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Cheri703sooooo pissed off right now00:31
Unit193Eh?00:33
Cheri703roommate is being an inconsiderate jerk.00:38
Cheri703anyway...I'm going to attempt to sleep (til she comes in and wakes me up later), so I'll ttyl00:38
Unit193Bye!00:38
canthus13Cheri703: Shortsheet her.01:04
Unit193It doth rain...01:19
Cheri703bah, not sleepy, coming down with a cold so am stuffy. and I can't shortsheet her, because the whole point is that she is flying out super early and not coming to bed, so she will be coming in (in like an hour) to get her stuff and will thus wake me up01:22
Cheri703so it is hard to convince myself to try to sleep when I KNOW it is only for a short time01:22
Cheri703but then I have to be on a taxi in 4 hours, so...this is going to SUCK01:22
canthus13:(01:25
canthus13Sleep 'til you get back to JFK.01:25
Cheri703exactly01:25
Cheri703but that will SCREW UP my sleep schedule even more01:25
Cheri703I arrive at jfk at 3:30pm local time01:26
Cheri703which is 9:30pm hungary time01:26
Cheri703so basically I'll be up for well over 24 hours01:26
Cheri703if I don't sleep01:26
Cheri703but if I do, then it'll screw with everything01:26
Cheri703I don't reach columbus til 10:30pm01:27
Cheri703and then an hour home01:27
deejoethat last bit is the dangerous part, unless you've got someone picking you up02:18
deejoebut you're supposed to be asleep now, so nm :)02:18
Cheri703yeah, I have someone to get me02:20
Cheri703I'm all stuffy ...roommate just left, but still can't sleep02:20
BiosElementCheri703: paul I think, I know I don't. Yay for late responses02:38
Cheri703kk02:38
BiosElementI can check though02:40
BiosElementAs for the other ubuntu group, when the heck were they started? Anyone know?02:40
BiosElementI can only assume it was before my time.02:40
BiosElementCheri703: Yep, it's paultag02:40
Cheri703it doesn't matter who has the page, just saying it needs responses when people post02:40
Cheri703also, it was started like a year and a half ago, it's a meetup group apparently02:41
BiosElementSent paul a note02:42
BiosElementCheri703: Actually it does since it needs updated before it's archived heh02:44
Cheri703kk02:44
BiosElementCheri703: So enjoying your vacation? ;)02:46
Cheri703ha, not really a vacation, have been super busy all week, and now getting sick :(02:46
BiosElementAnd at this point I should probably note that if you're not, I reserve the right to throw cans at you until you do. >.>02:47
Cheri703heh, it's been awesome, but exhausting02:47
BiosElementHah, that's good.02:49
Cheri703OMG SINUSES02:51
Cheri703also annoyed that husband hasn't responded to me today :(02:51
TheErkSup peeps03:10
Unit193Don't put me in the microwave!!!03:13
TheErk... why not?03:16
BiosElementHuh?03:16
* BiosElement puts Unit193 in the microwave03:17
Cheri703I'm assuming it's "peeps explode in the microwave"03:17
Unit193My sister likes to put them in there...03:17
Unit193It's not nice to put people in the microwave...03:18
deejoenobody puts Unit193 in the microwave03:31
Unit193Howdy paultag03:34
TheErkPEE TAG!!!03:35
Unit193Is that at all like normal tag? But with pee?03:36
canthus13sounds messy.03:38
canthus13Cheri703: Peeps don't explode in the microwave.. they grow.  search youtube for peep wars.03:39
canthus13...Or peep jousting.03:40
SkrappJawAnyone in?04:42
Unit193SkrappJaw: Yep04:42
canthus13Unit193: If you're interested in wireless security, check out this series.. this guy's good and a pretty decent teacher, too.  http://www.securitytube.net/groups?operation=view&groupId=905:07
=== dequire is now known as ronnoc
jgouldhmm...  I may have to switch back to the MacOS...06:31
Unit193Can't get it to work I take it?06:36
canthus13jgould: Bummer. :(06:36
jgouldNope,  I may be getting more work added to me and it will require windows (natively... I have to be able to pass network data off to a program running in windows.) (Also, this is if the company doesn't issue me a laptop...)06:37
ronnocjgould: why not run an XP session in a VB? That's what I have to do to use IE for ONE stinking corporate website06:39
canthus13ronnoc: IE4Linux doesn't do the job?06:40
ronnocAFAIK that's no longer supported - at least last I checked06:40
ronnocthe project appeared abandoned06:41
