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Ahmuck-Jrclear00:29
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dream1bonsoir unn francais !02:04
LAcansalut #ubuntu-fr02:15
LAcanerr oops02:15
LAcanwrong channel02:15
LAcanmauvaise chaine ?02:15
sagaciany plans to make the grub boot menu have a bluey background02:45
KM0201sagaci: you should be able to do that on your own02:48
KM0201if you really want to.02:48
sagaciok I'll see how this gors03:03
sagacigoes*03:03
mikedep333hey, is there a summary of the lxde.org domain name / website status?03:21
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Ahmuck-Jrthere is a delay in application launch.  is there a way to speed application launches up?04:09
SemitonesHey could we change the installer next year so it tells you you can keep your old /home if you choose manual install, and set your old partition as root without clicking format?04:12
Ahmuck-Jrif your doing manual installation, this is something you'd know anyway?04:26
Ahmuck-Jrdid you loose /home?04:26
Semitonesno I just foolishly made another partition and installed to there04:27
Semitonesbecause I didn't know what I wanted to do was possible04:27
Ahmuck-Jrah04:27
Ahmuck-Jrmanual install, carve out 1024mb for swap, at end, 10240 for / partion at beggining and then select remaining in the middle as /home (ext3)04:28
Ahmuck-Jrer, manual partitioning04:29
SemitonesAhmuck-Jr, apparently you don't need a home partition05:04
Semitonesif you tell the installer to install over your old / partition, but without format, then it deletes everything that's not /home or /usr/local05:04
Semitonesor so i was told in #ubuntu05:04
Ahmuck-Jrthat is correct05:14
Ahmuck-Jryou need to set up a seperate primary partition05:14
Ahmuck-Jrif you have everything in / then you'd need to do a backup first05:14
Ahmuck-Jrso, three primary partitions, / /home /swap05:15
Ahmuck-Jrext305:15
KM0201Semitones: hmm, i didn't know that (that if you don't format, it doesn't format /home)05:16
KM0201i never keep /home on a separate partition anyway05:16
SemitonesKM0201, I used to, and I had a separate /boot as well, but with grub2 that wasn't necessary anymore05:17
KM0201ya05:17
mr-richOk ... minimal install is done ... /proc/meminfo looks good & df shows 20% if disk space is used ...05:20
mr-richHowever ...05:20
mr-richupon reboot, I have what looks like X starting ... It's just a screen with a blinking cursor on it ...05:21
mr-richI used CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to a terminal ... as far as I can tell, X doesn't appear to be running ...05:22
mr-richI assume I continue the lubuntu install from CLI?05:23
mr-richor should I take care of the X thing first?05:26
tdnI use lxdm in lubuntu. How do I change the lxdm theme/background image?07:28
bioterrortdn, titia@konna:~$ cat /etc/lxdm/default.conf07:49
bioterrortdn, bg=/usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png07:49
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tdnbioterror, ok Thanks08:03
tdnbioterror, bg in which section? There is no bg variable in my config.08:04
bioterrorhmmm what08:05
bioterrorhas they changed things in 11.0408:05
tdnProbably.08:07
tdnBut I can add the bg var. But in which section?08:07
tdnhttp://paste.adora.dk/P2056.txt08:08
tdnThis is my config08:08
bioterrorshould I install 11.04 to my laptop?08:09
bioterrorthen again, I could move to ocelot08:09
bioterrorhmmm08:10
* bioterror rubs his head08:10
bioterrortakes a while to compile unetbootin08:10
tdn11.04 is nice, I think.08:13
tdnbioterror, do you know how I can change theme/background in lxdm in my config?08:13
bioterrortakes a while and I know08:14
bioterrorabout 30mins08:14
bioterroras they have changed settings in lxdm config08:14
tdnOk08:28
bioterrordoing some backups ;)08:31
MrChrisDruifGood going bioterror08:32
bioterrortakes a while to move chromium folder08:32
MichealHlol, it reminds me of a geeky joke xD08:33
bioterroryeah08:33
bioterror.config moved08:33
bioterrorreboot to install08:33
bioterrorif unetbootin works :D08:33
MichealHIt said "To compress backups really well do [REALLY BAD COMMAND]" ;)08:34
