[00:00] <DasEi> !lts | haunt_house
[00:00] <Alan502> !mupen
[00:00] <Alan502> !mupen64
[00:00] <bazhang> DasEi, eol
[00:00] <Alan502> !mupen64plus
[00:00] <Alan502> !emulator
[00:00] <Alan502> do you know of any other n64 emulator?
[00:01] <bazhang> Alan502, /msg ubottu please
[00:01] <DasEi> bazhang: ah, thx
[00:01] <sereal> mupen64 is the best one I belive
[00:01] <histo> Alan502: search the software store
[00:01] <histo> Alan502: or software center whatever they are calling it now
[00:01] <Alan502> histo, I already have, but mupen is the only one that shows up, i was wondering if there was another emulator somewhere else
[00:01] <sereal> apt-cache search n64
[00:01] <sereal> whats wrong with mupen?
[00:02] <histo> Alan502: there are tons.
[00:02] <haunt_house> DasEi, I'm afraid I break more stuff by upgrading. happened once
[00:02] <haunt_house> DasEi, and my pc is old
[00:02] <Alan502> sereal, I can't get to configure my joystick :/
[00:02] <Alan502> the wiki isn't being helpful
[00:02] <sereal> another emulator won't fix that.
[00:02] <DasEi> haunt_house: is some risk, but better then no more updated packages, this can break, too
[00:02] <MurdersLastCrow> Unless you're using a rolling release distribution, you tend to run into issues upgrading if you've highly customized on older packages.
[00:02] <sereal> is your joystick supported by other emulators?
[00:02] <Alan502> the joystick works, but I cannot configure it with mupen because the gui was removed
[00:02] <DasEi> haunt_house: specs of your box ?
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[00:02] <maximeWarrior>   
[00:02] <FloodBot1> maximeWarrior: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <maximeWarrior>  
[00:03] <Alan502> sereal, yes, it shows up in the joystick application
[00:03] <haunt_house> DasEi, amd 200 with 768 mb ram
[00:03] <sereal> there should be a mupen gtk I think
[00:03] <haunt_house> 2000
[00:03] <Alan502> sereal, it was removed in the last version
[00:03] <histo> Alan502: actually only mupen is showing up in the repos you may be able to find one online somewhere in a deb format.
[00:03] <sereal> is there not a config file?
[00:03] <DasEi> haunt_house: use 10.04, maybe with a lighter windowmanager than gnome
[00:04] <Alan502> sereal, there is, and I followed the instructions on the wiki to edit it, but still it didn't work for me
[00:04] <Alan502> http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/wiki/ControllerSetup
[00:04] <histo> Alan502: or you could try something like project64 in wine
[00:04] <DasEi> haunt_house: there are many improvements, also concerning footprint, and vast in bootup
[00:04] <histo> Alan502: I would check and see if they have a channel around anywhere for support
[00:04] <Alan502> in fact, the InputAutoCfg.ini file wasn't even in the directory
[00:04] <sereal> thats typical
[00:04] <tbruff13> how do i use ffmpeg to convert to mp4 audio
[00:05] <histo> Alan502: /j #mupen64plus
[00:05] <Alan502> ah, excellent, thanks histo :D
[00:05] <bazhang> tbruff13, presumably you mean extract audio
[00:05] <haunt_house> DasEi, I could deal with that all if they just wouldn't change the interface. I'm too old to constantly relearn things (Haunt_House switches to steampowered calculator)
[00:05] <histo> tbruff13: http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html  there are some examples here.
[00:06] <MurdersLastCrow> What do you want an .mp4 for? The options you use depend a lot on what you plan to use the .mp4 on.
[00:06] <histo> tbruff13: and I believe examples on usage in the man page
[00:06] <tbruff13> bazhang, I mean how do i use the frontend winff to convert files from mp3 to mp4 audio
[00:06] <MagusOTB> Does anybody know of a simpleish program that can open powerpoint files?
[00:06] <MagusOTB> I don't need a full office suite, I just need to look at lecture slides from my classes.
[00:06] <MurdersLastCrow> Assuming you have WinFF open, what exactly is the first step you get caught on?
[00:07] <histo> tbruff13: http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC18 is the section on audio converting.  but basically ffmpeg -i /file/you/want/converted.whatever /file/you/want/out.mp4
[00:07] <DasEi> haunt_house: again, then use lucid, I can understand you, for now I'm also flewing unity
[00:07] <acicula> or you could use something like handbrake for a nice gui program to convert media
[00:07] <Bartzy> There's a command to show the unique lines for file1 vs file2.. anyone remembers what it is ? :)
[00:08] <DasEi> Bartzy: diff ?
[00:08] <haunt_house> DasEi, ich probiers mal als live cd
[00:08] <Bartzy> DasEi: No, diff shows difference. I want to show uniq
[00:08] <histo> Bartzy: you want to compare two files?
[00:08] <recent> can someone tell me where does recentmanager store its data?
[00:08] <histo> Bartzy: well the difference would be uniq
[00:08] <DasEi> Bartzy: just display ? cat..
[00:08] <Bartzy> histo: Just remembered. called comm
[00:08] <phox_> Hello! After I woke my computer up, I have this big red box with the number 1 in it. What is this, and how do i get rid of it?!
[00:09] <histo> Bartzy: sdiff is side by side differences
[00:09] <DasEi> comm for compare, tricky to remember
[00:09] <maximeWarrior>  
[00:09] <maximeWarrior>   
[00:09] <FloodBot1> maximeWarrior: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <histo> Bartzy: you could have found by apropos compare
[00:12] <histo> Bartzy: or man -k compare
[00:12] <a5face> got it
[00:13] <tbruff13> does anyone use pithos
[00:13] <Sabatini> Hey guys, I am trying to test 11.04 on a live CD but now it is asking for a login, I never made any accounts so does anyone know how to get around this?
[00:13] <LjL> Sabatini: try "ubuntu" and no password
[00:13] <OY1R> Sabatini, [Enter]
[00:15] <DasEi> tbruff13: no, what's that ?
[00:15] <tbruff13> DasEi, it is a pandora frontend
[00:15] <histo> hrm.... fdisk -l doesn't print improper permissions when you run it without sudo. it just exits 0
[00:16] <tbruff13> Does anyone that uses this software know what it means whenever pithos says end of playlist detected
[00:16] <DasEi> tbruff13: no idea, you compiled it ?
[00:16] <tbruff13> DasEi, search pithos ubuntu
[00:16] <Sabatini> Neither of those worked so I just rebooted booting from the CD again
[00:19] <tbruff13> yes I am trying to convert to mpeg 4 audio and I am using the frontend sinthgunt and whenever I try to use mp4 i get this error You have selected a preset which is (probably) not supported by your version of ffmpeg. To upgrade ffmpeg, please check your distribution documentation.
[00:19] <tbruff13>  If you want, you may disregard this warning and check the log file (sinthgunt.log) after pressing the convert button
[00:19] <tbruff13> How do i get the newest version of ffmpeg
[00:19] <DasEi> tbruff13: right, I stop boggling, as I don't now it, ppa there :), but mmedia:
[00:19] <DasEi> !medibuntu
[00:20] <tbruff13> DasEi, ok help
[00:21] <tbruff13> DasEi, okay once i install the repository how do i upgrade ffmpeg
[00:22] <DasEi> tbruff13: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:22] <tbruff13> DasEi, okay trying it
[00:24] <tripelb> I want an equalizer -10.04- and am not clear if this works for me ->  http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/954-add-equalizer-for-pulse-audio-in-ubuntu-lucid-lynx
[00:26] <pfifo> you call that an equalizer?
[00:26] <tbruff13> It worked yay
[00:33] <shmup> ubuntu vps, 10.04, when i log i see 0 packages can be updated, but beneath it 17 packages/11 security. nothing will upgrade/dist-upgrade. finds nothing.
[00:33] <shmup> http://pastie.org/1898668
[00:33] <shmup> thoughts? ~.~
[00:33] <welaunchit> Hi, folks: Having an issue where certain windows in Gnome "white out" on maximize. This behavior seems to be tied to the Natty upgrade. Any ideas on remediation?
[00:34] <michaeltomer> I've just updated to Natty from Lucid, and suddenly my wifi dongle started working (Yay!). Unfortunately, it only works in a Unity/Gnome session. Any idea why that might be?
[00:35] <DasEi> tripelb: for lucid ? I re-tried in a vm, want the line ?
[00:35] <joshmc> anyone have any ideas on how to implement a linux usb-boot/qemu system on usb a la http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/index.html ? take a minute to look the link over before saying no or hell no, hah.
[00:36] <macpimpGm> ṣ̜̜͈̟͋ͧ́ͫ̆ͣͯͦ̊̂͒̀͛̃͊̂̀̕h̛͈̗̻̼̥̱̹̺͓̺̱̯͓̉ͭ̐͆͢͟ǘ̡̘̝͎͎̠̔̂̈́̔̓̃̍͊̔̉ͥ̓ͧ̿̈͂̚͢t̵̷̵̸̶͈͈͉͉̬̲̻̟̞͖̼̼̗ͤͨͧ͒ ̎̅ͦ̐ͧ̅͌̓̔̍̾̆͆̋̐͗̇̀̀̚͡҉̬̙͎̭̳̞͙͙̫͓̜̲͈̠̤͍͈t̢̛̘͖̼̙̙͊̑͆ͣͥͩͤͪ̏̉͑̿̃̈͌̈͊̊̈h͐̈͌ͫ́͏͖̳̟̥͓̭̲̞͔͇͔͎̰͕ẻ̵̷̷̺͚͙̙̤̘̍̒̔ͭͨ͗̓͊ͦ̆̀͒̉́́ ̋̒̏̊ͮ͐̎ͨ͑̔̈́̈́ͫ̉̚Í
[00:36] <joshmc> lol, nice.
[00:37] <macpimpGm> ṣ̜̜͈̟͋ͧ́ͫ̆ͣͯͦ̊̂͒̀͛̃͊̂̀̕h̛͈̗̻̼̥̱̹̺͓̺̱̯͓̉ͭ̐͆͢͟ǘ̡̘̝͎͎̠̔̂̈́̔̓̃̍͊̔̉ͥ̓ͧ̿̈͂̚͢t̵̷̵̸̶͈͈͉͉̬̲̻̟̞͖̼̼̗ͤͨͧ͒ ̎̅ͦ̐ͧ̅͌̓̔̍̾̆͆̋̐͗̇̀̀̚͡҉̬̙͎̭̳̞͙͙̫͓̜̲͈̠̤͍͈t̢̛̘͖̼̙̙͊̑͆ͣͥͩͤͪ̏̉͑̿̃̈͌̈͊̊̈h͐̈͌ͫ́͏͖̳̟̥͓̭̲̞͔͇͔͎̰͕ẻ̵̷̷̺͚͙̙̤̘̍̒̔ͭͨ͗̓͊ͦ̆̀͒̉́́ ̋̒̏̊ͮ͐̎ͨ͑̔̈́̈́ͫ̉̚Í
[00:37] <shmup> http://pastie.org/1898668
[00:37] <sahip> Hello, I am trying to remove the resize-grip area at the lower-right corner of each window. I have been told to edit my gtkrc file and set GtkWindow::resize-grip:width and height properties but they have no effect. what should I do?
[00:37] <shmup> an update problem. saying 0, and 17 when i login to vps.
[00:38] <localhost3000> anyone else having trouble reordering the launcher list in 11.04? kind of frustrated that I can't figure it out
[00:38] <FloatingGoat> localhost3000: you pull it to the right
[00:38] <FloatingGoat> pull the icons to the right
[00:38] <localhost3000> ahhhh
[00:38] <localhost3000> so simple!
[00:38] <FloatingGoat> localhost3000: yeah :)
[00:38] <localhost3000> yet so mysterious
[00:38] <localhost3000> thank you!
[00:39] <FloatingGoat> localhost3000: no problem! :D
[00:39] <jumi> Hi guys
[00:39] <Doonz> so if im running an app through x when i close my connection will that app stop running?
[00:39] <FloatingGoat> glad I can help :D
[00:39] <jumi> anyone knows anything about python + skype4py?
[00:39] <Bangkalan> «¤‹¤«¤‹¤«¤‹¤
[00:40] <michaeltomer> Doonz: No, not unless you terminate the x session.
[00:40] <DasEi> tripelb: ?
[00:40] <zer0fun> does anyone here have sandy bridge video working with acceleration
[00:40] <uabn93> I just got an nvidia 6200 for my old rig :) and I get three options for the drivers. I know one says "recommended" but what are the other ones? outdated drivers?
[00:40] <atari_314> hey guys, some really weird "bug" here... xterm experiencing slowdowns and freezes. anyone else having this issue?
[00:40] <Doonz> michaeltomer: im running gparted through putty. if i loose my internet connect my putty connection will be lost. will that kill gparted?
[00:41] <DasEi> uabn93: reecommended is most compatible, others will work, too
[00:42] <michaeltomer> Doonz: You could do a sanity check. Set up a script (whatever language you like) to just sit idle for an hour. Start it in the terminal, log out, log back in, and see if it comes up in the process list.
[00:42] <michaeltomer> Doonz: If you've got Ruby, a script like "sleep 9999999" would do the trick.
[00:42] <Doonz> uggg
[00:43] <michaeltomer> If "ps aux | grep ruby" returns anything other then itself, then it worked.
[00:43] <Doonz> i shoulda thought about this sooner but i didnt think it would take this long to resize a partition
[00:43] <michaeltomer> ^other than
[00:43] <qin> Doonz: You could run parted in screen, there are screenlike tweaks for gui too.
[00:43] <michaeltomer> Are you resizing a currently mounted volume?
[00:43] <Doonz> its not mounted
[00:43] <qin> Doonz: Oh, you already started...
[00:44] <Doonz> yeah
[00:45] <uabn93> DasEi: are these drivers proprietary or open source?
[00:45] <uabn93> DasEi: ok nevermind.. :|
[00:45] <michaeltomer> Something like tmux would have worked wonderfully, if you hadn't started yet. I can't recommend tmux highly enough for flakey internet connections with SSH.
[00:46] <trism> sahip: this worked for me, copy it to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/607225/
[00:46] <qin> tmux is good for ssh (but bad for gui)
[00:47] <Evrynmtken> Hai
[00:47] <DasEi> uabn93: propitary
[00:47] <tbruff13> does anyone use the ffmpeg frontend winff
[00:47] <michaeltomer> Doonz: Are you using RDP, or just piping the x session straight over ssh?
[00:47] <joshmc> anyone have any ideas on how to implement a linux usb-boot/qemu system on usb a la http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/index.html ? There's alot of puppy specific stuff there, I'm looking more for a general approach if possible.
[00:48] <histo> Doonz: if you ssh or putty with xfording then use screen and run the GUI app it will stay running if you get disconnected
[00:48] <h4writer> I'm gonna try again, because I haven't found it yet: Where does unity saves the setting/.desktop file of a launcher created by right clicking and clicking 'Keep in launcher'
[00:48] <h4writer> in unity obviously
[00:49] <histo> h4writer: somewher ein your home
[00:49] <histo> h4writer: try locate or find and find the launcher name you created in your home
[00:49] <trism> h4writer: it doesn't create a new desktop file for that, it is added to dconf, com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites
[00:50] <h4writer> trism, ah gonna look at that :D
[00:50] <michaeltomer> My wifi dongle only works in Natty if I use Unity/Gnome. I like using i3 when programming, so it's a bit of a pain. Any idea why it only works in Gnome?
[00:50] <trism> h4writer: or desktop/unity/launcher/favorites in dconf-editor
[00:51] <Kizza> hay
[00:51] <Kizza> whats the code for terminal is i want to launch something from my home folder
[00:51] <michaeltomer> Kizza: Like a script?
[00:51] <IdleOne> Kizza: usually it is the name of the application
[00:52] <qin> Kizza: cd ~ && ./something
[00:52] <tbruff13> how would I add a Mp4 audio preset to Winff the frontend for ffmpeg
[00:52] <DrNoone> Hi! The wireless signal strength tooltip on the notifier is missing on my natty install (Gnome Classic not Unity). It's just me or it's a known bug/feature?
[00:52] <h4writer> trism, last time I checked it wasn't in desktop/unity-2d/launcher/favorites. And it still isn't, so it will be in the other
[00:53] <h4writer> trism, with dconf-editor, you ment gconf-editor probably?
[00:53] <tucemiux> tbruff13, that's not a problem with ubuntu, maybe someone in #opensourcemusicians can help you, you could try the room at another time
[00:53] <trism> h4writer: no I meant dconf-editor
[00:53] <kjxl9> hey, im used to windows so i need to know, where are program files?
[00:53] <DrNoone> kjxl9, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:53] <Doonz> michaeltomer:  piping the x session over ssh
[00:53] <trism> h4writer: gnome apps are migrating from gconf to gsettings
[00:54] <kjxl9> 11.04
[00:54] <h4writer> trism, ah ok, gonna install dconf then
[00:54] <qin> kjxl9: /bin/ /usr/bin/ /usr/sbin/ /usr/local/bin/ (command: which <program name> or locate <program name> to try)
[00:54] <DrNoone> kjxl9, you mean the menu shortcuts or the actual files?
[00:55] <michaeltomer> Doonz: Unfortunately I don't have any experience with doing it that way. I know that if you use VNC then the x session would still be there until you manually kill it.
[00:55] <Doonz> yeah
[00:55] <Doonz> ugg i hope i didnt royally screw up
[00:55] <kjxl9> like, i need to extract files to where program files are
[00:55] <h4writer> trism, is there a specific reason to ditch gconf for gsettings? I suppose speed related?
[00:56] <kjxl9> so the actual files
[00:56] <DrNoone> kjxl9, that's not the way you install programs on linux
[00:56] <DrNoone> what are you trying to do?
[00:56] <kjxl9> i know
[00:56] <qin> kjxl9: Oh, echo $PATH will give you available paths, or exact anywhere and add path
[00:57] <DrNoone> kjxl9, it's what qin said
[00:57] <qin> kjxl9: second option is abit better
[00:57] <adubz> im stuck at grub rescue prompt
[00:57] <michaeltomer> Doonz: How long has the drive been partitioning?
[00:57] <trism> h4writer: I'm not sure the reasoning behind the change, or why the editor is called dconf-editor, but the command line app is gsettings. I imagine it is to simplify the apis, since gsettings is part of glib, while gconf is a separate library
[00:58] <Doonz> well i did the grow partition already and it ran e2fsk 2 times now
[00:58] <Doonz> i didnt realize that gparted would start running resize2fs i thought that was a step i would have to do manually
[00:58] <qin> *extract (geez)
[00:58] <Doonz> resize2fs has been running for 3hours. its going from 5tb to 10tb
[00:58] <adubz> how can i recover my system from a grub rescue> prompt
[00:59] <trism> h4writer: oh right, I believe GSettings can have multiple backends, and dconf is one of them
[00:59] <michaeltomer> Doonz: That seems like quite a while, but a 5tb increase is reasonably large.
[01:00] <Doonz> yeah
[01:00] <Serengaeth> Anyone, can Skype be run on Ubuntu 11.04, or is there a compatible alternative?
[01:00] <Doonz> michaeltomer: but now my day is almost done at work and its still not finished
[01:00] <itaylor57> Serengaeth: I have skype on natty
[01:00] <Doonz> so i was trying to see that if i lost my putty session if resize2fs would keep running or would it terminate cause gparted would terminate
[01:01] <h4writer> I checked desktop/unity/launcher/favorites, but didn't found it there
[01:01] <michaeltomer> Do you have a VNC/RDP/NX server set up on your workstation?
[01:01] <Buttons840> i have a file which appears to be a symlink to 2438 ?     ls -l   shows   "file -> 2438"   what does this mean?
[01:01] <Doonz> no its a headless server
[01:01] <Serengaeth> itaylor57: I downloaded the most recent package for Ubuntu 32-bit from the Skype website and that got me nowhere. Any tips?
[01:01] <qin> Doonz: ;), see you tomorrow, iotop to monitor io activity, for 10tb lvm looks like sensible choice.
[01:01] <trism> h4writer: what exactly are you doing?
[01:02] <itaylor57> Serengaeth: I use the one from the software center
[01:02] <DrNoone> Serengaeth, what's the error? Try to launch it from xterm to see what's failing
[01:02] <Doonz> qin yeah im a rookie so i went with ext3 as the fs
[01:03] <Serengaeth> itaylor57: I'm trying that now.
[01:03] <h4writer> trism, I checked with dconf-editor, and desktop/unity/launcher/favorites contains all launchers, except the one I created by right clicking 'Keep in Launcher'
[01:03] <kerrick> Where can I find debug information from my graphics card driver?
[01:03] <h4writer> trism, and com.canonical.Unity.Launcher isn't available in dconf-editor for me
[01:03] <kerrick> Like, where on the system?
[01:03] <Serengaeth> DrNoone: Trying the Software Center now and the error is "Package Dependencies Cannto Be Resolved"
[01:04] <Doonz> its going at 50MB/s in iotop
[01:04] <trism> h4writer: you can use: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites; for that
[01:04] <DrNoone> Serengaeth, it's a fresh install of natty or just and upgrade?
[01:05] <h4writer> trism, isn't there either
[01:05] <Serengaeth> DrNoone: I'm currently running from a USB drive... am I going to have to install before Skype will run?
[01:06] <randimiller> is apache sufficient to run multiple websites on a server?
[01:06] <DrNoone> Serengaeth, try activating other repositories besides the default ones
[01:06] <qin> randimiller: Yes
[01:06] <Serengaeth> DrNoone: Can I copy/paste you the three lines of dependencies that aren't being met, please?
[01:07] <michaeltomer> randimiller: It depends on the kind of app, the traffic you expect, etc. Under the right circumstances, yes.
[01:07] <steiner> how can i install nethack falconseye or vultureseye?
[01:07] <randimiller> thank you qin
[01:07] <michaeltomer> Apache wn't be your bottleneck, though.
[01:07] <Doonz> so does anyone know what happens when resize2fs get terminated before it finisshes?
[01:07] <DrNoone> Serengaeth, ok
[01:07] <randimiller> michaeltomer: just simple blogs
[01:08] <michaeltomer> randimiller: PHP, Ruby, Python, static html files, etc?
[01:08] <randimiller> I use apache right now locally but not for live sites
[01:08] <trism> h4writer: which app are you trying to pin?
[01:08] <randimiller> michaeltomer: PHP, and html
[01:09] <michaeltomer> Using Wrodpress or something similar?
[01:09] <randimiller> yes
[01:09] <michaeltomer> ^Wordpress
[01:09] <michaeltomer> I imagine you'll be fine with low traffic.
[01:09] <qin> Doonz: In bast scenario, partition will ba raw, so you can recover it, in worst unredable (chances to brick hard drive).
[01:09] <qin> *best
[01:09] <Doonz> uggggg
[01:09] <h4writer> trism, 'firefox nightly' (just downloaded binary from firefox and ran). So it is actually just a command: ~/Build/firefox/firefox
[01:09] <michaeltomer> Maybe even moderate traffic depending on the hardware, mostly constrained by RAM.
[01:10] <randimiller> running on 16gigs of ram
[01:10] <randimiller> would that be fine?
[01:10] <michaeltomer> You'll be just fine.
[01:10] <h4writer> trism, I also tried dconf-editor, same story
[01:10] <qin> Doonz: it is local server or vps?
[01:10] <Doonz> remote server
[01:10] <atari_314> Hey guys, anyone having issues with xterm (slowdowns, freezes) on 11.04?
[01:11] <qin> Doonz: so you have root console?
[01:11] <Doonz> i can ssh into it yes
[01:11] <randimiller> just tired of paying for hosting when I have spare boxes to use for it
[01:11] <michaeltomer> atari_314: I've been fine so far, but I only upgraded esterday.
[01:11] <qin> Doonz: I mean cpanel or something
[01:11] <Doonz> no
[01:11] <Doonz> its my own server at home im just at work
[01:11] <m0sand> Hi, I've got a quick question about the sound settings. Is there a way to limit volume to 100%? The way it's now I can freely go way beyond 100 % volume which is really annoying when using volume controls to adjust volume.
[01:11] <sahip> exit
[01:12] <atari_314> its pretty weird, if I type too fast the xterm freeze for a few... or just slow blood down :(
[01:12] <qin> Doonz: and partition you resising.. is it system one or just new hard drive?
[01:12] <ackt1c> m0sand: not unless you find explicit scripting
[01:12] <Doonz> i expanded a hardware array from 5tb to 10tb
[01:12] <michaeltomer> randimiller: If it's a home connection, the only hing that might concern me would be if you have an asymmetric connection.
[01:12] <michaeltomer> ^thing
[01:12] <Doonz> so now i just resized the partition to use up all the space and now the filesystem is sresizing
[01:13] <acronics> What does it mean with the following error message?
[01:13] <acronics> 2011-05-13 16:41:57 3780 2 Status: Connecting to 127.0.0.1:990...
[01:13] <acronics> 2011-05-13 16:41:57 3780 2 Status: Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[01:13] <acronics> 2011-05-13 16:41:57 3780 2 Trace: CRealControlSocket::OnClose(111)
[01:13] <acronics> 2011-05-13 16:41:57 3780 2 Trace: CControlSocket::DoClose(64)
[01:13] <acronics> 2011-05-13 16:41:57 3780 2 Trace: CFtpControlSocket::ResetOperation(66)
[01:13] <FloodBot1> acronics: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <trism> h4writer: ahh, that is why, the launcher needs a .desktop file, right click on the desktop, choose create launcher, and make one for firefox, and you should be good (drag and drop it to the launcher)
[01:13] <m0sand> ackt1c, ah.. Ok, it's weird though. I mean, it's not a good default thing to have :S
[01:14] <randimiller> it's through cable
[01:14] <trism> h4writer: you can actually move it somewhere else before dragging it to the launcher if you don't want it cluttering up your desktop
[01:14] <h4writer> trism, I tried that already, but the problem is then, that unity doesn't match the window with the launcher
[01:14] <qin> Doonz: I'd rather leave it, and try to fix it localy in case of failure, but 5 to 10tb will take time.
[01:14] <trism> h4writer: yes, it probably still has many bugs like that, probably not much you can do
[01:14] <Doonz> yeah i was told that i would have to do the resize2fs part manually
[01:15] <trism> h4writer: except looking for a bug and/or filing one
[01:15] <Doonz> so my plan was to only use gparted to grow the partition
[01:15] <Doonz> then log into the server console through me ip-kvm and run the resize2fs from there
[01:15] <Doonz> i didnt know that it would do the resize2fs part automatically
[01:15] <michaeltomer> randimiller: Cable isn't idea, because you're sharing your connection with other subscribers in your area. You also probably have relatively low upload speed.
[01:16] <h4writer> trism, yeah I was actually hoping they used a .desktop file with an additional rule to improve matching. (like awn does). That's why I was desperate to hunt that .desktop file down ;)
[01:16] <h4writer> trism, ty for all the help
[01:16] <michaeltomer> ^ideal
[01:16] <randimiller> michaeltomer: yea didn't really think about that
[01:16] <qin> Doonz: Yes, gparted have some weak points.
[01:16] <randimiller> maybe I will test it out with one blog and see how it does
[01:16] <Doonz> yeah like the part of it actually doing the resize of the fs
[01:16] <michaeltomer> Can't hurt, right?
[01:16] <Doonz> or else there was no way i would do that remotely
[01:16] <randimiller> yep
[01:20] <Vocin> xd
[01:20] <Vocin> x
[01:20] <Vocin> dec
[01:20] <Vocin> ed
[01:20] <Vocin> e
[01:20] <FloodBot1> Vocin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <Vocin> dcde
[01:20] <Vocin> c
[01:20] <Vocin> evc
[01:21] <Doonz> qin it is going at 50MB/s so it shouldnt take that long
[01:22] <ttytt> hi guys
[01:23] <atoi> how can upstart say "start: Unknown job: supervisord" when I have /etc/init/supervisord.conf that looks like this: http://dpaste.org/ffxH/ ??
[01:23] <ttytt> why is it that in Natty when I print >1 page the spooler will spool each page individually
[01:23] <ttytt> it takes like 2 minutes to print 5 pages
[01:23] <ttytt> on a laser printer that normally takes about 5 seconds per page
[01:24] <ttytt> so it'll print a page, then the printing will stop, then it will print another, then stop another 20 seconds, then start again until the pages are done
[01:24] <ttytt> why doesn't it do them all in one shot?
[01:27] <lucas-arg> plymouth ugly while booting, ok while shuting down the pc... drivers noveau card nvidia 320m ubuntu 11.04 amd64
[01:28] <kingofswords> hi how do i check my graphics ram?
[01:32] <chaoflux> Hey all, having a bit of trouble with fresh ubuntu install 11.04 64 bit with wifi.. the menu bar notification shows a greyed out Intel Centrino Advanced N + WiMAX 6250... it says wireless is disabled by hardware switch (but that's not true, the switch is on)
[01:32] <chaoflux> any pointers? seems like this is a common card, surprised it doesn't work OOTB
[01:33] <Chiggins> Hey, does anyone know of any graphical editors for GRUB2 ?
[01:34] <QaDeS> is here anyone with experiences with SSD drives? i'm unsure if it's best to use one really fast one (PCIe), or several slower sata ones
[01:36] <urude> well shit
[01:37] <lucas-arg> nouveau boot ugly with plumouth any fix?
[01:38] <Dread> Hey guys, just bought a new SSD (my first) and went for a fresh natty install, it didnt allow me to install grub so i had to do it manually, and now when i boot up i get a grub prompt and cant get past it, this is the result of my boot info script: http://pastie.org/1898804
[01:39] <robin0800> lucas-arg, only with nvidia I hear
[01:39] <lucas-arg> robin0800: nouveau... yes nvidia... no idea about a fix?
[01:41] <robin0800> lucas-arg, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-fix-the-plymouth-boot-screen-when-using-proprietary-graphics-drivers/
[01:41] <ocmsRzr> hi, does anyone know if itis possible to run a separate window manager with unity?
[01:41] <lucas-arg> robin0800: NOUVEAU... not propietary
[01:42] <lucas-arg> NOUVEAU = OPEN SOURCE
[01:42] <paddy> may i ask how somebody can run krusader on Ubuntu 11/04 without a mouse?
[01:42] <FordPrefect>  I need to uninstall Python 2.6 and install Python 2.7 on Ubuntu. How do I do it?
[01:42] <paddy> is there a layout online with the key combos?
[01:42] <paddy> FordPrefect, apt-get (maybe with sudo) --purge (will delete configs aswell) remove <package>
[01:42] <tensorpudding> FordPrefect: python 2.7 is the default python in new versions
[01:43] <FordPrefect> I have both 2.6 and 2.7
[01:43] <paddy> will cause dependency issues for sure
[01:43] <tensorpudding> FordPrefect: why do you want to get rid of 2.6?
[01:43] <FordPrefect> and 2.6 is causing me module problems
[01:43] <FordPrefect> I cant run a module on 2.6 that i need
[01:43] <paddy> i would install it into a seperate $HOME directory when possible
[01:43] <paddy> the second software (and builkd that from source)
[01:43] <tensorpudding> because you're using 2.7?
[01:43] <FordPrefect> <sudo apt-get purge python2.6 > is the right command?
[01:43] <paddy> but its just my humble opinion
[01:43] <tensorpudding> you probably don't want to do that
[01:43] <paddy> so handle with care, please
[01:44] <tensorpudding> the reason that python 2.6 is still around, is most likely due to other packages depending on it
[01:44] <tensorpudding> removing 2.6 would cause them to break
[01:44] <FordPrefect> I see.
[01:44] <tensorpudding> but how is it you're having a module problem?
[01:44] <fcuk112> anyone know how to fix moving window slowness on intel i2500 onboard gfx?
[01:45] <ttytt> hi, why does evince print one page at a time and not all at once?
[01:47] <doc-saintly> i'm trying to live boot a computer and i'm getting "(initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0"
[01:47] <doc-saintly> i've verified the checksum, and also tried the "all_generic_ide" flag at the start screen, any ideas?
[01:48] <ttytt> ANYONE
[01:51] <ttytt> can anyone HELP ME PLEASE
[01:52] <linuxness> what do you need
[01:52] <Jordan_U> !helpme | ttytt
[01:52] <ttytt> Jordan_U, I'm sorry, it's just that I just installed 11.04 and I do a LOT of printing for my work
[01:52] <ttytt> I can't live like this
[01:53] <linuxness> whats ur problem
[01:53] <ttytt> linuxness, say I print 10 pages from Evince. It won't print one after another without delay, there will be a 20 second delay in between each page
[01:53] <ttytt> it keeps spooling each page individually
[01:53] <ttytt> until they're all done
[01:53] <robin0800> ttytt, have you checked all the printer driver settings
[01:54] <linuxness>  what printer do you have
[01:54] <ttytt> robin0800, what would i check specifically
[01:54] <ttytt> i tried installing the driver from the site
[01:54] <ttytt> Brother MFC 8440
[01:54] <Jordan_U> ttytt: Has it worked in previous Ubuntu versions?
[01:55] <ttytt> Jordan_U, i was using Windows XP before. I switched because I had enough of it
[01:55] <ttytt> I'm really enjoying Ubuntu so far, excluding this problem
[01:55] <linuxness> when you print in another program is there a delay
[01:56] <Jordan_U> !who | linuxness
[01:56] <linuxness> ttytt:when you print in another program is there a delay
[01:56] <tucemiux> ttytt, must be a setting either on the application itself or on the CUPS server
[01:56] <crlcan81> I'm having an odd problem with a pubkey in GPG. For some reason, now it says that W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4D17133CFC5D50C5
[01:57] <crlcan81> whenever I do sudo apt-get update
[01:57] <robin0800> ttytt, don't no if it helps but I have an mfc250 and had to make an lpd folder in spool first
[01:57] <tucemiux> ttytt, its also possible there is something wrong with the printer, try printing from windows again to make sure
[01:57] <Max-P>  Hi, I just installed an Ubuntu-Server on my system to get a minimal Ubuntu setup. Does anyone know why an empty system with about 30 jobs in console-only takes more than 200 Mb? My older debian install took only about 40 Mb. Why is it so RAM hungry?
[01:57] <ttytt> tucemiux, it was working earlier today
[01:57] <zus> is there a program or software for doing flash? like in cs3 or i think theyre up to cs5 now
[01:58] <ttytt> tucemiux, on Windows
[01:58] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Max-P
[01:58] <robin0800> ttytt, you did install both drivers?
[01:58] <tucemiux> ttytt, then it must be a setting on either the application or on the CUPS server, I have an ubuntu server and there is a slight delay whenever I print anything
[01:58] <Jordan_U> Max-P: Ubuntu server by default is far from minimal.
[01:59] <ttytt> linuxness, same problem when printing from Chromium
[01:59] <Max-P> Jordan_U, =/ okay, lets start over then
[01:59] <tucemiux> Max-P, youre trying to compare apples and oranges in the meat market
[02:00] <Max-P> tucemiux, What do you mean?
[02:01] <tucemiux> Max-P,  well this is an ubuntu channel, not for ubuntu server,  then debian and ubuntu server are different, minimal doesnt necessarily mean it will use less memory, dont install any services on ubuntu server and youll have low memory usage
[02:01] <rastaman> dstsdfsd
[02:02] <tjiggi_fo> Max-P, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[02:04] <crlcan81> Does anyone have experience with gpg? I'm having problems with pubkey invalidation. W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4D17133CFC5D50C5 happens any time I do sudo apt-get update.
[02:05] <linuxness> crlcan81: sometimes keys are outdates but you can try to delete and re add it
[02:06] <Max-P> tjiggi_fo, I'm not talking about disk caches, I already know this. The *applications* use almost 200 Mb, while there's only the base processes (rsyslog, cron and others like that), There's not even a full terminal height of processes in the list
[02:06] <crlcan81> I'll try.. but.. just delete it, after copying the ppa?
[02:06] <kaisar> wuz up !!!!
[02:06] <lee-x> can someone tell me how to use makeisofs?  I've got a boot.ima file i'd like to make into an .iso file
[02:08] <linuxness> crlcan81: you can use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name in terminal
[02:10] <dijonyummy> in 11.04, xvidcap can record video, but theres no audio upon playback. anyone have this problem or got it fixed?
[02:11] <Max-P> dijonyummy have you checked that it actually record the sound? (Can be seen in the sound preferences, recording tab)
[02:11] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello all, I'm running 11.04 and am looking for a program to clear all of the "recently accessed" entries for avariety of programs like Movie Player, Totem, etc.  What's the best options we've got?
[02:12] <crlcan81> found a program that gets the missing keys.
[02:12] <linuxness> dijonyummy: i dont think xvidcap captures audio check out their site
[02:12] <dijonyummy> it seems even in 10.10 got same audio problem
[02:13] <dijonyummy> man that sucks if it doesnt capture audio
[02:13] <paddy> how can i raise the volume for stuff that is played via Firefox on Ubuntu 11/04
[02:14] <escott> [TK]D-Fender, on an application specific basis i don't know but the main files are .recently-used.xbel for gnome2 and zeitgeist for unity. at present for zeitgeist you can delete things one at a time with gnome-activity-journal and blacklist folders from gnome-activity-journal
[02:19] <[TK]D-Fender> escott: Sounds selective, and painfu
[02:20] <andantino> does anyone else have problems with internal laptop mics on ubuntu?
[02:20] <escott> [TK]D-Fender, some improvements to zeitgeist history clearing are being developed
[02:20] <[TK]D-Fender> escott: I'll be sure to ask again in a few months then...
[02:21] <escott> paddy, some applications will place themselves in the volume properties and you can adjust them that way
[02:21] <awhitehatter> any favorite firewall installations out there?
[02:21] <escott> !ufw | awhitehatter
[02:21] <awhitehatter> oh, thanks escott
[02:22] <escott> paddy, but as far as i know it is only AFTER the application has opened a connection to pulse audio to start playing
[02:23] <andantino> my internal mic works on ubuntu sometimes, and others it doesnt
[02:23] <paddy> oh
[02:23] <paddy> hehe, sorry for being impatient, but i finally found it
[02:23] <paddy> large screen here
[02:23] <paddy> need to re-seizure
[02:23] <paddy> sessions etc.
[02:23] <paddy> bbiab
[02:24] <FloodBot1> paddy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <paddy> but thanks so far
[02:24] <paddy> ok, sorry. FloodBot1
[02:24] <lu5tic> hi there, i'm haveing a problem using aircrack-ng   it says i havnt changed my mac adress  with mac changeer but i clearly have
[02:24] <paddy> will tcp timestamp you now, HAL9005
[02:26] <jamiewan> is there an irc ubuntu gaming channel anyone???
[02:29] <jamiewan> silence
[02:30] <jamiewan> crickets in the background lol
[02:31] <zus> is there a program or software for doing flash? like in cs3 or i think theyre up to cs5 now
[02:34] <Guest28878> hi can any one help to upgrade my java   i have java 6.24 i want to upgrad to java 6.25
[02:35] <FloatingGoat> my friend has a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01) how do I get it workin in ubuntu 11.04?
[02:35] <adubz> sda1 is to hd0,1 as sdc1 is to _____
[02:36] <adubz> hoping someone can fill in the blank
[02:36] <zroysch> Hello. My upgrade has been stuck at this point for about a week now http://i.imgur.com/HcVIj.png Where do I go from here?
[02:36] <nuobus> Heya
[02:37] <adubz> ya this update is complete crap
[02:39] <escott> adubz, the newest grub2 will allow you to say sda/sdc
[02:39] <escott> adubz, but sdc1 is hd2,1
[02:39] <escott> zroysch, you let it run for a week?
[02:40] <zroysch> escott: more like just havent really had the time to mess with it
[02:41] <zroysch> i dont think i've ever had a successful ubuntu upgrade
[02:41] <escott> zroysch, well i would switch to a console and stop your mysql service, and see what that does
[02:43] <zroysch> oh, wow
[02:43] <zroysch> that did it escott
[02:43] <zroysch> you are a very smart man
[02:44] <zroysch> wonder why they didnt include the "stop mysql" in the upgrade script
[02:44] <dago_> duvidas sobre xfce
[02:45] <zc00gii> so
[02:45] <zc00gii> the installer is complaining that / is too small
[02:46] <zc00gii> er wait
[02:46] <zc00gii> nevermind
[02:46] <_jesse_> !java | Guest28878
[02:46] <zc00gii> bah
[02:46] <zc00gii> started formatting and crap before I pressed okay
[02:47] <zc00gii> all these newfangled installation scripts annoy me
[02:48] <escott> zroysch, they might have but it might have failed
[02:50] <greentea> hi
[02:51] <DasEi> evening greentea
[02:51] <papna_> I have an USB external SATA drive dock. I hooked it up and the disk has been spinning several minutes, but I have no indication the drive has actually been mounted. How should I proceed?
[02:51] <DasEi> papna_: sudo fdisk -l , is it found ?
[02:52] <papna_> DasEi: It doesn't look like it.
[02:52] <escott> papna_, open your filebrowser and the disk should be listed on the left, you can click on it and it will be mounted
[02:52] <szal> lsusb
[02:52] <papna_> escott: It is not.
[02:52] <DasEi> papna_: also not under places > removable ...
[02:53] <Crash1hd> ok so after upgrading to natty and removing nvidia drivers cause the nvidia96 has not been upgraded.  Running x11vnc causes the main screen to only run at 1024*768 instead of its normal 1280*1024
[02:53] <papna_> DasEi: No.
[02:53] <lolzer> hi please help me with ubuntu11.04 which i upgraded.. now i cannot find the close , minimise buttons as well as i cannot drag my window
[02:53] <EGuinn> papna_: What filesystem is it?
[02:53] <escott> papna_, then it hasn't been found follow szal's suggestion and check lsusb, cat /proc/partitions, and ls -l /dev/sdb* (or sdc* or sdd)
[02:53] <trackpk> hey guys im new in all this world so how can i add a new server???
[02:54] <papna_> szal: Listed are my mouse and two hubs.
[02:54] <DasEi> papna_: re-plug it, pastebin the output of dmesg | tail
[02:54] <Crash1hd> i noticed that vnc says  Xinerama is present and active and then says Xinerama: sub-screen[0]  1024x768+0+0 Xinerama: sub-screen[1]  1280x1024+1024+0
[02:54] <EGuinn> trackpk: What?
[02:54] <DasEi> !paste | papna_
[02:54] <papna_> EGuinn: Its mostly an ext4 partition.
[02:54] <Crash1hd> how can I set the first sub-screen to be 1280?
[02:54] <EGuinn> papna_: Oh, that won't be a problem then...
[02:54] <cavalier_prime> lolzer mouse over the top bar and your buttons will be there
[02:54] <escott> Crash1hd, nvidia has a utility for screen resolution
[02:55] <Crash1hd> escott, as I was saying i had to disable the nvidia drivers with natty to get any screen
[02:55] <DasEi> Crash1hd: sudo nvidia-settings
 i am in the ubuntu classic .. not in unity
[02:55] <escott> Crash1hd, so you are using nv driver?
[02:56] <papna_> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/607254/
[02:56] <Crash1hd> escott, I am using the nouvoue driver or however you spell it
[02:56] <DasEi> papna_: sudo fdisk -l , devicename ?
[02:56] <Crash1hd> escott, and there is no xorg.conf file to make modifications in
[02:56] <DasEi> -l = lower "L", papna_
[02:56] <Gskellig> I have a question about patches
[02:57] <Gskellig> how do I know if a patch is compatible? and if it is, how do i install it?
[02:57] <Gskellig> kernel patch
[02:58] <papna_> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/607256/
[02:58] <Gskellig> anyone?
[02:58] <kb3gtn> Gskellig: by kernel patch, you talking about source code patches.  look at the code it patches and see what they changed.  Or look at the change log.
[02:58] <DasEi> papna_: is 8 G size of the usb ?
[02:59] <papna_> DasEi: 500 G
[02:59] <Gskellig> i can see it
[02:59] <Gskellig> if its made for a different kernel, its incompatible right?
[02:59] <Gskellig> there isnt anything that *seems* kernel specific in the code though
[02:59] <Gskellig> its pretty short and simple
[02:59] <Gskellig> http://dev.iksaif.net/attachments/111/asus-laptop.patch
[03:00] <kb3gtn> Gskellig: maybe maybe not.. all the different kernels start with the same kernel.. they just add there own patches to it..
[03:00] <hilarie> So... I cut my cord (Axed my vista partition) and I want to upgrade my Bios... its only available as a windows binary... any idea's?
[03:00] <DasEi> papna_: maybe an old raid ? sudo gparted, or is there data expected on the external drive ?
[03:00] <Gskellig> if I apply it can anything bad happen?
[03:01] <papna_> DasEi: It wasn't in a RAID array.
[03:01] <papna_> DasEi: There is data expected.
[03:01] <kb3gtn> Gskellig: patch looks fairly benign to me..
[03:01] <DasEi> hilarie: wrong place here, use a bottable dos-usb and put the binary out, boot from usb, don't forget flash utility
[03:01] <papna_> DasEi: I had it hooked up internally fine.
[03:01] <Gskellig> okay, how DO i go about applying it?
[03:01] <DasEi> papna_: sata.. hmm, jumpers on it ?
[03:01] <kb3gtn> Gskellig: if you asking, you probably don't want to know..
[03:01] <administrator_> ?
[03:01] <Gskellig> =/
[03:02] <hilarie> DasEi It's only available as a .exe
[03:02] <hilarie> Are you saying like a BartPE?
[03:02] <Gskellig> compile my own kernel?
[03:02] <DasEi> hilarie: pm me
[03:02] <kb3gtn> Gskellig: you will need to do some c coding and recompile the kernel sources into a custom kernel to apply it.
[03:02] <Gskellig> sigh
[03:02] <Gskellig> jeez
[03:02] <hilarie> DasEi Could you PM me haven't figured out Xchat yet
[03:02] <InteliWasp> will the server edition work on a laptop ok?
[03:02] <Gskellig> well
[03:02] <Gskellig> no brightness controls for me then =/
[03:02] <papna_> InteliWasp: Sure, but it's not what you want.
[03:03] <papna_> DasEi: Works when hooked up to my laptop, so I doubt that's it. I hesitate to pull it while it's ostensibly spinning.
[03:03] <iceroot> InteliWasp: its the same as the desktop-edition, just with a pae-kernel
[03:03] <kb3gtn> Gskellig: can be done.  Here is a howto for debian.  same procedure would work.. ( intressting learning project)
[03:03] <kb3gtn> http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_kernel_2.6_compile_debian
[03:03] <OY1R> 20m is brilliant tonight !
[03:03] <InteliWasp> papna_: er let me clarafy, i have a old laptop i want to run with some services ie: mumble apache mysql....
[03:03] <iceroot> InteliWasp: and without ubuntu-desktop
[03:03] <OY1R> oh wrong chan.
[03:04] <papna_> InteliWasp: Oh.
[03:04] <papna_> InteliWasp: Yeah sure.
[03:04] <Gskellig> thanks
[03:04] <apoage> hi just need little help building wine from source and configure script says i have missing libjpeg-dev (wont accept 62 dev version so i installed version 8) but when i try again configure it says im missing libtiff-dev witch depends on libjpeg62-dev  have no idea what to do .. is there any way to install both libjpeg-dev versions or somehow install libtiff-dev with libjpeg8-dev?
[03:04] <InteliWasp> but there is no gui at all on it?
[03:04] <papna_> DasEi: Ope, think I found something that suffices.
[03:04] <iceroot> InteliWasp: correct
[03:04] <papna_> DasEi: I had tried two USB ports, both that bounced off the internal hub.
[03:05] <xangua> apoage: or just install wine from repository
[03:05] <papna_> DasEi: Plugging in to the back of the box seems to work.
[03:05] <DasEi> papna_: just to be sure, usb-utils installed ? ah, ic
[03:05] <escott> Crash1hd, nouveau probably supports xrandr
[03:05] <iceroot> InteliWasp: but you can install the gui if you want but its the same as the desktop-version without a gui and with pae-kernel, no other differences
[03:06] <DasEi> papna_: look up your bios, if legacy support is on and all hubs are activated, though dmesg found it
[03:06] <Crash1hd> escott, xrandr I will look into it thanks :)
[03:06] <InteliWasp> well i guess i can do with out a gui... time to dust off the old command book :P
[03:06] <escott> papna_, as long as it isn't listed in mount then it is fine to yank the cord
[03:07] <escott> Crash1hd, gnome-display-properties for the gui
[03:07] <papna_> escott: My hesitation was to pull the drive out of its enclosure while it was spinning.
[03:07] <apoage> Xaevo, well it would be fine i just need version 1.3.20 which is not yet in wine/ubuntu repositories (ppa's)
[03:07] <papna_> escott: Not to pull a USB cord out of the computer.
[03:07] <escott> papna_, oh yes... sorry i thought you meant pull a usb cord
[03:07] <escott> papna_, agreed not a good idea to hot pull a sata connector
[03:12] <DasEi> escott,papna : sataII is hotplugable, even internal, spinning up or in write can cause trouble
[03:14] <Crash1hd> escott, ok it seems that is what I am using
[03:15] <Crash1hd> escott, its only an issue with the resolution when I connect via x11vnc and at that its not everytime
[03:16] <Crash1hd> escott, also if it happens and I run the gnome-display-properties while in vnc it is limited to 1024 but if I close vnc go to the machine and run gnome display properties it goes back to 1280*1024 automatically so its something to do with x11vnc
[03:16] <Crash1hd> and I figure something to do with xinerama
[03:16] <escott> DasEi, in other words if you tell the kernel to power down the device you can remove it
[03:17] <escott> Crash1hd, yeah i don't know anything about vnc
[03:17] <DasEi> escott: I already just plugged it, once there was no sound from reads/writes :-D
[03:17] <Crash1hd> escott, no problem thanks anyhow :)
[03:19] <jon5000> hi.  i have a simple shell script that runs two commands.  each requires sudo.  when i click the launcher to run the script it works fine but i do have to enter my sudo password in a terminal that pops up.  i want to make it so i do not need to enter my password to run this script via launcher.  can anyone help?
[03:20] <escott> jon5000, google for setuid
[03:20] <awhitehatter> jon5000, when do you want to run this?
[03:20] <jon5000> awhitehatter, ideally when i start the computer and/or when i click the launcher
[03:21] <soreau> jon5000: You can run it when you start the computer from /etc/rc.local at least
[03:22] <escott> jon5000, the when you start is easy add it to rc.local, for the when i click you need to chown it to root, and mark it as setuid
[03:22] <greppy> jon5000: man sudoers, you can make specific commands not require passwords.
[03:22] <papna_> DasEi: Thanks.
[03:22] <papna_> et al
[03:22] <jon5000> i looked at sudoers.  way over my head
[03:22] <DasEi> papna_: welcome
[03:23] <jon5000> is setuid easier?
[03:23] <Chubcorp> Hi, I am currently running 10.04 32-bit, I want to start creating Android apps, do I need a 64-bit installation to run the JDK?
[03:24] <escott> jon5000, setuid is easier/potentially less secure depending on exactly what you want to do. be sure to remove write permissions from others if you go setuid, and be careful with any arguments passed to the script
[03:24] <syrinx_> Chubcorp: not that I know of
[03:24] <Gashadokuro> heya.  i have slight problem with unbuntu 10.4.2 if someone can help
[03:24] <syrinx_> !ask
[03:24] <DasEi> jon5000: chown root yourscript.sh &&  chmod 4755 yourscript.sh
[03:24] <awhitehatter> Gashadokuro, what's up?
[03:25] <jon5000> DasEi, thats it?
[03:25] <Gskellig> two kernels show up in grub. I need to remove one. What do i do?
[03:25] <Gskellig> or at least change the default
[03:25] <Gashadokuro> i'm using universal usb installer to get 10.4.2 on my usb but for some reason it won't recognize the iso when i go to choose it
[03:25] <DasEi> jon5000: try it
[03:25] <kb3gtn> I wouldn't touch the old ones.
[03:25] <kb3gtn> hold shift when you boot
[03:25] <xangua> !info startupmanager | Gskellig
[03:25] <Chubcorp> syrinx, Ok thanks
[03:25] <kb3gtn> (left shift)
[03:25] <Gskellig> its because I tried installing mainline kernels to improve my battery life
[03:25] <Gskellig> worked on wubi =/ but not on real ubuntu
[03:26] <DasEi> jon5000: but mind the security flaw if it takes user interaction
[03:26] <awhitehatter> Gashadokuro, possible could have gotten corrupted in the download? Did you try to download a new instance?
[03:26] <Gashadokuro> also i tried the newest one, but when i tried booting it gave me  "Could not find kernelt img: vesamenu.c32"
[03:26] <Gashadokuro> possibly.  i used the torrent on the site to get it
[03:26] <syrinx_> Gashadokuro: universal is pretty crappy, use unetbootin
[03:26] <DasEi> jon5000: another way is a single group just for that script, then allow root on it
[03:26] <kjxl9> hey guys, i watch alot of internet radio with video, what program would you guys recomend me using?
[03:26] <Gashadokuro> hmm ok i'll give that a try right now, thanks syrinx
[03:26] <syrinx_> Gashadokuro: and check the md5 on the iso
[03:27] <DasEi> kjxl9: zattoo
[03:27] <syrinx_> make sure it downloaded right :D
[03:27] <awhitehatter> Gashadokuro, I second what syrinx_ said, Unetbootin way better.
[03:27] <DasEi> kjxl9: also there is miro, and others oc
[03:28] <jon5000> DasEi, didnt allow me to change permissions
[03:28] <DasEi> jon5000: erm, prefix with sudo
[03:28] <DasEi> both cmd's
[03:28] <ubuntuguysssss> Why does unity dash take so long to open? It used to open fast when I did a fresh install
[03:29] <kjxl9> sudo apt-get install zattoo didnt work
[03:29] <escott> Gskellig, its best not to remove a kernel until you are 100% confident the new one works, but dpkg -l *linux* and then dpkg -r specific-version-you-want-to-remove
[03:29] <jon5000> DasEi, ah.  got it
[03:29] <Gashadokuro> ok whitehatter i'll give it a try.  thanks guys
[03:29] <Gskellig> escott, i installed a new one and thats the broken one =/
[03:29] <Gskellig> thanks
[03:29] <syrinx_> !zattoo
[03:29] <DasEi> kjxl9: third party, goto go to their HP, register via email (no charge) and installl the deb
[03:29] <melfy> So I'm using php5 with php5-cgi front with nginx and tried installing php5-gd after and it didn't add the gd lib to php5-cgi or php5-cli any ideas?
[03:29] <purvis> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my tower and I got a kernel panic during a sudo apt-get upgrade and also during a sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer. Anyone have any idea what's causing the kernel panics?
[03:29] <jon5000> DasEi, that took.  but when i launch it still asks for sudo paswd
[03:30] <escott> Gskellig, it may complain about matching headers and modules, just remove everything with matching versions
[03:30] <Gskellig> got it
[03:30] <Gskellig> is there a way to check the exact name of kernels i have installed
[03:30] <melfy> asked in #php not sure if it's an ubuntu package bug or php hopefully someone in either has went through it :/
[03:30] <Gskellig> other than looking at it in grub
[03:30] <kjxl9> i don't feel like registering to anything atm, what programs are available from synaptic?
[03:30] <escott> Gskellig, the dpkg -l will list all installed packages with "ii" in front of them, down to exact versions
[03:30] <ubuntuguysssss> Why does my unity dash take so long to open?
[03:31] <Gskellig> of course =P
[03:31] <Gskellig> thanks
[03:31] <xangua> Gskellig: synapcit, startupmanager
[03:31] <xangua> synaptic*
[03:31] <DasEi> jon5000: ok, then re-own script and use visudo for that that script
[03:31] <DasEi> jon5000: sudo chown $USER yourscript.sh
[03:32] <escott> jon5000, if it is setuid then sudo is not needed because the entire script runs as root
[03:32] <Gskellig> while installing startupmanager: Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:32] <Gskellig>  linux-image-2.6.39-020639rc4-generic
[03:32] <DasEi> jon5000: sudo visudo
[03:32] <escott> jon5000, you could also gksudo gedit yourscript.sh
[03:32] <DasEi> jon5000: add a line :
[03:33] <escott> Gskellig, you may need to remove anything that matches that version so dpkg -l *2.6.39*
[03:33] <Gskellig> yeah
[03:33] <Gskellig> thats what i thought
[03:34] <Gskellig> using dpkg to uninstall anything 2.6.39 related now
[03:34] <DasEi> jon5000: UserNameHere  ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD /path/to/yourscript.sh
[03:35] <kyo> Good afternoon. Ubuntu 11.04 when I am watching a video with totem, and change the tab to another task... I can still looking the video.
[03:35] <DasEi> set username and pathñame to correct values ^
[03:35] <syrinx_> thats alot of work to get a script to run :/
[03:35] <Gskellig> yay
[03:35] <Gskellig> update-grub only shows the .38's
[03:35] <Gskellig> thanks
[03:35] <jon5000> DasEi, how do i re-own the script?
[03:35] <Gskellig> startupmanager works now too
[03:36] <jon5000> DasEi, chown what...
[03:36] <DasEi> jon5000: sudo chown $USER yourscript.sh
[03:36] <jon5000> DasEi, $user as is or do i need to change that to something?
[03:36] <DasEi> jon5000: also: it is marked as executable, nor ?
[03:37] <DasEi> $USER not $user, jon5000
[03:37] <jon5000> DasEi, yes it is executable.  it works just asks for paswd
[03:37] <DasEi> ah, sure
[03:37] <Gskellig> now that i know hwo to fix that
[03:38] <Gskellig> going to try the 2.6.38 mainline kernels now
[03:38] <Gskellig> when this worked on wubi my power consumption dropped like a watt
[03:38] <Gskellig> oh yeah one more thing, how do i automatically run commands on boot?
[03:38] <escott> Gskellig, rc.local
[03:40] <tophu> Gskellig: hit your windows key and type 'startup' without the quotes and then click on the "Startup Applications" and from there it's very easy.
[03:40] <tophu> fell free to whisper me if you you need any help using the startup wizard
[03:41] <Gskellig> thankyou
[03:41] <Gskellig> seems pretty straight forward =/
[03:42] <tophu> ^_^
[03:42] <cordoval> when I do git commit -a and it calls pico or nano automatically it tells me Error reading /home/cordoval/.nano_history: Permission denied, but this does not happen in a regular setup, what am I doing wrong?
[03:42] <tophu> anyone know why slim login screen isn't working in 11.04
[03:42] <jon5000> DasEi, visudo is telling me there is syntax error.   this is the line i added: jon  ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD /home/jon/bin/connect.sh
[03:42] <TurkuSama> Gimp is too complicated, is there anything else...like mspaint?
[03:43] <escott> cordoval, check the permissions of .nano_history, maybe you did a sudo nano at one point and chown'ed th history file
[03:43] <cordoval> escott: hi I remember you will do that now
[03:43] <cordoval> escott: it says it is owned by root
[03:44] <escott> TurkuSama, kpaint, libre-office draw, assorted photo editors, assorted vector editors as well, see what is in synaptic
[03:44] <ubuntuguysssss> Why does unity dash take so long to open?
[03:44] <syrinx_> ubuntuguysssss: because it's bloated
[03:44] <TurkuSama> thanks escott
[03:44] <ubuntuguysssss> Explain?
[03:44] <escott> cordoval, sudo chown $USER:$USER .nano_history
[03:44] <cordoval> escoot: .pearrc is also owned by root
[03:44] <Gskellig> from what i've been gathering the general consensus is everybody hates unity
[03:44] <DasEi> jon5000: jon  ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD : /home/jon/bin/connect.sh , and consider a folder under your home, or that get's next issue
[03:44] <Gskellig> and cant wait for the new gnome
[03:44] <tophu> so chown is like cacls?
[03:44] <syrinx_> not much to explain, it's more taxing on the system than gnome2 is
[03:44] <escott> Gskellig, it grows on you but there is also !classic
[03:45] <Gskellig> !classic
[03:45] <Gskellig> =(
[03:45] <Gskellig> 10.10 UNR on my EEEPC 1000HE was not even usable
[03:45] <Gskellig> because of unity
[03:45] <tophu> !Unity
[03:45] <escott> cordoval, yeah be careful with the sudo-ing not all apps verify that $HOME is /root/ before creating files
[03:46] <Flynn> Hello.  I'm trying to share my Internet  connection that my XP desktop has with my Net-book running Ubuntu 10.10 desktop.  I think I have everything right on the XP  end right, but I don't know where to start in Ubuntu.
[03:46] <DasEi> Gskellig: least now we no the factoid, only defaulting to classic still missing ;)
[03:46] <DasEi> know*
[03:46] <cordoval> escott: I did a lot of things
[03:46] <jon5000> DasEi, what do you mean by 'and consider......'?
[03:46] <Gskellig> =/
[03:46] <Gskellig> should be an option on install
[03:46] <Gskellig> in my opinion
[03:46] <paul___> how can I pair my bluetooth mouse and keyboard to my macbook pro running 11.04?
[03:46] <purvis> Is the Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 version unstable?
[03:46] <DasEi> Gskellig: switching back is easy enough
[03:46] <joshmc> is there a keyboard combo for hibernating in gnome? I just had a freak hibernate
[03:46] <Gskellig> purvis: seems pretty stable for  me
[03:46] <paul___> the applet doesn't have anything for pairing
[03:46] <jon5000> DasEi, that command syntax worked and it saved i think.  but when i run, it still asks for paswd
[03:47] <Gskellig> think i'd get better battery life by switching back to gnome?
[03:47] <DasEi> jon5000: mkdir ~/scripts
[03:47] <escott> jon5000, im puzzled as to why setuid wasn't working for you
[03:47] <Semitones> Hey folks -- is there a way in synaptic to see what programs I've personally marked for installation? I wanna check for things I haven't used in a while
[03:47] <DasEi> jon5000: move script there
[03:47] <escott> DasEi, he has it in $HOME/bin
[03:48] <braiam> unity question: i activate windows previews, but now i want deactivate the text popup, how i do that?
[03:48] <tophu> I love unity
[03:48] <shcherbak> !resetpanel
[03:48] <purvis> well everytime I try to install something through apt-get i get a kernel panic or the entire system freezes during the operation
[03:48] <tophu> I just wish it was more customizable
[03:48] <DasEi> escott: righty
[03:48] <escott> Gskellig, if you drop to unity-2d or metacity maybe
[03:48] <DasEi> jon5000: you set a personal dir bin under home ? fine then
[03:48] <Gskellig> us unity 3d?
[03:49] <Flynn> I'm trying to share my Internet  connection that my XP desktop has with my Net-book running Ubuntu 10.10 desktop.  I think I have everything right on the XP  end right, but I don't know where to start in Ubuntu.
[03:49] <Overlord-sirus> Good news!  I have the transnote working! And only after three hours! :D  Now, what ubuntu type should I put in it?  It has a 600 MHz processor, a pentium IIIm I believe.  10 gig HDD.  191Mib ram.  any suggestions?
[03:49] <jon5000> DasEi, that is what i did.  so i will leave it alone.  but its still not working for me
[03:49] <DasEi> Overlord-sirus: lubuntu or minimal with icewm
[03:49] <Gskellig> xubuntu Overlord-sirus
[03:49] <joshmc> is there a keyboard combo for hibernation in gnome? I just had a freak hibernate (and my first thought was to ask IRC, so sorry if a google search yields a quick answer)
[03:49] <jon5000> escott, setuid made my tiny brain hurt
[03:49] <Gskellig> ignore what i said
[03:49] <Gskellig> thats even better
[03:50] <syrinx_> lol
[03:50] <Overlord-sirus> It seems to be ok with running YLMF OS
[03:50] <escott> jon5000, if you script looks like "#!/bin/bash\ncommand args" then sudo chown root:root script.sh; sudo chmod 755 script.sh; sudo chown u+s script.sh should work. you just need to remove the "sudo" from your script
[03:50] <tophu> I don't know I'm running on an Acer Aspire 3820T-5246 and it's running great
[03:50] <Gskellig> hey i think thats my PC
[03:50] <Overlord-sirus> been thinking about lubuntu or puppy linux
[03:50] <Gskellig> nvm
[03:50] <Gskellig> E380
[03:50] <Semitones> both are great distros
[03:50] <Gskellig> what ever happened to xubuntu
[03:51] <Overlord-sirus> I want my load of nubuntu on it but I let someone borrow it D:
[03:51] <Overlord-sirus> now I forget, Lubuntu runs off of RM like PUPPY right?
