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linuxman410cyberanger you here i been looking for you01:39
linuxman410wrst has cyberanger been here01:41
linuxman410cyberanger you here i been looking for you01:42
linuxman410wrst u here01:43
linuxman410mootbot is cyberanger here01:43
wrstlinuxman410: what's up01:46
linuxman410wrst has cyberanger been here01:46
wrsthaven't talked with him lately linuxman41001:46
linuxman410wrst this is the first nite i seen his name in list01:47
wrstmaybe he is getting his always on connection going01:47
linuxman410wrst do u know what os he runs on his asus eee pc 2g01:48
linuxman410wrst it is something custom he sent me a screen shot once01:49
linuxman410wrst does cyberanger have a website01:51
linuxman410cyberanger if you get on here hollow at me i will leave xchat running and check back every 10 minutes01:54
cyberangerlinuxman410: sorry02:27
cyberangeram now02:27
cyberangerlinuxman410: here now02:34
cyberangerlinuxman410: what's up02:35
cyberangerlinuxman410: it's based on ubuntu, styled like m0n0wall, debian and crunchbang02:40
cyberangera real frankenstien02:41
cyberangerI don't really have anything about it yet online, just was sorta trial and error02:41
cyberangerI have a few blogs here and there, but all unused for awhile (unfortunately02:42
cyberangerjust not a blogger I guess)02:42
cyberangerjust got back from dinner (late I know, but worth the trip)02:43
linuxman410cyberanger you here03:05
cyberangeryes03:06
linuxman410cyberanger i did a minimal install of debian with one kernel forgot root password anyway to change it without reinstalling03:07
cyberangerwhen grub loads, can you select the recovery mode?03:08
linuxman410yes03:08
cyberangerthen when you boot into that, run 'passwd <username>' replacing <username> with your username03:09
cyberangerthen it'll ask you to create a new password03:09
cyberangerextra steps if lvm or dm-crypt are used, but I don't think you've done that03:13
cyberangerhey wrst03:17
wrsthey cyberanger... unplugged my server and didn't realize it until now :)03:17
cyberangernot yet done with setting back up my allways on system03:17
cyberangerwhoops03:17
cyberangerlinuxman410: did that help?03:17
wrstcyberanger: sounds like you are on process then?03:17
cyberangeron process?03:18
wrstuhh cyberanger... i have no clue what i just said03:20
wrstbut sounds like you are progressing ? :)03:20
linuxman410cyberanger now user or root password does not work03:20
linuxman410cyberanger u still here03:21
cyberangerlinuxman410: you ran 'passwd <username>' from the recovery console, it prompted you to create a new password and repeat it03:21
cyberangerand that password didn't work?03:21
cyberangerwrst: sorta03:21
linuxman410yes03:21
* cyberanger thinks for a moment03:22
linuxman410cyberanger i cannot even login to system now root or user03:22
cyberangerdid you modify root's password, did you set one at install (you no longer have to for squeeze)03:23
cyberangerthat should not have modified root, unless that was the user you selected03:23
linuxman410yes i set one at install03:23
cyberangerand you did not modify that, right?03:24
linuxman410yes i changed it to03:25
linuxman410no none of them work03:25
cyberangerthat's not a normal lockout then03:26
linuxman410cyberanger can i change user password in recovery mode03:26
cyberangeryeah, that's what I was having you do03:26
cyberangerpasswd <username>03:26
cyberangerwere you not doing that in recovery mode?03:27
linuxman410ok i am logged in but how do i install programs without root password03:28
cyberangeryour at a root prompt now03:28
cyberangerand passwd should already be installed03:29
linuxman410no at user prompt03:29
cyberanger$ not #, really?03:29
linuxman410cyberanger the only way i can get to root is in recovery mode03:30
cyberangerAre you not in recovery mode?03:30
linuxman410not now i am in user mode03:30
linuxman410after i changed password03:31
cyberangerso it did work?03:31
linuxman410yes but how do i install programs without root password03:31
cyberangerwith sudo, but I take it you hadn't yet set that up03:31
cyberangerso it sounds like you'll need to go back to recovery mode, and run 'passwd root' as well03:32
linuxman410i setup a root password during install that i forgot03:32
cyberangeryeah, from recovery console you can reset it03:32
cyberangerwith 'passwd root'03:34
linuxman410trying now03:35