canthus13Yeah, but most corp websites require IE6... and that works in IE4Linux. :)06:41
ronnocYepp. I evaluated it at the time and there was a reason I couldn't use it06:42
Unit193Can't you either change your useragent or WINE ie?06:42
ronnocUnit193: Nah it needs an exact version of Java and a bunch of other dependencies. A vm was just easier.06:43
jgouldI'm just thinking ahead.  I will also end up with an email account (I'm pretty sure) on our corprate exchange server, and I would like to be able to check that from my own computer...06:43
jgouldI also can't get my bluetooh keyboard or trackpad to work under Lubuntu06:44
ronnocjgould: I know that KDE's Kontact is supposed to be Exchange-friendly06:44
canthus13Unit193: Problem is a lot of these corp intranet sites use stupid crap like ActiveX.06:45
jgouldNever been a big fan of KDE.  I *think* evolution supports exchange...06:45
canthus13pretty sure it does.06:45
* canthus13 fires up evolution to check06:45
canthus13Yup.06:46
* ronnoc shrugs and thinks KDE is pretty amazing these days06:46
Unit193evolution has OK support... davmail is what you really want to checkout (and you can use that with any client)06:46
canthus13ronnoc: It's ugly and feels like it was bolted together from spare parts.06:47
ronnoclol06:47
jgouldI actually detest windows,  I have for years, but I still have to use it from time to time06:49
ronnocHere's my desktop tonight as I talk on IRC. Hardly looks bolted together IMO06:52
ronnochttp://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/dequire/d73094eb.png06:52
Unit193What FF theme?06:53
ronnocUnit193: It's stock - it's the KDE Window color and theme that makes it06:54
* Unit193 has no issues with KDE06:54
ronnocbut i agree stock KDE is a little bland06:54
ronnocand GTK apps look reched in it still06:55
ronnocbut hey, we're all 'Buntus and what else matters? =)06:57
jgouldvery ture06:58
jgoulder true06:58
ronnocjgould: hopefully it'll work out for you to stay on Linux and do what corp wants as well06:59
ronnocmy last employer (fortune 500 co) issued me an HP laptop. I immediately whiped the drive and installed Kubuntu lol07:00
ronnocnot even dual boot07:00
jgouldI can't get away with that.  this software only runs under Windows, and the people I work with aren't smart enough to understand the diffrence...07:01
jgouldWe have Dells, but if they issue me a machine, It'll probably be a D630...07:01
ronnocwell, as I said, that's what Virtual Boxes are perfect for - just close Windows when it's not needed07:01
jgouldI have virtual box installed, I just don't know if I can use it for our software or if it requires direct access to ethernet...07:02
ronnocnot sure. my VM has all ports, printers, and network working for Win, but I don't do anything directlywith TCPIP packets or anything07:03
jgouldWow...  I just unplugged my laptop and I have 14:43 of battery power remainging..07:05
jgouldI suppose installing bluetooth support would help just a bit...07:11
=== Unit193 is now known as Unit193|AFK
Unit193|AFKHave a good night!07:14
ronnoclol i would think so07:14
jgoulddamn trackpad07:16
jgouldok  this aluminum keyboard is cold...07:31
jgouldOk I think I got it07:37
jgouldNow if I could just get drivers for the broadcom chipset on the wireless, I could use everything that is internal in this MacBook07:40
=== RonnocCain is now known as ronnoc
dniMretsaMhello17:05
dniMretsaMwow this chat is dead17:57
paultagOh shucks18:26
paultagOh well18:26
=== RonnocCain is now known as ronnoc
BiosElementWell yeah, it is if you come in midday on a Saturday. >.<19:45
canthus13we be sleepin' off our purple drank...19:59
dniMretsaMhi guys20:34
dniMretsaMhello all20:35
dniMretsaMliking Pidgin a lot20:37
canthus13ew.20:38
dniMretsaMy ew?20:39
canthus13Because pidgin is a horrible, memory-sucking program.20:42
canthus13It's not uncommon to see pidgin use over a gig of ram.20:42
dniMretsaMwell, it's not using a gig of RAM on my computer since I only have 512 megs20:45
canthus13dniMretsaM: Heh.  Leave it open long enough and it will consume all available memory.21:48
BiosElementAhh yes, nice to see mainstream media running with the irrelevent dropbox story21:49
* jgould ponders21:54
BiosElementIt's such a non-story. >.<21:55
jgouldWhat's the story?21:55