[03:51] <escott> jon5000, setuid is conceptually simple it runs the script as the owner, no matter who that is. you want to run it as joe, then chown it to joe, and setuid. when it is run it is joe. if for root then you won't need to sudo because it runs as root
[03:51] <Overlord-sirus> RAM*
[03:51] <julian_c> Xubuntu is live and well... especially on my machine.
[03:52] <DasEi> Overlord-sirus: ram is quite low, though xubuntu via alternate installer will do, too, but heavier than icewm
[03:52] <ftm_common> anyone have any idea why su doesn't work in terminal I am running ubuntu studio 11.04
[03:52] <julian_c> !xubuntu
[03:52] <escott> ftm_common, root has no password in ubuntu
[03:52] <ftm_common> ok
[03:52] <jon5000> escott, sudo chown u+s gaveme an invalid user.  what am i supposed to put there?
[03:52] <DasEi> Overlord-sirus: no, lubuntu is a derivate for low ressources, ubuntu-core
[03:52] <ftm_common> duh
[03:52] <ftm_common> ty
[03:52] <Flynn> I'm trying to share my Internet  connection that my XP desktop has with my Net-book running Ubuntu 10.10 desktop.  I think I have everything right on the XP  end right, but I don't know where to start in Ubuntu.
[03:53] <escott> jon5000, sorry chmod u+s
[03:53] <Overlord-sirus> -_-
[03:53] <pksadiq> ftm_common: try sudo -i         to root
[03:53] <syrinx_> Flynn: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:53] <ftm_common> it still said authentication error
[03:53] <Flynn> connect my net-book to the internet through my desktop
[03:54] <syrinx_> how do you plan to do that?
[03:54] <escott> ftm_common, you are putting in YOUR password right, not what you think might be roots password
[03:54] <ftm_common> yes
[03:55] <Flynn> syrinx, shared internet connection, I guess.
[03:55] <bazhang> !ics > Flynn
[03:55] <lolzer> hi my minimise and close has disappeared ... the whole title bar is missing
[03:55] <jon5000> escott, i will be right back.  i think that may have worked tho.
[03:55] <braiam> i want to deactivate the text popup on the unity panel, how i do that?
[03:55] <Crash1hd> hmm this is odd I can ping 192.168.2.100 but I cant ping the dns name version of the same
[03:55] <pksadiq> ftm_common: if it says that you are not in sudoers file, it means that your account don't have admin privillages, try a different account
[03:55] <lolzer> i did something in compiz ..
[03:56] <Flynn> !ics?
[03:56] <ftm_common> this is the only account i just reinstalled linux
[03:56] <escott> ftm_common, does sudo whoami not work for you
[03:57] <escott> Crash1hd, are you configured to have 192.168.1.1 (as your dns -- assuming that is where you dns server is)
[03:57] <ftm_common> it said root
[03:58] <pksadiq> ftm_common: :)
[03:58] <escott> ftm_common, ok so "sudo -i" should get you a bash shell with root privileges
[03:58] <Crash1hd> escott, yes mine is 192.168.2.1 but yes
[03:59] <ftm_common> thank you very much
[03:59] <escott> Crash1hd, can you double check by catting /etc/resolve.conf
[03:59] <escott> cat-ing
[03:59] <Gskellig> so. is there any way I can run a command automatically on startup AS ROOT?
[03:59] <escott> Gskellig, /etc/rc.local
[03:59] <Crash1hd> escott, hmm getting no such file or directory
[03:59] <Gskellig> alright
[04:00] <Some_Person> What's a good VNC viewer that can easily go into fullscreen?
[04:00] <escott> !vnc | Some_Person
[04:00] <escott> Some_Person, sorry thought that would give suggestions, apparently it doesnt
[04:00] <Some_Person> I just want a quick name
[04:00] <Gskellig> Some_Person, try ubuntuguide.org they have some good suggestions
[04:01] <Crash1hd> Some_Person, try using x11vnc seems to work well
[04:01] <Flynn> Ok, so you cannot connect ubuntu wirelessly to another computer and share its connection?
[04:01] <syrinx_> !ics
[04:01] <escott> Flynn, sure you can, what direction are you trying to share, the ubuntu end or the other end
[04:02] <Starminn> My icons suddenly changed, then half-way changed back. The things that are still different are my desktop icons and nautilus. How can I restore these to how I had them? (I know log off/log on would work, but I'm curious as to how I could avoid that)
[04:02] <Flynn> escott, Um...  The other computer has the connection to the internet.
[04:02] <Crash1hd> escott, hmm I just realized I had to machines with the same dns name (wondering if that has something to do with it) changed one waiting to see what happens
[04:02] <adubz> in 11.04 my drives i have to right click mount then authenticate in order to mount my other hard drives
[04:03] <Some_Person> x11vnc is a server. I need a clinet
[04:03] <Some_Person> *client
[04:03] <adubz> can i still mount in fstab and the drives appear on my desktop
[04:03] <adubz> as they are now
[04:03] <trism> Some_Person: I like xvnc4viewer
[04:03] <escott> Flynn, ok so put the other machines wireless into managed or ad-hoc mode, and put the ubuntu end on the same essid, then set the ubuntu gateway to the other machines ip
[04:03] <papaya> gcc-4.6.0/gcc/gengtype-parse.c:987: undefined reference to `yyend'
[04:03] <julian_c> Some_Person: Remmina Remote Desktop Client does fullscreen well. I prefer it over Terminal Server Client.
[04:03] <papaya> gcc-4.6.0/gcc/gengtype-parse.c:947: undefined reference to `yybegin
[04:04] <papaya> anybody knows what is going on
[04:04] <escott> Flynn, you may have to fiddle a bit with things like dns servers/you may want to put a dhcp server on the other machine, but thats really it
[04:04] <Gskellig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto is that current? because /etc/rc.local exists
[04:04] <papaya> gcc-4.6.0/gcc/gengtype-parse.c:947: undefined reference to `yybegin
[04:04] <papaya> gcc-4.6.0/gcc/gengtype-parse.c:947: undefined reference to `yybegin
[04:04] <papaya> gcc-4.6.0/gcc/gengtype-parse.c:947: undefined reference to `yybegin
[04:04] <FloodBot1> papaya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <bazhang> !repeat | papaya
[04:04] <pksadiq> bazhang: he is flooding
[04:05] <Flynn> escott, the other machine is XP not Ubuntu
[04:05] <bazhang> papaya, every 15-20 minutes
[04:05] <papaya> ok
[04:06] <escott> Flynn, then you have to "enable internet sharing" or whatever windows calls it. if windows refuses to put its wireless in ad-hoc or managed mode that would be challenging
  do you have any idea on the missing close , and minimise ,, even the whole title bar is missing
[04:06] <zc00gii> zc00gii@eee:~$ sudo mkfs.msdos /dev/sdb
[04:06] <zc00gii> mkfs.msdos 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010)
[04:06] <zc00gii> mkfs.msdos: unable to open /dev/sdb
[04:06] <zc00gii> -_-
[04:06] <txh> Hi, I have recently installed ubuntu on a large partition ubuntu and everything is using less than a tenth of the partition, Can I resize it at the end using Gparted to Increase the swap partition 'which is now only 4Gb or less/ without data loss or other issues??
[04:06] <FloodBot1> zc00gii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <escott> lolzer, unity or classic?
[04:06] <Mjolnir> sorry abot that im back, if anyone answered please resend
[04:07] <Flynn> escott, internet sharing is enabled
[04:07] <escott> zc00gii, you mkfs on a partition not the entire drive
  im on classic
[04:07] <zc00gii> escott, ah, I've been using linux for like 6 years, but had no computer for like, 6 months
[04:08] <escott> Flynn, and can you associate to the windows machines network... note that sharing a connection is different from managing a wireless network, not sure if windows is smart enough to put the wifi into managed mode
 i installed compiz .. that is where thing looked so wrong
[04:08] <DasEi> Mjolnir: what was your question ?
[04:09] <escott> lolzer, likely compiz is failing in some way and not able to draw the window borders. kill it and go back to metacity
[04:09] <Flynn> escott, what do you mean "associate?"
[04:09] <zc00gii> escott, how can I clear the drive and fix it?
[04:09] <Mjolnir> dasei hey guys need your help: im trying super hard to install ubuntu but no luck... i md5sumed it and it checks out OK... my bios are set properly and i can see it with my hardrives...
[04:09] <zc00gii> cfdisk doesn't want to work on it
[04:09] <escott> zc00gii, the gui is easiest, sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:09] <gsp2009> hello folks. Can someone help me understand a vino-server problem that I am having. Since upgrading to natty, VNC is only available on localhost. I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748482 and when I start vino-server with --sm-disable it works fine. Why does it now work when I lauch it from System-Prefs-Remote destop?
[04:09] <zc00gii> I despise gparted
[04:10] <escott> zc00gii, then sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[04:10] <zc00gii> except when resizing partitions,, then it's a godsend
[04:10] <DasEi> Mjolnir: your hardrive(s) are not found though bios finds it ?
[04:10] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: so...what happened?
[04:10] <zc00gii> escott, been forever since I've had to alter  a filesystem
[04:10] <zc00gii> years
[04:10] <zc00gii> what do I do from there?
[04:10] <escott> zc00gii, then mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[04:11] <pksadiq> zc00gii: first try    ls /dev/sd*     and see whether sdb is listed there or not
[04:11] <escott> zc00gii, i use the gui so I don't know all the key commands, i think h for help (maybe ?) p for print the current table, w to write the table
  thanks!!  do you know how to make thins permanent ...
[04:11] <Mjolnir> dasei, backwards, im guessing my bios cant find it idk i can see it in dolphin... but when i reboot nothing happens... and the CD's in there. also happening with my backtrack cd
[04:11] <escott> lolzer, disable your desktop effects
[04:12] <zc00gii> escott, no no,  I mean uh
[04:12] <zc00gii> in fdisk
[04:12] <DasEi> Mjolnir: if your bios sees it can check in there, and also you have to set it to boot from cd
[04:12] <escott> Flynn, does the ubuntu wireless show the network that the windows machine is
[04:12] <zc00gii> whhat do I do?
  where can i find desktop effects?? in compiz??
[04:12] <braiam> i want to deactivate the text popup on the unity panel, in maverick i found the option, now i can't
[04:12] <escott> lolzer, no the desktop effects in preferences, change to none
[04:12] <IceWewe> how do you limit dom0 memory with grub2?
[04:12] <IceWewe> I can't find any docs on it.
[04:13] <calwig> hi all
[04:13] <escott> lolzer, changing it to anything not-none was what brought compiz in
[04:13] <txh> Does Ubuntu put any data in the end of its working ext filesystem?
[04:13] <DasEi> Mjolnir: can you boot live-cd or not ?
[04:13] <escott> Flynn, when you shared the connection in windows did it ask you for a name under which to share the connection
[04:13] <Mjolnir> dasei yup i have it set that way, for some reason its not reading it. i burned the live cd and popped it in, but doesnt do anything
[04:14] <Flynn> escott, don't remember, h/o
[04:14] <DasEi> txh: you mean in view of resizing ? no, but uuid changes then
 k thanks again ... have a great day!!
[04:15] <DasEi> Mjolnir: have you set bios to boot from cd ? do you have an usb , least 1 gb , handy ?
[04:16] <escott> Flynn, if windows didn't ask you to establish a name then thats windows fault... and im not sure what you can do. you could try to put ubuntu into managed mode (so ubuntu is managing the network) and associate windows to it, and then set the gateway to the ip you give the windows machine -- but thats oddly backwards because windows should manage the wifi network, and serve out ips and set gateway and dns addresses through a dhcp serve
[04:16] <escott> r running on windows
[04:16] <txh> DasEi: what is uuid is that a problem?
[04:16] <Flynn> escott I dont think so, I know my workgroup and computer names
[04:16] <Mjolnir> dasei nope no usb on me and yup bios are set to CD first
[04:16] <DasEi> txh: uuid is an unique identifier for partitons, used by grub and fstab to locate them
[04:17] <DasEi> !blkid
[04:17] <escott> zc00gii, i don't remember all the fdisk commands, you may not even need to run fdisk if the drive has the partition setup you want. cat /proc/partitions to see how sdb is configured, you could just mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[04:17] <DasEi> Mjolnir: your current system ?
[04:18] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: could be a bad burn
[04:18] <Mjolnir> dasei Dual XP/OpenSUSE - i want to put ubuntu and backtrack in the place of suse
[04:18] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ i md5sum'd it tho, it checks out
[04:18] <Crash1hd> escott, did you mean resolve.conf or resolv.conf?
[04:19] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: you md5'd the iso, not the disc...
[04:19] <escott> Crash1hd, resolv.conf silly "abbreviate a filename by one letter)
[04:19] <DasEi> Mjolnir: hmm, could try to install grub2, then resize, mount an iso in grub2, and install to the free.. hassle
[04:20] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ whats the difference? the only thing on the disk is the iso
[04:20] <DasEi> Mjolnir: try a different burning application on slow speed ?
[04:20] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: burn errors
[04:20] <Crash1hd> escott, very silly lol :) but I have it open now :) what should I be looking for? my domain is set to my shaw connection domain cg.shawcable.net
[04:20] <Crash1hd> same as search
[04:20] <Crash1hd> and there are 3 nameserver all shaw ones
[04:20] <escott> Crash1hd, just to confirm your dns is what you think it should be
[04:20] <Flynn> escott, will ubuntu understand a windows "network setup disk?"
[04:21] <mattypants`> hi
[04:21] <Crash1hd> escott, right checking the other machine
[04:21] <Crash1hd> now
[04:21] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ dasei i would say that too except the issue is with 1 ubuntu disk and 2 backtrack cd's too... confusing...
[04:21] <escott> Flynn, no idea what a windows "network setup disk" is... but probably not
[04:21] <Flynn> damn
[04:21] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ dasei did i burnem all wrong?
[04:21] <syrinx_> it's possible...
[04:21] <Crash1hd> escott, they are both right :)
[04:21] <tucemiux> I installed 11.04 from an ISO -- my wireless doesnt work out of the box on 11.04!!!  Anyone knows a good link to install and configure wireless drivers ????
[04:21] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: none of them work?
[04:22] <pksadiq> Mjolnir: did you actually checked the boot order in BIOS? try to disable boot from HDD once and ON the option boot from other devices
[04:22] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ nope
[04:22] <DasEi> Mjolnir: can't see it in my crystal ball, but had such issue few times
[04:22] <escott> Crash1hd, so 192.168.2.1 was set as the first dns in the resolv.conf?
[04:22] <Gskellig> tucemiux, do you now what card?
[04:22] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: yea, id say burn errors, try burning one again at 8x
[04:22] <tucemiux> Gskellig, it's an intel wireless card
[04:22] <Flynn> I guess I need a xp/ubuntu chat
[04:22] <Crash1hd> escott, no its not in there
[04:22] <escott> Mjolnir, and no jumping jacks while it is burning
[04:23] <Gskellig> youve checked additional drivers right?
[04:23] <Crash1hd> escott, you mean like this nameserver 192.168.2.1
[04:23] <syrinx_> Flynn: did you check the link I sent you?
[04:23] <KM0201> Flynn: what problem are you having (sorry, not really been paying attention)
[04:23] <multipass> how do i install kubuntu in ubuntu?
[04:23] <tucemiux> Gskellig, Intel Pro 2200 wireless (802.11 b/g)
[04:23] <escott> Crash1hd, well then it wont ask your dns, it will ask coxes who will happily say "I don't know anything about localdomain"
[04:23] <Mjolnir> f**** i have to download again... and then burn... again... okay then
[04:23] <syrinx_> multipass: apt-get install kubuntu
[04:24] <Flynn> syrinx what was it?
[04:24] <syrinx_> !ics | Flynn
[04:24] <pksadiq> Mjolnir: if MD5 matches, don't
[04:24] <DasEi> multipass: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <syrinx_> multipass: yea, what DasEi said
[04:24] <Crash1hd> escott, hmm ok odd cause my other machine sees them all just fine
[04:24] <multipass> o hmm crap, i was on a server without it, resetting to ubuntu US main servers then upating
[04:24] <multipass> thanks lol
[04:24] <Mjolnir> pksadiq okay, then we'll do your way. except i didnt quiet get it
[04:25] <Flynn> KM0201 sharing internet connection with xp
[04:25] <escott> syrinx_, from what I gather Flynn problem is actually a windows problem. he needs win XP to manage (or make ad-hoc) its wifi card
[04:25] <Gskellig> wow
[04:25] <Gskellig> tucemiux, to my knowledge ipw2200 chipset is widely supported
[04:25] <DasEi> multipass: afterwards switch default to kubuntu
[04:25] <Crash1hd> escott, ok so the line should be nameserver 192.168.2.1 <-- the gateway
[04:25] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: yea, no reason to download again if the md5 checks out, just burn it again at a slow speed
[04:25] <KM0201> hmm.. why not just get a router?.. they're like cheap nowdays
[04:25] <escott> Crash1hd, yes but you should set that in network manager
[04:25] <syrinx_> escott: oh...wrong place then lol
[04:25] <Flynn> syrinx, yeah it seems to be about a wired connection between the two computers
[04:25] <Mjolnir> oh well coincidently i lost the file lol
[04:26] <tucemiux> Gskellig, iwconfig: no wireless connections -- this only happened with 11.04 install, all other previous installs I've done with ISO installed the wireless drivers, looks like my wireless drivers were phased out of box, I have to manually install now
[04:27] <Gskellig> thats VERY odd
[04:27] <Crash1hd> escott, where is the network manager in system?
[04:27] <Gskellig> well
[04:27] <Gskellig> http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net
[04:27] <tucemiux> Gskellig, not odd at all, ive seen this happen with other hardware, like my printer
[04:27] <escott> Flynn, your first difficulty is getting the wifi network established. it can be ad-hoc meaning it is unmanaged computers just sent traffic to everyone on a particular essid, or it can be hub-spoke topology managed. the natural configuration for you is to have win xp as the hub and linux as the spoke, and run a dhcp server on windows
[04:27] <Gskellig> its a pretty common wifi chipset though
[04:27] <syrinx_> tucemiux: happened to me in 10.10 with my wifi card in my netbook
[04:27] <Flynn> Windows doesn't play nice with Mac, Linux, or other versions of Windows.
[04:27] <wonginator1221> Hey guys, is there a "start" menu in unity (not just a search menu)?
[04:28] <escott> Crash1hd, in the gui it is your network icon in the top left, just edit connections. there is also a command line client
[04:28] <DasEi> wonginator1221: prefrences, startupapplications ? or install
[04:28] <DasEi> !bum
[04:28] <LF-LSD> IF anyone lives in SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA. And would be willing to sell me some Psychedelics. I will be your best friend forever.
[04:29] <syrinx_> LF-LSD: no
[04:29] <LF-LSD> Tripple Sad Face
[04:29] <tucemiux> syrinx_, yup yup this is the first time I will have to deal with it, I only installed from ISO because I ran out of space on root, I'll be upgrading from now on though
[04:29] <rww> !ot | LF-LSD
[04:29] <Flynn> escott, I've had a network established for a while, but never shared a connection from one computer to the next.  Just through the router.
[04:29] <LF-LSD> Don't go all blue test on me
[04:29] <escott> Flynn, if you can't get winxp to manage the network you could have ubuntu manage the network, and try to reverse everything up where the gateway is a client of the managed network, and the dns server would have to be hard-coded to something like 8.8.8.8
[04:29] <LF-LSD> I know what I am doing.
[04:29] <Huji> Could someone please help me setup my private key on this new Ubuntu machine so I can ssh into a remote server?  I converted the key from PuTTy format to OpenSSH format and pasted it in ~/.ssh/id_rsa but it still refuses to log in
[04:29] <DasEi> LF-LSD: stop that here
[04:29] <Crash1hd> escott, hmm I see Computer and Home Folder on desktop (in gui)
[04:30] <escott> Crash1hd, top right next to the volume icon
[04:30] <wonginator1221> DasEi: Is there a way i can navigate to start a program similar to gnome?
[04:30] <escott> Huji, needs to be in .ssh/auth_keys or something like that
[04:30] <wonginator1221> DasEi: As opposed to searching than starting it.
[04:30] <Crash1hd> escott, ahh up there :)
[04:30] <syrinx_> wonginator1221: switch to gnome classic
[04:31] <escott> Huji, nevermind. read that wrong
[04:31] <DasEi> wonginator1221: you look for a particular prog ? look in /usr/bin
[04:31] <Huji> escott: I think you're right. I'm trying to figure out the format of that file tho
[04:31] <Flynn> escott, that's too technical for me to understand.  I know I'm using a name of a fictitious computer guru but, I'm far far from that!
[04:31] <Gskellig> I love powertop: Power usage (ACPI estimate): 5.8W (10.0 hours)
[04:32] <escott> Huji, no im wrong the auth_key is for the server (you add your public key to the list of auth keys on the machine you try to login to)
[04:32] <Crash1hd> escott, in IPv4 I have it set to Method Automatic (DHCP)
[04:32] <Huji> escott: Oh, right
[04:32] <Huji> So I just add my key in the id_rsa file?
[04:32] <DasEi> wonginator1221: gnome-session-properties in terminal
[04:32] <wonginator1221> syrinx_: I know i could do that, but I enjoy using unity.  I just never realized that I there was no "applications" menu
[04:32] <escott> Crash1hd, so you need to change it to addresses only, and then hardcode the dns, with 192.168.2.1 first, use google 8.8.8.8 second
[04:32] <syrinx_> :/
[04:32] <Gskellig> notice how when you bring windows into this channel the problems never get solved
[04:32] <Gskellig> =/
[04:33] <syrinx_> mhmm
[04:33] <wonginator1221> DasEi: I'm not looking for start up applications
[04:33] <wonginator1221> DasEi: But thanks for the help anyways
[04:33] <DasEi> wonginator1221: apps are mainly in /usr/bin
[04:33] <escott> Flynn, sorry its just hard to explain all this. you have the network layer which is the wifi connection with essids and the like. usually a computer manages that and says "you are allowed to transmit traffic on this network, you are not", but in ad-hoc anyone can transmit with essid="My Network"
[04:33] <pksadiq> Gskellig: windows won't exists without (back)doors, for crackers ;)
[04:34] <KuTi_> moin
[04:34] <KuTi_> is jemand wach der mir bei nem firefox-problem helfen kann?
[04:34] <escott> Flynn, then you have the ip addresses and gateways, what the phone numbers of the computers on the network are, and who to call for long-distance (the internet)
[04:34] <syrinx_> !de | KuTi_
[04:34] <KuTi_> ok
[04:34] <escott> Flynn, finally you have the dns (domain name service) which is who to call for directory assistance
[04:35] <syrinx_> wonginator1221: I *think* you can search for an app, right click it, and there should be an option to add it to the launcher
[04:35] <syrinx_> other than that, I have no idea
[04:36] <escott> Flynn, in your config windows is failing you in the first step. it needs to establish the network and manage it. if it refuses to do so, then linux can set that up, but everything is backwards... the phone company wants you to call jacks house for long distance, and has no idea how to get directory assistance
[04:36] <DasEi> wonginator1221: no, that's gnome, in unity got to hangle through the wobbly menu
[04:37] <escott> Huji, did you convert the public or private key?
[04:37] <Huji> I converted the private key from PuTTy format (which I used on windows) to openSSH format
[04:37] <wonginator1221> DasEi: Interesting design choice.
[04:37] <Flynn> escott, I know I can share files with these computers, so they can detect each other.  How do I know
[04:38] <Flynn> ...
[04:38] <DasEi> wonginator1221: you can easily switch default to gnome
[04:38] <escott> Flynn, first can you ping the windows machine from ubuntu?
[04:38] <wonginator1221> syrinx_: the program needs to be started first (which puts it in the launch bar) then you can right click and add it.
[04:38] <Flynn> (specifically) how do I do that?
[04:38] <escott> Flynn, and you may need to be sharing the ethernet connection on windows.... im not really sure what windows means when it says sharing
[04:38] <syrinx_> wonginator1221: ah, I see
[04:38] <Huji> escott: Then I saved it on ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[04:39] <Huji> escott: and now when I do ssh -l USER blah.domain.com        it asks for a password, and doesn't get logged in
[04:39] <wonginator1221> DasEi: I actually do not mind this issue at all.  I was just curious if there was a way to add this option without reverting back to gnome
[04:39] <Flynn> escott. that may be a problem, the computer only has on ethernet port.
[04:39] <escott> Huji, can you confirm that ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa doesn't work
[04:40] <Flynn> escott, so how do i ping it?
[04:40] <Omega> !ssh | Huji
[04:40] <escott> Flynn, because you have to transmit traffic through both and run dns-masq (NAT) on the windows machine
[04:40] <lorenz> greetings, I am trying to get wifi on my laptop working. Can wifi work with ubuntu?
[04:40] <DasEi> wonginator1221: I'm no unity-guru, but from what I now can't have the gnome-panel there as it doesn't use common x nomore, so I "think" that won't mix
[04:41] <escott> Flynn, i know how to do all this if the situation is reverse, not a clue how to do it on windows
[04:41] <DasEi> know*
[04:41] <Huji> escott: You mean ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa SOME.SERVER.COM right? It doesn't work
[04:41] <KM0201> lorenz: no, nobody uses wifi w/ ubuntu... come on now.
[04:41] <Huji> Omega: Didn't help :(
[04:41] <escott> Huji, and it doesn't warn you at all
[04:41] <lorenz> okay, sorry
[04:41] <KM0201> lorenz: whats your wifi device?
[04:41] <KM0201> or do you not know?
[04:41] <lorenz> KM0201, sorry about that--I need wifi, I didn't know
[04:41] <Huji> escott: no
[04:41] <KM0201> lorenz: whats your wifi device, or do you not know
[04:41] <syrinx_> lorenz: he was joking
[04:41] <lorenz> KM0201, Ubuntu is nice and all but that is why I bought the laptop
[04:42] <Flynn> escott, would it be easier to install ubuntu on the desktop?
[04:42] <KM0201> ..
[04:42] <escott> Huji, it sounds like you converted the key right... but i always get confused with which key you need where. i think its that you need the private on the machine soliciting the connection and the public in auth_keys on the server
[04:42] <lorenz> Oh
[04:42] <KM0201> lorenz: do you ... know.. what.. your... wifi.. device... is
[04:42] <lorenz> Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[04:42] <KuTi_> syrinx_, there is nobody awake
[04:42] <syrinx_> escott: correct
[04:42] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ dasei and guys, im burning ubuntu at slowest possible speed, 10x(K3B). is there a specific writing mode? or just leave it on auto?
[04:42] <KM0201> lorenz: that device works out of the box w/ ubuntu.. i've got 3 laptops w/ that device
[04:42] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: auto is good
[04:42] <KM0201> ar eyou sure thats what you have?
[04:42] <syrinx_> lorenz: atheros drivers are included in the kernel
[04:42] <Huji> escott: Right. And note that I'm using this same private key (before conversion) in Windows with PuTTy successfully
[04:42] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ k thanks
[04:43] <lorenz> KM0201, 'enable wireless' is greyed over
[04:43] <escott> Flynn, if the hardware is well supported there are lots of people on this channel (and lots of howtos online) for this kind of stuff
[04:43] <tripelb> DasEi, hi. I took a nap. now going out. but I saw it and I want the line and I request a PM. RE <DasEi> tripelb: for lucid ? I re-tried in a vm, want the line ?
[04:43] <KM0201> lorenz: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:43] <lorenz> syrinx_, 'enable wireless is greyed over'
[04:43] <lorenz> KM0201, How do I find that out?
[04:43] <DasEi> tripelb: si,si, una momento, digging out
[04:43] <joshmc> lorenz: If you're lucky you can hook it up to ethernet, and use propriatary drivers to dl the drivers, that could work. (of course if you've already done that, or someone else suggested it and I didn't notice, no problem).
[04:44] <KM0201> lorenz: open a terminal and type this... "lsb_release -a"  no quotes and hit enter
[04:44] <escott> Flynn, the biggest potential issue would be the wireless card in the desktop. is it well supported by ubuntu, and does the ubuntu driver support running it in managed mode. some wireless are not supported in anything but client mode
[04:44] <KM0201> lorenz: make sure thre's a space after release
[04:44] <Flynn> escott is 5 gigs big enough?  Or maybe a smaller distro that uses less memory?
[04:44] <lorenz> KM0201, 10.04
[04:44] <KM0201> lorenz: that device shoudl work out of the box w/ 10.04.
[04:44] <KM0201> no problem
[04:44] <syrinx_> lorenz: did you install or are you running the livecd/usb?
[04:44] <escott> Flynn, i don't think ubuntu would fit in 5 gigs, but a basic debian certainly would. you don't need the gui
[04:45] <DasEi> tripelb: sudo software-properties-gtk --enable-ppa=psyke83/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-equalizer
[04:45] <wonginator1221> I also have an ssh client issue with one of my ubuntu 11.04 boxes.  There is one particular group of server that gets stuck on "debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP", however all of my other unix boxes have no trouble sshing into it.  Googling and trying various "fixes" did not resolve the issue
[04:45] <escott> Flynn, you could do all this off a usb-stick livecd just to make sure it works
[04:45] <Flynn> escott, I have no idea, Belkin wireless adapters are pretty common though.
[04:45] <lorenz> syrinx_, Live CD with internet connection...hard wire
[04:45] <KM0201> syrinx_: it should work even on the live cd.. it even supports a network install on the alt. cd
[04:45] <escott> Flynn, figure out the exact model and ask the channel
[04:45] <Huji> escott: figured it out. It was a stupid permission problem. Chmod again fixed my issue
[04:45] <syrinx_> KM0201: it doesn't. I didn't for me
[04:45] <Huji> escott: Thanks though
[04:45] <lorenz> KM0201, I get no wireless signals and 'enable wireless' in greyed over
[04:45] <wonginator1221> I've tried reinstalling Openssh client and server but i still have had no luck
[04:45] <syrinx_> KM0201: until I actually installed, dunno why though :/
[04:46] <KM0201> syrinx_: maybe it was debian i used afor a network install.. but that device definitely works on a live CD.. it has since.. 9.04?.. 8.04 and 8.10, required a patch
[04:46] <lorenz> KM0201, And I do not know how to ungrey it, or in other words, get the signal tyo pick up
[04:46] <ladyl> fresh install 11.04 gimp fails ! ! ! ! ! !!!!
[04:46] <KM0201> lorenz: are you installed, or are you on the live cd?
[04:46] <lorenz> KM0201, Installed
[04:46] <ladyl> segmentation fault
[04:46] <KM0201> lorenz: also, are you using 32 or 64bit
[04:47] <lorenz> KM0201, 64
[04:47] <escott> Flynn, i should be saying "Master" instead of managed (both are part of managed, but you want Belkin as the master of the managed network)
[04:47] <KM0201> hmm, maybe thats it.. cuz i only use 32bit
[04:47] <syrinx_> KM0201: lol, he just told me he was on the livecd
[04:47] <syrinx_> hmmmm
[04:47] <KM0201> syrinx_: he's probably just trolling
[04:47] <DasEi> tripelb: you then find it under sound & video
[04:47] <syrinx_> must be
[04:47] <lorenz> KM0201, someone told me about hardware drivers search, and that brought up nothing. I got 'no proprietary drivers'
[04:48] <ladyl> @ glib 2.28
[04:48] <KM0201> lorenz: because ath5k, is int he kernel, you don't need a driver search.. so either 1. you're not using ubuntu 10.04, 2. you're not using ubuntu period, or 3. there's a problem w/ 64bit ath5k.. like i said, iv'e never used 64bit.
[04:48] <lorenz> syrinx_, I USED A LIVE CD TO INSTALL
[04:48] <Flynn> Does anyone use a belkin basic wireless adapter f7d1101?
[04:48] <KuTi_> with me it is absent performs from firefox to close or minimise. can somebody help me?
[04:49] <syrinx_> lorenz: pretty much everyone here did
[04:49] <lorenz> KM0201, My wifi does not work after I installed ubuntu with a live CD
[04:49] <lorenz> I was told it would work, does anybody know how to enable it?
[04:49]  * KM0201 sighs
[04:49] <lorenz> Or am I in the wrong channel?
[04:49] <KM0201> lorenz: pastebin the output of lspci
[04:49] <DasEi> !wifi | lorenz
[04:50] <lorenz> KM0201, http://pastebin.com/pD8qUPAy
[04:51] <TheBunTu> is unity supose to resemble gnome3
[04:51] <escott> Flynn, if you get no response boot the livecd and see if you can run sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid test mode Master. if you can then everything should be pretty easy for you
[04:51] <escott> TheBunTu, not really, but they have some similar design goals
[04:51] <lorenz> ubottu, thanks
[04:52] <KM0201> lorenz: i dunno, i have no explanation for your problem....
[04:52] <DasEi> lorenz: ubott.. is the channel ro-bot, triggered by "!"
[04:52] <lorenz> I got a virus on my laptop and am trying ubuntu, but in the house I am in I only get a wifi location and am borrowing the wired connection
[04:53] <lorenz> I have to go back to windows if I cant get this to work
[04:53] <TheBunTu> escott, yeah gnome menu...witch looks like gnome3 menu....and that is part of gnome3 i dont like
[04:53] <lorenz> No offense
[04:53] <lorenz> I just need it
[04:53] <KM0201> lorenz: http://pastebin.com/UR3xtsXU
[04:53] <escott> !classic | TheBunTu
[04:53] <KM0201> lorenz: my suggestion, would be to download the current version of ubuntu, or if you just don't want to use unity, then download xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:54] <DasEi> lorenz: I use win for gaming, too; see if you cann find your model in the list, or follow Km02..
[04:54] <Kizza> hi
[04:54] <mbaurskrey> Hey, anyone here mind checking if the website gnome-look.org works for you? I can't seem to access it, wondering if it's just me or their servers
[04:54] <TheBunTu> i know that
[04:54] <lorenz> DasEi, Yeah, Windows, right?
[04:54] <lorenz> It seems there is really know way to get the wifi to work
[04:54] <wonginator1221> mbaurskrey: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[04:54] <zc00gii> uh, so, this is a netbook,small screen
[04:54] <DasEi> lorenz: now we are in ubuntu, read the link or follow km02..
[04:55] <lorenz> I googled a search and other people have issues with my card
[04:55] <zc00gii> somethings like, awkwardly adjust when I click on the window each time
[04:55] <KM0201> lorenz: i'm seriously thinking you're trolling.
[04:55] <lorenz> using ubuntu
[04:55] <wonginator1221> mbaurskrey: but down nonetheless
[04:55] <syrinx_> mbaurskrey: looks like it's down
[04:55] <zc00gii> so I can't usesome apps
[04:55] <mbaurskrey> Haha, thanks for the link.
[04:55] <ubuntu_guest> Hey guys, I'm currently using Ubuntu 11.04 but I want to go back down to 10.10, I have a separate Home Partition... can I just keep the username and have all the settings import or would that cause incompatibility problems with config files and stuff?
[04:55] <zc00gii> ie evolution
[04:55] <KM0201> if there was "no way to get wifi working".. then i wouldn't be using wifi right now.
[04:55] <lorenz> KM0201, You need to make up your mind
[04:55] <lorenz> KM0201, First you say it does not work, then it does--which is it?
[04:55] <mbaurskrey> Well, then does anyone have the Area o.42 icon set or know where to download it from outside of gnome-look.org
[04:56] <KM0201> lorenz: uh no, you need to re-read what i said... the device works fine... but.. good luck figuring it out
[04:56] <DasEi> ubuntu_guest: data will remain, not apps n configs, why not switch natty to gnome just ?
[04:56] <escott> zc00gii, yeah evo is a bit of a screen hog, there are some lighter weight email clients that might be better suited to the hardware and screen size
[04:56] <lorenz> KM0201, Okay, seriously--because it is important--how?
[04:56] <KM0201> lorenz: i dunno...
[04:56] <lorenz> What do I click to get it to work?
[04:56] <lorenz> Anybody?
[04:56] <escott> ubuntu_guest, some of those .* files may cause problems, but if they do you can just remove them
[04:57] <ubuntu_guest> DasEi, Because for some reason, Ubuntu 11.04 runs slower so I figured I will just stick downgrade to what works correctly :)
[04:57] <lorenz> I click the network connection icon and NO wifi signals appear
[04:57] <ubuntu_guest> escott, thanks :)
[04:57] <lorenz> I right click and 'enable wireless' is greyed over
[04:57] <lorenz> There seems to be no option to enable it
[04:57] <lorenz> That means it. might. not. work.
[04:58] <DasEi> lorenz: iterate through the link and try to find your nic
[04:58] <i_is_broke> lorenz, what type of wifi card is it?
[04:58] <KM0201> DasEi: we've determined his wifi card
[04:58] <lorenz> i_is_broke, Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[04:59] <KM0201> he seems to be the only person on the planet who's atheros ar5001 (which is ages old) doesn't work out of the box.
[04:59] <syrinx_> lorenz: maybe adding ath5k to /etc/modules might work
[04:59] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo apt-get install hwinfo && hwinfo | grep network
[05:00] <KM0201> syrinx_: should be there by default ocne the device is detected.. i dunno.. like i said, i have that device on 1 laptop, and 2 netbooks, and they've worked flawlessly since 8.10
[05:00] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/UTXb9EqN
[05:00] <syrinx_> KM0201: got it on my netbook as well I believe, works fine here
[05:00] <KuTi_> with me it is absent performs from firefox to close or minimise. can somebody help me?
[05:00] <rww> lorenz: pastebin the output of 'rfkill list', please.
[05:01] <lorenz> rww, http://pastebin.com/3M4yDpEn
[05:01] <amin4> guys  a quick question i register to nikserver of freenode with my email via command in XCHAT how could i change the password
[05:01] <syrinx_> well there you go
[05:01] <DasEi> lorenz: still not clear which model  hwinfo | grep WLAN
[05:01] <escott> KuTi_, what kind of gui? unity or classic gnome?
[05:02] <rww> amin4: see /msg nickserv help set password, and ask in #freenode for nickserv help
[05:02] <Flynn> escott, windows pinged linux, linux won't ping windows, does that mean anything?
[05:02] <rww> syrinx_: Indeed. Can you take it from here :)?
[05:02] <KuTi_> escott, classic gnome
[05:02] <mbaurskrey> Does anyone have the tar for the Area o.42 icon set or know where to download it from outside of gnome-look.org?
[05:02] <escott> KuTi_, system->preferences -> desktop preferences  and disable desktop effects (i think thats where it is)
[05:03] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/CLJBr3Az
[05:03] <syrinx_> rww: not really, never dealt with that. I'm guessing it's blacklisted, thats as far as I can take it lol
[05:03] <syrinx_> oh, durr
[05:04] <rww> lorenz: Do you have a button on your computer that toggles the wifi on and off? If so, press it. If not or if that doesn't help, 'sudo rfkill unblock 0' may help.
[05:04]  * rww hasn't played with rfkill much, isn't sure of the correct invocation
[05:04] <syrinx_> lorenz: unplug the eth0 and try again
[05:04] <escott> Flynn, i don't know for sure. could be windows not responding to the ping, or ubuntu not knowing where the gateway for the windows ip is... which shouldn't be because they are on the same subnet... thats a question that dips a bit further into wifi knowledge than i have
[05:04] <syrinx_> google taught me that :D
[05:05] <Flynn> k
[05:05] <escott> Flynn, but if you can't ping both ways the sharing isn't going to work
[05:05] <KuTi_> escott,  ubntu ultimate 2.8 gnome theme classic and run compiz-fusion...other programme none has probleme
[05:05] <briney> can ebox systems  be installed on a lts system to make it usable as a network appliance as well as a desktop?
[05:05] <KuTi_> +u
[05:05] <nicksa> Salutation
[05:05] <skumara> Iḿ installing something in ubuntu software centre. How do I know what is going on in background?
[05:05] <lorenz> rww, I have a button that glows blue, but pressing it does nothing and after I typed your command, the 'enable wireless' thing is still greyed over when I right click
[05:06] <escott> KuTi_, program specific i dont know why firefox would be missing its window manager decorations
[05:06] <nicksa> what is the default terminal in ubuntu? xterm !
[05:06] <lorenz> rww, The light always glows blue, not matter what
[05:06] <rww> nicksa: gnome-terminal
[05:06] <briney> skumara ps aux } grep {search term}
[05:07] <syrinx_> lorenz: try what I just told you
[05:07] <lorenz> rww, In windows, it usually means I am able to detect swifi ignals
[05:07] <briney> oops   make that ] an |
[05:07] <lorenz> syrinx_, Unplug? You mean leave this channel?
[05:07] <syrinx_> lorenz: eth0 is probably hard blocking the wifi
[05:07] <syrinx_> lorenz: yea, if it doesn't work, come on back
[05:07] <lorenz> syrinx_, I unplugged it and still get no wifi
[05:07] <KM0201> syrinx_: hmm it shouldn't be, but i guess its possible.
[05:07] <lorenz> I tried many things before going on this channel
[05:08] <skumara> briney i get error: garbage option
[05:08] <KuTi_> espeed, I do not understand it also why it only with firefox it seems, here so I am
[05:08] <briney> sorry let me try again
[05:08] <rww> lorenz: Your wifi is apparently not functioning because the rf killswitch is activated. You'll need to figure out how to stop that. I don't use wifi much, so I don't know how.
[05:08] <lorenz> rww, Oh, okay. Thanks.
[05:08] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo hwinfo| , see if we get the vendor of that device, there is still no unique id in the outputs
[05:08] <briney> ps aux | grep [whatever you are looking for]
[05:09] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo hwinfo| more              , see if we get the vendor of that device, there is still no unique id in the outputs
[05:10] <nicksa> rww: alright , i've asked becuase am trying to figure out why is the Arabic characters displied in reverse.
[05:10] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/4W8ybuZJ
[05:10] <skumara> briney, it works thanks
[05:11] <KuTi_> espeed, uninstall and anew instal nothing has brought
[05:12] <froes> hey, i have installed sun`s java installed but applets does not work on firefox or chrome
[05:12] <froes> how can i enable it ???
[05:12] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo hwinfo| pastebinit               , give resulting url here
[05:13] <rww> froes: which sun java package did you install?
[05:13] <ladyl> wtf izis.. how can you just break gimp and ship that fail to millions?
[05:13] <KM0201> ladyl: gimp is broken?
[05:13] <syrinx_> lorenz: the only things I can think of are, the netbook has a keybinding to turn on the wifi, or a BIOS setting
[05:13] <lorenz> DasEi, You are one of those super Linux people...holy...
[05:13] <kjxl9> hey
[05:13] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/E8h8H4ez
[05:13] <ladyl> seems like a serious buildsys fail  for gtk..
[05:13] <theBloom> hello
[05:14] <kjxl9> i need a mounting program, which do you guys recomend
[05:14] <ladyl> KM0201: yep. natty fresh install. segv.
[05:14] <theBloom> I come to you with a strange and annoying problem.
[05:14] <KM0201> ladyl: weird, it works fine for me
[05:14] <lorenz> syrinx_, I don't have a netbook, I have a cheap compaq
[05:14] <syrinx_> lorenz: laptop or desktop?
[05:14] <syrinx_> lorenz: or even easier, what model
[05:14] <KuTi_> OK then I must instal because of firefox betriebssystem anew  :(
[05:14] <lorenz> syrinx_, laptop compaq presario cq60
[05:15] <ladyl> KM0201: ha. us.archive here.. maybe a mirror switch. but its up. and busted.
[05:15] <KuTi_> args ubuntu
[05:15] <KM0201> ladyl: dunno, can't explain it.
[05:15] <iszak> Has anyone noticed the boot up time on Ubuntu 11.04 to be slower than 10.10?
[05:15] <iszak> by boot up I mean login/start up.
[05:15] <kjxl9> i need a mounting program, which do you guys recomend?
[05:15] <ladyl> KM0201: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2011-05/msg14663.html
[05:15] <lorenz> I decided to try ubuntu and leave windows since I have the weekend to try it out and decide
[05:15] <KM0201> kjxl9: to mount what?
[05:15] <bazhang> kjxl9, gmountiso
[05:15] <kjxl9> iso
[05:15] <KuTi_> bye bye
[05:15] <lorenz> it looks pretty good
[05:16] <kjxl9> i have that one but cant figure out how to work it
[05:16] <lorenz> just the wifi i really need
[05:16] <ladyl> open bugs.. 'undecided' status.
[05:16] <KM0201> ladyl: not disputing you're not having a problem, i've just got gimp working flawlessly, no prob.
[05:16] <syrinx_> lorenz: the wifi button is the blue light, turn it off and turn it on again
[05:16] <ladyl> haha :)
[05:16] <bazhang> kjxl9, right click open with
[05:16] <zc00gii> uh
[05:16] <lorenz> syrinx_, if i touched any more, I would be charged with molestation
[05:16] <syrinx_> lol
[05:16] <kjxl9> i chose an image and an empty folder, now what?
[05:17] <kjxl9> and i mounted
[05:17] <zc00gii> I want something like USA international keyboard with altgr deadkeys but for dvorak
[05:17] <zc00gii> I can only find one with regular dead keys and no dead keys
[05:17] <DasEi> lorenz : it's atheros, ath5k
[05:17] <kjxl9> but it didn't react like you do when you insert a disk
[05:17] <KM0201> DasEi: we've known that fr a while.
[05:17] <kjxl9> the program usually just comes straight up
[05:17] <DasEi> lorenz : first a simple try : sudo ifup wlan0
[05:17] <lorenz> DasEi, is it possible to get it to work in ubuntu?
[05:17] <syrinx_> KM0201: lmao
[05:17] <lorenz> DasEi, oh, okay
[05:18] <DasEi> lorenz : think so, most atheros are fine
[05:18] <ladyl> KM0201: only affects x64
[05:18] <theBloom> Does anyone know how to detach the taskbar from the top of the screen? As in give it it's own window or toolbar??
[05:18] <KM0201> ladyl: ah, ok.. then that would make sense
[05:18] <theBloom> gnome*
[05:18] <kjxl9> o my desktop there is a "removable volume" b ut it sais it isn't mounted
[05:18] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/jPUi1E1C
[05:18] <bazhang> theBloom, in unity?
[05:19] <froes> rww, i have installed sun-java6-jdk
[05:19] <theBloom> yes.
[05:19] <rww> froes: try installing sun-java6-plugin also
[05:19] <theBloom> My screen got bad cancer yesterday
[05:19] <bazhang> theBloom, not possible afaik
[05:19] <multipass> can i install gnome3 seperate of Gnome2(default)
[05:19] <bazhang> theBloom, pardon?
[05:19] <DasEi> lorenz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros?highlight=%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29
[05:19] <bazhang> !gnome3 | multipass
[05:19] <syrinx_> DasEi: we already concluded that his wifi card is hard blocked
[05:19] <ladyl> still.. not really. gtk is god here. GIMP ToolKit.. busted gimp is ubr fail. chakra's gimp works even.
[05:20] <bazhang> multipass, you can but its completely unsupported and will break things.
[05:20] <theBloom> bazhang: the thing is, I can't see half of my screen. So I need some terminal commands to get rid of Unity.
[05:20] <multipass> bazhang: ok thx
[05:20] <rww> !gnome3 =~ s/safe.*$/cannot be downgraded safely./
[05:20] <bazhang> theBloom, then boot up into classic
[05:20] <lorenz> DasEi, Strange thing..people told me this was supposed to work out of the box
[05:21] <lorenz> DasEi, People who called me a troll
[05:21] <lorenz> how about that
[05:21] <theBloom> I can't see half my screen... I can't see what I'm booting?
[05:21] <bazhang> lorenz, lets move on
[05:21] <w30> I want to edit whats on my login screen; How do I do that?
[05:21] <DasEi> lorenz: either blacklistet, a killswitch, or just not in interfaces (aka ifup)
[05:21] <KM0201> lorenz: try 32bit, then you can stop your whining
[05:22] <froes> rww, cheers
[05:22] <lorenz> DasEi, Well, thanks for your help--you obviously know a lot
[05:22] <multipass> lxde vs xfce?
[05:22] <bazhang> multipass, ask bestbot
[05:22] <bazhang> multipass, #ubuntu-bots
[05:22] <multipass> !lxde vs xfce
[05:22] <rww> multipass: lxde is more lightweight and less polished. Best to just try both and form an opinion, though.
[05:22] <zc00gii> I'd really like a dvorak with altgr deadkeys
[05:23] <bazhang> multipass, no polling here
[05:23] <abstrakt> what's the recommended way to install firewall rules on startup?
[05:23] <abstrakt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration%20on%20Startup%20for%20NetworkManager
[05:23] <lorenz> DasEi, I think this is all a bit over my head and want to enjoy the weekend. Still Ubuntu is cool
[05:23] <abstrakt> i tried that, but that doesn't actually take effect for me when I reboot
[05:23] <w30> I ripped out Unity but it's still on my login screen; How do I edit that?
[05:23] <abstrakt> and that doc doesn't do a very good job of explaining why that thing should even work
[05:23] <abstrakt> and
[05:23] <DasEi> lorenz: simply run the commands given on the link
[05:23] <abstrakt> the Network Manager docs don't explain this either
[05:23] <lorenz> DasEi, Okay
[05:24] <froes> hi i have seen on adobe`s website that it has the 10.3 version for linux. once i click deb for ubuntu >10.04 enables ubuntu-partners but the new version of flash, the 10.3 is not there . is there any reasons for that ?
[05:24] <lorenz> DasEi, wait, the date shows 2010
[05:24] <bazhang> froes, ubuntu's not gotten it into their repos yet
[05:24] <KM0201> .,.
[05:25] <theBloom> okay, so I can reboot in Classic from Terminal?
[05:25] <lorenz> DasEi, You sure it will still work
[05:25] <bazhang> theBloom, choose at login window
[05:25] <adubz> anyone figure out how to get hdmi sound working with natty
[05:25] <theBloom> bazhang, thing is, the entire left side of my screen is gone
[05:25] <theBloom> so I cannot see
[05:25] <mbaurskrey> Does anyone have the tar for the Area o.42 icon set or know where to download it from outside of gnome-look.org?
[05:26] <froes> bazhang, hummm cheers... ill manually install them then .... but it gives me a message adobe-flashplugin is a virtual package or something
[05:26] <abstrakt> wtf
[05:26] <abstrakt> why does ubuntu sux0rs so bads :/
[05:26] <bazhang> abstrakt, watch the language
[05:26] <abstrakt> wait, for real? suck is off limits?
[05:26] <bazhang> no
[05:26] <bazhang> abstrakt, use gufw then
[05:27] <DasEi> lorenz: did you finish 2,1 ? which result ? grep -r "ath5k" /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[05:27] <abstrakt> bazhang, but I don't want gufw, what about on a server, where it's headless and I don't have X?
[05:27] <bazhang> abstrakt, ufw then
[05:27] <DasEi> abstrakt: ufw
[05:27] <abstrakt> i would prefer to have docs that aren't outdated :(
[05:27] <abstrakt> ahh, ok cool
[05:27] <rww> ufw ♥
[05:27] <abstrakt> i'll check'pon it
[05:27] <w30> theBloom, ichoices don't appear until you choose a user; that was a gotcha for me 'till I noticed it.
[05:28] <abstrakt> so what's up with iptables-persistent is that still a viable option?
[05:28] <theBloom> w30: what exactly did you say?
[05:28] <w30> abstrakt, go to #hoover *smile*
[05:28] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/Fec63HLE
[05:28] <abstrakt> i see it in synaptic, hmm description seems pretty simple
[05:28] <bazhang> theBloom, choose user, at login window, then choose classic
[05:29] <abstrakt> how do I manually add stuff to /etc/init.d or do I?
[05:29] <abstrakt> like if i wanted to add a "firewall" service, and then have that service started on boot
[05:29] <abstrakt> do I have to modify runlevels?
[05:29] <abstrakt> i thought runlevels were basically obsolete, or that there was only one of them and all others were essentially the reboot signal
[05:29] <abstrakt> is that accurate?
[05:29] <DasEi> lorenz: so there you got the answer, whole message would be nice , to recover stop what ?
[05:30] <syrinx_> abstrakt: not in some distros
[05:30] <w30> theBloom, the choice for Unity - Classic - safe etc. show at the bottom of the login window after you click on a user name.
[05:30] <abstrakt> syrinx_, right but this is #ubuntu :)
[05:30] <froes> i am trying to move one file from one haard drive to another one, and this happens mv: inter-device move failed: `opt' to `/opt'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[05:30] <lorenz> DasEi, That is all, there are no further lines...I can run the command again...hold on
[05:30] <Tempus_Fugit> wow this new ubuntu is gonna be difff
[05:30] <syrinx_> askhl_: touche :D
[05:30] <abstrakt> so... what about ubuntu
[05:30] <froes> moving from NTFS to ext4
[05:30] <rww> !runlevels
[05:30] <lorenz> DasEi, Yeah, same one-liner
[05:30] <froes> is there anything i can do ?
[05:31] <DasEi> abstrakt: no, if you enable ufw, it does it automatically at bootup, sudo ufw enable, man ufw for creating rules
[05:31] <bazhang> froes, why would you need to move something to /opt
[05:31] <abstrakt> DasEi, ok, will ufw read iptables-save generated files?
[05:31] <abstrakt> like can I import my current ruleset that I have in /etc/iptables.rules ?
[05:33] <DasEi> abstrakt: yes, saved over boot-time
[05:33] <DasEi> lorenz: pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[05:33] <abstrakt> DasEi, i'm sorry what? i don't understand, what does "saved over boot-time" mean?
[05:33] <abstrakt> i'll just go read about ufw
[05:33] <froes> bazhang, "/opt" folder i use for OPTional applications installed by the user, that would not conflict with other software
[05:33] <semitones> os
[05:33] <DasEi> lorenz: it's persistent, and yes, can still manually edit iptables
[05:33] <bazhang> froes, yes, explain what you want to do
[05:33] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/WF7v6S1J
[05:34] <froes> bazhang, move a directory from NTFS to ext4
[05:34] <theBloom> bazhang, ta
[05:34] <bazhang> froes, please give the full details.
[05:34] <theBloom> I feel like Apple is screwing with my screen to advertise iPhone.
[05:35] <froes> i do a "mv -f ~/Programming/arduino/ide/alternative/arduino022 to /opt"
[05:35] <lorenz> theBloom, Apple is for rich lofters, what does the rest of the world use
[05:36] <bazhang> froes, install arduino from repos
[05:36] <bazhang> !info arduino | froes
[05:36] <lorenz> DasEi, What does 'manually edit iptables' mean?
[05:36] <DasEi> lorenz: I assume you followed the first step of the tutorial so :
[05:37] <bazhang> lorenz, firewall rules
[05:37] <bazhang> !iptables > lorenz
[05:37] <froes> bazhang, look, i dont want to be rude or anything, but could you just answer how to move from NTFS to ext4 ???
[05:37] <DasEi> lorenz: gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[05:37] <froes> bazhang, the arduino from repo is not the same
[05:37] <bazhang> froes, why would you need a 3rd party arduino when there is one in the repos
[05:37] <froes> bazhang, it does NOT matter
[05:37] <DasEi> lorenz: add a # in front of last line, the blacklist..
[05:38] <someh4x0r> does anybody know if unity-2d on omap4 is hardware accelerated?
[05:38] <bazhang> froes, no idea then, sorry
[05:38] <bazhang> someh4x0r, omap4 ?
[05:38] <DasEi> lorenz: save file, close it
[05:38] <bazhang> someh4x0r, unity-2d is not hardware accelerated in any case
[05:39] <lorenz> DasEi, That command returned nothing. It asked for my password and when I entered it...nothing happened. I did it a couple of times
[05:39] <someh4x0r> does compiz work on omap4?
[05:39] <froes> bazhang, ok but i dont understand why a moving probles as to do with arduino
[05:39] <bazhang> someh4x0r, try in #compiz , no idea what omap4 is
[05:39] <DasEi> lorenz: gksu gedit   /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf  << should open the file you pastebin'ed
[05:40] <froes> bazhang, i am rtying to move from /media/backup/music/soundtracks to ~/Music... then happens L
[05:40] <DasEi> lorenz: gedit not installed ?
[05:40] <DasEi> sudo apt-get install gedit
[05:40] <froes>  mv: inter-device move failed: `soundtracks' to `~/Music'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[05:41] <bazhang> DasEi, gedit should be there; is he not running gnome?
[05:41] <DasEi> think so
[05:41] <bazhang> lorenz, are you in gnome? or not
[05:41] <ManuelPythonist> goto #gulmon
[05:41] <lorenz> bazhang, no xfce
[05:41] <DasEi> bazhang: the file is, got it on pastebin
[05:41] <bazhang> lorenz, leafpad then iirc
[05:41] <bazhang> !info leafpad
[05:42] <lorenz> DasEi, Installing
[05:42] <lorenz> DasEi, I saw it!
[05:43] <lorenz> DasEi, And put # and hit save!
[05:43] <DasEi> hehe , no matter, but in #ubuntu it''s assumed unity or gnome, that would be #xubuntu, nvm, fine
[05:43] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo service networking restart
[05:44] <DasEi> lorenz: how do you connect ? dhcp via router ?
[05:44] <lorenz> DasEi, restart: Unknown instance:
[05:44] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo service networking stop
[05:44] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo service networking start
[05:45] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/7mpHvnnK
[05:45] <lorenz> DasEi, I have a wire hooked up the side of my laptop--so that is dhcp, right?
[05:46] <DasEi> lorenz: gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces                   , and no , that's wired
[05:46] <quick> hi pple
[05:46] <cryptodira> why is update manager giving me warnings about "untrusted sources" ??  and how do i fix this issue??  10.10 amd/64
[05:46] <DasEi> lorenz: or better paste it, so I can send you the template back
[05:47] <DasEi> lorenz: close interfaces
[05:47] <quick> cryptodira : you can install that app through the terminal
[05:47] <DasEi> lorenz: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:47] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/ZvDV1r22
[05:47] <Gskellig> so after i have ubuntu installed and configured how I want. In case something goes wrong, whats a good way to backup EVERYTHING. I was thinking a ghost image or a partition image. There any easy software that does that?
[05:47] <lorenz> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/VRxtE1xY
[05:47] <quick> cryptodira : you can install that app through the terminal . it gives untrusted if it's not in the ubuntu software center
[05:47] <Gskellig> I mean I could ghost with symantec ghost but thats sort of a hassle
[05:48] <Gskellig> and takes up a lot of space
[05:48] <KM0201> !clone | Gskellig
[05:48] <magepsycho> hi guys
[05:48] <cryptodira> quick: then why is it looking outside the software center for upgrades?
[05:48] <KM0201> woops
[05:48] <KM0201> not really what you wanted
[05:48] <KM0201> !image
[05:49] <Gskellig> not just packages though, like settings and other stuff?
[05:49] <magepsycho> when i try to run command: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[05:49] <KM0201> yeah
[05:49] <KM0201> Gskellig: only "ghost" tool im' aware of, is like clonezilla
[05:49] <magepsycho> i got the followiing error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/607290/
[05:49] <DasEi> lorenz: gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces                   modify to http://paste.ubuntu.com/607294/
[05:49] <magepsycho> any idea?
[05:49] <quick> cryptodira : Every package has dependencies if anyone of them is untrusted it'll show u that msg
[05:49] <Gskellig> im afraid of like messing up a kernel when trying to patch or something
[05:49] <KM0201> Gskellig: you can also keep your /home on a separate partition, which is where all the configuration stuff is stored
[05:49] <abc> HEY I HAVE3 SOME PROBLEMS WITH MY KEYBOARD, I HAVE A VAIO VCG-NS11OEL, MY KEYBOARD IS NOT ANSWERING CORRECTLY HOW CAN I CONFIGURE IT?
[05:49] <KM0201> Gskellig: well why do you need to patch the kernel?
[05:50] <Robstafarian> abc, what kind of trouble are you having?
[05:50] <cryptodira> quick:  ok, had NEVER seen this warning before.... so, thought i should inquire..... Thank You!
[05:50] <quick> magepsycho : you could be installing any other app or using the update manager at the same time .
[05:50] <quick> cryptodira : You are welcome .
[05:51] <abc> THE FN KEY IS NOT ANSWERING AND THE KEYS ARE NOT RESPONDING PROPERLY
[05:51] <quick> abc : is your keyboard layout correct ?
[05:51] <magepsycho> yes quick.. i am using Software manager for downloading
[05:51] <magepsycho> is that the cause quick
[05:51] <Gskellig> KM0201 how do you keep /home separate?
[05:51] <jrmcm> How compatible is a ASUS G73SW-BST8 running an intel i7 processor and a nvidia graphics card with ubuntu?
[05:51] <Almehdi> abc: The only problem i see you are having is the caps....
[05:51] <Gskellig> also i need to patch to fix some stupid things on my laptop
[05:51] <KM0201> Gskellig: well, its a little more complex if you're already installed
[05:51] <DasEi> Gskellig: in home personal data like downloads are stored, not the config or your software-choices, KM0201
[05:52] <KM0201> DasEi: .. software configuration is stored there to...
[05:52] <quick> magepsycho : yess .you can install anyone app at a time . try installin lamp after using the software manager
[05:52] <quick> magepsycho : yes .you can install only one  app at a time . try installin lamp after using the software manager
[05:52] <DasEi> KM0201: dpkg, apt ? /etc and other
[05:53] <jrmcm> abc: I have a similar problem with the fn key, havent found a fix yet
[05:53] <Robstafarian> I am planning to move my ecryptfs-enabled home directory to a new mdadm array; how do I migrate the current configuration to the array?
[05:53] <KM0201> DasEi: i said software.. if you back up (for example)... /.thunderbird   when you move that bcak to home on a new install, it will have all your mail accounts preconfigured, etc
[05:53] <DasEi> KM0201: /home are personal user files
[05:54] <KM0201> DasEi: he asked about configuring software.... if you backup home, its gonna keep your software configurations
[05:54] <abc> YOU KNOW THE KEYBOARD HAS A BUILT IN NUMBER KEY, SO I MUST PRESS FN TO ACTIVATE IT
[05:54] <cryptodira> quick:  i think something is farkled on my system.... synaptic is giving me warning about untrusted upgrades even for things i already have installed... FROM ubuntu repositories.
[05:55] <quick> abc : Please dnt use caps , it means u are shhouting . thank u
[05:55] <abstrakt> yeah, ufw isn't what I want
[05:55] <quick> run sudo apt-get update from the terminal and then apt-get upgrade
[05:55] <abstrakt> i want something even simpler, i just want to run
[05:55] <abstrakt> iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules
[05:56] <quick> run sudo "apt-get update" from the terminal and then "apt-get upgrade"  without quotes
[05:56] <DasEi> lorenz: did so, saved, closed ?
[05:56] <abstrakt> on startup, that shouldn't be too much to ask eh?
[05:56] <abc> MY KEYBOARD HAVE PROBLEMS THATS WHY I WRITE LIKE THAT ITS THE ONLYS WAY IT WILL WORK
[05:56] <abstrakt> how can I make that happen?
[05:56] <quick> abc : it;s ok then :)
[05:56] <lorenz> DasEi, Okie doke
[05:57] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo ifup wlan0
[05:57]  * syrinx_ facepalms
[05:58] <Almehdi> Almehdi help syrinx_
[05:58] <magepsycho> best lamp for ubuntu .. xampp package or lamp command?
[05:58] <lorenz> DasEi, "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0."
[05:58] <syrinx_> Almehdi: nope, but thanks! :D
[05:58] <Almehdi> ;)
[05:58] <syrinx_> lorenz: still hard blocked
[05:59] <KM0201> syrinx_: lol
[05:59] <cryptodira> quick:  it is asking for 10.04.1 lts..  cd.... even tho i am at 10.10 .....is this normal?
[05:59] <quick> cryptodira : run sudo "apt-get update" from the terminal and then "apt-get upgrade"  without quotes
[05:59] <cryptodira> quick:  yepper, did that.... why does it want 10
[05:59] <jrmcm> lorenz, ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:59] <cryptodira> quick: 10.04.1?
[05:59] <quick> cryptodira : wat are u trying to doing ?
[06:00] <abc> Robstafarian: HOW CAN I RE-CONFIGURE MY KEYS IN ORDER TO WORK PROPERLY.... W3HEN I PRESS A LETTER THE THREE DOES KEEP ON WRITING AND I HAVE TO STOP IT OTHER WAY IT WILL KEEP ON WRITTING
[06:00] <lorenz> jrmcm, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132
[06:00] <cryptodira> quick, i simply wanted to apply the current upgrades to 10.10
[06:00] <Robstafarian> abc, does your keyboard work properly when you use a different operating system?
