[01:39] <linuxman410> cyberanger you here i been looking for you
[01:41] <linuxman410> wrst has cyberanger been here
[01:42] <linuxman410> cyberanger you here i been looking for you
[01:43] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[01:43] <linuxman410> mootbot is cyberanger here
[01:46] <wrst> linuxman410: what's up
[01:46] <linuxman410> wrst has cyberanger been here
[01:46] <wrst> haven't talked with him lately linuxman410
[01:47] <linuxman410> wrst this is the first nite i seen his name in list
[01:47] <wrst> maybe he is getting his always on connection going
[01:48] <linuxman410> wrst do u know what os he runs on his asus eee pc 2g
[01:49] <linuxman410> wrst it is something custom he sent me a screen shot once
[01:51] <linuxman410> wrst does cyberanger have a website
[01:54] <linuxman410> cyberanger if you get on here hollow at me i will leave xchat running and check back every 10 minutes
[02:27] <cyberanger> linuxman410: sorry
[02:27] <cyberanger> am now
[02:34] <cyberanger> linuxman410: here now
[02:35] <cyberanger> linuxman410: what's up
[02:40] <cyberanger> linuxman410: it's based on ubuntu, styled like m0n0wall, debian and crunchbang
[02:41] <cyberanger> a real frankenstien
[02:41] <cyberanger> I don't really have anything about it yet online, just was sorta trial and error
[02:42] <cyberanger> I have a few blogs here and there, but all unused for awhile (unfortunately
[02:42] <cyberanger> just not a blogger I guess)
[02:43] <cyberanger> just got back from dinner (late I know, but worth the trip)
[03:05] <linuxman410> cyberanger you here
[03:06] <cyberanger> yes
[03:07] <linuxman410> cyberanger i did a minimal install of debian with one kernel forgot root password anyway to change it without reinstalling
[03:08] <cyberanger> when grub loads, can you select the recovery mode?
[03:08] <linuxman410> yes
[03:09] <cyberanger> then when you boot into that, run 'passwd <username>' replacing <username> with your username
[03:09] <cyberanger> then it'll ask you to create a new password
[03:13] <cyberanger> extra steps if lvm or dm-crypt are used, but I don't think you've done that
[03:17] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[03:17] <wrst> hey cyberanger... unplugged my server and didn't realize it until now :)
[03:17] <cyberanger> not yet done with setting back up my allways on system
[03:17] <cyberanger> whoops
[03:17] <cyberanger> linuxman410: did that help?
[03:17] <wrst> cyberanger: sounds like you are on process then?
[03:18] <cyberanger> on process?
[03:20] <wrst> uhh cyberanger... i have no clue what i just said
[03:20] <wrst> but sounds like you are progressing ? :)
[03:20] <linuxman410> cyberanger now user or root password does not work
[03:21] <linuxman410> cyberanger u still here
[03:21] <cyberanger> linuxman410: you ran 'passwd <username>' from the recovery console, it prompted you to create a new password and repeat it
[03:21] <cyberanger> and that password didn't work?
[03:21] <cyberanger> wrst: sorta
[03:21] <linuxman410> yes
[03:22]  * cyberanger thinks for a moment
[03:22] <linuxman410> cyberanger i cannot even login to system now root or user
[03:23] <cyberanger> did you modify root's password, did you set one at install (you no longer have to for squeeze)
[03:23] <cyberanger> that should not have modified root, unless that was the user you selected
[03:23] <linuxman410> yes i set one at install
[03:24] <cyberanger> and you did not modify that, right?
[03:25] <linuxman410> yes i changed it to
[03:25] <linuxman410> no none of them work
[03:26] <cyberanger> that's not a normal lockout then
[03:26] <linuxman410> cyberanger can i change user password in recovery mode
[03:26] <cyberanger> yeah, that's what I was having you do
[03:26] <cyberanger> passwd <username>
[03:27] <cyberanger> were you not doing that in recovery mode?
