[00:29] <Ahmuck-Jr> clear
[02:04] <dream1> bonsoir unn francais !
[02:15] <LAcan> salut #ubuntu-fr
[02:15] <LAcan> err oops
[02:15] <LAcan> wrong channel
[02:15] <LAcan> mauvaise chaine ?
[02:45] <sagaci> any plans to make the grub boot menu have a bluey background
[02:48] <KM0201> sagaci: you should be able to do that on your own
[02:48] <KM0201> if you really want to.
[03:03] <sagaci> ok I'll see how this gors
[03:03] <sagaci> goes*
[03:21] <mikedep333> hey, is there a summary of the lxde.org domain name / website status?
[04:09] <Ahmuck-Jr> there is a delay in application launch.  is there a way to speed application launches up?
[04:12] <Semitones> Hey could we change the installer next year so it tells you you can keep your old /home if you choose manual install, and set your old partition as root without clicking format?
[04:26] <Ahmuck-Jr> if your doing manual installation, this is something you'd know anyway?
[04:26] <Ahmuck-Jr> did you loose /home?
[04:27] <Semitones> no I just foolishly made another partition and installed to there
[04:27] <Semitones> because I didn't know what I wanted to do was possible
[04:27] <Ahmuck-Jr> ah
[04:28] <Ahmuck-Jr> manual install, carve out 1024mb for swap, at end, 10240 for / partion at beggining and then select remaining in the middle as /home (ext3)
[04:29] <Ahmuck-Jr> er, manual partitioning
[05:04] <Semitones> Ahmuck-Jr, apparently you don't need a home partition
[05:04] <Semitones> if you tell the installer to install over your old / partition, but without format, then it deletes everything that's not /home or /usr/local
[05:04] <Semitones> or so i was told in #ubuntu
[05:14] <Ahmuck-Jr> that is correct
[05:14] <Ahmuck-Jr> you need to set up a seperate primary partition
[05:14] <Ahmuck-Jr> if you have everything in / then you'd need to do a backup first
[05:15] <Ahmuck-Jr> so, three primary partitions, / /home /swap
[05:15] <Ahmuck-Jr> ext3
[05:16] <KM0201> Semitones: hmm, i didn't know that (that if you don't format, it doesn't format /home)
[05:16] <KM0201> i never keep /home on a separate partition anyway
[05:17] <Semitones> KM0201, I used to, and I had a separate /boot as well, but with grub2 that wasn't necessary anymore
[05:17] <KM0201> ya
[05:20] <mr-rich> Ok ... minimal install is done ... /proc/meminfo looks good & df shows 20% if disk space is used ...
[05:20] <mr-rich> However ...
[05:21] <mr-rich> upon reboot, I have what looks like X starting ... It's just a screen with a blinking cursor on it ...
[05:22] <mr-rich> I used CTRL-ALT-F2 to get to a terminal ... as far as I can tell, X doesn't appear to be running ...
[05:23] <mr-rich> I assume I continue the lubuntu install from CLI?
[05:26] <mr-rich> or should I take care of the X thing first?
[07:28] <tdn> I use lxdm in lubuntu. How do I change the lxdm theme/background image?
[07:49] <bioterror> tdn, titia@konna:~$ cat /etc/lxdm/default.conf
[07:49] <bioterror> tdn, bg=/usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png
[08:03] <tdn> bioterror, ok Thanks
[08:04] <tdn> bioterror, bg in which section? There is no bg variable in my config.
[08:05] <bioterror> hmmm what
[08:05] <bioterror> has they changed things in 11.04
[08:07] <tdn> Probably.
[08:07] <tdn> But I can add the bg var. But in which section?
[08:08] <tdn> http://paste.adora.dk/P2056.txt
[08:08] <tdn> This is my config
[08:09] <bioterror> should I install 11.04 to my laptop?
[08:09] <bioterror> then again, I could move to ocelot
[08:10] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:10]  * bioterror rubs his head
[08:10] <bioterror> takes a while to compile unetbootin
[08:13] <tdn> 11.04 is nice, I think.
[08:13] <tdn> bioterror, do you know how I can change theme/background in lxdm in my config?