[06:00] <DasEi> lorenz: grep -r "ath5k" /etc/modprobe.d/
[06:00] <jrmcm> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ;) sorry
[06:00] <DasEi> lorenz: still listed ?
[06:00] <Robstafarian> abc, this sounds to me like it might be a hardware problem
[06:01] <quick> you have 10.04 Lts currently installed
[06:01] <quick> cryptodira : ayou have 10.04 Lts currently installed ?
[06:01] <abc> Robstafarian: NO IT DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY IN EITHER CASE
[06:01] <jrmcm> How compatible is a ASUS G73SW-BST8 running an intel i7 processor and a NVIDIA GTX 460M graphics card with ubuntu?
[06:01] <cryptodira> quick:  no, i am at 10.10
[06:01] <Robstafarian> abc, if the problem exists in all operating systems, chances are it's a hardware problem
[06:02] <cryptodira> quick: i upgraded some time ago from 10.04.2 .... to 10.10
[06:02] <syrinx_> jrmcm: Nvidia support is pretty good in Linux
[06:02] <quick> cryptodira : you used the cmd line and still it's asking for the 10.04 lts cd  ?
[06:02] <Robstafarian> abc, it has been years since I had a VAIO keyboard, but it was my experience that Fn key combinations were invisible to the operating system
[06:02] <cryptodira> quick:  that is correct....
[06:02] <jrmcm> syrinx_, thx :)
[06:03] <jrmcm> How well does ubuntu handle sshd's and/or hybrid hd's?
[06:03] <syrinx_> jrmcm: better than ATI, the vendors don't actually make drivers for the hardware, but in order, I would say Intel > Nvidia > ATI in terms of quality of development
[06:03] <quick> i  guess did u installed the updates correctly ? lik all of them or it was a partial upgrade  ?
[06:03] <dr0id> in order to clear the contents if a file, I usually do $ > file.ext , but what does > mean really ?
[06:03] <quick> cryptodira : i  guess did u installed the updates correctly ? lik all of them or it was a partial upgrade  ?
[06:03] <syrinx_> jrmcm: and obviously, intel can't handle graphics like nvidia can ;)
[06:04] <jrmcm> syrinx_, lol totally
[06:04] <dr0id> anyone ?
[06:04] <syrinx_> jrmcm: ssd's should work great too
[06:04] <cryptodira> quick: total upgrade via locally burned cd.... ALL md5 hashes matched.... the upgrade reported success at the end.... total upgrade... No interruptions.... amd/64
[06:05] <magepsycho> anybody using 10.04 here?
[06:05] <syrinx_> we're usually quick to adapt new technologies :D
[06:05] <Slor> I have 10.04 on a netbook
[06:05] <jrmcm> syrinx_, thats what i was thinking, just wanted to get some feed back before i upgrade. any ideas about a hybrid drive?
[06:05] <jla> I'm using 11.4 on a desktop (as a server) and a laptop (as a management station) trying out kvm and following the community installation guide. ubuntu-virt-mgmt wants to pull in all sorts of stuff like python-vm-builder, qemu-kvm and fake bioses. I just want to remotely manage kvm on the desktop from the laptop, I don't get why the laptop needs that stuff. Am I missing something?
[06:05] <DasEi> magepsycho: yes
[06:05] <DasEi> lorenz: still listed ?
[06:06] <abc> <Robstafarian: UHMM BUT DO YOU THINK IT HAVE ANYWAY TO CONFIGURE FOR THE NUM LK TO LIGHT THE LED, ANN WORK.
[06:06] <logesh> which media player will support 3gp videos?
[06:06] <mzhang> I have debian installed on an external hdd - how can I let windows 7 load the grub at start? I remember I could copy the first 512 bytes, but not sure any more.
[06:06] <Robstafarian> magepsycho, I'm using 10.04 AMD64
[06:06] <syrinx_> jrmcm: never used one myself, so I can't help you there, I'm sure they work great though
[06:06] <magepsycho> if yes i would like to know the snapshot of fonts configuration?
[06:07] <magepsycho> can you go to you font configuration please?
[06:07] <syrinx_> mzhang: grub or grub2?
[06:07] <Robstafarian> abc, is Num Lock a Fn key combination?
[06:07] <dixson_hoepp> abc: you have to configure the keyboard, a friend was the same and you solved the problem by configuring the keyboard
[06:07] <magepsycho> i would like to know th esettings of fonts
[06:07] <Crash1hd> How do you set location in Nautilus to be the bar not the tabs I know I can hit ctrl L but how do you set it to be like that by default
[06:07] <DasEi> logesh: mplayer or by chance vlc
[06:07] <mzhang> syrinx_: grub2
[06:07] <jrmcm> syrinx_, ok i just wasnt sure if ubuntu whould see it as either two drives or partions
[06:07] <lorenz> DasEi, yep
[06:07] <syrinx_> !grub2 | mzhang
[06:08] <syrinx_> mzhang: oops, nevermind
[06:08] <lorenz> KM0201, Is also sending me hostile personal messages
[06:08] <jrmcm> abc make and model
[06:08] <logesh> i need link to download mplayer.
[06:08] <mzhang> syrinx_: lol I got that thanks. :)
[06:08] <lorenz> KM0201, So I better go
[06:08] <syrinx_> mzhang: hold on, ill get you a link
[06:08] <KM0201> lorenz: lol
[06:08] <DasEi> lorenz: try a reboot then, as idk how hal interacts with upstart, and it was blacklisted before
[06:08] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo reboot
[06:08] <Guest43616> installed ubuntu 10.10 on an asus 1001p eeepc for dual booting with windows 7, wifi sees connections but won't connect, any help?
[06:08] <lorenz> DasEi, thank for your help, if it works I will let you know
[06:08] <logesh> dasei ,  i need link to download mplayer
[06:09] <syrinx_> mzhang: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7539210&postcount=2
[06:09] <DasEi> logesh: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:09] <syrinx_> mzhang: should work for whatever version of win your using
[06:09] <DasEi> !pm | magepsycho
[06:09] <syrinx_> jrmcm: should see it as a separate drives
[06:09] <mzhang> syrinx_: I was trying to load GRUB2 from Windows.
[06:09] <logesh> dasei where i want to type this.
[06:09] <abc> <Robstafarian: I AM BUT IT IS NOT, THE COMBINATION IS FN SCR LK... BUT HOW3 CAN I CONFIGUR3E3 MY KEYS
[06:10] <DasEi> !terminal | logesh:
[06:10] <quick> cryptodira : i guess start logout start in safe mode and use the previous command some of the packages might be interfering with each other and file a bug or report it
[06:10] <jrmcm> syrinx_, do have to split my /boot and /home
[06:10] <syrinx_> mzhang: that doesn't make sense
[06:10] <dustbowl> #help
[06:10] <jrmcm> syrinx_, so not do
[06:10] <DasEi> logesh: or ctrl+alt+t
[06:10] <syrinx_> mzhang: grub IS the bootloader, before any OS even starts to boot
[06:10] <mzhang> syrinx_: normally it does not, but I installed my linux on an external hard drive.
[06:11] <cryptodira> quick:  ok, i will give that a try.... Thanks Again for your help!    laters.
[06:11] <abc> jrmcm:SONY VAIO VGN-NS11OE
[06:11] <mzhang> syrinx_: yes I know, but I do not want to boot from the external harddrive; I did this before but totally forgot the details.
[06:11] <Gnea> !caps | abc
[06:11] <DasEi> Gnea: pretending broken keyboard
[06:11] <syrinx_> lol
[06:11] <Gnea> heh
[06:11] <DasEi> rofl
[06:12] <dr0id> in order to clear the contents if a file, I usually do $ > file.ext , but what does > mean really ?
[06:12] <jrmcm> abc go to synaptic and search vaio, install what comes up
[06:12] <DasEi> dr0id: it's a pipe, which overwrites
[06:12] <DasEi> dr0id: whereas >> appends
[06:12] <dr0id> ohh I see. thank you :)
[06:12] <lorenz> DasEi, Still no dice. : - o
[06:13] <DasEi> lorenz: can you use the wireless icon now ?
[06:13] <lorenz> DasEi, The wireless enable is still greyed over
[06:14] <Robstafarian> I have waited long enough to answer my question again: how do I move my encrypted home to a new partition?
[06:14] <Gnea> Robstafarian: with the mv command
[06:15] <Robstafarian> Gnea, I don't have to set up any other infrstucture (other than changing /etc/fstab)?
[06:15] <Gnea> Robstafarian: that is, if your home is already mounted
[06:15] <Robstafarian> Gnea, it is mounted
[06:15] <Gnea> Robstafarian: well, I think I'd actually use cp -a instead of mv
[06:15] <Robstafarian> Gnea, I was thinking rsync -aP
[06:16] <Gnea> Robstafarian: why, if it's local?
[06:16] <Gnea> Robstafarian: cp -a  will preserve everything
[06:16] <Robstafarian> Gnea, progress bar
[06:16] <Robstafarian> Gnea, I know, I use cp -av all the time
[06:17] <tntc> I'm seeing all this stuff about Eclipse Helios not working in ubuntu and the ppa hasn't been updated beyond maverick. Is there any way to get eclipse 3.6 on Natty without a manual install?
[06:17] <Robstafarian> Gnea, so do I only copy the encrypted .Private, or everything including the decrypted /home/user?
[06:17] <DasEi> lorenz:  sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get upgrdae -y && sudo apt-get -f install -y && sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:18] <DasEi> lorenz:  sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get -f install -y && sudo apt-get autoremove  *typo above
[06:19] <lorenz> DasEi, I got 0 installed and 0 upgraded
[06:19] <lorenz> DasEi, everything appears to be the latest
[06:20] <UBuxuBU> why...when my laptop goes into suspend, can i not then talk in my xchat anymore...until i reboot
[06:20] <UBuxuBU> even though i am completely connected and never left the channel
[06:20] <UBuxuBU> in ubuntu1004
[06:20] <UBuxuBU> but only in ubuntu
[06:21] <matt_700> how can i change font
[06:21] <logesh> dasei, where i can see the installed icon for mplayer?
[06:21] <DasEi> lorenz: sudo modprobe ath_pci rfkill=0
[06:21] <DasEi> greyed ?
[06:22] <lorenz> DasEi FATAL: Module ath_pci not found.,
[06:22] <DasEi> logesh : it's under app's, sound&video , or mplayer in terminal
[06:22] <uRock> matt_700, which version of ubuntu?
[06:23] <syrinx_> lorenz: so now the module isn't loaded, AND your hard blocked...o.O
[06:23] <uRock> matt_700, which version of ubuntu?
[06:24] <lorenz> syrinx_, Indeed...are you a Rush fan?
[06:24] <logesh>  no i can't see it in.it's under app's, sound&video , or mplayer in terminal.
[06:24] <syrinx_> lorenz: of course!
[06:24] <lorenz> syrinx_, Rush 2112
[06:24] <logesh> dasEi,  no i can't see it in.it's under app's, sound&video , or mplayer in terminal.
[06:24] <syrinx_> lorenz: mhmm, bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk Rush :D
[06:24] <logesh>  no i can't see it in app's, sound&video , or mplayer in terminal.
[06:25] <lorenz> syrinx_, Rush best era 1974-1980--but I digress, yes it is blocked
[06:25] <magepsycho> how to install microsoft fonts
[06:25] <DasEi> lorenz: you still have anything related under hardwaredrivers ?
[06:25] <uRock> magepsycho, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:26] <syrinx_> lorenz: I agree, my fav album is A Farewell to Kings...anyway, a hardblock HAS to be something shutting it off manually....soft blocks are config errors/software conflicts
[06:26] <kaynos> gretings all..
[06:26] <Robstafarian> Gnea, I think I know what to do, I'm going to reboot into rescue mode and give it a shot
[06:26] <DasEi> logesh : enter  mplayer in terminal ?
[06:26] <Robstafarian> Gnea, good thing this is only a copy
[06:26] <logesh>  dasEi, no i can't see it in app's, sound&video , or mplayer in terminal.
[06:26] <Robstafarian> Gnea, thanks for your help
[06:26] <lorenz> DasEi, That is one of the first places I checked and no proprietary drivers are available
[06:26] <abc> i fix my caps for who was angry about it
[06:26] <DasEi> logesh : thus you installed it ?
[06:26] <quick> how do i give the proxy for the apt-get cmds from the commnad line
[06:27] <DasEi> abc: maybe they where broken ;)
[06:27] <kaynos> just tested the windows side by side install and installed on a non os drive, all previous contents of this drive were deleted.  is this behavior by design?
[06:27] <kaynos> latest ubuntu download
[06:27] <magepsycho> thanks
[06:27] <syrinx_> lorenz: rww mentioned to me that sometimes you have to log back into windows, set the device as active, and THEN try it in Ubuntu for it to work, don't know why though
[06:27] <quick> abc  : i wasn't angry i was just telling you . wat do u mean wen u type in caps
[06:27] <DasEi> logesh: sudo apt-get install mplayer && mplayer
[06:27] <magepsycho> DasEi = Indian?
[06:28] <DasEi> magepsycho: nope, de
 i mean that my keys are not working properly and i am asking for some help
[06:28] <dixson_hoepp> abc keyboard does not work, vaio that could be? all keys work but do not mark any letter if not numbers and numerical work like arrows!
[06:28] <magepsycho> generally indians are called desi .. so bit confused
[06:29] <preecher> is there a way to configure what is displayed when i click on the ubuntu symbol in upper left corner --like when i click on internet apps it shows me most frequest used-about 5 apps and the option to show more and available to download---can i configure to just show all that i have installed without all the other jazz
[06:29] <dixson_hoepp> that might be, as may configure, help our fellow .. someone who knows the solution
[06:29] <logesh> dasEi,  it was already installed and i am not seeing only the icon.
carajo eres arrecho escribiendo ingles
[06:29] <dixson_hoepp> google
[06:30] <lorenz> syrinx_, To log out to these caves of ice, and return to honeydew and drink the milk of ubuntu paradise
[06:30] <uRock> !google
[06:31] <DasEi> logesh: gmplayer %F
[06:31] <logesh> desei, ?
[06:31] <lehel_> the weather indicator does not work properly on 11.04, anyone knows some solution to this?
[06:31] <syrinx_> lorenz: :Dthe best, but as a (hopefully) future op, I have to do this
 not that, just do not speak English and Translates in google
[06:31] <DasEi> logesh: gmplayer if unity hides it too good
[06:32] <uRock> lehel, have yo istalled that package?
[06:32] <syrinx_> nvm then
[06:32] <uRock> lehel_, have yo istalled that package?
[06:32] <Snicers-Home> Hey fellas
[06:32] <kaynos> so.  should windows installer for 11.04 delete data on destination drive?
[06:32] <GrouchySmurf> I hate Ubuntu
[06:32] <abc> <jrmc: i search for vaio ani find a few things but nothing conserning the keys
[06:33] <dixson_hoepp> abc is telling where I am translating
[06:33] <uRock> kaynos, if you are using the Wubi installer, then no it will not delete data from the WIndows install
[06:33] <DasEi> logesh: sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer
[06:33] <syrinx_> GrouchySmurf: bye, then.
[06:33] <uRock> kool
[06:33] <andantino> has anyone successfully installed WL MSN with wine?
[06:33] <GrouchySmurf> I hate WL MSN
[06:33] <kaynos> uRock:  where do I report a bug.?  I just installed and now drive is empty. except for ubuntu folder, system volume info, and recycle bin
[06:34] <uRock> !launchpad > kaynos
[06:34] <DasEi> lorenz: I'm searching for madwifi now, but really wonder why it's greyed out
[06:34] <abc> jrmc: i search for vaio and i find a few things but nothing conserning the key....
[06:34] <kaynos> does ubuntu when running see all data on destination drive?
[06:35] <kaynos> or just what's in ubuntu folder?
[06:35] <syrinx_> DasEi: he signed off
[06:35] <quick> kaynos
[06:35] <quick> kaynos , wat do u wanna know ?
[06:35] <DasEi> lorenz: where is my freud :)
[06:36] <DasEi> logesh: working now ?
[06:36] <kaynos> quick:  i installed ubuntu using wubi installer.  ran ubuntu for a few hours.  then booted back into windows and see nothing but ubuntu folder now
[06:36] <lehel_> i installed the way it was shown here http://www.sharkypr.net/node/397
[06:36] <kaynos> drive is empty otherwise
[06:36] <KM0201> olol
[06:36] <kaynos> had 600gb of data on drive..
[06:36] <abc> how3 can i make my num lk to work in my vaio sony
[06:36] <GrouchySmurf> kaynos: did you backed your OS?
[06:36] <lehel_> my problem is that i cannot set any location, it simply doesnt accept the forward button
[06:37] <kaynos> os was on different drive.. seems fine..
[06:37] <kaynos> this was data only drive
[06:37] <quick> when u  use wubi install the ubuntu is installed as a app in window u dnt hav any physical drive , the drive wat there is in ubuntu is a file in windows .
[06:37] <quick> kaynos , when u  use wubi install the ubuntu is installed as a app in window u dnt hav any physical drive , the drive wat there is in ubuntu is a file in windows .
[06:38] <kaynos> ok.  well there must be a bug.
[06:38] <kaynos> drive is empty except for 10gb or so in ubuntu folder
[06:38] <GrouchySmurf> kaynos: drive is empty where?
[06:38] <magepsycho> who is DroidSans font fan here?
[06:39] <syrinx_> magepsycho: if ryaxnb was here, he would be ;)
[06:39] <quick> kaynos , i am not getting you . wat ur issue is ? pls explain it .
[06:40] <kaynos> GrouchySmurf:  c:\ is my w7 os drive.  d:\ had 500gb data and space so I used Wubi to install latest Ubuntu on this drive, D:\
[06:40] <GrouchySmurf> no C no D in Ubuntu
[06:40] <Mjolnir> just installed ubuntu and it asked me to restart, when  did it gives me a PXE-E53 error..... ???
[06:40] <magepsycho> i am trying some fonts in ubuntu 10.10.. which do you suggest guys?
[06:40] <kaynos> Ubuntu installed and worked great.  When I booted back into Windows 7, D drive was empty except for a single ubuntu folder.
[06:41] <syrinx_> GrouchySmurf: that's how windows see it, though :/
[06:41] <GrouchySmurf> that's normal my dear kaynos
[06:41] <quick> megepsycho : comic sans ms
[06:41] <DasEi> Mjolnir: ic burning succeeded, full error message ?
[06:41] <GrouchySmurf> is this your first time using Linux?
[06:41] <kaynos> to wipe a drive?
[06:42] <nitesh> leave
[06:42] <kaynos> no actually, but first attempt at installing inside windows on ntfs partition..
[06:42] <syrinx_> kaynos: drive D is where ubuntu go installed to, and I'm sure you wiped the drive to do so
[06:42] <syrinx_> kaynos: thats why wubi is generally a BAD idea
[06:42] <GrouchySmurf> kaynos: Windows cannot reflect how much disk amount you have at D: as when you installed Ubuntu the partition becom ext*
[06:43] <syrinx_> and if the drive *became* ext, you lost everything
[06:43] <ranjan> Hi all, i am using ubuntu natty and when i try to ssh into a machine in the lan the system gets rebooted
[06:43] <GrouchySmurf> well... I don't know wubi... I always do direct installations, so I don't know if wubi uses NTFS as filesystem with some very big file for the system
[06:43] <kaynos> it's still readable by windows.  has ubuntu/disks/.fuse_hidden00000blah..  10gb file
[06:43] <nitesh> hey i have an issue in using datacard on to connect to the internet, somtimes my network manager detects the card and smtimes not
[06:44] <kaynos> however, the rest of my data is missing.. gone..
[06:44] <celthunder> ranjan: server or the client?
[06:44] <ranjan> celthunder, client.
[06:44] <kaynos> which obviosuly was unexpected.
[06:44] <celthunder> ranjan: wierd?
[06:44] <kaynos> so much for windows install like a program, safe..
[06:44] <DasEi> GrouchySmurf: it installs an image file , iside it's ext, and you choose it's size
[06:44] <Mjolnir> dasei PXE-E53: No boot filename recieved
[06:44] <ranjan> celthunder, yes, why the hell that is happening?
[06:44] <kaynos> sure.. that worked fine.. ubuntu still boots, but it deleted the rest of the partition.
[06:44] <kaynos> data wise
[06:45] <celthunder> ranjan: not sure...if it was on the serverside that it's rebooting i could come up wit ha few things
[06:45] <nitesh> can someone help me here,..
[06:45] <nitesh> i just posted a questions
[06:45] <DasEi> Mjolnir: pxe is network boot, did you set any pxe up or used minimal installer ?
[06:45] <GrouchySmurf> kaynos: as simple as to use some recovery tool if you have very important info there... if you don't backed your info... well... you have learned a new thing to day:
[06:45] <celthunder> nitesh: modprobe the modules it'll see it then
[06:45] <ranjan> celthunder, but, its not even prompting for the password.
[06:45] <GrouchySmurf> never install Ubuntu without to know what exactly you are doing
[06:45] <celthunder> ranjan: woah...can you telnet to it? se what the ssh server is sending?
[06:45] <quick> kaynos, GrouchySmurf : when u do au wubi instal you actually dnt creat a physical partition for ubuntu . there is a file in windows which cta as a drive for ubuntu just like we use in virtual box
[06:46] <nitesh> celthunder: actually i m new to using linux can you guide me how to do it
[06:46] <kaynos> hehe..  nice guys..  I've learned nothing except that ubuntu is false advertising wubi..
[06:46] <kaynos> quick: that's what I thought..
[06:46] <kaynos> except in practice doesn't do that..
[06:46] <Mjolnir> dasei i dont think so? i never saw that before...
[06:46] <celthunder> kaynos: read what wubi does...it sounds like crap bullshit anyway...use a vm if you want that
[06:46] <quick> kaynos i told u this in the begining
[06:46] <syrinx_> kaynos: or run the livecd/usb for a while
[06:46] <DasEi> Mjolnir: which installer brought you so far ?
[06:47] <GrouchySmurf> kaynos: well... anyway, you learned something new: Ubuntu is false advertising
[06:47] <syrinx_> wubi is a waste of a computer
[06:47] <quick> nithesh : wats the question ?
[06:47] <soreau> What package does aclocal belong to?
[06:47] <kaynos> wubi = fail..
[06:47] <kaynos> concept seemed simple enough
[06:47] <syrinx_> you'll end up reformatting the HD and installing ubuntu because you don't have a windows cd
[06:47] <celthunder> nitesh: which card do you have? (chipset preferably)
[06:47] <Mjolnir> dasei i just got done installing ubuntu, it was all fine, and it asked for a restart, so i did and then this crap.
[06:47] <ranjan> celthunder, hey, unbelivable ........ when i entered ssh root@station9 in the xchat window also the same thing happened !!!!!!
[06:48] <DasEi> soreau: never heard
[06:48] <celthunder> ranjan: telnet to it
[06:48] <celthunder> ranjan: see what the server is sending
[06:48] <soreau> DasEi: What is that supposed to mean?
[06:48] <nitesh> quick: i use a 3g datacard to connect to internet , it works fine on my windows m/c but when i use it on ubuntu 11.04 somtimes it dectes as a usb modem and smtimes it does not detect
[06:48] <celthunder> and do it as a user not in group power so they can't send anything like "shut down"
[06:48] <syrinx_> Mjolnir: what happened?
[06:48] <ranjan> celthunder, hey its not the case of telneting, even when i entered that in the xchat window the same thing happened, i am now from a different machine
[06:48] <celthunder> nitesh: like i said modprobe it and itll go up...what's the chipset/card and i can probably find the modules
[06:49] <DasEi> soreau: neither heard of such a package, nor can find it in apt
[06:49] <celthunder> ranjan: i'd look at the ssh server then
[06:49] <GrouchySmurf> I hate kaynos, he's very stupid with using Linux
[06:49] <soreau> DasEi: It's an X program provided by some X dev package but I don't know which one
[06:49] <quick> nithesh : no idea . brother
[06:49] <celthunder> GrouchySmurf: lol he tried wubi...that just proves stupidity to begin with
[06:50] <ranjan> celthunder, how will it depend on the ssh server???? i entered "ssh root@station9" in xchat window bro.
[06:50] <nitesh> celthunder: its micromax 3g datacard
[06:50] <nitesh> quick: no problem i'll eventually find a solution..thx for ur help
[06:50] <Mjolnir> syrinx_ i installed ubuntu, it asked for restart, so i did, it loads up on this screen where its talking aboiut broadcom and then PXE-E53: no boot filename recieved and then another cmd line with operating system not found
[06:50] <quick> nithesh : i am sure . You'll do :) ALl the best
[06:50] <DasEi> soreau: google suggests automake : http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/automake/Invoking-aclocal.html
[06:51] <celthunder> nitesh: ok plug it in please
[06:51] <nitesh> yes its pluggd in
[06:51] <celthunder> nitesh: ok is it showing up right now?
[06:51] <Medjai> does anyone here know if i can change the icons under shortcuts when you press the <super> button in 11.04 Unity
[06:52] <ranjan> celthunder, hey its not restarting......its showing the plymouth, and the process Xorg is no more
[06:52] <nitesh> yes..it is showing as a usb storage device when i do lsusb
[06:52] <DasEi> Mjolnir: I'm over my time for today, but now you will have to boot live cd again, chroot and prbly install grub again, maybe do an update/grade
[06:52] <DasEi> !grub
[06:52] <celthunder> nitesh: ok ifconfig -a does it show up?
[06:52] <abc> ok when i solve my situation i w3ill be please3 to heelp
[06:52] <DasEi> Mjolnir: the first link decribes howto repair grub from cd
[06:52] <celthunder> abc what's your problem
[06:53] <DasEi> s*
[06:53] <ubuntuguy> I'm trying to install something over ubuntu software center and I get an error that my aptdeamon closed unexepectly, how can I fix this?
[06:53] <bullgard4> [Lucid] A GNOME menu item System > Administration > Services > (Services Settings) > Database server does no longer exist? (It contained an entry 'mysql'.) Is there a substitute?
[06:53] <nitesh> yes it showing for now
[06:53] <soreau> DasEi: Yep you're right, thanks
[06:53] <GrouchySmurf> Mjolnir: is very easy to recover grub... simply boot with some rescue system, then mount the hard disk, call grub # grub and at the GRUB prompt...
[06:53] <celthunder> nitesh: ok can you pastebin output of lsmod please
[06:54] <abc> celthunder: my keybord is not working pr3operly did you see the three in my w33riting that is just part of the problem
[06:54] <nitesh> Module                  Size  Used by
[06:54] <nitesh> ppp_deflate            12838  0
[06:54] <nitesh> zlib_deflate           26594  1 ppp_deflate
[06:54] <nitesh> bsd_comp               12777  0
[06:54] <nitesh> ppp_async              17308  1
[06:54] <FloodBot1> nitesh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:54] <nitesh> crc_ccitt              12595  1 ppp_async
[06:54] <preecher> If you’ve got Windows, you can run Ubuntu within your current system with the Windows installer (Wubi). That way, you can install and uninstall Ubuntu in the same way as any other Windows application. It's simple and safe.-----taken from the ubuntu page and people giving advice in the ubuntu help channel calling people "stupid" for following that advice---bad judgement any way you look at it
[06:55] <ubuntuguy> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 961, in simulate     trans.unauthenticated = self._simulate_helper(trans)   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1085, in _simulate_helper     return depends, self._cache.required_download, \   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 226, in required_download     pm.get_archives(fetch
[06:55] <celthunder> abc: using the wrong locales/keymap or is your keyboard literally broken
[06:55] <ubuntuguy> Help please
[06:55] <pyfon> installed ubuntu 10.10 on an asus 1001p eeepc for dual booting with windows 7, wifi sees connections but won't connect, any help?
[06:55] <Jackneill> hi can you help me?
[06:55] <GrouchySmurf> and after that, simply is a two steps command: "find /boot/grub/menu.lst" , later the setup command... reboot, and that's all
[06:55] <nit-wit> Mjolnir, did you install from inside windows?
[06:55] <MK`> we can try Jackneill
[06:56] <MK`> Is 11.04 stable? I am wary about upgrading...
[06:56] <celthunder> preecher: it doesn't sound like an insane way to test to you?
[06:56] <Jackneill> mk`
[06:56] <Jackneill> http://ideone.com/8VtlH
[06:56] <celthunder> pyfon: what're you using for a network manager/wireless card/wireless security?
[06:56] <Jackneill> when i try to install gtk i get that erros
[06:57] <MK`> I do not know that I can help Jackneill
[06:57] <pyfon> celthunder: wpa2 i beleive
[06:57] <ubuntuguy> My apt-deamon crashed, how can I fix it?
[06:57] <abc> celthunder: i dont think so because 5 can write all the letters but the num lk will not work i will thankfull for3 you help
[06:57] <celthunder> pyfon: do you have wpa_actiond or whatever that package is installed?
[06:57] <Flynn> Ubuntu 10.10 desktop won't connect to my router!  It has before but, it all of a sudden stopped!
[06:57] <nitesh> celthunder: here is my lsmod output
[06:57] <nitesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/607306/
[06:57] <Jackneill> mk`?
[06:57] <Mjolnir> fuuuh so how do i reinstall grub? is it already in my ubuntu cd or do i have to burn another cd just for grub or what???
[06:58] <bullgard4> ubuntuguy: This depends on the cause. Please report what /var/log/syslog and / or dmesg report.
[06:58] <Fredbaron> Hi and HELP Please -------one third of the way through upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4 and get this dpkg:error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openclipart-png_0.18+dfsg-10ubuntuu1_all.deb (--unpack): corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive and now the setup has stoped
[06:58] <ubuntuguy> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 961, in simulate     trans.unauthenticated = self._simulate_helper(trans)   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1085, in _simulate_helper     return depends, self._cache.required_download, \   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 226, in required_download     pm.get_archives(fetch
[06:58] <Flynn> **wirelessly
[06:58] <DasEi> Mjolnir: you can with existing live, easier with supergrubdisk
[06:58] <abc> celthunder: what is a locale/keymap
[06:58] <ubuntuguy> That's the error message that I got
[06:58] <celthunder> nitesh: usb_wwan and usb_serial i'm guessing are your two modules you need
[06:59] <nitesh> celthunder: ok...what should i do next?
[06:59] <Jackneill> anyone can help me? http://ideone.com/8VtlH that's my problem, i try to install gtk :/
[06:59] <celthunder> nitesh: unload those two (modprobe -r or rmmod) and see if it disappears from ifconfig -a then reload them and try and see if it readds it)
[06:59] <DasEi> Mjolnir: sgd is small in d/l a 150 M if I remember right, if at all
[06:59] <nitesh> k
[06:59] <pyfon> celthunder: how do I install it? tried googling wpa_actiond
[06:59] <celthunder> abc: sets language/characters you'l see /can write in
[07:00] <celthunder> pyfon: apt-get install wpa_actiond (might be named something else)
[07:00] <celthunder> pyfon: if possible i'd disable the wpa to make sure that's the problem though...
[07:00] <ubuntuguy> Is there away to reinstall apt-deamon or something?
[07:01] <bullgard4> !prefix | ubuntuguy
[07:01] <Mjolnir> dasei okay so after install how do  i get it over to the comp? it wont login or nothing its stuck on 1 screen
[07:01] <Flynn> Ubuntu 10.10 desktop won't connect to my router!  It has before but, it all of a sudden stopped!
[07:01] <nitesh> celthunder: it is giving an massage that usb_wwan is in use
[07:01] <Jackneill> anyone can help me? http://ideone.com/8VtlH that's my problem, i try to install gtk :/
[07:02] <abc> celthunder: wao you know someting i was downloading a controler an i fix it... but now the scr lk is not responding to the fn letter.
[07:02] <celthunder> nitesh: ok are you using it for the internet atm? try rmmod if you're using modprobe -r
[07:02] <ilter> Hello, i've just upgraded 11.04. After upgrade icons appeared on desktop. But size of icons are so big, how can i make smaller them?
[07:02] <celthunder> Flynn: what's your networking info (route ip subnet) look like are they all right?
[07:02] <celthunder> Flynn: and dns
[07:03] <celthunder> ilter: set a higher resolution?
[07:03] <nitesh> again the same message ..it is in use
[07:03] <celthunder> nitesh: are you using the 3g card?
[07:03] <ilter> celthunder: My resolution is highest already; 1280 * 800.
[07:04] <ilter> celthunder: But size of icons are so big even my resolution 1280 * 800.
[07:04] <celthunder> ilter: ouch?
[07:04] <Jackneill> anyone can help me? http://ideone.com/8VtlH that's my problem, i try to install gtk :/
[07:04] <MK`> !repeat | Jackneill
[07:05] <ubuntuguy> I think I figured out the issue, how do I selecte ok in the terminal?
[07:05] <Flynn>    WAN MAC Address	 94:44:52:64:1B:C6    WAN IP	174.62.129.174     Subnet Mask	 255.255.252.0    Default Gateway	 174.62.128.1       DNS Address	 68.87.71.230
[07:05] <Mjolnir> who can help me with super grub disk?
[07:05] <Flynn> celthunder, works fine with ethernet plugged in.
[07:05] <Jackneill> thanks mk.:D
[07:05] <quick> ubuntuguy : wat do u wanna select ?
[07:06] <nitesh> celthunder: yes i am on it for now....it has magically detected this time ... but my problem is that it does not detects most of the time...
[07:06] <celthunder> Jackneill: uhm maybe the git for today is broken?
[07:06] <bullgard4> ubuntuguy: The DEB program package »apt-daemon« contains the aptd script and all the data files required to run the daemon.  May be de-installing and re-installing it will help.
[07:06] <nitesh> celthunder: have a look at this u'll get to understand my question : https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/155815
[07:06] <Jackneill> celthunder i dont know
[07:06] <harikrishnan> hi guys
[07:06] <Jackneill> :s
[07:06] <ilter> Is there any program like system settings to change size of icons?
[07:06] <harikrishnan> hello
[07:06] <celthunder> nitesh: ok stop using it for a minute and eject it then reinsert and test if it's those modules if it is then just load them when yo uplug it in or make a udev rule
[07:06] <ubuntuguy> Well ,Iwas installing wine and got a micrsoft agreement, Iexited, but now I'm just going ot try to reinstall it
[07:07] <quick> harikrishnan : hi
[07:07] <harikrishnan> hi
[07:07] <bullgard4> ilter: gconf
[07:07] <bullgard4> ilter: gconftool
[07:07] <will> hey guys. is there anywhere where i can download the artwork for the ubuntu 11.04 CDs? i want to have some flashy CDs to give to my friends, but canonical only sells 32 bit versions
[07:07] <quick> you start wine again you'll get it again .
[07:07] <harikrishnan> hey quick how can we config apache2 web server
[07:07] <Fredbaron>  Hi and HELP Please -------one third of the way through upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4 and get this dpkg:error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openclipart-png_0.18+dfsg-10ubuntuu1_all.deb (--unpack): corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive and now the setup has stoped
[07:07] <harikrishnan> im unsing pinkuos
[07:07] <harikrishnan> of ubuntu
[07:07] <ubuntuguy> Is it normal for the sudo apt-get install aptdaemon to install fonts?
[07:08] <celthunder> harikrishnan: for what? default config works if you want it "quick" and don't care i suppose
[07:08] <nitesh> celthunder: i wont be connected to the internet if i plug it out...and moreover it would be uncertain if the modem would be detected that time
[07:08] <nitesh> celthunder: pls have a look i posted
[07:08] <quick> harikrishnan:  read this http://www.control-escape.com/web/configuring-apache2-debian.html
[07:08] <nitesh> * link i posetd
[07:08] <celthunder> nitesh: well if you're not going to test it then i'd guess that those are the modules and modprobe those 2 when it doesn't detect the next time if it doesn't work it doesn't work
[07:08] <Almehdi> Fredbaron: Burn a cd and do the upgrade... it will give you less head ache and a better system
[07:08] <ilter> bullgard4: How can i run gconftool?
[07:09] <ubuntuguy> OK I fixed it
[07:09] <pyfon> celthunder: that command didnt work in terminal and I can't find the correct one
[07:09] <ubuntuguy> apt-daemon somehow got uninstalled
[07:09] <ubuntuguy> thanks for the help guys
[07:09] <will> harikishnan: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:09] <Fredbaron> ok ill try it thanks
[07:09] <nitesh> ok..i'll take me chances...but do have a look at that link...i am having the exact problem
[07:10] <will> harikrishnan: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf (got your name right this time)
[07:10] <MK```> I want to upgrade to 11.04 but I also have kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed. Will it work properly?
[07:11] <celthunder> pyfon: turn off wpa and make sure that's the problem first but uh one sec wpasupplicant?
[07:11] <celthunder> MK```: why wouldn't it? you're only loadin 1 ui at a time
[07:11] <Almehdi> Fredbaron: The changes from 10.10 to 11.04 are pretty big... a lot can brake. And it normally doesn't take more than 30-60 minutes if you have a separate /home partition.
[07:11] <celthunder> MK```: or i'm assuming you are 1 WM/1 DE and yyou should be ok
[07:11] <MK```> I just want to make sure that's officially supported.
[07:12] <celthunder> MK```: dunno if it's officialy supported or not...
[07:12] <pyfon> celthunder: it's already installed and up to date
[07:12] <celthunder> pyfon: ok
[07:12] <celthunder> pyfon: does your chipset support wpa in linux?
[07:12] <Kizza> how do i play 264 files
[07:13] <celthunder> Kizza: mplayer?
[07:13] <Kizza> its doin my head in =/
[07:13] <bullgard4> ilter: Run in a terminal '~$gconf-editor'.
[07:13] <bullgard4> ilter: Run in a terminal '~$ gconf-editor'.
[07:13] <MK```> celthunder: So long as my /home doesn't break
[07:13] <pyfon> pyfon: I had wifi working a few days ago, but when I installed 11.04, then uninstalled back to 10.10 I havn' been able to get it to connect
[07:13] <Kizza> nah it cant play ut
[07:13] <Kizza> it*
[07:13] <celthunder> pyfon: kk sorry lol was a while ago :)
[07:14] <UDZGuru> hi there
[07:14] <quick> UDZGuru:
[07:14] <quick> UDZGuru: hi
[07:14] <qazzaq> hi
[07:14] <quick> qazzaq: hi
[07:15] <celthunder> Kizza: what is it a movie? vlc? mplayer or totem with all the gstreamer plugins if one of those don't play it you're looking at some really messed up format
[07:15] <Guest61284> hey guys im not sure exactly what i did but i was playing a game which froze and had to do a hard reboot but now when i login it just shows a black screen and takes me back to the login screen so i have to open a terminal with cntrl alt f2 and stop gdm and start x to login to my desktop do you guys know how i can fix this problem btw im running 11.04 with gnome shell
[07:15] <ilter> bullgard4: It says command not found ..
[07:15] <celthunder> pyfon: what's it do when you type in the info in terminal and connect?
[07:15] <Kizza> @celthunder its a backup from a ctv cam
[07:16] <celthunder> Guest61284: check your .xinitrc?
[07:16] <UDZGuru> if i type sudo apt-get update i get some weird behaviour. most of the repositories are ignored including e.g. the opera repos. here is a paste of the output http://pastebin.com/V8gsCg06
[07:16] <Guest61284> ok is that in home dir srry im a linux noob
[07:16] <Kizza> @celthunder do u know the terminal codes to get all gstreamr plugins
[07:16] <bullgard4> ilter: Install the DEB program package »gconf-editor« first.
[07:17] <celthunder> Kizza: apt-cache search gstreamer0- ? (i'm not on ubuntu atm but that'd be a good starting point)
[07:17] <ilter> bullgard4: Ooops sorry the command is working. Editor page opened.
[07:17] <UDZGuru> and here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/PuTVQeST
[07:17] <celthunder> Guest61284: Guest61284 nvm...if x starts from command line...that should be fine
[07:18] <UDZGuru> anyone an idea?
[07:18] <bullgard4> [Lucid] A GNOME menu item System > Administration > Services > (Services Settings) > Database server does no longer exist? (It contained an entry 'mysql'.) Is there a substitute?
[07:19] <magepsycho> how to install jre iin ubuntu?
[07:19] <magn3ts> bullgard4, uh, what are oyu trying to do?
[07:19] <Guest61284> can you help me out cellthunder i must need to create a new xinitrc file to autostart x at login
[07:19] <magn3ts> !java > magepsycho
[07:19] <celthunder> Kizza: I think vlc should play it
[07:19] <ilter> bullgard4: Thank you. Also could you say; n this visual editor where can i change size of icons?
[07:19] <Almehdi> Kizza: If you want to install all the gstreamer then "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0*" would do it..
[07:19] <jmknsd> got a new sandy bridge laptop, and put 11.04 on it. Seems to be working pretty well, but there is a bit of graphics lag periodically.
[07:19] <bullgard4> magn3ts: To start mysql.
[07:19] <jmknsd> do I need to do something like install drivers?
[07:19] <magn3ts> bullgard4, sudo service mysql start
[07:20] <quick> jmknsd: install the graphics driver . have u  ?
[07:20] <magn3ts> bullgard4, usually it is running by default after install.
[07:20] <bullgard4> ilter: I do not understand the word "n".
[07:20] <jmknsd> quick, I haven't installed anything mandually.
[07:21] <Kizza> @almehdi The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:21] <Kizza>  gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner : Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[07:21] <Kizza> E: Broken packages
[07:21] <ilter> bullgard4: I mean; on this visual editor where can i change size of icons?
[07:21] <quick> jmknsd: well then u'll hav to install ur graphics driver manually . then it'll not be a problem
[07:21] <bullgard4> magn3ts: My question related to starting this program using the GNOME menu. Can I start this program using the GNOME menu in Lucid?
[07:22] <magn3ts> bullgard4, I don't know, I doubt it and I certainly wouldn't advise it.
[07:22] <jmknsd> quick, I can't seem to find any; I was under the impresion that they were entirely open source
[07:22] <bullgard4> magn3ts: Why would you not advise it?
[07:23] <quick> it's entirely iopen source but the device drivers are propriertery software . you ll have to install them on yuor own
[07:23] <quick> jmknsd: it's entirely iopen source but the device drivers are propriertery software . you ll have to install them on yuor own
[07:23] <magn3ts> bullgard4, it seems a bad idea to rely on a GUI tool to start and administer services like mysqld.
[07:24] <bullgard4> ilter: There is no general menu item for that. You need first to look up the program which you are interested in. If you marked the name of your program you can look up if there is a menu item below it to change the soue fo the icons. --  A gneral way to change the size of the icons is to select another GNOME theme.
[07:26] <bullgard4> magn3ts: I did not speak about mysqld. I spoke about the program mysql.
[07:26] <Guest61284> can you help me out cellthunder i must need to create a new xinitrc file to autostart x at login
[07:26] <magn3ts> bullgard4, you want a shortcut to launch mysql?
[07:26] <magn3ts> mysql is a command line app...
[07:26] <Guest61284> hey guys im not sure exactly what i did but i was playing a game which froze and had to do a hard reboot but now when i login it just shows a black screen and takes me back to the login screen so i have to open a terminal with cntrl alt f2 and stop gdm and start x to login to my desktop do you guys know how i can fix this problem btw im running 11.04 with gnome shell
[07:26] <magn3ts> I don't understand what you want still bullgard4
[07:27] <bullgard4> magn3ts: I'd like to start mysql by clicking GNOME menu item in Lucid.
[07:27] <bullgard4> magn3ts: I'd like to start mysql by clicking GNOME menu items in Lucid.
[07:27] <magn3ts> bullgard4, and what does "Start Mysql" mean?
[07:28] <magn3ts> Open the mysql client or start a mysql database server up?
[07:29] <ilter> bullgard4: I tried to change themes but size of icons don't change by changing theme.
[07:29] <bullgard4> magn3ts: "to start a program" means to load it or important parts of it into RAM so that it runs.
[07:29] <pyfon> celthunder: it picks up other nearby networks, but now won't show mine, i disabled wpa2
[07:30] <magn3ts> bullgard4, do you want me to give you instructions to launch mysql in a gnome-terminal instance?
[07:30] <magn3ts> I sure can.
[07:30] <ilter> bullgard4: And also there is no option for size of icons on customize page of themes.
[07:31] <bullgard4> ilter: So, for practical reasons the themes had the same default icon sizes. --  Some programs allow to increase the size of icons  by pressing the key combination 'Ctrl++'.
[07:31] <gartral> if i buy something on the Ubuntu software center, can I A) get a refund if it doesn't work (obviously there should be a time limit) and B) if i switch OSes can i get the bin/deb package from somewhere?
[07:32] <magn3ts> ilter, are you wishing for small icons somewhere in particular?
[07:32] <magn3ts> bullgard4, start mysql is too ambiguous to answer. I don't see why it's so difficult to clarify if you're starting mysql the database service a mysql client.
[07:32] <Mjolnir> when partitioning for linux you should have your space for actuall installation, a space for swapping, and is there another that is needed?
[07:32] <magn3ts> bullgard4, especially considering you said "not related to mysqld".
[07:33] <bullgard4> magn3ts:  Starting the a mysql database server up.
[07:33] <gaelfx> I was having issues with my SATA ports, so I decided to install Ubuntu 10.10 on a USB flash drive, and I put my HDD in a USB3.0 dock, and everything works pretty hunky dory, except that apparently I can't use SMART status on an HDD connected via USB. Is this an issue with SMART or is there another way that I can check it?
[07:33] <GrouchySmurf> is that girl called NixiePixel here?
[07:33] <quick> Mjolnir: no it's enough
[07:33] <gaelfx> btw, I was using Disk Utility to check SMART status
[07:33] <quick> GrouchySmurf: which girl ?
[07:33] <GrouchySmurf> Nixie Pixel
[07:33] <gaelfx> Mjolnir: I strongly suggest making a separate partition for your /home
[07:33] <Mjolnir> quick oh okay, just making sure because im having some grub issues
[07:34] <ilter> magn3ts: I've just upgrade my ubuntu to 11.04. After upgraded icons appeared on desktop. But their size are so big. I've 2 questions; how can i disable seeing icons on desktop. And how can change their size?
[07:34] <Mjolnir> gaelfx why's that? i never got why linux does that
[07:34] <will> GrouchySmurf: she won't be your smurfette
[07:34] <quick> Mjolnir: ok
[07:34] <GrouchySmurf> is hot, she has nice boobies and uses Ubuntu Linux
[07:34] <bullgard4> magn3ts:  I did not say »not related to mysqld«. This was your interpretion. Since Democritus we know that almost all things are related to each other.
[07:34] <will> oh i was hoping my comment wouldn't be relevant :(
[07:34] <gaelfx> Mjolnir: well, if there's something wrong with your system and you have to reinstall, you can still keep everything in your /home without deleting it
[07:35] <magn3ts> I feel like I'm being trolled here.
[07:35] <gaelfx> Mjolnir: a good example is downloads, configurations for apps and stuff like that that is all kept in your /home folder
[07:35] <magn3ts> "" I did not speak about mysqld.""
[07:35] <will> ilter: i'm pretty sure you can just right click each icon individually and set the size
[07:35] <GrouchySmurf> who did told you I like her as my smurfette? I like to talk about Linux with her xD
[07:35] <Mjolnir> gaelfx NICE actually did not know that
[07:35] <rww> !ot | GrouchySmurf
[07:36] <will> ilter: right click and select resize icon
[07:36] <gaelfx> Mjolnir: however, if you do reinstall, you should make sure to mount the /home on the same partition and don't format it
[07:36] <zus> is there a program or software for doing flash? like in cs3 or i think theyre up to cs5 now
[07:37] <ilter> will: thanks but what about all icons?
[07:37] <qin> zus: synfig (to some extend) and maybe blender, but flash is bad thing anyway.
[07:37] <Mjolnir> gaelfx thats where i get lost. i thought you mount partitions on /whatever. how can you then mount that to something else?
[07:38] <zus> qin i thought  blender didnt for swf
[07:39] <gartral> if i buy something on the Ubuntu software center, can I A) get a refund if it doesn't work (obviously there should be a time limit) and B) if i switch OSes can i get the bin/deb package from somewhere?
[07:39] <Mjolnir> qin, zus i thought blender was 3d animation & modeling
[07:39] <Jackneill> anyone can help me? http://ideone.com/8VtlH that's my problem, i try to install gtk :/
[07:39] <zus> qin,  i was looking to finish learning actionsctipt3.0 i began on a windows machine a while back hoped to find a something in the repos  for  something like cs3
[07:40] <quick> gartral: jte apps in ubuntu spftware center are open source . you dnt have to pay for them
[07:40] <zus> Mjolnir,  it is but i think its different than flash
[07:40] <will> zus: flex SDK
[07:40] <zus> quick,  there some that are priced
[07:40] <zus> thanks will
[07:41] <Mjolnir> how big should a swap be???
[07:41] <quick> zus: i havent seen any . name on e
[07:41] <quick> zus: i havent seen any . name one
[07:41] <zus> i came across  a few of the games quick  lemme  go look,
[07:41] <nit-wit> Mjolnir, generally equal to your ram
[07:41] <quick> Mjolnir: ideally ue swap should be double the size of ur ram
[07:41] <will> zus: http://stevelove.org/2009/05/14/how-to-install-and-set-up-adobe-flex-sdk-on-ubuntu-linux/ however there may be some newer guides or documentation
[07:42] <rww> !swap | Mjolnir
[07:42] <rww> yay FAQ
[07:42] <qin> zus: Really, last time I touched AS or flash was decade ago, now jQuery is top notch.
[07:42] <Mjolnir> quick nit-wit damn what if i dont know my ram
[07:42] <nit-wit> Mjolnir, opps conflicting info....what is the size of your ram
[07:43] <nit-wit> Mjolnir, in the term free
[07:43] <will> Mjolnir: someone correct me if i'm wrong, but hibernation will need to use a file the size of your RAM and swap, so making your swap too big is a bad idea
[07:43] <nit-wit> *terminal you will now
[07:43] <jmknsd> I've looked at Intel's website, http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-012643.htm pretty much says they don't provide drivers
[07:43] <magn3ts> I wish unity would have preserved the top-right corner expose.
[07:43] <will> (assuming you want to use hibernation)
[07:43] <will> magn3ts: you can easily add it back
[07:43] <jmknsd> is anyone else getting a small amout of lag on 11.04 with sandy bridge
[07:43] <magn3ts> will, I did :)
[07:43] <rww> will: Hibernation uses your swap as storage, and requires swap >= used RAM.
[07:43] <quick> Mjolnir: chek on web by ur model no of ur laptop
[07:44] <nit-wit> will, equal to ram is all that is needed to hibernate safely
[07:44] <quick> Mjolnir: chek on web by ur model no of ur laptop . it's not an hard and fast rule .
[07:44] <gartral> quick: obviosly. but i'm interested in buying darwinia, a closed sourced, payed for game
[07:44] <kneaux> My computer keeps changing my keyboard settings on boot, where do I go to stop this from happening?
[07:44] <will> rrw & nit-wit: thanks, something was vaguely poking the back of my brain and saying something like that. thanks for the clarification :)
[07:45] <uofm49426> anyone now if fret on fire has a xchat
[07:45] <uofm49426> anyone know if fret on fire has a xchat
[07:45] <quick> gartral: it;s not there in my software center . i am using 11.04 . :)
[07:46] <gartral> quick: it's there on mine, and im on 11.04.
[07:46] <will> quick: i can confirm darwinia is there
[07:46] <gartral> !wait | uofm49426
[07:46] <Mjolnir> quick: okay i found something that said up to 2gigs
[07:46] <quick> will , gartral :  same here but it's not there in mine  :)
[07:47] <quick> Mjolnir: givw it 4 G then
[07:47] <zus> \im on kubuntu 11/04 and im not seeing any thing here that is charging how ever there was something when i was trying ubuntu 11.04 i ran across a few pay ones theyre were free for a limited time ...must have been  something new
[07:47] <uofm49426> just fixing a typo
[07:47] <gartral> will: do you know if i have a refund period, and if i can get the install file if i switch too a different os?
[07:48] <gartral> uofm49426: also, xchat is an application that accesses irc, i think your question is "does fret of fire have an irc channel"
[07:48] <quick> gartral: ask the specific app developers page . they ll have their own policies .
[07:49] <gartral> quick: introversion never answes questions
[07:49] <JaiOptik> www.stealthtrades.com - can anyone tell me why that footer is overlapping the text? appreciated greatly.
[07:49] <gartral> quick: also, the game is $5 cheaper in software center
[07:49] <uofm49426> sorry well does it
[07:50] <gartral> uofm49426: easiest way would be find their developer page and look
[07:50] <rww> !ot | JaiOptik
[07:51] <rww> uofm49426: doesn't look like it.
[07:51] <Flynn> I am sharing my xp's  internet connection!  Why does xchat think I spelled internet wrong?
[07:51] <Mjolnir> "no root file system is defined" how do i define one
[07:52] <quick> gartral:  Post it in forums . they may have answers as the audience is wider there and moe experienced
[07:52] <quick> Mjolnir:  are u sing manual install ?
[07:52] <quick> Mjolnir:  are using manual install ?
[07:52] <Mjolnir> yes i am quick
[07:53] <Mjolnir> honestly without a lot of knowledge to go with it quick
[07:53] <qin> JaiOptik: Not sure, but put footer in bottombody or put both in extra container (god know what should css looks like)
[07:53] <zus> is 2.8.8 the latest  xchat?
[07:54] <quick> it's ok select the drive wich u want root as  select the file system which u wanna make root and select the mount point as  /
[07:54] <bazhang> zus, in ubuntu repos, yes
[07:54] <Mjolnir> quick and root should be that aprtition that i want to install to right?
[07:55] <zus> bazhang,  does that mean its also the latest not counting bleeding edge version?
[07:55] <Mjolnir> and what with the part. types... is ext4 okay?
[07:55] <bazhang> zus, latest stable in natty
[07:56] <bazhang> zus, if you want some more info you may try #xchat
[07:56] <gartral> software center won't connect too the payment service for any payed app.. it keeps throwing "peer failed to perform TLS handshake"
[07:56] <rww> zus: Yes, 2.8.8 is the lastest xchat. See the /topic of #xchat.
[07:56] <pfifo> zus, 2.8.8 is the latest stable of both ubuntu and the source the only thing more bleeding edge would be a svn/git checkout
[07:57] <zus> thanks everyone
[07:57] <zus> is anyone having  issue with the client not auto signing your password with nic serve?
[07:57] <quick> make it a physical drive . et4 willbe good and make the mount point as  /
[07:58] <pfifo> zus, here on freenode?
[07:58] <quick> Mjolnir: make it a physical drive . et4 willbe good and make the mount point as  /
[07:58] <zus> yea
[07:58] <zus> i have to manually  do the /msg nicserve <password> to be identified
[07:58] <pfifo> zus, not here, maybe you have weird character in your password?
[07:59] <Mjolnir> quick what do you mean a physical drive? i dont wanna f this up...
[07:59] <bazhang> zus, put username:pw in server field to auto-identify
[07:59] <zus> nope because when i manually do it its fine, but when i put it in the  password field it doesnt work
[07:59] <zus> bazhang,  thats where i mean i dont like it  -
[08:00] <bazhang> zus, then follow what I said. it works fine.
[08:00] <pfifo> zus, perhaps you put it in the wrong pw field, theres one for the network and one for nickserv
[08:00] <aaron_tod> hello everybody~
[08:00] <zus> i know, i tried  both, and  i tried with both fields filled  out
[08:01] <pfifo> zus, your probbally best trying what bazhang said and failing that asking in #xchat
[08:01] <quick> nothing
[08:01] <quick> Mjolnir: nothing
[08:02] <zus> yeah ill go to xchat thanks  again everyone
[08:03] <prashant__> i mounted my ext3 partition on /home any solutions to access the drive ??
[08:03] <quick> Mjolnir:  are u done with install ?
[08:03] <gaelfx>  I was having issues with my SATA ports, so I decided to install Ubuntu 10.10 on a USB flash drive, and I put my HDD in a USB3.0 dock, and everything works pretty hunky dory, except that apparently I can't use SMART status on an HDD connected via USB. Is this an issue with SMART or is there another way that I can check it?
[08:04] <Flynn> OK I may have scr...  messed up. I created a network specifically so I could share my Internet connection and now Ubuntu (10.10) doesn't "see" my windows networks.
[08:04] <Mjolnir> quick i think i did something wrong? ubi-partman failed with exit code 10, and then exit code 141 when i retried
[08:04] <pfifo> gaelfx, its probbally the dock I have to ask "Does it work in windows"
[08:05] <gaelfx> pfifo: I've not used it in windows
[08:05] <pfifo> gaelfx, afaik scsi emulation supports smart, so it should work
[08:06] <cowbud> /part/
[08:07] <BeerBaron> why is firefox so slow in ubuntu?
[08:07] <Flynn> Evanescense:  Greatest late 90s Early 2000s metal band with a female singer ever!
[08:07] <quick> Mjolnir:  u are usnig 11.04 ?
[08:08] <gforces> quit
[08:08] <Mjolnir> yup quick
[08:08] <gartral> USS is slooow
[08:08] <magn3ts> USS or USC?
[08:09] <Flynn> BeerBaron Firefox is always slow.  http//www.opera.com
[08:09] <mearaji> hello
[08:09] <magn3ts> BeerBaron, Mozilla has admitted it and it's a major focus for either ff5 or ff6
[08:09] <Flynn> Hello
[08:09] <quick> Mjolnir: there was a bug as given here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1679285 . give it a try once again .
[08:09] <dolmen> BeerBaron, http://glandium.org/blog/?p=1975
[08:09] <mearaji> where is firefox video cache in ubuntu-11.04 ? in older version in find this in /tmp !
[08:10] <mearaji> where is firefox video cache in ubuntu-11.04 ? in older version i find this in /tmp !
[08:10] <pdtpatrick_> Question - how come when ubuntu is first installed if you type a hostname like: server.dev.local .. it will only recognize the server part and ignore the rest ... also it does not permit a user login like firstname.lastname
[08:10] <iszak> mearaji, we heard you the first time.
[08:10] <bazhang> mearaji, why do you need it
[08:10] <Flynn> OK I may have scr...  messed up. I created a network specifically so I could share my Internet connection and now Ubuntu (10.10) doesn't "see" my windows networks.
[08:11] <mithran> is opera faster than chrome?
[08:11] <BeerBaron> Hmm
[08:11] <BeerBaron> Firefox under windows is definitely not slow
[08:11] <Flynn> mithram, prob.
[08:11] <BeerBaron> I mean it takes like 10 seconds for some pages to even load
[08:11] <BeerBaron> they load slow, that's the problem
[08:11] <pfifo> Flynn, Can you give some more info
[08:11] <gartral> software center ate my game :_;
[08:12] <pfifo> BeerBaron, there are a few tricks you can do to speed up FF, about:config has some settings
[08:12] <mearaji> bazhang I need download video on this site : "http://ontwik.com/tools/vim-from-novice-to-professional-by-derek-wyatt-p1/"
[08:12] <gartral> where can i go for support for software center?
[08:12] <Flynn> mithran, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&hs=vWU&rls=en&channel=suggest&q=firefox+vs+chrome&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=firefox+vs+
[08:12] <BeerBaron> Is FF somehow configured differently in ubuntu than windows?
[08:13] <bullgard4> People are telling me that "mysqld_safe and mysqld should be running on your system" Why does Ubuntu Lucid not start mysqld_safe?
[08:13] <Flynn> pfifo, such as?
[08:13] <mearaji> bazhang Or any videos for other sites ...
[08:14] <BeerBaron> doesn't matter if opera/chroma is 10% faster when FF has treestyle tabs and adblock. My problem is that pages take forever to load.
[08:14] <pfifo> Flynn, what did you do to your system? are you following a guide? what is your topography?
[08:14] <will> BeerBaron: i'm pretty sure it's compiled using gcc instead of the intel compiler which MAY have a slight detrimental effect in performance
[08:14] <will> though it's likely some other problem
[08:14] <bazhang> mearaji, those wont load for me. there is a fx video download helper if you can get them to load
[08:15] <BeerBaron> will: No I don't think it's related to compilation. Navigating the oages in itself is not particularly slow, but the loading is.
[08:15] <quick> Mjolnir:  try it once again .
[08:15] <BeerBaron> It might be some difference in configuration
[08:15] <BeerBaron> or networking
[08:16] <mearaji> bazhang this videos cache in /tmp on your system ?
[08:16] <bazhang> mearaji, it does not load at all, so no
[08:16] <mithran> Flynn: i think chrome seems to be doing better in the tests
[08:16] <pdtpatrick_> Question - how come when ubuntu is first installed if you type a hostname like: server.dev.local .. it member:will only recognize the server part and ignore the rest ... also it does not permit a user login like firstname.lastname
[08:16] <Flynn> pfifo, I don't remember ever clicking on places-networks-windows networks and not seeing anything  so, I don't really remember how they got there but, now they're gone!  I wasn't following a guide i just made a new network and now I don't see any.
[08:18] <gartral> this isn't cool. ubuntu software center isn't letting my purchased game install
[08:18] <Flynn> mithran, then get chrome.  The tests I saw said Opera was  best.  But, you specifically asked about firefox v. chrome.
[08:18] <quick> gartral:  at last u purchased it :)
[08:18] <pfifo> Flynn, windows 'networks' (workgroups) are only available to the local subnet to machines with the same workgroup name. So either #1 you changed your workgroup name OR #2 you are not on the same subnet
[08:18] <gartral> and i keep getting an ssl timeout when i try too install via apt-get
[08:19] <Flynn> pfifo,  Hmm.  how do I change my workgroup name?
[08:19] <pfifo> Flynn, I dont know
[08:20]  * vibhav ready to help others!
[08:20] <gartral> quick: well i'm going too want a freaking refund if it continues too fail drastically like this
[08:20] <lolzer> gartral it happened to me once
[08:20] <Flynn> Well, I guess I'll google that.
[08:20]  * vibhav  is ready to help others!
[08:20] <gartral> lolzer: what did you do too fix it
[08:20] <bazhang> vibhav, please dont do that
 what is the problem
[08:20] <vibhav> oh hi bazhang!
[08:20] <mithran> i was on about chrome vs opera..
 what is the problem
[08:21] <gartral> vibhav: i bought darwinia off of Software Center and it won't install.. also apt-get is giving an ssl timeour
[08:21] <mithran> i have chrome, was wondering if it was worth trying operra
[08:21] <gartral> timeout
[08:21] <soreau> ! tab | vibhav
[08:21] <thien> my ubuntu 11.04 is very often crash. i don't know why. :(.
[08:22] <vibhav> gartral, do you a  proxy?
[08:22] <gartral> vibhav: no
[08:22] <soreau> mithran: It's free to try opera.. so why not just try it?
[08:22] <GrouchySmurf> I hate your crashing Ubuntu :@
[08:22] <vibhav> gartral can you post me a screenshot?
[08:22] <soreau> GrouchySmurf: Which version of ubuntu?
[08:23] <GrouchySmurf> I hate screenshots :@
[08:23] <soreau> thien: What do you mean by crash?
[08:23] <gartral> vibhav: i'd rather not, not of apt-get anyway, and there's no error, it just acts like it's installing, then doesn't
[08:23] <vibhav> gartral can you tell me the error in  pastebin??
[08:24] <vibhav> gartral can you tell me the error in  pastebin??
[08:24] <gartral> vibhav: the specific error that apt-get is giving me says "failed to fetc <URL too private ppa> SSL timeout at 118842
 i couldnt get a way around it... was a year back
[08:25] <thien>  soreau: monitor becomes like thís http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5980/dsc00299j.jpg but there is still sound
[08:25] <mithran> soreau, i just installed chrome, so i think ill try it for a bit more :)
[08:25] <pfifo> pdtpatrick_, its probbally putting server as the hostname and .dev.local as the domain name, and you can not use uppercase in the username so User.Name would fail but user.name SHOULD work
  try a reboot
[08:25] <soreau> thien: Which graphics driver?
[08:26] <Flynn> pfifo, ok thAT WORKGROUP THING DIDN'T WORK.  wHAT'S A subnet?
[08:26] <pfifo> Flynn, a rather complicated concept http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[08:27] <thien>  soreau: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:28] <bullgard4> People are telling me that "mysqld_safe and mysqld should be running on your system" Why does Ubuntu Lucid not start mysqld_safe automatically?