bioterrorhahaha08:38
bioterrorI had to copy paste / mark from terminal to installer that I can manually make partitions08:38
bioterrorand this did not want to make me a jfs partitions08:39
bioterrorw t f08:39
bioterrorno xfs neither08:41
MrChrisDruif??08:42
bioterrorits not enough that plymouth sucks, but ubiquity sucks even more08:43
MrChrisDruifxD08:44
MrChrisDruifA bit offtopic, isn't it? O:-)08:44
bioterrorseems like youre doomed to use ext408:45
bioterroras your /08:45
bioterrorno its not08:45
bioterrorubiquity is lubuntus installer08:45
MrChrisDruifYes, but me thinks this is a support channel. Discussing things like ubiquity and it's "flaws" isn't really suited here :)08:47
bioterrorgive me support for my problems08:49
bioterrorI want to use jfs as my fs for the -08:49
bioterror/08:49
bioterrorhow can I do that?08:49
bioterrorif I want to use only one filesytem for my installation, I would use Windows and NTFS08:52
bioterrorMrChrisDruif, Y U NO SPEAK?!08:59
MrChrisDruifWhat?08:59
MrChrisDruifWith no mentions I respond not all the time :)09:00
MrChrisDruifchrome.angrybirds.com ;)09:00
bioterroris that your host.domain?09:00
MrChrisDruifhost.domain? Of my website?09:01
MrChrisDruifBut I thought you could install *buntu on any FS like JFS09:17
bioterrornot in year 201109:18
bioterrortdn, now I'm on lubuntu 11.04 and having my terminal fixed09:18
bioterror/usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/openbox-3/themerc09:20
bioterrorthat doesnt have wallpaper09:21
bioterrortdn, 260K/usr/share/lxdm/themes/Lubuntu/wall.png09:22
bioterrortdn, you can create easily own themes ;)09:23
bioterrorcryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda509:27
bioterrorcryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab09:27
bioterror:---)09:27
bioterrorplymouth not working properly after first update09:34
* bioterror shows his suprised face09:34
MrChrisDruifO_O <= this one?09:35
bioterrorMrChrisDruif, http://memegenerator.net/instance/780435909:39
* MrChrisDruif goes offline TTYL09:41
buff27how does ubuntu compare to xubuntu? does it use less ram/cpu ?10:05
buff27* I mean lubuntu compare to xubuntu10:11
EagleScreenhello10:14
EagleScreenwhat bluetooth packages shoild I install to transfer files from cell phone to laptop?10:14
EagleScreenmmm I see that gnomebluetooth is already installed10:20
bioterrorEagleScreen, bluez? or something10:30
bioterrorI use memorycard reader10:31
bioterrorit's easier and faster10:31
EagleScreengnome-bluetooth is working well10:31
head_victimphillw: ping11:13
head_victimI would like to suggest for that wiki we use lists instead of headings for each11:13
head_victimMaybe a heading for each release and then a list for each download as a compromise11:13
head_victim(To keep it all in the correct style ;) )11:14
esmirlinhey people! just a question, is it possible to install dropbox on lubuntu? i'm just trying CrunchBang Linux cause ubuntu is too big and heavy for my netbook but i'm so used to ubuntu i wanna try lubuntu but i'm afraid of not being able to do the same work as in the Ubuntu one11:19
head_victimesmirlin: I'm sure I heard someone saying they use it with pcmanfm in here (pcmanfm is the default file manager in Lubuntu)11:20
head_victimesmirlin: http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=2703511:22
esmirlinthanks!11:23
esmirlinand what about crunchbang? is it lighter than lubuntu?11:24
head_victimI have not ever used crunchbang sorry so I don't really know. What are the specs of the hardware you are using?11:24
esmirlinhead_victim, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=543711:27
head_victimAh it runs fine on my wife's really old 600mhz celeron with 512 ram ;)11:27
esmirlinooki i'll try thanks!11:28
head_victimGlad to help :)11:28
esmirlin^^11:29
stlsaintIM BACK11:33
head_victimQUICK HIDE11:35
tdnbioterror, but how do I select another wallpaper or theme?11:35
stlsaintoh no you dont11:35
tdnHuh?11:45
esmirlinhey folk! i burnt the iso into a usb using unetbootin and usb-creator but it didn't boot into lubuntu installation :S12:01
stlsaintesmirlin: well what did it do?12:04
