| Irishmanluke | hello teddy-dbear | 00:17 |
|---|---|---|
| teddy-dbear | o/ | 00:17 |
| teddy-dbear | it's the moment of truth.... will it boot... will there be problems? | 00:47 |
| teddy-dbear | will network manger work better then it has been? | 00:49 |
| teddy-dbear | doesn't like the hardware and won't run Unity | 00:50 |
| teddy-dbear | silly Nvidia drivers | 00:55 |
| teddy-dbear | well that didn't work | 01:09 |
| teddy-dbear | without the nvidia driver compiz doesn't work now there is only a blank screen :-( | 01:11 |
| teddy-dbear | and it won't reboot | 01:11 |
| teddy-dbear | it will boot into recovery mode but not regular mode :P | 01:16 |
| teddy-dbear | that's better | 01:45 |
| teddy-dbear | back to normal | 01:45 |
| ssweeny | oh man the tiredness | 01:48 |
| knightzero | rmg51: how'd it go? | 01:51 |
| rmg51 | compiz isn't working right | 01:52 |
| rmg51 | had trouble getting to boot | 01:53 |
| rmg51 | seems to be working now | 01:54 |
| rmg51 | just can't flip the cube :-/ | 01:54 |
| knightzero | I had to fiddle around in the compiz config manager to get it working again. | 01:55 |
| rmg51 | everything is set. it just won't spin | 01:56 |
| rmg51 | that explains the cube not working | 02:31 |
| rmg51 | nvidia drives are active but not in use | 02:32 |
| rmg51 | so much for compiz | 02:32 |
| waltman | Tired | 02:34 |
| rmg51 | done for the night | 02:54 |
| teddy-dbear | nite-nite :-[ | 02:54 |
| InHisName | any one left after teddy left ? | 03:13 |
| knightzero | None that I can see. | 03:13 |
| mikedep333 | http://lxde.org/ | 03:18 |
| InHisName | Good Morning everybody and JonathanD too. | 10:04 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 11:06 |
| rmg51 | morning JonathanD | 11:38 |
| JonathanD | howdy. | 11:38 |
| rmg51 | now I have no wireless | 12:27 |
| rmg51 | 11.04 has broken too many things for my taste | 12:28 |
| rmg51 | wireless is dead | 12:36 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: which wi-fi chipset? | 12:36 |
| rmg51 | I have to look it up | 12:36 |
| mikedep333 | lspci would be sufficient | 12:36 |
| mikedep333 | or if you know the model name | 12:37 |
| rmg51 | Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT | 12:39 |
| rmg51 | this happened once before and I fixed it with a clean install | 12:42 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: that's a northbridge chipset family | 12:48 |
| mikedep333 | lspci should list something like "04:00:0 Ethernet Controller: <this-is-the-model-or-chipset-name> | 12:48 |
| mikedep333 | also | 12:49 |
| mikedep333 | you might want to grep dmesg for 'firmware' | 12:49 |
| mikedep333 | if your chipset requires binary blob firmware to be loaded | 12:49 |
| rmg51 | Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX | 12:50 |
| mikedep333 | ok, that's wired | 12:50 |
| mikedep333 | I think it uses the same prefix for a wi-fi one | 12:50 |
| rmg51 | Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG | 12:58 |
| rmg51 | picked the wrong one :-/ | 12:59 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: that should be very well supported | 13:05 |
| mikedep333 | I will still grep dmesg for 'firmware' | 13:05 |
| rmg51 | I did | 13:05 |
| rmg51 | couldn't find anything | 13:05 |
| mikedep333 | http://intellinuxwireless.org/ | 13:05 |
| PennBot | Title: Intel Wireless WiFi Link drivers for Linux* (at intellinuxwireless.org) | 13:05 |
| mikedep333 | run lsmod | 13:05 |
| mikedep333 | see if "iwlwifi" has been loaded | 13:06 |
| rmg51 | 12.366293] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG | 13:06 |
| mikedep333 | here used to be a driver specific for the 3945 hardware (ipw3945 hosted on ipw3945.sourceforge.net). This project is deprecated, please use the iwlwifi driver instead. | 13:06 |
| mikedep333 | did you upgrade from a previous release? | 13:06 |
| rmg51 | yep | 13:07 |
| mikedep333 | maybe it's trying to use the old driver | 13:07 |
| mikedep333 | run lsmod and see what driver is loaded | 13:07 |
| rmg51 | it was working for a short time | 13:07 |
| rmg51 | I've had trouble with wifi for a while | 13:07 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51, ok, but can you please run lsmod and see what driver is loaded? | 13:08 |
| rmg51 | always lost the connection | 13:08 |
| rmg51 | one moment | 13:08 |
| mikedep333 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748677 | 13:09 |
| PennBot | Title: [ubuntu] new to ubuntu wireless troubles with Intel 3945ABG - Ubuntu Forums (at ubuntuforums.org) | 13:09 |
| mikedep333 | reportedly it instantly fixed it to manually load the module: sudo modprobe iwl3945 | 13:10 |