[08:28] <soreau> thien: Do you have any evidence of a problem in /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog or /var/log/Xorg.0.log(.old) after restarting?
[08:28] <aurilliance> I'm trying to do all my updates so that I can upgrade to Natty Narwhal.
[08:28] <aurilliance> But the update manager gives an error every time I click "Check for updates"
 then?
[08:29] <soreau> aurilliance: stick with maverick.. have you tried a natty live session yet?
[08:29] <aurilliance> It says "Failed to download repository information" Check your internet connection
[08:29] <bullgard4> aurilliance: What error message do you obtain?
[08:29] <aurilliance> soreau, I have, and I loved it
[08:29] <soreau> aurilliance: Can you ping google.com or 8.8.8.8?
[08:29] <aurilliance> soreau, sure can
[08:30] <aurilliance> I'm chatting here. Looks like it's an issue with my ogre-dev ppa - I'll remove it and retry.
[08:30] <iAmerikan> friend trying to fix his ubuntu. dhcpcd is giving him an already-in-use IP
[08:30] <bullgard4> aurilliance: You probably have a wrong or questionalble entry in your repository list file.
[08:30] <soreau> aurilliance: You should make sure you sources are correct in /ect/apt/sources.list or the frontend, software-properties-gtk
[08:30] <iAmerikan> Any suggestions you could give me so I can help him out?
[08:30] <iAmerikan> things to google ubuntu-specific or anything/
[08:30] <pfifo> iAmerikan, posibly a duplicate MAC address issue?
[08:30] <new_kid1> aurilliance: change the server to ubuntu main server & try again
[08:30] <thien> soreau: there is some file Xorg.log
[08:30] <iAmerikan> pfifo: great thinking
[08:31] <vibhav> !language
[08:31] <vibhav> ph
[08:31] <vibhav> oh
 what is the problem?
[08:32] <mwnn> How can i print the values of various processor registers?
[08:32] <Flynn> pfifo, should I require ipv4 adressing?
[08:32] <aurilliance> Ok - I removed that PPA and now it's not giving any errors, but it doesn't show the ubuntu 11 update
[08:32] <iAmerikan> vibhav: he can't get leased a new IP w/o using a static IP
[08:32] <pfifo> mwnn, gdb would probbally allow you todo that
[08:33] <mwnn> pfifo: To be specific, I wanted to display the values of the control registers in x86 architecture
[08:33] <mwnn> pfifo: eg: cr0, cr1, etc.
[08:33] <jibadeeha> finally solved a problem as to why ubuntu doesn't always shutdown on my netbooks and feel so stupid ... at some point in the past i decided to mount /var/run as a ramdisk along with /tmp and /var/tmp ... turns out it would sometimes umount /var/run before other shutdown scripts that needed it ... duh
[08:33] <thien> soreau: what do i have to do?
[08:34] <soreau> thien: Try to find some information in the log files and file a bug report
[08:34] <soreau> thien: You could also try asking in #intel-gfx
[08:34] <pfifo> mwnn, it could be problematic as printing those registers would require the processor to change them to run the print command, im guessing gdb can do it, if not perhaps qemu or vbox can do something
[08:34] <thien> soreau: thanks
[08:35] <mwnn> pfifo: ok
[08:36] <piotr> ale o co chodzi?
[08:36] <qin> !pl
[08:36] <pfifo> Flynn, are you using IPv6?
[08:36] <Flynn> No.
[08:36] <iAmerikan> Okay it's not a shared MAC address. Does networkmanager use dhcpcd?
[08:37] <pfifo> Flynn, then your using IPv4, so nothing to worry about
[08:37] <bazhang> iAmerikan, what does sudo dhclient eth0 return
[08:38] <aurilliance> Ok - I'm trying to update to ubuntu 11, but when I click "check" the update manager doesn't show the upgrade
[08:38] <Flynn> pfifo, k 'cept its still broke.
[08:38] <quick> hi pple i was getting a msg that the applet was causing problems and was prompted to delete and i deleted it . i am not getting the network manager and battery status pls help
[08:38] <pfifo> Flynn, what is your ip/subnet for the computers, how are they connected? can you ping the windows machines?
[08:39] <qin> !resetpanel | quick
[08:39] <no_face> could anyone walk me through the movement and sync of files from home on sda to sdb please
[08:39] <bazhang> no_face, using what
[08:40] <no_face> i seen many methods, not sure which is the safest one to move
[08:40] <bazhang> no_face, syncing to the same hdd?
[08:40] <bullgard4> People are telling me that "mysqld_safe and mysqld should be running on your system" Why does Ubuntu Lucid not start mysqld_safe automatically?
[08:40] <iAmerikan> bazhang: nothing. D:
[08:40] <no_face> no, moving from a 500GB to a 1TB
[08:40] <bazhang> no_face, usb external?
[08:41] <no_face> internal
[08:41] <bazhang> no_face, rsync perhaps
[08:41] <qin> bullgard4: Same as sshd with X and root password enabled, Ubuntu != centos
[08:41] <no_face> rsync from what i have seen is the safe bet
[08:42] <Crash1hd> anyone in here have knowledge of vmware bridged connection with xp host ubuntu guest unable to ping other machine names on my network
[08:42] <pfifo> no_face, rsync is resumable and faster
[08:42] <quick> qin:  i am getting !resetpanel event not found
[08:42] <quick> ubottu:  i am getting !terminal event not found
[08:42] <bullgard4> qin: I do not undersgtand your answer well. I do not know how X and sshd relate.
[08:42] <qin> neither me... (:
[08:42] <quick> ubottu:  ya sure  :)
[08:42] <MethedMan> how do i make a folder whose contents are all copied to a folder on another hard drive?
[08:43] <quick> ubottu:  qin  : guys help me pls
[08:43] <Evanescence> what is this "-s" option mean in "sudo do-release-upgrade -s" ?
[08:43] <Flynn> pfifo:  successful packets: 0%
[08:43] <bazhang> quick, /msg ubottu
[08:43] <no_face> what switches (i guess they're called that) do i need to add to rsync current to destination
[08:43] <bullgard4> qin: Why do you say then: "Same as sshd with X and root password enabled"?
[08:43] <bazhang> no_face, checked the rsync manual yet?
[08:44] <no_face> no sir, can only assume it is huge
[08:44] <pfifo> Flynn, pastebin ifconfig on all your linux/mac machines, and pastebin ipconfig on all your windows machines
[08:45] <qin> bullgard4: That it is habit to at least skim configuratio of service before running it...
[08:45] <A_J> hey all, how can set my ubuntu 11.04 to classic mode ?
[08:45] <no_face> i'll read it. but thanks for confirming rsync
[08:45] <no_face> can i ask... how would i remove the old home folder from the original drive?
[08:46] <bazhang> A_J, choose at login window after selecting user
[08:46] <A_J> okie bazhang , so i logout now and check ?
[08:46] <Uhriventis> Yes, uhm... Is there a program within Ubuntu so that I can equalize my music and audio as it is VERY flat.
[08:46] <no_face> rm rf?
[08:46] <Uhriventis> ?
[08:46] <bazhang> A_J, yes
[08:46] <Almehdi> MethedMan: maybe rsync or similar..
[08:46] <qin> bullgard4: Default != Most sequre.
[08:47] <chipmink> what would try to load the paramenter enable spools and show in netbios log
[08:47] <bazhang> Uhriventis, system wide equalizer? not in the repos afaik, but there was a PPA
[08:47] <A_J> brb bazhang
[08:47] <Uhriventis> Everything is set to 0 0 0
[08:47] <magn3ts> bullgard4, did you ever figure out what mysqld is?
[08:47] <Uhriventis> bazhang, yes a system wide equalizer.
[08:47] <Uhriventis> Everything thing played isn't at all pleasing to the ear.
[08:47] <Almehdi> Evanescence: "man sudo"
[08:48] <oquidave> hello people.......i need alittle help with inittab....
[08:48] <wilson> hellp
[08:48] <wilson> hello
[08:48] <oquidave> i have this in my /etc/inittab.....ss:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/mt_sendsms
[08:48] <qin> Almehdi: option was from apt not sudo
[08:48] <oquidave> what does ......ss:2345:respawn:...........mean
[08:48] <Evanescence> Almehdi: what is the relation between sudo and do-release-upgrade ? i do not the do-release-upgrade command 's -s option, it says sandbox test ? what is this ?
[08:49] <Uhriventis> I'm not complaining so much, I love Linux.  But I had to switch to Ubuntu from openSuSE when going to a less "up to date" system. SuSE has a feature for this. I was wondering if Ubuntu did as well
[08:49] <chipmink> param/loadparm.c what config file would feed that?
[08:49] <no_face> bazhang i don't understand the manual
[08:49] <bazhang> Uhriventis, not that I've seen in the standard repos, a PPA did (3rd party iirc)
[08:49] <tr3nton> !skype
[08:49] <Uhriventis> PPA?
[08:49] <Milossh> hello. is there any clue on when's 64bit os going to be our primary goal?
[08:50] <bazhang> !ppa | Uhriventis
[08:50] <Almehdi> qin: opps... well "man apt-get" then ;)
[08:50] <A_J> bazhang, one more issue when i change resolution using this http://pastebin.com/ruCMteMT i get this http://lulzimg.com/i21/cc8167.png
[08:50] <oquidave> anybody?
[08:50] <phox_> hi! How do I change the default application for importing from my camera? I have 11.04.
[08:50] <Uhriventis> Oh okay
[08:50] <Uhriventis> Got'cha
[08:50] <bazhang> Milossh, actual support question?
[08:51] <Milossh> bazhang: there is one, but I'd rather not bug you.
[08:51] <Almehdi> Evanescence: write in terminal "man apt-get" the "-s" is for simulate..
[08:51] <Milossh> wrt os question, I'm just asking...
[08:51] <bullgard4> qin: Thank you for commenting.
[08:51] <bazhang> Milossh, random speculation much welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <Milossh> oh, didn't know that. thanks
[08:52] <Uhriventis> <- Send me to general Linux Chat
[08:52] <A_J> bazhang,  that happens only in non classic mode
[08:52] <phox_> Could anybody please help me? =) is stated my case earlier
[08:53] <rghose> problem with dhcp... half duplex mode in wimax network connection
[08:54] <Evanescence> Almehdi: yeah, simulate is similar with sandbox test without really write in systemdir
[08:55] <rghose> internet connection not working with my tikona wimax using dhcp... any help ?
[08:55] <Isz> is anyone else using miggi to chat on nokia e63
[08:55] <A_J> rghose,  tikona needs you to enter ip ?
[08:55] <no_face> for moving my home folder is this the right way to do it? rsync -aS /target_directory /destination_directory
[08:56] <A_J> meh
[08:56] <testi_> Can i set a bac
[08:57] <testi_> sorry, can i set background for non-X-terminals? (I have KMS enabled)
[08:57] <testi_> i mean a background picture
[08:57] <MethedMan> Almehdi: What I am trying to do is make it so when files are copied into a certain directory on "hard drive x" they are immediately pointed to "hard drive y".  meaning the files never reside on "hard drive x".
[08:57] <MethedMan> will rsync accomplish this?
[08:57] <magn3ts> MethedMan, so you just want to mount or symlink the directory
[08:58] <magn3ts> MethedMan, no rsync is for... syncing
[08:58] <VP> which is an analogus Open source Software in Ubuntu to CoralDraw in Windos?
[08:58] <VP> which is an analogus Open source Software in Ubuntu to CoralDraw in Windows?
[08:58]  * no_face face palms
[08:59] <Crash1hd> Anyone in here have knowledge of vmware bridged connection with xp host ubuntu guest unable to ping other machine names on my network
[09:00] <Almehdi> MethedMan: No, Rsync would not do that.. that would maybe require a easy bash script. I am not aware of any app doing that.
[09:00] <VP> which is an analogus Open source Software in Ubuntu to CoralDraw in Windows?
[09:00] <MethedMan> magn3ts: i think i want to make a symlink
[09:00] <magn3ts> MethedMan, I'll show you an example. h/o
[09:00] <no_face> VP, Inkscape
[09:01] <bazhang> !equivalents > VP
[09:01] <_Anomaly> Hi iAmerikan
[09:01] <iAmerikan> bazhang: nothing. D:
[09:01] <magn3ts> ~paste
[09:01] <iAmerikan> Oh sorry
[09:01] <magn3ts> !paste
[09:02] <iAmerikan> _Anomaly: as much as you know about your network issue
[09:02] <rghose> anyone can tell me about why I'm facing network issues with dhcp in half-duplex mode? I have the pcap files
[09:02] <_Anomaly> iAmerikan:  yeah?
[09:02] <angheloko> hello guys.. i'm about to do a dist-upgrade on a minimal install ubuntu... any drawbacks if a do dist-upgrade with no-install-recommends on it to keep the installation at a minimum?
[09:02] <_Anomaly> dhcp SUCKS
[09:03] <phox_> How do open and browse my camera? When I right click it it says something like "Dbus error"..
[09:03] <serj> hi
[09:04] <_Anomaly> angheloko:  are you running on very low system resources?
[09:04] <magn3ts> MethedMan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/607326/
[09:04] <_Anomaly> serj:  Hi
[09:04] <angheloko> dual core, 4GB ram, 80 GB HD
[09:05] <_Anomaly> why not just do a full install then?
[09:05] <angheloko> compaq presario @_Anomaly
[09:05] <_Anomaly> 11.04 with updates on
[09:05] <angheloko> i initially used the minimal install.. and.. tbh, i just use that machine as a home server
[09:05] <angheloko> i have ftp,ssh, sftp, nf, apache, mysql on it
[09:06] <iAmerikan> _Anomaly: Did you post about your IP stuff?
[09:06] <angheloko> just for experimentation and to act as a home server..
[09:06] <serj> I want to be able to minimize a window by clicking its icon on the launcher. Is this possible?
[09:06] <MethedMan> magn3ts: thanks.  taking a look at it right now
[09:07] <_Anomaly> iAmerikan:  no I didn't
[09:07] <_Anomaly> angheloko: experiment with 11.04 just as it is.  You have WAY more than enough system resources to take care of it
[09:07] <serj> Nvm.
[09:08] <Uhriventis> Uhg, the equalizer wont download from the regular packet manager. Is there a site I can direct download? I have tethered my phone for internet and it picks and choses what it wants to loads.
[09:08]  * _Anomaly has a problem getting either eth0 or wlan0 on the netwerk
[09:08] <_Anomaly> :-/
[09:08] <angheloko> @_Anomaly what would u suggest? i want it to be as minimal as possible - build ground-up or up-down?
[09:08] <MethedMan> magn3ts: that is what i am looking for but the linked folder still retains a copy of the file
[09:08] <magn3ts> MethedMan, no it doesn't
[09:08] <magn3ts> rm specialdir and there's nothing there.
[09:08] <Uhriventis> Or maybe someone send it to me?
[09:09] <magn3ts> MethedMan, it looks like it is because it's "symlink"ed
[09:09] <_Anomaly> angheloko:  your resources are vast and there's no reason to go minimal
[09:09] <Uhriventis> I'd be super greatly, awfully super happy and greatful
[09:09] <mykal> Herp derp, VLC won't full screen without shutting down computer after latest Nvidia update. Ideas?
[09:09] <magn3ts> MethedMan, in that case, that file would phsyically exist as 1/0s only on my external hard drive mounted at /media/temp
[09:09] <_Anomaly> if you already have Ubuntu on the system why even upgrade if your looking for minimal?
[09:09] <A_J> One issue when i change resolution using this http://pastebin.com/ruCMteMT i get this http://lulzimg.com/i21/cc8167.png, doesnt happen on Classic Mode
[09:09] <magn3ts> MethedMan, just like my /home/cole is on one hard drive, but it looks like it's on my main HD still.
[09:09] <VP>  no_face:Thanks!
[09:10] <magn3ts> well different reason, but similar effect.
[09:10] <MethedMan> magn3ts: can i access the files from both directories?
[09:10] <no_face> no problem VP enjoy... also try GIMP and Scribus
[09:10] <magn3ts> MethedMan, yes.
[09:10] <A_J> no_face, can you have a look at my issue
[09:10] <MethedMan> magn3ts: nice. thanks so much
[09:10] <magn3ts> MethedMan, fo sho.
[09:11] <no_face> A_J I am a noob
[09:11] <_Anomaly> no_face: for sum 1 without a face yer pretty popular :)
[09:11] <A_J> :(
[09:11] <magn3ts> A_J, does clicking and dragging to select the whole desktop fix it?
[09:11] <angheloko> @_Anomaly.. hmm.. true.. before i got my new laptop i was running full 10.04 on it.. but in any case, i just tried running dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends and i didn't get any packages.. so i guess it wont work
[09:11] <A_J> no magn3ts
[09:11] <magn3ts> I have lots of screen redraw problems in weird places including resizes.
[09:11] <magn3ts> A_J, is it frozen at that point? Does opening/closing the Unity drawer not help?
[09:12] <A_J> anything in that black area in unclickable
[09:12] <A_J> magn3ts, nop.. can it be cause i don't have a GFX card ?
[09:12] <no_face> i am currently running this command; rsync -aS /home /media/Storage/home once this is complete i need to edit my fstab to mount my sdb as /home right?!
[09:12] <_Anomaly> angheloko: I think it is funny.... you are trying to install new items but then tell it NOT to install anything
[09:12] <magn3ts> A_J, not sure;
[09:12] <mykal> sudo service lame chat stop
[09:13] <A_J> magn3ts, it works fine on classic mode, but not in the new 11.04 one
[09:13]  * _Anomaly kicks mykal..... sudo that
[09:13] <angheloko> @_Anomaly i thought if i run that it will just update/upgrade packages that are already installed and it won't install any extra package :?
[09:14] <_Anomaly> angheloko: try just running the update and make it tell you what it suggests then delete anything or uncheck anything you don't want
[09:14] <angheloko> @_Anomaly i
[09:14] <plustax> how do I run a .sh file?
[09:15] <qin> plustax: bash file.sh
[09:15] <no_face> HELP! i am currently running this command; rsync -aS /home /media/Storage/home once this is complete i need to edit my fstab to mount my sdb as /home right?!
[09:15] <no_face> run *.sh run
[09:15] <_Anomaly> running minimal packages is usually for when you have a old puter with limited resources.... you have WAY more resources then you'd ever use
[09:15] <angheloko> @_Anomaly ok thanks.. i'm just ran do-release-upgrade.. i'll build it from top-down if anything gets intalled that i don't want
[09:15] <plustax> I dont know the folder path qin it's in a zip file that I just downloaded.
[09:15] <A_J> !graphics
[09:16] <A_J> any1 can link to recommended gfx cards for linux
[09:16] <no_face> A_J any Nvidia card
[09:16] <_Anomaly> angheloko: thats your best option.  Like I said.  You have a puter that will handle anything you give it right now
[09:16] <A_J> no_face, Not ATI ?
[09:17] <qin> plustax: I guess you need to unzip it, chmod (make executable), and run it
[09:17] <plustax> qin when i click it the open with screen comes up
[09:17] <plustax> what can I type in there
[09:17] <no_face> A_J, check private chat
[09:17] <A_J> okie no_face
[09:18] <_Anomaly> anyone like werking with netwerking problems?
[09:18] <bazhang> _Anomaly, ask the question please
[09:18] <iAmerikan> _Anomaly: in huge channels like this, I suggest asking
[09:18] <iAmerikan> someone will help out
[09:18] <j3f|23y> #shdhsg
[09:19] <plustax> qin I ran the command now it says waiting for device
[09:19] <_Anomaly> bazhang: iAmerikan: ok thanx
[09:19] <qin> plustax: Gimmme linky to that zip, please.
[09:20] <_Anomaly> I can get a connection on both eth0 and wlan0 but I can't get on the net either way and eth0 causes a ip conflict with another machine I'm running
[09:20] <iAmerikan> o_o plustax
[09:21] <angheloko> @_Anomaly u have wicd installed or some other network manager?
[09:21] <iAmerikan> angheloko: he has default gnome network manager iirc
[09:22] <pdtpatrick_> has anyone installed gnome-3 on ubuntu 11.04 yet?
[09:22]  * _Anomaly has a pretty phunnie setup.... I get the net with a WiFi connect from another machine. It is a WiFi card in the machine with a external antenna
[09:22] <_Anomaly> then I have a nic that sends the signal to a hub and to other puters
[09:23] <_Anomaly> they are werking fine
[09:23] <_Anomaly> so I know I can get on the net without troubles since the other puters are werking
[09:23] <_Anomaly> I had SuSE up and running on the same box I put Ubuntu on
[09:23] <_Anomaly> so I know the connections can werk
[09:24] <r|a|k> hi
[09:25] <angheloko> @_Anomaly, firewall issue perhaps?
[09:25] <_Anomaly> angheloko: Netwerk Connections .... the basic Ubuntu netwerk manager
[09:25] <_Anomaly> nope not a firewall issue.  like I said... other puters are werking fine with the set up
[09:26] <_Anomaly> this says I have a connection
[09:26] <Renski> hello, im trying to create a new partition on fresh 2TB drive, but im getting the error message "You must set cylinders.".
[09:26] <_Anomaly> either with wlan0 or eth0
[09:26] <Renski> when using fdisk
[09:26] <Crash1hd> OK so if I add 192.168.2.100 machinename in host file in ubuntu and of course I can now ping it (but how can I set the ubuntu to ping them directly without having to add it to the host file)?
[09:27] <pfifo> Renski, change to dos partition type and create a new dos partition table
[09:27] <_Anomaly> Crash1hd: are you trying to crash one hard drive?
[09:27] <_Anomaly> lol
[09:27] <angheloko> @Crash1hd u need it in ur host file if u want to ping the machine by name fwik
[09:28] <Renski> pfifo: same error message
[09:28] <Crash1hd> angheloko, hmm there must be a way to do it nativly my other ubuntu install does it without needing that
[09:31] <pfifo> Renski, can you get into fdisk, or is it giving this error on startup?
[09:32] <Renski> pfifo: when I do a n or o, and when it start up (running it with fdisk sdb2)
[09:32] <TimmyT> I want to split a 200 MB file into 10 .tar archives and I don't want to do this by "split" command. Is there any capacity in "tar" command for splitting archives?
[09:32] <pfifo> Renski, start fdisk like this `fdisk /dev/sdb`
[09:32] <_Anomaly> :-/
[09:33] <cardiel> im compiling my custom kernel , but after i do make-kpkg clean, doesnt all settings disappear ? cause when i do make menuconfig after make-kpkg clean the settings is gone
[09:33] <_Anomaly> is there a way to tell Ubuntu that a certain IP is already taken and to choose another?
[09:33]  * _Anomaly says DHCP sucks
[09:34] <angheloko> @_Anomaly u have a strange setup... why do u want a static ip.. the easiest i can think of to reserve an ip is to configure ur router
[09:34] <pfifo> _Anomaly, static IPv4 addressing
[09:35]  * _Anomaly is getting the net from a wireless netwerk elsewhere
[09:35] <clakes> hey u-friends! is there a way to keep selecting until you tap on the trackpad (or click) again? à-la mac style that is
[09:36] <tiox> Hmmm? You mean, pressing tab to go between menus and buttons?
[09:36] <MethedMan> how do i make a symlink to a hard drive on another computer on my network?
[09:36] <_Anomaly> pfifo: I tried static and got a connection but still couldn't ping google
[09:36] <pfifo> _Anomaly, sounds like you forgot gateway/DNS info
[09:36] <clakes> tiox, you talking to me? =)
[09:37] <tiox> Yep.
[09:37] <thr> mthedman : mount it with nfs then just mount it where you want it
[09:37] <qin> MethedMan: sshfs (and link to directory where you mount is)
[09:37] <clakes> oh, ok.. no it has nothing to do with keyboard
[09:37] <thr> * meant to come out as nfs
[09:37] <_Anomaly> pfifo: nope I know not to miss anything and I checked and rechecked all ip #'s
[09:37] <clakes> i mean... can you keep selectin (text i.e.) until you click or tap again?
[09:37] <pdtpatrick_> Curious -- why did ubuntu go with unity instead of gnome 3?
[09:37] <thr> qin use nfs no need for sshfs on local network = slow
[09:37] <tiox> Might as well ask a question: I am looking to reboot Ubuntu into a "Test mode" of sorts, where I can boot with everything I have already installed, but make the session non-permanent.
[09:37] <MethedMan> qin: awesome thanks.  what about rsync?  someone was talking about that earlier.
[09:38] <_Anomaly> pfifo: I have had SuSE running on the same netwerk and other machines plugged into my system
[09:38] <thr> mehed man use nfs
[09:38] <Uhriventis> I think Unity is a lot better.
[09:38] <angheloko> @MethedMan rsync would be a good options for backing up
[09:38] <thr> on local network much better
[09:38] <no_face> Unity uses compiz as it's backend
[09:38] <tiox> Is there a way I can boot into Ubuntu so that no future changes are saved on the system?
[09:38] <Renski> pfifo: cheated and used Disk Utility program in the end
[09:38] <Uhriventis> But that's just my opinion. I have always been a KDE fan and it's nice they got away from GNOME.
[09:38] <tiox> no_face: Also, you can disable the Unity plugin to disable Unity altogether.
[09:39] <qin> thr: You right.
[09:39] <no_face> tiox, i removed unity by reinstalling 10.4
[09:39] <prashant__> maco, r u there
[09:39] <tiox> lawl
[09:39] <prashant__> abhijeet_,  r u there
[09:39] <qin> MethedMan: Me no rsync
[09:39] <portablejim> Where are the settings for gdm stored (e.g. the login background)?
[09:39] <tiox> That would not fix my problem with Avant WIndow Navigator, I think...
[09:39] <pfifo> _Anomaly, what exactly is the problem? DHCP is giving you an address that is in use? Theres only 3 things that could cause that, Duplicate MAC addresses, DHCP Leases being too short and Someone assigning a Static IP that is in the DHCP lease range
[09:39] <no_face> tiox, anychance you know mike silkworm
[09:39] <tiox> no_face: Nope.
[09:40] <Tyrnis> plop all
[09:40] <prashant__> can anyone tell me the best mp3 media player for ubuntu 11.04
[09:40] <no_face> tiox, he says lawl
[09:40] <tiox> portablejim: /usr/share/gdm
[09:40]  * angheloko is waiting for my home server to finish upgrading to natty
[09:40] <qin> prashant__: mocp
[09:40] <no_face> was a wild guess
[09:40] <pfifo> Renski, gparted is usually my solution to unusal behaviour in fdisk
[09:40] <angheloko> banshee!
[09:40] <_Anomaly> pfifo: good list of questions.... I can't figure it out either and I am a netwerk speciallist with WinBlows
[09:40] <prashant__> qin, it support playlists
[09:40] <tiox> Put the control center or appearances dialog in /autostart/LoginWindow, log off, make changes, log back in.
[09:40] <_Anomaly> angheloko: good for you buddy
[09:41] <MethedMan> qin: how would i make a symlink with sshfs
[09:41] <angheloko> @_Anomaly, thanks.. now at 76%... afraid i can't help u much cos u have quite a unique situation there
[09:41] <prashant__> qin, no software found at ubuntu software center
[09:42] <_Anomaly> pfifo: I will eventually finger this out..... I was just seeing if it was a simple mistake that I was making
[09:42] <user1> is there any ssh shell where i can type like i am typing now as a remote connection to the server. most shells when sshed are difficult to type and idle out if kept inactive and some are ridiculous
[09:42] <_Anomaly> of course I don't have the usual set up as most do
[09:42] <user1> also suggest some on windows
[09:42] <tiox> Additionally, portablejim, you can have CompizConfig Settings Manager show up at login, configure some keyboard shortcuts via the Commands plugin and and have keystrokes to open programs at the login screen. Useful for Firefox, where if someone asks "Can I barrow your PC?", you just switch user, load Firefox and they're using it right at the login screen, no need for a secondary "Guest" account.
[09:43] <pfifo> _Anomaly, a static address should work, if its not working then theres something more than a duplicate IP involved
[09:43] <_Anomaly> angheloko: thanx buddy.  Yeah I like my setup.  I pay for nuttin and no one can figure out how I did it
[09:43] <_Anomaly> lol
[09:43] <llutz> user1: check ClientAliveInterval on sshd
[09:43] <portablejim> tiox, how about the actual settings (not where I can put a launcher for a program to change the settings)
[09:43] <_Anomaly> pfifo: ok thank you.  I can't finger this out atm but I will
[09:43] <tiox> portablejim: Not entirely sure. /var/lib has some settings, maybe.
[09:44] <tiox> But I think /usr/share/gdm is where most setings for login are stored.
[09:44] <pfifo> _Anomaly, and at that, a dup IP will work intermittently
[09:45] <_Anomaly> pfifo: very true
[09:45] <_Anomaly> I already looked at the MACs and they aren't even close to each other
[09:45] <tiox> Oh, for the noobs, <Ctrl>+H shows hidden files.
[09:45] <xylonik> Hello, I would like to know how to remove the username within the terminal. Any help is appreciated.
[09:45] <pfifo> !noob | xylonik
[09:45] <_Anomaly> and I have looked to see if MAC spoofing is causing an error and it wasn't close
[09:45] <llutz> xylonik: change PS1 in your ~/.bashrc
[09:46] <llutz> pfifo: try again with correct nick :)
[09:46] <tiox> Wow, pfifo, you're a klut. :P
[09:46] <tiox> klutzz*
[09:47] <tiox> Grrr, my keyboard sucks.
[09:47] <pfifo> haha, darn scrolling
[09:47] <hellyeah> hey
[09:47] <_Anomaly> lol
[09:47] <llutz> xylonik: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/bash-prompt-escape-sequences.html
[09:47] <hellyeah> i have sony vaio vpcf136fx b computer
[09:47] <hellyeah> when i am in the dark place my keyboard is lightened
[09:48] <hellyeah> is it possible to use this feature in ubuntu
[09:48]  * pfifo changes font size to 16
[09:48] <xylonik> Thank you llutz, very much appreciated brother.
[09:49] <_Anomaly> pfifo: Thank you for your help
[09:49] <pfifo> _Anomaly, good luck
[09:49] <_Anomaly> hehehe I always need it
[09:49] <Evanescence> Are there some good automount tool to auto mount windows disk at startup ?
[09:50] <pfifo> Evanescence, yeah, /etc/fstab
[09:50] <Renski> some comments in fstab are saying I should use UUIDs to identify my paritions instead of its file, how did I Get the uuid?
[09:50] <pfifo> Renski, `blkid`
[09:50] <angheloko> /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:50] <jhw> Renski: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[09:51] <Evanescence> pfifo: by the way, what is that , ubuntu auto mount widnows disk when you click it in Gnome .
[09:52] <pfifo> Evanescence, /etc/fstab is the configuration file that tells `mountall` what to mount, if you want something mounted at boot time, thats the place todo it
[09:52] <pfifo> see if ubottu has anything to say
[09:52] <pfifo> !fstab
[09:52] <angheloko> @Evanescence nautilus' volume manager does that for u.. but like pfifo said, edit fstab for mount at startup
[09:53] <Evanescence> angheloko: pfifo thanks
[09:53] <Peddy> I have two monitors, how can I move the unity dock to the left one?
[09:53] <pfifo> Evanescence, no problem
[09:53] <Evanescence> angheloko: so that nautilus volume manager will finish all setting for mount ?
[09:54] <_Anomaly> wb no face
[09:55] <no_face> thank you, the rsync worked well
[09:55] <_Anomaly> looks like it
[09:55] <tiox> Peddy: Don't know. Fellow oracles, is there a gconf hack he can use to change where Unity appears on his monitor setup?
[09:55] <pupuser9a5750> I had a perfectly fine working Ubuntu 10.10 install.  I did the online upgraded to 11.04, and ran into problems.  My mouse would not work, my video would only allow setting to 640x480, and other stupid stuff.  In the end, I decided to re-install 10.10.  During the install my wireless was detected, and in fact even used, but after first boot, it no longer works at all, and I don't even see the Enable Wireless on network mangler
[09:55] <no_face> i made a few mistakes like moving the whole folder of home to a folder called home, but spotted that before i rebooted =)
[09:55] <angheloko> @Evanescence if u click on any of your win drives, yes, it'll mount it for you. but if you don't click it, it will still show at in your list of available drives
[09:56] <Peddy> tiox, in older gnome I could simply drag gnome-panel to another window :/ but I can't now.
[09:56] <no_face> some settings were not copied over, but that was due to my lack of understanding
[09:56] <tiox> pupuser9a5750: For the mouse issue, I'm getting weirdness too. Sometimes I get "Dead zones" where the mouse fails to register clicking, and one time, I got this odd thing with a wireless mouse where just plugging it back in fixed the problem.
[09:56] <no_face> but it's a clean install so no worries there
[09:56] <_Anomaly> oh..... here's an easy question for anyone...... where can I find Unity on my desktop?  I hadn't played with it long enough to find that item yet
[09:57] <Evanescence> angheloko: I want to know what are those setting in nautilus volume manager and apply setting in fstab
[09:57] <pfifo> pupuser9a5750, Ive heard over 9000 good comments about wicd for wireless, perhaps you should `sudo apt-get install wicd && sudo apt-get purge network-manager`
[09:57] <tiox> Peddy: Give up, then, until someone figures out how to hack Unity, because I had no success moving stuff around either.
[09:57] <pupuser9a5750> I don't have any network without wireless
[09:57] <no_face> _anomaly http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/change-settings-ubuntu-unity-compizconfig-settings-manager/
[09:57] <tiox> Best bet: Log off, change session to Ubuntu Classic, log back in and enjoy your toolbars.
[09:57] <tiox> Want a dock? Use Docky.
[09:57] <_Anomaly> no_face: thanx buddy
[09:58] <pfifo> pupuser9a5750, deb files to a usb stick then
[09:58] <_Anomaly> pfifo: think I should also install wicd?
[09:58] <pfifo> pupuser9a5750, or chroot from the livecd
[09:58] <no_face> _Anomaly, compiz is Unity
[09:58] <Renski> does anyone like unity?
[09:58] <no_face> NO!
[09:58] <jinleileiking> lf
[09:58] <iAmerikan> lol'd^
[09:58] <tiox> Renski: Sure! Lots of people do.
[09:58] <pfifo> _Anomaly, no in your case i would uninstall both and configure by hand
[09:58] <pupuser9a5750> What's really frustrating is that Puppy Linux 4.3.1 detects and uses my wireless fine.  In fact that's what I'm using now.
[09:58] <_Anomaly> no_face: just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and hadn't seen Unity yet
[09:59] <tiox> Unfortunately, you'll meet none of them here.
[09:59] <Renski> have they formed a cult and gone into hiding?
[09:59] <phox_> renski: I do! I like how it disappears, and focus is on one window. Uses alot of my big screen.
[09:59] <coz_> Renski,  Unity ,, in all ubuntu related channels,, has the been  topic of  many disatisfied users
[09:59] <no_face> _Anomaly, make backup install 10.4 lol
[09:59] <pupuser9a5750> but my GF doesn't like Puppy, she wants Ubuntu
[09:59] <Peddy> tiox, it's sad that someone has to 'hack' open source software.
[09:59] <iAmerikan> _Anomaly: I think you're using it iirc
[09:59] <tiox> phox_: That's the purpose of Unity, to take up as much screen as possible. I myself dislike it.
[09:59] <_Anomaly> pfifo: I configured by hand earlier today..... lol she was really cute too
[09:59] <angheloko> @Evanescence Nautilus will not edit the fstab for you.. it will only temporarily mount the drive for you for ur current session
[10:00] <tiox> It's a god damn tablet interface! Canonical did bad IMO.
[10:00]  * no_face agrees with tiox
[10:00] <Renski> I was thinking it might be good for my notebook
[10:00]  * pfifo is using gnome3 after a debootstrap install, unity can bite me
[10:01]  * Peddy feels kinda bad for liking Unity
[10:01] <tiox> Aside from that burts of anger, I am doing fine with Mint Menu from webupd8.org. DockbarX and the classic configuration of gnome-panel.
[10:01] <angheloko> @Evanescence here's a nice link from psychocats - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[10:01] <tiox> burst*
[10:01] <no_face> burts is better imo
[10:01] <Evanescence> angheloko: thanks so much
[10:03] <Peddy> is it possible to remove the panel on one of my monitors, if I have two?
[10:03] <coz_> tiox,  yes classic gnome is essentially fine ,, but that will not be avaiable in future releases,, as far as I am aware
[10:03] <coz_> Peddy,  unity or classic gnome?
[10:03] <tiox> If the developer of Avant WIndow Navigator and his peers get their heads out of Mark's anus and get back to work on making a compatible set of packages for Avant WIndow Navigator trunk, I'd be a happy man.
[10:04] <pfifo> coz_, someone will make a gnome2 ppa
[10:04] <Peddy> coz_, unity
[10:04] <coz_> Peddy,   probably not then,,  the extra panel on the secondary monitor is  one answer to dual monitor support for global menu,, as far as I can tell
[10:04] <tiox> I once brought up in off-topic, maube the classic Gnome can be a compiz plugin too.
[10:05] <mang0> I need to put an ISO onto a CD I have. Is there a built in cd burner? 11.04.
[10:05] <tiox> Sure, it'd be some sort of kludgy hack, but at least it's an easy on/off solution for people to look into.
[10:05] <Peddy> coz_, oh, I hadn't thought of that, you're right. thanks
[10:05] <no_face> AFK, writting my blog on how to move home folder, bye peeps
[10:05] <angheloko> @mang0 u can try brasero
[10:05] <coz_> tiox,  thats doubtful,,  if compiz attemtps that  then it would just as easy to make compiz DE  instead
[10:05] <mang0> angheloko: I need to be able to boot the Cd...
[10:05] <tiox> Who said it had to be the Compiz team>?
[10:05] <mang0> so can brasero do that?#
[10:06] <pfifo> mand0, yes
[10:06] <coz_> tiox,    gnome is a DE  ,, much more complex than a plugin
[10:06] <angheloko> @mang0 alternatively try wodim
[10:06] <_Anomaly> Thanx for the fun
[10:06] <_Anomaly> nite all
[10:06] <tiox> No no, I know that. But I was talking about the interface. Toolbars and plugins.
[10:06] <mang0> I think brasero is gonna be okay
[10:06] <mang0> angheloko: ^
[10:07] <tiox> That's it, nothing more needs to be implemented IMO. But then again my head must be up my butt.
[10:07] <tiox> Sippin' on too much fo my asbestos-laden kool-aid.
[10:07] <zymbium> Which key allows me to scroll down to the current line within the terminal?
[10:07] <tiox> Page down, maybe?
[10:08]  * tiox never tried that
[10:08] <qin> zymbium: Shift-PgDw
[10:08] <tiox> Oh, cool. I learn something new every day.
[10:08] <mang0> lol, what a waste. 700mb CD for a 7.8mb iso file.
[10:08] <mang0> brb
[10:09] <qin> zymbium: It do not work in byobu, screen, tmux, etc
[10:09] <zymbium> Also, how do I shift the current line to the top of the terminal?
[10:09] <qin> zymbium: Ctrl-l
[10:09] <tiox> What's the importance of byobu anyway?
[10:10] <zymbium> Thank you qin
[10:10] <pupuser9a5750> So, after searching the InterTubes, I am very frustrated with Ubuntu's wireless support.  It seems far more difficult than it should be
[10:10] <tiox> I don't get it, personally. There shouldn't be xterm, gnome-terminal and byobu-terminal all in the same OS.
[10:10] <dcg> has anyone noticed strange issues with grub, grub-update, grub.cfg recenty?
[10:10] <pfifo> Cna you revers the fill direction of a terminal?
[10:10] <pupuser9a5750> I mean, it detected at install time FFS
[10:11] <qin> tiox: I have 10 differeny emulators (just for heck of it).
[10:11] <pupuser9a5750> Any suggestions ?
[10:11] <Guest46403> dylan
[10:11] <tiox> qin: Go away.
[10:11] <Guest46403> i am from china
[10:11] <FCGreg> pupuser9a5750: what exactly is the problem?  i don't understand
[10:11] <pfifo> pupuser9a5750, install the correct driver
[10:12] <pupuser9a5750> Wireless is not being enabled - even though it was detected and used during install
[10:12] <Guest46403> great
[10:12] <Guest46403> great lubuntu
[10:12] <zymbium> Yes there are strange issues with grub on wubi, I had to partition Ubuntu with new install because of those reboot issues.
[10:12] <pupuser9a5750> And no option on NetworkMangler to enable it.
[10:12] <FCGreg> pupuser9a5750: pfifo is probably right.  probably a driver that did not get installed.  do you know what kind of wireless hardware is in your system?
[10:13] <FCGreg> pupuser9a5750: have you run the Install Proprietary Drivers tool yet?
[10:13] <pupuser9a5750> No  - I can do a LSPCI though, right ?
[10:13] <guest__> oihgawhvt
[10:13] <guest__> uwoa h;
[10:13] <guest__> se tgeay nz
[10:13]  * angheloko finished upgrading to 11.04. Now off to see if everything's still fine.
[10:13] <guest__> spam
[10:13] <FloodBot1> guest__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <dcg> pupuser9a5750: have you tried running system > administration > additional drivers?
[10:13] <guest__>  wg MZ|ja
[10:13] <guest__>  
[10:14] <dcg> angheloko: before you go
[10:14] <angheloko> great... just a blinking cursor after restarting
[10:14] <tiox> angheloko: Oh, the horror...
[10:14] <pupuser9a5750> No, what's that for ?
[10:14] <angheloko> what's worse is its orange
[10:14] <tiox> Erm, puppy, dude... it's to help you install non-free drivers on your system.
[10:14] <dcg> angheloko: how long does it sit blinking for?
[10:14] <pupuser9a5750> Yeah, but does it require network access to do so ?
[10:14] <FCGreg> pupuser9a5750: that checks to see if your hardware (wireless or otherwise) has all of the needed drivers installed
[10:15] <tiox> Yep. So plug in an ethernet cable.
[10:15] <angheloko> @dcg almost 2 now.. ima restart this thing
[10:15] <tiox> Use a hard line.
[10:15] <pupuser9a5750> Don't have one
[10:15] <pupuser9a5750> believe it or not
[10:15] <tiox> O_O
[10:15] <gaelfx> I've noticed when downloading something in FF or Chromium that even if the actual download rate is 0kb/s, it still displays the download rate it had right before it stopped downloading, why is that?
[10:15] <mkdir> hi everybody,give me a kvm irc please
[10:15] <dcg> pupuser9a5750: yes it will need network access to install things with, but I think it will tell you if something is needed without network
[10:15] <gaelfx> or occasionally, it seems to do a countdown to 0 rather than telling me directly that it's (obviously) not downloading at all
[10:15] <tiox> mkdir: Google is your friend3. Use it.
[10:15] <FCGreg> pupuser9a5750: yeah, you need to get one and run that tool.  then check back if it's still not working
[10:15] <tiox> asdftypo
[10:16] <pupuser9a5750> OK, I'll give that a try.
[10:16] <pupuser9a5750> Strange though that it gets used during install with no trouble
[10:16] <tiox> Very odd.
[10:16] <dcg> angheloko: what do you get before the flashing cursor.....do you see a grub screen, or is the flashing cursor in place of the grub screen?
[10:16] <FCGreg> pupuser9a5750: that is odd, but it's still my best guess for you.  one way or another, I bet the right driver is not loading
[10:16] <tiox> Okies, I'm snoozing before the sun shines. Good night everybody!
[10:16] <pupuser9a5750> OK, I'm off for a reboot into Ubuntu.  I'll be back
[10:17] <pupuser9a5750> Thanks
[10:18] <angheloko> @dcg... i was busy reading in the IRC so i didn't noticed.. when i turned to look.. its just a blinking cursor.. i did a restart and now it's just a blinking cursor again.. ok ima restart again and focus on the screen and see if that helps :))
[10:18] <magepsycho> how to increase the screen lock period?
[10:19] <dcg> magepsycho: in gnome?
[10:19] <magepsycho> yup
[10:19] <magepsycho> 10.10 version
[10:19] <dcg> magepsycho: system > preferences > screensaver
[10:20] <dcg> angheloko: how did the monitored reboot go?
[10:20] <angheloko> @dcg.. still the blinking cursor but now with a purple bg
[10:20] <magepsycho> thanks dcg
[10:20] <dcg> magepsycho: you're welcome
[10:20] <angheloko> i hit alt+f1 to get a terminal
[10:21] <angheloko> and ran startx from there
[10:21] <magepsycho> how to switch user
[10:21] <angheloko> looks ok.. so far
[10:21] <dcg> angheloko: sounds like xorg is not auto configing for some reason
[10:21] <magepsycho> i don't  want to use sudo evertime using terminal command
[10:21] <portablejim> I found the settings for the background. They are in /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults.
[10:21] <magepsycho> i want to switch to root user
[10:21] <DirtyDawg> that reminds me, to get into console with alt+F1, how do you bring it back to the desktop GUI?
[10:21] <FCGreg> magepsycho: there is no root user per-se on Ubuntu
[10:22] <angheloko> @dcg.. i upgraded from a minimal install.. i don't have any login manager.. i have fluxbox though but it's not set to autostart
[10:22] <angheloko> so i guess that explains
[10:22] <dcg> magepsycho: you should stick to using sudo, there should only be a very few commands you need to run as root. it should NEVER be used for normal use
[10:22] <coz_> magepsycho,  in terminal   sudo -i
[10:22] <magepsycho> su .. command is for what
[10:22] <dcg> DirtyDawg: hit alt-F7
[10:22] <FCGreg> magepsycho: (it is there, of course, but not setup for normal shell access like on other systems)
[10:22] <DirtyDawg> ahh k thx dcg :)
[10:23] <magepsycho> oh
[10:23] <magepsycho> so i can't login as root ?
[10:23] <guest__> dupadupadupa
[10:23] <exs> hi, i have a problem. if i open mousepad and close it after it takes more time to close a program then normal. what could be the solution for it?
[10:23] <angheloko> @megapsycho.. no u cant.. root is disabled.. u can assume the role of root though for a session
[10:23] <FCGreg> magepsycho: no, but if you type "sudo -l" in a terminal it will give you a login shell for root (of sorts)
[10:23] <dcg> coz_: it is not a good idea to encourage new users to use root like that, sudo is far safer
[10:24] <qin> magepsycho: From "man su": su - change user ID or...
[10:25] <FCGreg> magepsycho: i strongly recommend the sudo command when you MUST run a superuser command.  there are MANY good reasons why Ubuntu is setup this way
[10:25] <angheloko> natty doesn't seem to like fluxbox... im getting some weird behavior
[10:25] <magepsycho> FCGreg .. when i type sudo -l then it gave the following : http://paste.ubuntu.com/607351/
[10:25] <dcg> angheloko: yeah, current ubuntu uses upstart and other new tech that may mean it is better to do a full install from scratch, as an upgrade from a mini install may fail
[10:26] <FCGreg> magepsycho: and is caches your credentials so you don't have to keep typing your password over and over
[10:26] <FCGreg> magepsycho: Yes, that is normal.  what commands are you trying to run?
[10:27] <itfriend>    
[10:27] <magepsycho> guys main problem is that.. /var/www/ folder is for my php projects and i every time have to give 777 to the project folder when i tried to use in editor
[10:27] <magepsycho> how to get rid of this.. i though .. running as root there wont be any issues of file permissions
[10:27] <angheloko> @megapsycho add urself to www-data group?
[10:27] <mladen> hey guys, i cant activate animation effects.. i activated animationaddons, added compizconfig-settings-manager, and plugins, but can't  see the animation working?
[10:27] <angheloko> or edit ur apache conf
[10:28] <angheloko> or add in ur site in the sites-available
[10:28] <magepsycho> i am totally a newbie.. can you help me angheloko
[10:28] <FCGreg> magepsycho: yes, do what angheloko said (or something similar).  DO NOT do what you are trying to do
[10:28] <mongy> angheloko, yeah, better off changing documentroot in apache config
[10:29] <magepsycho> guys i am confused .. suggest one best approach .. i am newbie
[10:29] <mladen> hey what should i do to see animations?
[10:29] <FCGreg> magepsycho: it is hard to tell you exactly what to do without knowing your exact setup.  does your PHP program write / modify files in your /var/www folder?
[10:29] <angheloko> @megapsycho what i do when i have a web project is create the workspace in my home dir and add in a conf file in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[10:29] <coz_> magepsycho,   if you have to access  a directory,, it is easy to  use   sudo nautilus,,,  do what you need then close out
[10:31] <magepsycho> actually FCGreg ..  in /var/www/ i create php projects say project1/ project2/
[10:31] <magepsycho> and i use editor: eclipse pdt for it
[10:31] <lolstar_> how do i keep this /etc/update-motd.d/* from running as root at every login
[10:31] <angheloko> that way i have full control of my files.. alternatively, grant rwx access to www-data group... can u ls -l ur /var/www?
[10:31] <dcg> coz_: once again that is not a good solution as it can leave files, especially new files with root privliges in a web accessable directory. the correct solution is as angheloko ond others suggested, add yourself to the www-data group or keep the files in your home dir and alter apache config
[10:33] <dcg> having incorrect permissions on files in webservers is one of the major security holes that are often exploited by the bad guys
[10:33] <FCGreg> magepsycho: keeping your current web config the best option would be to add yourself to the www-data group on your system
[10:33] <FCGreg> dcg: very true
[10:37] <dcg> If I can jump on my soapbox once more,....everyone that offers advice somewhere like this (especially here where newbies often ask questions) should be verry carefull to NOT suggest anything that may compromise security. hence recommending that sudo only be used when absolutely necessary, and keeping permissions untouched in non user directories etc. The last thing a new user wants is to "tweek" there system into a state where it gets hacked. If 
[10:37] <Peddy> what is the process name for the unity panel/universal menu bar thing? it crashed and I want to reopen it
[10:37] <dcg> FCGreg: what system are you currently running?
[10:38] <szal> dcg: "where it gets hacked. If" <- was there supposed to be something more?
[10:38] <soreau> Peddy: unity-panel-service
[10:39] <soreau> Peddy: try unity --replace
[10:39] <dcg> Peddy: I honestly don't know, I dislike the new Unity interface, the early one used on Netbook remix was good, but last couple of versions sucked IMHO
[10:39] <FCGreg> dcg: agreed.  I am running Ubuntu and Xubuntu 11.04 on standalone machines and in a virtual machine on a Mac (on the Mac right now)
[10:39] <Peddy> thanks soreau, that did the trick. Now, to sort out window decorations randomly disappearing...
[10:39] <dcg> szal: hacked. If this happens the linux community may well loose a convert.
[10:40] <szal> dcg: thx..  smells like Irssi w/o a line-wrapper script ^^
[10:40] <Peddy> dcg, interesting, I think it could be quite usable when the bugs are ironed out. And things such as dual-monitors and fullscreen video are handled better.
[10:40] <Goliath> i choosed another monitor from my ati control panel. but it says i have to restart system to take effect. Does this  mean restart x? How do i do it without rebooting? (cause the changes i make are lost)
[10:40] <dcg> FCGreg: would you mind stepping next door to #sbts I would like to get you to check a few things for me, I am looking at some grub issues on a remote machine and don't have  a local 11.04 install to look at
[10:41] <andrew_46> FCGreg: What software on Mac for virtual machines?
[10:41] <soreau> Goliath: Try sys>prefs>monitors
[10:41] <soreau> Goliath: or gnome-display-properties
[10:41] <Peddy> soreau, where has the whole sys> menu gone with unity? is it no longer in use?
[10:41] <dcg> szal: yes irssi but never had issues with others loosing bits of messages....I have had clients that chop messages short though
[10:41] <FCGreg> dcg: andrew_46: I am running current Parallels on a Macbook Pro running a clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 atm
[10:41] <Goliath> soreau: i am on kubuntu cant find that
[10:41] <FCGreg> I'll pop over there
[10:42] <droidgirl> hi, I have just installed ubuntu after not using it for a few years, how do I get the window control back to the right hand side?
[10:42] <Goliath> soreau: we have krandr
[10:42] <Goliath> here
[10:42] <soreau> Peddy: You can find it in classic ubuntu mode or click on the power button in the panel and select system preferences IIRC
[10:42] <Peddy> soreau, oh, 'control center' is pretty slick, thanks.
[10:43] <soreau> Goliath: Oh right, I dont know how kde does it but there should be a way to do it without ati control panel
[10:43] <Peddy> does anyone know how to change the 'title' font of universal menubar?
[10:43] <Goliath> soreau: btw do we have disper in ubuntu?
[10:43] <Goliath> its similar
[10:43] <soreau> Goliath: In fact, if you dont explicitly need fglrx, you should remove it so you can use the default opem source radeon driver
[10:44] <droidgirl> how can I make the mximise, minimise close buttons go back to the right hand side?
[10:44] <coz_> droidgirl,  open gconf-editor
[10:44] <droidgirl> ok
[10:44] <coz_> droidgirl,  maneauver to    apps/metacity
[10:45] <coz_> droidgirl,  then  general  and in the right hand list look for  "button_layout"
[10:45] <elementz> hi all. i would like to `rsync` to a fat32 parition. what do i need to consider? is rsync my best option here? i do not need to retain any permissions. but keeping the timestamps would be nice
[10:45] <coz_> droidgirl,  all you need to do is move the "close"  to the end  and switch the  "  and ,
[10:46] <coz_> droidgirl,   it should look like this    :minimize,maximize,close
[10:46] <droidgirl> ahh ok thanks will try that
[10:46] <droidgirl> woohoo, done, thank you very much coz_  :)
[10:47] <coz_> droidgirl,  no problme
[10:47] <no_face> what should i do to my ubuntu now?!
[10:47] <coz_> no_face,  what have you already done?
[10:48] <no_face> moved the home folder from one drive to another... bored... need something else to do =D
[10:48] <coz_> no_face,  I see,,, Unity or classic?
[10:48] <qin> no_face: run gopher, or minecraft server
[10:48] <no_face> classic, 10.4... didn't like 11.4
[10:49] <coz_> no_face,  ok well you can tweak things or install some cool applications,, kupfer,, cairo dock ,, etc etc
[10:49] <raven> how to install firefox 4 to ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[10:49] <nicknotregistred> hello, can someone tell me what's the best "driver" to use on Ubuntu 11.04, for an ATI graphic card?
[10:50] <coz_> nicknotregistred,  depends on the card I believe,, but soreau   may be the best one to know that answer
[10:50] <no_face> i wanna tweek stuff, got all i need installed allready
[10:50] <nicknotregistred> my card is onboard (laptop) ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M], coz_
[10:50] <no_face> i remember (back in the day) i used fedora 4, you could make hard disks work faster
[10:51] <nicknotregistred> i have the default drivers, didn't try any
[10:51] <dcg> no_face: why not go to 11.04 change login session to give you the traditional gnome interface and start tweeking from there?
[10:51] <coz_> no_face,  well not being on your system,, and not knowing your tastes,, I think ,, in this case,, even though I am not saying this to push you away ,,, google is your friend in this case :)
[10:52] <coz_> nicknotregistred,  either ask soreau   ask in #radeon channel perhaps
[10:52] <beecarr> Hi guys can someone tell me what printer is suitable for ubuntu linux? I have had no luck in connecting to my existing old printer
[10:52] <no_face> i guess you're right... i'm clogging the airwaves... do you know somewhere i can irc chat about anything linux
[10:52] <xiong> beecarr, I may be able to help.
[10:52] <nakaori> im using an hp deskjet 5700 series
[10:52] <FCGreg> beecarr: what kind of printer is it?
[10:52] <nicknotregistred> coz_, ill try the radeon channel, 'cos it seems that soreau is not here, thank you
[10:52] <coz_> beecarr,  most HP  and  epson printers work  let me see if I can find capatibility chargt
[10:52] <xiong> beecarr, What have you got now?
[10:53] <coz_> nicknotregistred,  he is here but may be busy
[10:53] <raven> how to install firefox 4 to ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[10:53] <beecarr> its a combi dell printer with scanner
[10:53] <FCGreg> beecarr: I've had good success with the HP 5000 series and higher- both directly connected and connected via network print hub
[10:53] <FCGreg> beecarr: those tend to be problematic because they require special drivers from Dell IIRC
[10:54] <no_face> raven, i think you either compile yourself or get the repos from mozilla
[10:54] <xiong> beecarr, You want to turn the unit over if necessary and get the exact model number. Then, go to Dell's site and download the driver.
[10:54] <no_face> raven, if you didn't know that then don't install =P
[10:55] <coz_> beecarr,   http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/databaseintro
[10:55] <xiong> I had the same issue with a Canon all-in-one. Install the manufacturer's driver. Restart the machine.
[10:55] <beecarr> Many thanks guys will try. byeeeeeeee
[11:02] <eleruin> Does anyone know how to configure cups-pdf on ubuntu 10.10 ? It only prints blank pdf pages.
[11:03] <eleruin> Howto's on the internet are bit outdated i guess
[11:03] <dcg> eleruin: how did you install cups-pdf? that may help us
[11:03] <eleruin> apt-get install cups-pdf
[11:04] <dcg> eleruin: give me a moment to check something
[11:05] <dcg> eleruin: do you have aptitude installed?
[11:05] <eleruin> yes
[11:05] <Milossh> hello, I suddenly experience input sound problems
[11:05] <Milossh> can someone help me identify it/ fix it?
[11:06] <dcg> if you run aptitude and search for cups-pdf, then press enter on it. this will open more info about that package. please check that all depends and suggests are installed.
[11:06] <suffer8zine> :P
[11:07] <angheloko> @dcg looks like i'll have to do a reinstall :/ how i loved my min install then..
[11:08] <Milossh> sound used to work when I reinstalled Ubuntu 64bit, and everything was ok. All of a sudden, my input doesn't work
[11:08] <magepsycho> guys can i add 10 lines of commands as one?
[11:08] <Milossh> I see the card, and it says it has 2 channels, one input and one output, but I don't see the changes when speaking into mic
[11:09] <syn-ack> magepsycho, yes.
[11:09] <angheloko> @megapsycho use && at the end of each command or & to run te command in bg
[11:09] <syn-ack> magepsycho, look at &&
[11:09] <syn-ack> && is safer since it will wait for an exit status of 0 on the previous command
[11:11] <eleruin> dependencies are : cups, cups-client, ghostscript, libc6, libpaper-utils. I got all installed.
[11:11]  * angheloko will have to restore from backup after upgrading to natty... and thinks "if i do a min install of natty and run tar xvf mysystembackup, will it work?"
[11:12] <test> Hi
[11:13] <nslus> angheloko : it depends on what you will put in your backup
[11:14] <angheloko> @nslus i backuped up everything from / except - --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys
[11:14] <guddu> anyone can tell me how to open shared pc on ubuntu
[11:14] <matthias_> if i want to make a custom keyboard layout, is there an easy way to do it or do have to fiddle with configuration files?
[11:14] <matthias_> (i just want to change caps lock to backspace and the right alt to another ctrl)
[11:15] <guddu> hi friend will you tell me how to open shared pc in ubuntu
[11:16] <angheloko> @guddu it depends on the meaning of open? do u want to remote control it or just access a shared dir?
[11:19] <splisp> hi all
[11:20] <mithran> hi all, im trying to configure webmin on ubuntu server 10.04. but im not able to access the webmin page
[11:20] <dcg> eleruin: that is strange then, perhaps you need to try printing to pdf from some other programs, in case it is a compatibility issue. for that matter it could be a good idea to try viewing from different programs/computers too
[11:21] <matthias_> there's actually a menu with lots of predefined options in the keyboard ettings of ubuntu. making caps lock a backspace was one of them, but i didnt find anything to make the right alt key a ctrl :(
[11:21] <angheloko> time to go... bye all! maybe i'll do a min install of natty and just restore the .conf files that i need... need to fuel up with caffeine, uyeah!
[11:23] <guddu> anyone tell me  how to access the shared folder from ubuntu in same network
[11:24] <eleruin> Ok, i'm sorry, cups-pdf works with another program. The problem is maybe compatibility with GIMP or with A1 paper size ?
[11:25] <selinuxium> hi all, just bought a hdmi cable for laptop to show on a large screen... under natty I can't find the application to switch between screens... could someone point me in the right direction..
[11:26] <mithran> what is the name of the metpackage to install kde from the repositories for 10.04?
[11:26] <robin0800> selinuxium, I think its monitors
[11:27] <dcg> eleruin: strange I have used it from gimp before, but you may have hit a bug related to storing massive images in a PDF.
[11:28] <stalx> hello
[11:28] <no_face> hi
[11:28] <dcg> eleruin: PDF's are not really designed to hold giant binary lumps, while they can do so they were really designed to allow primarily textual information to be represented, images was an extension
[11:29] <dcg> eleruin: try creating a smaller image and printing that from gimp.
[11:29] <mithran> hi all, what is the metapackage for the xserver (the xserver listing in aptitude has no description listing is that the metpackage)?
[11:31] <a1219> Why I can't install VLC 1.1.9 on my Ubuntu 11.04?
[11:33] <a1219> linuks iz grate!
[11:37] <mpc> a1219: more info? what does or doesnt it do?
[11:38] <a1219> I just can't install it on my 10.10!
[11:38] <a1219> No way of getting the package, synaptic shows 1.1.4 is the newest!
[11:39] <michele> Indicator for facebook notifications?????? (not gwibber)
[11:39] <mithran> hi all, I am not able to use the internet, can i use the Ubuntu 10.04 desktop to install Xserver for the 10.04 server?
[11:39] <mithran> please help
[11:40] <oCean> !offline | mithran
[11:41] <mithran> ubottu !APTonCD
[11:42] <eleruin> dcl : I've got the same problem with A4 and A5
[11:44] <magepsycho> guys my ubuntu get hanged.. how to end task?
[11:44] <magepsycho> like in windows
[11:44] <dcg> eleruin: almost didn't spot that message, I am dcg not dcl !!!! try a small image, but create it from scratch and just use a couple of colours. don't shrink something that you already have.
[11:44] <rileypv> ctrl+alt+f1 and then killall programname
[11:47] <mpc> a1219: try aptitude.. im running 11.04 and it shows 1.1.9 avail.
[11:48] <treadstone> Hi somebody can help ? I must install system again... with better security partition options, : 60GB - / 20GB, /var 3GB, /tmp 3GB, /home rest ?
[11:49] <eleruin> dcg : I'm sorry. I tried to print an image that's entirely black and I still get the same blank page. Same issue with the default "Print to File".
[11:49] <treadstone> how big must be /var and /tmp ?
[11:50] <BlouBlou> treadstone: why would you want to make a partition for /tmp?
[11:51] <dcg> eleruin: that is strange, I wonder if it is not actually a problem with cups-pdf but a missing dependancy for gimp
[11:51] <treadstone> BlouBlou: for security rule
[11:52] <a1219> Nope, I get 1.1.4, even with aptitude!
[11:52] <dcg> treadstone: for security, I would suggest maybe mounting /tmp as tmpfs that way it only exists in ram.  having said that you do need enough ram to cater for your tmp needs
[11:53] <dcg> a1219: you may need to run "sudo apt-get update" from a commandline
[11:54] <a1219> what then?
[11:55] <yuyonghong> I'm from china
[11:55] <mithran> i put in my ubuntudesktop cd and ran 'apt-cdrom add', it worked without errors, how can i force apt to resolve dependencies from the cdrom, because i get a forbidden error when it uses the other enteries in the sources.list
[11:55] <Isz> hi
[11:56] <mithran> oCean, you there?
[11:56] <thebwt> mithran: do you just want to disable everything else?
[11:56] <dcg> a1219: then you can run "sudo aptitude" and search for VLC and you should see the correct version. if you don't let us know and I will get you to check some other things
[11:56] <treadstone> dcg how many ram I need for tmpfs?
[11:57] <dcg> treadstone: that depends on what your system is being used for, and what is going to end up in /tmp
[11:57] <thebwt> mithran: you there?
[11:57] <mithran> thebwt, i was thinking that, ok ill do that..thanks...
[11:57] <thebwt> mithran: yea just pop opent he sources gui, and uncheck the others. Then do an update.
[11:58] <mithran> ok doing that
[11:58] <thebwt> mithran: I wouldn't remove them, just uncheck so you canf igure out why it's forbbiden when you feel like it.