esmirlinit splash a the comand console12:04
esmirlin*sorry for my english :S12:05
esmirlinit splashes the command line12:05
stlsaintesmirlin: what type of computer are you using?12:09
esmirlinstlsaint, a netbook12:10
MichealHhead_victim, phillw has been real quiet today12:11
stlsaintcare to elaborate12:12
head_victimMichealH: it would appear so, maybe he has some real life stuff to take care off, hmmmph real life getting in the way of the online world.12:12
head_victimstlsaint: asus eee 1005pe12:12
MichealHhead_victim, :P12:13
stlsainthead_victim: how dare that real life....smh12:13
head_victimesmirlin: so doesn't work at all, only shows the splash and sits on that, or goes toa  terminal after the splash?12:14
stlsainthead_victim: huh?12:14
victor__stlsaint, it sais there's no init found12:15
victor__i've tried it like 4 times using differents pc's and different software and no chance :(12:15
stlsainthow is everyone able to post what the issue is cept the on needing support :P12:16
victor__:(12:17
stlsaintvictor__: did you verify the iso prior to burning it? md5 and all that jazz12:20
victor__yes12:21
victor__all is ok12:21
victor__i've tried another "buntu" distro like kubuntu and ubuntu and it just worked12:21
victor__stlsaint,12:24
stlsaintvictor__: what iso did you download?12:25
victor__http://www.linoob.com/2011/04/lubuntu-11-04-final-released/12:25
victor__stlsaint,12:26
stlsaintvictor__: it is possible that site has a corrupt iso, it is highly unlikely that you are able to use ubuntu but not lubuntu12:30
head_victimstlsaint: it links direct to the correct places12:31
stlsaintvictor__: well that sucks12:31
head_victimIt's a little perplexing.12:31
stlsaintvictor__: i assume it would be hardware related in that case12:31
head_victimvictor__: so does it hang at the splash, before the splash or give you a terminal after the splash?12:31
stlsainthead_victim: i did have the same issue with the alpha iso but i just assumed that was cause it was alpha12:33
stlsainton another netbook from a guy who wanted linux12:33
head_victimstlsaint: ah fair call but it seems like direct, correct links at the bottom of the page12:34
victor__i just see the terminal without anything else, initrads:12:34
victor__i don't know what to doo12:38
victor__o12:38
victor__*do12:38
victor__should i use unetbootin with sudo?12:38
stlsainthead_victim: that also sounds like a fail on unetbootin12:39
stlsaintnot packing initrd correctly12:39
head_victimI always use startup disk creator from within another Ubuntu installation12:39
victor__stlsaint, did you try?12:39
stlsaintvictor__: yes12:40
stlsainthead_victim: when i tried with final releaes and unetbootin it just hands at splash screen for me12:40
head_victimstlsaint: sounds exactly like what that person was experiencing12:40
stlsaintcept im not on a netbook12:41
stlsainthead_victim: maybe this is something to look into?12:41
head_victimstlsaint: sure, we need to find someone with a netbook :)12:42
stlsainti have one i can try right quick12:42
stlsaintone sec12:42
stlsainthead_victim: seems to be same with me12:44
head_victimHmm bug report time?12:44
stlsaintlooks like it12:44
head_victimDouble check with an actual cd copy as well?12:44
stlsainthead_victim: wont be able to on netbook12:45
head_victimAh good point12:45
head_victimI'm a bit tired apparently ;)12:45
stlsainthehe12:45
head_victimgilir: what information would oyu like in a bug report that seems to render unetbootin USB drives unbootable on netbooks for 11.04?12:46
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stlsainthead_victim: if i choose to install ubuntu i make it to splash screen but then it loops on goign thru the dots12:47
head_victimstlsaint: ahh press a key, it might be looking to find the drive for installation12:47
head_victimI recall having that exact issue in a previous release12:47
stlsainthit enter then space bar with nothing12:48
head_victimJust trying to remember the error it was cycling to find what bug it was12:49
stlsaintyep im looping12:49
stlsaintWHOA12:50
stlsaintone sec12:50
stlsaintcrap i missed it12:50