[08:14] <bioterror> takes a while and I know
[08:14] <bioterror> about 30mins
[08:14] <bioterror> as they have changed settings in lxdm config
[08:28] <tdn> Ok
[08:31] <bioterror> doing some backups ;)
[08:32] <MrChrisDruif> Good going bioterror
[08:32] <bioterror> takes a while to move chromium folder
[08:33] <MichealH> lol, it reminds me of a geeky joke xD
[08:33] <bioterror> yeah
[08:33] <bioterror> .config moved
[08:33] <bioterror> reboot to install
[08:33] <bioterror> if unetbootin works :D
[08:34] <MichealH> It said "To compress backups really well do [REALLY BAD COMMAND]" ;)
[08:38] <bioterror> hahaha
[08:38] <bioterror> I had to copy paste / mark from terminal to installer that I can manually make partitions
[08:39] <bioterror> and this did not want to make me a jfs partitions
[08:39] <bioterror> w t f
[08:41] <bioterror> no xfs neither
[08:42] <MrChrisDruif> ??
[08:43] <bioterror> its not enough that plymouth sucks, but ubiquity sucks even more
[08:44] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[08:44] <MrChrisDruif> A bit offtopic, isn't it? O:-)
[08:45] <bioterror> seems like youre doomed to use ext4
[08:45] <bioterror> as your /
[08:45] <bioterror> no its not
[08:45] <bioterror> ubiquity is lubuntus installer
[08:47] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, but me thinks this is a support channel. Discussing things like ubiquity and it's "flaws" isn't really suited here :)
[08:49] <bioterror> give me support for my problems
[08:49] <bioterror> I want to use jfs as my fs for the -
[08:49] <bioterror> /
[08:49] <bioterror> how can I do that?
[08:52] <bioterror> if I want to use only one filesytem for my installation, I would use Windows and NTFS
[08:59] <bioterror> MrChrisDruif, Y U NO SPEAK?!
[08:59] <MrChrisDruif> What?
[09:00] <MrChrisDruif> With no mentions I respond not all the time :)
[09:00] <MrChrisDruif> chrome.angrybirds.com ;)
[09:00] <bioterror> is that your host.domain?
[09:01] <MrChrisDruif> host.domain? Of my website?
[09:17] <MrChrisDruif> But I thought you could install *buntu on any FS like JFS
[09:18] <bioterror> not in year 2011
[09:18] <bioterror> tdn, now I'm on lubuntu 11.04 and having my terminal fixed
[09:20] <bioterror> /usr/share/themes/Lubuntu-default/openbox-3/themerc
[09:21] <bioterror> that doesnt have wallpaper
[09:22] <bioterror> tdn, 260K/usr/share/lxdm/themes/Lubuntu/wall.png
[09:23] <bioterror> tdn, you can create easily own themes ;)
[09:27] <bioterror> cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5
[09:27] <bioterror> cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab
[09:27] <bioterror> :---)
[09:34] <bioterror> plymouth not working properly after first update
[09:34]  * bioterror shows his suprised face
[09:35] <MrChrisDruif> O_O <= this one?
[09:39] <bioterror> MrChrisDruif, http://memegenerator.net/instance/7804359
[09:41]  * MrChrisDruif goes offline TTYL
[10:05] <buff27> how does ubuntu compare to xubuntu? does it use less ram/cpu ?
[10:11] <buff27> * I mean lubuntu compare to xubuntu
[10:14] <EagleScreen> hello
[10:14] <EagleScreen> what bluetooth packages shoild I install to transfer files from cell phone to laptop?
[10:20] <EagleScreen> mmm I see that gnomebluetooth is already installed
[10:30] <bioterror> EagleScreen, bluez? or something
[10:31] <bioterror> I use memorycard reader
[10:31] <bioterror> it's easier and faster
[10:31] <EagleScreen> gnome-bluetooth is working well
[11:13] <head_victim> phillw: ping
[11:13] <head_victim> I would like to suggest for that wiki we use lists instead of headings for each
[11:13] <head_victim> Maybe a heading for each release and then a list for each download as a compromise
[11:14] <head_victim> (To keep it all in the correct style ;) )
[11:19] <esmirlin> hey people! just a question, is it possible to install dropbox on lubuntu? i'm just trying CrunchBang Linux cause ubuntu is too big and heavy for my netbook but i'm so used to ubuntu i wanna try lubuntu but i'm afraid of not being able to do the same work as in the Ubuntu one
[11:20] <head_victim> esmirlin: I'm sure I heard someone saying they use it with pcmanfm in here (pcmanfm is the default file manager in Lubuntu)
[11:22] <head_victim> esmirlin: http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=27035
[11:23] <esmirlin> thanks!