[11:58] <dcg> treadstone: a starting point would be to have lots fo the things that the machine should be doing running, the run command "sudo du -sh /tmp" this will tell you how much space in currently in use for /tmp
[11:58] <magepsycho_> guys ctrl + alt + f1 locked me
[11:58] <magepsycho_> i was unable to get out to that full size black screen
[11:58] <pascal__> hi i have a question: i just installed my cannon Pixma MP190 printer but when i try to print nothing happens, does anyone know what i can do about that? everything is connected right
[11:58] <magepsycho_> and i have to shutdown forcefully
[11:58] <dcg> treadstone: then I would at least double that just for the tmpfs
[11:58] <dcg> even then it may not be enough
[11:58] <Isz> Does anyone else use mirgi on phone to chat
[11:59] <Isz> I mean mirggi
[12:00] <a1219> No, the version is 1.1.4.
[12:00] <pascal__> can someone help me?
[12:00] <pascal__> ???
[12:01] <moes> Ubuntu 10.04...Is there a way to check if grub2 is installed to MBR ?
[12:02] <dcg> a1219: ok, so the next step is to check what repositories you have enabled...run the following "grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list" and put the result in pastebin
[12:02] <pascal__> u mean 11.04?
[12:02] <treadstone> ok thx dcg
[12:04] <pascal__> does anyone know how i can get my cannon pixma mp190 working?
[12:05] <rene_> Hej der
[12:05] <Samo502> hey ubuntians
[12:05] <rene_> nogen der ved noget om ntp
[12:06] <mithran> after removing the entries in the sources.list, when i did aptitude update, i get IGN before the entries, does that mean its ignoring them or something, can I not use the cd to install software?
[12:07] <rene_> anybody know about ntp
[12:07] <a1219> Here are the results: http://pastebin.com/8wKdh4ZH
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> !ask| rene_
[12:07] <thebwt> mithran: wait, what did you do exactly?
[12:07] <Wooga> hello, where do i find module snd-pcm-oss in ubuntu 11?
[12:07] <mithran> oCean, thebwt u guys there?
[12:08] <magepsycho_> guys cntrl+alt+f1 is for what.. one of the guy told me to use that command to kill the process
[12:08] <magepsycho_> and i was locked in that black screen
[12:08] <magepsycho_> since i didn't know thow to get out of that black screen
[12:08] <magepsycho_> :)
[12:08] <Wooga> meganerd: press alt+F7
[12:08] <mike-w> ctrl+alt+f7
[12:08] <mithran> i backed up the sources.list, edited the sources.list and commented all the entries, then ran apt-cdrom add, and then aptitude update
[12:08] <rene_> my modem is sligtly off time  i cant set it myself Does a minute or 3 mean anything
[12:08] <magepsycho_> mike-w .. was that for me?
[12:08] <mike-w> yes
[12:09] <thebwt> mithran: is this on a server install or desktop?
[12:09] <mike-w> does it work?
[12:09] <magepsycho_> oh.. i had to forcefully shutoff the pc
[12:09] <mithran> im using the desktop cd to install GUI on server
[12:09] <Overlord-sirus> Is there a random comp question thing here?
[12:09] <mithran> same arch
[12:09] <dcg> a1219: looking now
[12:09] <pascal__> does anyone know how to get an canon pixma mp190 working on ubuntu11.04
[12:09] <thebwt> mithran: okay, and you're using the cd because the repos do not work correctly?
[12:10] <mithran> *trying to use desktopcd to install GUI on server
[12:10] <mike-w> what irc clients are you use?
[12:10] <mike-w> i am using a addon of opera
[12:10] <magepsycho_> guys one important question: in my update manager i can see updates
[12:10] <mithran> yes, some keyword is blocked by the admin and they are failinbg with 403 forbidden error
[12:10] <Overlord-sirus> Or can someone here help me with the calibration of a touch screen?
[12:10] <magepsycho_> is it better to make updates (with checked rows) instead of uprade to newer version on the top ...
[12:10] <a1219> I have a firend using Ubuntu 11.04, and he always says: "All hail Mark Shuttleworth, the Ubergod of Ubuntu Linux."
[12:11]  * pascal__ sighs
[12:11] <Wooga> anyone? where can i find kernel module snd-pcm-oss.ko in ubunt 11.04?
[12:11] <dcg> a1219: looks like all th erepos you should need are there, try searching on http://packages.ubuntu.com.au
[12:11] <magepsycho_> i don't want to upgrade to 11.04 but want to upgrades the softwares/applications
[12:11] <mike-w> but it nearly crashed just now because of the vast number of rooms on this server
 my modem is sligtly off time  i cant set it myself Does a minute or 3 mean anything
[12:11] <thebwt> mithran: reading and looking stuff up
[12:11] <mithran> ok me too
[12:12] <dcg> Wooga: you probably won't get an answer on that, oss has been depriciated for a very long time, I don't think current kernels even support it anymore
[12:13] <thebwt> mithran: okay and everything in sources is commented out for sure?
[12:13] <Wooga> dcg: so how do i use aoss with oss applications?
[12:13] <mike-w> to update,try sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:13] <BlouBlou> mike-w: try xchat (gui) or irssi (if you want cli)
[12:13] <Zoltan_D> hello
[12:13] <Overlord-sirus> Can someone help me with the calibration and activation of a touch screen?  I have a driver but I need help installing it.
[12:13] <mike-w> yeah,i've got Xchat
[12:14] <dcg> Wooga: there are a number of good aoss howto's on the web. and in the documentaion for the aoss package, from memory /usr/share/doc/aoss/
[12:14] <benoit_> connect irc.sport-scene.net
[12:15] <dcg> Wooga: the best thing to do is contact the person that maintains the app and request that they update the app to use alsa or pulse instead
[12:15] <Zoltan_D> can somebody help me with an ubuntu bug? do you mayne know something about ubuntu randomly logging off? i've searched the net for solutions, but I got no luck...
[12:15] <Wooga> dcg: this is not possible
[12:15] <a1219> There is no VLC 1.1.9, only 1.1.4. I took the .txt, did a search for VLC and 1.1.9, but no results.
[12:16] <dcg> Wooga: that would be unusual, unless it is an ancient app, in which case it may not work on a modern system due to library issues anyway.
[12:16] <kingofswords> hi whats tramissions filename?
[12:16] <Wooga> dcg: yes, it is anicent app, game port of SoF1
[12:16] <keith105> hey guys, could somebody please help me in translating a natd command into iptables rules? im following a howto but stuck
[12:17] <dcg> a1219: if that is the case you may be able to find a private repository or ppa to use, check the vlc webpage they may have a link to ubuntu or debian packages
[12:17] <Shadowww|RDP> ChrisTX, how do you find RDP compared to VNC?
[12:18] <ChrisTX> VNC is somewhat laggy, I'm trying to use X11 Remoting where possible
[12:18] <dcg> Wooga: if that is the case you really probably need to run the app on a linux version from the same eara as the game was compiled on.
[12:18] <Shadowww|RDP> ChrisTX, same experience here - it's slow even over 1 gigabit LAN :/
[12:19] <Shadowww|RDP> while RDP works well even via GPRS
[12:19] <qin> Wooga: Solders of Fortune for linux or I have something wrong?
[12:19] <dcg> ChrisTX: I hope you are using ssh tunnels with X11 remoting, otherwise it is not very safe (secure)
[12:19] <ChrisTX> dcg, I am, couldnt figure how to use xauth
[12:19] <a1219> They don't have packages, only a bz2
[12:19] <ChrisTX> on LAN in doesnt matter I guess
[12:20] <mithran> thebwt, ya everything in sources.list is commented out..
[12:20] <dcg> ChrisTX: Xauth only handles some of the authentication issues, it doesn't stop all of your information being transferred as plain text (including passwords)
[12:21] <dcg> ChrisTX: even on a lan security matters
[12:21] <ChrisTX> dcg, I know, but in wired LAN, why would I need that?
[12:21] <thebwt> mithran: kk then when it IGN's what is it hitting? do you have ppa's or something thats not in the sources/list file?
[12:21] <marija> eh
[12:21] <llutz_> a1219: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc2 && sudo apt-get update
[12:22] <dcg> ChrisTX: Shadowww|RDP have you guys ever looked at xpra? it may be just the berries
[12:22] <qin> a1219: there is PPA: https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc
[12:22] <llutz_> a1219: use of 3rd-party repos and ppa on your own risk
[12:22] <Shadowww|RDP> dcg, any different from Xvfb?
[12:22] <qin> a1219: 1.1.7 latest in fast search
[12:23] <mithran> ive got only 2 entries '1 is lucid/main main Translation_en_IN' and '2 is lucid/restricted main Translation_en_IN' both of them are IGN'ed
[12:23] <dcg> ChrisTX: even on a wired lan it is possible for any connected device to run software to monitor all network traffic, in which case any sensitive information could be captured, especially if there is a microsoft OS on the network
[12:23] <cmarenburg> Hello all i upgraded to 11.04 andthe wireless drivers well not work. The ones that worked in 10.10 (and 10.04 had both installed at one time or antother) do not work now.
[12:23] <dcg> Shadowww|RDP: yes some major benefits, and much simpler to use, there is also a management gui too
[12:23] <Shadowww|RDP> dcg, I thought Microsoft OSes have proper security for remote administration protocols such as RDP?
[12:23] <mithran> thebwt, i sent something
[12:23] <venezat-1> HOLA
[12:24] <ChrisTX> dcg, Im using a single RJ45 plug to connect the two computers
[12:24] <thebwt> mithran: I don't understand
[12:24] <ChrisTX> nothing that could sniff there
[12:24] <venezat-1> ALGUIEN SABE COMO PUEDO INSTALAR CANAIMA EDUCATIVO EN UBUNTU 10.04
[12:24] <qin> !es | venezat-1
[12:25] <mithran> am i supposed to put the 'apt-cdrom' lines in the sources.list? cos i was just running them from the terminal
[12:25] <venezat-1> OK GRACIAS
[12:25] <cmarenburg> has any one had there wireless stop working after the upgrade?
[12:25] <dcg> Shadowww|RDP: the security issues have nothing to do with the microsoft rdp side, but the act of using X11 remote protocol which is not secured AT ALL as anything sent over it can be captured from anywhere onthe network
[12:25] <mithran> when I did 'aptitude update', there were only 2 hits one was lucid main and the other was lucid/restricted
[12:25] <mithran> thebwt,
[12:25] <Shadowww|RDP> cmarenburg, how did you managed to get wireless working on linux in first place?
[12:26] <dcg> ChrisTX: so there is no adsl modem or anything else connected to either computer? and you can guarantee that there is no malicious software logging network traffic on either machine?
[12:26] <cmarenburg> What did you mean? Ubuntu detected on first boot
[12:27] <thebwt> mithran: can you paste the output of 'apt-get update' to paste.ubuntu.com?
[12:28] <mithran> thebwt, ya sure, just a sec
[12:28] <qin> !wifi | Shadowww|RDP
[12:28] <mike-w> no
[12:28] <qin> Shadowww|RDP: Sorry
[12:28] <mike-w> i can see the content
[12:28] <ChrisTX> dcg, the link between the computers is not externall accessible, one pc has two network cards, one to the internet, one to the other pc.. as for malware, if either PC was infected, it could log my keystrokes anyway. still that's not the point, I simply want to setup xauth for the configuration
[12:29] <mike-w> there are some cats,right?
[12:29] <ChrisTX> also, both computers are linux so what are the chances of either having malware?
[12:29] <Shadowww|RDP> ChrisTX, pretty huge, remember the gnome-look case
[12:30] <ChrisTX> I dont have anything coming from outside the repos installed
[12:30] <dcg> ChrisTX: in the past I have used Xauth, but recent versions of ubuntu have made it almost impossible, certainly not possible at all with ubuntu's version of GDM
[12:31] <a1219> Hello
[12:31] <ChrisTX> what do you mean impossible?
[12:31] <Shadowww|RDP> ChrisTX, how about unrealircd? :D
[12:31] <ChrisTX> not having that installed either
[12:31] <dcg> ChrisTX: it is potentially possible for malware to be installed just by visiting a web page or viewing a nasty image.
[12:31] <Shadowww|RDP> dcg, I don't recall him telling about a presence of a proper routed uplink
[12:32] <mithran> thebwt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/607383/
[12:32] <ChrisTX> dcg, I thought Linux malware was pretty much non-existant?
[12:32] <dcg> ChrisTX: regardless of all that, what I ment by impossible was that the version of GDM installed with ubuntu is non-standard, and has all remote auth features disabled
[12:32] <llutz_> ChrisTX: urban legend
[12:32] <thebwt> mithran: that looks fine actually. So what happens when you try to install something?
[12:33] <mithran> thebwt, you are right actually, i get results for some apt seraches
[12:33] <fr00g> Is it possible to have a Unity-style appmenu while using Ubuntu Classic?
[12:33] <LjL> fr00g: yes
[12:33] <LjL> fr00g: install the appmenu indicator
[12:33] <dcg> ChrisTX: if you do a web search for linux virus/malware you will find (amongst the hits that say it is impossible) a number of lists of virus
[12:33] <fr00g> LjL, how?
[12:33] <fr00g> You mena indicator-appmenu?
[12:33] <LjL> !info indicator-appmenu | fr00g
[12:33] <ChrisTX> yes wow 300 or so
[12:33] <LjL> fr00g: yes
[12:33] <ChrisTX> none of them using any current exploits
[12:34] <fr00g> No, I have, but the problem is, I only get the menus and not the window title
[12:34] <mithran> thebwt, but i cant find anything related to xserver or gnome, i really want to get the desktop installed...
[12:34] <dcg> ChrisTX: virus's and malware that have been seen in the past, just non of them have made a significant splahs
[12:34] <LjL> fr00g: not sure what you mean
[12:34] <Milossh> Hello. I see the sound card, and it says it has 2 channels, one input and one output, but mic is not working and level bar doesn't indicate that too. It's not muted, fwiw
[12:34] <Milossh> would someone please help
[12:34] <LjL> fr00g: the window title on the top bar? not sure you can do that
[12:34] <ChrisTX> the only two cases of malware I know of, were that gnome look and that unrealircd incident
[12:34] <fr00g> LjL, in Unity, you have the window title, and when you mouse over it, the menu appears
[12:35] <fr00g> LjL, I can't get that, I only have menus
[12:35] <thebwt> mithran: is there a package called 'ubuntu-desktop' ?
[12:35] <LjL> fr00g: hmm try seeing if the window picker panel applet or something else will show you a window title (but it won't be the same as Unity still). i'm on KDE right now so can't try.
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam > Andrejce
[12:37] <Shadowww|RDP> !nickspam > Shadowww|RDP
[12:37] <mithran> thebwt, nope, there are also no entries for x11 server, desktop,
[12:37] <Milossh> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b6ad251d761e4a78193adacb5b4bc9eb956ff223
[12:37] <mithran> thebwt, let me do a find on the cd to see if there is a package like that
[12:38] <a1219> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc2 ERROR 404
[12:38] <Friar> hi, I'm having some problems with wine and installing the original starcraft game. I am running 11.04. When I start the install process it keeps asking me to insert disk 2 and click continue, but it only has 1 disk for starcraft...unless it means to put in the brood war cd....
[12:39] <kwtm> !nickspam >kwtm
[12:39] <avishek> hello
[12:40] <Friar> hi, I'm having some problems with wine and installing the original starcraft game. I am running 11.04. When I start the install process it keeps asking me to insert disk 2 and click continue, but it only has 1 disk for starcraft...unless it means to put in the brood war cd....
[12:42] <Pumpkin-> Friar: have you tried the other CD ?
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam > blazho
[12:43] <Friar> yes. When I swap out the CDs it doesn't even recognize that I've switched cd's. when I click on continue it doesn't do anything.
[12:44] <mithran> thebwt, the cd has like 10 .deb files, so i have no idea what to do, any help?
[12:44] <teoman99> ***
[12:44] <qin> Friar: /j #winehq (propably better help there)
[12:44] <emcho> a
[12:44] <Friar> qin, thanks...i'm over there, but it seems a bit slow this morning....thought I'd give it a try over here too.
[12:45] <thebwt> mithran: none, I'm as lost as you are. Googleing more about using apt cds
[12:45] <blazhko> e
[12:45] <blazhko> how are you :?
[12:45] <atlef> Friar, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=149
[12:45] <qin> Friar: Ok, if you have enough space, mount second cd from iso.
[12:46] <Sterist> what's the terminal command to check current IP address?
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | blazho
[12:46] <bazhang> Sterist, ifconfig
[12:46] <Friar> Sterist, ifconfig
[12:47] <Sterist> thankies :)
[12:47] <blazho> sorry
[12:47] <blazho> wont happen
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> blazho, No prob.
[12:48] <Sterist> we meet again, sidewinder1 (>_<)
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> Sterist, Good Morning.
[12:48] <blazho> i'm new at this :)
[12:49] <Sidewinder1> blazho, It's OK. :-)
[12:49] <thebwt> mithran: my guess is that the install cd doesn't use the .debs and thus isn't a useful 'repo'. So the way to do what you're trying to do will require you to use aptoncd or get the internet repos working.
[12:50] <djr013> Why does jockey-gtk report my driver as activated but unused?
[12:51] <qin> djr013: Did you make upgrade or clean install?
[12:51] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | asdfsa
[12:52] <djr013> qin: Upgrade. I think the problem is preventing Unity.
[12:52] <moes> How do I check to assure grub2 is installed to MBR of Ubuntu 10.04
[12:52] <qin> djr013: Remove driver, and reboot and make sure that open source driver is working.
[12:52] <qin> djr013: then run jockey
[12:53] <djr013> qin: Alright, thanks, will try.
[12:54] <llutz_> moes: while using 10.04: sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[12:55] <llutz_> moes: theres no real working check-method, maybe just rebooting and comparing the menu with 10.04s grub.cfg
[12:56] <llutz_> moes: you could dump the mbr and check using "strings" for "Grub" but that won't tell you WHAT grub it contains.
[12:58] <yoshie> Need program for vent , cant find any programs that work please help
[12:58] <thebwt> yoshie: for vent? as in ventrillo?
[12:58] <yoshie> thebwt: yes correct
[12:59] <moes> llutz, update-grub and menu and grub.cfg are the same
[12:59] <thebwt> yoshie: specifically you are trying to connect to a vent server
[13:00] <ShpanskaSerija> hi
[13:00] <thebwt> yoshie: if that is the case, then you'll need to run ventrill through wine. See http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832
[13:01] <mateusz> * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (93.152.160.101) port 8001...
[13:01] <mateusz> * Connected. Now logging in...
[13:01] <mateusz> * *** Looking up your hostname...
[13:01] <mateusz> * *** Checking Ident
[13:01] <FloodBot1> mateusz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <mateusz> * *** Found your hostname
[13:01] <mateusz>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[13:02] <BlouBlou> mateusz: What are you trying to do?
[13:02] <qin> mateusz: Please go to spam to #ubuntu-pl
[13:02] <jiltdil> how to install a game in wine
[13:03] <sagiG> yoshie: you might want to type "Connect to Ventrillo Servers on Linux using mangler" in youtube, maybe that'll help you out
[13:03] <jiltdil> i want to play windows game on linux how to do that?
[13:03] <BlouBlou> jiltdil: Do it by wine
[13:03] <bazhang> jiltdil, check the appdb to see if it'll owrk first
[13:03] <bazhang> !appdb > jiltdil
[13:04] <bazhang> jiltdil, for help with particular apps , /join #winehq
[13:04] <jiltdil> bazhang:thanks
[13:05] <martijn_dekker> Hey folks, I seem to have a graphics problem.. and #nvidia isn't quick to help.
[13:05] <dsathe> ?
[13:05] <dsathe> martijn_dekker:
[13:05] <dsathe> wats the issue ?
[13:05] <martijn_dekker> Some games will report FPS numbers in the thousands while only updating the screen 3 times per seccond
[13:05] <dsathe> O.o
[13:05] <martijn_dekker> Minecraft does it in its menus but not in the 3D portions
[13:05] <mithran> ubottu, !APTonCD
[13:06] <martijn_dekker> The Ogre samples browser also does it on some samples but not on others..
[13:06] <mithran> ubottu, !offline
[13:06] <bazhang> mithran, /msg ubottu please
[13:06] <mithran> ok sry
[13:06] <martijn_dekker> Sauerbraten works just fine at the 200 fps cap
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> !nl| martijn_dekker
[13:07] <martijn_dekker> But the Ogre sample with 2 little lights rotating around an Ogre head is one that always messes up for me. The cursor will also move at the same speed as the window
[13:07] <martijn_dekker> I actually feel more comfortable talking in English, MonkeyDust, but thanks a lot
[13:07] <a1219> what should i do?
[13:07] <dsn> take a look at my bootchart, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/861/nattynatty201105143.png/ why is init idling for 10 sec?, this is not normal.
[13:07] <martijn_dekker> Also, more people here that could help out.
[13:08] <a1219> what should i dp?
[13:08] <a1219> do?
[13:08] <bazhang> a1219, about what
[13:09] <BlouBlou> I'm using an intel celeron (single core, 32 bits), I want to change my generic kernel, what should I use?
[13:09] <BlouBlou> any ppa or web to download (precompiled) it?
[13:09] <bazhang> BlouBlou, how much ram
[13:09] <martijn_dekker> Anyway, dsathe.. I tried changing my graphics driver (proprietary nVidia) for a newer version.. no change.
[13:09] <BlouBlou> bazhang: 1GB
[13:09] <bazhang> BlouBlou, why need to change it
[13:09] <Blaze_Boy> i have ubuntu 11.04 on a Dell inspiron 1545, installed xvidcap to record desktop with sound, sound is not there i use /dev/dsp, i use the internal mic what is the device i can use ?
[13:10] <martijn_dekker> But changing some of the graphics options in the Ogre samples browser while a sample is running will either cause it to work properly all of a sudden.. or crash to desktop
[13:10] <BlouBlou> bazhang: becuse nvidia driver fails, and in all sites I checked, says that it's a kernel problem, only happens with this one
[13:10] <BlouBlou> bazhang: same with wifi n
[13:10] <mithran> hi all, is there a way to generate a download script for packages from a tool on the command line?
[13:10] <bazhang> !clone > mithran
[13:11] <martijn_dekker> BlouBlou, did you mean to say that to me? You mentioned bazhang instead
[13:11] <magepsycho_> I used DroidSans font
[13:11] <magepsycho_> looks kool
[13:11] <bazhang> martijn_dekker, different issue
[13:12] <martijn_dekker> Ah, okay. Nvm then.
[13:12] <metroid1> hi, i am trying to run unity but i when i do my window manager crashes and it says: Error: Couldn't load plugin 'ccp'.  what do i do?
[13:12] <Blaze_Boy> i have ubuntu 11.04 on a Dell inspiron 1545, installed xvidcap to record desktop with sound, sound is not there i use /dev/dsp, i use the internal mic what is the device i can use ?
[13:12] <BlouBlou> bazhang: then, it's there any other kernel I can install?
[13:12] <bazhang> BlouBlou, you could check the latest PPA for mainline kernel I suppose, be aware its completely unsupported
[13:13] <mithran> bazhang, how can i download the packages from a windows machine?
[13:13] <bazhang> metroid1, some ccsm plugin perhaps?
[13:13] <BlouBlou> bazhang: anyways, if kernel fails, just select another one and unistall it, right? there isn't a problem with it
[13:13] <bazhang> mithran, how many packages are we talking about
[13:14] <no_face> hey guys, i've got a real problem... just installed the ati drivers from the amd website and now i don't have anything in my xorg.conf what do i do?!
[13:14] <metroid1> bazhang: is there some a tutorial somewhere for setting up unity properly?
[13:14] <muneeb> i had /home on different partition.. after reinstalling Natty, all items on Desktop are gone. but Music, Downloads some other folders are intact. is it the default behavior ?
[13:14] <dsn> both my desktop and laptop have a 10 sec delay in booting where init just sits idle, it didn't do this in 10.04. Anyone know how to fix it?
[13:15] <bazhang> metroid1, not that I know of, if your card supports it, and you have the drivers, then it'll run
[13:15] <mithran> bazhang, 2 meta packages, 'xserver-xorg' and 'kde-full'
[13:15] <bazhang> mithran, those metapackages will pull in a ton of others
[13:15] <martijn_dekker> Anyway.. is there a chance that my graphics will be alright again if I somehow uninstall my proprietary drivers, or update my kernel with ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa ?
[13:15] <mithran> ok, but i need all of them
[13:16] <mithran> bazhang, i dont have a gui
[13:16] <sporedi> how do i setup a administrative passwd
[13:16] <bazhang> mithran, presumably from packages.ubuntu.com but that seems a huge task
[13:16] <cdavis> Can I make anacron watch my personal crontab as well as the crontabs in /etc/ ?
[13:16] <bazhang> mithran, aptoncd would be easier
[13:16] <qin> sporedi: sudo passwrd <your username>
[13:16] <bazhang> sporedi, when you install, its the sudo password
[13:17] <bazhang> !aptoncd | mithran
[13:17] <a1219> install vlc 1.1.9 on u 10.10 mm
[13:17] <bazhang> mithran, your windows computer has no gui?
[13:17] <qin> cdavis: sudo crontab -e (for root jobs)
[13:17] <bazhang> a1219, why do you need it
[13:17] <sporedi> bazhang: yes i can use that in terminal but when i try to install some package it ask me to enter administrative passwd
[13:18] <muneeb> i had /home on different partition.. after reinstalling Natty, all items on Desktop are gone. but Music, Downloads some other folders are intact. is it the default behavior ?
[13:18] <no_face> anyone able to help me rebuild my xorg.conf
[13:18] <bazhang> sporedi, then type the sudo password
[13:18] <mithran> bazhang, that one has, the ubuntu server does not have one
[13:18] <bazhang> mithran, you want to clone a server? why not just get the server installer cd
[13:18] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone tell me how to name the other part of code name - Narwhal, in my presentation (Natty is name of animal), thanks!!
[13:19] <a1219> It is my favourite Media Player...
[13:19] <bazhang> a1219, that number I mean..
[13:19] <metroid1> how do i change the default compiz theme?
[13:19] <martijn_dekker> Narwhal is an animal. Natty is a descriptor, I think.
[13:19] <mithran> i have the cd, but it does not have gui packages, and i cant use the internet to get them
[13:19] <mithran> bazhang,
[13:19] <a1219> It is the newest version!
[13:19] <BlouBlou> bazhang: can you answer my last question pls? :P it's just for security reasons; how to change grub2-wait-time before autoboot ubuntu?
[13:19] <bazhang> jodlajodla, narwhal is the second part, the creature
[13:19] <no_face> Natty Narwhal
[13:19] <sporedi> i have to enter passwd in gui ,i have intalled bootup manager when i want to run to it ask for administrative passwd
[13:19] <dcg> no_face: the easiest way is just to delete it, xorg will normally work fine without one
[13:20] <a1219> lololololololol... The chat is very active!
[13:20] <jodlajodla> martijn_dekker and bazhang, thanks! :)
[13:20] <no_face> dcg; if i reboot will it still work?
[13:20] <bazhang> BlouBlou, edit the grub timeout?
[13:20] <BlouBlou> bazhang: right
[13:20] <sporedi> in terminal i am able to use sudo xxxxxx
[13:20] <dcg> BlouBlou: in recent ubuntu /etc/default/grub
[13:20] <bazhang> sporedi, and the gui too
[13:20] <dcg> no_face: yes it should
[13:20] <sporedi> ok
[13:21] <no_face> dcg: why can i not test to see if my ati driver install works
[13:21] <bazhang> sporedi, if it asks for it, of course
[13:21] <a1219> so how do i install it?
[13:21] <bazhang> a1219, its not supported, just use the one in the repos
[13:21] <dr3mro> is there a ppa for quicklists ??
[13:21] <BlouBlou> dcg: and what part of that file should I change? I want, for example, 10 seconds
[13:21] <sporedi> ok  let me try
[13:21] <bazhang> dr3mro, check the ppa search
[13:21] <no_face> dcg: i can't even run sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[13:21] <a1219> Do you know a third party repo? Because the muench on doesn't work for me.
[13:22] <bazhang> a1219, not supported= you find it
[13:22] <dcg> no_face: I don't know as I don't use ati at all, I prefer nvidia for many reasons
[13:22] <oCean> a1219: do you really require the updated version?
[13:22] <bazhang> !latest | a1219
[13:22] <mcurran> anyone know of any nice icon themes for gnome, (desktop icons/folders, etc)?
[13:22] <no_face> dcg: can you pull my hair out for me as i am running out of hands
[13:22] <bazhang> mcurran, check gnome-look
[13:23] <a1219> I need it!
[13:23] <bazhang> a1219, then stop asking for it here.
[13:23] <dcg> BlouBlou: I think there should be a man page that covers what options are available, if not a quick search on the web should turn something up. also don't forget to check /usr/share/doc/grub*
[13:24] <sporedi> bazhang: sorry there is only option for passwd if i type any other word that box take it as a passwd
[13:24] <bazhang> sporedi, what box
[13:25] <dcg> no_face: normally I would not be manually configuring video drivers these days. you should start with no xorg.conf file, then reboot. once logged in go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers and install from there
[13:25] <sporedi> bootup manager
[13:26] <sporedi> i want to control boot up process
[13:26] <no_face> dcg: i downloaded the drivers from AMD
[13:26] <bazhang> sporedi, installed from where
[13:26] <_Abe_> I can run the xubuntu live environment from my usb stick just fine, but when I try to install, the installer just sits there.. Same thing if I choose to install @ boot time without going in to the live environment. I get the first question about what language, click on next/forward and bam... nothing happens :-/
[13:26] <_Abe_> anyone else had this problem?
[13:27] <bazhang> _Abe_, try #xubuntu
[13:27] <dcg> no_face: start off by installing from the ubuntu gui, if that doesn't work then consider installing what you downloaded.
[13:27] <no_face> Any ATI people here
[13:27] <_Abe_> bazhang: same thing with Ubuntu
[13:27] <sporedi> installed from internet ,http://www.ubuntugeek.com/boot-up-manager-bum-graphical-runlevel-editor.html
[13:27] <bazhang> no_face, install from repos not ati site, as dcg suggests
[13:27] <no_face> dcg, that is what i have done, but i removed the driver first
[13:27] <dcg> _Abe_: what hardware are you truing to install on
[13:28] <_Abe_> dcg: Acer Aspire One 532h
[13:28] <no_face> the driver in the repo's are... dull
[13:28] <sporedi> when i click on bootup manager it ask for a passwd
[13:28] <dcg> ok what cpu (pentium II etc) how much ram, and what size hdd
[13:29] <pupuser9a5750> I have run 'Additional Drivers' and the only suggestion it makes is the nVidia driver.  So, I still can't enable wireless
[13:30] <_Abe_> n450 (pineview 1.6GHz), 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD
[13:30] <sporedi> it also ask for passwd for synaptic package manager
[13:30] <sporedi> how do i start synaptic package manager from command line ?
[13:31] <dcg> _Abe_: those specs should be OK, you may need to pass a kernel option at boot, but unfortunately I don't know which one. you may need to do some googling
[13:31] <basso> _Abe_: hello abe
[13:31] <pupuser9a5750> So, WTF ?   How is it possible that the Ubuntu installer can use the Wireless adapter, but the installed version can't
[13:31] <basso> _Abe_: turn of ACPI or something
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> !apt-get | sporedi
[13:31] <oCean> pupuser9a5750: mind your language here
[13:32] <basso> _Abe_: the first option when you boot the live cd
[13:32] <basso> _Abe_: i had that problem with my macbook
[13:32] <_Abe_> hmm, I need to dl the 10.10 version or maybe even an earlier release as they installed without any probs.. and maybe update from there
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> sporedi: It is invoked with: sudo apt-get, but you will still need a password.
[13:32] <dcg> pupuser9a5750: I would recommend starting the live CD and find out what drivers are being used for the wireless. then you at lease have a place to look.
[13:33] <pupuser9a5750> Hmm... good suggestion.  I'll try that
[13:33] <dcg> pupuser9a5750: it is possible that your device has another driver that is interfering. one that is not on the live cd
[13:33] <pupuser9a5750> Maybe
[13:33] <pupuser9a5750> How would I check ?
[13:33] <sporedi> ok
[13:33] <sporedi> thanks
[13:33] <qin> !maverick | _Abe_
[13:34] <sporedi> where i can get good info on ubuntu vps
[13:34] <dcg> pupuser9a5750: that will be something I don't have time to help you with tonight, getting close to bedtime. others may be able to help or do some googling
[13:34] <Sidewinder1> sporedi: Keep in mind that Synaptic is simply a front-end GUI for apt-get.
[13:35] <Antwon> hello. on my secondary computer I made my /tmp folder to use RAM and I set the max size 256M, but what happens, if its filled 100% where does it store files then?
[13:36] <drealecs> hello all
[13:37] <drealecs> I'm trying to make a pool question. anyone here?
[13:37] <drealecs> ...
[13:38] <lolzer> is there an offline dictionary available in ubuntu??
[13:38] <magepsycho_> PHP extension "curl" must be loaded.
[13:38] <lolzer> i cannot find it in the repos
[13:38] <magepsycho_> how to enable curl guys
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> !poll > drealecs
[13:40] <hermit_> When i start evolution it starts eating up all memory, slowing gnome shell down, making my system unusable. Anyone know how i can see/test what is causing this serious lag? I'd like to submit a bug report, but don't know where to start on this one.
[13:40] <no_face> guys! where do i get the latest ATI drivers from?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> no_face:  the ati web site. but i reccomend using the ones in the repos.
[13:41] <harvi_svk> no_face: download it from ati website
[13:41] <xuexhe> help,vpn cant work,anybody know why?
[13:41] <jiltdil> how to install games on wine?
[13:41] <no_face> i jare you two ati users?
[13:41] <mithran> bazhang, if i list a package name in 'http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt' will i be able to see all of its dependencies?
[13:41] <no_face> Are you two ATI users?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  douible click the exe/installer.. or 'wine /path/to/installer.exe'
[13:41] <harvi_svk> no_face: yes
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> no_face:  not when i have other options..
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> I have 1 ati machine left./
[13:42] <jiltdil> Dr_willis;thanks
[13:42] <LjL> mithran: yes, or you can choose to see only the dependencies that are not contained in ubuntu-desktop (or another package of your choice). that site is not yet available for Natty though.
[13:42] <xuexhe> vpn cant work ,why?
[13:42] <mithran> LjL, thanks.
[13:44] <Nuc134rB0t> hello, apps turn white when i open 3-5 of them, how do i fix that?
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> Nuc134rB0t, Add more RAM?
[13:45] <Nuc134rB0t> Sidewinder1, , 2gb are not enough now? o.0
[13:46] <xuexhe> vpn cant work ,what to do ?
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> Nuc134rB0t, It was just a thought.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:47] <Nuc134rB0t> Sidewinder1, oh... pheww.!
[13:47] <amin4> I installVbox OSE and under devices menu is Install Guest Additions and doing that it wants to download that what is that?
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> Nuc134rB0t, I only have 1 Gig and, once in a while I experience the same thing; lucily it doesn't generally last long.
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> 2-6 seconds
[13:48] <Nuc134rB0t> Sidewinder1, ati or nvidia user?
[13:49] <Xander_2> nvidia user
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> amin4:  downloading the latest guest addations..
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> Nuc134rB0t, The latter.
[13:50] <Nuc134rB0t> i've googled it everyday but it seems noone has come out with the right solution yet, old posts suggest installing propetary drivers which won't work either.
[13:51] <amin4> Dr_Willis:what does it do?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> amin4:  enables extra features in vbox. You may want to read the vbox manual at its homepage.....
[13:51] <amin4> where should I read about that?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> amin4:  the virtual box homepage...
[13:52] <Guest97130> anybody knows what the wireless icon on the notification bar lost the wireless signal strength tooltip on natty??
[13:52] <Guest97130> i mean why
[13:53] <Nuc134rB0t> amin4, Guest Additions is mostly to auto catch your mouse point, and not have to use right ctrl for that
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Guest97130:  they dont want 'indicator-apps' to be dynamic i guess.
[13:53] <Z30> hi
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Nuc134rB0t:  actually i think with the latest vbox versions it allready can do that without the guest addations.. well some of the guest addation features are getting merged into the vbox core at least.
[13:53] <Z30> i have problem with bochs on ubuntu
[13:54] <DrNoone> Dr_Willis, it was a great feature for using wireless on some poor signal areas at home!!
[13:54] <amin4> Nuc134rB0t: What else it do does it install any os?/////////////////////
[13:54] <Nuc134rB0t> Dr_Willis, thats ncie news, i haven't tried the latest version yet.
[13:55] <Z30> i install bochs 2.4.5 and i cant simulate any thing!!!
[13:55] <Nuc134rB0t> amin4, i don't remember :) i used to need it for that purpose only (from what i remember)
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Nuc134rB0t:  yea . some of the improvements can cause confusion when  you are used to the old ways.
[13:56] <Z30> what can i do?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> !info bochs
[13:56] <need_help> hi
[13:57] <sporedi> !vps
[13:57] <need_help> i need help my ubuntu doesn"t recognaze my ubs disk
[13:57] <Propel> ext4 format can store files greater than 4GBs, right?
[13:57] <Z30> i install it but i have some ERROR:
[13:57] <Z30> 00000000000i[     ] LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH not set. using compile time default '/usr/lib/bochs/plugins'
[13:57] <Z30> 00000000000i[     ] BXSHARE not set. using compile time default '/usr/share/bochs'
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> need_help:  when you plug it in, wait a few moments and check 'dmesg' command output.  check it a few times. (wait a few secs each time), look for any error emssages, and try mounting it by hand.
[13:59] <Z30> what can i do?
[13:59] <need_help> which kind of errors(see i'm new in ubuntu)
[13:59] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, are you sure your usb device works on other pcs?
[14:00] <need_help> yes in fact i have 3 i did try them all
[14:00] <need_help> it's work like charm in vista
[14:00] <DrNoone> Propel, you're right. I don't remember which is the upper limit but it's really big
[14:00] <need_help> my dvd driver is working though
[14:00] <Propel> thanks, DrNoone
[14:01] <Propel> i did a quick google, and found it can store up to 16GBs files
[14:01] <Propel> lol
[14:01] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, did you try mounting manually in terminal?
[14:01] <DrNoone> Propel, google is your friend ;)
[14:01] <Propel> 16TBs*
[14:01] <need_help> no i don't know how
[14:02] <Z30> any one use bochs?
[14:02] <Propel> wine can still read HDDs in ext4, right?
[14:02] <Z30> help me!!!
[14:02] <need_help> can u give my some tuto links i will try
[14:02] <Propel> no, sorry Z30
[14:02] <DrNoone> I believe that 16TBs is on the category "really big" :D
[14:02] <Propel> lol, yup :P
[14:02] <muneeb> hi, i had /home on different partition.. after reinstalling Natty, all items on Desktop are gone. but Music, Downloads some other folders are intact. is it the default behavior ?
[14:03] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/howto-mount-usb-pen-drive-221505/
[14:03] <Jeruvy> muneeb: did you copy your old home back?
[14:03] <need_help> thank u
[14:03] <Z30> help me in bochs!!!
[14:04] <need_help> but is that an error message " 9038.138086] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4"
[14:04] <need_help> ?
[14:04] <need_help> i did found it when i tried dmesg command
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> Z30:  if no one knows.. then no one knows.. You can check the forums, and the askubuntu.com site and perhaps the bochs forums/homepage
[14:04] <muneeb> Jeruvy, i just checked mount point to be /home  for sda7 at  installation time.. which was home before
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> need_help:  now a few moments later. check 'dmesg' again.. its a history of what the system is seeing and doing
[14:05] <Jeruvy> muneeb: so you over-wrote your /home then.
[14:05] <muneeb> Jeruvy, i didn't copy anything.. all were there except Desktop being clean
[14:05] <muneeb> Jeruvy, i didn't ask the installer to format /home..
[14:06] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, haven't seen that, i couldn't tell what it really is, i mean, there seems to be a problem, but i don't know what kind
[14:06] <Jeruvy> muneeb: I understand,but it still would install overtop the previous install.
[14:06] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, follow the instructions on the link and see what happens
[14:07] <need_help> thanks nuc  thanks i will
[14:07] <muneeb> Jeruvy, plus Downloads, Pictures, settings of my apps, Videos are there.. only Desktop things are missing..
[14:07] <Jeruvy> muneeb: they are gone.
[14:08] <muneeb> muneeb, it was my intuition that Desktop would go.. so i had backed it up.. but just curious is this Default behaviour?
[14:08] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, !TIP write ls /dev/sd* with your usb unplugged then again with your usb plugged in, and see which /dev/sd your are gonna mount
[14:08] <Habbie> hellp; why are /dev/random and /dev/urandom mode 666? won't that allow any user to poison my RNG?
[14:08] <muneeb> Jeruvy, rest all is fine :)
[14:09] <Habbie> s/hellp/hello/
[14:10] <muneeb> Jeruvy, if you are able to keep Music, Downloads, etc in /home in different partition  intact then Desktop should also be preserved.. i expected
[14:10] <Sharique> hello
[14:10] <need_help> can't acces lol  permission denied
[14:11] <need_help> Nuc134rB0t  can't acces i have an error 'permission denied"
[14:12] <cheater666> hi guys
[14:12] <cheater666> my mouse pointer just disappeared... and dmesg shows a very weird message
[14:13] <cheater666> [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: EvoCh 0 Mthd 0x0000 Data 0x00000400 (0x0002 0x01)
[14:13] <cheater666> this keeps on happening over and over and the only way to get my mouse pointer back is to reboot my pc..
[14:13] <cheater666> can someone help me track this down please?
[14:14] <Z30> hi again!
[14:14] <aguitel> how to change the operation system name in grub2 ?
[14:14] <DrNoone> cheater666, what do you define as "very weird message"?
[14:14] <Z30> i cant solve my problem with bochs
[14:14] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, type sudo [and the command line] then type your password
[14:14] <cheater666> DrNoone, what i just posted
[14:15] <need_help> thanks
[14:15] <Z30> help me in bochs!!!! :(
[14:15] <gandalf88bis> buon giorno ragazzuoli
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !it| gandalf88bis
[14:15] <need_help> now i can se my usb disk ..................... scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Hitachi  HTS545032B9A300       PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS
[14:15] <gandalf88bis> ops.... my mistake
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> unable to mount it, Sansui350A_ ?
[14:16] <Oday> what do i keep pressing in order to see GRUB loading and get a boot menu?
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> Oday:  shift key
[14:16] <Oday> ahh ok i thought it was 'G"
[14:16] <Oday> thank you
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> Oday:  or just disabkle the lame grub auto hideing in /etc/default
[14:16] <maverick> hello
[14:17] <maverick> Is it possible to install and run call of duty 4 modern warfare 2 on ubuntu?
[14:17] <Almehdi> Oday: You will need to hammer the "shift"
[14:17] <coolmego> can any 1 tell d irc channel for firefox
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | maverick
[14:17] <maverick> thanks
[14:17] <dustbowl> @maverick - I've just tried running Team Fortress 2, and it's really laggy
[14:18] <maverick> @dustbowl: IC so it will be the same on cod mw2
[14:18] <dustbowl> but there's a nice chance I'm doing something wtong
[14:18] <dustbowl> *wrong
[14:18] <maverick> @dustbowl: are you using wine?
[14:18] <dustbowl> Yeah
[14:18] <need_help> sudo/dev/sd*  doesn"t work for me
[14:18] <dustbowl> and PlayOnLinux
[14:18] <coolmego> @maverick : u have to try it's not efficient wid big apps
[14:18] <maverick> i have playlinux installed
[14:19] <sygnous> how do I get the unity bar thing to not go away?
[14:19] <juan_> join #android
[14:19] <maverick> coolmega: thanks i will
[14:19] <mudd1> cheater666, is it an option to use the binary NVidia driver?
[14:19] <harvi_svk> hey fellas, have anyone problem in 11.04 with vlc? playing video causes to hang X and cpu load is very high... :(
[14:19] <dustbowl> @coolmego Is there any way to boost the hardware speed? It's not lagging over the connection, but from bad hardware.
[14:19] <Nuc134rB0t> need_help, sudo ls /dev/sd*
[14:20] <mudd1> because if the message is related to your mouse pointer disappearing, then it seems to be a nouveau issue
[14:20] <Dynetrax> Whats the difference between the default-jre and default-jre-headless package, I'm trying to install java on my ubuntu server
[14:20] <coolmego> @dustbowl : u hve graphic card in it...if yes which1
[14:20] <cheater666> mudd1, i am on a live cd. got no working hdd right now
[14:20] <mudd1> oh damn
[14:20] <dustbowl> @coolmego I'm not talking about my computer being bad (it ran TF2 fine on Windows) but about Wine messing something up
[14:20] <mudd1> then you probably can't configure much anyway
[14:21] <mudd1> rebooting is a real pain then OTOH
[14:21] <dustbowl> because it should be fine - ran with no problems on M$
[14:21] <cheater666> no, but i can figure out how to fix it when it messes up
[14:21] <cheater666> yes
[14:21] <cheater666> right now i can't reboot
[14:21] <Dynetrax> anyone?
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> need_help: unable to mount an external usb disk?
[14:21] <cheater666> i gotta keep running like that because i'm doing data recovery
[14:22] <coolmego> @dustbowl : dats d main prob wid wine...have a search wid oder simulations like wine...
[14:22] <coolmego> i rememberd 1 but forgot its name :(
[14:22] <mudd1> and your mouse still works, it's only the cursor that disappears, cheater666?
[14:22] <dustbowl> @coolmego All right, thanks anyhow. Maverick, if you're still on, good luck to you.
[14:22] <maverick> Guys which win to install...
[14:22] <cheater666> mudd1, yes
[14:23] <cheater666> mudd1, i have had that happen before... i think it's because i ran out of ram
[14:23] <maverick> thanks dustbowl..
[14:23] <mudd1> I know nothing about nouveau or anything so I can't help you there ... a general thing that resolves some similar issues is starting the appearance preferences ... oddly enough
[14:23] <coolmego> @dustbowl : its k :(
[14:23] <cheater666> mudd1, another thing: the TTY's are inaccessible
[14:23] <cheater666> mudd1, when i switch to another tty than desktop, the desktop graphic freezes on the last frame it was showing. i never see text mode.
[14:24] <mudd1> cheater666, did you consider using a memory stick as swap?
[14:24] <need_help> monkeydust  don't know but i did try this
[14:24] <need_help> but didn't work for me
[14:24] <need_help> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[14:24] <cheater666> mudd1, nope, should i?
[14:24] <mudd1> well, if you suspect the lack of RAM to be the culprit
[14:24] <cheater666> mudd1, i think i don't have any memory sticks here though
[14:24] <cheater666> yeah
[14:24] <cheater666> but now that this has happened, what can i do?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> need_help: what did you try? you can use ext4dev to mount an external usb drive, it's how i do it
[14:25] <cheater666> i am guessing nouveau is a kernel module right?
[14:25] <mudd1> guess so, but I don't know what your X thinks of you just reloading it
[14:25] <need_help> give me the procedure plz ...............;i did use this tuto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[14:26] <debugger> im here to help ubuntu users
[14:26] <mudd1> did you try the "appearance" kludge?
[14:26] <mudd1> worth a try at least
[14:26] <debugger> anyone needing help with anything?
[14:27] <mudd1> debugger seemed strange
[14:27] <Nuc134rB0t> lol
[14:27] <cheater666> mudd1, what appearance kludge?
[14:27] <damian_-_> hi, flash in ubuntu us REALLY slow. videos play ok but for example the jwplayer gui in youtube is REALLY slow. clicking to go out of fullscreen can take 20 seconds
[14:27] <cheater666> mudd1, i have tried reloading X once and it froze linux completely
[14:27] <cheater666> there's some part of the kernel that is missing
[14:27] <ubuntu_> Guys
[14:27] <cheater666> what could it be and how can i reload it?
[14:27] <damian_-_> is anyone else experiencing slow flash
[14:28] <ubuntu_> Guys I need help.
[14:28] <ubuntu_> GRUB help to be specific.
[14:28] <Relevant> ubuntu_ Hey
[14:28] <mudd1> cheater666, well, what I said earlier: just go to System->Preferences->Appearance and see if it fixes things :)
[14:28] <Relevant> xD
[14:28] <ubuntu_> Hey Relevant :D
[14:28] <ubuntu_> It's me, Cain!
[14:28] <need_help> hum i guess there isn't a solution for my problem
[14:28] <Relevant> I figured :p
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> need_help: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/607414/
[14:28] <cheater666> mudd1, just a sec
[14:28] <ubuntu_> Woops forgot to set a nickname.
[14:28] <damian_-_> with previous ubuntu installs flash ran well
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_: type /nick blah
[14:28] <cheater666> mudd1, oh alright, no, that's not it. metacity is still alive.
[14:28] <need_help> thanks MonkeyDust
[14:29] <cheater666> er metacity or what ever is being used
[14:29] <ubuntu_> ;D
[14:29] <CainFoool> There we go.
[14:29] <Relevant> :D
[14:29] <CainFoool> Right
[14:29] <Relevant> Tor Connection is blocked on freenode :(
[14:29] <CainFoool> Whenever I try to boot on Ubuntu through my USB, I get a File not Found GRUB error.
[14:29] <CainFoool> I've already edited the GRUB file and it didn't help.
[14:29] <Relevant> Cain, you can whois me right now and get my ip xD
[14:30] <CainFoool> lol.
[14:30] <lolzer> ubuntu11.04 has better connectivity <> but it is the worst i have seen in the area of graphical compatibility.... i cant change a hell thing in my appearance ///
[14:30] <lilstevie> Relevant: 0.o
[14:30] <CainFoool> So.. nobody can help?
[14:30] <mudd1> cheater666, what happens when you switch desktop effects on and off again?
[14:30] <lilstevie> Relevant: http://blog.freenode.net/2010/01/connecting-to-freenode-using-tor-sasl/
[14:31] <cheater666> mudd1, let me try..
[14:31] <mudd1> or maybe only on ...
[14:31] <Relevant> lilstevie, ive read it.
[14:31] <cheater666> but i don't think that is it
[14:31] <Relevant> Its kinda too much effor?
[14:31] <Relevant> I can change my true IP anyway s'all good.
[14:31] <bruco> hi guys, someone uses blender here? when I press f10 to enter "scene context" ubuntu shows to me the wireless connection menu
[14:31] <cheater666> mudd1, it's working
[14:31] <damian_-_> hi, flash on ubuntu is REALLY slow. i can for example play youtube video but the players gui once fullscreened is basically frozen. clicking the button top go out of fullscreen will freeze the player for 20-30 seconds
[14:31] <cheater666> i'll tell you what happens
[14:32] <Habbie> damian_-_, are you on a laptop? try holding Fn
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> !ot| damian_-_
[14:32] <bruco> how can i enter "scene context" menu?
[14:32] <Habbie> damian_-_, oops ignore me
[14:32] <jqke> hi guys i've some trouble with unity... I have my 13" laptop and a 23" screen and when i want extended desktop i have a big black area on my laptop screen and just the bar a the top of my external screen
[14:32] <Habbie> bruco, are you on a laptop? try holding Fn
[14:32] <jqke> it used to work well few days or weeks ago
[14:32] <CainFoool> Can nobody help me with my GRUB error?!
[14:32] <mudd1> cheater666, really, you got your pointer back?
[14:32] <cheater666> no
[14:32] <cheater666> it's still doing some work
[14:32] <mudd1> ah ok
[14:33] <jqke> any idea how i could fix that ?
[14:33] <CainFoool> ..
[14:33] <damian_-_> monkeydust: but this is about flash on ubuntu. i guess its not really an ubuntu problem
[14:33] <bruco> Habbie, I'm on a laptop, but it's not a fn issue, seems like f10 is setted like a shortcut in unity
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> damian_-_: wrong nick, sorry, it was for bruco
[14:33] <cheater666> mudd1, ok well it's installing the nvidia driver.. this will not help at all because the nvidia driver only works after you reboot.
[14:33] <rileypv> sudo service nfs  to resart nfs?
[14:33] <bruco> and in blender I can't find "scene context" using menus
[14:33] <cheater666> so for me, never
[14:33] <damian_-_> oh, not a problem
[14:34] <rileypv> I want to restart nfs
[14:34] <bruco> MonkeyDust, what was for me?
[14:34] <rileypv> help please
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> rileypv: try sudo service nfs restart
[14:35] <harvi_svk> damin_-_ : flash is slower in every distro . On win. it runs fine.
[14:35] <mudd1> cheater666, ah yeah, it's not installed by default :/
[14:35] <damian_-_> can i update from  10.04 to natty via say update manager
[14:35] <damian_-_> or do i need to download the iso again
[14:35] <rileypv> nfs: unrecognized service
[14:35] <mudd1> cheater666, can't you restart the X server without rebooting though? .... maybe not now with the process running but to fix that in the future I mean.
[14:35] <rileypv>  but its in and it works mythtv
[14:36] <mudd1> and you could run future background processes with nohup
[14:36] <lolzer> you can download the alternate CD from torrents
[14:36] <Miguelpcn> hello there!
[14:37] <cheater666> mudd1, when i tried that it locked up linux
[14:37] <Miguelpcn> I have a DELL inspiron 1525 with Vista installed as when I bought the laptop 3 years ago....  it's got the recovery partition
[14:37] <Nuc134rB0t> damian_-_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:37] <Miguelpcn> I have 250GB in my HDD I would like to reuse this partition and install
[14:38] <Miguelpcn> Ubuntu in 50GB
[14:38] <damian_-_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:38] <damian_-_> vecause i just updated.
[14:38] <mudd1> cheater666, wow, this sucks
[14:38] <Miguelpcn> 50GB Vista
[14:38] <Miguelpcn> 50GB Debian
[14:38] <mudd1> you can't do anything in that Live environment
[14:38] <cheater666> mudd1, yeah lol
[14:38] <Miguelpcn> and leav the rest spare for when I need
[14:38] <cheater666> yeah :X
[14:38] <Miguelpcn> anybody can help me wqith that?
[14:39] <damian_-_> will the natty disc allow me to upgrade? ive never tried or seen anything afaik
[14:39] <Nuc134rB0t> damian_-_, yes
[14:39] <damian_-_> awesome thanks
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> Miguelpcn: put your question(s) in one line, please
[14:40] <damian_-_> anyone know a guide for mozplugger. im having trouble with linux flash and wanted to use windows flash
[14:40] <Miguelpcn> MonkyDust:  not exactly...     I couldn't find a definite answer to actually use the recovery partition....
[14:41] <Miguelpcn> if I use the recovery partiion, do I have to first save the drivers?
[14:41] <Miguelpcn> another one:    will all the hardware automatically be working on my ubuntu or I qill have to install a few drivers first?
[14:41] <mudd1> cheater666, last idea I have is to try gcursor
[14:42] <mudd1> you have to install it but AFAIK it works without having to restart X
[14:42] <damian_-_> anyone know a guide for mozplugger. im having trouble with linux flash and wanted to use windows flash. or can i use gnash or swfdec in firefox for FLV
[14:42] <mudd1> and maybe it resets something that will bring your cursor back
[14:42] <cheater666> let me try - thanks a lot mudd1
[14:42] <sporedi> !kvm
[14:43] <mudd1> cheater666, no problem, I hope that last idea finally helps
[14:43] <Hyst> sup
[14:43] <Nuc134rB0t> Miguelpcn, you will probably need to install the drivers for your graphic and wireless cards, but ubuntu will pop up a msg suggesting the correct drivers
[14:43] <dustbowl> 'lo Hyst
[14:43] <cheater666> mudd1, doesn't seem to help :-\
[14:44] <cheater666> mudd1, i think the cursor is being drawn in some way different than the rest of the window system
[14:44] <damian_-_> so this is BS. im in the flash channel and one fo the adobe devs answered my question to "is there a flash alternative" with. "no but there is an ubuntu alternative, windows!"
[14:44] <Miguelpcn> ok...   I also noticed that you must pay for Ubuntu, is that true for home use as well?
[14:44] <SuperLag> Miguelpcn: you don't have to pay for Ubuntu
[14:45] <Miguelpcn> Can I use the server version as well?  is it free?
[14:45] <SuperLag> it's all free
[14:45] <SuperLag> and it will always be free
[14:46] <dustbowl> that's the point of Ubuntu
[14:46] <Nuc134rB0t> Miguelpcn, I think you only have to pay if you want an original cd/dvd delivered to your house, but you can download ubuntu from http://www.ubuntu.com for free
[14:46] <dustbowl> the idea is to provide a free, open-source OS
[14:46] <mudd1> cheater666, sorry this didn't work either
[14:46] <tensorpudding> Miguelpcn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq
[14:46] <tensorpudding> all sorts of info on server
[14:46] <Miguelpcn> cool...   THANKS EVERYBODY
[14:46] <cheater666> mudd1, thanks for the help though =)
[14:46]  * LAcan cheers!
[14:46] <ichilton> clean install of 11.04 on a machine with an ATI AGP card with 2 monitors and an NVIDIA PCI card with 1 monitor. 2x monitors on ATI are working but wont go higher than 1024x768 and NVIDA one is not working or showing in the monitor settings but it has installed the Nvidia driver in "Additional Drivers" - can anyone help?
[14:47] <cheater666> i'm wondering if there are some sort of "layers" in the way the desktop is drawn in linux..
[14:47] <LAcan> ichilton, i think 11.04 is buggy for dual head systems
[14:47] <damian_-_> remonds me. there is a guy selling ubuntu on ebay for $50, people are buying it too. what can be done about that. i contacted ebay but they didnt do anything about it
[14:47] <ichilton> LAcan: oh...better off installing 10.10 then?
[14:47] <H4writer> Hi, I have à real strange issue. Just upgraded to 11.04 on my aspire 5920g with nvidia 8600m gt. Now it doesn't start. It keeps hanging on purple screen with normal grub params. If i try the recovery mode it keeps hanging on 'loading initial ramdisk ...'. But I have found à workaround to start my pc. First starst in recovery mode, then alt ctrl del and start Ubuntu with params 'text' and then start gdm
[14:47] <LAcan> ichilton, ya or 10.04 the LTS
[14:48] <ichilton> LAcan: ok, thanks
[14:48] <H4writer> Can somebody help me debug THE problem?
[14:48] <ichilton> LAcan: should it then just detect both graphics cards and all 3 monitors?
[14:48] <cablop> hello
[14:48] <ichilton> LAcan: If you need to, how do you get Ubuntu to re-detect graphics adapters/x settings?
[14:48] <LAcan> ichilton, i only have the one monitor so i cant say for sure, but a lot of bugs in 11.04 for dual head systems
[14:49] <ichilton> LAcan: ok, thanks
[14:49] <LAcan> ichilton, additonal drivers did that for you...
[14:49] <rileypv> i want to resrt nfs file sharing
[14:49] <cablop> i have one problem, while transfering files to another computer then the netwrok stop to work in that other computer, i need to restart it to make network work again, i was googling, but nothing found
[14:49] <sporedi> !lxc
[14:49] <rileypv> restart
[14:49] <LAcan> cablop, is the other cimputer windows?
[14:49] <izinucs> Is there a way to get a user in 11.04 to *NOT* show up on the login screen?
[14:49] <cablop> both are ubuntu, LAcan
[14:49] <LAcan> izinucs, tweak ubuntu will let you do that
[14:49] <cablop> but i need them to use samba
[14:50] <mithran> hi all is there some way to configure aptitude to search a particular folder, to resolve its dependencies and install packages without the other entries in sources.list?
[14:51] <mudd1> cheater666, sure :)
[14:51] <mithran> please help
[14:51] <izinucs> mithran: are you going to be running your own repository for the dependencies? if not then how will it search for them if you eliminate the other repos?
[14:52] <Nuc134rB0t> izinucs, System > Administration > access screen will do that
[14:52] <debd> I just downloaded some docs/packages from the "documentation" catagory in synaptic..now where should I find them?
[14:52] <izinucs> Nuc134rB0t: thanks.. is this on 11.04 ?? you know... the one without a menu system :/
[14:53] <cablop> mm
[14:53] <debd> anyone?
[14:53] <cablop> LAcan: any idea?
[14:53] <mithran> i downloaded all the packages, with deps and the repos are failing for me beacuse my admin has blocked a keyword, so it should not look in the internet repos, i downloaded all the packages from another computer, but when i do 'dpkg -i *.deb' it fails so i think i missed a few, but dpkk is not telling me their names
[14:53] <mithran> izinucs,
[14:53] <LAcan> cablop, just standard networling stuff... how are they connected?
[14:53] <debd> I just downloaded some docs/packages from the "documentation" catagory in synaptic..now where should I find them?
[14:53] <Nuc134rB0t> Nuc134rB0t, oh sorry i'm on 11.04 natty but i chose Ubuntu Classic as session, you can search Access Screen on menu
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> debd: try locate blah
[14:54] <debd> PITA
[14:54] <Nuc134rB0t> o.o why am i talking to myself?
[14:54] <Nuc134rB0t> izinucs, oh sorry i'm on 11.04 natty but i chose Ubuntu Classic as session, you can search Access Screen on menu
[14:54] <debd> worked
[14:55] <izinucs> Nuc134rB0t: k.. thanks
[14:55] <pokoko222> how can i download flash content from ubuntu
[14:56] <no_face> I'm Back!
[14:56] <compdoc> omg!
[14:56] <pokoko222> no_face who da fuck r u ?
[14:57] <ortsvorsteher> !language
[14:57] <no_face> !no_face
[14:57] <LjL> !language | pokoko222
[14:57] <LjL> oh sorry
[14:57] <cablop> LAcan both connected to a linksys router (even the router is linux xD)
[14:57] <debd> MonkeyDust: but those are not the necessary files...some copyright and readme stuff :(
[14:57] <mithran> bazhang, u there?
[14:57] <pokoko222> how can i download flash content from ubuntu
[14:58] <LAcan> cablop, hrmmm.. ok when you say it "stops" decsctibe what happens in more detail...?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> pokoko222: try ubuntu-dl
[14:58] <no_face> !google formerjunkie
[14:58] <Propel> what does, "take ownership of filesystem" mean?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> pokoko222: try youtube-dl (sorry)
[14:58] <pokoko222> MonkeyDust how to install that, synaptic?
[14:58] <Propel> when formatting a new drive in disk utility
[14:59] <cablop> LAcan, well i transfered files, about 2GB, then that computer got disconnected from network, it says it is connected, but it is not working anymore, cannot ping the router or access internet from it, of course any remote connection is lost
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> pokoko222: type youtube-dl and read the instructions
[14:59] <Nuc134rB0t> pokoko222, try videodownloader addon for Firefox
[14:59] <no_face> !foo
[15:00] <no_face> lol
[15:00] <LAcan> cablop, sounds like your DoS'ing one of your machines...
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> ubottu, you're so intelligent!
[15:00] <LAcan> cablop, the target computer is the one that disconnects?
[15:00] <pokoko222> Nuc134rB0t is that only for youtube content?
[15:00] <no_face> !foo is <reply> you
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> pokoko222: youtube-dl is for youtube content only
[15:01] <Nuc134rB0t> pokoko222, Flash based videos, not only Youtube.
[15:01] <Eoja> Hey guys
[15:01] <pokoko222> Nuc134rB0t ok tnx a lot
[15:01] <pokoko222> i love u, marry me
[15:01] <no_face> !-bot
[15:01] <Eoja> Please I'd like to know how to move "Applications" and "Files and Folders" unity icons to the top. I just can't do it. Tried to move like other icons, but they won't.
[15:01] <cedriczg> *** Hi there. Anyone had issues when upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 regarding LIRC modules. I have the upgrade install process saying 'loading LIRC modules' with no change since hours
[15:02] <no_face> !-ubotu
[15:02] <debd> I just downloaded some docs/packages from the "documentation" catagory in synaptic..now where should I find them?
[15:02] <slimm609> anyone good with xorg?
[15:02] <pokoko222> Nuc134rB0t will u marry me?
[15:02] <cedriczg> Can anyone help me with this upgrade being stuck ?
[15:02] <jrib> no_face: please do that in a private message
[15:02] <no_face> yes sir
[15:02] <cablop> LAcan, yes, in fact, let's call it the file server, when i copy files to the file server it got disconected
[15:03] <LAcan> cablop, and is it actually disconnected or only disconnected from the client?
[15:03] <Nuc134rB0t> pokoko222, Sorry i only marry dead people
[15:03] <slimm609> when i do Xorg -configure it fails to find any screens but when i do startx with no xorg.conf  it starts just fine
[15:03] <cablop> LAcan: LAcan the server lost connection with all the network
[15:04] <LAcan> cablop, they are hard wired or wireless?