gilirhead_victim, the steps to reproduces, and if it's tested on standard Ubuntu12:50
head_victimgilir: no worries, it's looking like a previous error I once had trying to find it12:51
stlsaintman i gotta record what just happened on system12:52
head_victimJust give me an error line to google :)12:52
stlsaintlol i think i can do ya one better12:52
stlsainthead_victim: whats your email12:53
head_victimjarednorris at ubuntu dot com :)12:53
stlsainthead_victim: sent12:54
stlsaintima try and get some video of the massive errors it just went thru12:55
stlsaintwent streaming all over the screen :D12:55
head_victimAh that's different to what I was thinking of but still an error none the less12:56
stlsaintyep12:57
stlsaintthough i cant tell what it really means12:58
head_victimLets hope they return so we can ask more questions13:00
stlsainthead_victim: well i couldnt send the video of the streaming stuff but another part of the errror popped before ending with (initramfs)13:03
stlsainthead_victim: emailed ya ;)13:03
head_victimstlsaint: got the screenshot13:03
stlsainthead_victim: the one i just sent?13:04
stlsaintinitramfs one13:04
head_victimYep13:05
stlsaintaye that seems to be the last of it13:05
stlsaintbug time?13:07
head_victimCan you install normal Ubuntu without the errors?13:08
stlsainthead_victim: wish i could test but i dont have a ubuntu iso, only other variants :D13:11
head_victimTry any of them then13:12
stlsainthead_victim: i did13:13
stlsainthead_victim: the others work13:13
head_victimBug time13:13
stlsaintdebian, back-track, crunchbang13:13
head_victimAs per our great leader, we need the steps to reproduce and report it against the lubuntu-meta package :)13:18
stlsaint1. Download lubuntu 11.04 :D13:19
stlsaint2. Use unetbootin to create bootable usb13:19
stlsainthehe13:20
stlsaint3. Boot into the usb on a netbook13:20
stlsaint4. BUG!!13:20
stlsainthead_victim: you filing bug or should i?13:22
head_victimI'll let you do it as you have the ability to reproduce and answer questions if that's ok13:23
stlsaintroger that13:23
stlsainthead_victim: you say lubuntu-meta as in this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta13:25
head_victimThat's the one according to the Lubuntu wiki13:26
stlsaintalright ill report it there13:27
stlsaintwoot bug filed13:38
FernandoBassoThe new version of Lubuntu is awesome!13:42
stlsaintFernandoBasso: glad to hear it13:45
head_victimstlsaint: nice bug report, just got it in the inbo13:46
head_victiminbox13:46
head_victimbug 78299713:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 782997 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu fails to install using USB on netbooks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78299713:46
FernandoBassoI am really serious. Fast as arch linux, but 'beatiful BY DEFAULT'. :)13:46
stlsainthead_victim: thankx13:47
head_victimFernandoBasso: that's the goals of the system :) So glad you found it and like it13:47
FernandoBassoI don't know why hasn't Canonical adopted Lubuntu officially yet.13:47
stlsainthead_victim: sshhhhhhhhh ;D13:48
head_victimFernandoBasso: it's just waiting a hardware upgrade from Canonical to move it to offical13:48
stlsaintlol13:48
stlsaintfail13:48
stlsaintwas hoping julien would chime on that bit :D13:49
FernandoBassoThat unity is a not easy to used. Not practical. And niether gnome3. It seems unity and gnome3 philosophy is "the app you need is just 15 clicks away".13:49
stlsaintlol interesting analogy13:50
FernandoBassoI used to use openbox and lxde. But I sincerely hopped that either gnome3 or unity would bring something 'useful'. At least for me, they are no easy to use. Neither are they intuitive, and almost zero-configurable.13:51
FernandoBassoAnd since I already am a fan of openbox and lxde in general, I can't help feeling that you guys have just made openbox and lxde even more great than they already are.13:52
head_victimI have yet to try unity I must admin13:53
head_victimadmit*13:53
stlsaintsame here13:53
