[00:43] <Symmetria> heh
[00:43] <Symmetria> finally
[07:19] <nuvolari> mornings
[07:23] <kbmonkey> morning back :]
[07:25]  * kbmonkey downs espresso
[07:25] <kbmonkey> mmmm stroooong
[08:05] <hihanhoesj> yellow
[10:28] <hihanhoesj> Hello anyone in here have any experience using a 3G modem with a linux server?
[10:38] <froztbyte> hihanhoesj: what's the problem?
[10:44] <hihanhoesj> Just wanna ask some questions
[10:45] <hihanhoesj> I am able to connect and everything, however when I connect to the second tty, I get all these auto generated messages, like the current rssi etc
[10:45] <hihanhoesj> I am looking to see if anyone has the AT command to turn off those messages
[10:50] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[10:50] <hihanhoesj> Top of the morning to you Kilos!
[10:51] <Kilos> ty hihanhoesj and to you too
[10:51] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[10:51]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:52] <magespawn> howdy all
[10:52]  * Kilos wonders if kodez won with his installation
[10:53] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[10:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:55] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[10:55] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[10:55] <magespawn> long time no chat
[10:55] <magespawn> whats up?
[11:05] <Kilos> nothing new. all fine with maverick. building courage up to try natty when i get cds monday or so
[11:08] <magespawn> i have not upgraded yet. i think my laptop bit old for the new version
[11:08] <Kilos> my p4 is 11 years old i think
[11:09] <Kilos> dont wanna upgrade will install on another drive
[11:10] <Kilos> maverick working too well to take a chance with upgrading
[11:10] <magespawn> yeah i am using 10.04 lucid lynx. the laptop is starting to struggle.
[11:10] <Kilos> how much ram you got?
[11:11] <Kilos> this is only a 1.7g cpu and 640m ram
[11:11] <Kilos> but maverick is quicker than 10.04 was
[11:12] <magespawn> 1.8 ghz and 512 ram but i will be putting in another 512 today.
[11:13] <Kilos> where are you magespawn 
[11:13] <magespawn> i like to keep mine on lts release. Hluhluwe.
[11:13] <Kilos> i have a 512m lappy ram just lying here
[11:13] <Kilos> oh ya
[11:13] <Kilos> whew
[11:14] <magespawn> i got two 512m yesterday from a laptop with a fried motherboard
[11:14] <Kilos> good. that will help
[11:15] <Kilos> what lappy was the fried one
[11:16] <Kilos> the drives work lekker in externals and the case is quite cheap
[11:17] <Kilos> think ian payed R100 for mine
[11:29] <Kilos> hi Chat8443 
[11:30] <Kilos> lol hihanhoesj what you doing
[11:30] <iancoetzee> hi Kilos
[11:32] <iancoetzee> logging in from my phone :)
[11:32] <Kilos> ah
[11:32] <Kilos> i sukkeled with that
[11:32] <iancoetzee> how did you make the connection?
[11:33] <Kilos> jedirc i think but gave up
[11:33] <Kilos> xchat too lekker here to go to fone
[11:33] <iancoetzee> lol
[11:34] <iancoetzee> I use my server for irc connections, normal cli irc client :)
[11:34] <Kilos> ah
[11:35] <Kilos> but its like a permanent sms
[11:35] <Kilos> like mxit on fone
[11:35] <iancoetzee> just downloaded a irc client for black berry
[11:35] <Kilos> mxit in pidgin much better
[11:35] <iancoetzee> but I dislike mxit :)
[11:36] <Kilos> i onmly use it for family
[11:36] <Kilos> boet has a BB. are the keys tiny
[11:37] <iancoetzee> I don't use it at all... used to though
[11:37] <iancoetzee> takes getting used to, yes
[11:38] <Kilos> actually mxit was the first means of connecting directly to peeps i learned about
[11:38] <Kilos> before pc's
[11:38] <iancoetzee> yup, that's true
[11:39] <Kilos> and all the family use mxit on their fones so i kep it open in pidgin
[11:39] <iancoetzee> lol for that reason I keep open my thunderbird
[11:40] <iancoetzee> that way I can ignore the mails if I want to
[11:42] <magespawn> kilos it was hp pavilion 
[11:42] <Kilos> what mails
[11:42] <Kilos> ah ty magespawn 
[11:42] <Kilos> no mails in pidgin iancoetzee 
[11:43] <nuvolari> Kilos: middag oom :.
[11:43] <iancoetzee> Kilos: the mail they send if they want to chat
[11:43] <nuvolari> *:>
[11:43] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[11:43] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit met oom?
