[00:01] <skx> Hey, I have xubuntu 10.10 and a problem with locale, it's by default set to "en", whatever that is, and so messes up a lot of apps
[00:01] <skx> I would prefer some sort of utf
[00:01] <skx> maybe en_US
[00:01] <skx> how do I globally set that?
[00:01] <skx> the language support doesn't let me choose any flavour of English
[00:01] <skx> there's just English
[00:01] <skx> which, I assume, is this "en"
[00:02] <skx> "English" is in black and flavours like "English (United States)" are in light grey and not clickable
[05:04] <skumara> Iḿ installing something in ubuntu software centre. How do I know what is going on in background?
[05:05] <KM0201> skumara: i think there's a "see details" thing you can click iirc
[05:06] <skumara> if install something from software centre there is no see detail thing.
[08:22] <uofm49426> any one mess around with frets on fire
[08:24] <uofm49426> is it a limux thing that wont let me hold more then 2 frets or program problem
[10:23] <exs> hi, i have a problem. if i open mousepad and close it after it takes more time to close a program then normal. what could be the solution for it?
[13:39] <arguan> Hi
[13:40] <arguan> In the indicator applet is a mail symbol, how can I get rid of that? Thank you for your help
[13:40] <Sysi> remove indicator messages, log out and back in
[13:41] <arguan> Thank you!
[13:44] <arguan> Sysi, thank you, it worked like a charm!
[15:00] <debd> I just downloaded some docs/packages from the "documentation" catagory in synaptic..now where should I find them?
[15:15] <TheSheep> debd: /usr/share/docs usually
[17:51] <Viper550> does xubuntu's boot menu seriously still use the old logo?
[17:55] <knome> that's possible
[19:18] <memee> hello all
[19:20] <memee> i have a computer cpu 1,4GB with 256 Mb ram, ubuntu is extremely slow, xubuntu should be easy on it ?
[19:21] <Sysi> memee: 256 isn too much, xubuntu will run better but i'd maybe recommend lubuntu
[19:21] <Sysi> you can try installing both, xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop
[19:27] <memee> Sysi thank for the advise , i plan tomorrow to buy 256M used ram to add on it, it should help i guess
[19:28] <memee> used markets here are really Ali baba caverns for pc parts
[20:09] <mint> Hi...I am looking for an OS without plymouth
[20:09] <Guest83181> Does Xubuntu have a splash screen?
[20:10] <Guest83181> hi?
[20:11] <Guest83181> is anyone here?
[20:17] <Josesordo> hello all.. yes have a splash screen that I dont know how to customize it yet =(
[20:23] <Guest83181> Is it plymouth or something else?
[20:24] <Guest83181> I need to find a OS that can use ATI
[20:32] <Guest83181> What's disappointing about Zorin, people say it's easy to use
[20:32] <Soupermanito> Guest83181, it is plymouth
[20:32] <Guest83181> Crap
[20:32] <Guest83181> What about dream linux?
[20:32] <Guest83181> Also plymouth?
[20:32] <Soupermanito> what is dream linux?
[20:33] <Guest83181> It's based on Debian lenny
[20:33] <Guest83181> It has a mac look
[20:33] <Soupermanito> no idea
[20:33] <Guest83181> uses 256 megabytes of ram
[20:33] <Guest83181> can be run from usb
[20:33] <Guest83181> Development on it is slow though
[20:33] <Soupermanito> i dont know
[20:34] <Guest83181> Nimble X?
[20:34] <Soupermanito> if you want a small linux lubuntu is an option
[20:34] <Guest83181> Actually I want a OS I can install on hard disk
[20:34] <Guest83181> That doesn't use Plymouth
[20:34] <Soupermanito> XD
[20:34] <Soupermanito> why?
[20:35] <Guest83181> Because I am using Linux Mint 8 from live cd
[20:35] <Guest83181> right now because Linux Mint 10 uses plymouth
[20:35] <Guest83181> That's why I can't boot anymore
[20:35] <Soupermanito> thats weird
[20:35] <Guest83181> I had to manually shut down too many times because of boot problems
[20:35] <Soupermanito> why wont it boot?
[20:35] <Guest83181> And caused some sort of corruption in Grub
[20:36] <Guest83181> All from trying to get my ATI to boot
[20:36] <Guest83181> Yet here I am using my ATI in Mint Helena which ironically is considered obsolete
[20:36] <Soupermanito> lol ati
[20:36] <Soupermanito> but really it should boot anyway
[20:37] <Soupermanito> cant you run into safe mode?
[20:37] <Soupermanito> init 2?
