[00:00] Upgrading from 9.10 Karmic to 10.04 Lucid right now XD [00:00] sithlord48: Last time I tried, the RootActions Service Menu from GHNS was broken with Kubuntu 10.10+ [00:00] ronnoc: not all of them work this is true [00:00] What's the worst that can happen? [00:00] Well not sure how to get accsess to cups. even using sudo its not letting me in [00:00] worst is you get nothing [00:00] hmmm...don't see get new...*sigh*. [00:00] sithlord48: it installs but nothing happens. He can just install Sam Rog's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa and get it [00:01] sithlord48: why it's not installed by defualt I will never ever know >.> [00:01] lol [00:01] you think if disabled hplic first it would let Me into cups? [00:02] EldonG: Settings > Configure > Services > Download New Services [00:02] sorry on phone and like 10 other chats atm [00:04] but use this instead: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa and install "kde-service-menu-rootactions" [00:04] or just download the individual package [00:04] not seeing download new services, either. Hmmm. [00:05] EldonG: It's next to a yellow star lol [00:05] but I would install the PPA I linked above myself instead [00:05] some really good stuff in there [00:06] er...no yellow stars. I'm just now upgrading to Lucid...maybe? [00:06] yea rog's ppa is awsome.. [00:06] EldonG: what version do u have now , this migh thave been added in lucid [00:06] EldonG: That would explain it :p [00:06] Cool. [00:06] Too many versions. :p [00:07] EldonG: Can I ask why you started from so far back? Why not just do a fresh 10.10 install? [00:08] EldonG: KDE is a very stable at 10.10 and later [00:08] I had Linux burned previously...wanted to do a dual, when this computer was new (2 years ago)...but Vista doesn't play fair. [00:09] ...when my drive died, I kicked Vista to the curb, and did my install. [00:09] (on a new drive) [00:09] glad you chose kde [00:09] ahhhh. smart person. but yea you have a LOT of updates ahead of you lol [00:10] I am, too. Frustrating trying o learn it all, but hey. ;) [00:10] er...to learn...duh. [00:10] i finally found the right channel. On startup KDE crashes... says "failed to mount device". Then I get a stacktrace. How can I even begin to fix this? [00:10] kde_init or something crashes. heh [00:10] Kubuntu is finally getting to the point where it "just works", but of course tinker and learn all you want! =) [00:11] i have a usb to sata, i just recover my files and reinstall [00:11] <-- used to be a tech...a hobbyist programmer...and an old VoodooDos guy. ;) [00:11] i think it happened because I mounted a truecrypt partition then restarted without unmounting it properly. Any ideas? [00:12] EldonG: As in Voodoo graphics stuff? Legendary! :) [00:12] claydoh: Hello there [00:13] * new2net sighs [00:13] ronnoc: hi [00:13] ronnoc...nah, just using batch files to make Dos sit up and beg...though I do play with Blender and whatnot. :) [00:13] no love for a novice *nix user [00:14] i'm old enough to remember DOS...pretty sure that made me confident I could dothis 'nix stuff OK :) [00:14] new2net: what issue are you having? [00:14] lol...I played my first computer games on a TI 960. ;) [00:14] ronnoc can I show you the stack trace? [00:15] new2net: nah I'm not a programmer, sorry I wouldn't be much help at all [00:15] new2net: how did you mount the partition? [00:15] undo that perhaps [00:16] EldonG: TRS-80 here :) [00:16] claydoh: hmm... but I did undo that I thought... Let me pastebin the stacktrace and maybe someone knows [00:17] http://pastebin.com/kCkqEmVn [00:18] stacktrace may not help the issue is the mounting i think [00:18] nope, stacktrace is unhelpful :( [00:18] I've fiddled with the TRS-80s...the Commodores (pets, vic-20s, and 64s) Apples, from the first and up, TIs 99/4a...etc, etc...the 960 was a mini in the Richardson complex. :) [00:18] oh. well I mounted them using