[03:28] <linuxman410> ok i am logged in but how do i install programs without root password
[03:28] <cyberanger> your at a root prompt now
[03:29] <cyberanger> and passwd should already be installed
[03:29] <linuxman410> no at user prompt
[03:29] <cyberanger> $ not #, really?
[03:30] <linuxman410> cyberanger the only way i can get to root is in recovery mode
[03:30] <cyberanger> Are you not in recovery mode?
[03:30] <linuxman410> not now i am in user mode
[03:31] <linuxman410> after i changed password
[03:31] <cyberanger> so it did work?
[03:31] <linuxman410> yes but how do i install programs without root password
[03:31] <cyberanger> with sudo, but I take it you hadn't yet set that up
[03:32] <cyberanger> so it sounds like you'll need to go back to recovery mode, and run 'passwd root' as well
[03:32] <linuxman410> i setup a root password during install that i forgot
[03:32] <cyberanger> yeah, from recovery console you can reset it
[03:34] <cyberanger> with 'passwd root'
[03:35] <linuxman410> trying now
[03:35] <linuxman410> got it thanks
[03:35] <cyberanger> so all is well?
[03:36] <cyberanger> linuxman410: that fixed the issue?
[03:54] <linuxman410> cyberanger how do i install x so openbox will work
[03:54] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get install xorg
[03:54] <cyberanger> err, since I doubt you have sudo
[03:55] <cyberanger> apt-get install xorg sudo
[03:56]  * wrst may get kicked...
[03:57] <wrst> or not...
[03:59] <wrst> .weather cookeville tn
[03:59] <testingoutanewbo> KeyError: 'geonames' (file "/home/ircbot/phenny/modules/weather.py", line 26, in location)
[04:00] <wrst> .weather 38501
[04:00] <testingoutanewbo> KeyError: 'geonames' (file "/home/ircbot/phenny/modules/weather.py", line 26, in location)
[04:00] <cyberanger> wrst: eggbot?
[04:00] <wrst> phenny
[04:00] <cyberanger> close
[04:01]  * wrst thinks he should go back to the drawing board
[04:03]  * cyberanger hands wrst some crayons
[04:04] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger, kinda had some time to play with something :)
[04:04] <cyberanger> working on eggdrop myself
[04:12] <linuxman410_> cyberanger how do i get wireless installed
[04:13] <cyberanger> linuxman410_: wicd, network-manager or just wireless-tools
[04:13] <linuxman410_> i got a minimal system got browser and xchat working
[04:13] <cyberanger> I use wicd
[04:14] <cyberanger> apt-get install wicd-curses
[04:16] <linuxman410_> cyberanger itis not showing up in openbox how do i activate wicd
[04:17] <cyberanger> fire a terminal, run 'wicd-curses'
[04:20] <linuxman410_> cyberanger my wireless is not showing it says no networks found
[04:20] <cyberanger> your on debian, right?
[04:21] <linuxman410_> yes debian 6
[04:21] <linuxman410_> asus eee pc 2 g
[04:21] <cyberanger> what's your wifi card
[04:21] <linuxman410_> atheros
[04:21] <cyberanger> an Atheros card then
[04:21] <cyberanger> ok
[04:21] <cyberanger> that card might not be in main
[04:22] <cyberanger> did you enable contrib and non-free
[04:22] <linuxman410_> no can i enable them now
[04:22] <cyberanger> yes
[04:22] <linuxman410_> how
[04:22] <cyberanger> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:22] <cyberanger> everywhere you see man, append contrib non-free
[04:26] <linuxman410_> i do not see man
[04:26] <cyberanger> sorry, main append contrib non-free
[04:26] <cyberanger> dropped an i
[04:28] <linuxman410_> so erase main and write contrib non-free
[04:28] <cyberanger> no, append contrib non-free
[04:28] <cyberanger> end result is main contrib non-free
[04:29] <linuxman410_> so make all of them say main contrib non-free
[04:29] <cyberanger> if it already says main, yes
[04:33] <linuxman410_> ok
[04:33] <linuxman410_> now what
[04:34] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <linuxman410_> ok now what
[04:35] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[04:36] <linuxman410_> ok
[04:36] <linuxman410_> now what
[04:37] <wrst> cyberanger: you tell the bot to do that?