[20:37] <Guest83181> No it goes into grey screen
[20:37] <Guest83181> Especially if I push f2 to go into the bios and switch back to agp
[20:38] <Guest83181> It will ignore my commands and start loading mint 10 and freeze in what can only be the coolest black and white matrix graphic
[20:38] <Soupermanito> but that sounds like a grub problem, not a plymouth
[20:38] <Guest83181> I said that I corrupted grub from pushing the off button too many times
[20:39] <Guest83181> So I have to reinstall
[20:39] <Guest83181> But it wouldn't have happened if plymouth wasn't installed
[20:39] <Guest83181> Does Xubuntu have Plymouth?
[20:40] <Soupermanito> yes, at least on 10.04
[20:40] <Soupermanito> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451592
[20:40] <Soupermanito> read this
[20:40] <Sysi> every modern ditro has it
[20:41] <Sysi> exept arch maybe
[20:41] <Guest83181> Ahhh! It's a Monopoly!
[20:41] <Soupermanito> oligopoly at least
[20:41] <Guest83181> Why? I think that Linux mint 8 has a better splash screen then 10
[20:41] <Sysi> i wouldn't base my OS choise on bootscreen i have to watch for seconds
[20:41] <Soupermanito> he says it wont boot if it uses plymouth
[20:41] <Guest83181> Well...I might get something that isn't as modern then
[20:42] <Guest83181> Well...for the most part grub is corrupted right now
[20:42] <Soupermanito> there, see, thats what i was saying to you
[20:42] <Guest83181> Installing a new os might help
[20:42] <Soupermanito> it sounded like a grub problem more than a plymouth
[20:42] <Soupermanito> install xubuntu!
[20:42] <Guest83181> But ATI wouldn't boot before I had the grub problem
[20:42] <Soupermanito> :D
[20:43] <Soupermanito> yeah, but ati sucks
[20:43] <Guest83181> That's why I kept holding the blue button
[20:43] <Guest83181> which corrupted the grub
[20:43] <Guest83181> I might go with Dream linux, it's out of date but it sounds awesome
[20:43] <drc> Guest83181: Have you tried LMDE?
[20:43] <Sysi> i use what ever works and customise it to be nice
[20:44] <Guest83181> You mean Mint Debian?
[20:44] <drc> Yes
[20:44] <Guest83181> I am not advanced enough to use it
[20:44] <Sysi> i still don't have much respect for mint
[20:44] <Guest83181> Though I did manage to set up my own Openbox desktop before I corrupted grub
[20:44] <Guest83181> Shame really
[20:45] <Sysi> boot from livecd on copy your settings
[20:45] <Guest83181> ???
[20:45] <Guest83181> What's that mean?
[20:46] <Sysi> you can boot to linux from livecd, then just copy config files somewhere
[20:46] <Guest83181> I'm using Mint 8
[20:46] <Guest83181> No other mint will work since I'm stuck using PCI
[20:46] <Sysi> pci what?
[20:46] <Guest83181> PCI as default
[20:47] <Soupermanito> \o/ yay! new doctor who torrent!
[20:47] <Sysi> Soupermanito: keep it legal please, CoC
[20:47] <Sysi> Guest83181: i still don't get that
[20:47] <Guest83181> My BIOS is set to PCI and I can't change it
[20:48] <Sysi> ..okay
[20:48] <Guest83181> Which means I'm using my ATI
[20:48] <Soupermanito> oh, sorry
[20:48] <Guest83181> Which causes black screens in mint 9 and 10
[20:48] <Sysi> Guest83181: that just means it needs some configuring :)
[20:48] <Guest83181> And even if I go into the BIOS right now, Instead of switching to AGP, it'll cause a grey screen
[20:49] <Sysi> mint people should help, i'd think xforcevesa or something as boot option should work
[20:49] <Guest83181> You mean from the live cd?
[20:50] <Sysi> get xubuntu and then i can even try to help if google doesn't know
[20:50] <Guest83181> Anyway, I was going to download an ISO to this junk MP3 drive and try and use unetbootin to create a live USB
[20:50] <Guest83181> Since I don't have anymore cds
[20:51] <Guest83181> However downloading will be a problem since I'm in a live cd
[20:51] <Soupermanito> why?
[20:51] <Guest83181> I want to get Dream Linux because it's a modern OS that hasn't been updated since -09
[20:51] <Soupermanito> mount a hard drive
[20:52] <Soupermanito> get xubuntu 10.04
[20:52] <Soupermanito> :/
[20:52] <Guest83181> I want to try to get one that doesn't have a splash screen.
[20:52] <Guest83181> I'd use Puppy Linux but you can't install it
[20:53] <Soupermanito> ... yes, yes you can
[20:53] <Guest83181> Not without partitioning first and I don't know how to edit grub2
[20:53] <Soupermanito> all my library terminals use puppy
[20:53] <Guest83181> What's CrunchBang?