| mikedep333 | and then: echo iwl3945 >> /etc/modules | 13:10 |
| rmg51 | doesn't look like any driver is loaded | 13:11 |
| mikedep333 | yeah | 13:11 |
| mikedep333 | try: sudo modprobe iwl3945 | 13:11 |
| mikedep333 | it looks like the 'iwl' project includes multiple modules | 13:13 |
| mikedep333 | such as 'iwlagn' | 13:13 |
| mikedep333 | but the one for your chipset is 'iwl3945' | 13:13 |
| mikedep333 | if the old driver, 'ipw3945' was loaded, that would be an issue | 13:14 |
| rmg51 | iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, in-tree:s | 13:14 |
| mikedep333 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/module-init-tools/+bug/747025 | 13:14 |
| PennBot | Title: Bug #747025 in module-init-tools (Ubuntu Natty): “Modprobe passes 11n_disable=1 option to iwl3945 which doesn't support the option” (at bugs.launchpad.net) | 13:14 |
| rmg51 | iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG | 13:15 |
| mikedep333 | iwl3945: Unknown option: 11n_disable | 13:15 |
| mikedep333 | A temporary workaround is to remove /etc/modprobe.d/intel-3945-iwlagn-disable11n.conf file and then run sudo modprobe iwl3945 . | 13:15 |
| mikedep333 | does anyone know if there is a preferred distro for trying out GNOME 3.0? | 13:24 |
| rmg51 | cannot remove `/etc/modprobe.d/intel-3945-iwlagn-disable11n.conf': No such file or directory | 13:27 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: ok | 13:27 |
| mikedep333 | does iwl3945 stay loaded when you load it? | 13:27 |
| mikedep333 | load it manually that is | 13:27 |
| rmg51 | Type: 802.11 WiFi | 13:28 |
| rmg51 | Driver: iwl3945 | 13:28 |
| rmg51 | State: unavailable | 13:28 |
| mikedep333 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748677 | 13:28 |
| PennBot | Title: [ubuntu] new to ubuntu wireless troubles with Intel 3945ABG - Ubuntu Forums (at ubuntuforums.org) | 13:28 |
| mikedep333 | try the: rfkill list all | 13:28 |
| mikedep333 | what command did you run for that output? | 13:28 |
| mikedep333 | rfkill handles the hardware buttons for disabling wi-fi | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | 12.312218] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, in-tree:s | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.312224] iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2010 Intel Corporation | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.312312] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.312328] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.366287] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: Tunable channels: 11 802.11bg, 13 802.11a channels | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.366293] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.366453] iwl3945 0000:0b:00.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | [ 12.987373] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-3945-rs' | 13:29 |
| rmg51 | any more then that and I'll flood the channel | 13:30 |
| rmg51 | but that was everything | 13:30 |
| mikedep333 | ok, try the rfkill command | 13:30 |
| mikedep333 | and verify that it is still loaded | 13:30 |
| rmg51 | 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN | 13:32 |
| rmg51 | Soft blocked: yes | 13:32 |
| rmg51 | Hard blocked: no | 13:32 |
| rmg51 | 1: phy0: Wireless LAN | 13:32 |
| rmg51 | Soft blocked: no | 13:32 |
| rmg51 | Hard blocked: yes | 13:32 |
| mikedep333 | oh, god | 13:32 |
| mikedep333 | I ran into this issue on my dell studio 14z | 13:32 |
| mikedep333 | when I tried to replace the dell wi-fi card, I had issues like this | 13:33 |
| mikedep333 | where it thinks there's 2nd wifi card by dell | 13:33 |
| mikedep333 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/523143 | 13:34 |
| PennBot | Title: Bug #523143 in linux (Ubuntu): “Wireless RFKILL defaults to on (wireless off) and can't be turned off.” (at bugs.launchpad.net) | 13:34 |
| mikedep333 | "I since managed to solve this problem on my (dell) laptop by disabling a specific kernel module called "dell-laptop"." | 13:35 |
| rmg51 | nm won't even let me enable wireless | 13:36 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah, because of an rfkill | 13:36 |
| mikedep333 | try: rmmod dell_laptop | 13:36 |
| mikedep333 | and then: rfkill list | 13:36 |
| mikedep333 | or rather: rfkill list all | 13:36 |
| rmg51 | command not found | 13:37 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: sudo rmmod dell_laptop | 13:37 |
| rmg51 | did that | 13:38 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: I would be totally amazed if "rmmod" was not available on your system | 13:38 |
| rmg51 | ERROR: Module dell_laptop does not exist in /proc/modules | 13:38 |
