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paultagbraiam: Did you verify with xchat?04:30
paultagbraiam: mark it as confirmed and I'll set to triaged / wishlist04:31
paultagbraiam: (but only mark it if you can duplicate)04:31
paultagI don't have xchat here, so I can't test (and i'm way to lazy to be installing it) :)04:31
paultagit looks like a regression as well04:32
braiampaultag: ok, ty04:32
paultagbraiam: cheers, poke me after you test :)04:33
iktis xchat still under active development?04:33
paultagikt: yeah04:33
paultagikt: I reported a bug on it a while back on SF and it got fixed04:33
* paultag shrugs04:33
iktah nice04:33
paultag:)04:33
braiampaultag: remember me the no of the bug04:34
paultag07:03 < braiam> bug 448736 is a wish04:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 448736 in xchat (Ubuntu) "Default download folder is not ideal (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44873604:34
braiampaultag: done04:35
paultagbraiam: could you comment that you reproduced it?04:36
paultagsorry for the pedantic nitpicking, I just have not tested it personally04:36
braiampaultag: anyway, how did you know that i'm using xchat04:40
paultag[Freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from braiam: xchat 2.8.8 Ubuntu04:40
paultagbraiam: but I only just did that now. You asked to have it fixed up so I'll put the work on you :)04:40
braiampaultag: sorry i'm kinda lagging a bit04:42
braiamdone04:42
paultagbraiam: np.04:42
paultagbraiam: All set, thanks!04:42
paultagbraiam: Now, xchat has an upstream bug tracking system04:43
paultagbraiam: You should forward this bug there, and then link that to this bug report04:43
paultagbraiam: after you report it, you can add the "remote" bug by clicking on "Also affects project"04:44
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JoshuaLquestion, what status should a bug get when its old and the user says that he cant reproduce it anymore? should it stay on incomplete or invalid?15:17
vishJoshuaL: if not reproduced anymore, are invalid; I use a variation of this response ยป https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs%20resolved%20after%20update%20or%20config%20change15:24
JoshuaLvish, ok ty15:25
JoshuaLvish, another question, when someone asks for more information and its status is set to incomplete and the person answers that question, what status should the bug get then?15:38
vishJoshuaL: if you think the bug has sufficient info, then triaged/confirmed.. if not ask a follow-up and leave as incomplete15:41
* vish bbiab15:41
JoshuaLvish, ok thanks again :)15:41
BigWhaleGreetings. Is anyone using thunderbird to filter launchpad email?16:00
AmpelbeinBigWhale: I did for some time16:03
BigWhaleAmpelbein, and it was actually working? For me, thunderbird is ignoring X-Launchpad-Bug headers ... As if they don't exist. I wish there was some debugging feature.16:05
AmpelbeinBigWhale: It was working fine, yes. let me quickly create a test filter16:06
Ampelbein(I'm using server side filtering now)16:06
AmpelbeinBigWhale: works, I tested with "X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale" as  header field and "Subscriber" in 'Contains'.16:08
AmpelbeinBigWhale: http://paste.ubuntu.com/607841/ is the filter16:10
BigWhalehmmm16:14
BigWhalemy filters are all type 16 ... that's the only difference I see16:17
dlbike76Hello.  Is anyone from bugcontrol online?17:13
paultagdlbike76: I have just a second17:14
Ampelbeindlbike76: I am (sort of)17:14
paultagwatching chopped :)17:14
dlbike76Ok.  I confirmed bug 772242 because I can reproduce it.17:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 772242 in tomboy (Ubuntu) "Shortcuts doesn't work (affects: 5) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77224217:14
dlbike76But I don't think the package is correct because it is a hotkey problem, so the root cause would likely be in another lower-level program.17:15
paultagdlbike76: aye, I agree17:15
dlbike76The instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting don't really help.17:15
paultagdlbike76: you should also mark that other bug as a dupe17:15
paultagit would be gnome-settings-manager, I think17:16
paultaghold on17:16
paultaggnome-settings-daemon17:16
dlbike76Yeah I'm thinking they would be the same root cause.17:16
paultagI think that does the keybindings17:16
dlbike76I'll mark the other one as a dupe and look for other possible duplicates.17:16
paultagdlbike76: yeah, retarget to gnome-settings-daemon, mark that other bug as a dupe and I'll triage17:16
paultagdlbike76: awesome17:17
paultagdlbike76: if you retarget that bug I can mark it up now before my show's back on :)17:17
paultagdlbike76: also, what severity and why, please :)17:18
dlbike76Ok I retargeted it.  Let me look at the Importance wiki and get back to you in a minute.17:19
paultaggreat :)17:19
dlbike76paultag:  I'm having a hard time with the importance.  I think high because the problem has the potential to affect the entire gnome stack.17:24
paultagdlbike76: I'd have a hard time calling it high without a really good argument17:25
paultagdlbike76: but I'm open to it. Think it out and argue it to me :)17:25
paultagdlbike76: keep in mind you can reset application level hotkeys (at least you should be able to)17:25
paultagso there's a "workaround"17:25
dlbike76Medium then?17:26
paultagdlbike76: argue it to me! :)17:26
paultagdlbike76: the whole process of learning how to handle bugs includes setting bug statuses :)17:26
dlbike76Ok.  Let me look at the Important wiki some more...17:27
paultag:)17:27
dlbike76Ok, what is the definition of a core vs non-core application?17:28
paultagdlbike76: I'm not up-to-date on that stuff anymore. I'd guess it would be stuff on the default install17:29
dlbike76This importance stuff is really discretionary...  I mean if I used 12 workspaces then I would consider it severe and classify it as high, because it seems to affect all combinations of F11 and F1217:32
paultagdlbike76: yeah, it is, but you have to weigh how common that case is17:33
dlbike76But the average use may not even notice the problem.17:33
paultagdlbike76: it's an art, not a science (yet)17:33
paultagdlbike76: right :)17:33
dlbike76I think medium would be the best balance to get it looked at and fixed ASAP.17:34
paultagdlbike76: I would have done medium myself, I think. I'll mark it Medium17:35
paultagdlbike76: can you mark bug 774870 as dupe?17:35
ubot4Launchpad bug 774870 in ubuntu "Alt-F11 and Alt-F12 keybindings no longer work (dup-of: 772242)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77487017:35
ubot4Launchpad bug 772242 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Shortcuts doesn't work (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 34)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77224217:35
paultagOh it is :)17:36
dlbike76Thanks!17:36
paultagdlbike76: thank you :)17:36
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njinhello fellow triagers, translating this line 'Since there is almost no distro patching of DX projects packaging bugs are an extremely small subset of bugs reported.' does DX means diagnostics?18:21
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paultagnjin: desktop experence18:22
paultagnjin: DX is a medical term as well, though, yeah :)18:22
njinLOL18:22
njinthanks paultag18:22
paultagnjin: sure thing, thanks for helping :)18:22
njinmine pleasure18:23
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JoshuaLcan someone triage bug 783111 for me please? I believe it has all the info needed and its improtance should be low.19:07
ubot4Launchpad bug 783111 in unity (Ubuntu) "Workspace switcher disappears when changing virtual desktop size (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78311119:07
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