[20:53] <Guest83181> Your a librarian?
[20:54] <Soupermanito> indeed :D
[20:54] <Soupermanito> well a student of library science that happens to work on a library
[20:55] <Guest83181> Linux Library! Awesome
[20:55] <Guest83181> Anyway I'm looking at distro lists
[20:55] <Guest83181> I came across Crunchbang linux
[20:56] <Soupermanito> :D its easier to leave unatended because people cant get them flooded whit viruses or install stuff on them
[20:56] <Guest83181> True!
[20:57] <Soupermanito> crunchbag i see, its interesting, well if i need a small linux i use slitaz or puppy
[20:57] <Guest83181> I always got angry that computers at the library would be broken the next time I came in
[20:57] <Soupermanito> that happens
[20:57] <Guest83181> On the list of distros Nimble X and Crunchbang are rated higher then Puppy :(
[20:58] <drc> Guest83181: Who's list?
[20:58] <Guest83181> Linux.com
[20:59] <drc> AS long as it's not Distrowatch's :)
[20:59] <Guest83181> Can I install Unetbootin from the live cd? Or does it come preinstalled?
[21:00] <Soupermanito> try it
[21:00] <Soupermanito> if its not installed apt-get it
[21:00] <Guest83181> How?
[21:01] <Guest83181> It can't find Unetbootin
[21:01] <pwrusr> Is there something I need to do to get rythmbox gmusicplaer to remember the settings i give it??
[21:01] <Soupermanito> i dont know if you need sudo from the livecd but if no then just apt-get install unetbootin
[21:02] <Guest83181> I tried
[21:03] <Guest83181> I It says that  install is an invalid operation
[21:05] <Guest83181> It installed
[21:05] <Guest83181> Now I need an OS
[21:05] <Guest83181> Pclinux Os has a KDE Minime
[21:05] <Guest83181> Or is that bad?
[21:07] <pwrusr> why does no one answer me when i post a question here ??
[21:07] <Guest83181> I know, I've been frustrated before
[21:07] <Guest83181> patience is a virtue
[21:08] <pwrusr> if patience is a vitue i should have angel status by  now
[21:08] <pwrusr> virtue
[21:08] <Guest83181> Hah!
[21:08] <Guest83181> We all should
[21:09] <drc> pwrusr: Maybe because you claim to be a Power User and we think that we'd embarass ourselves in front of  you?
[21:09] <Guest83181> Can someone name a good OS Distro?
[21:09] <pwrusr> oh lol sry i will change that
[21:09] <pwrusr> have been using that tag 4 years never thought of it like that
[21:10] <drc> pwrusr: That <was> a joke ;)
[21:10] <ludite> hows this lol
[21:10] <Soupermanito> pwrusr, whats your problem?
[21:10] <ludite> sry souper just having a little fun
[21:10] <drc> ludite: Didn't know you were <that> old....
[21:11] <Guest83181> Would anyone recommend Arch Linux?
[21:11] <ludite> im haveing trouble getting rhythmbox and gmusicplayer to remember the settings i give them
[21:11] <Guest83181> Does it use Plymouth?
[21:11] <ludite> whem i close and restart them the music libraries are empty
[21:13] <drc> Guest83181: Arch?  Not for you...it requires a great deal of linux knowledge to install and configure it.
[21:13] <Guest83181> Oh
[21:13] <Guest83181> I'm trying to download Dream Linux
[21:14] <Soupermanito> can you run rhythmbox from a console and see some errors while adding settings to it?
[21:14] <Soupermanito> thats usually the fastest way to determinate why some things happen
[21:15] <Sysi> ludite: killall gcofd-2
[21:15] <Sysi> with those apps closed
[21:15] <Guest83181> I need an OS that has long term support and has good hardware compatibility without all the glitz and glam
[21:15] <Sysi> try debian
[21:15] <Guest83181> Wait, I remember that Debian doesn't have Plymouth and Plymouth can be uninstalled
[21:16] <Sysi> ludite: sorry typo, gconfd-2
[21:16] <drc> ludite: I know rhythmbox stores it data in ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml.  Delete that file, open rhythmbox, add a coupple of files, close rhythmbox, and open that file in an editor...see what it says.
[21:16] <Guest83181> Dream Linux is a fork of Debian though
[21:16] <Guest83181> Hmmm
[21:17] <Sysi> drc: i've had that problem couple of times, and killing gconfd-2 always helped, not sure about gmusicbrowser though
[21:18] <drc> Sysi: I'm thinking that you may be right...especially if <both> apps do it
[21:20] <Sysi> so.. would i like to try kde-netbook or gnome3 on that netbook
[21:21]  * drc looks for his garlic at the mention of KDE...he <knows> its well done, but doesn't like it anyway :)
[21:21]  * Soupermanito seconds drc statement
[21:22] <Sysi> i have regular plasma on this desktop, i tried netbook but it failed with dualscreen
[21:51] <TheSheep> so, since I updated to Natty the 'Create Document' menu seems to take forever to display, using up lots of cpu in the process, is that a known bug?