linuxman410got it thanks03:35
cyberangerso all is well?03:35
cyberangerlinuxman410: that fixed the issue?03:36
linuxman410cyberanger how do i install x so openbox will work03:54
cyberangersudo apt-get install xorg03:54
cyberangererr, since I doubt you have sudo03:54
cyberangerapt-get install xorg sudo03:55
* wrst may get kicked...03:56
wrstor not...03:57
wrst.weather cookeville tn03:59
testingoutanewboKeyError: 'geonames' (file "/home/ircbot/phenny/modules/weather.py", line 26, in location)03:59
wrst.weather 3850104:00
testingoutanewboKeyError: 'geonames' (file "/home/ircbot/phenny/modules/weather.py", line 26, in location)04:00
cyberangerwrst: eggbot?04:00
wrstphenny04:00
cyberangerclose04:00
* wrst thinks he should go back to the drawing board04:01
* cyberanger hands wrst some crayons04:03
wrstha ha cyberanger, kinda had some time to play with something :)04:04
cyberangerworking on eggdrop myself04:04
linuxman410_cyberanger how do i get wireless installed04:12
cyberangerlinuxman410_: wicd, network-manager or just wireless-tools04:13
linuxman410_i got a minimal system got browser and xchat working04:13
cyberangerI use wicd04:13
cyberangerapt-get install wicd-curses04:14
linuxman410_cyberanger itis not showing up in openbox how do i activate wicd04:16
cyberangerfire a terminal, run 'wicd-curses'04:17
linuxman410_cyberanger my wireless is not showing it says no networks found04:20
cyberangeryour on debian, right?04:20
linuxman410_yes debian 604:21
linuxman410_asus eee pc 2 g04:21
cyberangerwhat's your wifi card04:21
linuxman410_atheros04:21
cyberangeran Atheros card then04:21
cyberangerok04:21
cyberangerthat card might not be in main04:21
cyberangerdid you enable contrib and non-free04:22
linuxman410_no can i enable them now04:22
cyberangeryes04:22
linuxman410_how04:22
cyberangersudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:22
cyberangereverywhere you see man, append contrib non-free04:22
linuxman410_i do not see man04:26
cyberangersorry, main append contrib non-free04:26
cyberangerdropped an i04:26
linuxman410_so erase main and write contrib non-free04:28
cyberangerno, append contrib non-free04:28
cyberangerend result is main contrib non-free04:28
linuxman410_so make all of them say main contrib non-free04:29
cyberangerif it already says main, yes04:29
linuxman410_ok04:33
linuxman410_now what04:33
cyberangersudo apt-get update04:34
linuxman410_ok now what04:34
cyberangersudo apt-get install wireless-tools04:35
linuxman410_ok04:36
linuxman410_now what04:36
wrstcyberanger: you tell the bot to do that?04:37
cyberangerwrst: yep04:37
cyberangerdid you want it around?04:37
wrstcool have fun!04:37
wrstcyberanger: i would prefer not to get hate mail :)04:37
cyberangerif it's a bother, I've got two ways to kick it04:38
wrst.weather 3857004:38
linuxman410_cyeranger now what do i do04:38
wrstseem pretty unobtrusive, for now04:38
linuxman410_do i need to restart04:38
cyberangerlinuxman410_: does 'sudo iwconfig' list it?04:39
linuxman410_it says no wireless extensions04:41
cyberangersudo modprobe ath5k04:41
cyberangersudo iwconfig04:41
linuxman410_says wlan0 is 802,11g ssid off04:42
cyberangernow 'wicd-curses'04:43
linuxman410_stillsays no wireless networks04:43
cyberangergive it a reboot then04:44
linuxman410_be right back04:44
linuxman410cyberanger wireless stll no go04:47
cyberanger'sudo iwconfig'04:48
cyberangerand 'sudo ifconfig -a'04:48
linuxman410cyberanger what os is on yourasus eee pc 2g04:48
cyberangerit's a homebrew04:49
cyberangerI've used debian and ubuntu as a base04:49
linuxman410what am i looking for04:50
cyberangerwlan004:51
linuxman410ok what should it say04:52
cyberangerit's there?04:52
cyberangersudo ifconfig wlan0 up04:52
cyberangersudo iwlist wlan0 scan04:52
cyberangerwicd-curses04:52
linuxman410says interface does not support scanning04:53
cyberangerugh, that's not right04:54
linuxman410cyberanger what else to try if i can get wireless going i got it04:56
cyberangerI'm thinking, surely there's something I'm overlooking04:57
cyberangerare you root?04:58
cyberangeror a user?04:58
linuxman410cyberanger how do i save sources.list it did not save last time05:03
cyberangerctrl + o05:04
linuxman410then what05:05
linuxman410just close it05:05
cyberangeryeah, ctrl + x05:06
cyberangerand since it didn't save05:06
cyberangersudo apt-get update05:06
linuxman410cyberanger i try ctrl x itdoes nothing to save it still did not save now what05:15