FernandoBassoI have an opinion, for example, that a house is a house. The way we know 'houses' up to the present time seems to actually be the best way. What other ways could be build a house and make it still be 'practical'? I think the same holds true to desktops. nothingspecial like being able to have virtual vorkspaces and still be able to 'minimize' windows', have a toolbar with the most important icons there. Gnome3 doesn'13:57
FernandoBassoPerhaps in with the time some things will be improved and usability may get better.13:58
head_victimI'm thinking 12.04 will be when unity shines or rusts14:02
KM0201head_victim: i agree (but unity really isn't that bad in 11.04, but it does need some work, and like you, I think it will be a gradual process)14:09
head_victimKM0201: yep, can only get better really.14:12
FernandoBassoMy doubt is whether the paradigm of 'desktop' can be changed so much.14:15
FernandoBassoI am not saying that it is not possible, though.14:15
FernandoBassoSpecially, the way we 'manage' the desktop in general.14:16
kalithlevif i create some custom .desktop files, how do i get them to show up in lxpanel?14:24
mr-richok ... rebooted after installing mini.iso & apt-get'ing lubuntu ... I have no X ... blank screen ...14:25
bioterrorkalithlev, by defining proper Category=14:27
bioterrorhttp://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/14:28
mr-richscreen on F7 sez "*Starting NTP server" & "*Starting bluetooth" ... blinking cursor ...14:28
mr-richI can get to a console (CTRL-ALT-F1/F6) ...14:29
bioterrorsay "startx"14:29
kalithlevi don't really want to put them in /usr/share/applications bioterror14:29
bioterrorthat's what the specification says14:30
FernandoBasso(09:49) < head_vict> FernandoBasso: it's just waiting a hardware upgrade from Canonical to move it to offical. <--- What?14:31
Ahmuck-Jrunity is ok, and works for tablets, not for desktops14:33
mr-richbioterror: not at a console ...blank screen with just those words ... I'll try it at a console screen ...14:33
Ahmuck-Jrfor example, the hiding part, doesn't work for some of us on desktops, but on table would make sense14:33
FernandoBassoI guess you are right.14:34
Ahmuck-Jrsingle clicks are fine, but on a desktop configuraiton options via right mouse click are still important14:34
Ahmuck-Jrunity bar needs soem configuration options, for tablet or desktop setup14:35
Ahmuck-Jri liked it but it limited my abilty to work from my desktop14:36
FernandoBassoI think anyone who knows how to configure openbox would probably be much more satisfied with it than kde/gnome/unity. And I myself know the very basics.14:38
FernandoBassoFor example, gnome2.x never had an option to change desktops with the mouse wheel.14:40
cjohnstonI'm trying to run 64bit as a live cd from a usb stick and im getting a stdin: error 017:20
cjohnstonany ideas?17:20
RelevantI cant seem to fine a lubuntu live disc ISO17:35
LAcanRelevant, it exists17:40
LAcanRelevant, http://lubuntu.net/17:41
Ahmuck-Jris there a leak in flash in lubuntu?17:47
fredarkoi am the latest user but i have not yet been registered.18:02
KM0201Ahmuck-Jr: i think so.. honestly,l i installed the flasth 10.3 beta, it fixed a lot of problems for me18:13
* Ahmuck-Jr is finding a lot of bugs ...18:24
KM0201Ahmuck-Jr: and windows is bug free?18:25
KM0201Ahmuck-Jr: what "bugs" are you finding (i think to often newbs say something is a bug, and in reality, they just don't now what they're talking about)18:26
Ahmuck-Jrhonestly?  well, panel bar, Panel Settings --> Panel Preferences --> Application Launch Bar --> Edit --> Window opens behind the existing one18:31
KM0201lol, you're really that geeked up about a window placement issue?18:32
KM0201move the freaking window on top of it, and set it up18:32
Ahmuck-Jrfocus is wrong18:32
* KM0201 laughs 18:32
KM0201you should stick w/ bug free windows.18:32
Ahmuck-JrPanel Settings on left click, but title says Panel Preferences18:33
* Ahmuck-Jr kicks KM0201 int he shins18:33
KM0201Ahmuck-Jr: you're really griping about stupid stuff, are they  minor things? of course, but I can't believe someone would even be upset about a menu saying "panel settings" and then going to a "panel preferences" window.18:33