the truecrypt gui, so I can't really be more specific [00:18] !on-topic [00:19] other than I am using kde 3.5.10 [00:20] yea claydoh how it going, also do u know anything about setting up blink in natty ? [00:21] sithlord48: wats blink? that probably answers that question :) [00:21] claydoh: its a voip client, GG was just telling me about it , were gonna test it if i can get it workin in natty . [00:22] new2net: can you go into trucrypt and undo the mount action from there? Else use "kdesudo kate" to edit your /etc/fstab file and put a "#" in front of the line containing the partition [00:23] do I need special drivers to run .mkv video? [00:23] because it looks bad on my pc [00:24] claydoh: that is what I'll try [00:24] hey guys i found what My pdf printing problem is. But Not sure how to fix it. the problem is in the Okular pdf reader. i installed Adobe pdf reader and i dont have the issue. but if i try to print from Okular strange things happen [00:25] MrGizmo757: Sounds like an Okular bug then. I'd see if any similar issues have been reported w/ KDE [00:26] sithlord48: http://lists.ag-projects.com/pipermail/blink/2011-May/001347.html [00:26] yeah i am serching the forums now to see if i can find somthing about it. [00:27] Hello [00:27] sithlord48: probably natty uses newer python stuff from maverick [00:28] MrGizmo757: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196590 [00:28] claydoh: yea it seams so mainly in the python-sipsimple package being updated to python-sip (and w/ changes ?) [00:28] KDE bug 196590 in PDF backend "[PDF 4 3beta2 regression] bad margins, printing cuts off parts of the document" [Normal,New] [00:28] Thank you. :-) [00:28] anybody knows if [00:28] is it possible to open only one instance of dolphin? and if another folder is opened it opens a new tab (just like a browser)? [00:29] claydoh: fstab correctly reflects what hardware I have. Konqueror is not showing 1 of my drives. [00:30] /dev/sda5 is missing [00:30] new2net: so disable the trucrypt one and see if that fixes it maybe? I assume the missing drive is the trucrypt one? [00:30] pastepin the fstab [00:31] shad...yup. I regularly have more than one open. [00:32] http://pastebin.com/3Y5nNnTe [00:32] yes but if a program is opening a folder with dolphin, and dolphin is already open, it opens another window...what i want is to force dolphin to have only one instance [00:33] duh...misread ya. my bad. [00:33] i don't know if i'm clear... [00:33] rekonq is a pos [00:34] ive used konqueror forever and never seen too many crashes [00:36] shad_: I can't find any dolphin setting for that, maybe konqueror has something like that though === flavio is now known as Guest99338 [00:36] ronnoc: this bug apparently is in QT. its causing the default paper size settings in Okular to change to a diffrent value then what is configured in cups. this is making the printer queue crash. you can set Okular back to Normal but the value wont stay. you have to change it every time. [00:37] A4 paper size? [00:37] thank you anyway, i'll look for other solutions ;) [00:37] so problem figured out but not solved. Oh Well! atleast i can Make it print now [00:38] MrGizmo757: Too bad you had to use the proprietart software to do it, but yea. working right is always the important thing! [00:38] *y [00:39] yeah, We dont Like to say the P word around here. LOL! [00:41] So...anybody know where a good guide to Kubuntu might be located? In .pdf, maybe? [00:44] Good question, wondering where a good "cheat card" for Kubuntu could be found... [00:46] Exactly what I need. A cheat card... :) [00:46] Welcome to the club. ;-) [00:46] lol [00:47] gotta be one somewhere... [00:49] mrcogeo: EldonG: kubuntu is far to complex for any cheatcard :) [00:50] ^^ if there is a spicific area you want to know more about there might be somehting ^^ [00:51] Ok, how about a noob crowbar for migrating from GNU/Linux Ubuntu(tm)? :shrug: [00:52] for KDE there's userbase and KDE Forums, for Ubuntu there's tons of stuff out there :p [00:53] and for a cheat card there's...Google lol [00:53] True, my GoogleFu needs a good work out. [00:53] how can i check if i have acceleration hardware on [00:53] ? [00:54] http://www.kubuntuguide.info/index.php/Kubuntuguide:Books/Kubuntuguide_Lucid_3-29-2011 looks good [00:54] Does indeed...we shall see... [00:54] Ty [00:55] m477: System Settings > Desktop Effects. If they're on, the checkbox is checked [00:55] Ya betcha. [00:56] ronnoc: i dont have KDE also i have got older version, can i check it in other way? [00:57] but i run compiz [00:57] m477: sorry I don't run Compiz since KDE has it's own desktop efects [00:58] oh [00:58] m477: glxinfo | grep rendering will tell you if direct rendering is enabled === mren is now known as mren|off [00:59] James147: thanks :) [00:59] Hola === mrcogeo is now known as mrcogeo_afk [01:02] 7 min to fully downloaded Lucid...yay. [01:02] EldonG: heh [01:02] EldonG: lupu? [01:02] i run .mkv p1080 and it lags very much, i have newest graphic drivers and gf 8600, why is it caused? [01:04] what player? try another one if you can .. [01:04] Lupu...hmmm? Lucid Lynx... [01:04] m477: are you using vdpau? [01:04] vlc is decent but i've found out you might have to fiddle w/ teh overlay settings [01:04] shad_: what is it? [01:05] vlc / mplayer [01:05] try with smplayer [01:06] vdpau is a library that allows you to use gpu acceleration in video decoding, but it works with proprietary nvidia drivers [01:09] smplayer? [01:09] smplayer is a mplayer frontend [01:10] shad_: i have installed NVIDIA binary xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library [01:10] what is frontend? [01:14] m477: mplayer is a terminal application - smplayer gives you a window with buttons to control mplayer [01:14] so i use GNOME mplayer [01:15] in kde? [01:15] no i have gnome [01:15] k [01:15] mkv 720p works good [01:15] 1080p does mega lags [01:15] cpu 100% usage [01:15] OK, this is the weirdest problem that I've run into... My computer's screen randomly flashes and distorts the Kubuntu screen, then suddenly asks me to provide login info. [01:19] The entire screen becomes a command-line interface, and despite the fact that I provide the correct login info, it tells me the information is incorrect. I'm running 10.04 LTS on an old Compaq, and so far my only fix is to power off and reboot. [01:23] woohoo...TONS of upgrades... [01:27] Gah! I keep getting disconnected. [01:27] Hey guys, could somebody please help me before I get disconnected again? [01:28] What you need? [01:28] Well, there he goes. [01:33] heh... joking maybe? [01:37] This is gettin ridiculous.... Freaking disconnect. [01:38] LINKSWORD2: What's the issue? [01:39] OK, this is the weirdest problem that I've run into... My computer's screen randomly flashes and distorts the Kubuntu screen, then suddenly asks me to provide login info. [01:39] The entire screen becomes a command-line interface, and despite the fact that I provide the correct login info, it tells me the information is incorrect. I'm running 10.04 LTS on an old Compaq, and so far my only fix is to power off and reboot. [01:40] You running desktop effects? [01:40] LINKSWORD2: ^^ [01:40] No, I'm only running basic Kubuntu. [01:41] No, I'm only running basic Kubuntum DarkwingDuck [01:41] *kubuntu [01:44] LINKSWORD2: When it happens again... go to terminal and type dmesg > dmesg.txt then copy the output of that into a pastebin (paste.kde.org) and paste that in the channel with the question. [01:44] LINKSWORD2: that will give us a better understanding of what is going on. [01:45] Hold up... [01:45] LINKSWORD2: until I see that I really don't know what is going on issues wise. [01:46] LINKSWORD2: It sounds like either X is ending session for some reason [01:46] Or you are having hdw failure [01:46] Will it log the problem if