[00:29] clear === wiZZZZZZone is now known as wizonesolutions [02:04] bonsoir unn francais ! [02:15] salut #ubuntu-fr [02:15] err oops [02:15] wrong channel [02:15] mauvaise chaine ? [02:45] any plans to make the grub boot menu have a bluey background [02:48] sagaci: you should be able to do that on your own [02:48] if you really want to. [03:03] ok I'll see how this gors [03:03] goes* [03:21] hey, is there a summary of the lxde.org domain name / website status? === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [04:09] there is a delay in application launch. is there a way to speed application launches up? [04:12] Hey could we change the installer next year so it tells you you can keep your old /home if you choose manual install, and set your old partition as root without clicking format? [04:26] if your doing manual installation, this is something you'd know anyway? [04:26] did you loose /home? [04:27] no I just foolishly made another partition and installed to there [04:27] because I didn't know what I wanted to do was possible [04:27] ah [04:28] manual install, carve out 1024mb for swap, at end, 10240 for / partion at beggining and then select remaining in the middle as /home (ext3) [04:29] er, manual partitioning [05:04] Ahmuck-Jr, apparently you don't need a home partition [05:04] if you tell the installer to install over your old / partition, but without format, then it deletes everything that's not /home or /usr/local [05:04] or so i was told in #ubuntu [05:14] that is correct [05:14] you need to set up a seperate primary partition [05:14] if you have everything in / then you'd need to do a backup first [05:15] so, three primary partitions, / /home /swap [05:15] ext3 [05:16] Semitones: hmm, i didn't know that (that if you don't format, it doesn't format /home) [05:16] i never keep /home on a separate partition anyway [05:17] KM0201, I used to, and I had a separate /boot as well, but with grub2 that wasn't necessary anymore [05:17] ya [05:20] Ok ... minimal install is done ... /proc/meminfo looks good & df shows 20% if disk space is used ... [05:20] However ... [05:21] upon reboot, I have what looks like X starting ... It's just a screen with a blinking cursor on it ... [05:22] I used CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to a terminal ... as far as I can tell, X doesn't appear to be running ... [05:23] I assume I continue the lubuntu install from CLI? [05:26] or should I take care of the X thing first? [07:28] I use lxdm in lubuntu. How do I change the lxdm theme/background image? [07:49] tdn, titia@konna:~$ cat /etc/lxdm/default.conf [07:49] tdn, bg=/usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png === semitones_tea is now known as semitones [08:03] bioterror, ok Thanks [08:04] bioterror, bg in which section? There is no bg variable in my config. [08:05] hmmm what [08:05] has they changed things in 11.04 [08:07] Probably. [08:07] But I can add the bg var. But in which section? [08:08] http://paste.adora.dk/P2056.txt [08:08] This is my config [08:09] should I install 11.04 to my laptop? [08:09] then again, I could move to ocelot [08:10] hmmm [08:10] * bioterror rubs his head [08:10] takes a while to compile unetbootin [08:13] 11.04 is nice, I think. [08:13] bioterror, do you know how I can change theme/background in lxdm in my config? [08:14] takes a while and I know [08:14] about 30mins [08:14] as they have changed settings in lxdm config [08:28] Ok [08:31] doing some backups ;) [08:32] Good going bioterror [08:32] takes a while to move chromium folder [08:33] lol, it reminds me of a geeky joke xD [08:33] yeah [08:33] .config moved [08:33] reboot to install [08:33] if unetbootin works :D [08:34] It said "To compress backups really well do [REALLY BAD COMMAND]" ;) [08:38] hahaha [08:38] I had to copy paste / mark from terminal to installer that I can manually make partitions [08:39] and this did not want to make me a jfs partitions [08:39] w t f [08:41] no xfs neither [08:42] ?? [08:43] its not enough that plymouth sucks, but ubiquity sucks even more [08:44] xD [08:44] A bit