BiosElementNo data breach, no leaks, no total screwups, I fail to see a reason for outrage for a service most get for free.21:55
BiosElementBasically some folks in their PR Dept. got a bit excessive in their wording and implied there was a technical reason that Dropbox employees couldn't access your data, which was apparently not entirely accurate.21:56
canthus13there's outrage?21:56
jgouldso it's a non story?21:56
BiosElementcanthus13: Google dropbox security :P21:57
canthus13Among...?  I'm guessing it's non-technical types that are outraged.21:57
canthus13People who have no idea why they're outraged. :)21:57
BiosElementWell it's the top story on google news atm :P21:57
BiosElementcanthus13: Wired ran with it,so yes, non-technical types hah21:57
canthus13Heh.21:58
BiosElementAnd to be clear, Dropbox fucked up, but it's nothing to throw a tantrum over.21:58
dniMretsaMwhat's up with dropbox?21:58
BiosElementhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/dropbox-ftc/21:58
BiosElement^If you're curious21:58
canthus13Oh well. anyone who presumes that their files are secure with someone they have no contracct with is an idiot.21:58
BiosElementIn short, dropbox 'can' access your files, there are no technical restrictions to prevent it.21:59
canthus13Heck, if you're worried about security, you should encrypt everything anyway.21:59
BiosElement+1 canthus1321:59
BiosElementI never toss anything there that isn't encrypted unless I don't care about it21:59
canthus13Exactly.22:00
dniMretsaMmass copyright infringement suits don't sound bad to me22:00
BiosElementUmm, what?22:01
dniMretsaMI don't store anything important on dropbox. mainly just iPhone app save data backups22:01
canthus13the shotgun approach to copyright suits should be illegal.22:01
BiosElementIt is technically22:02
BiosElementBut regardless, Wired is dead wrong in that regard22:02
canthus13"Dropbox Lied, People Died!!"22:02
canthus13...22:02
BiosElementDropbox is generally private unless marked otherwise. Thus it's not making public.22:02
BiosElementIt'd be a hard case to argue22:02
BiosElementAnd as a side note22:03
BiosElementThe quotes don't appear to be from the actual legal Terms of Service22:03
BiosElementSo again, non-issue.22:04
* canthus13 pokes at himself.22:05
canthus13Tried to rsync a whole partition onto a thumb drive. :/22:06
BiosElement>.>22:06
canthus13Meant to rsync the contents of an ISO.22:06
deejoed'oh22:06
* canthus13 is building a BT5 bootable SD card.22:06
canthus13I could make this my everyday OS, almost... It's pretty sharp so far.. The gnome version, anyway. :)22:07
deejoehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_tank22:07
canthus13Heh. Backtrack 5, silly.22:08
canthus13Not an undergunned, underarmored early soviet tank.22:08
deejoeheh22:09
deejoesorry, I have trouble keeping up with what the flavor-of-the-month is with Linux distributions22:10
canthus13Bah. I may have to resize the partitions and start over again. :/22:10
deejoe:(22:10
BiosElementDropbox's side of the story: http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=73522:10
canthus13deejoe: Backtrack has some serious security issues that would prevent it from being my primary OS.. It's not designed to be a primary OS.22:10
canthus13But it's a lot nicer than BT4.22:10
canthus13Ooo.. just squeezed it in.22:10
BiosElementChristopher Sogohain, ahh there we go. The idiot who filed the FTC complaint. Awesome. A "security researcher" I need to remember not to bother reading about.22:17
canthus13bah. didn't boot. :/  got a grub prompt.22:19
canthus13BiosElement: I dunno.. it's the same guy that outed facebook for being a bunch of assholes.  I kinda like the guy22:19
BiosElementIt may be, but he's being a prick IMO with both actually.22:19
BiosElementHe claims to be a privacy expert and posts private emails, not really illegal but poor form.22:20
jgouldstupid samba22:23
canthus13facebook claims to be concerned with privacy, shares your info with every app you run.22:24
BiosElementActually IMO facebook went overkill with their privacy now, it's overly confusing.22:24
jgouldI'm bored22:43
jgouldand I don't want to wgo to work tonight22:43
* Cheri703 is at jfk23:00
deejoe\o/23:04
canthus13Almost home... :)23:05
Cheri703yep, leave here at 8:30, arrive in cbus at 10:30, get home around midnight probably23:05