[11:24] <esmirlin> and what about crunchbang? is it lighter than lubuntu?
[11:24] <head_victim> I have not ever used crunchbang sorry so I don't really know. What are the specs of the hardware you are using?
[11:27] <esmirlin> head_victim, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5437
[11:27] <head_victim> Ah it runs fine on my wife's really old 600mhz celeron with 512 ram ;)
[11:28] <esmirlin> ooki i'll try thanks!
[11:28] <head_victim> Glad to help :)
[11:29] <esmirlin> ^^
[11:33] <stlsaint> IM BACK
[11:35] <head_victim> QUICK HIDE
[11:35] <tdn> bioterror, but how do I select another wallpaper or theme?
[11:35] <stlsaint> oh no you dont
[11:45] <tdn> Huh?
[12:01] <esmirlin> hey folk! i burnt the iso into a usb using unetbootin and usb-creator but it didn't boot into lubuntu installation :S
[12:04] <stlsaint> esmirlin: well what did it do?
[12:04] <esmirlin> it splash a the comand console
[12:05] <esmirlin> *sorry for my english :S
[12:05] <esmirlin> it splashes the command line
[12:09] <stlsaint> esmirlin: what type of computer are you using?
[12:10] <esmirlin> stlsaint, a netbook
[12:11] <MichealH> head_victim, phillw has been real quiet today
[12:12] <stlsaint> care to elaborate
[12:12] <head_victim> MichealH: it would appear so, maybe he has some real life stuff to take care off, hmmmph real life getting in the way of the online world.
[12:12] <head_victim> stlsaint: asus eee 1005pe
[12:13] <MichealH> head_victim, :P
[12:13] <stlsaint> head_victim: how dare that real life....smh
[12:14] <head_victim> esmirlin: so doesn't work at all, only shows the splash and sits on that, or goes toa  terminal after the splash?
[12:14] <stlsaint> head_victim: huh?
[12:15] <victor__> stlsaint, it sais there's no init found
[12:15] <victor__> i've tried it like 4 times using differents pc's and different software and no chance :(
[12:16] <stlsaint> how is everyone able to post what the issue is cept the on needing support :P
[12:17] <victor__> :(
[12:20] <stlsaint> victor__: did you verify the iso prior to burning it? md5 and all that jazz
[12:21] <victor__> yes
[12:21] <victor__> all is ok
[12:21] <victor__> i've tried another "buntu" distro like kubuntu and ubuntu and it just worked
[12:24] <victor__> stlsaint,
[12:25] <stlsaint> victor__: what iso did you download?
[12:25] <victor__> http://www.linoob.com/2011/04/lubuntu-11-04-final-released/
[12:26] <victor__> stlsaint,
[12:30] <stlsaint> victor__: it is possible that site has a corrupt iso, it is highly unlikely that you are able to use ubuntu but not lubuntu
[12:31] <head_victim> stlsaint: it links direct to the correct places
[12:31] <stlsaint> victor__: well that sucks
[12:31] <head_victim> It's a little perplexing.
[12:31] <stlsaint> victor__: i assume it would be hardware related in that case
[12:31] <head_victim> victor__: so does it hang at the splash, before the splash or give you a terminal after the splash?
[12:33] <stlsaint> head_victim: i did have the same issue with the alpha iso but i just assumed that was cause it was alpha
[12:33] <stlsaint> on another netbook from a guy who wanted linux
[12:34] <head_victim> stlsaint: ah fair call but it seems like direct, correct links at the bottom of the page
[12:34] <victor__> i just see the terminal without anything else, initrads:
[12:38] <victor__> i don't know what to doo
[12:38] <victor__> o
[12:38] <victor__> *do
[12:38] <victor__> should i use unetbootin with sudo?