offtopic, isn't it? O:-) [08:45] seems like youre doomed to use ext4 [08:45] as your / [08:45] no its not [08:45] ubiquity is lubuntus installer [08:47] Yes, but me thinks this is a support channel. Discussing things like ubiquity and it's "flaws" isn't really suited here :) [08:49] give me support for my problems [08:49] I want to use jfs as my fs for the - [08:49] / [08:49] how can I do that? [08:52] if I want to use only one filesytem for my installation, I would use Windows and NTFS [08:59] MrChrisDruif, Y U NO SPEAK?! [08:59] What? [09:00] With no mentions I respond not all the time :) [09:00] chrome.angrybirds.com ;) [09:00] is that your host.domain? [09:01] host.domain? Of my website? [09:17] But I thought you could install *buntu on any FS like JFS [09:18] not in year 2011 [09:18] tdn, now I'm on lubuntu 11.04 and having my terminal fixed [09:20] /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/openbox-3/themerc [09:21] that doesnt have wallpaper [09:22] tdn, 260K/usr/share/lxdm/themes/Lubuntu/wall.png [09:23] tdn, you can create easily own themes ;) [09:27] cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5 [09:27] cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab [09:27] :---) [09:34] plymouth not working properly after first update [09:34] * bioterror shows his suprised face [09:35] O_O <= this one? [09:39] MrChrisDruif, http://memegenerator.net/instance/7804359 [09:41] * MrChrisDruif goes offline TTYL [10:05] how does ubuntu compare to xubuntu? does it use less ram/cpu ? [10:11] * I mean lubuntu compare to xubuntu [10:14] hello [10:14] what bluetooth packages shoild I install to transfer files from cell phone to laptop? [10:20] mmm I see that gnomebluetooth is already installed [10:30] EagleScreen, bluez? or something [10:31] I use memorycard reader [10:31] it's easier and faster [10:31] gnome-bluetooth is working well [11:13] phillw: ping [11:13] I would like to suggest for that wiki we use lists instead of headings for each [11:13] Maybe a heading for each release and then a list for each download as a compromise [11:14] (To keep it all in the correct style ;) ) [11:19] hey people! just a question, is it possible to install dropbox on lubuntu? i'm just trying CrunchBang Linux cause ubuntu is too big and heavy for my netbook but i'm so used to ubuntu i wanna try lubuntu but i'm afraid of not being able to do the same work as in the Ubuntu one [11:20] esmirlin: I'm sure I heard someone saying they use it with pcmanfm in here (pcmanfm is the default file manager in Lubuntu) [11:22] esmirlin: http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=27035 [11:23] thanks! [11:24] and what about crunchbang? is it lighter than lubuntu? [11:24] I have not ever used crunchbang sorry so I don't really know. What are the specs of the hardware you are using? [11:27] head_victim, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5437 [11:27] Ah it runs fine on my wife's really old 600mhz celeron with 512 ram ;) [11:28] ooki i'll try thanks! [11:28] Glad to help :) [11:29] ^^ [11:33] IM BACK [11:35] QUICK HIDE [11:35] bioterror, but how do I select another wallpaper or theme? [11:35] oh no you dont [11:45] Huh? [12:01] hey folk! i burnt the iso into a usb using unetbootin and usb-creator but it didn't boot into lubuntu installation :S [12:04] esmirlin: well what did it do? [12:04] it splash a the comand console [12:05] *sorry for my english :S [12:05] it splashes the command line [12:09] esmirlin: what type of computer are you using? [12:10] stlsaint, a netbook [12:11] head_victim, phillw has been real quiet today [12:12] care to elaborate [12:12] MichealH: it would appear so, maybe he has some real life stuff to take care off, hmmmph real life getting in the way of the online world. [12:12] stlsaint: asus eee 1005pe [12:13] head_victim, :P [12:13] head_victim: how dare that real life....smh [12:14] esmirlin: so doesn't work at all, only shows the splash and sits on that, or goes toa terminal after the splash? [12:14] head_victim: huh? [12:15] stlsaint, it sais there's no init found [12:15] i've tried