[11:43] <magespawn> have xchat on the phone. what phone you using iancoetzee?
[11:43] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[11:43] <nuvolari> hell iancoetzee, welcome
[11:43] <nuvolari> kan nie kla nie dankie oom
[11:43] <magespawn> hi nuvolari
[11:43] <nuvolari> hello magespawn
[11:44] <iancoetzee> BB bold 9700
[11:44] <iancoetzee> nuvolari: Hi
[11:44] <magespawn> and how do you like it so far?
[11:44] <iancoetzee> a lot
[11:45] <magespawn> how is the bb hardware?
[11:45] <nuvolari> :? BB? Beyond Bricked?
[11:45] <nuvolari> :P
[11:45] <iancoetzee> quite responsive for a smart phone
[11:46] <magespawn> i am a nokia fan myself
[11:46] <nuvolari> *for a BB *cough*
[11:46] <nuvolari> ok, i'll stop
[11:46] <Kilos> lol
[11:47] <iancoetzee> nuvolari: so what do you use? an iPhone?
[11:47] <magespawn> hah
[11:47] <nuvolari> puhleeze!
[11:47] <nuvolari> that's an insult
[11:47] <magespawn> you could get shot for that one
[11:47] <nuvolari> magespawn: hand me my spear
[11:47] <nuvolari> :P
[11:48] <iancoetzee> oh crap
[11:48] <Kilos> lol
[11:48] <nuvolari> If it's not running linux, it's not worthy of mentioning 
[11:48] <nuvolari> :> I luv my Hero
[11:49] <nuvolari> Android
[11:49] <magespawn> well i am using an E63 not quite linux
[11:49] <hihanhoesj> Ahhah
[11:49] <magespawn> my other is a n900
[11:49] <hihanhoesj> now that I have my 3G back up, I can continue here :)
[11:50] <magespawn> just had a look at the bb 9700 on gsmarena.com looks like a decent phone.
[11:50] <nuvolari> My phone is a bit outdated now, but still rocking my world :> One can't say that about most other phones after a year
[11:51] <hihanhoesj> and I rest my case :)
[11:51] <nuvolari> *meaning non-android :P
[11:51] <nuvolari> hihanhoesj: were you carrying it all the time?
[11:51] <hihanhoesj> carrying what
[11:51] <hihanhoesj> ?
[11:51] <nuvolari> your case
[11:52] <hihanhoesj> ah well now that you put it that way
[11:52] <hihanhoesj> it was getting quite heavy
[11:52] <hihanhoesj> with all the BB insults flying my way :)
[11:53] <Kilos> lol
[11:53] <nuvolari> sorry, you mentioned it at your own risk
[11:53] <nuvolari> :P
[11:53] <nuvolari> you betrayed the brotherhood
[11:54] <nuvolari> *and couple of sisters
[11:54] <hihanhoesj> hmm I was asked a question, so I answered it in all honesty
[11:54] <hihanhoesj> would you rather I *gulp* lie?
[11:54] <Kilos> weather strange. we got a fig tree that starts budding when summer is close but this year it already has figs on
[11:55] <hihanhoesj> nuvolari: what is wrong with the phone, you know it runs a linux based os, dont you?
[11:55] <Kilos> hi panfriedsidh 
[11:56] <froztbyte> hihanhoesj: eh, a blackberry?
[11:56] <panfriedsidh> greetings
[11:57] <hihanhoesj> froztbyte: I pleed the fith
[11:57] <froztbyte> no
[11:57] <froztbyte> 11:01:08 < hihanhoesj> nuvolari: what is wrong with the phone, you know it runs a linux based os, dont you?
[11:57] <froztbyte> what phone did you mean with that?
[11:57] <hihanhoesj> the one you mentioned
[11:58] <froztbyte> yes, okay
[11:58] <froztbyte> and no, it doesn't
[11:58] <froztbyte> it's their own thing
[11:59] <hihanhoesj> ok I concede your point, however I did see it displaying a folder structure on the phone once
[12:00] <hihanhoesj> I was in my home dir and it was at the path /home/user/
[12:00] <froztbyte> so you assumed it was linux? *chuckle*
[12:00] <nuvolari> lol
[12:00] <hihanhoesj> I concede thats my only proof...