[12:39] <stlsaint> head_victim: that also sounds like a fail on unetbootin
[12:39] <stlsaint> not packing initrd correctly
[12:39] <head_victim> I always use startup disk creator from within another Ubuntu installation
[12:39] <victor__> stlsaint, did you try?
[12:40] <stlsaint> victor__: yes
[12:40] <stlsaint> head_victim: when i tried with final releaes and unetbootin it just hands at splash screen for me
[12:40] <head_victim> stlsaint: sounds exactly like what that person was experiencing
[12:41] <stlsaint> cept im not on a netbook
[12:41] <stlsaint> head_victim: maybe this is something to look into?
[12:42] <head_victim> stlsaint: sure, we need to find someone with a netbook :)
[12:42] <stlsaint> i have one i can try right quick
[12:42] <stlsaint> one sec
[12:44] <stlsaint> head_victim: seems to be same with me
[12:44] <head_victim> Hmm bug report time?
[12:44] <stlsaint> looks like it
[12:44] <head_victim> Double check with an actual cd copy as well?
[12:45] <stlsaint> head_victim: wont be able to on netbook
[12:45] <head_victim> Ah good point
[12:45] <head_victim> I'm a bit tired apparently ;)
[12:45] <stlsaint> hehe
[12:46] <head_victim> gilir: what information would oyu like in a bug report that seems to render unetbootin USB drives unbootable on netbooks for 11.04?
[12:47] <stlsaint> head_victim: if i choose to install ubuntu i make it to splash screen but then it loops on goign thru the dots
[12:47] <head_victim> stlsaint: ahh press a key, it might be looking to find the drive for installation
[12:47] <head_victim> I recall having that exact issue in a previous release
[12:48] <stlsaint> hit enter then space bar with nothing
[12:49] <head_victim> Just trying to remember the error it was cycling to find what bug it was
[12:49] <stlsaint> yep im looping
[12:50] <stlsaint> WHOA
[12:50] <stlsaint> one sec
[12:50] <stlsaint> crap i missed it
[12:50] <gilir> head_victim, the steps to reproduces, and if it's tested on standard Ubuntu
[12:51] <head_victim> gilir: no worries, it's looking like a previous error I once had trying to find it
[12:52] <stlsaint> man i gotta record what just happened on system
[12:52] <head_victim> Just give me an error line to google :)
[12:52] <stlsaint> lol i think i can do ya one better
[12:53] <stlsaint> head_victim: whats your email
[12:53] <head_victim> jarednorris at ubuntu dot com :)
[12:54] <stlsaint> head_victim: sent
[12:55] <stlsaint> ima try and get some video of the massive errors it just went thru
[12:55] <stlsaint> went streaming all over the screen :D
[12:56] <head_victim> Ah that's different to what I was thinking of but still an error none the less
[12:57] <stlsaint> yep
[12:58] <stlsaint> though i cant tell what it really means
[13:00] <head_victim> Lets hope they return so we can ask more questions
[13:03] <stlsaint> head_victim: well i couldnt send the video of the streaming stuff but another part of the errror popped before ending with (initramfs)
[13:03] <stlsaint> head_victim: emailed ya ;)
[13:03] <head_victim> stlsaint: got the screenshot
[13:04] <stlsaint> head_victim: the one i just sent?
[13:04] <stlsaint> initramfs one
[13:05] <head_victim> Yep
[13:05] <stlsaint> aye that seems to be the last of it
[13:07] <stlsaint> bug time?
[13:08] <head_victim> Can you install normal Ubuntu without the errors?
[13:11] <stlsaint> head_victim: wish i could test but i dont have a ubuntu iso, only other variants :D
[13:12] <head_victim> Try any of them then
[13:13] <stlsaint> head_victim: i did
[13:13] <stlsaint> head_victim: the others work
[13:13] <head_victim> Bug time
[13:13] <stlsaint> debian, back-track, crunchbang
[13:18] <head_victim> As per our great leader, we need the steps to reproduce and report it against the lubuntu-meta package :)
[13:19] <stlsaint> 1. Download lubuntu 11.04 :D
[13:19] <stlsaint> 2. Use unetbootin to create bootable usb
[13:20] <stlsaint> hehe
[13:20] <stlsaint> 3. Boot into the usb on a netbook
[13:20] <stlsaint> 4. BUG!!