it like 4 times using differents pc's and different software and no chance :( [12:16] how is everyone able to post what the issue is cept the on needing support :P [12:17] :( [12:20] victor__: did you verify the iso prior to burning it? md5 and all that jazz [12:21] yes [12:21] all is ok [12:21] i've tried another "buntu" distro like kubuntu and ubuntu and it just worked [12:24] stlsaint, [12:25] victor__: what iso did you download? [12:25] http://www.linoob.com/2011/04/lubuntu-11-04-final-released/ [12:26] stlsaint, [12:30] victor__: it is possible that site has a corrupt iso, it is highly unlikely that you are able to use ubuntu but not lubuntu [12:31] stlsaint: it links direct to the correct places [12:31] victor__: well that sucks [12:31] It's a little perplexing. [12:31] victor__: i assume it would be hardware related in that case [12:31] victor__: so does it hang at the splash, before the splash or give you a terminal after the splash? [12:33] head_victim: i did have the same issue with the alpha iso but i just assumed that was cause it was alpha [12:33] on another netbook from a guy who wanted linux [12:34] stlsaint: ah fair call but it seems like direct, correct links at the bottom of the page [12:34] i just see the terminal without anything else, initrads: [12:38] i don't know what to doo [12:38] o [12:38] *do [12:38] should i use unetbootin with sudo? [12:39] head_victim: that also sounds like a fail on unetbootin [12:39] not packing initrd correctly [12:39] I always use startup disk creator from within another Ubuntu installation [12:39] stlsaint, did you try? [12:40] victor__: yes [12:40] head_victim: when i tried with final releaes and unetbootin it just hands at splash screen for me [12:40] stlsaint: sounds exactly like what that person was experiencing [12:41] cept im not on a netbook [12:41] head_victim: maybe this is something to look into? [12:42] stlsaint: sure, we need to find someone with a netbook :) [12:42] i have one i can try right quick [12:42] one sec [12:44] head_victim: seems to be same with me [12:44] Hmm bug report time? [12:44] looks like it [12:44] Double check with an actual cd copy as well? [12:45] head_victim: wont be able to on netbook [12:45] Ah good point [12:45] I'm a bit tired apparently ;) [12:45] hehe [12:46] gilir: what information would oyu like in a bug report that seems to render unetbootin USB drives unbootable on netbooks for 11.04? === TimoTimo is now known as Timo_ [12:47] head_victim: if i choose to install ubuntu i make it to splash screen but then it loops on goign thru the dots [12:47] stlsaint: ahh press a key, it might be looking to find the drive for installation [12:47] I recall having that exact issue in a previous release [12:48] hit enter then space bar with nothing [12:49] Just trying to remember the error it was cycling to find what bug it was [12:49] yep im looping [12:50] WHOA [12:50] one sec [12:50] crap i missed it [12:50] head_victim, the steps to reproduces, and if it's tested on standard Ubuntu [12:51] gilir: no worries, it's looking like a previous error I once had trying to find it [12:52] man i gotta record what just happened on system [12:52] Just give me an error line to google :) [12:52] lol i think i can do ya one better [12:53] head_victim: whats your email [12:53] jarednorris at ubuntu dot com :) [12:54] head_victim: sent [12:55] ima try and get some video of the massive errors it just went thru [12:55] went streaming all over the screen :D [12:56] Ah that's different to what I was thinking of but still an error none the less [12:57] yep [12:58] though i cant tell what it really means [13:00] Lets hope they return so we can ask more questions [13:03] head_victim: well i couldnt send the video of the streaming stuff but another part of the errror popped before ending with (initramfs) [13:03] head_victim: emailed ya ;) [13:03] stlsaint: got the screenshot [13:04] head_victim: the one i just sent? [13:04] initramfs one [13:05] Yep [13:05] aye that seems to be the last of it [13:07] bug time? [13:08] Can you install normal Ubuntu without