| mikedep333 | r m m o d | 13:38 |
| rmg51 | copied and pasted | 13:39 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: ok | 13:39 |
| mikedep333 | try running: lsmod | grep dell | 13:39 |
| rmg51 | dell_wmi 12601 0 | 13:40 |
| rmg51 | sparse_keymap 13666 1 dell_wmi | 13:40 |
| rmg51 | not much there | 13:40 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: I believe the crux of the problem is that your wi-fi adapter has a hard block with rfkill | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | as seen with: rfkill list all | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | <rmg51> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | <rmg51> Soft blocked: yes | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | <rmg51> Hard blocked: no | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | <rmg51> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | <rmg51> Soft blocked: no | 13:41 |
| mikedep333 | <rmg51> Hard blocked: yes | 13:41 |
| rmg51 | looks like this is now a desktop computer | 13:42 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: have you tried pressing the wi-fi hardware button or Fn button on your laptop? | 13:42 |
| rmg51 | like I said before, this happened once before and I fixed it with a clean install | 13:43 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: ok | 13:43 |
| rmg51 | fn F2 does nothing | 13:43 |
| rmg51 | wait | 13:43 |
| rmg51 | light just came on :-D | 13:43 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: :D | 13:44 |
| rmg51 | I have wifi | 13:44 |
| mikedep333 | ahh, a simple solution to a complex problem | 13:44 |
| rmg51 | just don't ask how it was fixed | 13:44 |
| rmg51 | no | 13:44 |
| rmg51 | I tried that several times with no result | 13:44 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: as rfkill demonstrated, there was a block on the wi-fi, presumably by the button | 13:45 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: maybe iwl3945 wasn't loaded before? | 13:45 |
| rmg51 | maybe | 13:45 |
| mikedep333 | so both steps were necessary | 13:45 |
| mikedep333 | I don't think it will hurt to echo iwl3945 > /etc/modules | 13:45 |
| rmg51 | I pushed that button so many times there is no way to know if it was o or off | 13:45 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: right | 13:45 |
| rmg51 | right now I am going to leave well enough alone :-/ | 13:46 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah, but you want it to work after you reboot, don't you? | 13:46 |
| rmg51 | reboot? what's that? | 13:47 |
| rmg51 | this laptop stay on all the time | 13:48 |
| rmg51 | it just get rebooted for kernel updates | 13:48 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: one month for now when you have to do kernel updates, then you'll have to deal with this again | 13:48 |
| mikedep333 | but echoing iwl3945 into /etc/modules might prevent that issue | 13:49 |
| rmg51 | /etc/modules: Permission denied | 13:49 |
| rmg51 | with sudo ^ | 13:49 |
| mikedep333 | run: sudo su first | 13:49 |
| mikedep333 | it's annoying how you can't easily echo with sudo | 13:49 |
| mikedep333 | WAIT | 13:50 |
| mikedep333 | echo with >> | 13:50 |
| mikedep333 | the only two lines in my /etc/modules are: | 13:51 |
| mikedep333 | lp | 13:51 |
| mikedep333 | rtc | 13:51 |
| mikedep333 | in case you overwrote it | 13:52 |
| rmg51 | I'm not showing anything | 13:52 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: cat /etc/modules | 13:52 |
| mikedep333 | ignore the comments | 13:52 |
| rmg51 | nothing | 13:53 |
| mikedep333 | hmm, crap | 13:54 |
| mikedep333 | when was /etc/modules modified? | 13:54 |
| mikedep333 | eg, 1 minute ago? | 13:54 |
| mikedep333 | or days ago when ubuntu developers prepared it? | 13:54 |
| rmg51 | no way to know | 13:55 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: loook at the timestamp | 13:55 |
| mikedep333 | right click on the file in nautilus and go to properties | 13:55 |
| mikedep333 | or run: ls -l /etc/modules | 13:56 |
| mikedep333 | or was it modified hours ago or so when you upgraded to natty? | 13:58 |
| rmg51 | upgraded yesterday | 13:58 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: ok, good | 13:58 |
| mikedep333 | that's when you upgraded to natty? | 13:58 |
| rmg51 | dated today ay 8:51 | 13:59 |
| mikedep333 | oh, crap | 13:59 |
| mikedep333 | then we overwrote it | 13:59 |
| rmg51 | iwl3945 | 13:59 |
| rmg51 | that's all that is there | 13:59 |
| mikedep333 | run: lsmod | grep lp | 13:59 |
| mikedep333 | lsmod | grep rtc | 14:00 |
| mikedep333 | my other system only has 'lp' in that file | 14:00 |