[04:37] <cyberanger> wrst: yep
[04:37] <cyberanger> did you want it around?
[04:37] <wrst> cool have fun!
[04:37] <wrst> cyberanger: i would prefer not to get hate mail :)
[04:38] <cyberanger> if it's a bother, I've got two ways to kick it
[04:38] <wrst> .weather 38570
[04:38] <linuxman410_> cyeranger now what do i do
[04:38] <wrst> seem pretty unobtrusive, for now
[04:38] <linuxman410_> do i need to restart
[04:39] <cyberanger> linuxman410_: does 'sudo iwconfig' list it?
[04:41] <linuxman410_> it says no wireless extensions
[04:41] <cyberanger> sudo modprobe ath5k
[04:41] <cyberanger> sudo iwconfig
[04:42] <linuxman410_> says wlan0 is 802,11g ssid off
[04:43] <cyberanger> now 'wicd-curses'
[04:43] <linuxman410_> stillsays no wireless networks
[04:44] <cyberanger> give it a reboot then
[04:44] <linuxman410_> be right back
[04:47] <linuxman410> cyberanger wireless stll no go
[04:48] <cyberanger> 'sudo iwconfig'
[04:48] <cyberanger> and 'sudo ifconfig -a'
[04:48] <linuxman410> cyberanger what os is on yourasus eee pc 2g
[04:49] <cyberanger> it's a homebrew
[04:49] <cyberanger> I've used debian and ubuntu as a base
[04:50] <linuxman410> what am i looking for
[04:51] <cyberanger> wlan0
[04:52] <linuxman410> ok what should it say
[04:52] <cyberanger> it's there?
[04:52] <cyberanger> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:52] <cyberanger> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:52] <cyberanger> wicd-curses
[04:53] <linuxman410> says interface does not support scanning
[04:54] <cyberanger> ugh, that's not right
[04:56] <linuxman410> cyberanger what else to try if i can get wireless going i got it
[04:57] <cyberanger> I'm thinking, surely there's something I'm overlooking
[04:58] <cyberanger> are you root?
[04:58] <cyberanger> or a user?
[05:03] <linuxman410> cyberanger how do i save sources.list it did not save last time
[05:04] <cyberanger> ctrl + o
[05:05] <linuxman410> then what
[05:05] <linuxman410> just close it
[05:06] <cyberanger> yeah, ctrl + x
[05:06] <cyberanger> and since it didn't save
[05:06] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get update
[05:15] <linuxman410> cyberanger i try ctrl x itdoes nothing to save it still did not save now what
[05:16] <linuxman410> cyberanger ctrl o worked but not crtl x
[05:17] <linuxman410> cyberanger you stll here
[05:17] <cyberanger> yeah, here
[05:18] <cyberanger> are you root?
[05:18] <linuxman410> yes
[05:18] <linuxman410> why does ctrl o do nothing
[05:18] <cyberanger> hrm, ugh
[05:19] <linuxman410> it says m a to append
[05:20] <linuxman410> ctrl a to append maybe
[05:34] <linuxman410> cyberanger does your os fit in less than 2gb
[05:35] <linuxman410> cyberanger u still here
[14:05] <wrst> .weather cookeville
[14:28] <wrst> .weather 38570
[14:29] <testbot8570> Clear ☼, 24℃, 1014mb, Moderate breeze 14kt (↑) - GCTS 13:00Z
[14:29] <wrst> .weather livingston tn
[14:29] <testbot8570> Cloudy, 64.4℉ (18℃), 29.72in (1003mb), Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KCHA 13:23Z
[14:29] <wrst> ?