the errors? [13:11] head_victim: wish i could test but i dont have a ubuntu iso, only other variants :D [13:12] Try any of them then [13:13] head_victim: i did [13:13] head_victim: the others work [13:13] Bug time [13:13] debian, back-track, crunchbang [13:18] As per our great leader, we need the steps to reproduce and report it against the lubuntu-meta package :) [13:19] 1. Download lubuntu 11.04 :D [13:19] 2. Use unetbootin to create bootable usb [13:20] hehe [13:20] 3. Boot into the usb on a netbook [13:20] 4. BUG!! [13:22] head_victim: you filing bug or should i? [13:23] I'll let you do it as you have the ability to reproduce and answer questions if that's ok [13:23] roger that [13:25] head_victim: you say lubuntu-meta as in this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta [13:26] That's the one according to the Lubuntu wiki [13:27] alright ill report it there [13:38] woot bug filed [13:42] The new version of Lubuntu is awesome! [13:45] FernandoBasso: glad to hear it [13:46] stlsaint: nice bug report, just got it in the inbo [13:46] inbox [13:46] bug 782997 [13:46] Launchpad bug 782997 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu fails to install using USB on netbooks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/782997 [13:46] I am really serious. Fast as arch linux, but 'beatiful BY DEFAULT'. :) [13:47] head_victim: thankx [13:47] FernandoBasso: that's the goals of the system :) So glad you found it and like it [13:47] I don't know why hasn't Canonical adopted Lubuntu officially yet. [13:48] head_victim: sshhhhhhhhh ;D [13:48] FernandoBasso: it's just waiting a hardware upgrade from Canonical to move it to offical [13:48] lol [13:48] fail [13:49] was hoping julien would chime on that bit :D [13:49] That unity is a not easy to used. Not practical. And niether gnome3. It seems unity and gnome3 philosophy is "the app you need is just 15 clicks away". [13:50] lol interesting analogy [13:51] I used to use openbox and lxde. But I sincerely hopped that either gnome3 or unity would bring something 'useful'. At least for me, they are no easy to use. Neither are they intuitive, and almost zero-configurable. [13:52] And since I already am a fan of openbox and lxde in general, I can't help feeling that you guys have just made openbox and lxde even more great than they already are. [13:53] I have yet to try unity I must admin [13:53] admit* [13:53] same here [13:57] I have an opinion, for example, that a house is a house. The way we know 'houses' up to the present time seems to actually be the best way. What other ways could be build a house and make it still be 'practical'? I think the same holds true to desktops. nothingspecial like being able to have virtual vorkspaces and still be able to 'minimize' windows', have a toolbar with the most important icons there. Gnome3 doesn' [13:58] Perhaps in with the time some things will be improved and usability may get better. [14:02] I'm thinking 12.04 will be when unity shines or rusts [14:09] head_victim: i agree (but unity really isn't that bad in 11.04, but it does need some work, and like you, I think it will be a gradual process) [14:12] KM0201: yep, can only get better really. [14:15] My doubt is whether the paradigm of 'desktop' can be changed so much. [14:15] I am not saying that it is not possible, though. [14:16] Specially, the way we 'manage' the desktop in general. [14:24] if i create some custom .desktop files, how do i get them to show up in lxpanel? [14:25] ok ... rebooted after installing mini.iso & apt-get'ing lubuntu ... I have no X ... blank screen ... [14:27] kalithlev, by defining proper Category= [14:28] http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ [14:28] screen on F7 sez "*Starting NTP server" & "*Starting bluetooth" ... blinking cursor ... [14:29] I can get to a console (CTRL-ALT-F1/F6) ... [14:29] say "startx" [14:29] i don't really want to put them in /usr/share/applications bioterror [14:30] that's what the specification says [14:31] (09:49) < head_vict> FernandoBasso: it's just waiting a hardware upgrade from