the whole thing has crashed and only brings up a command line interface? [01:46] Yes, dmesg logs from poweron [01:46] *power on [01:47] OK. [01:47] So it's dmesg > dmesg.txt ? [01:47] LINKSWORD2: Sorry I can't do more right now [01:47] Yes, [01:47] That will output dmesg into dmesg.txt [01:47] Then you can copy that to a pastebin [01:48] and share that link so we can see. [01:48] :) [01:48] Does it happen often? [01:48] I feel inferior. I'm a KDE n00b [01:48] Yeah, it does. [01:48] LINKSWORD2: We were all there at one point. :) [01:49] Everyone starts at a n00b level then, learns. [01:49] I could say that Linus Torvald probably was not a n00b. [01:49] He had to learn unix at one point so, yeah he was. :) [01:49] ... Ouch. lol [01:50] :D It's a matter of perspective that's all. [01:50] At least we're not having to learn the old Unix architecture. [01:50] I did. :/ [01:50] :o [01:50] That's where I started. That and DOS 2 [01:51] ... I want a Mac. lol [01:51] I'm a long-time Windows user, but I got hooked on Macs in college. [01:51] Yeah, i did the mac thing a while. [01:51] But, I've settled with Linux [01:51] Best of all worlds [01:52] I had used a little Linux before, but not enough. === salahgo is now known as SalahGo [01:52] * DarkwingDuck nods === SalahGo is now known as SalahGo[at]Konv [01:52] It's funny that Macs use a basically proprietary version of Linux. [01:53] xD [01:53] macs.. lol [01:53] ~.? [01:53] its like linux for stupid people [01:53] Macs make really great hdw [01:53] ubuntu: be nice. [01:53] hdw? [01:53] hardware? [01:53] Hardware [01:54] not really [01:54] its worse and more expensive [01:54] at my work, the majority of people use macs [01:54] Macs? [01:54] How many macs have you owned? [01:54] and in the past couple months, 4 macs have dropped dead [01:54] 0 pcs [01:54] At least my IRC interface isn't randomly disconnecting now... [01:54] LINKSWORD2: that's good. [01:54] Thanks [01:54] #kubuntu-offtopic is pretty quiet right now :-\ [01:54] the macs just drop dead and require mac store help [01:55] * LINKSWORD2 starts up the Compaq and loads Kubuntu. [01:55] I'll stick to my thinkpads though. [01:55] so basically.. more expensive, locked into a system, fail alot [01:55] #kubuntu-offtopic is pretty quiet right now :-\ [01:55] IBM/Lenovo makes some solid systems [01:55] but hey, u get that "Mac" vibe [01:55] and can go to starbucks [01:55] and pretend ur awesome [01:55] #kubuntu-offtopic is pretty quiet right now :-\ [01:56] Thinkerer68: WTF? [01:56] Thinkerer68: is there a reason you are repeating yourself? [01:56] !ot [01:56] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [01:56] ^^ hes hinting at that :) [01:56] i didnt join this channel on purpose, it auto joined as i loaded up the kubuntu cd to install... hehe [01:56] yeah, but I was trying to be more subtle :P [01:56] i just found myself in here [01:57] and chimed in on macs [01:58] Have any of you guys had problems with Kubuntu regarding web browsers? [01:58] it is good idea to instal drivers form nvidia.com? if i have in repo juz 185 ver? [01:58] LINKSWORD2: Meaning? [01:58] problems such as? [01:58] Rekonq is a little funny at times. I use Google Chrome [01:58] id stick with firefox [01:59] When I got Kubuntu running and connected to the internet, I installed Firefox and Google Chrome. [01:59] firefix chews more RAM [01:59] i always go back to ff after trying different [01:59] true DarkwingDuck [01:59] I wonder if I should kill off Firefox, in that case. [01:59] especially doing facebook webdevelopment.. its insane, like 1gb used up with 4 tabs open [01:59] firebug open [02:00] but no browser can beat its webdev tools [02:00] And with my kubuntu devel work online I normally have around 15 tabs open [02:00] so the ram leak is worth it [02:00] Meh... [02:00] Considering that my machine barely has 1GB of RAM, I don't have too much room to talk. [02:00] i have 8gb of ram on