[15:04] <cablop> LAcan: wired
[15:04] <pokoko222> Nuc134rB0t i can kill myself ok?
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> !ot > pokoko222
[15:04] <LAcan> cablop, does the router generate logs? anything useful in there?
[15:04] <Guest34235> anyone know where wwwroot is on Maverick?
[15:04] <cablop> LAcan: no logs, afaik
[15:04] <Eoja> Please I'd like to know how to move "Applications" and "Files and Folders" unity icons to the top. I just can't do it. Tried to move like other icons, but they won't.
[15:04] <pokoko222> ubottu suck my dicky dick
[15:05] <debd> I just downloaded some docs/packages from the "documentation" catagory in synaptic..now where should I find them?
[15:05] <LAcan> cablop, ok and this happens everytime you move large amounts of data?
[15:05] <cablop> LAcan: yes, it is
[15:06] <LAcan> cablop, ok can you try doing the reverse? that is sending 2gbs from the fileserver to the client and see what happenes?
[15:06] <cedriczg> I found this link related to LIRC issues with natty https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/lirc/+bug/778026
[15:06] <Nuc134rB0t> Eoja, you mean like add their lauchers to the top panel beside the ubuntu buttom?
[15:06] <cablop> LAcan: i was going to try pulling them from server
[15:06] <cedriczg> can anyone tell me if I have any chance to get the upgrade install to continue? I still see Loading LIRC modules with no change
[15:06] <compdoc> cablop, moving large amounts of data is a good way to test a system for hardware problems
[15:07] <LAcan> compdoc, cablop ya I think the FS's NIC might be faulty
[15:07] <Eoja> Nucl134rB0t : we're talking about unity panel right ?
[15:07] <cablop> after pulling them i'll try moving forward, but the weird thing is i can do almost anything else at that computer, even online gamming with no problem, it is just when i move files via samba to it
[15:08] <cablop> but i have my doubts about that nic device too
[15:08] <Eoja> Nuc134rB0t : we're talking about Unity panel right ?
[15:08] <cablop> LAcan fs's nic?
[15:08] <Nuc134rB0t> Eoja, I'm talking about trying to do in unity, what we used to on gnome
[15:08] <Nuc134rB0t> :)
[15:08] <LAcan> cablop, filserver's network card
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> Nuc134rB0t: u can always use Ubuntu Classic, no effects
[15:10] <Eoja> well Nuc134rB0t if you're talking about putting it the upper panel, no i'm not talking about that, but shall we continue on pm ?
[15:10] <mithran> is there some way i can get dpkg to resolve dependencies in the current working directory?
[15:10] <compdoc> cablop, Ive seen some nics get too hot during large xfers. But it can also be problems with the drives or motherboard. maybe even the PSU
[15:10] <Nuc134rB0t> MonkeyDust, yes.
[15:11] <Nuc134rB0t> Eoja, ok
[15:11] <Vogie> I'm new in networking and LDAP. please confirm me a good basic source :)
[15:12] <Vogie> who knows about LDAP ?
[15:12] <Nuc134rB0t> Eoja, oh i just figured what exactly you want to know, i can't help :)
[15:12] <Guest34235> Vogie, these are two separate technologies, What would you like to know?
[15:13] <Eoja> Nuc134rB0t oh ok :s
[15:13] <praveen> i am using 11.04.i am trying to install a game from playdeb.net..i have added its repository in my software source..but still i am not able to install my game..when i click on the install button..software center opens and tells "there is no software package for stuntrally( name of game)".how to install it???
[15:13] <Guest34235> !LDAP | Vogie
[15:13] <Eoja> This unity is driving me crazy :/
[15:13] <cablop> compdoc: PSU?
[15:13] <kiu> how do i report a bug in ubuntu-bug ? :)
[15:13] <Guest34235> !IPv6
[15:13] <Vogie> Is it hard to configure LDAP in virtualBOX ?
[15:13] <Alex_Ivaylov> Eoja, switch to classic :)
[15:13] <Guest34235> !IPv6 | Vogie
[15:14] <Guest34235> !IPv4 | Vogie
[15:14] <compdoc> cablop, psu = power supply. There are even simple things like bios settings that can cause the problem.
[15:14] <Eoja> Alex_Ivaylov : how can i do that ? download gnome and that's it?
[15:14] <Guest34235> !TCPIP | Vogie
[15:14] <Guest34235> !TCP | Vogie
[15:14] <cablop> i think they are the drivers... to test i'll just go windows and see what happens, but i had that issue two months ago, then i used to restart the network interface, it worked on lucid, but cannot make it to work in natty
[15:14] <nuobus> Does anybody know how to search for a room here?
[15:14] <nuobus> xchat
[15:14] <Vogie> wow !
[15:14] <Guest34235> !Networking | Vogie
[15:14] <Guest34235> hmm
[15:14] <Vogie> COME ON ! anything else !
[15:15] <Guest34235> Vogie, what are you trying to accomplish?
[15:15] <cablop> compdoc: PSU... maybe, i'll check that too, the other day it was sounding like one disk got off and on again...
[15:15] <szal> Vogie: please ask a specific question, you don't profit a bit from such generalisms
[15:15] <Vogie> I just want to do it for my project (student) | Guest34235
[15:16] <metalfan_> hi
[15:16] <dario_> how to play dvd
[15:16] <Vogie> OK, sorry guys :)
[15:16] <Alex_Ivaylov> Eoja, if you are using the standard ubuntu 11.04 desktop you should have "Ubuntu Classic" on the login screen as an option
[15:16] <edbian> When I go to google it's in some other language.  There is a link to change it to english but if I restart the machine it goes back to this other language.  What might be causing this?  locale  ?
[15:16] <cablop> Vogie: but your question is toooooo vague
[15:16] <nibbler_> hi. i'd like to draw the layout of my flat, or some simple technical object - what program would i use for that?
[15:16] <szal> dario_: insert DVD, open w/ player, enjoy
[15:16] <cablop> vogie it is like asking if i can configure ldap on a computer
[15:16] <nuobus> Does anybody know how to search for a room?
[15:16] <metalfan_> im looking for a simple tool that shows my current eth0 transfer rate in the console. ive used bwm-ng in the past but its not in the repos any more...any recommendations?
[15:17] <nuobus> Want to talk with someone with android experience
[15:17] <metalfan_> nuobus, just imagine that people here dont get paid to please you
[15:17] <no_face> nuobus, speak away
[15:17] <Vogie> Yes, sir. I try ask little question :)
[15:17]  * mervaka wishes people understood irc etiquette better :/
[15:17] <Eoja> Alex_Ivaylov , i don't seem to have it :x
[15:17]  * metalfan_ agrees with mervaka
[15:17]  * cablop +1
[15:17] <szal> nuobus: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/
[15:17] <nuobus> metalfan, fuck off
[15:17] <nuobus> :-)
[15:17] <no_face> !language
[15:17] <Guest34235> Vogie, google is likely a good starting point and maybe some of the Linux sites or openldap in a google search
[15:18] <nuobus> szal, thanks man
[15:18] <wireis> hello, could some kind person advise me on the best channel for backtrack usage?
[15:18] <mervaka> CAN I ASK A QUESTION, YOU NEED TO ANSWER ME RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I AM GOLDFISH
[15:18] <szal> !caps
[15:18] <Alex_Ivaylov> Eoja, see this http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Use-Classic-GNOME-Session-on-Ubuntu-11-04-200092.shtml
[15:18] <metalfan_> nuobus, of course im lying.....they all want to kiss your ass as fast as possible even if you dont put in the time to describe a problem. PLEASE LET ME SERVE YOU
[15:18] <mervaka> ubottu: lol
[15:18] <no_face> lie
[15:18] <no_face> lies
[15:18] <no_face> !lies
[15:18] <edbian> mervaka, haahaha
[15:18] <edbian> You are goldfish?
[15:19] <Vogie> I tried that (a bout 3 days !!!) but i coudn't configure it :( | Guest34235
[15:19] <nuobus> metalfan_, thank you sir!
[15:19] <mervaka> sorry, i am done
[15:19] <cablop> vogie anyway, my suggestion is, select a good OS to install on the VBox, then install it, think of anything inside the VBox as a new OS in a different computer, this is what i do here and virtual machines and computers look like just computers to the lan
[15:19] <Guest34235> Vogie, have you considered buying a book?
[15:19] <dario_> ima koga da razgovaramo na hrvatski
[15:19] <wireis> can anyone advise me on the appropriate channel for backtrack users?
[15:19] <zak_> how can i transfer files from my desktop workstation to my lappy, !! my lappy detects the usb cable ''USB-USB Bridge'', but not the workstation !(though 'lsusb' shows it 'do I rerally need any package to install ?
[15:19] <szal> !hr
[15:19] <mervaka> edbian: goldfish with ADHD
[15:19] <Guest34235> Vogie, you could prolly find something decent for a tablet or e-reader
[15:19] <dario_> thanks
[15:20] <bestwithu> an off-beat quetion, could anyone tell me any good (genune) way to earn money online?
[15:20] <metalfan_> ubuntu is a great distritbution but there are to many users that dont understand the philosophy thats behind linux, very sad
[15:20] <nuobus> wireis, I can advise you to use Ubuntu :-)
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> !ot| bestwithu
[15:20] <cablop> vogie, be sure your network deviced on the VBox OS are not using NAT, if you use NAT there's no way to reach any service ionside the VBox
[15:20] <no_face> bestwithu, fill in questionaires
[15:20] <Vogie> Here (my city, Country) you can't find any good book about LINUX and LDAP |Guest34235
[15:20] <nuobus> metalfan_, explain please?
[15:20] <no_face> !offtopic
[15:20] <Guest34235> Vogie, then you're stuck with google
[15:20] <nuobus> metalfan_, whats da philosophy
[15:21] <cablop> vogie, what Os do you have in that VBox?
[15:21] <harvi_svk> no_face:  driver works ???
[15:21] <Sidewinder1> !backtrack > wireis
[15:21] <Vogie> Thanks, I never think about that !  |cablop
[15:22] <Vogie> I tried ubuntu, but if some esiyer is there i can try it | cablop
[15:22] <edbian> When I go to google it's in some other language.  There is a link to change it to english but if I restart the machine it goes back to this other language.  What might be causing this?  locale  ?
[15:22] <wireis> no problem ubottu, thankyou anyway :)
[15:22] <cablop> Vogie if ubuntu or windows you'll probably need the vbox additions inside the guest OS
[15:22] <zak_> how can i transfer files from my desktop workstation to my lappy, !! my lappy detects the usb cable ''USB-USB Bridge'', but not the workstation !(though 'lsusb' shows it 'do I rerally need any package to install ?
[15:23] <mcurran> How do I stop the Desktop entry from being created on start-up?  I can't find the file and grep -lir takes forever...
[15:23] <Vogie> isn't it better if i install 2 ubuntu in virtualBox and then try configure LDAP | cablop
[15:23] <mcurran> please help
[15:23] <zak_> how can i transfer files from my desktop workstation to my lappy, !! my lappy detects the usb cable ''USB-USB Bridge'', but not the workstation !(though 'lsusb' shows it 'do I rerally need any package to install ?
[15:23] <mcurran> I already changed my working directory/desktop to /root/
[15:24] <edbian> mcurran, What is 'the desktop entry' ?
[15:24] <edbian> mcurran, One place you might look is power button -> system-settings->startup apps
[15:24] <mcurran> or /home/<username>, I haven't made up my mind, but I don't want Desktop
[15:24] <mcurran> unless I can change Desktop to desktop
[15:25] <edbian> mcurran, Please explain what you're talking about.
[15:25] <Guest34235> anyone using a macbook with the 4965 agn card from Intel?
[15:25] <mcurran> I'm using gnome and it's default desktop shown is /root/Desktop, but I want it to be either /root/ or /home/mcurran/
[15:26] <edbian> mcurran, Are you logging in as root?
[15:26] <edbian> mcurran, open a terminal and type whoami
[15:26] <mcurran> I tried to change it to desktop instead of Desktop. and whether or not I use root is my business
[15:26] <Guest64772> hello all, I have a problem with youtube. Videos are not playing
[15:26] <cablop> vogie my suggestion would be, install those two ubuntus in different VMs, then connect them using a bridged connection, you need a real router or a computer acting as a router in your network, a simple workarround would be to use the internat vbox network, so each computer could have each IP, then test, but by using the vbox internal network your other OSes and computers cannot see them,...
[15:26] <cablop> ...dunno if the host can, never tried
[15:27] <mcurran> I'm tired of using sudo for everything, and I know the risks, and it has nothing to do with my question
[15:27] <edbian> mcurran, alright.  Running as root is really bad.  to change the desktop folder  open gconf-editor (int a terminal)
[15:27] <infobit> Guest64772, install adobe flash player
[15:27] <mcurran> yeah
[15:27] <mcurran> no, I mean,
[15:27] <Guest64772> @infobit i installed the ubuntu restricted, is the flash player inside that ?
[15:28] <mcurran> for the gui desktop, I already changed the desktop viewed to /root/, but there is still a folder created for Desktop on every startup
[15:28] <cablop> mcurran: go with the gconf-editor suggestion edbian is telling you
[15:28] <infobit> Guest64772, use synaptic to install,type adobe flash in it and select the version, default no flash player avialablr you have to install
[15:28] <edbian> mcurran, apps ->nautilus->preferences
[15:28] <Vogie> how can i test if they connect to gether ? I have router (ADSL modem and it's a router too ) | cablop
[15:29] <edbian> mcurran, There is a 'use home folder as desktop'  I'm still looking for better customization. However root's homefolder is /root/
[15:29] <Vogie> how to test Networking is done | cablop
[15:29] <cablop> vogie, mmm
[15:29] <praveen> guest64772, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:29] <mcurran> got it I think, thank you
[15:30] <Guest64772> @infobit and @praveen i install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:30] <infobit> ok Guest64772 then try using youtube
[15:30] <mcurran> If set to true, then Nautilus will use the user's home folder as the desktop.  If it is false, then it will use ~/Desktop as the desktop.  (I'm restarting, hope "Desktop" isn't created again."
[15:30] <will> hey guys. what's the default font set in 11.04? is it (reading down) sans, sans, ubuntu, ubuntu bold, monospace? or is it all ubuntu?
[15:31] <Guest64772> hahah @infobit its working now
[15:31] <Vogie> cablop, suggest i istall 2 ubuntu in 2 VMs and now how to test networking is OK ?! in ubuntu2 ping of IP address the ubuntu1 ?!
[15:31] <praveen> Guest64772, great!!!!
[15:31] <cablop> Vogie: ok, simple, configure one VM, make one of its Network Adapters a bridged adapter, attach it to the host network adapter, use ifconfig and ping to test them
[15:31] <Guest64772> @praveen thanks!
[15:31] <infobit> ok Guest64772 enjoy
[15:31] <tensorpudding> will: ubuntu is the default sans font
[15:32] <cablop> vogie once working go to the other and repeat
[15:32] <tensorpudding> will: monospace is the default monospace font, i don't think ubuntu comes in mono yet
[15:32] <Guest64772> I have a question regarding the design of my desktop. Some user have the big icons on the bottom of the desktop looking like a mac
[15:32] <Guest64772> how can i get that theme?
[15:32] <cablop> vogie right on the way to test, check that about bridged adapters, i think your VMs are using NAT by default
[15:33] <praveen> Guest64772, i think you are talking about avant window manager
[15:33] <Vogie> cablop, just one thik => yes they are NAT and I'm gone fix it.
[15:33] <Guest64772> @praveen let me google that and see, brb
[15:33] <Vogie> cablop may i have your mail ? (I have to go now)
[15:33] <tensorpudding> Guest64772: that's not a theme, it's a program, they're probably using either awn, cairo-dock or docky
[15:33] <cablop> vogie in few words NAT makes your VM to act like any other program in the system, not as another computer, a bridged adapter will act as a real adapter wqith a real mac address either, you can see them as real NICs
[15:34] <will> tensorpudding: thanks for the clarification :)
[15:35] <cablop> vogie check private message
[15:35] <praveen> guest64772, something like this-- http://taufanlubis.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/avant-window-navigator.png
[15:35] <Guest64772> @praveen, I m downloading already. it looks really nice
[15:36] <Guest64772> @praveen thanks
[15:36] <Guest64772> @tensorpudding thank you
[15:36] <praveen> guest64772, my pleasure!!!
[15:36] <aguitel> how edit and change menu entry in grub2 ?
[15:37] <cablop> lacan compdoc it seems i can pull files from FS with no issue, but can't send files from remote places... still unsure
[15:37] <cablop> maybe Ot
[15:37] <cablop> but those new scrollbars are just... well... nice
[15:37] <LAcan> cablop, if you have another NIC handy i would try that
[15:38] <cablop> somehow confusing, but i like them
[15:38] <cablop> the other nic is failing a lot, due to driver issues, i'm using the onboard now
[15:38] <Samo502> You guys make me wish i was onlinux instead of waiting 3 more hours for a torrent
[15:38] <Samo502> on linux*
[15:38] <aureianimus> i'm trying to set a shortcut to a script, the script is working when i type it in the terminal, but the shortcut doesn't
[15:38] <aureianimus> i'm using gconf-editor
[15:39] <praveen> aguitel, everything is here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:39] <cablop> aureianimus: two options, check the full path to it, or, copy the gnome-terminal launcher and pass the command as a parameter, i use it to open a ssh in a maximized window here :P
[15:40] <Guest34235> Where is the wwwroot folder for apache2/apachectl?
[15:42] <naki78> hi all
[15:42] <aureianimus> cablop, the full path is correct (/home/pim/bin/toggleTouchpad) and i get the script by just using $ toggleTouchpad, should i just enter the last in the value of the key?
[15:43] <DrHalan> hey, i bought two apps in the software center on my desktop machine. Shouldn't  i be able to use them on my laptop with the same launchpad account?
[15:43] <oCean> Guest34235: /var/www is DocumentRoot
[15:43] <naki78> please can anyone help me with pulseaudio surround settings ?
[15:43] <jonsandness> hey
[15:43] <cablop> aureianimus: i suggest you to put the whole path in the shortcut
[15:43] <cablop> aureianimus: once you kow it is working then try making path shorter
[15:44] <jonsandness> i've got a quick question, say I'm in the terminal and logged in as a non-admin account.  can i run sudo, but have it authenticate with an account that isn't my own.  like, normally when you sudo it just prompts for a password, but I want it to prompt for username and password so i can choose which account to auth with.
[15:44] <aureianimus> cablop, the full path is in there, but it's not working
[15:44] <zak_> how can i transfer files from my desktop workstation to my lappy, !! my lappy detects the usb cable ''USB-USB Bridge'', but not the workstation !(though 'lsusb' shows it 'do I rerally need any package to install ?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> zak_: try Giver
[15:47] <cablop> aureianimus: check, this is what i have inside the shortcut i use to ssh, maybe you should try it
[15:47] <cablop> gnome-terminal --command="ssh -X user@192.168.1.150" --maximize
[15:48] <cablop> aureianimus: that would open a terminal and execute the command inside, if not, then place the command into a .sh file, make it executable and make a shortcut to that .sh file
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> cablop: i use ssh for this chat, what do you want to do?
[15:49] <hihihi100> where can I find a moonlight version compatible with firefox 4.0.1? novell moonlight 2.4.1 is not
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> cablop: use ssh -t user@IP "command"
[15:49] <hihihi100> if not moonlight, silverlight in open source
[15:50] <alz3abi> hello, I have a Toshiba laptop , have full numbatic keypad, can't use it anymore. 8,6,4,2 working like Mouse Arrow. how can I fix it ? thanks in advance
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> alz3abi: activate numlock
[15:51] <alz3abi> MonkeyDust: its on or off still same. was working before but not now. Ubuntu Natty  , kernel 2.6.39-0-generic-pae
[15:51] <cablop> MonkeyDust: ah, aureianimus just want to make a shotcut to a script
[15:52] <aureianimus> cablop, i now have gnome-terminal --comand="toggleTouchpad" with <Control><Alt>x as shortcut but it's not doing anything
[15:52] <edbian> When I go to google it's in some other language.  There is a link to change it to english but if I restart the machine it goes back to this other language.  What might be causing this?  locale  ?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> aureianimus: use ssh -t user@IP "command", with the quotes
[15:52] <jrib> edbian: probably, does your locale match the language it displays in?
[15:53] <aureianimus> MonkeyDust, that's for sshing, right? i'm trying to create a shortcut to a normal script, which for some reason isn't working
[15:53] <aureianimus> not with just the full path, not with the above
[15:53] <Fike> Hi!
[15:54] <edbian> jrib, it's all english us utf-8
[15:54] <jrib> edbian: that's kind of weird.  What's general.useragent.locale set to in about:config?
[15:54] <edbian> jrib, ahhh good idea!  lemme check
[15:55] <edbian> jrib, en-US
[15:55] <jrib> edbian: hmm
[15:55] <edbian> jrib, That was a good guess though
[15:55] <jrib> edbian: what language does it display?
[15:55] <Fike> Any python devs here? I know there's #python but I don't want to register. Don't need help, just some project ideas.
[15:55] <livingdaylight> hi
[15:55] <Habbie> Fike, register and come into #python. it's worth it.
[15:55] <jrib> Fike: #ubuntu-offtopic or #python please
[15:55] <edbian> jrib, The language looks very odd to me.  Sort of arabic ish but I don't think it is arabic.  Lemme see if I can screenshot it for you (no other website appears to do this)
[15:56] <Fike> kk
[15:56] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with transmission? it stopped working?
[15:56] <cablop> LAcan compdoc i'm testing copying 27 GB to the file server, but requesting them in the file server, if it works maybe it is an ubuntu problem, not a nic one
[15:56] <Fike> I used to be regg'd here before, can't remember my nick :P
[15:56] <LAcan> cablop, i doubt that very much.. noth machines are running ubuntu...? only one has the problem...
[15:57] <aureianimus> i'm trying to create a shortcut with gconf-editor. i've got the full path, but the shortcut is not working, any ideas?
[15:57] <compdoc> cablop, if you havent installed a lot of drivers by hand, or messed with the OS much, then its likely a hardware issue
[15:57] <cablop> LAcan well, but hardware is different, maybe a driver problem on that machine or something,
[15:58] <IdleOne> What is the command to list installed kernels?
[15:58] <xdev2> hi....unable to login to linux mint server through xchat....help please
[15:58] <edbian> jrib, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/screenshotgq.png/  I don't know what language it is
[15:58] <jrib> IdleOne: aptitude search '~i~nlinux-image'   would work if you have aptitude
[15:58] <BlouBlou> IdleOne: sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[15:58] <IdleOne> thank you jrib and BlouBlou
[15:58] <cablop> IdleOne try checking via aptitude or synaptic and check the linux-image s
[15:58] <jrib> edbian: I found http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=69784 and http://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75940 which seem to explain language settings for gmail and google docs respectively, check if any of them are set to the wrong thing?
[15:58] <LAcan> cablop, i doubt it, you likely have a bad NIC.. the easiest troubleshoot is replacing the NIC... you prolly have an extra handy somewhere, or u can buy one for $15
[15:58] <IdleOne> thank you cablop
[15:58] <ErezCohen> hey all, is there a way to look (open with nano or whatever) at a file while it is in a tar archive file?
[15:59] <lonejack> hi, I'm trying ubuntu one. I choosen one folder-> syncro ub-one-> now I can see the structure under my account from browser(one folder and subfolders) but no files inside....
[15:59] <ErezCohen> just want to look at the content, not install it
[15:59] <GeekShadow> hello
[15:59] <GeekShadow> I'm looking for a tech documentation of the banshee applet on natty
[15:59] <LAcan> edbian, i had this problem before.. your google returns the correct rseuslts but all the lunks are in cyrillic or something ya?
[15:59] <jrib> edbian: this one seems most general: http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=32047
[15:59] <cablop> LAcan: yes this is m,y thought, but if it is a linux problem , buying a new nic won't help, but, you seems to be right, i remembered we reinstalled ubuntu on the file system again...
[16:00] <edbian> LAcan, The results are english.  The images videos etc etc is cryllic
[16:00] <cablop> LAcan, i can replace that board with another exactly equal board xD
[16:00] <LAcan> edbian, ya i did eventually fix it but I dont remember how...
[16:00] <edbian> LAcan, hahahah, that's not very helpful
[16:00] <LAcan> lol i know right
[16:00] <aureianimus> cablop, found it, needed to enable compiz "commands" plugin
[16:00] <zgr> hey guys is it possible to have 3d accel in vmware's windows guest with radeon driver (not fglrx)?
[16:00] <aureianimus> thanks anyway :)
[16:00] <LAcan> edbian, I think i went into my google account and went thru the settings and deapplied then reapplied english
[16:01] <edbian> LAcan, That's the thing.  I'm not logged in.
[16:01] <jrib> edbian: good be in a cookie
[16:01] <LAcan> edbian, did u recently switch to using HTTPS always for google?
[16:01] <jrib> s/good/could  (weird)
[16:01] <edbian> LAcan, no... I'll just delete my cookies
[16:03] <cablop> Lacan i have another thought... could it be my client samba system is doing something bad?
[16:03] <LAcan> cablop, i gave u my advice man. i cant guess at the rest
[16:04] <cablop> LAcan: right, thanks :)
[16:04] <zgr> anybody has working guest 3d accel with vmware and radeon drivers?
[16:05] <edbian> jrib, That link makes no sense.  There is no gear icon.  Is it for chrome?
[16:11] <edbian> jrib, cleared firefox cookies.  no luck
[16:14] <aureianimus> where can i set the options with which the kernel is booted?
[16:15] <BlouBlou> aureianimus: select manually when ubuntu boots
[16:15] <teknowill> aureianimus: grub customizer
[16:15] <oCean> aureianimus: edit /etc/default/grub (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT) and run sudo update-grub
[16:16] <edbian> jrib, Any more ideas? Do you recognize the language?
[16:16] <hongry_> good morning folks
[16:16] <aureianimus> thanks
[16:16] <BlouBlou> aureianimus: more info here; http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-change-grub-2-default-timeout.html
firstly set the hidden_timeout=more than 0 as by default it is zero then u will get ur grub screen
[16:16] <fxhp> Hey all, I purchased some new hardware and I'm having trouble with ethernet acting REALLY slow, (10mbsp) I'm not sure why.  I dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 11.04 .   Any suggestions?
[16:16] <diaoer> good moring hongry_
[16:16] <jrib> edbian: I don't; I don't know.  See if it happens with a different browser or with a new user to rule out a configuration issue
[16:17] <edbian> jrib, good idea
[16:17] <teknowill> aureianimus: https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[16:17] <hongry_> I am trying to make a logitech orb webcam to work with my ubuntu 11.04 rig.  I installed cheese, but it is not detecting the cam.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to make this cam work?
[16:19] <bluebomber> How do you launch multiple instances of a program from the Unity toolbar?
[16:19] <edbian> jrib, chromium does not do it
[16:19] <edbian> jrib, interesting
[16:20] <R3ku> Ohai.
[16:20] <jrib> edbian: try renaming ~/.mozilla just for troubleshooting purposes
[16:21] <R3ku> I'm having a problem with wireless... When I'm at home, I turn off wireless, but now I'm in a cafe and want to use it - but ubuntu doesn't detect any network interfaces.... cat /etc/network/interfaces returns just "auto lo, iface lo inet loopback"
[16:21] <R3ku> How can one start wireless in the terminal/
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> R3ku: with Avahi
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> R3ku: try sudo /etc/init.d/Avahi start
[16:22] <R3ku> MonkeyDust: Thanks, will do.
[16:22] <edbian> jrib, moving .mozilla to .mozillaback  fixed the issue as well.  Now I get to dig around my .mozilla folder
[16:22] <R3ku> MonkeyDust: I get only "command not found"
[16:22] <jrib> edbian: yeah, since you cleared cookies, maybe explore about:config a bit
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> R3ku: try avahi, not Avahi
[16:23] <edbian> jrib, yeah.   Thanks
[16:23] <fxhp> Hey all, I purchased some new hardware (MSI P67A-C43 1155 Intel P67 mobo) and I'm having trouble with ethernet acting REALLY slow, (10mbsp) I'm not sure why.  I dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 11.04. Any suggestions?
[16:25] <R3ku> MonkeyDust: here's avahi-daemon only, i tried it but the command was refused - I was told to "use the service utility : service avahi-daemon start" - did that, still didn't work ; "rejected send message"
[16:26] <bluebomber> Any Unity toolbar/dock pros here?
[16:26] <Bookman> how do you convert a .raw image to a .iso image?
[16:27] <bluebomber> Err, "launcher" I should say.
[16:27] <ututu> R3ku, network manager should be fine instead of the  terminal
[16:27] <Samo502> bluebomber: I know some things about it
[16:28] <bluebomber> Samo502, how do you launch multiple program instances via clicking?
[16:28] <biojudgement> anyone know where i can get bitch x
[16:29] <teknowill> Bookman: i think you could just change the extention or get a mounter/burnner that support .raw the only differance could be the header with maybe extra file structure info
[16:29] <Samo502> bluebomber: I haven't really figured that out myself, other than using a normal shortcut or searching for it from the bar and clicking
[16:30] <Bookman> teknowill, yeah, just changing the extension does not work.  I don't want to burn it.  I want to use the file in VirturalBox
[16:30] <hittt> what is 'frameworkd'? why does it keep taking 90% of CPU so i have to kill it?
[16:31] <amin4> what is the best irc application to use in without X enviroment via terminal????
[16:31] <Abhijit> !info frameworkd
[16:31] <Abhijit> amin4, irssi
[16:31] <teage> To get rid of the log in screen, Is it just a matter of deleting gdm? Or is there more to it then that? And also, If I get rid of log in screen will i be logging in via command line?
[16:31] <teknowill> Bookman: you could mount the .raw to a folder in linux, and mount the folder in vbox
[16:31] <dsadssd> hhi
[16:32] <dsadssd> i se xubuntu
[16:32] <dsadssd> i use xubuntu
[16:32] <Abhijit> teage, to get rid of login screen just enable dont ask password on startup option
[16:32] <teage> hmmm, think i need to retype that
[16:32] <Samo502> bluebomber: i don't know, i'm waiting on a torrent in windows at the moment so I can't try anything
[16:32] <muneeb> i'm getting this error.. "cnijfilter-common:i386 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1)." while trying to install one of the deb package
[16:32] <cablop> what's your recommendations of a sensor applet?
[16:32] <teage> abhijit, my whole question did not show, I will retype
[16:33] <Abhijit> cablop, lm-sensors and acpi
[16:33] <dsadssd> i use xubuntu
[16:33] <Abhijit> hi dsadssd welcome. just ask your question to channel in general. with details in one line.
[16:33] <socomm> I'm having problems with UBUNTU 11 - dual screens.
[16:33] <muneeb> i think libc6 is already installed still i'm getting the error
[16:33] <LAcan> guys I have a weird bug when using RDP.. sometimes my terminal windows will like.. lose a color?.. like all the text of one color (white) will disappear or be the same as the background color?
[16:34] <teage> To get rid of log in screen will i have to delete gdm, Does that mean logging in via command too? which is what i want.
[16:34] <socomm> For some reason whenever i use composite one of the screens is black - but i can see the pointer on that screen.
[16:34] <dsadssd> Abhijit: do i have a question ?
[16:34] <socomm> Anyone have similar problem?
[16:34] <R3ku> Network tools doesn't have a button or something for activating wlan0
[16:34] <cablop> Abhijit: acpi?
[16:34] <Abhijit> dsadssd, do you have a question?
[16:34] <cablop> Abhijit: acpi? i mean how to use that acpi on ubuntu
[16:34] <Abhijit> cablop, lm-sensors
[16:34] <socomm> Is this right place for ubuntu 11?
[16:34]  * LAcan Duals Screens on 11.04 are very buggy. Revert to 10.04 LTS for now.
[16:34] <Abhijit> cablop, just type acpi -v or -a somethingin terminal
[16:35] <Abhijit> socomm, upto natty yes it is
[16:35] <cablop> thanks Abhijit
[16:35] <Abhijit> dsadssd, do you have any xubuntu/ubuntu question?
[16:35] <muneeb> anyone?? i'm getting this error.. "cnijfilter-common:i386 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1)." while trying to install one of the deb package
[16:35] <R3ku> doing "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" just returns an error. I should mention that this problem happens to me all the time - if I disable wirless, and then disconnect from wired network before enabling it again, it won't work until I plug in to a wired network and restart.
[16:35] <dsadssd> Abhijit: i need help
[16:35] <socomm> How can I revert to 10.04? Is it even possible?
[16:35] <Abhijit> !ask | dsadssd
[16:35] <socomm> I'd rather not have to re-install.
[16:36] <Abhijit> socomm, not possible. fresh reinstalltion is only option.
[16:36] <R3ku> Seems kind of a stupid problem but this has been the case between at least two releases..
[16:36] <dsadssd> Abhijit: but first i have to say i use xubuntu because i love gnome 2
[16:36] <LAcan> socomm, or stop using dual monitors...
[16:36] <Abhijit> dsadssd, xubuntu do not use gnome. it uses xfce.
[16:36] <compdoc> socomm, dont like 11.04?
[16:36] <LAcan> R3ku, sounds like a problem with your network and not ubuntu
[16:36] <socomm> LAcan: its a gnome bug - i can use KDE+fluxbox+even know without composite just fine.
[16:36] <LAcan> socomm, ok, so use those instead
[16:36] <dsadssd> Abhijit: yes but i heard ubuntu 11.04 has got unity and i dont like so i took xubuntu
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> !downgrade > socomm
[16:37] <socomm> compdoc: 11 doesn't play nice with dual screens with composite turned on.
[16:37] <dsadssd> Abhijit, is that wrong ?
[16:37] <LAcan> guys I have a weird bug when using RDP.. sometimes my terminal windows will like.. lose a color?.. like all the text of one color (white) will disappear or be the same as the background color?
[16:37] <Abhijit> dsadssd, if you have any ubuntu/xuibuntu question ask straing away.
[16:37] <oCean> dsadssd: this channel is not for chit chat. If you have a support question, ask
[16:37] <dsadssd> !language | ocean
[16:37] <socomm> LAcan: i am, but would like to resolve the issue ...............
[16:38] <LAcan> socomm, file a bu report!
[16:38] <LAcan> bug
[16:38] <cablop> R3ku check what driver are you using for your wireless, i have to switch it to make it works ok in my netbook
[16:38] <oCean> dsadssd: ?
[16:38] <hongry_> how can I detect and install new hardware in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[16:38] <dsadssd> ocean: you said chit, do you mean shit ??
[16:38] <oCean> dsadssd: please stay on topic. No chit chat does not mean that
[16:38] <Sidewinder1> Chit chat?
[16:38] <dsadssd> H OK ;d
[16:38] <cablop> time to go
[16:38] <socomm> dsadssd: chit chat - see google
[16:38] <dsadssd> ah ok :D
[16:38] <Abhijit> hongry_, most main stream hardwares will be automatically detected, installed and ready to use. some cases a little configuration needed. and in few cases need to get drivers manualy.
[16:38] <cablop> see you guys
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> hongry_: in terminal, type lspci
[16:39] <dsadssd> well
[16:39] <dsadssd> i really have a question. i changed to xfce, because dont like unity, i want to now, is that right ?
[16:39] <dsadssd> w
[16:39] <zvacet> dsadssd: it is your choice why should that be wrong
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> dsadssd: u could also choose Ubuntu Classic, no effects
[16:39] <Abhijit> dsadssd, form with question properly with details.
[16:40] <Sidewinder1> !classic > dsadssd
[16:40] <dsadssd> aha
[16:40] <Black> Szukam kogoś z Lubina Polkowic Legnicy Lub Wrocławia do wsólnych projektów
[16:40] <dsadssd> but i heard, classic wont be in to 11.10
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !pl | Black
[16:40] <keith105> i'm having trouble understanding what these two natd and ifw commands do so i can translate to iptables rules in ubuntu. it's just 2 lines but i've pastebin'd instead of flooding ;-) http://pastebin.com/CP0j4Kj6
[16:40] <zvacet> dsadssd_: it will be gnome3
[16:41] <dsadssd> zvacet: gnome 3 ?? i thought unity
[16:41] <Samo502> zvacet: so unity isn't a permanent thing then?
[16:41] <zvacet> dsadssd: choice betrween unity and gnome3
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> no Unity anymore in 11.10?
[16:41] <IdleOne> zvacet: that is not right. gnome3 will be available in 11.10 but the default will still be Unity
[16:41] <tensorpudding> no, unity will be default in 11.10
[16:41] <tensorpudding> and gnome 2 will be gone
[16:41] <dsadssd> i hate gnome3 too
[16:41] <zvacet> MonkeyDust: of course it will be there better I hope
[16:41] <tensorpudding> and gnome 3 will possibly be available in packages
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> ok
[16:42] <tensorpudding> gnome 2 will be completely gone, for sure
[16:42] <tensorpudding> no more classic
[16:42] <dsadssd> yes
[16:42] <Sidewinder1> shame
[16:42] <dsadssd> thats my problem !!!!
[16:42] <oCean> dsadssd: if you just came here to rant, you're in the wrong channel.
[16:42] <dsadssd> e
[16:42] <zvacet> IdleOne: maybe my answer was not straight but I know it will be unity in 11.10
[16:43] <Shadow-Moses> boo
[16:43] <tensorpudding> it's probably not possible to co-maintain gnome 3 and gnome 2, and if it were, it'd be pretty massive
[16:43] <tensorpudding> gnome 3 has a gnome 2 fallback though
[16:43] <dsadssd> i said that all the time
[16:43] <dsadssd> but nobody said that
[16:43] <LAcan> guys I have a weird bug when using RDP.. sometimes my terminal windows will like.. lose a color?.. like all the text of one color (white) will disappear or be the same as the background color? ocean jrib
[16:43] <tensorpudding> this is only what i read though, i've not used gnome 3
[16:44] <dsadssd> what do you use tensorpudding
[16:44] <tensorpudding> unity, ofc
[16:44] <dsadssd> ok
[16:44] <Samo502> looking at the gnome 3 website, it looks EXACTLY like Unity
[16:47] <muneeb> can anyone tell me is the default directory structure in Natty changed?
[16:48] <Samo502> muneeb: what do you mean?
[16:48] <Samo502> muneeb: like are the basic files in the same general places?
[16:49] <muneeb> Samo502, i'm trying to install one of printer drivers which used to get install.. but in Natty it's giving me error as libc6 not found
[16:49] <muneeb> Samo502, but it's there
[16:50] <muneeb> Samo502, scangearmp-mx320series:i386 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1).
[16:50] <Samo502> muneeb: have you tried reinstalling it(if possible, i've never heard of libc6)
[16:51] <Henriquez> hello everyone! i just have a problem with a reverse proxy. I edited my host file to containe the ip adresses of the servers within my lan and i created a ProxyPassReverse and a Proxy pass entry in my apache2.conf. When i try to access mu wesite or subdomain (webmail|) it says "You don't have permission to access / on this server."
[16:51] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[16:52] <derbbre> Got an md question. An installer I used included the thumb drive I was installing from as a member of an md raid1 array (well, three on them). I've 'removed' the USB drive from the array, but its remnants are still in the mdadm.conf file. Can I just edit the mdadm.conf file and reboot and the drive will be gone or do I need to issue a command or two?
[16:52] <derbbre> The mdadm.conf file uses 'DEVICE partitions' rather than listing each device.
[16:52] <muneeb> Samo502, i tried.. but it's not getting installed.. but when i upgraded through Net from 10.10 to 11.04 it worked.. but i messed up yesterday and had to install from CD.. now it's not getting installed
[16:52] <Shwaiil> Q: this is happening lots of times. I finished installing a app trough ubuntu software center and the app doesnt show up on Applications menu. Not even in menu options (sometimes I just go there and find new apps, but no in this case). The App is called VIM. Is there something I can do ? Thakns
[16:53] <Samo502> muneeb: was it a full reinstall like uninstall then purge and reinstall?
[16:53] <zvacet> muneeb: so that is not just that package do you have problems install anything else
[16:53] <xangua> Shwaiil: run it on terminal
[16:54] <muneeb> Samo502, it's not in Repo. so i have to manually install that package for printer
[16:54] <muneeb> zvacet, no.. i don't have problem installing from repos
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Shwaiil: vim is terminal command
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Shwaiil: vim is a terminal command
[16:54] <Shwaiil> MonkeyDust, i've installed gVim
[16:54] <Shwaiil> xangua, tks for looking
[16:55] <Samo502> muneeb: past that i dunno, i've never had to do anything like that
[16:55] <zvacet> muneeb: libc6 is in synaptic I just checked
[16:56] <muneeb> zvacet, i have it installed.. but it's not finding it.. the deb package i want to install
[16:56] <edbian> I have a machine here.  nobilis laptop.  When I boot Ubuntu 10.04 on it the system load is over 1 and things are generally unresponsive.  windows xp works fine on it.  Ideas?
[16:56] <Samo502> edbian: does the machine meet ubuntu's system requirements?
[16:57] <edbian> Samo502, yeah def
[16:57] <dsadssd> what system for produtive use for me ?
[16:57] <edbian> Samo502, pentium 4, 1 Gb of ram
[16:57] <zvacet> muneeb: this is just a guess but maybe you need libc6-dev
[16:57] <Samo502> edbian: also if it's a livecd that could cause similar issues
[16:58] <edbian> Samo502, not a live CD
[16:58] <dsadssd> what system for produtive use for me ?
[16:58] <edbian> Samo502, well, booting the live CD right now.  It doesn't seem slower than normal right now.  It's still at the loading screen
[16:58] <muneeb> zvacet, i have it that too
[16:58] <nit-wit> edbian, how does a live cd run?
[16:58] <edbian> nit-wit, so far so good
[16:58] <edbian> still at the loading screen
[16:58] <dsadssd> what system for produtive use for me ?
[16:59] <Samo502> edbian: my reason for asking is, if i'm not mistaken livecds load things into RAM instead of the HDD
[16:59] <DrHalan> i need some help setting up a bzr server on a remote machine...where should i go?
[16:59] <muneeb> zvacet, plus i have ia32-libs.. which gives me libc6-i386
[16:59] <LAcan> can we boot dsadssd ... hes not asking anything useful
[16:59] <Samo502> edbian: but if a livecd shows similar behaviour it can give a few ideas
[16:59] <edbian> Samo502, yeah.  I'm waiting for it
[16:59] <zvacet> muneeb : in terminal sudo dpkg -i <drivername> do you get any errors and witch ones
[16:59] <nit-wit> edbian, the boot Ubuntu=install that is unresponsive correct?
[17:00] <Samo502> nit-wit: you're correct
[17:00] <edbian> nit-wit, the installed ubuntu yes
[17:00] <edbian> it doesn't boot slow
[17:00] <muneeb> zvacet,  just a sec i'll paste it
[17:00] <edbian> It is slow / unreponsive after it's started
[17:00] <edbian> for example, the wired mouse no longer works
[17:00] <edbian> and typing things at the keyboard freaks after I've pressed one button
[17:00] <muneeb> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/607453/
[17:01] <edbian> I switched to tty1 and it said 'system log surpressed due to load over 1'
[17:01] <nit-wit> edbian, hard to say but I have had bad installs hardly ever though, hope you get it figured out.;)
[17:01] <muneeb> zvacet, that used to work on 10.10
[17:01] <edbian> nit-wit, last time I booted the machine it was fine but that was 3 months ago
[17:01] <ankit> how do i kill a xserver running on ctrl-alt-f8
[17:01] <nit-wit> hard to say for me anyway.;)
[17:02] <zvacet> muneeb: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:02] <nit-wit> edbian, so this is not a fresh installl it ran okay before?
[17:02] <Samo502> edbian: i'm stumped as well, because it sounds like an issue with not good enough hardware but that doesn't seem to be the case, maybe you have something running on startup eating tons of memory?
[17:02] <TiCaf> hello help aicrack please
[17:02] <nit-wit> TiCaf, not really a channel topic but
[17:02] <edbian> nit-wit, yes
[17:02] <TiCaf> ok
[17:03] <ankit> how do i kill a xserver running on ctrl-alt-f8?
[17:03] <edbian> I'm thinking the hardware is going
[17:03] <edbian> ankit, killall Xorg
[17:03] <ankit> i have two running,i want kill one
[17:03] <edbian> ankit, oh, that makes it harder
[17:03] <muneeb> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/607454/
[17:03] <edbian> ankit, look in ps -e and kill the one with the higher pid
[17:03] <muneeb> zvacet, now what
[17:04] <nit-wit> TiCaf, not trying to stop you just preparing you for a official ubbotu warning you never know
[17:04] <Sidewinder1> nit-wit: Sorry I didn't think of that nick first. :-(
[17:04] <m3asmi> when I open any video my session logout !!!!
[17:04] <zvacet> muneeb: did you checked (in synaptic or elsewhere) if you have those dependencies installed if not install them
[17:04] <Sidewinder1> I love it... I know, OT.
[17:05] <nit-wit> Sidewinder1, I thought knit-wit a bit to self aggrandizing, this one is more accurate.;)
[17:05] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[17:05] <nit-wit> I'm only funny in my own mind,
[17:05] <muneeb> zvacet, but why it's showing error for libc6, libgimp2 , ibstdc++6 i have checked it i have those
[17:06] <Sidewinder1> My advice is worth exactly what I charge for it.
[17:06] <muppy> I can not run Evolution setup on my netbook. I can not see the buttons, they are off the screen and maximizing the window results in the window moving up and down whenever I click on a button. I am going insane. What is the solutino?
[17:06] <zvacet> muneeb: I really don´t know  :(
[17:07] <muneeb> zvacet, okay.. let it be.. i'll reinstall 10.10 then :(
[17:07] <ankit> edbian, thanks dude
[17:07] <zvacet> muneeb: I have no experience with 64 bit ubuntu
[17:08] <muppy> Anybody?
[17:08] <lnxten> anybody give an Idea to log connectivity failure with single webserver placed at remote location? I need lightweight. Bash or perl script is preferable
[17:08] <muneeb> zvacet, np.. thanks for trying to help me though..
[17:09] <LarsTorbenK> hi
[17:09] <LarsTorbenK> hehe
[17:09] <nit-wit> LarsTorbenK, whats up
[17:09] <LarsTorbenK> all right ;D
[17:09] <LarsTorbenK> :D
[17:09] <zvacet> muneeb: I´m sure you will find 64 users here and get help you need  :)
[17:10] <nit-wit> LarsTorbenK, are you giggling in anticipation.;)
[17:10] <LarsTorbenK> munbee: whats wrong
[17:10] <LarsTorbenK> anticipation ?
[17:11] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm using the openjdk java, whats the path to its excutable, I need it for an installer...
[17:11] <LarsTorbenK> Lcawte? gnome 64 bit ?
[17:11] <angheloko> i'm on 64bit... just upgraded to natty and now i have a lot of residual configs that i cannot remove via synaptic or apt for whatever reasons :/
[17:11] <fxhp> I'm getting TONS of dropped RX packets, any hints?
[17:11] <blanju> hello
[17:12] <blanju> join
[17:12] <Lcawte> LarsTorbenK: Unity 2D 32bit I think..
[17:12] <LarsTorbenK> ok
[17:12] <LarsTorbenK> hm
[17:12] <blanju> join [~user@185.205.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es]
[17:13] <blanju> how to i join a channel
[17:13] <blanju> i am new to this
[17:13] <LarsTorbenK> type
[17:13] <LarsTorbenK>  /join #channelname
[17:13] <LarsTorbenK> e
[17:13] <FloodBot1> LarsTorbenK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <blanju> thanks
[17:13] <root__> je suis francais
[17:13] <ojay> im making a desktop launcher what starts terminal script. But when i press enter it exits and doesnt continue my script :(
[17:14] <ojay> can someone help me with this
[17:14] <angheloko> @Lcawte what does update-java-alternatives say?
[17:14] <blanju> i need information about setup linux server as a wireless access point can you recomment a channel
[17:14] <user102> http://dumpt.com/img/files/9pu2289f923udxy0gfsm.png  <- Is this bug fixed already? I'm posting everywhere (to >10 000 of viewers) that 3d on Ubuntu doesn't work on NVidia graphics cards. "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[17:16] <user102> And this bug delays a 3d game port from working on linux.  It happens on GeForce 7025.
[17:16] <zak_> hi
[17:16] <zak_> anyone using Giver here ?i have some trouble with it
[17:17] <OerHeks> user102 i do use the nvidia 7025, and the 173 driver works for me.
[17:17] <mattypants`> I installed phpmyadmin on ubuntu and ran sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www - the phpmyadmin file was created in my www dir, but I get permission denied, new to linux, what do I need to do with that file
[17:17] <blanju> access point setup please??
[17:18] <OerHeks> user102 the label [current]  is not propariate
[17:18] <angheloko> @mattypants... from what i know u don't need to symlink anything.. just go directly to localhost/phpmyadmin
[17:18] <mattypants`> angheloko, I get 404
[17:19] <muppy> I can not run Evolution setup on my netbook. The buttons are off the screen. Any idea?
[17:19] <angheloko> @mattypants how about 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin?
[17:19] <cgroza> muppy, Thunderbird
[17:19] <user102> OerHeks: so how can i fix? tips from google don't help. (reinstalling all graphics packages). i have Ubuntu 11.04.
[17:19] <mattypants`> angheloko, same thing
[17:20] <angheloko> @mattypants did u installed phpmyadmin via apt-get?
[17:20] <mattypants`> angheloko, I did, yes
[17:20] <OerHeks> user102 disable this driver, and see if the 173 comes available
[17:21] <LarsTorbenK> can somebody give me an suggestion
[17:21] <mattypants`> angheloko, I ran sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 phpmyadmin
[17:21] <muppy> I can not run Evolution setup on my netbook. The buttons are off the screen. Any idea?
[17:21] <LarsTorbenK> can i get help
[17:21] <zak_> anyone using Giver here ?i have some trouble with it
[17:22] <xangua> muppy: press Alt whle moving it
[17:22] <LarsTorbenK> can somebody give me an suggestion
[17:22] <LarsTorbenK>  
[17:22] <angheloko> @mattypants hv u tried sudo tasksel?
[17:22] <angheloko> to install lamp?
[17:23] <erkan^> is sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 true?
[17:23] <LarsTorbenK> no
[17:23] <mattypants`> angheloko, I havent, so new to linux I dont know what that is
[17:23] <LarsTorbenK> o
[17:23] <erkan^> why no, LarsTorbenK ?
[17:23] <LarsTorbenK> o
[17:23] <LarsTorbenK> gnome 3 ppa is unstable
[17:23] <user102> OerHeks: problem is reproducible when reinstalling system so there should be a workaround-tutorial for this particular system (Ubuntu 11.04 with GeForce 7025).
[17:23] <erkan^> ow ok
[17:23] <LarsTorbenK> and very dangerous with ubuntu
[17:23] <erkan^> abh
[17:23] <LarsTorbenK> can somebody give me an suggestion
[17:24] <angheloko> @mattypants i'm thinking ur apache, php, mysql was not config correctly... after installing apache, php and mysql, did u get into some config screen?
[17:24] <mattypants`> something that confuses me: http://localhost/phpMyAdmin give me permission denied, while http://localhost/phpmyadmin gives me a 404, I didnt know urls were cse sensitive
[17:24] <biojudgement> where can i find bitch x at ?
[17:24] <mattypants`> angheloko, apache and php work
[17:24] <zc00gii> how do I remove the stuff on the top left corner? the mail sign, chat stuff...
[17:25] <slimm609> only after the  hostname is case-sensitive matty
[17:25] <mattypants`> slimm609,  ah k
[17:26] <LarsTorbenK> hello ?
[17:26] <OerHeks> user102, you can try, login in with 'classic' gnome and see if you can change driver
[17:26] <clakes> meh... i so don't know whether to upgrade to the natty
[17:26] <angheloko> @mattypants.. strange.. can u see what /etc/apache2/sites-available have?
[17:26] <OerHeks> LarsTorbenK, i know,  gnome3 ppa is unstable.
[17:26] <clakes> will it turn from being natty to being naughty?
[17:27] <LarsTorbenK> a question
[17:27] <alfe> first timer here
[17:27] <alfe> do i just ask away?
[17:27] <mattypants`> angheloko, yes I made added a site that works aswell
[17:28] <mattypants`> -made
[17:28] <clakes> natty or unnatty?  i'm so much of a happy (and curious) meerkat user... coupla feedback?
[17:28] <alfe> i need help with opengl
[17:28] <LarsTorbenK> i have a question
[17:28] <LarsTorbenK>  
[17:29] <LarsTorbenK>  
[17:29] <mattypants`> I like natty without the Unity gui
[17:29] <mattypants`> I really dont like the unity gui
[17:29] <LarsTorbenK> my pc is a bit trashed and some files are modified by me and so on and i have two desktop environments
[17:29] <cousin_mario> hello
[17:29] <LarsTorbenK> should i reinstall it ?
[17:29] <clakes> hm... yeah, unity looks like a useless eye-candy to me
[17:29] <anadon> hey, how do I start on a audio networking protocol? Offhand, I think that I'm thinking of something at level 2 of the OSI model...I'll double check here while waiting.
[17:30] <smw> mattypants`, unity is the great divider. I haven't upgraded yet ;-)
[17:30] <cousin_mario> Fontsizes get reset at every login, is this normal? (kubuntu 11.04/64 bit)
[17:30] <LarsTorbenK> my pc is a bit trashed and some files are modified by me and so on and i have two desktop environments
[17:30] <LarsTorbenK> should i reinstall it ?
[17:30] <angheloko> @mattypants... what do u have in ur /etc/apache2/sites-available/default? do u have Alias /doc/ "/usr/share/doc/" in it?
[17:30] <leafar> are redraw and drawing bugs a known issue for Gnome3 on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[17:31] <praveen> Hello, I'm currently using ubuntu 11.04, I'm having a small problem
[17:31] <alfe> can anyone help me with opengl?
[17:32] <angheloko> @clakes, i just upgraded my mav to natty today and got welcomed with a blinking cursor.. to be fair, my mav was a bare installation, no gnome, just fluxbox
[17:32] <Lofde_> I am having a problem
[17:32] <androidbruce> hey guys, is it possible to uninstall windows applications while booted within Ubuntu?
[17:32] <Lofde_> can someone please assist....
[17:32] <anadon> really?
[17:32] <anadon> @ lofde what?
[17:32] <Lofde_> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed.. i installed LAMP ... and i installed a vsftpd
[17:32] <androidbruce> I dual boot and my other drive has windows, and I would like to perform maintenance/cleanup on windows
[17:32] <LarsTorbenK> my pc is a bit trashed and some files are modified by me and so on and i have two desktop environments
[17:32] <LarsTorbenK> should i reinstall it ?
[17:32] <Lofde_> i want a user to log in through ftp.. and be able to edit files in /var/www through ftp...
[17:32] <praveen> can some one help me with screen display brightness issue
[17:32] <anadon> @ lofde, also, per custom, never come in saying you have a problem, tell people the issue
[17:32] <Lofde_> i bind the directory /var/www to /home/user/www
[17:33] <mathews> praveen: yeah
[17:33] <zak_> anyone using Giver here ?i have some trouble with it
[17:33] <LarsTorbenK> my pc is a bit trashed and some files are modified by me and so on and i have two desktop environments
[17:33] <mattypants`> angheloko, Alias /doc/ "/usr/share/doc/" is there
[17:33] <Lofde_> the /var/www  is chown to the user.. and the file per are set to 777
[17:33] <LarsTorbenK> should i reinstall it ?
[17:33] <tjiggi_fo> LarsTorbenK, you're not the real LarsTorben, you're a troll so go somewhere else
[17:33] <Lofde_> and i ftp... and i cannot delete a file ... 550 permission denied
[17:33] <clakes> ugh... fluxbox looks great
[17:33] <praveen> mathews: I'm unable to reduce the screen brightness ... using the fn+f7 and fn+f8 key ...
[17:33] <anadon> @ lofde, so you want another user to be able to be root and access files through ftp and change them?  Bad idea.
[17:33] <angheloko> @mattypants ok.. go to /usr/share/doc.. there should be a symlink to phpmyadmin in there
[17:34] <shantanu> hi friends, need a help on using 'wine'
[17:34] <anadon> @ lofde, i'm pretty sure ftp is intended mainly for read only use anyways
[17:34] <mathews> praveen: u select the keyboard from application and select the particular brand of ur keyboard
[17:34] <teddyroosebelt> androidbruce, i believe you can if you run the uninstall for each program under wine
[17:35] <mathews> praveen: keyboard/layouts/keyboard model
[17:35] <LarsTorbenK> NOBODY !!
[17:35] <LarsTorbenK> helps me
[17:35] <LarsTorbenK> why
[17:35] <LarsTorbenK> y
[17:35] <FloodBot1> LarsTorbenK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <anadon> @ lofde, what you might want to do is use openssh.  Now, you're going to have to lock ssh like hanibal lecture, but it will allow you to have other users access the fs securely and as root
[17:36] <praveen> done ...
[17:36] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: explain ur problems in a manner somebody could understand
[17:36] <mattypants> angheloko, there a phpmyadmin folder in there, I dont see a symlink though
[17:36] <praveen> but no change ... When I press the fn+f7 to reduce the brightness, I get the indication of brightness reduction .. but nothing happens ...
[17:36] <anadon> @ lofde, anything else?
[17:37] <angheloko> @mattypants hmm.. go to /etc/apache2/conf.d
[17:37] <LarsTorbenK> mathews my question is should i reinstall my pc
[17:37] <zc00gii> how do I remove stuff from the top left corner in unity?
[17:37] <praveen> I tried even with the power management ... no luck there to
[17:37] <angheloko> @mattypants there should be conf file there for phpmyadmin
[17:37] <anadon> hey, how do I start on a audio networking protocol? Offhand, I think that I'm thinking of something at level 2 of the OSI model...I'll double check here while waiting.
[17:37] <mathews> praveen: could u see the model of ur keyboard in it
[17:37] <BluesKaj> LarsTorbenK, what's wrong with the present installation?
[17:38] <Lofde_> anadon ... i have set the user up a 'admin' user  the folder /var/www i did a chown from root to the user
[17:38] <LarsTorbenK> sa i already said, it works, but it is bit trashed and i modified some files and so on there are two desktop enviromments
[17:38] <LarsTorbenK> environments
[17:38] <mattypants> angheloko, not in /etc/apache2/conf.d
[17:38] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: we dont know what release u installed
[17:38] <LarsTorbenK> natty ubuntu
[17:38] <german> is it possible to add thunderbird to the notification area (tray icon) in unity? I mean I'm not getting any notifications about new messages and such, with ubuntu classic I could see the tray icon in the notification area and using plugins I could see the number of unread messages
[17:38] <praveen> yeah
[17:38] <Lofde_> this system i am not super worried about security...
[17:38] <Lofde_> i want the ftp user to have rights to upload and write etc
[17:39] <Lofde_> full permissions
[17:39] <mathews> praveen: run the additional drivers and install any recommended and try
[17:39] <angheloko> @mattypants ok.. symlink /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf to /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[17:40] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: currently what problem u facing?
[17:40] <angheloko> @mattypants assuming u have /etc/phpmyadmin
[17:40] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, ssh is till your best bet it uses sftp between pcs , and copy with scp
[17:40] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: sa i already said, it works, but it is bit trashed and i modified some files and so on there are two desktop environments
[17:40] <mattypants> angheloko, I do, yes
[17:40] <anadon> Lofde, ftp does not ever allow for uploading data or changing data
[17:40] <mattypants> angheloko, ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[17:40] <mattypants>  correct?
[17:41] <rozander1> hey
[17:41] <anadon> Lofde, ftp only allows clients to download
[17:41] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: i have to say, i need a poductive system. if have got 2 gb of rams and intel dual core e5500
[17:41] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: the desktop u can change by log out and login after selecting the desired desktop from the bottom pop up menu
[17:41] <angheloko> @mattypants yes
[17:41] <BluesKaj> angheloko, the @ doesn't highlight nicks , just type the nick to highlight
[17:41] <Lofde_> this must not be the ftp i remember then heh
[17:41] <rozander1> guys
[17:41] <Lofde_> since when did ftp go soft :(
[17:41] <mattypants> angheloko, permission denied
[17:41] <prx> hi
[17:41] <angheloko> mattypants sorry.. try sudo?
[17:41] <seidos> and dolls
[17:41] <salmon> since i upgraded to natty narwhal any time i try to open my music,doc,video, ect... folders it just pops up and says "could not create the archive, archive type not supported" can someone help me? please
[17:41] <rozander1> is it possible to set an external static ip in ubuntu or can that only be done by my isp
[17:41] <angheloko> BluesKaj, thanks for the tip
[17:41] <mattypants> angheloko, k
[17:41] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: what desktop u installed? gnome 3?
[17:42] <Lofde_> BluesKaj,  do you have a good walkthrough on that
[17:42] <anadon> Lofde, Use ssh or do it yourself, but never have I known ftp to allow uploading.
[17:42] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: first i ubuntu 11.04
[17:42] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: then xfce
[17:42] <seidos> rozander1: you need the static ip given to you from isp, then assign it to a box
[17:42] <BluesKaj> ftp is very insecure , it transmits pws in text form
[17:42] <angheloko> mattypants then do a service apache2 restart
[17:42] <selinuxium> hi all, I am having problems working out how to use my hdmi port on my natty laptop. I am using fglrx atm. | VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9488
[17:42] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, hang on , I'll get the URL
[17:42] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: maybe i clean install ?
[17:43] <mattypants> angheloko, restarted, will check url now
[17:43] <seidos> so never ever transmit sensitive information, like your grocery list, over ftp
[17:43] <zak_> anyone using Giver here ?i have some trouble with it
[17:43] <Lofde_> BluesKaj,  yes the transmissions are not secure.. security isnt a big issue for this project ...but i will try to do it the openssh way :)
[17:43] <Sidewinder1> anadon, FTP will allow uploading, to the best of my knowlege, it's all in the configuration of the server...
[17:43] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: u can uninstall the desktop by terminal
[17:43] <prx> So... after I renamed everything X related in 11.04 and still saw some gfx stuff running (sampling my display useless) i am asking myself whats the first thing being loaded which activates gfx mode (i disabled grub gfx, kms and thus kernel splash, and renamed X) - whats left?
[17:43] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: yes but some /usr/share/icons wrong
[17:43] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: i tried to restore it, it worked too, but am not sure
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-openssh-server-installation-and-configuration/
[17:43] <LarsTorbenK> e
[17:44] <Lofde_> ftp you can upload download rename delete... pretty much every permission except execute
[17:44] <mattypants> angheloko, that worked :) shouldnt that have been done automatically when I installed phpmyadmin?
[17:44] <angheloko> mattypants, great! not sure why it didn't ... i don't remember doing this step before..
[17:45] <rcmaehl> okay how can I force my netbook to go above it's listed recommended resolution of 1024x600
[17:45] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: i tried to restore it, it worked too, but am not sure
[17:45] <salmon> having some archive issues since i switched to n.narwhal. not good at this stuff just yet and i need help
[17:45] <anadon> sidewinder1: Since when?  Well, if it does, it does.  Just that I've never ever seen it, and wikipedia didn't mention it.
[17:45] <magepsycho> my show desktop icon (bottom left corner) disappeared, hoe to show it again?
[17:45] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: i asked, should i clean install, keep as it is
[17:45] <LarsTorbenK> heep as it now
[17:46] <Satan_Inside> hi, where i can find list of apps versions from Ubuntu 10.04.2?
[17:46] <LarsTorbenK> keep as is now
[17:46] <LarsTorbenK> Satan_Inside, dpkg -a
[17:46] <xangua> !panels |  magepsycho
[17:46] <mattypants> so all I had to do was make a symlink fromphpmyadmin's apache.conf to apache2/conf.d' phpmyadmin
[17:46] <Satan_Inside> LarsTorbenK: in the internet... i dont have 10.04.2
[17:47] <angheloko> mattypants, pretty much.. i'd avoid symlink-ing to /var/www and stick to virtual dirs instead
[17:47] <magepsycho> hey ubottu .. can you paste the valid command?
[17:47] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: if u face so much problem or u confused and no data loss then clean install is recommended
[17:47] <LarsTorbenK> Satan_Inside,  why is its important to now
[17:47] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: thanks, last question.