linuxman410cyberanger ctrl o worked but not crtl x05:16
linuxman410cyberanger you stll here05:17
cyberangeryeah, here05:17
cyberangerare you root?05:18
linuxman410yes05:18
linuxman410why does ctrl o do nothing05:18
cyberangerhrm, ugh05:18
linuxman410it says m a to append05:19
linuxman410ctrl a to append maybe05:20
linuxman410cyberanger does your os fit in less than 2gb05:34
linuxman410cyberanger u still here05:35
wrst.weather cookeville14:05
wrst.weather 3857014:28
testbot8570Clear ☼, 24℃, 1014mb, Moderate breeze 14kt (↑) - GCTS 13:00Z14:29
wrst.weather livingston tn14:29
testbot8570Cloudy, 64.4℉ (18℃), 29.72in (1003mb), Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KCHA 13:23Z14:29
wrst?14:29
linuxman410cyberanger u here14:33
wrstget it going linuxman410?14:33
linuxman410no14:35
wrstoh :\14:35
linuxman410wrst i know cyberanger is running  one of them with a custom os i am trying to get him to tell me how to build the custom os14:36
linuxman410wrst how much room does a commandline install of ubuntu take14:38
wrstlinuxman410:  i would think 5-600 MB14:45
wrstyou can get them down fairly small probably smallar if you get into eliminating unedded kernel modules etc14:46
linuxman410wrst could i add openbox and xchat and a browser and stay below a gig14:47
wrstpossibly linuxman410 i reall don't know14:48
wrstnot my field of expertise at all on keeping it small14:48
linuxman410wrst ok thanks have to go to work try to catch cyberanger later14:52
oriashmmm why not dsl or puppy if space is a consideration?15:13
oriasor is it somethings he's trying for s+g?15:13
wrstorias: i wondered the same thing15:28
oriaspuppy's pretty decent these days, even with a gui, it's still pretty small15:32
wrstyes it is15:32
oriaswrst: have you had any luck with adobe air on a 64bit system?16:41
oriasmore to the point, http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/521/cpsid_52132.html#main_Install_AIR_2_on_64_bit_Ubuntu_9_0416:42
oriasstep 2 keeps failing on me, but i16:42
orias've yet to explore any further16:43
wrstorias: never tried air period actually17:15
wrst.weather cookeville tn17:25
oriastrying to see if i can use the that to run the supposed windows only pandora app17:25
wrstahh orias cool :)17:25
wrst.weather cookeville tn17:26
testbot8570Cloudy, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.71in (1003mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KCHA 15:53Z17:26
chris4585.weather 3446119:04
testbot8570Overcast ☁, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.80in (1006mb), Thundery Rain, Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGNV, 17:59Z19:04
chris4585o.O19:04
chris4585that does not seem right...19:04
chris4585.weather lecanto fl19:04
testbot8570Overcast ☁, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.80in (1006mb), Thundery Rain, Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGNV, 17:59Z19:04
wrstchris4585: i think its a little whacked19:06
chris4585appears so, its about 87F here19:06
wrst.weather livingston tn19:12
testbot8570Cloudy, 71.6℉ (22℃), 29.69in (1002mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KCHA 17:53Z19:12
wrstthat's not far from right19:12
cyberangerdarnm I got sidelined last night19:38
cyberangerI see linuxman410 still must be having wifi issues19:39
cyberangerwrst: that seems a bit small, however I'll add cli tools that wouldn't be usual for some19:40
cyberangerlike nmap (network mapper) for example19:41
wrstyeah19:43
cyberangerdefinately under a gig though, before you add much of anything19:43
wrsti'm kinda like orias i'm thinking puppy or something might be best19:43
cyberangerbut idk how small one could work, and be usable (that usable bit poses challenges)19:44
cyberangerI'm working on remastering a disc so people can have an idea on my setup19:44
cyberangernot sure if and how I'd release it atm19:44
wrstcool19:44
cyberangerkinda the issue of something you make for yourself, plus bandwidth constraints over time19:49
cyberangerhow much you wanna support it, for others, and how much will it cost you19:49
cyberangertwo questions I have yet to fully answer19:50
cyberangernext time somebody is trying to put you down for being a geek, recall this: http://xkcd.com/898/20:42
cyberangerI hate tech support calls, wish this actually worked http://xkcd.com/806/22:30

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