Ahmuck-Jrit's inconsistant18:34
KM0201well, win 7 is super consistant, that should work well for you.18:34
* KM0201 shakes his head18:34
KM0201i'm just curious if either of those "bugs" effect functionality at all?18:34
Ahmuck-Jrthe title, no, the focus, yes18:35
KM0201you see those two things and you say "there's a lot of bugs"... im not sure whether to laugh or cry18:35
KM0201how does the focus cause a problem?18:35
Ahmuck-Jrit's an extra mouse click18:35
KM0201move the over window, and adjust the "unfocused" window as you see fit18:35
Ahmuck-Jrmove and click18:35
KM0201oh geez.18:35
Ahmuck-Jri suppose i could move back to ubuntu18:38
Ahmuck-Jr>-)18:38
Ahmuck-Jrsudo aptitude install lynx18:43
Ahmuck-Jrer18:43
Ahmuck-JrKM0201: i understand good gui design18:44
KM0201it's not perfect by any stretch, but you're making out a couple minor GUI bugsto be serious issues.18:45
Ahmuck-JrKM0201: why did you assume I was upset rather than merely reporting the issues19:07
KM0201Ahmuck-Jr: cuz this isn't where you report issues?19:08
KM0201and comments like "I understand good GUI design"...19:08
Ahmuck-Jrsorry.  i'll take it to #lubuntu-offtopic in the future19:08
KM0201not really for off topic either.. if you think something is a bug, then just file a bug report19:09
Ahmuck-Jri'll pass.  i'm not to fond of bug reporting in launchpad.  in the past i've reported bugs there as well, navigating, and nothing get's done there.19:10
Ahmuck-Jri've found it best to not report them at all19:10
KM0201Ahmuck-Jr: lol, well if nothng is getting done, then likely what you're reporting is either 1. not a bug, or 2. a low priority that will be fixed later19:11
KM0201there's been lots of bugs fixed as a result of launchpad reports19:11
Ahmuck-Jrconversation finished19:12
KM0201if thats how you feel.. but i've reported bugs plenty of times to launchpad (or signed on to ones already reported) and quite a few of them have been fixed in the past.  right now the only one I'm on, is the vlc bug..19:13
bioterroreipä tolla kanavalla 223 tee kyllä vittujakaa19:17
bioterrorohop19:17
bioterrorwrong window :D19:17
FernandoBassoJanela errada!19:20
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esmirlinhey guys, what about changing the login screen background?20:09
jmarsdenesmirlin: man lxdm     will show you what config file to edit for that.20:16
MrChrisDruifjmarsden; Natty uses lightdm right? ;)20:16
bioterrorwhy would it use20:16
jmarsdenI've never heard of lightdm... will check... my lubuntu1104 VM uses lxdm as far as I can see :)20:17
jmarsdenMrChrisDruif: There is no lightdm in my Lubuntu 1104 setup, so I think you are mistaken ?20:17
MrChrisDruifjmarsden; Might be so...I'll check what the release notes say20:18
bioterrorMrChrisDruif, something to read for you: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html20:19
esmirlinstill not sure of where is the pic located :S20:19
bioterrorit's in the theme folder20:20
bioterrorwall.png20:20
jmarsden/usr/share/lxdm/themes/Lubuntu/wall.png  # but dont edit it, create a new theme and set lxdm to use your new custom theme.20:21
esmirlinwhy?20:22
bioterrorcp -r Lubuntu newtheme20:22
bioterrorand edit /etc/lxdm/default.conf to use another theme20:23
jmarsdenesmirlin: Because that is how the whole system is designed, to be themable... :)20:23
bioterroresmirlin, when you mess your system, you have something to rollback to20:23
esmirlin:P20:23
esmirlinthanks guys!20:23
jmarsdenesmirlin: You're welcome.20:24
iphaRahello guys, how can I change the screen resolution to 1024x600? there is no such resolution in Start>Preferences>Monitor Settings20:32
samuel_does anyone know when PCManFM 0.9.9 starts supporting UTF-8?20:33
jmarsdensamuel_: In filenames?  Or it its localized user interface translation files??20:34
samuel_in filenames, i can't copy filenames when it contains non ascii chars20:35
samuel_jmarsden,  in filenames, i can't copy filenames when it contains non ascii chars20:35
jmarsdenHmmm.  It should, I think... I'll test it here...20:36
samuel_PCManFM shows ? instead of the special char20:36