Canonical to move it to offical. <--- What? [14:33] unity is ok, and works for tablets, not for desktops [14:33] bioterror: not at a console ...blank screen with just those words ... I'll try it at a console screen ... [14:33] for example, the hiding part, doesn't work for some of us on desktops, but on table would make sense [14:34] I guess you are right. [14:34] single clicks are fine, but on a desktop configuraiton options via right mouse click are still important [14:35] unity bar needs soem configuration options, for tablet or desktop setup [14:36] i liked it but it limited my abilty to work from my desktop [14:38] I think anyone who knows how to configure openbox would probably be much more satisfied with it than kde/gnome/unity. And I myself know the very basics. [14:40] For example, gnome2.x never had an option to change desktops with the mouse wheel. [17:20] I'm trying to run 64bit as a live cd from a usb stick and im getting a stdin: error 0 [17:20] any ideas? [17:35] I cant seem to fine a lubuntu live disc ISO [17:40] Relevant, it exists [17:41] Relevant, http://lubuntu.net/ [17:47] is there a leak in flash in lubuntu? [18:02] i am the latest user but i have not yet been registered. [18:13] Ahmuck-Jr: i think so.. honestly,l i installed the flasth 10.3 beta, it fixed a lot of problems for me [18:24] * Ahmuck-Jr is finding a lot of bugs ... [18:25] Ahmuck-Jr: and windows is bug free? [18:26] Ahmuck-Jr: what "bugs" are you finding (i think to often newbs say something is a bug, and in reality, they just don't now what they're talking about) [18:31] honestly? well, panel bar, Panel Settings --> Panel Preferences --> Application Launch Bar --> Edit --> Window opens behind the existing one [18:32] lol, you're really that geeked up about a window placement issue? [18:32] move the freaking window on top of it, and set it up [18:32] focus is wrong [18:32] * KM0201 laughs [18:32] you should stick w/ bug free windows. [18:33] Panel Settings on left click, but title says Panel Preferences [18:33] * Ahmuck-Jr kicks KM0201 int he shins [18:33] Ahmuck-Jr: you're really griping about stupid stuff, are they minor things? of course, but I can't believe someone would even be upset about a menu saying "panel settings" and then going to a "panel preferences" window. [18:34] it's inconsistant [18:34] well, win 7 is super consistant, that should work well for you. [18:34] * KM0201 shakes his head [18:34] i'm just curious if either of those "bugs" effect functionality at all? [18:35] the title, no, the focus, yes [18:35] you see those two things and you say "there's a lot of bugs"... im not sure whether to laugh or cry [18:35] how does the focus cause a problem? [18:35] it's an extra mouse click [18:35] move the over window, and adjust the "unfocused" window as you see fit [18:35] move and click [18:35] oh geez. [18:38] i suppose i could move back to ubuntu [18:38] >-) [18:43] sudo aptitude install lynx [18:43] er [18:44] KM0201: i understand good gui design [18:45] it's not perfect by any stretch, but you're making out a couple minor GUI bugsto be serious issues. [19:07] KM0201: why did you assume I was upset rather than merely reporting the issues [19:08] Ahmuck-Jr: cuz this isn't where you report issues? [19:08] and comments like "I understand good GUI design"... [19:08] sorry. i'll take it to #lubuntu-offtopic in the future [19:09] not really for off topic either.. if you think something is a bug, then just file a bug report [19:10] i'll pass. i'm not to fond of bug reporting in launchpad. in the past i've reported bugs there as well, navigating, and nothing get's done there. [19:10] i've found it best to not report them at all [19:11] Ahmuck-Jr: lol, well if nothng is getting done, then likely what you're reporting is either 1. not a bug, or 2. a low priority that will be fixed later [19:11] there's been lots of bugs fixed as a result of launchpad reports [19:12] conversation finished [19:13] if thats how you feel.. but i've reported bugs plenty of times to launchpad (or signed on to ones already reported) and quite a few of