[13:22] <stlsaint> head_victim: you filing bug or should i?
[13:23] <head_victim> I'll let you do it as you have the ability to reproduce and answer questions if that's ok
[13:23] <stlsaint> roger that
[13:25] <stlsaint> head_victim: you say lubuntu-meta as in this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta
[13:26] <head_victim> That's the one according to the Lubuntu wiki
[13:27] <stlsaint> alright ill report it there
[13:38] <stlsaint> woot bug filed
[13:42] <FernandoBasso> The new version of Lubuntu is awesome!
[13:45] <stlsaint> FernandoBasso: glad to hear it
[13:46] <head_victim> stlsaint: nice bug report, just got it in the inbo
[13:46] <head_victim> inbox
[13:46] <head_victim> bug 782997
[13:46] <FernandoBasso> I am really serious. Fast as arch linux, but 'beatiful BY DEFAULT'. :)
[13:47] <stlsaint> head_victim: thankx
[13:47] <head_victim> FernandoBasso: that's the goals of the system :) So glad you found it and like it
[13:47] <FernandoBasso> I don't know why hasn't Canonical adopted Lubuntu officially yet.
[13:48] <stlsaint> head_victim: sshhhhhhhhh ;D
[13:48] <head_victim> FernandoBasso: it's just waiting a hardware upgrade from Canonical to move it to offical
[13:48] <stlsaint> lol
[13:48] <stlsaint> fail
[13:49] <stlsaint> was hoping julien would chime on that bit :D
[13:49] <FernandoBasso> That unity is a not easy to used. Not practical. And niether gnome3. It seems unity and gnome3 philosophy is "the app you need is just 15 clicks away".
[13:50] <stlsaint> lol interesting analogy
[13:51] <FernandoBasso> I used to use openbox and lxde. But I sincerely hopped that either gnome3 or unity would bring something 'useful'. At least for me, they are no easy to use. Neither are they intuitive, and almost zero-configurable.
[13:52] <FernandoBasso> And since I already am a fan of openbox and lxde in general, I can't help feeling that you guys have just made openbox and lxde even more great than they already are.
[13:53] <head_victim> I have yet to try unity I must admin
[13:53] <head_victim> admit*
[13:53] <stlsaint> same here
[13:57] <FernandoBasso> I have an opinion, for example, that a house is a house. The way we know 'houses' up to the present time seems to actually be the best way. What other ways could be build a house and make it still be 'practical'? I think the same holds true to desktops. nothingspecial like being able to have virtual vorkspaces and still be able to 'minimize' windows', have a toolbar with the most important icons there. Gnome3 doesn'
[13:58] <FernandoBasso> Perhaps in with the time some things will be improved and usability may get better.
[14:02] <head_victim> I'm thinking 12.04 will be when unity shines or rusts
[14:09] <KM0201> head_victim: i agree (but unity really isn't that bad in 11.04, but it does need some work, and like you, I think it will be a gradual process)
[14:12] <head_victim> KM0201: yep, can only get better really.
[14:15] <FernandoBasso> My doubt is whether the paradigm of 'desktop' can be changed so much.
[14:15] <FernandoBasso> I am not saying that it is not possible, though.
[14:16] <FernandoBasso> Specially, the way we 'manage' the desktop in general.
[14:24] <kalithlev> if i create some custom .desktop files, how do i get them to show up in lxpanel?
[14:25] <mr-rich> ok ... rebooted after installing mini.iso & apt-get'ing lubuntu ... I have no X ... blank screen ...
[14:27] <bioterror> kalithlev, by defining proper Category=
[14:28] <bioterror> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[14:28] <mr-rich> screen on F7 sez "*Starting NTP server" & "*Starting bluetooth" ... blinking cursor ...
[14:29] <mr-rich> I can get to a console (CTRL-ALT-F1/F6) ...
[14:29] <bioterror> say "startx"
[14:29] <kalithlev> i don't really want to put them in /usr/share/applications bioterror
[14:30] <bioterror> that's what the specification says
[14:31] <FernandoBasso> (09:49) < head_vict> FernandoBasso: it's just waiting a hardware upgrade from Canonical to move it to offical. <--- What?