[12:00] <froztbyte> there's a lot of systems which use that style of filesystem layout
[12:00] <froztbyte> hell, linux inherited it from unix
[12:01] <hihanhoesj> and its entirely circumstantial
[12:01] <hihanhoesj> thats whay I am not pushing my point
[12:01] <froztbyte> hehe
[12:01] <froztbyte> anyway, RimOS or whatever it's called is entirely their own thing
[12:01] <nuvolari> ok, I think we gave you enough grief hihanhoesj :P sorry for that
[12:01] <nuvolari> I'll really stop now
[12:01] <Kilos> anything that works is better than nothing at all
[12:02] <hihanhoesj> nuvolari: you will realise soon enough, that I am very thick skinned
[12:02] <nuvolari> Kilos: so you say windoze is nothing? :D
[12:02] <hihanhoesj> Kilos: agreed
[12:03] <Kilos> what windoze
[12:03] <Kilos> whats
[12:03] <Kilos> that gates thing?
[12:03] <nuvolari> Kilos: ye, that thing
[12:03] <froztbyte> hihanhoesj: regarding your initial question, that's probably dependent on what modem you've got
[12:03] <hihanhoesj> and on top of that thick skin I always wear an asbestos suite. Your pyrotechnics just bounces of me :)
[12:04] <hihanhoesj> froztbyte: Thats what I thought
[12:04] <Kilos> i had to use xp to actually install a foreign usb modem to be able to unlock it
[12:04] <Kilos> so it has its uses
[12:05] <hihanhoesj> So I rephrase my question, anyone got experience using a Vodaphone K3565 on a headless linux server?
[12:08] <Kilos> hihanhoesj, ask maaz to google that for you
[12:08] <Kilos> Maaz, google using a Vodaphone K3565 on a headless linux server?
[12:08] <Maaz> Kilos: "3G modem - command line | debianHELP" http://www.debianhelp.org/node/15672 :: "Desktop Hardware Compatibility List. [Archive] - Page 3 - Ubuntu ..." http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-361236-p-3.html :: "Networking & Wireless [Archive] - Page 172 - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-336-p-172.html
[12:08] <Kilos> maybe you get what you need there
[12:09] <hihanhoesj> my problem is that I dont have the full AT commandset for the modem
[12:12] <hihanhoesj> hmm no luck, ty anyway Kilos
[12:12] <Kilos> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411314
[12:12] <hihanhoesj> I will just have to live with the iritation :)
[12:13] <Kilos> no man everything is fixable
[12:13] <hihanhoesj> I am able to connect
[12:14] <hihanhoesj> but when I try go into the second tty, it gives me neverending information
[12:14] <magespawn> okay then i have a kworld dvd usb maker that i want to use on linux. any help with that?
[12:14] <hihanhoesj> which makes typing AT commands impossible
[12:14] <hihanhoesj> I am looking for the AT command to turn the auto output off
[12:16] <hihanhoesj> hmm I think I might have to write a wrapper program to ignore all auto output...
[12:18] <magespawn> kilos ^
[12:18] <magespawn> okay then i have a kworld dvd usb maker that i want to use on linux. any help with that?
[12:18] <Kilos> ask maaz magespawn 
[12:18] <Kilos> i will try
[12:19] <magespawn> Maaz, google using Kworld dvd maker on linux?
[12:19] <Maaz> magespawn: "Kworld Xpert DVD Maker USB 2.0 Capture Card - VideoHelp.com" http://www.videohelp.com/capturecards/kworld-xpert-dvd-maker-usb-2-0/354 :: "Kworld Xpert DVD Maker PCI Capture Card - VideoHelp.com" http://www.videohelp.com/capturecards/kworld-xpert-dvd-maker-pci/465 :: "kworld dvd maker 2 help" http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/315125-kworld-dvd-maker-2-help :: "[ubuntu] Kworld DVD Maker USB - Maplin A65HG - Ubuntu Forums" http://
[12:20] <Kilos> Maaz,  google using a kworld dvd usb maker on ubuntu
[12:20] <Maaz> Kilos: "[ubuntu] Kworld DVD Maker USB - Maplin A65HG - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856712 :: "Troubleshoot USB - How To Information | eHow.com" http://www.ehow.com/troubleshoot-usb/ :: "Kworld Ub445 Ubuntu - - Product Reviews, Compare Prices, and Shop ..." http://www.shopping.com/kworld-ub445-ubuntu/products :: "Kworld usb 2.0 expert video dvd maker kw usb2800d and more at PTF" http://ptf.com/kworld/kworld+usb+2.
[12:20] <Kilos> lol
[12:20] <Kilos> you faster than me
[12:20] <nuvolari> hihanhoesj: whyt dont you try wvdial?
