 17e monitor which supports resolution upto 1280X1024 Pixels only. after i upgraded, the computer restarted and i got an error saying- " Change Resoultion settings to 1280X1024, input out of range" i guess the default resoultion of natty is higher than my monitor capa [18:33] of the monitor to fix this [18:33] please help! [18:47] bigcalm: :( [18:47] bigcalm: or worse, you don't get it and I get my discount revoked :) [18:47] which is worse :) [18:47] hehe [18:50] popey: I'm wondering if you forgot to add a question mark to your last line :P [18:51] popey: I haven't given your name (yet) [18:55] http://popey.com/minecraft/day/?x=-846&y=64&z=398&zoom=-1 [18:55] thats new! [18:55] Just stumbled upon it [18:55] looks like the great wall of china [18:55] bigcalm: i can give you the name of the person i have dealt with via email if that helps? [18:55] she is very good, will help during work hours [18:56] Cheers :) [18:56] ping me on monday for it [18:56] i dont have it to hand [18:57] Okie [18:57] That looks like a wall I started in a single player map [18:57] Are the black blocks obsidian? [19:01] dunno i suspect just not known by the mapping software [19:02] Aha [19:03] I was a lot of black blocks in the castle as well [19:06] could be sandstone [19:06] the pyramid is sandstone though, that shows up [19:06] cobble halftiles maybe? [19:07] i should have looked when I was there [19:07] wonder who made it [19:07] not you then? :) [19:08] no [19:27] Humm. Natty doesn't tell me when I have capslock activated. Previous versions did [19:28] For some reason, Dell decided that indicator lights were old fashioned when they built my laptop [19:28] it does in the screensaver [19:28] do you mean gdm? [19:29] popey: thats my wall [19:29] heh [19:30] black blocks are stone steps [19:30] ahh [19:35] popey: you ever use the /give command? [19:35] yeah [19:36] alan@hatar:/home/minecraft/minecraft$ grep give server.log | grep -ic cjo20 [19:36] 188 [19:36] :D:D [19:36] popey = 230 [19:36] Me? [19:37] 110 [19:37] \o/ [19:37] ali1234: =53 [19:37] A lot of that 110 was when we were building the 1st set of minecart tracks [19:38] alan@hatar:/home/minecraft/minecraft$ grep give server.log | grep bigcalm | grep -ic 66 [19:38] Recently I've just got bored and have been blowing up large plots of sand with tnt :( [19:38] 64 [19:38] indeed! [19:38] i love the massive castle [19:38] no idea whose it is [19:38] It is indeed cool [19:38] JGJones [19:38] oh is it? [19:39] thats what he said [19:39] bah, obsidian is a pain [19:41] Bah! [19:41] Just looked at facebook momentarily and saw a Who spoiler [19:42] * popey goes to make pimms and pizza [19:42] popey: I think it was a very good episode [19:43] wont say anything more than that though [19:43] I still not watched last weeks [19:43] :/ [19:43] got them both recorded [19:44] So far disapointed with the new series of dw. Haven't seen today's ep just yet though [19:44] i thought it was good. haven't watched todays yet tho [19:44] Waiting for VM to call me at 8pm before I do anything fun with my evening [19:45] the first 2 I've enjoyed [19:45] I probably wont get to watch it until after Eurovision [19:45] last series felt like an annoying kids show [19:45] but I do feel they are kinda more crazy than normal :) [19:45] this series has some proper drama in it [19:45] it is a kids show :) [19:45] it should be more than a kids show [19:45] <- kid [19:45] it is? [19:45] ;/ [19:45] it is [19:45] \o/ [19:45] Yes [19:45] I dont care though, I enjoy it [19:45] just cos it's for kids doesn't mean it has to be morkish and trite [19:45] Torch Wood was the 'grown ups' version of dw [19:46] The Doctor Who Podcast is quite good [19:46] they're knowledgeable about the whole history/canon of Who [19:46] Will get around to listening to it at some point [19:46] torchwood is just a kids show with swearing and nudity, makes no sense [19:46] I just feel this new series is maybe too "tough" for a new viewer to get into [19:46] yeah, never got on with Torchwood [19:46] Too welsh? [19:46] >:D [19:46] but then I dont really like anything RTD has ever done [19:46] just cos it's for adults doesn't mean it has to be vulgar [19:46] too "gay" I think [19:47] Haha [19:47] RTD? [19:47] Russell T Davis [19:47] I love the bad guy's name is nice this week :) [19:47] I'm passing time by watching all of ZeroPunctuation's videos from day 0. Slagging of games is fun [19:48] * bigcalm leaves here until dw has been watched [19:48] :( [19:48] bigcalm: zeropunctuation \o/ [19:48] yeah, me too [19:48] ttfn [19:48] \o [19:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pD0inuVLUs [20:15] YAYYYYY Eurovision song contest \o/ [20:16] Who is hosting it? [20:16] Germany [20:16] i couldn't get the regular troupe of people i get together to watch eurovision with together :( [20:21] Finnish BC is displaying some of the tweets with the finnish eurovision hashtag on teletext subtitles :-D [20:21] * oimon is a eurovision widow tonight [20:22] eurovision is cool [20:24] o.O [20:26] Denmark are the best so far [20:28] in other news..anyone read this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/14/imac_hard_drive_replacement_woes/ [20:32] anyone don't wanna watch eurovision, bbc click is just coming on now [20:32] anyone that wants to customise a laptop, really isn't buying a mac anyway [20:34] gord: Replacing drives isn't unusual though [20:35] oh a mac it is... [20:35] i wonder how apple open the stuff up without destroying : i was given an ibook with dodgy mobo (couldn't boot) - i couldn't boot it to run DBAN before ebaying it, so i had to remove the hard drive. i ended up destroying my torx drivers and the whole machine. and this is from someone with 15 years experience of PC hardware [20:37] Lesson: don't buy apple, or look up the service manual on apple.com first [20:38] wow... have you guys seen what amarok looks like these days? i mean... erm... which bit is the bit that plays my music? http://amarok.kde.org/files/Amarok2.4.1.png [20:38] gord: I saw another image of it with overlapping text and mismatched colours [20:39] i promise to stop complaining about banshee, after trying out the windows music players just to play music whilst i play video games. and seing amarok? we have it gooooooooooooooooooooooodd [20:39] gord: it's hideous IMO, i recently switched to clementine from banshee, it's what amarok should have been [20:40] ah, that looks more like what i remember amarok was [20:40] although, bit too much like a spreadsheet for me [20:40] I was never a KDE user, so I don't know old-Amarok [20:41] it was great - but in clementine , it lives on [20:41] I actually don't mind banshee [20:41] i like the option of having file tree view [20:41] except for the crashing it sometimes does [20:41] the cover manager on clementine is fantastic too [20:42] (banshee doesn't explain why it doesn't find the covers) [20:43] wow..http://pixlr.com/editor/ [20:43] banshee is fine, its just that it could be so much greater if its video support actually worked, and if its queuing stuff made any sense whatsoever [20:46] i still like rhythmbox [20:46] right now i'll queue up a track thinking "Hey i really want to listen to this track but leave it in shuffle mode", then it plays that track, shuffles, plays that track again... shuffle. plays that track >:( and on and on [20:48] banshee seemed to lag every time I skipped a song when shuffle was on [20:51] where did per-application audio output selection go? [20:51] Oooh, that might be another natty feature [20:52] want banshee to use the speakers and skype/mumble to use the polycom communicator [20:52] I can see per-application volume settings, but there used to be a button dropdown thing to choose output I think [21:05] works great if I install pavucontrol [22:22] hi [22:24] hi