[14:33] <Ahmuck-Jr> unity is ok, and works for tablets, not for desktops
[14:33] <mr-rich> bioterror: not at a console ...blank screen with just those words ... I'll try it at a console screen ...
[14:33] <Ahmuck-Jr> for example, the hiding part, doesn't work for some of us on desktops, but on table would make sense
[14:34] <FernandoBasso> I guess you are right.
[14:34] <Ahmuck-Jr> single clicks are fine, but on a desktop configuraiton options via right mouse click are still important
[14:35] <Ahmuck-Jr> unity bar needs soem configuration options, for tablet or desktop setup
[14:36] <Ahmuck-Jr> i liked it but it limited my abilty to work from my desktop
[14:38] <FernandoBasso> I think anyone who knows how to configure openbox would probably be much more satisfied with it than kde/gnome/unity. And I myself know the very basics.
[14:40] <FernandoBasso> For example, gnome2.x never had an option to change desktops with the mouse wheel.
[17:20] <cjohnston> I'm trying to run 64bit as a live cd from a usb stick and im getting a stdin: error 0
[17:20] <cjohnston> any ideas?
[17:35] <Relevant> I cant seem to fine a lubuntu live disc ISO
[17:40] <LAcan> Relevant, it exists
[17:41] <LAcan> Relevant, http://lubuntu.net/
[17:47] <Ahmuck-Jr> is there a leak in flash in lubuntu?
[18:02] <fredarko> i am the latest user but i have not yet been registered.
[18:13] <KM0201> Ahmuck-Jr: i think so.. honestly,l i installed the flasth 10.3 beta, it fixed a lot of problems for me
[18:24]  * Ahmuck-Jr is finding a lot of bugs ...
[18:25] <KM0201> Ahmuck-Jr: and windows is bug free?
[18:26] <KM0201> Ahmuck-Jr: what "bugs" are you finding (i think to often newbs say something is a bug, and in reality, they just don't now what they're talking about)
[18:31] <Ahmuck-Jr> honestly?  well, panel bar, Panel Settings --> Panel Preferences --> Application Launch Bar --> Edit --> Window opens behind the existing one
[18:32] <KM0201> lol, you're really that geeked up about a window placement issue?
[18:32] <KM0201> move the freaking window on top of it, and set it up
[18:32] <Ahmuck-Jr> focus is wrong
[18:32]  * KM0201 laughs    
[18:32] <KM0201> you should stick w/ bug free windows.
[18:33] <Ahmuck-Jr> Panel Settings on left click, but title says Panel Preferences
[18:33]  * Ahmuck-Jr kicks KM0201 int he shins
[18:33] <KM0201> Ahmuck-Jr: you're really griping about stupid stuff, are they  minor things? of course, but I can't believe someone would even be upset about a menu saying "panel settings" and then going to a "panel preferences" window.
[18:34] <Ahmuck-Jr> it's inconsistant
[18:34] <KM0201> well, win 7 is super consistant, that should work well for you.
[18:34]  * KM0201 shakes his head
[18:34] <KM0201> i'm just curious if either of those "bugs" effect functionality at all?
[18:35] <Ahmuck-Jr> the title, no, the focus, yes
[18:35] <KM0201> you see those two things and you say "there's a lot of bugs"... im not sure whether to laugh or cry
[18:35] <KM0201> how does the focus cause a problem?
[18:35] <Ahmuck-Jr> it's an extra mouse click
[18:35] <KM0201> move the over window, and adjust the "unfocused" window as you see fit
[18:35] <Ahmuck-Jr> move and click
[18:35] <KM0201> oh geez.
[18:38] <Ahmuck-Jr> i suppose i could move back to ubuntu
[18:38] <Ahmuck-Jr> >-)
[18:43] <Ahmuck-Jr> sudo aptitude install lynx
[18:43] <Ahmuck-Jr> er
[18:44] <Ahmuck-Jr> KM0201: i understand good gui design
[18:45] <KM0201> it's not perfect by any stretch, but you're making out a couple minor GUI bugsto be serious issues.