[17:47] <Lofde_> sftp and ssh seem to work just as well.. thanks all
[17:48] <andycc> magepsycho, ubottu is a bot.
[17:48] <Satan_Inside> LarsTorbenK: becouse i need to know what wersion of apps are in 10.04.2
[17:48] <OerHeks> Satan_Inside, apps list is same as 10.04
[17:48] <mattypants> angheloko,  and symlinking to /var/www is what I did originally, correct?
[17:48] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: for productive use, should i take, xubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu 10.04 or ubuntu 10.04
[17:48] <angheloko> mattypants, from what i recall, yes, u mentioned that
[17:48] <mattypants> angheloko, very new linux user here
[17:48] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: I would recommend Ubuntu 10.04
[17:48] <LarsTorbenK> ok ;D
[17:48] <mattypants> angheloko, but I think you knew that ;)
[17:49] <Satan_Inside> OerHeks: i know, but some apps are updated to new wersions and i must know for what versions
[17:49] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: i prefer gnome 2.
[17:49] <xangua> Satan_Inside: latest version of apps before 2010 april
[17:49] <mattypants> angheloko, thanks so much for the help, much appreciated!
[17:49] <angheloko> mattypants, no prob
[17:49] <rcmaehl> okay how can I force my netbook to go above it's listed recommended resolution of 1024x600?
[17:49] <LarsTorbenK> mathews: but it is no longer supported i would change to xfce
[17:49] <magepsycho> To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[17:49] <LarsTorbenK>  
[17:49] <magepsycho> i am confused with the command
[17:50] <xangua> rcmaehl: connect to an external and larger screen
[17:50] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: I am not familiar with xfce so I cant recommend it
[17:50] <rcmaehl> xangua: ... other than that I was able to force it to 1280x1024 on windows
[17:51] <ygor> Hello everybody. i have a issue: i have a ubuntu 11.04 on my acer aspire 4736z. but somehow the monitor of my laptop is not showing. im here now because im conected by HDMI with my samsung tv.  The monitor is not dead because when im on windows the monitor is fine.  can any1 help me?
[17:51] <mattypants> it would be nice if there was a way to make the cli semi-transparent
[17:51] <prx> ygor: does the failsafe mode show something?
[17:51] <mathews> LarsTorbenK: u can install gnome 3 too but will crash unity
[17:51] <rcmaehl> ygor: have you tried recoevery mode?
[17:53] <ygor> rcmaeh1: no i tryed reinstalling with my usb drive, but everytime ubuntu starts, the monitor go black... and its only black when ubuntu starts...just after boot screen
[17:53] <ygor> prx: i did not try failsafe ...
[17:53] <mathews> ygor: did u tried live session
[17:54] <selinuxium> ygor, I am still trying to get my HDMI port to work!  :)
[17:54] <rcmaehl> ssfdre38: ohai
[17:54] <ygor> mathews: yes...i dont know if its a problem with this..because some configs are saved everyime i use the live session from the usb drive
[17:54] <AmberJ> Hello
[17:54] <ssfdre38> hey
[17:54] <ygor> i mean, even with the cd, or with the usb drive, my screen go black when ubuntu starts to boot...
[17:55] <AmberJ> I'm planning to upgrade from alternate install CD...I had read on forums that systems tend to screw up when upgrading from ubuntu alternate CD...Is that right?
[17:55] <mathews> ygor: how u created the USB
[17:56] <ygor> but i can see, when i disconect HDMI that things are on screen, but too dark to see...
[17:56] <rcmaehl> ygor: try adjusting the brightness
[17:56] <AmberJ> Anyone?
[17:56] <Captainkrtek> AmberJ: what is the issue?
[17:57] <AmberJ> This is ubuntu 10.10 install and I'm planning to upgrade to 11.04 using alternate CD
[17:57] <ygor> mathews: i burn the ubuntu 11.04 image into a cd... then using the CD live i created the usb drive by the ubuntu tool itself
[17:57] <Captainkrtek> AmberJ: I can help :-)
[17:57] <mathews> ygor: good,the usb is fresh,right?
[17:57] <ygor> rcmaeh1: yeah i tryed this..but its not a bright issue.. lokks too too dark to see.
[17:57] <Captainkrtek> ygor: you can also use unetbootin
[17:57] <AmberJ> Captainkrtek, didnt upgraded yet....I read on forums that it tends to be weird when upgrading using alternate install...Is that right?
[17:57] <Captainkrtek> AmberJ: it can be, but it should work
[17:57] <Ubuntufreak> I have problem installing Haskell-platform in my Kubuntu 11.04 http://paste.kde.org/67615/ any help ?
[17:58] <ygor> captainkrtek:  yeah but some how did not work.
[17:58] <ygor> mathews: fresh yep.
[17:58] <Captainkrtek> ygor: odd
[17:58] <Captainkrtek> ygor: i host a mirror if you need to DL http://mirror.slashdev.org/ubuntu
[17:58] <mattypants> does sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart do the same thing as sudo service apache2 restart ?
[17:58] <Captainkrtek> mattypants: yes
[17:58] <AmberJ> Captainkrtek, This 10.10 install had repositories from other distros (especially linux mint and pinguyOS)... So, it has bunchload of software installed which is not in official ubuntu repos....Does this needs any special consideration?
[17:58] <Captainkrtek> mattypants: use the latter
[17:58] <ygor> mathews: but weird becase when i boot from the usb drive, after leting my laptop off for a while, configurations like wifi network are still saved..
[17:59] <mattypants> Captainkrtek, k, ty
[17:59] <Captainkrtek> AmberJ: maybe later on
[17:59] <xangua> AmberJ: don't mix repositories
[17:59] <Captainkrtek> but yeah
[17:59] <Captainkrtek> this could get funky
[17:59] <AmberJ> xangua, do you mean that I should comment them out in sources.list?
[17:59] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: can you pastebin or whatever the output of:   apt-cache policy haskell-platform    and:    apt-cache policy ghc6
[17:59] <Captainkrtek> I got to go
[18:00] <mathews> ygor: I am no so exp.to answer,recommend to poet in www.askubuntu.com
[18:00] <AmberJ> xangua, is there any way I can purge (uninstall) packages that are from linux mint etc ?
[18:00] <mathews> ygor: I meant post
[18:00] <xangua> AmberJ: fresh reinstall
[18:01] <ygor> mathews: and another weird stuff is that sometimes when i disconected the HDMI cable, sometimes my screen appears, sometimes dont..but now its common not the appear.
[18:01] <AmberJ> xangua, you mean I should reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[18:01] <ygor> anyway...can be frequency of the monitor and stuff like that?
[18:01] <Captainkrtek> AmberJ: you could remove them in Syaptic
[18:02] <mathews> ygor: look any same issues in Ubuntu launchpad too
[18:02] <Captainkrtek> AmberJ: but I would also reccomend fresh install
[18:02] <rcmaehl> why isn't 11.04 stable
[18:02] <ygor> mathews: ok ! thx 4 ur time buddy. (y)
[18:02] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: it is stable, just bugs still as it is very newly released
[18:02] <seidos> rcmaehl: because programming is hard?
[18:02] <Henriquez> Does anyone know an easy to configure piece of software that can configure  a reverse proxy for   sub domains ?
[18:03] <Henriquez> i can see nginx but that is too much for me :P
[18:03] <mathews> rcmaehl; it is a new release and need all comments and repair
[18:03] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/607469/
[18:03] <rcmaehl> input boxes go out, unity crashes after enabling or disabling ANY compiz option in ccsm, windows move when maximized
[18:04] <rcmaehl> I can name about 24 more
[18:04] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: file bug reports
[18:04] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: but search first
[18:04] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: I have, and they say they're not bugs
[18:04] <rcmaehl> they are ><
[18:04] <Sug> welcome back Captainkrtek
[18:04] <AmberJ> Captainkrtek, xangua in that case, I'll backup my data...then try upgrading...and if it fails, I'll reinstall from scratch.. Thanks :)
[18:04] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: may just be your hardware
[18:04] <Captainkrtek> thanks Sug
[18:04] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: ....
[18:05] <mathews> rcmaehl; a release never get stable unless u report the bugs
[18:05] <Captainkrtek> mathews: +1
[18:05] <Shwaiil> Q: Can I see hidden files like "ls -a" does on terminal, without using terminal in graphical mode ? falder exploring ? Tks
[18:05] <Captainkrtek> Shwaiil: I think so...
[18:05] <rcmaehl> mathews: how cna I report the bugs when all my pcs stop typing in input boxes after like every few words ><
[18:06] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: from another computer?
[18:06] <Ampelbein> Shwaiil: ctrl-H should show hidden files in nautilus
[18:06] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: it seems to be a bug reported here bug id 742052
[18:06] <Shwaiil> I'm on ls I think, and ctrl-h is not showing the hidden files :T
[18:07] <Shwaiil> I mean LTS
[18:07] <Captainkrtek> hi lousygarua, something we can help with?
[18:07] <Shwaiil> ahh refresh and now I'm seeing
[18:07] <mathews> rcmaehl; ur problem somewhat related to graphics driver,pls tru run the additional drivers from system and try
[18:07] <Shwaiil> Ampelbein, tks
[18:08] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: mm, its interesting, it seems to depend on a version that's smaller than, and larger than the available version, at the same time
[18:08] <rcmaehl> ><
[18:08] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: oh, there's already a bug is there
[18:08] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: System Settings > Hardware > Additional Drivers
[18:08] <ThinkT510> bug 742052
[18:08] <hexdump_> Hello all
[18:09] <Captainkrtek> hi usr_ and dumbi anything we can help with?
[18:09] <Captainkrtek> hi hexdump_
[18:09] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: no propietary drivers in use on this system
[18:09] <hexdump_> I have a minor issue here
[18:09] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: yep just now checked in the launchpad, no fixes yet :(
[18:09] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: check for them
[18:09] <Captainkrtek> hexdump_: sure i can try to help
[18:09] <hexdump_> hey there Captainkrtek
[18:09] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: i did
[18:09] <mathews> hexdump: introduction not required here just put ur problem
[18:09] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: what type of video card do you have? do lspci
[18:09] <hexdump_> Okay I'm trying to install LKL linux keylogger and it doesn't seem to be in the repo
[18:09] <hexdump_> Should I modify the sources or just use sudo apt-get update???
[18:10] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: lspci | grep -i video?
[18:10] <Captainkrtek> hexdump_: if its not in your sources youll have to modify it then update
[18:10] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: yeah
[18:10] <Captainkrtek> or vga
[18:10] <hexdump_> I'm wondering what sources I need to add though.
[18:10] <Captainkrtek> hexdump_: check their site
[18:10] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: i'll have a look for a few minutes, stick around for a bit
[18:10] <Captainkrtek> if there is one
[18:10] <mathews> hexdump_: just google ubuntu ppa
[18:11] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)<NEWLINE>00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:11] <hexdump_> okay I'll figure er on out.
[18:11] <hexdump_> Thanks a bunch folks
[18:11] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: sure would wait for the fix
[18:11] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: thanks
[18:11] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: give me a minute please :-)
[18:14] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: try
[18:14] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:glasen/intel-driver
[18:14] <Captainkrtek> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:14] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: can I run that as all one command?
[18:15] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: no
[18:16] <Captainkrtek> well technically yes, but just do it that way :P
[18:16] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: >< why are half the 11.04 repos 404?
[18:16] <Captainkrtek> rcmaehl: I dont know
[18:17] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek: now what
[18:17] <rcmaehl> reboot? restart x? what?
[18:17] <dougb> i'm logged into my machine through SSH, but when i press the up arrow key it prints out ^[[A
[18:18] <dougb> its only for my user account, the root user doesn't do this
[18:18] <mathews> rcmaehl; restart
[18:19] <rcmaehl> mathews: in a bit
[18:19] <dougb> does anyone know how to get it to stop printing ^[[A when i press the up arrow and have it show me the previous command?
[18:20] <rcmaehl> well unity doesn;t crash when changing the compiz options actually, is just the interface gets put below the indicator bar which is pure black
[18:20] <rcmaehl> I think its a layering issue
[18:20] <compdoc> up arrow works on my ssh client
[18:21] <dougb> compdoc, it works for other users too
[18:21] <dougb> just not this specific user
[18:21] <mathews> rcmaehl; yeah, same with my system too,little u can change by changing the theme section
[18:21] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: for what its worth, haskell-platform itself is a metapackage and doesn't contain any important files in and of itself
[18:21] <rcmaehl> oh for anyone using 11.04 you can enable addons such as desktop cube pm me if you want to know how
[18:22] <ullas> hello
[18:22] <Moopz> Hey. I was wondering, is there a way to disable having to run everything as sudo for it to have access to anything? Getting quite annoyed at having to launch my ARM 2 programming suite as sudo because otherwise it can't access the USB.
[18:22] <Captainkrtek> hi temp
[18:22] <Captainkrtek> anything we can help with
[18:22] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: you mean i dont need to have haskell-platform for the development and could just use ghc6 ?
[18:22] <mathews> Moops: ubuntu can run with commands line also
[18:23] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: not as such, it is supposed to install a lot more than ghc6
[18:23] <Moopz> mathews, Not sure I understand
[18:23] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: i am not able to understand ?
[18:24] <Itqan> ok here am i to moron about my problem again
[18:24] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/haskell-platform lists all the packages it is supposed to install
[18:24] <mathews> Moops: ur first post bit confusing
[18:25] <Itqan> anyne who has been able to fix ubuntu 1o series freezing problem
[18:25] <Itqan> im sure thats not a memory issue
[18:25] <prx> does a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 come with sshd enabled?
[18:25] <tntc> prx: no, you have to install the ssh package
[18:25] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek|brb: if this screws up my display I'm coming after you with sass
[18:25] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: if you want a quick and dirty solution you can technically tell apt-get to install all of those
[18:25] <Moopz> mathews, What I mean is, it is annoying that Ubuntu dictates what programs I run can do. If I need a program to have access to my USB, I need to run it as root.
[18:25] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: ok, but when i try to issue the apt-get install command im faced with the dependency error
[18:26] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: won't that bork my developemtn setup and any future updates ?
[18:28] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: well, it shouldn't break anything, and if you ever install anything that conflicts in the future it will remove them automatically, your downside is that if you had installed haskell-platform, you would have eventually been able to remove all of it by doing apt-get autoremove haskell-platform
[18:30] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: oh fine ! then how do i override the dependency issue in the apt-get ?
[18:30] <randomuser> it looks like ive stopped getting messages in /var/log/messages....
[18:30] <rcmaehl> Captainkrtek|brb: ummm it didn't do anything
[18:32] <shutz> ello
[18:32] <shutz> lololol
[18:32] <shutz> ey
[18:32] <shutz> ey
[18:33] <shutz> ello
[18:33] <FloodBot1> shutz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <mamece2> i updated to ubuntu 11.04 . my RTL8187 stop working, can someone help me?
[18:33] <rcmaehl> randomuser: that's b/c it's now using rsyslogd
[18:33] <randomuser> rcmaehl, so everything is spread out in /var/log?
[18:34] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: give me a moment again
[18:34] <rcmaehl> randomuser: hold on
[18:34] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: sure i tried with apt-get -f and -m options but still get the error
[18:38] <randomuser> let me start over; I'm having intermittent wireless connectivity issues, and I suspect the drivers and suspend/resume issues; working on the latter now
[18:39] <trism> randomuser: /var/log/messages is commented out in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf but you can add it back if you wanted it (although it was mostly /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog)
[18:39] <rcmaehl> randomuser: is it a realtek 8192
[18:39] <randomuser> broadcom of some sort, iirc
[18:40] <randomuser> i'm getting some strange behavior trying to forward X apps as well
[18:40] <Itqan> ok i have been facing some really severe freezing problem with my ubutntu 10.10
[18:40] <Itqan> my sys specs are 1 gb ram 1.6 in tel dual core
[18:41] <Moopz> Hey. I was wondering, is there a way to disable having to run everything as sudo for it to have access to anything? Getting quite annoyed at having to launch my ARM 2 programming suite as sudo because otherwise it can't access the USB.
[18:41] <peturi> Hi.
[18:42] <Itqan> i have tried uninstalling all ubuntu one packages but it still problem persist
[18:42] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: your best bet to start with is only install the basic bits, so:    sudo apt-get install ghc6 alex cabal-install happy
[18:42] <mamece2> does anybody here has 11.04 and RTL8187 wireless dongle?
[18:42] <Itqan> can anybody pls help me out
[18:43] <prx> Moopz: usually there is some group which has access to usb, tty and such stuff, your user needs to join that
[18:43] <romankrv> hi. How Can i use global var in my local bash script?
[18:44] <KM0201> mamece2: pretty sure mine is an 8187(it's at home though)... is it not working
[18:44] <Moopz> prx, how do I do that?
[18:44] <helpme_> hello! can someone help me please? i am a complete begginer to ubuntu. i have the 10.10(maverick) live cd. i installed it and upgraded it to 11.04 (natty). i have HP vs 17e monitor which supports resolution upto 1280X1024 Pixels only. after i upgraded, the computer restarted and i got an error saying- " Change Resoultion settings to 1280X1024, input out of range" i guess the default resoultion of natty is higher than my monitor capabi
[18:44] <nicolas> hi shutz
[18:44] <helpme_> of the monitor to fix this. all i have is the live disk. please help!
[18:44] <randomuser> rcmaehl, logs show fairly frequent 'group rekeying' by wpa-supplicant
[18:45] <prx> Moopz: I do not know the exact group for ubuntu, but you do sudo useradd -G {group-name} username
[18:45] <randomuser> helpme_, boot in runlevel 1, move your xorg.conf to force generation of anew one, init 5
[18:45] <KM0201> helpme_: are you getting a grub menu?
[18:45] <muneeb> it seems that in Natty the directory structure for /usr/lib is changed and that is causing me problems while installing my printer's driver. How can i resolve this?
[18:45] <jermaine2k> I am new to ubuntu, any recommdation for the newbie
[18:45] <prx> as root you might cat /etc/groups to see all the available groups, you search for something usb related
[18:46] <Itqan> anyone pls?
[18:46] <LjL> jermaine2k: one, don't install stuff not in the repositories at least before you have a little experience
[18:46] <Itqan> help?
[18:46] <helpme_> sorry guys! i am a complete beginner!
[18:46] <quiescens> Ubuntufreak: your best bet to start with is only install the basic bits, so:    sudo apt-get install ghc6 alex cabal-install happy
[18:46] <robin0800> jermaine2k, use 10.10
[18:46] <ThinkT510> !manual | jermaine2k
[18:46] <mamece2> KM0201 what can we do to get it working? the wireless interface is disabled
[18:46] <KM0201> mamece2: mine works fine...
[18:46] <KM0201> are you using 32 or 64bit
[18:46] <Moopz> prx, alright, I'll look into that. Thanks
[18:46] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: ok would try to install those now
[18:47] <lwizardl> Hello
[18:47] <KM0201> helpme_: i understand you're a beginner, but it was a simpl question, are you getting a grub menu... (where you can select your OS)
[18:47] <mamece2> Km0201 im using 64 bit
[18:47] <KM0201> mamece2: maybe thats it... i use 32
[18:47] <lwizardl> I was wondering if there was a way to take the sound recorder and minimize it to the top right panel ?
[18:48] <lwizardl> so that it will continue recording without taking up display space
[18:49] <SDr> hi
[18:49] <KM0201> helpme_: was that a difficult question?
[18:49] <mamece2> km0201 i cant find any info about that matter, 11.04 64 bits and RTL8187
[18:49] <helpme_> KM0201- no. i have installed only ubuntu on my PC so there is no selection of OS
[18:49] <robin0800> lwizardl, if it has a panel icon yes
[18:49] <SDr> mail command fails to send an e-mail to my gmail address when using the root user; it works from www-data. any ideas what I should be poking to make this work with root?
[18:50] <Ubuntufreak> quiescens: thanks for you kind help :-)
[18:50] <KM0201> mamece2: yeah, just confirmed, thats the one i have, and it works fine w/ 32bit.. dunno what your prob may be
[18:50] <KM0201> !realtek | mamece2
[18:50] <lwizardl> robin0800, nope the sound recorder doesn't have one, do you know of one that does ?
[18:50] <helpme_> KM0201- no. i have installed only ubuntu on my PC so there is no selection of OS
[18:50] <helpme_> KM0201- no. i have installed only ubuntu on my PC so there is no selection of OS
[18:50] <helpme_> KM0201- no. i have installed only ubuntu on my PC so there is no selection of OS
[18:50] <helpme_> KM0201- no. i have installed only ubuntu on my PC so there is no selection of OS
[18:50] <FloodBot1> helpme_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50] <KM0201> helpme_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10804908#post10804908
[18:51] <robin0800> lwizardl, no sorry
[18:51] <KM0201> helpme_: you don't put the -  other wise it doesn't alert me (or put a space after my name one...
[18:51] <KM0201> !tab | helpme_
[18:52] <helpme_> ok thanx
[18:52] <SDr> mail command fails to send an e-mail to my gmail address when using the root user; it works from www-data. any ideas what I should be poking to make this work with root?
[18:53] <helpme_> KM0201: so is there no solution for this?
[18:53] <edgy> Hi, how do you start iptables in ubuntu?
[18:53] <KM0201> helpme_: i'm pretty sure changing grub gfxmode will fix the problem (at least ti did for someone else i helped).
[18:53] <KM0201> helpme_: did you read the link i gave you?
[18:54] <Captainkrtek> edgy: just do iptables
[18:54] <helpme_> KM0201: yes i did. lemme try it
[18:54] <Guest40243> hello guys
[18:54] <edgy> Captainkrtek:  sudo iptables gives error: Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[18:55] <KM0201> helpme_: just make sure you're changing grub on your hard drive.
[18:55] <mamece2> how can i go back to ubuntu 10.10 from 11.04?
[18:55] <KM0201> not on the cd
[18:55] <LjL> edgy: that's because you don't "start" iptables, iptables is just a command to set stuff in your kernel, you need to give it parameters
[18:55] <LjL> mamece2: by reinstalling
[18:55] <KM0201> mamece2: clean install
[18:55] <edgy> LjL: what's the syntax?
[18:55] <helpme_> KM0201: yeah sure.. am not that much of a noob
[18:55] <edgy> LjL: other OS have init.d scripts for that
[18:55] <Guest40243> I have added a new user on my virtual server via adduser. I would like to limit his rights in that way that he is denied to modify any data in his own directory
[18:56] <KM0201> helpme_: just saying..
[18:56] <LjL> edgy: depends on what you want it to do. it's all in "man iptables". you may want to use "ufw" instead, which is much simpler, again depending on what you want to do.
[18:56] <Guest40243> is this possible?
[18:56] <KM0201> helpme_: considering i found that w/ a 10sec google search, i wondered
[18:56] <ullas> Hi is it good to install 11.04  I am using 10.04
[18:56] <mamece2> km0201 wow this sucks :( dl again 10.10?
[18:56] <KM0201> mamece2: well, what else would you propose doing?
[18:56] <Guest40243> I have added a new user on my virtual server via adduser. I would like to limit his rights in that way that he is denied to modify any data in his own directory. Is this possible?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest40243: change the owner to the super user
[18:56] <LjL> mamece2: if you don't have it on a CD...
[18:57] <KM0201> mamece2: you should've investigated 11.04 a little mroe thoroughly from the sounds of it.
[18:57] <Guest40243> MonkeyDust, if he's super user he is able to modify everything, right?
[18:57] <ullas> howdy is it good to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.04
[18:57] <mamece2> i though 11.04 would be better than 10.10, that it would not lack previous drivers
[18:57] <KM0201> ullas: no
[18:57] <OerHeks> ullas yes, sure, 11.04 is nice
[18:57] <ThinkT510> ullas: to do that you'd need to update to 10.10 first
[18:58] <LjL> ullas: you ask different people, you get different answers. it's subjective.
[18:58] <KM0201> upgrading to 11.04 is fine, but not directly from 10.04 to 11.04, as that is not supported
[18:58] <ullas> Ljl you are right
[18:58] <mamece2> whats the shortcut key to show desktop in 11.04?
[18:58] <OerHeks> KM0201 is right about upgrade procedure
[18:58] <ullas> what about fresh install
[18:59] <KM0201> ullas: well of course you can fresh install if you want..
[18:59] <ullas> I heard new jockey is a mess
[18:59] <osmodivs_> Hello. I want ot activate some temp sensors, but I can't:  osmodivs@Djiin:~$ sudo service module-init-tools start            Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing. Why does that menas??
[19:00] <KM0201> ullas: i thnk ther'es been some issues w/ some.. i've not had any probs (but id on't really use it
[19:00] <ullas> so how can in remove jockey from 11.04 and install B-43
[19:01] <KM0201> ullas: you don't need to remove jockey to install b43.. install b43 from the repository, then activate it via terminal..
[19:02] <ullas> Thats the trouble jockey is interfearing . means that when i reboot the wifi is gone and i have to reinstall it
[19:03] <KM0201> i dunno ullas ive heard no prob like that.
[19:03] <elkclone> close
[19:04] <ullas> So what do you think?. Shall i install 11.04 once again and try my luck
[19:05] <edgy> LjL: I have some rules in my iptables and I did iptables -F to flush them temporary. Now, I don't want to restart my laptop to reread iptables config file, I want to restart iptables only
[19:06] <edgy> LjL: btw I don't know where is the config file that have the rules i saw before flushing
[19:06] <oCean> edgy: try sudo start ufw
[19:06] <osmodivs_> Theres is a storm aproching... login out
[19:07] <LjL> edgy: well there are iptables-save and iptables-restore commands...
[19:07] <manu_> Hi , I have installed an Ubuntu Wubi and i am happy and I would like to get rid of my windows install . Unfortunately my laptop is old ( no cdrom available, and no usb to boot ifrom the bios)
[19:07] <BlakHawk> sudo service network start ?
[19:07] <manu_> Any idea how to install a fresh copy of ubuntu on my dsk?
[19:07] <BlakHawk> to restart iptables
[19:08] <xangua> manu_: you can't
[19:08] <edgy> LjL: restart ufw didn't help but sudo iptables-restore hangs without giving me the prompt back
[19:08] <prx> manu_: move the hdd temporarily on to another PC
[19:09] <LjL> edgy: that's because it tries to restore from stdin, you'd have to provide the file where to restore from, but if you don't know where it is... well, i don't know either :P
[19:09] <manu_> xangua: prx : is there anyway to bootstrap the install ( the only thing i have is a iso file and a free partittion )
[19:09] <edgy> LjL: by default does ubuntu have iptables rules or not?
[19:09] <oCean> edgy: see /etc/ufw
[19:09] <oCean> !ufw | edgy
[19:09] <prx> manu_: what boot loader is on the computer right now?
[19:09] <helpme> KM0201: do i have to edit the grub file in the text editor? i dont think i have the permissions to edit it (its a read only). sorry its my first day with ubuntu
[19:10] <dstepanovic> hello.. i'm running ubuntu 11.04 with an ati radeon x1600 card, but flash video is extremely slow and slows the whole pc down, while in windows i don't have any trouble.. anyone have idea what the issue might be??
[19:10] <LjL> edgy: i don't think so, but i don't know what it's like these days, i'm just coming from a pretty old version of Ubuntu (Hardy)
[19:10] <manu_> nt loader and grub
[19:10] <KM0201> you can use the text editor, just use gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[19:10] <manu_> prx: nt loader and grub
[19:10] <prx> manu_: grub 1 does not boot isos, i think
[19:10] <prx> grub 2 would
[19:10] <erebus> how can i install skype?
[19:11] <Piranah> ok people, Ubuntu + Unitity minimize xchat and it does not go to the so called taskbar. Any fix or easy work arround ?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> !skype | erebus
[19:11] <prx> manu_: can the computer boot via PXE (ethernet)?
[19:11] <edgy> BlakHawk: I tried init.d/network restart but still not rules appeared
[19:12] <edgy> LjL: is it possible to do dist-upgrade from hardy to natty directly?
[19:12] <tensorpudding> Piranah: someone came in here with that problem yesterday
[19:12] <tensorpudding> Piranah: can you alt+tab to it?
[19:12] <ThinkT510> edgy: no
[19:12] <manu_> prx: I don't think so. I was wondering if there is a script that would install a working copy from a iso as I can already boot in a ubunutu session
[19:12] <Piranah> tensorpudding nope
[19:12] <xangua> edgy: no, from hardy to lucid yes
[19:12] <edgy> ThinkT510: from karmic to natty?
[19:12] <erebus> ThinkT510:
[19:12] <erebus> erebus@ErebusPC:~$ sudo apt-get install skype
[19:12] <erebus> Reading package lists... Done
[19:12] <erebus> Building dependency tree
[19:12] <erebus> Reading state information... Done
[19:12] <erebus> Package skype is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:12] <FloodBot1> erebus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:12] <Piranah> its like it becomes a hidden task
[19:12] <tensorpudding> Piranah: do you have it to minimize to the tray?
[19:13] <Piranah> yup
[19:13] <edgy> xangua: from karmic to natty?
[19:13] <xangua> no
[19:13] <prx> manu_: If you already have ubuntu. mount the iso and try to run the installer there (chroot over)
[19:13] <tensorpudding> Piranah: that's the thing, the application indicator area in natty is not the tray
[19:13] <xangua> edgy: no
[19:13] <tensorpudding> Piranah: the tray is in fact hidden by default
[19:13] <prx> but i do not know ubuntu well enough to be of direct help to you
[19:13] <ThinkT510> edgy: only from one lts to the next or from one release to the next
[19:13] <dstepanovic> i'm running ubuntu 11.04 with an ati radeon x1600 card, but flash video is extremely slow and slows the whole pc down, while in windows i don't have any trouble.. anyone have idea what the issue might be??
[19:13] <Piranah> tensorpudding ok so kill that option in xchat and all should be good ?
[19:13] <tensorpudding> Piranah: i think so
[19:14] <prx> dstepanovic: thats because of gnash i think, deinstall gnash and install the adobe flashplayer
[19:14] <unicron> dual monitor mode displays a tag in the upper left of each screen, how to remove them?
[19:14] <manu_> prx: Do you know what is the script to start ?
[19:14] <edgy> ThinkT510, xangua: ok I have a friend with karmic, I tried update-manager -d and it shows no updates available, what's the correct procedure then
[19:14] <dstepanovic> prx: i don't have gnash installed, just the normal flash player
[19:14] <prx> manu_: nope, but i'd have a look in rc.local and the typical upstart scripts /etc/init /etc/init.d and such
[19:15] <Piranah> tensorpudding ok lol now i need to figure out howto disable min to tray lol
[19:15] <manu_> prx: ok will have a look at it Thx; Will come back after a try
[19:15] <ThinkT510> edgy: karmic is no longer supported, best to do a fresh install
[19:15] <Da|Mummy> whats terminal command for task manager thing in ubuntu?
[19:15] <tensorpudding> Piranah: if you want, you can unhide the tray for a minute, then rehide it
[19:15] <Piranah> tensorpudding how ?
[19:16] <erebus> how can i check if i have 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[19:16] <Da|Mummy> erebus, does flash work
[19:16] <edgy> ThinkT510: ok I already did changed all karmic occurences to natty and did dist-upgrade for him and left the office, now this is serious, how can I proceed?
[19:16] <erebus> yes
[19:16] <prx> dstepanovic: every browser is becoming slow when you play videos?
[19:16] <erebus> Da|Mummy: yes
[19:16] <Da|Mummy> then you ave 32bit
[19:16] <erebus> Da|Mummy: i did uname -a
[19:16] <erebus> it says x86_64
[19:16] <tensorpudding> Piranah: you need to open the terminal and put in the following line
[19:16] <oCean> Da|Mummy: that is nonsense
[19:16] <Da|Mummy> :|
[19:16] <oCean> erebus: that is 64bit
[19:17] <vldcnst> Hello, any hints on why apps (ping for eg) is using the dhcp supplied NS when /etc/resolv.conf contains user set NS?
[19:17] <bbonora-vaio> can someone help with a virtualhost issue?
[19:17] <spankbot> from the terminal.. what is the "text to voice" command?
[19:17] <dstepanovic> prx: not only the browser, the whole system.. i looked into chrome's task manager and it used more than 40% of my cpu
[19:17] <tensorpudding> Piranah: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[19:17] <Da|Mummy> whats terminal command for task manager thing in ubuntu?
[19:17] <ThinkT510> edgy: you did a fresh install of karmic and changed the sources to natty? you should never do that
[19:18] <tpolleri> Hello everyone. I have an envy 14 and I get this bug when i boot, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/727620, The workaround says to add radeon.modeset=0 into the boot line and I am not sure on how to do it. Can anyone help me please?
[19:18] <prx> dstepanovic: is this on every video or does this get worse on some (i am thinking of h264)
[19:18] <edgy> ThinkT510: it's a karmic installation and he did work for some time on it and have critical files. I already did that and thought there would be no problem
 thnx i well try that Best regards!
[19:19] <edgy> ThinkT510: now I need some help
[19:19] <tensorpudding> Piranah: to reset it back to normal, you do gsettings reset com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist
[19:19] <ThinkT510> edgy: get the critical files off the machine, store them somewhere safe and do a fresh install of natty (if you want natty)
[19:20] <edgy> ThinkT510: ok so if the system didn't boot I would do that, but isn't there any possibility that it would work?
[19:20] <Darkenvy> so how do I find th eproper linux sound drivers for my board?
[19:20] <dstepanovic> prx: it varies indeed.. for example videos on this site: http://beta.uitzendinggemist.nl/ are just not viewable at all, i hear the sound but the picture is just so slow it almost doesn't move
[19:20] <Darkenvy> my sound cracks out a lot
[19:20] <eamon> does anyone know how my ISP is throttling bittorrent? I have https communication to the tracker and my bt client has full encryption enabled be my connections still shoot up to 40kbps then drop off to 2kbps and die nearly as fast.
[19:21] <Darkenvy> this isnt a torrenting community
[19:21] <Darkenvy> ><
[19:21] <ThinkT510> edgy: updating like you described will not work because it isn't designed to do that, get a livecd to recover whatever files you need
[19:21] <edgy> ThinkT510: ok thanks for the tip
[19:22] <zul> I want to browse a remote cvs to get the name of all the projects inside it..
[19:22] <ThinkT510> edgy: np, and please check before doing something major like changing update sources
[19:23] <spankbot> ooooooooooooooh  espeak
[19:23] <tpolleri> how do i  add radeon.modeset=0 into the boot line (grub2)?
[19:24] <edgy> ThinkT510: sure. I remembered I do this to my laptop and upgraded it that way and things went smooth this is why I didn
[19:24] <edgy> ThinkT510: didn't thought it would cause an issue
[19:25] <edgy> ThinkT510: but now I understand it should be one level up not more, right?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> edgy: yes, or from one lts release to another
[19:26] <bbonora-vaio> what does ubuntu name the httpd binary in apache2
[19:26] <peturi> hmm.
[19:26] <Marezz> Whats the default font in Ubuntu?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> edgy: the update manager should give you the option itself, so there shouldn't be a need to edit the lists yourself
[19:26] <bbonora-vaio> when I type httpd -S it doesn't work
[19:27] <sik> Hello, I'm having a serious issue, sudden of all I'm completely unable to log into Ubuntu (when I log in I'm sent back to the log in screen). The only thing I did before was install SCIM... so I guess I better restore the old keyboard handler. Help?
[19:27] <edgy> ThinkT510: so that editing is an old method which is deprecated now in favor of update-manager, right?
[19:28] <sik> (using IRCII right now BTW, I'm stuck in text mode...)
[19:28] <stravant> Has anyone else had trouble building Gtk+ applications after updating to Natty?
[19:28] <kaka> Hi. I've got a program
[19:28] <Darkenvy> where can I find chipset drivers for "EVGA x58 FTW3" motherboard? Sound issues
[19:28] <finalblogger> hello everyone
[19:28] <ThinkT510> edgy: i can't recall it being used officially as an update method
[19:28] <finalblogger> i need to ask few things
[19:29] <finalblogger> is its possible that i can use visual web developer 2010 in ubuntu
[19:29] <finalblogger> actually i am making a website through asp.net
[19:30] <Marezz> Can anyone tell me whats the default font in Ubuntu?
[19:30] <muneeb> anyone knows how can i see my pastes on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[19:30] <ThinkT510> Marezz: i think it's ubuntu's own font
[19:30] <sik> Marezz: why do you want to know that? >.>'
[19:30] <dstepanovic> prx: any idea about my problem?
[19:31] <finalblogger> soo any idea guys
[19:31] <ThinkT510> !font | Marezz
[19:31] <finalblogger> how can i use asp.net in ubuntu
[19:32] <Marezz> sik, Because I want to use them duh! ThinkT510 Could you tell me exact name of the font?
[19:32] <ThinkT510> !mono | finalblogger
[19:32] <ayrton> can i control my fan speed on my laptop with ubuntu
[19:32] <sik> Marezz: yeah, but I don't know on which context you'd need to set it explicitly :P
[19:32] <braiam> how I can get the tty's work?, Alt+Ctrl+F1-F6, aren't working
[19:32] <braiam> also im using 11.04
[19:33] <ThinkT510> Marezz: look at the last link ubottu gave you
[19:33] <peturi> bbonora-vaio: /exit
[19:33] <sik> BTW, does anybody know how to uninstall SCIM and restore the old keyboard handler? Ubuntu isn't letting me log in normally >_<'
[19:34] <finalblogger> tell me programming channel
[19:34] <finalblogger> i am new here
[19:35] <meegostuff> hi guys! I have a little problem... I have meego installed but I want to reinstall ubuntu. unetbootin doesn't work to make a bootable usb, and I can't do it work only with dd. Any suggestion?
[19:35] <robdig> finalblogger: don't think you'll be able to use visual web developer on ubuntu. not sure if you can get asp.net to run on it or not, will depend on your webserver
[19:35] <finalblogger> thanks guys
[19:35] <ayrton> how do u control your fan speed in ubuntu?
[19:36] <finalblogger> thanks robdig
[19:36] <robdig> finalblogger: np and good luck
[19:36] <tpolleri> ayrton, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[19:36] <finalblogger> any programming channel
[19:37] <tpolleri> how do i  add radeon.modeset=0 into the boot line (grub2)?
[19:38] <ayrton> i just want to set my fan to max
[19:38] <sik> So, uninstalled SCIM, how do I restore the default keyboard handler for X? What's the name of the package? =/
[19:38] <robdig> finalblogger: maybe ##asp.net ?
[19:38] <finalblogger> thanks
[19:39] <zc00gii> so far, all of this bloatware and monolithic everything that is ubuntu has not made life easier for me.
[19:39] <zc00gii> ubuntu one's sign up page isn't loading a captcha
[19:40] <zc00gii> the side bar disappears after a second if I'm on a fullscreen window
[19:40] <zc00gii> but I just want just the first problem fixed, even though there are others
[19:41] <Nordost> Amen
[19:41] <nonix4> which parts of gnome can be restarted besides "killall gnome-panel" in order to attempt to make mouse focus changeable to other windows again by methods other than closing the current one with focus?
[19:41] <zc00gii> the captcha refuses to show in the singup for ubuntu one...it just shows loading
[19:41] <zc00gii> oh,  finally it loaded
[19:42] <ayrton> i cant find a simple program to manualy controll my fan speed
[19:43] <sik> I uninstalled SCIM, does anybody know how to restore the default keyboard handler package? (using the console right now)
[19:46] <robdig> ayrton: haven't used it, but i see this in the repos. thinkfan - simple and lightweight fan control program
[19:47] <ayrton> i installed it but i cant find it robdig
[19:48] <braiam> how I can get the tty's work?, Alt+Ctrl+F1-F6, aren't working, the getty are running and is natty
[19:48] <ThinkT510> ayrton: try typing thinkfan in a terminal
[19:48] <manu_> Does any1 know how to start the ubuntu installer from  a mounted cd?
[19:49] <kurtul> my mic doesn't work properly. the voice is not clear. can you help me?
[19:49] <ThinkT510> manu_: you need to boot the cd, not mount it in another os
[19:49] <OerHeks> ayrton first you need LmSensors, see the wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto en then http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/fancontrol.8.html
[19:49] <ayrton> thinkt510 the terminal is asking if the laptop is a think pad and its not
[19:49] <ayrton> i dont want my fan to be auto i want it on max all the time,
[19:50] <ThinkT510> ayrton: then i guess that package won't work for your laptop
[19:50] <manu_> ThinkT510: can't do that the cdom is dead on  my laptop
[19:51] <kara> how can i play doom 3 on this computer?
[19:51] <ThinkT510> manu_: oh, so you mounted the iso?
[19:51] <zak_> hi !is there anybody who can help me with samba ?i don't know how to configure it  so that i can transfer  files from my Desktop to my lappy!
[19:51] <ThinkT510> !samba | zak_
[19:52] <prx> manu_: id chroot over to the mounted iso, and try initializinf some init levels there
[19:52] <zak_> ThinkT510: actually the Desktop and the lappy both are under linux , does this page applies to what i need?
[19:52] <manu_> ThinkT510: yes; i am in a wubi session and would like to install a proper distrib on a free partition
[19:52] <prx> just switching around might be enough to trigger all whats needed to run the installer
[19:53] <ThinkT510> zak_: oh, you don't need samba to share between 2 linux installs, as far as i know
[19:53] <stravant> Has anyone experienced linker errors trying to compile even a hello world application using Gtk+ after updating to natty?
[19:54] <MayorChapstick> hey guys, got a minor emergency here: "Tell me that whenever I can find a way to restore the default keyboard handler in Ubuntu, it isn't letting me log in at all so I'm stuck with the console x_X (e-mailing this using Lynx)."
[19:54] <nonix4> how do I "startx -- :1" another X session for same user w/ ubuntu?
[19:55] <zak_> ThinkT510: i just need to transfer folders from my Desktop and my lappy  using a network cable
[19:55] <nabnub> hi #ubuntu, been googling like mad but found nothing useful. My question: Is there some kind of gnome applet (or something) available that can display a text file (a log) integrated in the desktop? So that I always can keep an eye on it?
[19:55] <ThinkT510> manu_: do you have a floppy drive on that laptop?
[19:55] <xsbyme> hi all i have problem with xorg and screen can enybody help me out please http://pastebin.com/KiD2k8U9
[19:55] <zak_> ThinkT510: nope, :/ can't i transfer folders using the network cable?
[19:56] <sik> Ack, uninstalling SCIM didn't work. Does anybody know why Ubuntu won't let me log in at all (outside the console)? I'm completely unable to do anything at all if I can't use the computer normally :(
[19:56] <ThinkT510> zak_: could try ssh
[19:56] <ThinkT510> !ssh | zak_
[19:56] <zak_> ThinkT510: sorry i am a newbee:( does it have a GUI?
[19:56] <xsbyme> !screen
[19:56] <negev> hi, whats a simple way to find out on the command line if there are any security updates available?  i could install update-notifier, but it has crazy dependencies like x11 and gnome etc. i just want something simple and cmd-line based
[19:57] <manu_> ThinkT510: yes but no more floppy . Is it possible to install a fresh ubuntu from another version ( like you would do with a lfs or gentoo ? )
[19:57] <xsbyme> hi all i have problem with xorg and screen can enybody help me out please http://pastebin.com/KiD2k8U9
[19:58] <ThinkT510> manu_: hmm, not sure sorry, but if you had a spare floppy i was going to suggest booting from the floppy to load a liveusb (since you can't boot from usb)
[19:59] <manu_> ThinkT510: Can't grub chainload a start the CD stored on the disk?
[20:00] <ThinkT510> manu_: grub2 can, but i've never done it so i wouldn't know how to help you with it
[20:01] <robdig> sik: MayorChapstick: sounds like y'all have a similar issue. i found a post here that gives an answer, however it is a bit old, so not sure if it is still relevant. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26419
[20:01] <prx> a patched grub (95% are) might be able
[20:01] <xsbyme> enybody ?
[20:01] <prx> all those patches was what brought grub2
[20:01] <helpme> KM0201: Hey dude. i found this http://www.hotubuntunews.com/blog_03.shtml
[20:02] <xsbyme> helpme doesnt work
[20:02] <helpme> KM0201: but i am unable to open anything by pressing the "ESC" key
[20:02] <KM0201> helpme: thats for dapper... dapper, which uses grub legacy, which is different from the version of grub you have now
[20:02] <MayorChapstick> thanks robdig
[20:02] <xsbyme> tryed that on
[20:02] <KM0201> helpme: did you follow the instructins i gave you earlier?
[20:02] <helpme> KM0201: was unable to edit
[20:02] <KM0201> ...
[20:02] <sik> Ugh, can somebody post that URL again? IRCII won't let me scroll up :(
[20:03] <xsbyme> robdig	sik: MayorChapstick: sounds like y'all have a similar issue. i found a post here that gives an answer, however it is a bit old, so not sure if it is still relevant. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/26419
[20:03] <sik> OK
[20:03] <sik> Thanks
[20:03] <helpme> KM0201:  what about this one- https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/2402
[20:03] <symptom> What hash function does Ubuntu use for passwords?
[20:03] <xsbyme> hi all i have problem with xorg and screen can enybody help me out ?
[20:03] <xsbyme> http://pastebin.com/KiD2k8U9
[20:04] <KM0201> helpme: .. answer your PM.. you're obviouisly either not paying attention, or something.
[20:04] <MayorChapstick> lol sik I was relaying for you
[20:04] <sik> robdig: Oh yeah I tried the suggestion in that topic, it said /etc/X11 wasn't an alternative >_>
[20:05] <MadEchidna> sik, I came in here to get help for you :P
[20:05] <sik> Oh WTF are you doing here Mad
[20:05] <MadEchidna> that's why I was asking the same quesion
[20:05] <sik> Did Oerg tell you? :P
[20:05] <MadEchidna> Oerg sent me yeah
[20:05] <MadEchidna> nice work man
[20:05] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:06] <sik> I uninstalled SCIM now (apt-get remove, etc.) but that didn't seem to get Ubuntu to, um, not send me back to the log in screen...
[20:06] <robdig> sik: that's the problem with 3 year old answers, things can change so quickly in open source
[20:06] <symptom> What hash function does Ubuntu use for passwords?
[20:06] <sik> So now I don't know if it was SCIM or some update
[20:06] <symptom> !password
[20:06] <Oerg866> sik: did that fix it? in any case disregard my emails >.>
[20:07] <sik> Oerg866: nope :(
[20:07] <Oerg866> damn
[20:07] <Oerg866> Cant you run the keyboard config setup thing again?
[20:07] <sik> I ran dpkg but nothing... Also when I had installed SCIM it uninstalled something so I want to reinstall whatever got removed again
[20:07] <Oerg866> I havent installed ubuntu in ages but there was something that let you do that
[20:07] <gazalam__> oh, I have a bcm4311 and the adapter is stuck in channel -1 in monitor mode
[20:08] <gazalam__> I have the b43 driver install with the firmware installed too
[20:08] <xsbyme> hello all i have problem with xorg and screen http://pastebin.com/KiD2k8U9
[20:08] <gazalam__> any ideas?
[20:09] <sik> OK, so: does anybody know how to restore the old keyboard setup? And how can I find out what's making Ubuntu send me back to the log in screen? Even in safe mode it happens :(
[20:09] <mozeee> all did these things to ssh my shell account:
[20:09] <mozeee> client:ssh-keygen -t rsa
[20:09] <mozeee> server: mkdir .ssh > cd .ssh > mkdir authorized_keys
[20:09] <mozeee> scp .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@server:.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:09] <FloodBot1> mozeee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <mozeee> but as i log out and try to log in again, it asks for password again? what did i do wrong?
[20:10] <zacharyalexstern> Is there any plan to integrate some sort of RDP plugin with Vinagre?
[20:10] <mozeee> i've got some problem about SSH >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/607512/
[20:11] <gazalam__> what's the problem?
[20:11] <mozeee> gazalam_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/607512/
[20:11] <xsbyme> hello all i have problem with xorg and screen http://pastebin.com/KiD2k8U9
[20:11] <thr> hi huys :)
[20:11] <braiam> still without tty, and the getty are running
[20:11] <thr> *guys
[20:12] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:12] <stravant> How can I tell aptitude to reinstall a package, and force it to download from the repository rather than using the cached version?
 OK, so: does anybody know how to restore the old keyboard setup? And how can I find out what's making Ubuntu send me back to the log in screen? Even in safe mode it happens :(
[20:13] <Oerg866> the x config dialog
[20:13] <Oerg866> wait no
[20:13] <Oerg866> or maybe ye
[20:13] <Oerg866> *yes
[20:13] <FloodBot1> Oerg866: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <Oerg866> ...? u mad? XD
[20:14] <sik> Oerg866: found something, still reading to see if it's relevant
[20:14] <xsbyme> enybody can help me out?
[20:14] <sik> Somebody who installed Chinese input support and then login stopped working from GUI, and from last April too :/
[20:14] <adam62> hey, does anyone know how to get around the npviewer.bin problem with flash for firefox 4?
[20:15] <SiNGLer> hi all, is there known any problems with recent ubuntu 11.04 update? My friend updated today and then second monitor stopped working. In gdm screen both monitors work
[20:15] <HyperShock> anyone know why startupdisk creator in 11.04 doesn't actually finish?
[20:15] <codin1237> need help my nickname has been stolen
[20:15] <codin1237> unable to log in with my old name.....
[20:16] <symptom> What hash function does Ubuntu use for passwords?
[20:16] <Oerg866> sik: try startx as root maybe ...
[20:16] <xsbyme> i have problem with xorg and screen http://pastebin.com/KiD2k8U9
[20:16] <adam62> codin1237, i'm brand new but i was having a similar problem.. did you alt-tab to see if it's already open?
[20:16] <codin1237> no
[20:17] <dRako1337> boring as hell... fuck'd up day..
[20:17] <adam62> give it a shot
[20:17] <codin1237> when i logged in it told these nickname is in use...
[20:17] <stravant> How can I tell aptitude to reinstall a package, and force it to download from the repository rather than using the cached version?
[20:17] <bbonora-vaio> I have three virtual host ofr a couple of subdomains but they are all being directed to the same location
[20:17] <codin1237> adam62:when i logged in it told these nickname is in use...
[20:17] <duncan-nz> hi good people. I've got ubuntu 11.04 and installed kubuntu-desktop but now I can't get the normal login window back - I've got the KDE one. How do I fix this so my wife doesn't kill me for 'messing up the computer'?
[20:17] <bindi> codin1237: not related to this channel
[20:17] <mozeee> i just create a public key for my shell account but it still asks me for password? >>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/607512/
[20:18] <jboer> hello. I just installed Ubuntu. Decided to give it a go since my CD-ROM broke and AFAIK Windows doesn't allow you to put its installer on a USB. Ran into a problem: my mouse wheel scroll speed can't be adjusted. Has there been a fix for this yet?
[20:18] <xsbyme> my xorg is failing all the time
[20:18] <adam62> codin1237, ya it did that to me too, turns out i already had it open; just hit alt-tab to switch btwn open windows and close extra ones if there are any
[20:18] <bbonora-vaio> When using a the *:80 it will go to /var/www/ but when I use the IP I get a 404 error
[20:18] <adam62> anyone know how to fix npviewer.bin bug?
[20:18] <bindi> codin1237: but anyways you need to use /nickserv recover <nickname> [password]
[20:18] <duncan-nz> jboer, have you run an update? If it's been fixed you'll get it automatically. assuming it is a driver fix you need.
[20:18] <codin1237> bindi: i belong to this channel been an active person
[20:18] <HyperShock> anyone know why startupdisk creator in 11.04 doesn't actually finish?
[20:19] <bindi> codin1237: good for you, but that thing you asked does not
[20:19] <jboer> I have updated all the packages that were being asked to update. I already searched on Google and found a xorg.conf configuration parameter but it isn't helping
[20:19] <duncan-nz> adam62, how about telling us what you've already tried?
[20:19] <Oblat> Hi, if I would like to surf the internet with a different IP should I buy a proxy or a VPN? What is the difference anyways?
[20:19] <adam62> duncan-nz, hi, i've tried everything i could possible search for in google, to no avail
[20:19] <codin1237> adam62:  don't know what to do...  :(
[20:19] <kasutaja_tramm> I have modified casper.conf on Natty live CD with UCK. I recompressed the ISO and ensured modified casper.conf exists in filesystem.sqashfs, but when I boot the system, old Ubuntu casper.conf is back again. Why and by what is it replaced?
[20:19] <jboer> I think I may have to compile my own version of gtk to get this working =\
[20:20] <duncan-nz> jboer, is this really a serious problem? I assume that you're saying you've found where to change the settings but they don't work for your mouse. Is that right?
[20:20] <duncan-nz> adam62, great. Not everyone bothers before coming in here and asking. Sorry I can't personally help you.
[20:20] <adam62> duncan-nz, i've gone to adobe, firefox, and synaptic and installed everything i could see, testing one at a time.. i don't know what to try
[20:21] <stravant> How would I go about re-installing all of the libraries and headers for glib and gtk+ without touching anything else?
[20:21] <jboer> there *are* no settings. So far I've tried adding the line " Option         "VertScrollDelta" "3"" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it hasn't worked (yes, I've restarted gdm)
[20:21] <Oerg866> sik: News? :V
[20:21] <freudened> how many people have replaced metacity in their GNOME setup?
[20:21] <duncan-nz> stravant, isn't there a 'reinstall' option in synaptic?
[20:21] <Guest85282> Is there any convenient method to setting my cpu frequency to 2.40ghz (performance) constantly, vs booting into demand.
[20:21] <jboer> from what I've read so far this is one of these dumb issues that causes people to stop using Ubuntu
[20:21] <bindi> Guest85282: why do you want that? it's no help
[20:21] <adam62> duncan-nz, no problem; seems to be a pretty big issue, very confused why i can't play flash in firefox
[20:22] <Guest85282> bindi, i have done several benchmarks i do get quite a bit better performance.
[20:22] <stravant> duncan-nz: Not as far as I know. There's "update", but I need to force it to re-install it by downloading it from the web and overwriting the already up-to-date package
[20:22] <jboer> I've read somewhere that this issue exists because of gtk, so I've been trying to download the source-code for gtk but I'm not having much luck
[20:23] <adam62> does anyone know how to determine whether your current browser is 32 or 64 bit?
[20:23] <mozeee> no idea? >>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/607512/
[20:23] <dRako1337> 11.04 sucks
[20:24] <dRako1337> no idea why shuttleworth doing this to his com.
[20:24] <stravant> duncan-nz: It's because any Gtk+ code will fail to link due to some problem with the libraries, I want to make sure that they're all the latest libraries and not something sticking around from a cache somewhere causing the trouble
[20:24] <jboer> dRako1337: why?
[20:24] <Guest85282> bindi, were you simply responding to criticize my question?
[20:24] <bindi> Guest85282: yes
[20:24] <Guest85282> bindi, thank you :)
[20:24] <bindi> Guest85282: i'd answer if I knew how to do it in ubuntu
[20:24] <codin1237> adam62: now a days chrome and firefox are both compatible...
[20:24] <Guest85282> i want my debian back :(
[20:24] <duncan-nz> stravant, have a look by right clicking the colored icon of the application in synaptic. there is a reinstall option.
[20:25] <dRako1337> jboer: lots of drivers are broken
[20:25] <codin1237> only in IE there are two different version of browser each for 32 bit and 64 bit
[20:25] <rats_> dRako1337: Kubuntu 11.04 is the bomb
[20:25] <stravant> duncan-nz: Oh, I meant from the command line, the apt-get thing
[20:25] <dRako1337> rats_: yes i know... but my beatiful ubuntu :_(
[20:25] <dRako1337> iam really thinking about to install kubuntu 11.04
[20:26] <rats_> I like KDE so much more
[20:27] <ThinkT510> dRako1337: xubuntu 11.04 works wonderfully, if you prefer something more gtk-ish
[20:27] <thr> anyone watching eurovision on their ubuntu media centre ?
[20:27] <duncan-nz> jbour, there is a settings dialog for mouse settings, have you looked there? Sounds like you've dived straight into configuration fiels.
[20:27] <adam62> codin1237, is npviewer.bin an issue for you at all? every time i play flash, this opens and freezes my computer
[20:27] <rats_> dRako1337:  give unity some time and work-it'll be good soon
[20:27] <Oblat> Hi, if I would like to surf the internet with a different IP should I buy a proxy or a VPN? What is the difference anyways?
[20:27] <dRako1337> im really fucked up of ubuntu... cause the ati driver are very instable/dump!
[20:27] <thr> my unity locks up after 24 hours for some reason
[20:27] <dRako1337> lags as hell
[20:27] <duncan-nz> How do I get the gnome login screen working again? I lost it when I installed kubuntu-dekstop
[20:27] <rats_> dRako1337:  It's just different
[20:27] <adam62> codin1237, i've tried everything, but i'm very new to linux.. been on google all day
[20:27] <oCean> dRako1337: watch your language in this channel
[20:28] <negev> Oblat: depends on the use case
[20:28] <dRako1337> kk sry..
[20:28] <oCean> dRako1337: also, if you just came to rant, you are in the wrong channel
[20:28] <guntbert> Oblat: thats no question of ubuntu support
[20:29] <dRako1337> guys with distr. works well with ati cards? 57-seri
[20:31] <stravant> duncan-nz: Did that, but it didn't seem to take very long. Are you sure it actually downloaded them from the web?
[20:31] <Oblat> negev: I would like to surf the web with a different IP.
[20:31] <stravant> (And it didn't fix the problem)
[20:32] <signpost> hi, my syslogd is churning at 30% cpu on two cores.  can someone help me discover why?
[20:32] <duncan-nz> stravant, if it still has the package it may not have refetched it. But I've never heard of libraries being cached. But then I'm not a programmer myself.
[20:32] <signpost> I recently upgraded to natty
[20:32] <codin1237> how can i connect to a computer of whose i have an IP address
[20:32] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:32] <brokebuntu> Hi.
[20:32] <duncan-nz> codin1237, depends on what the other machine is set up to do...
[20:32] <ThinkT510> !ssh | codin1237
[20:33] <brokebuntu> I am running from a live CD atm. Trying to repair my system. Apparently DPKG and a bunch of other things are broken.
[20:33] <sik> xinit: connection to X server lost; waiting for X server to shut down  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[20:33] <brokebuntu> I run apt-get -f install, and it does nothing but errors
[20:33] <stravant> duncan-nz: It must do some caching, because when I accidentally uninstalled half the OS trying to uninstall / reinstall libglib from the command line it only took about a minute to reinstall everything.
[20:33] <codin1237> so with the help of above mentioned links, i can learn to connect a remote computer of which i have an IP address
[20:34] <duncan-nz> stravant, I don't think I know enough to help you from here. Good luck though.
[20:34] <stravant> duncan-nz: Thanks
[20:34] <wdkey1> Hi there,
[20:34] <wdkey1> I've been trying to install and setup Ubuntu 11.04 (64-bit) on my laptop to replace Windows 7 for the past week, but I can't get past an issue which makes the second monitor all fuzzy and shaky. I've tried to play with the system settings, but I'm still new to Ubuntu.
[20:34] <wdkey1> Here is some extra info:
[20:34] <wdkey1> VGA: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 with Intel GMA HD Switchable Graphics
[20:34] <wdkey1> Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2311H (IPS)
[20:34] <FloodBot1> wdkey1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <duncan-nz> codin1237, that's right, if that's the type of connection you want.
[20:34] <brokebuntu> Could someone walk me through the process of repairing from a Live CD?
[20:35] <wdkey1> I'm sorry, didn't meant to send it all at once
[20:35] <gamingdroid> How do I recursively only change directories to chmod 755? and similarly chmod 644 on files?
[20:35] <Captainkrtek> brokebuntu: what is the issue?
[20:35] <duncan-nz> lost my gdm login after installing kde - how do I get it back?
[20:35] <mozeee> i just did everything with ssh-keygen and just did the 'scp public key' to my server but it still asks for my pass when i try to login for next time?
[20:35] <brokebuntu> My ubuntu install won't boot beyond the splash screen.
[20:35] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:36] <Captainkrtek> brokebuntu: what did you change
[20:36] <brokebuntu> So I'm trying to repair it from Live USB.
[20:36] <LjL> duncan-nz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[20:36] <brokebuntu> Nothing. Installed wine and some other stuff but that's it.
[20:36] <wdkey1> Does anyone knows if there is any issue associated with the VGA ATI mobility HD 5650 with switchable graphics + 2 monitors setup and ubuntu 11?
[20:37] <duncan-nz> LjL, I'll log out see if that did it. Thanks
[20:37] <johhanes> hi
[20:37] <cor_r> wdkey1, hd 5650 works like a chram with two monitors, dont know whatya mean by switchable graphis tho
[20:37] <cor_r> *charm
[20:37] <Captainkrtek> brokebuntu: hmm haven't repaired using a live cd before, fixed grub but not much more, maybe someone else could help
[20:38] <wdkey1> oh its the dual video card thing it has intel hd graphics as an option to save battery
[20:38] <johhanes> jest ktoś z Polski??
[20:38] <mozeee> i just did everything with ssh-keygen and just did the 'scp public key' to my server but it still asks for my pass when i try to login for next time? just wondering why????
[20:38] <rww> !pl | johhanes
[20:38] <johhanes> is anybody from poland here?
[20:38] <cor_r> wdkey1, dont know then, I can only say it works fine with ONE card and TWO monitors
[20:38] <Captainkrtek> johhanes: try #ubuntu-pl
[20:39] <johhanes> thx
[20:39] <Captainkrtek> np
[20:39] <mozeee> !fa | mozeee
[20:39] <wdkey1> ok I see. I will try disabling it on the bios then and see what happens. thanks a bunch
[20:39] <mozeee> !en | mozeee
[20:40] <cor_r> !en | cor_r
[20:40] <LAcan> does anyone know what "bad interpreter: No such file or directory" means when trying to run a pythong script? it seems I have python installed and im wondering if its location is /usr/bin/python in ubuntu 10.04?
[20:40] <oCean> LAcan: type 'which python' to find its path
[20:40] <sik> What's the name of the package for the default keyboard driver for X?
[20:41] <LAcan> oCean, ty solved... typo in the script
[20:41] <bullgard4> 'man mysqld_safe': "DESCRIPTION: mysqld_safe is the recommended way to start a mysqld server on Unix and NetWare." Why does Lucid not start mysqld_safe automatically although /usr/bin/mysqld_safe exists?
[20:41] <oCean> LAcan: ah yes, that happens :)
[20:42] <prx> sik:  xf86-input-keyboard i think
[20:42] <jjgalvez__> Does anyone know how to change the "view photos" dash launcher to launch picasa default
[20:43] <leszek_> ??
[20:43] <duncan-nz> LjL, thanks. that did the trick.
[20:44] <Annoyed> Greetings. Just a quick memory refresh.. due to a few headaches due to 64 bit, I had to disable networking during the install.. During install, it prompts you do download an extra software package, I think contains an mp3 decoder, a font package... and two others.. what was the name of that?
[20:45] <cor_r> !en | cor_r
[20:45] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:45] <Garfio> ola guapa
[20:45] <Tiggercomp> k
[20:45] <ThinkT510> !restricted | Annoyed
[20:45] <Garfio> te locomia todo
[20:45] <oCean> !es | Garfio
[20:45] <xangua> !ops | Garfio
[20:46] <xangua> !please don't ocean :S
[20:46] <oCean> xangua: ?
[20:46] <Annoyed> Silly bot. I'm not having issues. Just want the name of that package. =)
[20:46] <Logan_> Annoyed: ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:47] <Annoyed> might be it. Let me look in the package manager for it
[20:48] <mozeee> any soloution about my problem (ssh)??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/607520/
[20:48] <oCean> mozeee: you should not create a dir 'authorized_keys' but a file
[20:49] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:49] <mozeee> oCean:  :(
[20:49] <Annoyed> Logan_ That wasn't it.. no such listed
[20:50] <Logan_> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:50] <oCean> mozeee: or use ssh-copy-id command
[20:51] <Annoyed> I lied. that was it. Thankee
[20:51] <Logan_> Annoyed: You're welcome.
[20:52] <cor_r> since I activated my nvidia 3d acceleration in order to use unity, my bott screen logo is disappeared or pixeled, some idea how to fix?
[20:52] <mozeee> oCean: YES! what a cool command> ssh-copy-id>>>> I did it again.. but still when i want to login it asked for pass!!!!?