both computers [02:00] so i guess i should mention that [02:00] lol [02:00] its not a big deal [02:00] LINKSWORD2: Yeah, I dont' have to worry, I have enough to go around too [02:00] It's a POS old Compaq. [02:01] I've been there. [02:01] It was a miricle I got this one. [02:01] Whatchya got? [02:01] i dont think its the browsers leaking memory tbh [02:01] i think its teh webpages [02:01] lol [02:01] doing crazy ajax requests and stuff [02:01] looping out of control [02:01] facebook especially [02:01] ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:02] Haha! [02:02] LINKSWORD2: ThinkPad W700 [02:02] It's abeast but, awesome for a dev laptop [02:02] *a beast [02:03] If I were to choose, I think I would use ASUS for their laptops. [02:03] I'll never leave ThinkPad [02:04] As a system hardware tech, I've worked on nearly everything from the ground up. [02:04] * DarkwingDuck nods [02:04] I've actually told a guy to put a shotgun to an HP because it was so badly messed up. [02:04] xD [02:05] lol [02:05] Any aspiring how to writers in here? [02:05] For Kubuntu? === sony is now known as Guest96247 [02:06] And unfortunately, HP owns a dozen of the smaller companies now, like Compaq, Gateway, E-Machine and although I'm not sure, I'm thinking they also own Toshiba. [02:07] guys how can i control my screen brightness i'm on a sony-vaio vpc [02:07] Guest96247: Does the function on screen buttons work? [02:08] s/screen/keyboard [02:08] nope :( [02:09] Guest96247: Gimme a sec [02:09] sure :) [02:12] Guest96247: I've worked on a couple of Vaio's before. They've got an odd way of going about things sometimes. I assume that you're using the Fn key and F5/F6, correct? [02:12] .... Disconnected again. Blast this! [02:12] Guest96247: The battery applet in teh sys trey. Right Click > Power Save Settings > Power Profiles to set manually. [02:12] ok [02:12] lemme try [02:13] .... Duh. I forgot about that. [02:13] LINKSWORD yes thats right [02:13] Ok [02:13] Guest96247: It's an "F" series with propriatary drivers? [02:14] Well, give DarkwingDuck's suggestion a try. [02:15] If it does use proprietary drivers, it'll be a royal pain to deal with. Contact Sony. (And be prepared for a long wait on the phone.) [02:15] Nope. [02:15] If he does then here is the work around. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Laptop/Sony/Vaio/FSeries/Natty#LCD [02:16] ... Oh. lol [02:18] sony_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Laptop/Sony/Vaio/FSeries/Natty#LCD <-- If the Vaio is an "F" series this should work. [02:19] nope it doesn't work just tried it and it's not an f series it's a vpc-cw15 fn [02:19] !alis [02:19] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* [02:20] Ok...now I have MountISO...but how do I use it? :p [02:24] hello? [02:24] brb [02:25] EldonG: You are trying to figure out how to use MountISO? [02:25] EldonG: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso [02:25] hey, whats the best way to get a "quick launch" [02:25] yes [02:26] Thanks! :0 [02:26] :) [02:26] I hate getting disconnected like this.... [02:31] does 11.04 automatically install my nvidia driver? [02:32] WTF?!? I have a file on my hard disk with a modification date of 2037-12-31 O_o [02:33] are u also looking for john connor? [02:33] haha rofl [02:36] multipass: No, you need to use the additional drivers from KMenu > Applications > System > Additional Drivers [02:37] this driver is activated but not currently in use... wait what? [02:38] it has the green light [02:42] Gah...I have an ISO mounted...how can I now see it? Sorry...3 days into Linux. :p [02:42] hey guys and girls. i'm hitting the bug documented at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/681535. the report says the bug is fixed but there are a number of people, including myself, who don't see any difference and still can't install grub [02:42] Ubuntu bug 681535 