[12:20] <nuvolari> I think it's a lot easier than issuing AT commands
[12:20] <magespawn> i searched on linux not ubuntu
[12:21] <hihanhoesj> nuvolari: I already use wvdial
[12:21] <hihanhoesj> to make a connection
[12:21] <Kilos> arent you using ubuntu magespawn 
[12:21] <nuvolari> oh, ya :P i forgot it uses AT in the config
[12:21] <hihanhoesj> but I want to monitor my signal strength
[12:21] <nuvolari> hihanhoesj: any reason why?
[12:22] <nuvolari> if you really need that, VMC for you I guess
[12:22] <hihanhoesj> Information is power :)
[12:22] <nuvolari> hihanhoesj: there was a tool... the name escapes me
[12:22] <hihanhoesj> does vmc not work on headed machines?
[12:23] <nuvolari> hihanhoesj: wammu
[12:23] <nuvolari> hihanhoesj: ah, forgot the headless mode
[12:23] <hihanhoesj> :) lemme check something...
[12:23] <hihanhoesj> ty
[12:24] <nuvolari> ok, it's the wrong way round. wammu is the gui, and gammu is the CLI app
[12:25] <hihanhoesj> thats right...
[12:25] <nuvolari> I did not work with it extensively, but it worked with my Huawei E1690
[12:25] <hihanhoesj> tbh, I never even thought about gammu/wammu
[13:01] <magespawn> kilos i am so much better search from you 
[13:01] <Kilos> did you win magespawn ?
[13:01] <magespawn> this should work  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856712
[13:01] <Kilos> yay
[13:01] <Kilos> i add ubuntu to all searches
[13:02] <magespawn> will try it when I get home. want to add the extra ram first.
[13:02] <Kilos> there is so much in the forums that someone else has already worked out
[13:02] <Kilos> ubuntu loves lotsa ram
[13:03] <Kilos> lemme know the speed diffs
[13:03] <magespawn> will do. got to go work now later.
[14:50] <magespawn> howdy all
[14:52] <Kilos> you back
[14:52] <Kilos> youat work now
[14:56] <magespawn> well back the pc at work yup.
[14:56] <magespawn> at^
[14:57] <Kilos> ah
[14:58] <magespawn> could not install the ram only one slot on the motherboard. did put in a wireless network card though.
[14:58] <magespawn> trying to get it to work.
[15:00] <Kilos> aw no place for more ram
[15:00] <magespawn> does not look like it
[15:00] <Kilos> maybe keep eyes open then for a 1g that is same size
[15:00] <Kilos> they normally 2 next to each other
[15:01] <magespawn> yup
[15:02] <magespawn> got to go later all
[15:03] <Kilos> maybe they snuck one space under a cover or something
[15:03] <Kilos> have you got the manual
[15:05] <Kilos> seems dumb to only take 512m ram
[15:09] <Kilos> designed for xp i suppose
[15:27] <nuvolari> lol Kilos 
[15:27] <nuvolari> maybe you're right :>
[15:28] <Kilos> lol
[15:28] <Kilos> even my old p4 had a sticker. designed for windows
[15:31] <nuvolari> Kilos: it's only to make people think that
[15:31] <nuvolari> :/
[15:31] <Kilos> hi kodez did you win
[15:32] <Kilos> yeah nuvolari . first thing i removed
[15:32] <kodez> hi kilos, i had not yet met solly. i will check him either later today or monday
[15:32] <Kilos> ah
[15:34] <kodez> do you why a vodacom 3g modem doesn't connect automatically without starting the pc with it connected?
[15:34] <kodez> anyone can help, please
[15:35] <Kilos> in nm you gotta tick a little block
[15:35] <Kilos> in vpn connections
[15:35] <Kilos> you go to the broadband section
[15:36] <Kilos> then tick voda or whatever and edit
[15:37] <kodez> it doesn't show at all in the nm
[15:37] <Kilos> then at the top left..connect automatically
[15:37] <Kilos> ok then go to broadband and go add
[15:38] <Kilos> then you should see a choice of service providers
[15:40] <Kilos> oh wait some
[15:40] <Kilos> have you installed usb_modeswitch
[15:40] <kodez> it seems it can't mount the 3g modem and can't show in the nm. i had configured it 100%. i am using it as we chat
[15:40] <Kilos> its in synaptic
[15:41] <Kilos> your pc sees the modem as storage without usb-modeswitch
[15:42] <Kilos> are you using a usb modem now
[15:43] <kodez> yes, i'm using a usb modem
[15:43] <Kilos> whew then its something in the vodacom one
[15:43] <Kilos> whew
[15:45] <Kilos> i member with ian my son he had to delete the broadband stuff in vpn connections and then add them again
[15:45] <kodez> the interesting thing is that, i can only mount it only if i connect it before starting my pc
[15:46] <Kilos> what happens if you remove everything from vpn and unplug modem and restart pc and then plug in the modem
[15:47] <Kilos> doesnt it then ask for new broadband connection
[15:48] <kodez> it won't work. it's not a problem of connecting to the internet but it's a problem to identify the device
[15:49] <Kilos> not because it already knows the one you got in there?