[19:07] <Ahmuck-Jr> KM0201: why did you assume I was upset rather than merely reporting the issues
[19:08] <KM0201> Ahmuck-Jr: cuz this isn't where you report issues?
[19:08] <KM0201> and comments like "I understand good GUI design"...
[19:08] <Ahmuck-Jr> sorry.  i'll take it to #lubuntu-offtopic in the future
[19:09] <KM0201> not really for off topic either.. if you think something is a bug, then just file a bug report
[19:10] <Ahmuck-Jr> i'll pass.  i'm not to fond of bug reporting in launchpad.  in the past i've reported bugs there as well, navigating, and nothing get's done there.
[19:10] <Ahmuck-Jr> i've found it best to not report them at all
[19:11] <KM0201> Ahmuck-Jr: lol, well if nothng is getting done, then likely what you're reporting is either 1. not a bug, or 2. a low priority that will be fixed later
[19:11] <KM0201> there's been lots of bugs fixed as a result of launchpad reports
[19:12] <Ahmuck-Jr> conversation finished
[19:13] <KM0201> if thats how you feel.. but i've reported bugs plenty of times to launchpad (or signed on to ones already reported) and quite a few of them have been fixed in the past.  right now the only one I'm on, is the vlc bug..
[19:17] <bioterror> eipä tolla kanavalla 223 tee kyllä vittujakaa
[19:17] <bioterror> ohop
[19:17] <bioterror> wrong window :D
[19:20] <FernandoBasso> Janela errada!
[20:09] <esmirlin> hey guys, what about changing the login screen background?
[20:16] <jmarsden> esmirlin: man lxdm     will show you what config file to edit for that.
[20:16] <MrChrisDruif> jmarsden; Natty uses lightdm right? ;)
[20:16] <bioterror> why would it use
[20:17] <jmarsden> I've never heard of lightdm... will check... my lubuntu1104 VM uses lxdm as far as I can see :)
[20:17] <jmarsden> MrChrisDruif: There is no lightdm in my Lubuntu 1104 setup, so I think you are mistaken ?
[20:18] <MrChrisDruif> jmarsden; Might be so...I'll check what the release notes say
[20:19] <bioterror> MrChrisDruif, something to read for you: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html
[20:19] <esmirlin> still not sure of where is the pic located :S
[20:20] <bioterror> it's in the theme folder
[20:20] <bioterror> wall.png
[20:21] <jmarsden> /usr/share/lxdm/themes/Lubuntu/wall.png  # but dont edit it, create a new theme and set lxdm to use your new custom theme.
[20:22] <esmirlin> why?
[20:22] <bioterror> cp -r Lubuntu newtheme
[20:23] <bioterror> and edit /etc/lxdm/default.conf to use another theme
[20:23] <jmarsden> esmirlin: Because that is how the whole system is designed, to be themable... :)
[20:23] <bioterror> esmirlin, when you mess your system, you have something to rollback to
[20:23] <esmirlin> :P
[20:23] <esmirlin> thanks guys!
[20:24] <jmarsden> esmirlin: You're welcome.
[20:32] <iphaRa> hello guys, how can I change the screen resolution to 1024x600? there is no such resolution in Start>Preferences>Monitor Settings
[20:33] <samuel_> does anyone know when PCManFM 0.9.9 starts supporting UTF-8?
[20:34] <jmarsden> samuel_: In filenames?  Or it its localized user interface translation files??
[20:35] <samuel_> in filenames, i can't copy filenames when it contains non ascii chars
[20:35] <samuel_> jmarsden,  in filenames, i can't copy filenames when it contains non ascii chars
[20:36] <jmarsden> Hmmm.  It should, I think... I'll test it here...
[20:36] <samuel_> PCManFM shows ? instead of the special char
[20:38] <samuel_> ë, é and such show as a questionmark, I use the Dutch localised version of Lubuntu, 11.04 i think this is
[20:41] <jmarsden> samuel_: For me it works fine... in Lubuntu 11.04.  I have files named ıntəˈnæʃənəl and ∀x∈ℝ  (just to use some really weird characters!) and they show up fine.
[20:42] <samuel_> jmarsden, any idea what could be the cause?
[20:42] <jmarsden> Sounds like something somewhere told pcmanfm to use USASCII, or to use a font that does not have the characters you need in it?