[14:33] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[14:33] <wrst> get it going linuxman410?
[14:35] <linuxman410> no
[14:35] <wrst> oh :\
[14:36] <linuxman410> wrst i know cyberanger is running  one of them with a custom os i am trying to get him to tell me how to build the custom os
[14:38] <linuxman410> wrst how much room does a commandline install of ubuntu take
[14:45] <wrst> linuxman410:  i would think 5-600 MB
[14:46] <wrst> you can get them down fairly small probably smallar if you get into eliminating unedded kernel modules etc
[14:47] <linuxman410> wrst could i add openbox and xchat and a browser and stay below a gig
[14:48] <wrst> possibly linuxman410 i reall don't know
[14:48] <wrst> not my field of expertise at all on keeping it small
[14:52] <linuxman410> wrst ok thanks have to go to work try to catch cyberanger later
[15:13] <orias> hmmm why not dsl or puppy if space is a consideration?
[15:13] <orias> or is it somethings he's trying for s+g?
[15:28] <wrst> orias: i wondered the same thing
[15:32] <orias> puppy's pretty decent these days, even with a gui, it's still pretty small
[15:32] <wrst> yes it is
[16:41] <orias> wrst: have you had any luck with adobe air on a 64bit system?
[16:42] <orias> more to the point, http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/521/cpsid_52132.html#main_Install_AIR_2_on_64_bit_Ubuntu_9_04
[16:42] <orias> step 2 keeps failing on me, but i
[16:43] <orias> 've yet to explore any further
[17:15] <wrst> orias: never tried air period actually
[17:25] <wrst> .weather cookeville tn
[17:25] <orias> trying to see if i can use the that to run the supposed windows only pandora app
[17:25] <wrst> ahh orias cool :)
[17:26] <wrst> .weather cookeville tn
[17:26] <testbot8570> Cloudy, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.71in (1003mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KCHA 15:53Z
[19:04] <chris4585> .weather 34461
[19:04] <testbot8570> Overcast ☁, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.80in (1006mb), Thundery Rain, Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGNV, 17:59Z
[19:04] <chris4585> o.O
[19:04] <chris4585> that does not seem right...
[19:04] <chris4585> .weather lecanto fl
[19:04] <testbot8570> Overcast ☁, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.80in (1006mb), Thundery Rain, Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGNV, 17:59Z
[19:06] <wrst> chris4585: i think its a little whacked
[19:06] <chris4585> appears so, its about 87F here
[19:12] <wrst> .weather livingston tn
[19:12] <testbot8570> Cloudy, 71.6℉ (22℃), 29.69in (1002mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KCHA 17:53Z
[19:12] <wrst> that's not far from right
[19:38] <cyberanger> darnm I got sidelined last night
[19:39] <cyberanger> I see linuxman410 still must be having wifi issues
[19:40] <cyberanger> wrst: that seems a bit small, however I'll add cli tools that wouldn't be usual for some
[19:41] <cyberanger> like nmap (network mapper) for example
[19:43] <wrst> yeah
[19:43] <cyberanger> definately under a gig though, before you add much of anything
[19:43] <wrst> i'm kinda like orias i'm thinking puppy or something might be best
[19:44] <cyberanger> but idk how small one could work, and be usable (that usable bit poses challenges)
[19:44] <cyberanger> I'm working on remastering a disc so people can have an idea on my setup
[19:44] <cyberanger> not sure if and how I'd release it atm
[19:44] <wrst> cool
[19:49] <cyberanger> kinda the issue of something you make for yourself, plus bandwidth constraints over time
[19:49] <cyberanger> how much you wanna support it, for others, and how much will it cost you
[19:50] <cyberanger> two questions I have yet to fully answer
[20:42] <cyberanger> next time somebody is trying to put you down for being a geek, recall this: http://xkcd.com/898/
[22:30] <cyberanger> I hate tech support calls, wish this actually worked http://xkcd.com/806/