[15:49] <Kilos> lsusb
[15:50] <Kilos> then you will see if it sees it as the correct one
[15:51] <Kilos> but from there we need a clever persons help cause i cant work them out without it in front of me
[15:53] <kodez> the challenge is to connect to internet with another pc while troubleshooting this one. i will put a pause for now on this matter
[15:54] <Kilos> ok
[15:55] <Kilos> also i think superfly said something about wvdial for some modems
[16:03] <nuvolari> kodez: ping
[16:04] <nuvolari> kodez: send me a pastebin of "lsusb -v"
[16:05] <nuvolari> please
[16:05] <nuvolari> :P
[16:40]  * nlsthzn waves
[17:00] <Squirm2> poel
[17:03] <kodez> hi nuvolari, this is the link. http://paste.ubuntu.com/607452/
[19:53] <Kilos> nuvolari, ping
[19:54] <superfly> Maaz: tell kodez you have a Huawei E220
[19:54] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell kodez on freenode
[19:54] <Kilos> lol
[19:54] <superfly> Maaz: tell kodez if you just plug it in, it should work out of the box
[19:54] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell kodez on freenode
[19:55] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[19:55] <superfly> hi oom Kilos
[19:55] <Squirm> hello
[19:55] <Kilos> methinks thats his prob. it doesnt want to
[19:55] <superfly> eish, I'm tired this evening
[19:55] <Kilos> rest old man
[19:56] <Kilos> one only gets tired from not enough rest
[19:56] <Kilos> lo Squirm 
[20:10]  * nlsthzn waves
[20:10]  * Kilos waves back to ahab land
[20:12] <nlsthzn> Hey Mr. Kilos sir :)
[20:12] <Kilos> hehe hi Neil
[20:12] <Kilos> :-)
[20:12] <Kilos> hard work these text smileys
[20:13] <nlsthzn> and nowadays I say people doing them the other way around too... like (:
[20:13] <Kilos> lol
[20:13] <Kilos> i like pidgin. yu see the faces
[20:14] <nlsthzn> ah yes... :)
[20:14] <Kilos> and the hearts like <3
[20:15] <nlsthzn> :) I can't see it like you do :p
[20:16] <Kilos> do you ever use pidgin or msn i think also does it
[20:16] <Kilos> just type it in there and see
[20:16] <Kilos> xchat sees only text
[20:16] <nlsthzn> oh, I know how it looks :) I use them for IM... but not for IRC
[20:17] <Kilos> oh ok lol
[20:19] <Kilos> maybe a cuppa will help for the cold
[20:19] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[20:19]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[20:19] <nlsthzn> Maaz, coffee please
[20:19] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Righto
[20:19] <nlsthzn> :)
[20:19] <Kilos> yay
[20:21] <Kilos> Maaz, move  it
[20:21] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[20:21] <Kilos> grrr
[20:21] <Kilos> Maaz, move it
[20:21] <Maaz> Don't rush me Kilos . Making decent coffee is an art
[20:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and nlsthzn!
[20:23] <nlsthzn> Maaz: thank you
[20:23] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Okay :-)
[20:23] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[20:23] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[20:23] <nlsthzn> hehe
[21:16] <nuvolari> o/
[21:17] <Kilos> die outjie wat sukkel met modem is weg nou seun
[21:17] <Kilos> die vlieg se daai ene hoort sommer te werk
[21:26] <Symmetria> heh dammit my boot drive in my pc is making really really really horrible noises
[21:26] <Symmetria> and Im pretty sure its got may be a few hours left in it at most
[21:26] <Symmetria> :p
[21:26] <Kilos> eish
[21:32] <magellanic> hoi hoi
[21:32] <Kilos> hi magellanic 
[21:34] <nuvolari> hmm, does anyone know how to get rid of geckos?
[21:34] <nuvolari> no, not firefox
[21:34] <nuvolari> :P
[21:34] <Kilos> shoot them with a pellet gun
[21:35] <superfly> nuvolari: why would you want to get rid of geckos? apart from being awesome, they eat the bugs that bother you
[21:36] <magellanic> like mosquitoes
[21:49] <Kilos> night all . sleep warm
[21:50] <magellanic> later
[22:00] <nlsthzn> Night all
[23:49] <confluency> nuvolari: what did the poor geckos ever do to you?