[20:43] <jmarsden> Is "the Ducth localized version of 11.04" the official ISO, but installed for the Dutch language?  Or some unofficial version someone made in the Netherlands??
[20:44] <samuel_> jmarsden, i can create a empty textfile with nonascii chars
[20:44] <samuel_> its the official version
[20:44] <jmarsden> OK.  I did    echo "∀x∈ℝ" >∀x∈ℝ
[20:45] <jmarsden> to create one of my test files... worked fine, then I fired up pcmanfm and looked at that folder, and it displays correctly.
[20:45] <samuel_> after installation i get the option to upgrade some software to my local though but that is not the cause
[20:45] <samuel_> mmm, i use sabnzb to download stuff
[20:46] <samuel_> those file are unzipped by sabnab to
[20:46] <jmarsden> What is sabnzb??  And where did you get it from?
[20:46] <samuel_> jmarsden, SABnzbd is an Open Source Binary Newsreader written in Python
[20:46] <jmarsden> Oh, some sort of file downloader tool... OK.
[20:47] <jmarsden> If you do    echo "∀x∈ℝ" >∀x∈ℝ    in LXterminal, and then ls, do you see the filename displayed correctly in the terminal?
[20:47] <samuel_> works fine perhaps the unzip/unrar thingy is the cause
[20:48] <jmarsden> OK, so yes... sounds like pcmanfm is not the problem :)
[20:48] <samuel_> jmarsden, yeah the echo works fine
[20:48] <samuel_> so we can rule out Lubuntu to?
[20:48] <jmarsden> OK, and now in pcmanfm does that file look good?
[20:49] <samuel_> jmarsden, it does show up correct yes
[20:49] <samuel_> seems sabnzb related then
[20:49] <jmarsden> OK.  So pcmanfm is fne.  If you installed sabnzbdplus from the Ubuntu repositories, and it has an internationalization issue, you could file a bug against that package.
[20:50] <samuel_> jmarsden, i just did sudo apt-get install sabnzb
[20:50] <samuel_> and it installed fine
[20:51] <samuel_> its not a big problem, i guess it will be fixed at some point
[20:51] <jmarsden> OK... except that there is no package named sabnzb in the official Ubuntu repos that I can find... did you get it from an unofficial repository?
[20:53] <samuel_> how come it installed fine using the command request?
[20:53] <lighta> probably not same repo
[20:53] <jmarsden> I don't know, sudo apt-get install sabnzb does not find such a package for me here.  sudo apt-get install sabnzbdplus does.
[20:54] <jmarsden> samuel_: Did you add any non-standard repositories to your machine?
[20:54] <samuel_> yes, my mistake its fullname is indeed sabnzbdplus
[20:54] <samuel_> jmarsden, firefox and opera
[20:55] <samuel_> i guess those are not supported
[20:55] <jmarsden> OK.  I sugges you file a bug in Launchpad against that package and provide details on how to duplicate the issue, and hopefully someone will fix it.
[20:55] <samuel_> i
[20:56] <samuel_> i'll try to duplicate it first
[20:56] <jmarsden> Sure.
[20:57] <samuel_> i did have happen something strange just 2 days ago
[20:58] <samuel_> when turning on my notebook with Lubuntu 11.04 installed it would give me a login screen instead
[20:58] <samuel_> have not seen that before
[20:58] <samuel_> even more strange, i could not login in with my username/password
[20:59] <samuel_> had to reinstall everything
[22:17] <KM0201> where is the 64bit download
[23:39] <Morganvd> evening
[23:39] <Morganvd> anyone know how i can remove xchat without removing lubuntu-desktop
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Morganvd; I've read something about "removing lubuntu-desktop" and when it's okay...
[23:51] <MrChrisDruif> Looking for it now
[23:53] <MrChrisDruif> Morganvd; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/RemoveLubuntuDesktop
[23:54] <Ahmuck-Jr> bug #h2a4462b - ctl-alt-Fx, screen is white with garbage letters.  on tty working.
[23:56] <cjohnston> Ahmuck-Jr: im getting the same thing
[23:56] <cjohnston> this time it ended saying connecting to plymouth: connection refused