[20:53] <oCean> mozeee: ok, it should not ask for the pass. On the server check if there is a ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[20:53] <Nordost> Kam
[20:53] <Annoyed> Nvidia seems a bit wonky.. It offered, and I installed the proprietary drivers, and they're working, (Unity works), but the restricted hardware screen says they're installed but not activated.
[20:54] <mozeee> oCean: there is! :(
[20:55] <zadok> please what is the english for "informatique" ?
[20:55] <Nordost> I am cornholio
[20:55] <oCean> mozeee: what mode is the ~/.ssh directory you created? It should be 700, and the authorized_keys file should be 600
[20:55] <oCean> Nordost: do you have a support question?
[20:55] <xangua>   zadok google translate
[20:55] <Nordost> informatics
[20:56] <zadok> thanks :)
[20:56] <diskinetic> I have tried a fresh install of 11.04, and it failed to copy all the files over from CD to HD.  So, I reinstalled 10.10 and went the upgrade path... same results.  Any ideas?
[20:56] <mozeee> oCean: how can I change the premissions to these numbers? I mean what is the command line?
[20:57] <Annoyed> Thanks again, Logan_
[20:57] <Logan_> Annoyed: You're welcome.
[20:57] <zadok> i have got xchat gnome, how can i see the users who are on the chan ?
[20:57] <oCean> mozeee:  chmod 700 .ssh    chmod 600 authorized_keys
[20:57] <Nordost> I nred
[20:57] <xangua> zadok: use normal xchat
[20:57] <Nordost> Hoss
[20:57] <oCean> Nordost: stop sending random messages to the channel please
[20:57] <zadok> i can't see them with the gnome edition ?
[20:57] <jjgalvez__> How can I set picasa as my default photo managment program?
[20:58] <root__> hello
[20:58] <Nordost> I use foo chat
[20:58] <xangua> root__: bad idea enter as root
[20:58] <root__> anyone now how to use aircrack-ng
[20:58] <xangua> root__: that is not supported here
[20:58] <eamon> root__ I do
[20:58] <Captainkrtek> root__: what are your intentions with it, it's only legal to use it for pen. testing on your own networks
[20:58] <Nordost> Ask picasso
[20:59] <oCean> Nordost: stop please
[20:59] <Nordost> I need some tp
[20:59] <eamon> does anyone know how my ISP is throttling bittorrent? I have https communication to the tracker and my bt client has full encryption enabled be my connections still shoot up to 40kbps then drop off to 2kbps and die nearly as fast.
[20:59] <dniMretsaM> @jjgalvez: r u using Unity or Classic?
[20:59] <Nordost> I got an error
[21:00] <dniMretsaM> @eamon: possibly by blocking the port that you're using.
[21:00] <Dave888> eamon: every ISP is doing the same thing.. at night they stop limiting BT bandwidth
[21:01] <Nordost> Eamon your isp uses layer7 filtering so you cant get higher speeds
[21:01] <dniMretsaM> I don't think my ISP is blocking it
[21:01] <Captainkrtek> hariykeyboard: we can't help you use aircrack
[21:01] <Nordost> Use usenet or something
[21:01] <eamon> Are they intercepting the shared keys and decrypting my stuff? I'm wondering how they can detect it?
[21:01] <Nordost> Van halen belt
[21:02] <mozeee> oCean: send u a private msg!
[21:03] <Nordost> They see http traffic encryption to various destinations to the same port
[21:03] <dniMretsaM> read this eamon: http://lifehacker.com/295995/stop-your-isp-from-throttling-bittorrent-speeds
[21:03] <dniMretsaM> and the guides it links too
[21:03] <Nordost> So its not neccessary to decrypt anything
[21:03] <LarsTorbenK> hi
[21:03] <dniMretsaM> hi lars
[21:03] <witten> I have a wireless usb adapter that, when plugged into one of my computers, doesn't show up via lsusb at all.. any ideas? it shows up on other computers
[21:04] <kizee> got a major problem with new ubuntu, compiz is running wild :/ if i have compiz openGL enabled, when i move window's they move jagged and rly slow. but if i disable compiz opengl stuffs i can move windows normally (smoothly) but then i cant use any softwares. any clues how i can fix it? (got an ati 6850 and installed the catalyst driver (11.4) from suggested drivers)
[21:04] <guntbert> diskinetic: the most probale reason is: the CDs were corrupt. did you check the integrity of the images before burning?
[21:04] <eamon> Nordost: no the ports are all different
[21:04] <J697> I need some help with using WiFi (or any internet access really) on my computer using Ubuntu 11.04. It's a rather new computer (with very bad specs though) and the Internet works find on my moms/sisters computer. Although on mine, it says "Connecting..." every time I try and open a web page, usually it connects (but it's not only very very slow) it doesn't work 70% of the time and it just continue saying "Connecting..." for a while until it eventually loads t
[21:04] <J697> he page up. Can anyone please help me with this problem?
[21:04] <eamon> All the connections are outgoing Nordost, so they are the other ppl's ports, not mine,  so they're all different
[21:05] <diskinetic> guntbert: that would explain the CD install (and probably does), but does it explain the broken network upgrade?
[21:05] <torchie> according to banshee I've played coldplay's Viva la Vida 6,619,255 times since april 2011
[21:05] <torchie> didn't know I liked the song that much!
[21:05] <Nordost> I need some ducks
[21:05] <dniMretsaM> lol torchie
[21:05] <oCean> Nordost: stop sending random messages to the channel
[21:06] <guntbert> diskinetic: ah, I misunderstood, I thought you got the errors on install
[21:06] <dniMretsaM> nordost = annoying. someone kick/ban him please
[21:06] <root__> hello
[21:06] <diskinetic> guntbert: I did have a failed CD install, but I also had a failed upgrade
[21:06] <Nordost> Che was a gay hater now ricky is playing the role of che
[21:06] <guntbert> Nordost: stop - now
[21:06] <eamon> hello root__
[21:07] <Nordost> Ok
[21:07] <Nordost> Bello
[21:07] <root__> this is my first time
[21:07] <rodolfo> Hello all
[21:07] <root__> kinda fun so far
[21:07] <dniMretsaM> hi root_
[21:07] <eamon> on IRC or using a computer?
[21:07] <eamon> root__
[21:07] <root__> yup
[21:07] <guntbert> root__: don't irc (or anything) as root
[21:07] <xangua> !ot | root__
[21:07] <xangua> bad idea enter as root
[21:07] <root__> i just figured out how to connect to internet
[21:07] <eamon> first time using a computer root__?
[21:07] <root__> wow
[21:07] <eamon> well done
[21:07] <root__> why
[21:08] <J697> I need some help with using WiFi (or any internet access really) on my computer using Ubuntu 11.04. It's a rather new computer (with very bad specs though) and the Internet works find on my moms/sisters computer. Although on mine, it says "Connecting..." every time I try and open a web page, usually it connects (but it's not only very very slow) it doesn't work 70% of the time and it just continue saying "Connecting..." for a while until it eventually loads t
[21:08] <J697> he page up. Can anyone please help me with this problem?
[21:08] <diskinetic> well, root, we're all busily hacking into your bank account now.
[21:08] <eamon> I wasn't using IRC the first time I used a computer.
[21:08] <oCean> diskinetic: that is not helpful
[21:08] <eamon> it's funny oCean
[21:08] <guntbert> diskinetic: please don't make such comments
[21:08] <oCean> !rootirc| root__
[21:08] <root__> well so far bactrack is realy nice
[21:08] <oCean> eamon: that is not what this channel is about
[21:09] <xangua> root__: this is ubuntu channel, not blacktrac
[21:09] <eamon> a little humor never hurt anyone
[21:09] <root__> very true
[21:09] <oCean> root__: mind you: backtrack is not supported here
[21:09] <eamon> #he's not asking for advice
[21:09] <guntbert> eamon: please keep to the topic
[21:09] <dniMretsaM> what is backtrack?
[21:10] <oCean> !backtrack > dniMretsaM
[21:10] <eamon> dniMretsaM please keep to the topic
[21:11] <dniMretsaM> what does that have to do with what I asked?
[21:11] <root__> now can anyone here help learn some hacking with backtrack
[21:11] <jrib> !backtrack | root__
[21:11] <oCean> root__: do you understand that both hacking and backtrack is not supported here?
[21:12] <root__> yes
[21:12] <root__> i do
[21:12] <oCean> root__: so will you stop asking?
[21:12] <root__> i was just being a little curios
[21:12] <dniMretsaM> hacking is not supported? Linux wouldn't exist without hacking
[21:12] <Nordost>  I don't know
[21:12] <root__> ok sorry wont happen
[21:12] <Nordost> Google android phone
[21:12] <Tyrnis> re
[21:12] <Nordost> Oops
[21:13] <Nordost> Hempire
[21:13] <xangua> !ops | Nordost
[21:14] <LjL> xangua: please, easy on the ops trigger
[21:15] <guntbert> diskinetic: back to your problem: what were the error messages?
[21:15] <diskinetic> guntbert: it just halted toward the end of the install (and upgrade) and said files failed to copy and stopped.
[21:16] <diskinetic> guntbert: 10.10 works fine
[21:16] <dniMretsaM> did u try a new .ios and CD?
[21:16] <diskinetic> yup
[21:16] <diskinetic> I'm just tired of re-installing
[21:16] <dniMretsaM> r u upgrading or doing a fresh install?
[21:16] <guntbert> diskinetic: running out of disk space?
[21:16] <guntbert> !u | dniMretsaM
[21:17] <diskinetic> I didn't know if there was some ongoing issue, and my search of forums was fruitless
[21:17] <diskinetic> guntbert: nope
[21:17] <dniMretsaM> wut?
[21:17] <Sylvie> hi, whenever I plug a HDMI cable in my laptop and try to play some movie, the video goes on fast forward and there is no sound. I just tried re-installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, but the problem is still there. My video card is an ATI BTW
[21:18] <guntbert> dniMretsaM: please use plain English
[21:18] <mozeee> when i want to ssh to my server it says: Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.???? what does it mean?
[21:18] <Sylvie> anyone have an idea to why it's doing that?
[21:18] <dniMretsaM> it's plain English spelled phonetically
[21:18] <seidos> dniMretsaM: please use slackware
[21:18] <Tomfoolery> Ok, can someone help me? I'm on the second to latest version of ubuntu and I can't figure out how to open a root window
[21:18] <diskinetic> no, it's phonetic English, by your own admission
[21:19] <Tomfoolery> I've got terminal open but I think i'm spelling the command wrong
[21:19] <seidos> hey beachbum_Bob !
[21:19] <seidos> cool nick
[21:19] <xangua> !root | Tomfoolery
[21:19] <dniMretsaM> that's more plain than regular spelling
[21:19] <guntbert> dniMretsaM: stop discussing
[21:19] <Tomfoolery> dniMretsaM, cheers mate
[21:19] <dniMretsaM> don't blame me. I didn't start it
[21:19] <diskinetic> but also uncommon and not taught to non-english speakers. plus, you'd have to have agreement on what phonemes indicated which sounds
[21:20] <seidos> Tomfoolery: i think su should work
[21:20] <mozeee> what does it mean when i want to ssh:  Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.   >> what should i do to log in with public key?
[21:20] <seidos> just don't su me if it doesn't
[21:20] <guntbert> seidos: don't recommend su, it won't work
[21:20] <Flannel> dniMretsaM: There is no discussion here, this channel is in English, not slang, thanks.
[21:20] <Tomfoolery> seidos, so you think I should just type in su? Or did you just want to make that joke? :P
[21:20] <seidos> hmmm, i thought id di in 10.10
[21:20] <guntbert> !sudo | Tomfoolery
[21:20] <seidos> it did
[21:21] <Tomfoolery> I just want to open a root window >_<
[21:21] <Sylvie> hi, whenever I plug a HDMI cable in my laptop and try to play some movie, the video goes on fast forward and there is no sound. I just tried re-installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, but the problem is still there.
[21:22] <guntbert> Tomfoolery: why? you really don't need it
[21:22] <seidos> Tomfoolery: try su, let me know what happens
[21:22] <Tomfoolery> guntbert, because it's the only way I know how to do shit
[21:22] <Tomfoolery> seidos,  just type in su?
[21:22] <Tomfoolery> Sure
[21:22] <guntbert> !language | Tomfoolery
[21:22] <dniMretsaM> does 'English" mean correct punctuation. capitalization, etc?
[21:22] <guntbert> !root | Tomfoolery
[21:23]  * seidos laughs
[21:23] <guntbert> seidos: stop that nonsense please
[21:23] <Tomfoolery> guntbert, I'm on there
[21:23] <Tomfoolery> seidos, It does not work. No. I get authentication failure
[21:23] <seidos> oh well, no worries
[21:23] <Sylvie> anyone??
[21:23] <guntbert> !please | Sylvie
[21:24] <prx> "Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, ..." ... set one yourself ;)
[21:24] <guntbert> !noroot | prx
[21:24] <Sylvie> guntbert, I would "avoid using please" if someone would AT LEAST reply
[21:24] <Tomfoolery> guntbert, dammit
[21:25] <seidos> Sylvie: hi
[21:25] <Sylvie> hi
[21:25] <Tomfoolery> Why does everything go wrong when my dad is on holiday?
[21:25] <dniMretsaM> what is the big deal about root passwords?
[21:25] <jjgalvez__> where are the "Dash" "Shortcuts" configured/stored?
[21:25] <guntbert> Sylvie: you will get a reply if someone has an answer for you
[21:25] <Sylvie> so, my video playback is at x2 the normal speed and no sound. anyone with a fix?
[21:25] <Tomfoolery> Why can't I be running fucking puppy again? When I'm always in root?
[21:25] <prx> you guys got these "hints" for every possible fuckup, right? ;)
[21:25] <murph> On my eeepc, if i hibernate, when i restore it the left 3/4ths of my screen are garbled. Any guesses where to go to get help with this?
[21:25] <Flannel> prx, Tomfoolery: Please mind the language, thanks.
[21:25] <guntbert> dniMretsaM: how about you start reading the messages from ubottu ?
[21:25] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: well, with that language and attitude, why not just run windows?
[21:25] <mozeee> when i want to ssh to my server it says: Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. what does it mean?
[21:26] <Flannel> dniMretsaM: There's nothing to be gained by setting one for almost all situations, and there are drawbacks.
[21:26] <oCean> mozeee: I suggest that you start over, creating the key and copying it
[21:26] <Tomfoolery> Flannel, sorry dude. I forget some irc channels don't like that
[21:26] <dniMretsaM> no, I mean why is everybody against setting one? his messages don't explain that. they just say to not use one
[21:26] <Sylvie> why would the video play x2 the normal speed anyway is a total mystery!
[21:26] <mozeee> oCean: i did everthing...o god :(
[21:27] <Tomfoolery> Gnea, because I do like linux, but I was really used to puppy but then my dad installed ubunutu on me and I'm not sure how to do anything on here
[21:27] <oCean> mozeee: it's only 2 or 3 little steps!
[21:27] <Sylvie> it plays normally when there is no HDMI cable plugged in...
[21:27] <mozeee> ok i'll try everything again!
[21:27] <xangua> dniMretsaM: how about r3ading what th3 boy says
[21:27] <diskinetic> Sylvie: do you have another cable to try?
[21:27] <xangua> ggg lost my 3 k3y :S
[21:27] <Flannel> xangua: Please don't.
[21:27] <xangua> what th3 bot says*
[21:28] <xangua> Flannel: don't what¿
[21:28] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: well, at least you've got a distribution that contains a wider array of software now
[21:28] <oCean> mozeee: let me help a little. Start with removing the files in your local ~/.ssh directory
[21:28] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: as for the root terminal, it might be possible that it's already there, and that you just need to add it to the accessories menu
[21:28] <jjgalvez__> is there a unity specific irc?
[21:28] <xangua> jjgalvez__: #ubuntu
[21:28] <dniMretsaM> @xangua: wh@t? I c0u1dn't r3@d wh@y u s@id?
[21:28] <Sylvie> diskinetic, hmm..... I'm no linux freak, but what does the physical cable has to do anything with the video being played at x2 the normal speed??
[21:28] <Tomfoolery> Gnea, I'm in root! my terminal says I'm set as root!
[21:29] <xangua> dniMretsaM: i just said i lost my 3 k3y
[21:29] <Tomfoolery> .... now what do I do?
[21:29] <jjgalvez__> xangua: so just this one, bummer
[21:29] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: okay, but can you open the root terminal by clicking on one item?
[21:29] <diskinetic> Sylvie: was that a yes, or a no?
[21:29] <kizee> Sylvie, could be that the hdmi has dicital protection and the file you are playing is copyrighted etc etc
[21:29] <kizee> digital*
[21:29] <Sylvie> diskinetic, the answer is "no"; I don't have many HDMI cables laying around, and + the HDMI cable works just fine with another computer
[21:30] <Tomfoolery> Gnea, yeah, I have the button for it. Lemme check
[21:30] <Sylvie> diskinetic, this problem is isolated to this computer, and has nothing to do with the physical cable
[21:30] <diskinetic> Sylvie: ok
[21:30] <osmodivs_> Hello, in Gkrellm, How do I know Wich temp is from the North Bridge and South Bridge? I can only see them as temp1, temp2, temp3
[21:30] <Tomfoolery> done it!
[21:30] <Gnea> win
[21:30] <Gnea> :)
[21:30] <Tomfoolery> ^_^
[21:30] <zadok> plz i have got a problem with my new graphic card
[21:31] <Tomfoolery> now I just need to try and set the password. Because my dad set it and now can't remember what it is
[21:31] <Tomfoolery> the cunt
[21:31] <LjL> who-wants-sex-ch: mind changing that nickname please?
[21:31] <Tomfoolery> oh
[21:31] <Tomfoolery> sorry, bad language
[21:31] <Sylvie> diskinetic, actually, this problem was introduced by 11.04 so screw that, I'm rebooting into Win 7 to watch a movie and will fix that darn thing later
[21:31] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: again, with the language. you will be removed from here soon if you keep it up.
[21:31] <guntbert> osmodivs_: depends largely on the model of your notebook
[21:31] <Tomfoolery> sorry! i forgot....
[21:31] <zadok> it's a radeon HD 6770
[21:31] <zadok> i can't play video games, they have all got an error....
[21:31] <Oops> LjL Sorry :)
[21:31] <LjL> ok ;)
[21:31] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: seriously, would you say that sort of language outloud to a group of strangers irl?
[21:31] <diskinetic> Sylvie: yeah, well, at least you could install 11.04
[21:31] <zadok> since i've installed this graphic card
[21:32] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me why indicator-appmenu is not displaying the title?
[21:32] <Tomfoolery> Gnea, ....yeah?
[21:32] <osmodivs_> guntbert, It is a Desktop PC, What do i need to look for in order to find out? I have an Intel DG35EC
[21:32] <Tomfoolery> Gnea, I'm english... all we do is swear at each other
[21:33] <Gnea> Tomfoolery: in your small realm of the world, perhaps. but in the rest of the world, it's considered wrong. don't do it again, please.
[21:33] <guntbert> osmodivs_: you would have to find out, where the sensors are situated - at least for notebooks there a listings to be found
[21:33] <osmodivs_> Tomfoolery, Are you a Pikey?
[21:33] <osmodivs_> ¡sensors
[21:33] <osmodivs_> !sensors
[21:33] <Tomfoolery> osmodivs_, no -_-
[21:34] <toxic> hello everyone,.
[21:34] <zadok> what can i do ? i'm really a noob and i don't know what to do
[21:34] <dniMretsaM> hi toxic
[21:35] <mozeee> oCean: nice! it works :P i did everything again but this time it works! but if i don't want to use ssh-copy-id then what should i do?
[21:35] <gmcdonald> Hi all, got a 10.04.2 with 20 packages updating blah blah please reboot - so I reboot and it tells me 20 packages updating blah blah , ideas ??
[21:36] <toxic> does someone have a way for me to create a raid5 mdadm with only 2 disks (3rd one is coming soon ;) )
[21:36] <sosaited> How can I install Firefox while also keeping the 3.6 installation and profile separate?
[21:36] <sosaited> *Firefox 4 sorry
[21:36] <toxic> sosaited, when you download firefox4 from the official website...
[21:37] <toxic> It's giving you a tarball with a "standalone" firefox 4 in there
[21:37] <oCean> mozeee: glad it works. You would have to copy the contents of the ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the server. But that has to be done carefully, with the permissions etc
[21:37] <oCean> mozeee: while the ssh-copy-id does that all for you!
[21:38] <mozeee> oCean: and what if i want to log in to my server with another client, my lap top for example?
[21:39] <oCean> mozeee: you have to repeat the process. Each client has its own keypair.
[21:40] <guntbert> diskinetic: are you sure that you have enough diskspace on every mounted partition?
[21:40] <Tomfoolery> ooooooh yeah
[21:40] <Tomfoolery> gifured everything out
[21:40] <Tomfoolery> figured*
[21:40] <mozeee> oCean: i mean what happen to that authorized_keys? does it change? or new key will add to it?
[21:40] <Tomfoolery> thanks guys!
[21:41] <diskinetic> guntbert: I did a wipe-install for 11.04 and did a 3-partition setup in 10.10 with 10 gb to the / part.
[21:41] <remlabm> having an issue with mounting ... keep getting "buffer overflow detected" error.. any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[21:41] <oCean> mozeee: ssh-copy-id will add to it. If you add it by hand, you would have to do that very carefully.
[21:41] <Albanian_> ns info tsimpson
[21:41] <diskinetic> guntbert: so I honestly think I had/have enough room set aside
[21:42] <gmcdonald> nobody else had any issues with updates not applying on reboot?
[21:42] <mozeee> oCean: i mean then there would be two authorized_keys files something like authorized_keys, authorized_keys2  ???? or all keys gonna be there in authorized_keys!??
[21:43] <napz>  #django
[21:43] <guntbert> diskinetic: seems plausible - but there has to be a reason for that error - does the system still run after the failed upgrade?
[21:43] <diskinetic> guntbert: nope, unusable, forced to re-install
[21:43] <toxic> does someone have a way for me to create a raid5 mdadm with only 2 disks (3rd one is coming soon ;) )
[21:43] <guntbert> mozeee: only authorized_keys is needed now
[21:44] <guntbert> diskinetic: idea: try it in a virtual machine
[21:44] <diskinetic> guntbert: gonna try a fresh burn of 11.04, but if that doesn't work, I'm gonna stay with 10.10 until a new LSB floats by
[21:45] <diskinetic> guntbert: I have no idea how to do that
[21:45] <tmos_22> Anyone using Eclipse on 11.04?
[21:45] <Miguelpcn> hello... I will install Ubuntu.    I have a concern in regards to the command line
[21:45] <guntbert> diskinetic: you could install virtualbox...
[21:45] <seidos> diskinetic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[21:45] <Miguelpcn> I heard that when you use linux you must use the command line all the time......does that apply to ubuntu as well?
[21:46] <tmos_22> No
[21:46] <diskinetic> arg, sounds like work
[21:46] <guntbert> diskinetic: before burning do check the iso
[21:46] <diskinetic> yup, that's the plan
[21:46] <diskinetic> :)
[21:46] <tmos_22> Ubuntu is more user friendly for people not used to Linux
[21:46] <diskinetic> okay, I'm off to try
[21:46] <Miguelpcn> My sister is an accontant and want to switch from windows to linux.... I thought that ubuntu would be a goo choice for her
[21:46] <ThinkT510> Miguelpcn: ubuntu is very gui-orientated
[21:47] <Miguelpcn> ok...   and she has many office files  .xls .doc .xdoc etc....
[21:47] <Miguelpcn> will she be able to read/write to them with openoffice?
[21:47] <guntbert> Miguelpcn: yes
[21:47] <thr> yh miquel no prob
[21:47] <dniMretsaM> Ubuntu can b 11% point-and-click if you want it to. And LibreOffice/OpenOffice works with those types of files
[21:48] <dniMretsaM> 100%, not 11% lol fail
[21:48] <gmcdonald> anyone know where the Ubuntu devs hang out, or someone who can actually answer my question?
[21:48] <Miguelpcn> lol   cool!  thanks guys for your help
[21:49] <ThinkT510> Miguelpcn: depends on the documents, i've come across some terrible formatted documents that only work in ms office
[21:49] <kim__> quick question, is it safe to delete the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives   ?
[21:49] <Miguelpcn> ThinkT510: what extension were they?
[21:49] <guntbert> gmcdonald: no, I have never seen that before - I suggest you try to update from the commend line to see if there are errors
[21:49] <Albanian> Byeee All
[21:49] <guntbert> *command line
[21:49] <ThinkT510> Miguelpcn: .doc
[21:49]  * Albanian Bye rww
[21:50] <gmcdonald> guntbert: I am updating from the command line
[21:50] <Miguelpcn> uhn....
[21:50] <gmcdonald> guntbert: its the server version
[21:50] <Miguelpcn> that can be a problem then   :S
[21:50] <Tanendaun> how could I change HAL of ubuntu core?
[21:50] <ThinkT510> Miguelpcn: but on the whole, if the docs aren't complicated they should be fine
[21:50] <gmcdonald> yep
[21:50] <Henriquez> ok, i have my (sub)domains setup correctly now but i want to serve content from a different server in my LAN to ldap.domain.TLD (phpldapadmin) is that possible with virtualhosts?
[21:50] <guntbert> gmcdonald: lets move over to #ubuntu-server
[21:51] <ThinkT510> Miguelpcn: you can always try installing libreoffice on windows to test if the docs are fine then make the switch to linux
[21:52] <Tanendaun> pidori
[21:52] <kim__> hmm, I answered my own question,  aptitude clean will do it for me
[21:52] <Miguelpcn> ThinkT510: cool.....thanks very much
[21:52] <braiam> I have no tty, using natty, GC: Ati x1300
[21:53] <FishFace> gmcdonald: I had that problem like you on a laptop at work. Kept saying 20 updates. Ran them. Same message. BUT - It stopped doing that after like 2 or 3 days.
[21:53] <ThinkT510> Miguelpcn: np, another solution is installing ms office through wine on linux (i know ms office 2003 works)
[21:54] <gmcdonald> FishFace: thanks
[21:54] <FishFace> gmcdonald: I know that isn't helping you much. Just sayin.
[21:54] <FishFace> :)
[22:01] <mozeee> oCean: how can i remove the remove the public key on my pc?
[22:05] <admac> hmm
[22:06] <fr00g> Can anybody tell me why indicator-appmenu isn't displaying the title of the active window?
[22:06] <hihihi100> how do I get rid of duplicated sources?
[22:08] <hemza_> i can not connect to my server using vpn trough windows // error 619
[22:09] <Roasted> What am I doing wrong? --------- sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.147:/jason2 /media/NAS
[22:09] <wafa> hi
[22:10] <dniMretsaM> hey wafa lol
[22:10] <wafa> while trying to remove some applications using synaptic admin
[22:10] <wafa> i accidently removed the python
[22:10] <wafa> and then others programs were removed
[22:11] <wafa> and i lost the graphic interface of ubuntu 10.10
[22:11] <hdon> hi all :) does sshd record authentication methods? will the log tell me what key was used if it was a key-based login?
[22:12] <wafa> can you help me pls
[22:13] <wafa> hi dniMretsaM
[22:13] <finalblogger> hi guys
[22:13] <wafa> i have some troubles with ubuntu 10.10
[22:13] <finalblogger> wafa try 11.04
[22:14] <finalblogger> its great
[22:14] <wafa> i must get but this version coz i may lose my files
[22:14] <finalblogger> hmm check about upgrade option
[22:14] <wafa> is there any way to reinstall it through the command line
[22:15] <finalblogger> wafa i am also a new ubuntu user
[22:15] <BlouBlou> wafa: no
[22:15] <finalblogger> i need help for ubuntu tutorials
[22:15] <BlouBlou> wafa: unless you mean Alternate CD
[22:15] <finalblogger> i love this language
[22:15] <finalblogger> i mean OS
[22:17] <finalblogger> any useful links
[22:17] <finalblogger> plz
[22:18] <HiQuality> finalblogger: for tutorials i suggest youtube.
[22:18] <finalblogger> have tried that option
[22:19] <finalblogger> not much detailed stuff there
[22:19] <HiQuality> finalblogger: what kind of tutorials do you need then?
[22:19] <finalblogger> ubuntu file system and settings
[22:19] <BlouBlou> finalblogger: the best tutorial it's investigating yourself and learning from mistakes/errors you do
[22:20] <rbridgew> .
[22:20] <asger> i have a problem with sound. When ubuntu starts up, theres no sound. I have to adjust it by going through the terminal in alsamixer. How do i mke it so that i don't have to do that each time i start up ubuntu?
[22:21] <finalblogger> thanks for advice
[22:21] <shugyosha> p tout le monde
[22:21] <shugyosha> yop
[22:21] <shugyosha> qulequ'un pour déprimer avec moi ce soir ?
[22:22] <HiQuality> finalblogger: have you registered into ubuntuforums.com? they have nice tutorials for beginners.
[22:22] <finalblogger> great
[22:22] <finalblogger> thanks HiQuality
[22:22] <HiQuality> finalblogger: no problem!
[22:23] <HiQuality> finalblogger: oops! got the address wrong! it's ubuntuforums.org!
[22:23] <finalblogger> google is great HiQuality
[22:23] <finalblogger> lol
[22:23] <HiQuality> heh!
[22:23] <finalblogger> already corrected
[22:24] <HiQuality> lucky me! THANKS GOOGLE!
[22:25] <stravant> If I get an error "/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_source_get_time'" trying to build any gtk+ code, and I know that the function in question is in "glibmm-2.4", how can I get the linker to find it?
[22:27] <mayanks43> hey there
[22:28] <mayanks43> I am trying to boot 11.04 on xps 15 but i seem to be getting the error can't read /dev/sr0 no medium found
[22:28] <mayanks43> I doing usb booting
[22:28] <mayanks43> *am
[22:28] <mithridates> how can I make an alias permanent?
[22:29] <th0r> mithridates: add it to ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc?
[22:30] <mithridates> th0r: is it the right way of doing it?
[22:30] <th0r> mithridates: one of them is....I can never rremember which is which. I think you will only find one in ~ by default, and it should already contain a couple of examples
[22:30] <gigah> when i try to do a "sudo apt-get upgrade", i get "Preconfiguring packages ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault."  any ideas?  i have already googled and tried removing the cache, reinstalling apt-get w/ aptitude, etc.  i have also already ran a file system check via a live cd.
[22:31] <mithridates> th0r: ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly. this comment was in bashrc , thanks :)
[22:31] <th0r> mithridates: must be another ubuntu 'improvement'
[22:31] <Isonyx> Hey, could someone help me out a bit? I'm running Ubuntu Linux and the program bar at the bottom dissapeared. Could anyone help?
[22:31] <mithridates> th0r: haha, yes
[22:32] <th0r> Isonyx: add a panel at the bottom of the screen and put the task bar in it
[22:32] <mayanks43> this is the error: /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found .... that is spammed on my screen
[22:33] <gigah> any ideas on why dpkg would be seg faulting during "preconfiguring packages"?
[22:33] <gigah> any way to get a more verbose log output?  -V only works on expanding version #s
[22:33] <mayanks43> nd then it returns to a screen (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[22:33] <mayanks43> it works on another machine
[22:34] <mayanks43> but not on this one :(
[22:34] <gigah> anyone? =-/
[22:34] <silner> mayanks43: Do you have a USB drive attached on the problem machine?
[22:34] <mayanks43> yup
[22:35] <mayanks43> tht's how it showed up the live cd screen
[22:35] <mayanks43> and then when i selected try without installing
[22:35] <mayanks43> this showed up
[22:36] <naptastic> Hi! I'm compiling software which depends on a library called libgvc. I've installed the package libgvc5 (which has no -dev companion) and it doesn't fulfill the dependency. What am I missing?
[22:36] <silner> And same when you installed? I got that - Grub makes an error - not sure why yet - but easy to edit Grub menu
[22:36] <gigah> naptastic: have you verified your LD_LIBRARY_PATH contains the lib you need?
[22:37] <mayanks43> yup same when I select install on hard disk
[22:37] <naptastic> gigah, nevermind, the developer told me what it is. Graphviz and graphviz-dev... I'm going to suggest he change the line in his wscript. :-)
[22:37] <silner> mayanks43: You need to edit the Grub menu - hang on I'll have a look for the help I used
[22:37] <trism> naptastic: it is in libgraphviz-dev
[22:37] <naptastic> trism, thank you!!! :-)
[22:37] <mayanks43> thnx silner
[22:38] <gigah> any ideas on troubleshooting dpkg seg faulting during an apt-get upgrade?
[22:39] <naptastic> gigah, eek! that's a scary failure. Have you done memtest86?
[22:39] <gigah> do i have to do that from a live cd?
[22:39] <naptastic> gigah, no, you select it from the grub menu on boot.
[22:40] <gigah> how do i get to grub menu again?
[22:40] <naptastic> gigah, the bad news is you can't use your computer for a while.
[22:40] <naptastic> gigah, when you restart your computer, the grub menu should come up before Ubuntu starts loading.
[22:40] <vex_> what is a program i can use to rip a dvd off of a disk that has drm on it
[22:41] <nit-wit> Vex; brasero works the drm doesn't keep you from ripping a cd
[22:42] <nit-wit> or dvd it is the playback that is affected if you burn it.
[22:42] <wafa> can we modify the sources.list from the command line?
[22:42] <LjL> wafa: yes
[22:42] <nit-wit> wafa, you want nano
[22:42] <vex_> nit-wit: i would just like to get the image off of the dvd so i can play it off of my computer, brasero will do that?
[22:42] <nit-wit> brasro will work
[22:43] <gigah_> sorry firefox crashed on me as well
[22:43] <nit-wit> vex; should always had for me.
[22:43] <gigah_> maybe it really is bad ram =-/
[22:43] <cbukowski> anybody have a problem in firefox on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:44] <cbukowski> i have an extension problem, i don't install any extension in 11.04
[22:44] <nit-wit> wafa, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:44] <nit-wit> cbukowski, extension?
[22:45] <cbukowski> nit-wit: add-ons
[22:46] <nit-wit> cbukowski, so what is your exact problem?
[22:46] <cbukowski> i'm trying to install some add-ons after upgrading from 9.04 11.04 downloading the add-ons but can't install :(
[22:47] <nit-wit> cbukowski, are you getting a not available for for that version of FF?
[22:47] <cbukowski> and sync don't work too
[22:47] <cbukowski> i'm tried delete firefox and install again but nothing changed
[22:47] <nit-wit> cbukowski, are you using FF sync
[22:48] <cbukowski> my ff version is 4.0.1
[22:48] <nit-wit> cuband
[22:48] <Cuchulainn> hi all...i changed some compiz settings that caused a conflict with unity...i was able to go to classic mode, fire up ccsm and resolve the conflicts a little reconfig, and my classic now looks like unity, but logging in to 'ubuntu', it's still hosed..any suggestions?
[22:48] <silner> mayanks43: This is being discussed mayanks43 http://scottiestech.info/2011/05/04/grub-problem-in-ubuntu-server-11-04-natty-narwhal/ but I can't find the solution now. I should have copied it :( Still looking....
[22:48] <cbukowski> i'm trying but nothing change.. sync page cannot seen on ff
[22:48] <nit-wit> cbukowski, and take a look at the questions if you can otherwise we run around in circles.;)
[22:49] <mayanks43> ok :(
[22:49] <cbukowski> i'm using 4.0.1 v of FF and i'm trying to open FF sync but cannot seen on in FF
[22:50] <nit-wit> cbukowski, look in preferences
[22:50] <cbukowski> hmm wait, i'm lookin
[22:50] <nit-wit> cbukowski, you have to sync it not hard, after you know how.
[22:51] <vex_> nit-wit: thanks
[22:52] <asger> i have a problem with sound. When ubuntu starts up, theres no sound. I have to adjust it by going through the terminal in alsamixer. How do i mke it so that i don't have to do that each time i start up ubuntu?
[22:52] <nit-wit> vex_; no problem.;)
[22:52] <ryguy> Hey. after I install SWAMI, when I try to open it, nothing happens.. any idea whats going on?
[22:53] <trism> Cuchulainn: when you log into the Ubuntu session, try ctrl+alt+t then: unity --reset &
[22:53] <mjrosenb> hey, the X server seems to be lagging something fierce
[22:53] <mjrosenb> anyone have similar issues/know what might be wrong/know what i can do to debug this?
[22:54] <Cuchulainn> trism, that's part of the prob...can't bring up the term. window in unity...do you think tty session will work?
[22:55] <cbukowski> nit-wit: sync complated.. but add-ons have problem again :(
[22:55] <nit-wit> cbukowski, cool what is the add-ons error
[22:55] <trism> Cuchulainn: it worked from the classic session too for me, but it kind of messed up the session (until I logged out/back in) (when I logged into the unity session it seemed to be reset though)
[22:55] <cbukowski> download is complated but installing have a problem.. download but don't install :(
[22:56] <nit-wit> cbukowski, are you using the addon tab from the FF dropdown
[22:56] <Cuchulainn> trism, i will try, one sec
[22:57] <cbukowski> i'm opening the add-ons from menu
[22:57] <nit-wit> cbukowski, you know a restart is needed for addons correct?
[22:57] <cbukowski> and after search addon and install
[22:57] <cbukowski> downloading complate but install can't
[22:57] <cbukowski> sorry about my english
[22:57] <nit-wit> cbukowski, give me one not working I will try it
[22:57] <nit-wit> cbukowski, no problem.;)
[22:57] <wafa> yofel
[22:58] <wafa> can you help me pls
[22:58] <cbukowski> adblock-plus :(
[22:58] <jackson6> helo
[22:58] <nit-wit> cbukowski, I know that one works, are you opening FF in a other then clicking on the menu icon.
[22:58] <jackson6> I am trying to do a PXE netboot install.
[22:59] <jackson6> but I have to switch networks to get to the internet
[22:59] <yofel> wafa: help with what?
[22:59] <cbukowski> yep i'm starting from the menu
[23:00] <dupondje> hmmm, trying to play dvd's with totem, and it fails with "Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed."
[23:00] <dupondje> any idea's ?
[23:00] <cbukowski> wait i'll try to install from add-ons site
[23:00] <ricardo_> Hello Every one...
[23:00] <nit-wit> cbukowski, yeah that is a good idea.;)
[23:01] <bogus123> yo guys. i compiled compat-wireless in order to get aircrack-ng working, which it does now. now, whenever i try connecting to a wifi with networkmanager or wicd, i get a kernel panic (that i don't know how to observe - i only see keyboard leds flashing). i reinstalled linux-image-`uname -r` as well as linux-firmware. what else can i try?
[23:01] <wafa> i have some trouble Yofel
[23:01] <nit-wit> cbukowski, if you have any failed loads sitting there they will I don't think you can overwrite them.
[23:01] <wafa> i lost my graphic interface
[23:01] <cbukowski> nothing changed
[23:02] <wafa> under ubuntu 10.10
[23:02] <ricardo_> I have a have a problem with Ubuntu 11.04. The Unity don't start the side bar when I logon.
[23:02] <cbukowski> i'm trying the delete profiles
[23:02] <yofel> wafa: how? and do you get to the login screen?
[23:02] <petsounds> dupondje, you need libdvdcss
[23:02] <wafa> i have only a textual access
[23:02] <BlouBlou> wafa: startx
[23:03] <yofel> wafa: on ubuntu, sudo service gdm start
[23:03] <yofel> that should give you the login screen
[23:03] <jerg4> dupondje: install codecs. Software center -> codec
[23:03] <dupondje> petsounds: its installed :s
[23:03] <wafa> bloublou : this is a command?
[23:03] <BlouBlou> wafa: It is
[23:03] <yofel> wafa: if it doesn't start, we need your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:03] <ricardo_> Can somebody help me, please?
[23:04] <mjrosenb> next question: are there any plans to keep the binary nvidia drivers working in ubuntu?
[23:04] <ricardo_> I have a have a problem with Ubuntu 11.04. The Unity don't start the side bar and the top bar when I logon.
[23:05] <petsounds> dupondje, i had the same problem like u when playing this chariots of fire dvd but after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs all is ok
[23:05] <ricardo_> I have a problem with Ubuntu 11.04. The Unity don't start the side bar when I logon.
[23:05] <BlouBlou> ricardo_: 1) you need 3D rendering to do it. 2) If you're using Geforce FX 5***, you need to wait for a patch, it's a confirmed bug
[23:05] <wafa> but how can i have it yofel?
[23:05] <yofel> wafa: have what?
[23:06] <BlouBlou> mjrosenb: subscribe to that bug's mailing list and wait for the patch
[23:06] <wafa> var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:06] <Cuchulainn> trism, no, go..i get what looks like unassigned variable errors in the /usr/bin/unity file...no worries, data is backed up 11.04 .iso is half d/l'd and my main computer is still running maverick neway (you can prolly guess why)..
[23:06] <mjrosenb> BlouBlou: which bug?
[23:06] <yofel> wafa: install pastebinit, then run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and give us the link
[23:06] <wafa> since i have only access the the command line
[23:06] <yofel> wafa: to install it run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[23:06] <Cuchulainn> trism,  was a valiant effort though, and i preciate it. thank you
[23:07] <kingofswords> hi ihow do i find the made of my wifi card?
[23:07] <trism> Cuchulainn: sorry we couldn't figure it out
[23:07] <BlouBlou> mjrosenb: you mean this, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/772207
[23:07] <cbukowski> nit-wit: i'm resolve the problem
[23:07] <kingofswords> hwdetect --show-net' or 'lshwd' doesnt work?
[23:07] <cbukowski> after delete all files in profiles
[23:07] <Cuchulainn> trism, not your fault...no half measures..when i hose something, it's HOSED...lol
[23:07] <cbukowski> thanx for your help dude
[23:08] <wafa> ok yofel i'll do it
[23:08] <ricardo_> BlouBlou: I don't have a GeForce. The Unity already work fine. After that I logon on Ubuntu Classic session and return to Ubuntu (Unity) session it stop.
[23:08] <wafa> and get back to u
[23:08] <nit-wit> cbukowski, cool was it the profile?
[23:08] <mjrosenb> BlouBlou: Maybe? I just poked at the nvidia site, they have 173 marked as legacy, and 270 marked as 'current'
[23:08] <Cuchulainn> trism, and now i know the reset for unity, for a less dire f*up..
[23:09] <BlouBlou> mjrosenb: that's for newest graphic cards
[23:09] <cbukowski>  /home/uname/.mozilla/firefox/numbers/
[23:09] <cbukowski> files :)
[23:10] <mjrosenb> BlouBlou: the *real* issue is that the mouse and keyboard are lagging by a couple of seconds.
[23:11] <tgf> hello
[23:11] <kbrewer> hi
[23:11] <kingofswords> how do i determine what wireless card i have?
[23:12] <tgf> my graphic card doesnt support unity and i have no control with the mouse. how do i get rid of unity by command? can some1 help?
[23:12] <dupondje> petsounds: installed it, and installed libcss, but still same error :
[23:12] <dupondje> :(
[23:12] <harlar>  /quit
[23:13] <Cuchulainn> tgf, sign in to a ubuntu classic session? or can you not get that far?
[23:13] <ricardo_> tgf: type unity --restart
[23:13] <Masshuu> I'm getting [[: not found
[23:14] <Masshuu> :/
[23:15] <zacharyalexstern> What does it mean when an icon on the unity dock has two little indicators to the left of it, instead of just the single triangle?
[23:15] <dupondje> This is sad :( totem fails to play dvd, vlc has memory leak to play dvd
[23:15] <dupondje> :(
[23:15] <petsounds> dupondje, well then im sorry i cant help you, cause installing libdvdcss works for me. perhaps try another media player?
[23:15] <Cuchulainn> zacharyalexstern, that you have two instances of that application open..
[23:16] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, Really? I don't though. Must be some weird adobe air thing.
[23:17] <Cuchulainn> zacharyalexstern, possibly..just guessing then, but maybe one is the installer/or adobe air shell and the other the application?
[23:17] <geus_> kingofswords, try lspci | grep Network
[23:17] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, No idea really, but the installer is long gone.
[23:17] <kingofswords> geus thx
[23:17] <blargg> zacharyalexstern, the System Monitor would tell you for sure whether there is more than one.
[23:17] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, also when I run any AIR app, it hides the dock even if the app isn't fullscreen. It's some weird AIR thing.
[23:17] <kingofswords> found it now thou
[23:17] <geus_> youŕe welcome
[23:18] <Cuchulainn> zacharyalexstern, gotta love the ghost in the machine...it's like using windows
[23:18] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, I actually love Windows. For some things.
[23:18] <duncan-nz> What's it called when I want to see a remote computers screen directly on my desktop?
[23:18] <zacharyalexstern> duncan-nz, remote desktop :P
[23:18] <Captainkrtek> duncan-nz: VNC?
[23:18] <blargg> Cuchulainn, I've always found Adobe software to do screwed up things.
[23:18] <geus_> full screen modus?
[23:18] <kingofswords> that was better way thou
[23:18] <duncan-nz> zacharyalexstern, no, then other way to do it. When the x-session gets sent directly to me.
[23:18] <camoy> Why doesn't autokey-gdk show up in the tray in Natty Narhwal, but it did in Maverick....
[23:19] <camoy> Why doesn't autokey-gdk show up in the tray in Natty Narhwal, but it did in Maverick....
[23:19] <duncan-nz> How do I set my running application to be remembered between sessions? I could do that in 10.10.
[23:19] <tgf> my graphic card doesnt support unity and i have no control with the mouse. how do i get rid of unity by command? can some1 help?
[23:20] <duncan-nz> tgf, when you log in choose Ubuntu (classic)
[23:20] <ricardo_> tgf: try type unity --restart
[23:20] <tgf> i have it set to auto-login...
[23:20] <tgf> unity is not supporter
[23:20] <tgf> supported by graphic card.
[23:20] <Cuchulainn> zacharyalexstern, for myself, i think 'love' is prolly a little strong, but i work in a windows world..and yeah  gets it pretty right, with some glaring exceptions..not to experienced with AA..
[23:20] <duncan-nz> tgf, well, unset that first.
[23:20] <camoy> Is there a way to open a tray application when there isn't a tray icon?
[23:20] <tgf> how do i do that?
[23:20] <tgf> i have no control
[23:20] <tgf> only command mode
[23:21] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, I definitely mean love.
[23:21] <duncan-nz> tgf, please try not to press return all the time. From command line? don't know sorry.
[23:21] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, From the corporate perspective. I always tell people to buy mac for home, windows for work.
[23:21] <zacharyalexstern> Anyway this is offtopic.
[23:21] <Xqtftqx> i brought root1 in here since this channel is usually really overflooded... and root1 is a kindle
[23:21] <Cuchulainn> zacharyalexstern, you are free to elaborate, if you wanna gush, i'm not a hater of their products, just their practices..
[23:22] <camoy> Why doesn't autokey-gdk show up in the tray in Natty Narhwal, but it did in Maverick....
[23:22] <zacharyalexstern> Cuchulainn, I'm indifferent to their practices. I use Ubuntu because I like Ubuntu, not because I care about FLOSS or anything like that.
[23:22] <duncan-nz> Cuchulainn, guys, this is not a general chat channel.
[23:22] <Cuchulainn> zacharyalexstern, i do the same, although for the more astute, i point them towards a linux solution..
[23:22] <niedostepny> .
[23:22] <duncan-nz> Anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to remember my running applications between sessions?
[23:22] <Cuchulainn> duncan-nz, sorry...it just became that ...i'll rein it in
[23:23] <duncan-nz> Cuchulainn, it happens. But this is a busy channel with people trying to get help.
[23:24] <Cuchulainn> duncan-nz, of course you're right...again, apologies
[23:25] <sburwood1> I created a new partition on my only hard drive.  My /home has grown too small and I want to transfer what's on it onto the new partition.  The problem is that I can't copy paste onto the new partition.
[23:25] <duncan-nz> Cuchulainn, do you know how to run a remote machines x-session on this machine? Or even what that's called so I can find the solution myself?
[23:25] <duncan-nz> sburwood1, why not?
[23:25] <sburwood1> What do I need to do to get the data from /home into a safe place while I resize the partition
[23:25] <zacharyalexstern> Is there a way to tune-down the desktop effects in Unity? Like lower the quality of the rendering or something? My widdle netbook can't handle it well.
[23:26] <th0r> sburwood1: copy it to an external drive?
[23:26] <duncan-nz> zacharyalexstern, not that I know of. you could try unity-2d instead. but it's missing some important functionality if you ask me.
[23:26] <Cuchulainn> duncan-nz, err...solution to what?
[23:27] <zacharyalexstern> duncan-nz, Yeah I agree. I already tried Unity-2d, I don't love it.
[23:27] <duncan-nz> Cuchulainn, to how to run a remote machines x-session on this machine, or even just what that's called.
[23:27] <sburwood1> th0r: I don't have an external drive.  I have a 250GB drive.  Had prepared a 25 GB partition for / and another for /home.  The rest is free unallocated space
[23:27] <sburwood1> internal
[23:28] <blargg> sburwood1, so before you began, everything was on a single partition mounted at / ?
[23:28] <Moopz> Hey.
[23:28] <duncan-nz> sburwood1, you could create a partition at the very end of the disk for temporary storage. Once you're finished delete it and grow the last partition to fill it. But it must be the last partition.
[23:28] <illmortal> Anyone have a tutorial on how to back up Ubuntu, format HDD (which currently has Windows 7 in the first partition of the HDD), and re-install backed up Ubuntu? I'd like to get rid of windows.
[23:29] <Celphish> I have to say, Ubuntu 11.04 is very nice so far! Just fix a way to configure the launcher a tad more and I'm happy
[23:29] <sburwood1> blargg: No, I had one partition /sda1 for / and /sda2 for /home
[23:29] <Moopz> After having a serious crash, I am now on Ubuntu LiveCD. I am trying to mount the drive that crashed but I am getting DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending - Anyone know anything? Tried google without much luck
[23:29] <sburwood1> duncan-nz: Why must it be the last partition?
[23:29] <duncan-nz> illmortal, you just need a copy of your /home directory. Once ubuntu is installed again. drop it in again with a live cd.
[23:29] <blargg> sburwood1,  and /sda2 became too full, so you created a third partition and want to move the contents of /home to it?
[23:30] <angheloko> illmortal backup / but exclude some drives ie - -exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys /
[23:30] <illmortal> duncan-nz and I won't need to re-install drivers for my video card and other applications?
[23:30] <duncan-nz> sburwood1, otherwise grub can get confused about where you're partitions are. if the fifths partition suddenly becomes the fourth... I think that problem has been solved, but I'm not sure.
[23:31] <th0r> sburwood1: why not leave it as is and use the remaining space as a third partition? You could mount it to /home/data or something like that
[23:31] <sburwood1> duncan-nz: I used gparted to create a partition for data ... I left 25 GB space between /sda3 and /sda2 so I had space to expand /sda2 (home) from 25 to 50  GB
[23:31] <geus_> illmortal, try clonezilla from USB drive, works fine for me: http://clonezilla.org/
[23:31] <duncan-nz> illmortal, how can you re-install without re-installing?
[23:31] <th0r> sburwood1: that should have been /home/user/data <smile>
[23:31] <duncan-nz> sburwood1, one moment.
[23:32] <blargg> duncan-nz, sounds like illmortal just wants to move his Ubuntu partition to the beginning of the drive, where his Windows one is currently.
[23:32] <illmortal> duncan-nz, I simply want to back up an image of what I currently have. That way after I re-install Ubuntu on my drive.. I just have to "restore" my backed up image.
[23:32] <illmortal> ya blargg.. I'm getting rid of windows.
[23:32] <duncan-nz> Does GRUB still use relative partition paths? Or does it use UUIDs?
[23:32] <sburwood1> th0r: My idea is to save critical data on a partition long enough to make sure I don't lose anything while I resize /home
[23:32] <duncan-nz> th0r, is just correcting what you wrote.
[23:33] <blargg> sburwood1, yeah, so your third partition is just temporary while you resize /home.
[23:33] <sburwood1> th0r: Because I get messages that there is only 500 mb space left on /home
[23:33] <duncan-nz> I mean sburwood1, th0r is just correcting what you wrote.
[23:33] <sburwood1> blargg: But I need room between /home and the other partition for expansion
[23:33] <th0r> sburwood1: you could mount the third partition inside /home...for instance, if it is your photos that are taking all the space you could mount the third partition as /home/user/photo
[23:34] <duncan-nz> blargg, do you know if grub still loses track of partitions if they switch places?
[23:34] <th0r> sburwood1: you could mount it to a temp location until you copied all the data, then make an entry in /etc/fstab to put it in the right place from then on
[23:34] <blargg> sburwood1, I'm no expert, but why would grub need to know about /home?
[23:34] <duncan-nz> th0r, that doesn't work. You get a recurrin copy routine!
[23:34] <th0r> duncan-nz: nope...I have done it.
[23:35] <Celphish> Anyone got any tips for other irc-clients than xchat? Heard something about some called iirc or something like that?
[23:35] <sburwood1> blargg: I'm no expert at all.  I'm on the learning curve ... and it's getting steep for me ...
[23:35] <Moopz> After having a serious crash, I am now on Ubuntu LiveCD. I am trying to mount the drive that crashed but I am getting DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending - Anyone know anything? Tried google without much luck
[23:35] <illmortal> Can I just delete the Windows partition and expand my Ubuntu's partition onto where the windows partition was without having any problems?
[23:35] <th0r> duncan-nz: you need to put the third partition in a temp location, mount it to /media/temp for instance. Then do the copy, then delete /home/user/photo, then mount the third partition to /home/user/photo
[23:35] <duncan-nz> th0r, oh so you take a copy of everything except the mount directory - I get it. But that is not a backup.
[23:35] <rww> Celphish: perhaps you mean irssi?
[23:36] <th0r> duncan-nz: no it isn't...but he wants to add the free space to home. I was just pointing out you don't need to resize the partition to effectively add the free space to /home/user
[23:36] <duncan-nz> sburwood1, if you're unsure just borrow a removable disc from a friend for a half hour.
[23:36] <Celphish> rww, I don't know, a colleague said something about a client he recommended, but can't remember which.. It almost looks like a terminal, very simplified chat-gui
[23:36] <sburwood1> I think that I'm just going to try to backup with Nepomuk
[23:36] <angheloko> @illmortal, yes you can using gparted but as always, do a backup first
[23:37] <duncan-nz> Celphish, that irssi for sure.
[23:37] <illmortal> How do I go about restoring my back up in case something goes wrong though? o.O;
[23:37] <Celphish> duncan-nz, oh, is it good? Secure and so on? and not too hard to configure for a nub used to windows? =)
[23:37] <duncan-nz> illmortal, use a different physical disc.
[23:37] <sburwood1> duncan-nz: Here in Belgium, it's hard to find, someone who'll lend you a disc ... for a second, let alone a half an hour
[23:37] <en1gma> is there a way to get google talk to work in ubuntu? i mean so i can make and receive calls with my headset?
[23:38] <sburwood1> duncan-nz: Unless they ask for money in exchange
[23:38] <illmortal> duncan-nz so when I create a back up.. it'll become a file that I just simply double-click for it to restore itself?
[23:38] <angheloko> illmortal, to backup: tar cvpzf /home/user/backupfile.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys /
[23:38] <duncan-nz> sburwood1, oh, here in Denmark it's no problem, maybe you don't have enough nerdy friends?
[23:38] <sburwood1> anyway, I'm getting tired, so I'll think about the problem and find a solution
[23:38] <angheloko> illmortal to restore tar xvpfz backupfile.tgz -C /
[23:38] <illmortal> ok angheloko
[23:39] <illmortal> gonna write that out :D
[23:39] <Guest20966> is there any documentation for unity?
[23:39] <duncan-nz> illmortal, no no. just a directory full of the files you put there. this is a manual backup i'm talking about.
[23:39] <en1gma> anyone know what i mean? google calls?
[23:39] <angheloko> illmortal, if u want a gui there's some out there like grsync or simple backup
[23:39] <duncan-nz> en1gma, be patient please.
[23:40] <sburwood1> duncan-nz: I don't have that many nerdy friends, but I try to learn so as to not need them, as nothing is given here for free.  Of course, in the church where I go, things are different, but....
[23:40] <en1gma> ok
[23:40] <sburwood1> anyway, good night
[23:40] <sburwood1> and thanks everyone
[23:40] <duncan-nz> illmortal, without using a seperate disc you are not really making a backup, just two copies of the same data. If the disc dies so does your data.
[23:41]  * Guest20966 should probably find a better way to phrase that question
[23:41] <ShaunDreclin> Hey im trying to install ubuntu on the same partition as windows, is this doable?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> ShaunDreclin: sure you can use wubi
[23:41] <duncan-nz> ShaunDreclin, no. that will kill windows.
[23:41] <illmortal> ya I have a 2nd physical disk which I used for backing up Windows only... but I no longer want to use windows.. so I'll just make that drive my backup for Ubuntu
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> ShaunDreclin: alternatively,resize the NTFS and you can install a true install
[23:41] <duncan-nz> ShaunDreclin, he's right. forgot that.
[23:41] <cablop> i have a folder with files from different users, let's say i need to change the ownership of files of monica to sandra, but let the other file's folder's ownership intact... is there a command for that?
[23:42] <angheloko> illmortal, then you'll have to update the command that i gave you... your backup file should reside in your spare partition
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> cablop: sudo chown -R sandra:sandra foldername
[23:42] <escott> cablop, some combination of find and exec should work
[23:42] <ShaunDreclin> Im worried about re-partitioning cause i dont want to lose any data
[23:42] <duncan-nz> ShaunDreclin, you get that option when you install Ubuntu. I think it's called 'resize windows to make space for ubuntu'
[23:42] <ShaunDreclin> Is it possible to resize it without losing anything
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ShaunDreclin: your backups will cover that for you
[23:42] <cablop> find and exec... i thought thet, but dunno how to use that find command enough for that
[23:42] <ShaunDreclin> Ahh okay ill look for that
[23:43] <angheloko> ShaunDreclin, defrag your windows first before you resize it
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ShaunDreclin: yes, if you use win7 it can resize its own partitions
[23:43] <ShaunDreclin> Winxp :p
[23:43] <cablop> escott: ah! find will only exec if i got the right file, right?
[23:43] <duncan-nz> angheloko, good point!
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ShaunDreclin: then you will use the Ubuntu CD to resize
[23:43] <rww> cablop: try sudo find /path/to/folder -user monica -exec chown sandra {}\;
[23:44] <escott> cablop, yes. another approach would be to su to sandra and then execute the chown as sandra, assuming that sandra can't chant tom's file ownership
[23:44] <Moopz> After having a serious crash, I am now on Ubuntu LiveCD. I am trying to mount the drive that crashed but I am getting DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending - Anyone know anything? Tried google without much luck
[23:44] <duncan-nz> ShaunDreclin, I find the defragmenter from the people who make ccleaner to be much more thorough than the windows one.
[23:45] <ShaunDreclin> Alright ill run that then the ubuntu installer can resize my ntfs drive?
[23:45] <escott> i love how man find | grep owner doesn't bring up the -user or -uid options..
[23:45] <duncan-nz> How do I fetch an x-session on a different computer?
[23:45] <duncan-nz> ShaunDreclin, yes. the defragmenting this just makes it work faster.
[23:45] <cablop> escott: yes i wanted to try that, but i cannot ensure sandra is able to change monica's files
[23:46] <ShaunDreclin> Ahh alright, been ages since i defragged anyway
[23:46] <cablop> rww will it work by using  uids and gids?
[23:46] <escott> cablop, yeah that would be the concern... but rww knows the correct incantation above
[23:46] <en1gma> can ubuntu/linux make regular phone calls like google chrome can when google video and voice and google talk are installed? if you dont know what i mean just let me know and i can explain better
[23:46] <cablop> escott: hehe, incantation is the right word
[23:46] <escott> cablop, there is a -uid option, and probably a -gid option see man find
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: you can voice chat with gtalk as far as I am aware
[23:47] <GrouchySmurf> en1gma: I hate google chrome
[23:47] <duncan-nz> en1gma, that would be VOIP you're talking about. Yes, ekiga can do that with a voip account. ymmv
[23:47] <en1gma> hmmm i must be missing how to do it
[23:47] <magellan> hi I just wondering if someone in the linux specifically ubuntu community accomplish on locking the mouse pad built in in the laptop just like in the windows where you can Fn+lock if im not using it and using a usb mouse instead. mine is an asus lapto
[23:47] <GrouchySmurf> en1gma: google chrome is so gay for me
[23:47] <cablop> lol, what a m,acho
[23:47]  * ActionParsnip uses Chromium daily build. Its sweeeet
[23:47] <en1gma> i think google account sip or voip info is hard to get i think
[23:47] <duncan-nz> GrouchySmurf, watch your language
[23:47] <en1gma> i mean it dont work unless your in chrome i think
[23:47] <escott> magellan, you can disable stuff with xinput
[23:47] <GrouchySmurf> en1gma: Firefox roolz
[23:48] <duncan-nz> en1gma, enigma with an account from diamondcard works fine.
[23:48] <cablop> en1gma: afaik you can by using Empathy
[23:48] <en1gma> firefox dont work with google talk free voip i think
[23:48] <magellan> escott, can explain further the xinput..no idea about it..thanks for the response
[23:48] <en1gma> cablop i read something about that a min ago....think i gonna reboot into 11.04 and try it
[23:49] <en1gma> never tried empathy b4
[23:49] <cablop> by the way i hate Empathy... to nazi for my taste
[23:49] <cablop> *too
[23:49] <en1gma> rebooting brb
[23:49] <cablop> like nowadays gnome|ubuntu policies :P
[23:49] <escott> magellan, so xinput list will show all your devices
[23:49] <angheloko> here we go - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law lol
[23:50] <escott> magellan, and then supposedly you can set the "Device Enabled" property to 0 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967120
[23:52] <new2net> I have ubuntu 8.3 32bit on a CD... how long ago did that come out?
[23:52] <escott> new2net, march of 2008
[23:53] <new2net> thanks
[23:53] <cablop> 8.3?
[23:53] <magellan> escott, thanks. may i ask what the mouse is in the /dev/ sample /dev/cdrom is there /dev/mouse.. i try to look at it in the /dev/but no luck
[23:53] <cablop> there's no such distro
[23:53] <new2net> it was 8 something heh
[23:53] <escott> magellan, you don't want to mess with the /dev device, just remove it from the list of devices Xorg uses
[23:54] <cablop> 8.04 or 8.10
[23:54] <rww> new2net: 8.3 doesn't exist. Ubuntu version numbers are year.month.
[23:54] <jerg4> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS maybe
[23:54] <tophu> I tried installing slim login screen and then natty wouldn't boot! halp me please :-(
[23:54] <new2net> 8.04
[23:54] <cablop> new2net: simple, ubuntu numbers are Y.MM year month
[23:54] <szal> new2net: the name says it all
[23:54] <szal> the version number, that is
[23:54] <angheloko> tophu, are you getting a blinking cursor? try hitting alt-f1 to get into a terminal
[23:55] <magellan> escott, here are my xinput command output can you try to distinguesh the mouse  Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[23:55] <magellan> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[23:55] <magellan> ⎜   ↳ USB Optical Mouse                       	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[23:55] <magellan> ⎜   ↳ ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse             	id=13	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[23:55] <magellan> ⎜   ↳ Macintosh mouse button emulation        	id=14	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[23:55] <FloodBot1> magellan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <magellan> ⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
[23:55] <cablop> ctrl+alt+f1 i guess
[23:56] <escott> magellan, figure out which one is the one you want to disable, then xinput list-props # where # is the number listed as id=# for the device you want to disable
[23:56] <zacharyalexstern> magellan, pastebin.com
[23:57] <magellan> escott, here are my xinput command output can you try to distinguesh the mouse..is the id you mean change to 0
[23:57] <tophu> yea I used alt+f1 and did sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm to get back in
[23:57] <tophu> but that doesn't solve the "I want to customize my login screen" delima lol
[23:57] <duncan-nz> can I use SSH to see a remote x-session?
[23:58] <angheloko> tophu, lol yeah.. gdm isn't like the old gdm anymore... so yeah, we get some, we loose some
[23:58] <escott> magellan, just pastebin your xinput list
[23:58] <tophu> be back in 5 need to move a bed
[23:59] <magellan> escott, here are the result of my xinput http://pastebin.com/SyGByvkb
[23:59] <escott> duncan-nz, ssh -X
[23:59] <magellan> can you try to distinguesh my mouse