Cheri703canthus13: I intend to go to the post office early this next week, so I'll try to get sully in the mail23:05
Cheri703unless you want me to send it right to whoever is taking it next23:05
canthus13Cheri703: Here is fine.. I'm not sure where he's going next.  I've got a friend at Fort Polk, though.. mebbe I could get him into the army. :)23:14
Cheri703heh23:14
Cheri703oh, give me a few minutes and I'll try to get the next batch to you23:15
canthus13ok.  :)23:15
Cheri703:( computer froze while moving images so it lost 2 of them, but it's ok :/ the better version of one of them disappeared, but it's alright I guess23:23
ronnochi all23:27
BiosElementHey ronnoc23:27
ronnocgreetings from N/E Ohio. haven't been here in a while :p23:27
ronnocBiosElement: Thx!23:28
BiosElementHeh, been busy eh?23:29
ronnocvery very. that's an understatement :/23:30
BiosElementBah, I'm having such fun with this plugin system...23:32
BiosElement*insert sarcasm here*23:32
Cheri703nerd23:32
BiosElementSays the person at UDS >.>23:32
Cheri703true23:32
ronnoclol23:33
ronnocI would love to go to UDS. Opensource get togethers are a new thing to me, though I did go to camp KDE last year.23:34
Cheri703It was pretty sweet23:34
ronnocCheri703: I was keeping up on the blogs from the Planet feed as best I could - looked like it was =)23:35
Cheri703:)23:35
BiosElementHeh, reminds me, got a new FB page for the loco up. Still gotta mail it out to the list. >.<23:36
Cheri703canthus13: sully pics on the way23:36
Cheri703you mentioned honorary ubuntu member...the better of the pics to fulfill that got eaten, but...one survived23:37
paultagHey BiosElement23:37
BiosElementHey paultag23:37
BiosElementYou live!23:37
paultagBiosElement: All good with the FB group?23:37
paultagBiosElement: aye! :)23:37
BiosElementpaultag: Aye, all's good. Just FB makes it overly complex hah23:38
paultagRock on. Thanks for helping make LoCoHiO rock, BiosElement :)23:38
Cheri703ronnoc: where are you located?23:38
ronnocCheri703: Lake Milton - between Youngstown and Akron basically23:38
paultagronnoc: Clevelander here, where in NEO?23:38
BiosElementpaultag: Of course. ^_^23:38
paultagronnoc: Oh, nice! :)23:38
paultagronnoc: How long are you here for?23:38
Cheri703hey paultag, lots of people mentioned you in various contexts at UDS23:38
paultagCheri703: uh oh23:39
paultagCheri703: good or bad?23:39
ronnochi paultag - here for good23:39
BiosElementDo you have to ask that question paultag? :P23:39
paultagronnoc: rad :)23:39
* Cheri703 is in mansfield23:39
paultagBiosElement: nope, usually bad :)23:39
Cheri703...mostly good :D there was discussion of THE blog post23:39
paultagCheri703: I hope that was productive23:39
BiosElementBTW, Have you been around Jono too much? :P23:39
paultagCheri703: I meant it as productive23:39
Cheri703to a degree, there are two camps on "contributors"...23:40
paultagCheri703: Wait, now I want to know, what was the bad stuff? :)23:40
canthus13Wow.  I just saw Paula Deen make crab salad... Without butter.23:40
paultagCheri703: Oh, joy. Hummm.23:40
Cheri703jono was all over the place there23:40
BiosElementJono's always all over the place :P23:41
Cheri703heh, probably23:41
ronnocCheri703: you both are not too far. Maybe an hour I'm guessing?23:46
ronnochaven't been to Mansfield in a while :p23:47
Cheri703which side of akron are you on?23:47
ronnocI'm between Akron and Youngstown, so like hmmm23:47
Cheri703we have a reloco here :)23:48
ronnoc30 mins east of akron23:48
Cheri703(well, there...I'm currently at JFK airport :) )23:48
ronnochah. safe travels, then23:48
Cheri703ah, ok23:48
Cheri703you'd probably go to the akron one then :)23:48
ronnoci don't mind a little travel, really. I'll go anywhere within reason =)23:49
Cheri703the flight to budapest from jfk was 9 hours, the return was 10 -_-23:50
Cheri703my tailbone hurts23:50
ronnocouch! did you get a slight layover between? I'd be going nuts lol23:51
Cheri703nope, cmh to jfk to bud (5ish hours at jfk) and the same back23:52
Cheri703canthus13: I will have to wait to send those pics til I'm home...tethered connection is straining under the size of the zip file :/23:53
ronnocyou'll sleep well tonight, methinks!23:53
Cheri703yeah23:54
Cheri703I heart access control on wireless tether!23:55

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