samuel_ë, é and such show as a questionmark, I use the Dutch localised version of Lubuntu, 11.04 i think this is20:38
jmarsdensamuel_: For me it works fine... in Lubuntu 11.04.  I have files named ıntəˈnæʃənəl and ∀x∈ℝ  (just to use some really weird characters!) and they show up fine.20:41
samuel_jmarsden, any idea what could be the cause?20:42
jmarsdenSounds like something somewhere told pcmanfm to use USASCII, or to use a font that does not have the characters you need in it?20:42
jmarsdenIs "the Ducth localized version of 11.04" the official ISO, but installed for the Dutch language?  Or some unofficial version someone made in the Netherlands??20:43
samuel_jmarsden, i can create a empty textfile with nonascii chars20:44
samuel_its the official version20:44
jmarsdenOK.  I did    echo "∀x∈ℝ" >∀x∈ℝ20:44
jmarsdento create one of my test files... worked fine, then I fired up pcmanfm and looked at that folder, and it displays correctly.20:45
samuel_after installation i get the option to upgrade some software to my local though but that is not the cause20:45
samuel_mmm, i use sabnzb to download stuff20:45
samuel_those file are unzipped by sabnab to20:46
jmarsdenWhat is sabnzb??  And where did you get it from?20:46
samuel_jmarsden, SABnzbd is an Open Source Binary Newsreader written in Python20:46
jmarsdenOh, some sort of file downloader tool... OK.20:46
jmarsdenIf you do    echo "∀x∈ℝ" >∀x∈ℝ    in LXterminal, and then ls, do you see the filename displayed correctly in the terminal?20:47
samuel_works fine perhaps the unzip/unrar thingy is the cause20:47
jmarsdenOK, so yes... sounds like pcmanfm is not the problem :)20:48
samuel_jmarsden, yeah the echo works fine20:48
samuel_so we can rule out Lubuntu to?20:48
jmarsdenOK, and now in pcmanfm does that file look good?20:48
samuel_jmarsden, it does show up correct yes20:49
samuel_seems sabnzb related then20:49
jmarsdenOK.  So pcmanfm is fne.  If you installed sabnzbdplus from the Ubuntu repositories, and it has an internationalization issue, you could file a bug against that package.20:49
samuel_jmarsden, i just did sudo apt-get install sabnzb20:50
samuel_and it installed fine20:50
samuel_its not a big problem, i guess it will be fixed at some point20:51
jmarsdenOK... except that there is no package named sabnzb in the official Ubuntu repos that I can find... did you get it from an unofficial repository?20:51
samuel_how come it installed fine using the command request?20:53
lightaprobably not same repo20:53
jmarsdenI don't know, sudo apt-get install sabnzb does not find such a package for me here.  sudo apt-get install sabnzbdplus does.20:53
jmarsdensamuel_: Did you add any non-standard repositories to your machine?20:54
samuel_yes, my mistake its fullname is indeed sabnzbdplus20:54
samuel_jmarsden, firefox and opera20:54
samuel_i guess those are not supported20:55
jmarsdenOK.  I sugges you file a bug in Launchpad against that package and provide details on how to duplicate the issue, and hopefully someone will fix it.20:55
samuel_i20:55
samuel_i'll try to duplicate it first20:56
jmarsdenSure.20:56
samuel_i did have happen something strange just 2 days ago20:57
samuel_when turning on my notebook with Lubuntu 11.04 installed it would give me a login screen instead20:58
samuel_have not seen that before20:58
samuel_even more strange, i could not login in with my username/password20:58
samuel_had to reinstall everything20:59
KM0201where is the 64bit download22:17
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Morganvdevening23:39
Morganvdanyone know how i can remove xchat without removing lubuntu-desktop23:39
MrChrisDruifMorganvd; I've read something about "removing lubuntu-desktop" and when it's okay...23:49
MrChrisDruifLooking for it now23:51
MrChrisDruifMorganvd; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/RemoveLubuntuDesktop23:53
Ahmuck-Jrbug #h2a4462b - ctl-alt-Fx, screen is white with garbage letters.  on tty working.23:54
cjohnstonAhmuck-Jr: im getting the same thing23:56
cjohnstonthis time it ended saying connecting to plymouth: connection refused23:56

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