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed." [High,Fix released] [02:45] w0lfie: Comment on the bug stating that it didn't fix. [02:46] w0lfie: the bug squad will catch it. [02:47] nvm...found it... [02:52] has anyone ever made a kde icon theme? or know any resources to point me in a direction to learn how? [02:54] DarkwingDuck: cool, will do [03:13] I finally got that sound issue fixed up [03:18] when i use apt-get install , how do I uninstall now? [03:32] hi [03:33] how I can disable fullscreen? all apps running in fullscreen [03:35] I'm a bit burnt. I added several lcd weather station plasma widgets to my panel and I can't remove them... I think I added 4 or 5 of them and they're cascaded in the corner... how in the world do I remove them? [03:36] unlock widgets [03:36] do this, and remove [03:37] sorry. yeah, I unlocked them but I can neither grab them to move them or right click for a menu to remove them.... they're like a bad case of the herpes right now [03:37] vbgunz: right-click on desktop, unlock widgets [03:48] fml. I can't believe this. I think I have 5 lcd weather station widgets and I can't do a damn thing about them short of just restarting my panel from scratch. [03:57] found and destroyed the offending widget through ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc here. had to stop plasma but it worked. [04:03] vbgunz: right click on desktop and click "Unlock Widgets" [04:03] NM [04:03] Sorry, Forgot to hit enter before [04:16] How do i get CDs to mount to /mnt/cdrom as well as /mnt/? i.e. some daemon type thing seems to do this these days, but i don't know where the config file might be [04:17] /mnt/ is a bit tedious for wine :P [04:18] ups /media/ not /mnt/ === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [04:55] hey, how come kde can alt tab out of fullscreen opengl apps, and gnome cant? === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [05:15] Guys, I can't change the brightness...I have 10.10 [05:15] not with the power management thing, and I also tried /proc/acpi/video/GFX0 and the brightness files all say [05:15] help? :D [05:17] and my computer is one of these http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668585.php [05:20] mine has screen brightness keys up on the f row [05:20] you might check there [05:20] f7 and f8 here [05:21] valorie: for mine, it's fn + uparrow, downarrow and they don't work [05:22] hmm, i cant get my keyboard special buttons to work for music players, play, pause, etc [05:23] it works fine in gnome [05:23] do i need to do anything special here? [05:29] well, brightness problem temporarily fixed by using a monitor... [05:29] thanks for your help guys [05:30] multipass: I've not done anything special in kubuntu [05:30] and they all Just Work [05:31] fn + up and down don't work here [05:31] although the KDE shortcuts can probably be set [05:32] btw, I'm a woman, not a guy [05:33] *g* [05:33] we have all kinds here on the Internet [05:33] :-) [05:42] Valorie: was it you that was having sync problems with yer android? === dan__ is now known as Dan_L [05:43] I didn't try to sync [05:43] I was trying to transfer some songs to it from Amarok [05:43] and you couldn't get it to find the drive? [05:44] I should try again -- new Kubuntu, new KDE, and new Amarok versions [05:44] I had weird amarok/android problems today [05:44] no, it started, but never finished [05:44] stopped for no reason I could see [05:44] so I'll start somewhere else -- could be a song title the 'droid doesn't like, or something [05:45] ut oh. [05:45] Anybody else getting an error message when they try to check for updates from kpackageit? [05:45] that's a good idea -- thanks for reminding me [05:45] E: Error http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main amd64 Packages [05:45] 404 Not Found [05:45] that sounds like a 'server down' kinda problem [05:45] launchpad is just timing out [05:45] off for lunch, perhaps [05:46]