[23:31] <Roasted> how can I enable dual-touch-tap to right click? My trackpad has no buttons on it so I have to tap with 2 fingers to initiate the right click.
[23:32] <TheSheep> !info gsynaptics | Roasted
[23:32] <TheSheep> Roasted: use that
[23:36] <Roasted> TheSheep, wheres it install to?
[23:38] <TheSheep> Roasted: it will appear in the settings menu
[23:39] <TheSheep> roasted_: if it doesn't, you can run it from terminal
[23:39] <roasted_> just gsynaptics?
[23:39] <TheSheep> yes
[23:40] <roasted_> command not found...
[23:40] <TheSheep> did you install it?
[23:40] <roasted_> already newest version
[23:40] <roasted_> yes
[23:40] <roasted_> I installed it in software ctr
[23:40] <TheSheep> gpointing-device-settings
[23:40] <TheSheep> sorry
[23:40] <roasted_> in terminal, or install?
[23:41] <TheSheep> in terminal
[23:41] <roasted_> I see
[23:41] <roasted_> got it
[23:41] <roasted_> not sure what setting I need tho
[23:41] <TheSheep> the tapping tab
[23:42] <roasted_> yeah
[23:42] <roasted_> but
[23:42] <roasted_> I don't see anything here that pertains to what I want
[23:42] <roasted_> unless I'm just being absent minded
[23:42] <TheSheep> btw, double- and triple- finger tap should be enabled by default
[23:43] <roasted_> well, if it makes a difference I installed ubuntu then xfce
[23:43] <roasted_> not xubuntu
[23:43] <roasted_> but it works on ubuntu
[23:43] <TheSheep> it shouldn't make a difference
[23:43] <roasted_> I have double tap scrolling
[23:43] <roasted_> but I dnt have double tap right click
[23:43] <TheSheep> I think double defaults to middle click
[23:44] <TheSheep> triple is right
[23:45] <roasted_> I'm still not sure I'm following
[23:45] <roasted_> I see nothing here that is what I;m looking for
[23:45] <TheSheep> tap with 3 fingers
[23:45] <roasted_> ahh
[23:45] <roasted_> yeah
[23:46] <roasted_> 3 right clicks
[23:46] <roasted_> can I change it
[23:46] <roasted_> ?
[23:46] <TheSheep> I changed it somewhere
[23:46] <TheSheep> but it might have been specific to mac
[23:46] <TheSheep> can't remember where :(
[23:46] <roasted_> you're on a mac?
[23:47] <EgotisticalElf> should i have to do anything special to get Xubuntu 11.04 to install on a P3-650 w/ a TNT2 and 512mb of memory?
[23:49] <TheSheep> roasted_: not at the moment, it was the other computer
[23:49] <roasted_> I see
[23:49] <roasted_> I'm on a CR48 at the moment.
[23:50] <roasted_> xfce runs pretty snazzy on here
[23:51] <TheSheep> roasted_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Frequently_used_options
[23:51] <TheSheep> roasted_: but that requires you to create a xorg.conf file
[23:51] <CPrompt^> greetings.  Just installed Xubuntu 11.04 and it doesn't seem to have apache2 or PHP in the default repos
[23:51] <CPrompt^> looking through the internet doesn't really turn up much
[23:51] <CPrompt^> any ideas?
[23:51] <roasted_> TheSheep, triple select is fine. I was just curious if it was easily possible :P
[23:51] <roasted_> thanks for your help bro
[23:52] <TheSheep> !info apache2
[23:52] <TheSheep> CPrompt^: make sure you have the repositories enabled
[23:52] <CPrompt^> hmmm...let me look.  I thought I had them all enabled
[23:54] <CPrompt^> well, the only ones that were not enabled were "Source Code"
[23:54] <CPrompt^> and "Canonical Partners"
[23:54] <CPrompt^> TheSheep: do you happen to know which repos I need?
[23:57] <TheSheep> CPrompt^: it says it right there, 'main'
[23:57] <CPrompt^> got it
[23:57] <TheSheep> what was it?
[23:58] <CPrompt^> it was the "Source
[23:58] <TheSheep> impossible
[23:58] <TheSheep> maybe it just didn't have the lists of packages updated
[23:58] <CPrompt^> that is possible
[23:58] <CPrompt^> i just installed Xubuntu about 10 minutes ago