them have been fixed in the past. right now the only one I'm on, is the vlc bug.. [19:17] eipä tolla kanavalla 223 tee kyllä vittujakaa [19:17] ohop [19:17] wrong window :D [19:20] Janela errada! === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [20:09] hey guys, what about changing the login screen background? [20:16] esmirlin: man lxdm will show you what config file to edit for that. [20:16] jmarsden; Natty uses lightdm right? ;) [20:16] why would it use [20:17] I've never heard of lightdm... will check... my lubuntu1104 VM uses lxdm as far as I can see :) [20:17] MrChrisDruif: There is no lightdm in my Lubuntu 1104 setup, so I think you are mistaken ? [20:18] jmarsden; Might be so...I'll check what the release notes say [20:19] MrChrisDruif, something to read for you: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html [20:19] still not sure of where is the pic located :S [20:20] it's in the theme folder [20:20] wall.png [20:21] /usr/share/lxdm/themes/Lubuntu/wall.png # but dont edit it, create a new theme and set lxdm to use your new custom theme. [20:22] why? [20:22] cp -r Lubuntu newtheme [20:23] and edit /etc/lxdm/default.conf to use another theme [20:23] esmirlin: Because that is how the whole system is designed, to be themable... :) [20:23] esmirlin, when you mess your system, you have something to rollback to [20:23] :P [20:23] thanks guys! [20:24] esmirlin: You're welcome. [20:32] hello guys, how can I change the screen resolution to 1024x600? there is no such resolution in Start>Preferences>Monitor Settings [20:33] does anyone know when PCManFM 0.9.9 starts supporting UTF-8? [20:34] samuel_: In filenames? Or it its localized user interface translation files?? [20:35] in filenames, i can't copy filenames when it contains non ascii chars [20:35] jmarsden, in filenames, i can't copy filenames when it contains non ascii chars [20:36] Hmmm. It should, I think... I'll test it here... [20:36] PCManFM shows ? instead of the special char [20:38] ë, é and such show as a questionmark, I use the Dutch localised version of Lubuntu, 11.04 i think this is [20:41] samuel_: For me it works fine... in Lubuntu 11.04. I have files named ıntəˈnæʃənəl and ∀x∈ℝ (just to use some really weird characters!) and they show up fine. [20:42] jmarsden, any idea what could be the cause? [20:42] Sounds like something somewhere told pcmanfm to use USASCII, or to use a font that does not have the characters you need in it? [20:43] Is "the Ducth localized version of 11.04" the official ISO, but installed for the Dutch language? Or some unofficial version someone made in the Netherlands?? [20:44] jmarsden, i can create a empty textfile with nonascii chars [20:44] its the official version [20:44] OK. I did echo "∀x∈ℝ" >∀x∈ℝ [20:45] to create one of my test files... worked fine, then I fired up pcmanfm and looked at that folder, and it displays correctly. [20:45] after installation i get the option to upgrade some software to my local though but that is not the cause [20:45] mmm, i use sabnzb to download stuff [20:46] those file are unzipped by sabnab to [20:46] What is sabnzb?? And where did you get it from? [20:46] jmarsden, SABnzbd is an Open Source Binary Newsreader written in Python [20:46] Oh, some sort of file downloader tool... OK. [20:47] If you do echo "∀x∈ℝ" >∀x∈ℝ in LXterminal, and then ls, do you see the filename displayed correctly in the terminal? [20:47] works fine perhaps the unzip/unrar thingy is the cause [20:48] OK, so yes... sounds like pcmanfm is not the problem :) [20:48] jmarsden, yeah the echo works fine [20:48] so we can rule out Lubuntu to? [20:48] OK, and now in pcmanfm does that file look good? [20:49] jmarsden, it does show up correct yes [20:49] seems sabnzb related then [20:49] OK. So pcmanfm is fne. If you installed sabnzbdplus from the Ubuntu repositories, and it has an internationalization issue, you could file a bug against that package. [20:50] jmarsden, i just did sudo apt-get install sabnzb [20:50] and it installed fine [20:51] its not a big problem, i guess it will be fixed at some point [20:51]