| rmg51 | root@rmg:~# lsmod | grep lp | 14:01 |
| rmg51 | lp 13349 0 | 14:01 |
| rmg51 | parport 36746 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp | 14:01 |
| rmg51 | rtc returns nothing | 14:02 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: ok | 14:02 |
| mikedep333 | after running: sudo su | 14:02 |
| mikedep333 | run: echo lp >> /etc/modules | 14:02 |
| mikedep333 | that will add 'lp' to a line on the end of the file | 14:02 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: to be honeset and upfront with you, the comamnd that I told you to run: "echo iwl3945 > /etc/modules" overwrote the file and may have messed up something else | 14:03 |
| mikedep333 | but most likely not | 14:03 |
| rmg51 | one way to find out is to just reboot and see what happens | 14:04 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: ok! | 14:04 |
| rmg51 | back shortly | 14:05 |
| mikedep333 | ok, I'll be here | 14:05 |
| rmg51 | I hope =-O | 14:05 |
| mikedep333 | hurray, you're back | 14:07 |
| rmg51 | and the wifi light is still on :-D | 14:07 |
| mikedep333 | :-D | 14:07 |
| mikedep333 | well, there | 14:07 |
| rmg51 | time for breakfast | 14:07 |
| mikedep333 | my work here is done | 14:07 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: I had breakfast at my desk while helping you | 14:08 |
| rmg51 | is it time for a nap? | 14:08 |
| mikedep333 | I'll be around later | 14:08 |
| mikedep333 | I'm going for a walk at the mall. | 14:08 |
| mikedep333 | probably grabbing coffee too | 14:08 |
| rmg51 | I should be good now | 14:08 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: enjoy! | 14:08 |
| rmg51 | now if only when I disconnect the cat5 wireless doesn't keep disconnecting me :-/ | 14:09 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: sigh, I'll see if I can help you with that later | 14:12 |
| rmg51 | once again wireless is dead | 15:35 |
| rmg51 | died all by itself :-( | 15:35 |
| JonathanD | awesome. | 15:35 |
| rmg51 | back to being a desktop computer | 15:38 |
| rmg51 | either that or just do a clean install | 15:38 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: I'm here | 15:44 |
| mikedep333 | do you want me to help you or do you want to just do a clean install? | 15:44 |
| rmg51 | wireless doesn't like this laptop | 15:45 |
| rmg51 | we can go back over everything but it will probably just break again | 15:45 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: whatever you'd like | 15:46 |
| mikedep333 | I'm the fix-it kind of person. | 15:46 |
| mikedep333 | but I have thing to do today | 15:46 |
| rmg51 | this just happened | 15:46 |
| mikedep333 | *things | 15:46 |
| rmg51 | one second it's connected the next it wasn't | 15:46 |
| rmg51 | I'm just going to let it go for now | 15:48 |
| rmg51 | I've been thinking about buying a new laptop to solve all the little problems that this one has | 15:49 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: I help people get affordable deals all the time | 15:50 |
| mikedep333 | http://www.dealigg.com/story-Sony-VPCEE42FX-T-15-5-Notebook | 15:50 |
| PennBot | Title: Best Deal: Sony VPCEE42FX/T 15.5" Notebook (at www.dealigg.com) | 15:51 |
| mikedep333 | I check dealigg.com & xpbargains.com a lot | 15:51 |
| mikedep333 | http://shop3.frys.com/product/6598753 | 15:51 |
| PennBot | Title: FRYS.com | SonyFRYS.com (at shop3.frys.com) | 15:51 |
| rmg51 | prolly go with System76 again | 15:51 |
| mikedep333 | I don't know how good that laptop is with linux/ubuntu though | 15:51 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: cool! | 15:51 |
| mikedep333 | as long as you can afford it | 15:51 |
| rmg51 | already have one of theirs | 15:51 |
| mikedep333 | which one? | 15:52 |
| PennBot | which one is it, mikedep333 | 15:52 |
| rmg51 | or at least Teddy does :-[ | 15:52 |
| rmg51 | I can never remember the names | 15:52 |
| mikedep333 | http://www.system76.com/index.php?cPath=28 | 15:53 |
| PennBot | Title: Ubuntu Laptop Computers - System76 (at www.system76.com) | 15:53 |
| mikedep333 | seriously though | 15:53 |
| rmg51 | bought it a year ago | 15:53 |
| mikedep333 | lots people want affordable 15" and 17" laptops | 15:53 |
| rmg51 | Teddy's laptop is not there | 15:53 |
| mikedep333 | they're almost following the apple strategy by making their 15" laptop start at $,225 | 15:53 |
| mikedep333 | their minimum 15" model has a quad-core core i7 | 15:54 |
| mikedep333 | one nice thing though | 15:54 |
| rmg51 | Pangolin | 15:55 |
| mikedep333 | their netbooks don't adhere to the windows 7 starter limitations | 15:55 |
| mikedep333 | like only having 1GB of RAM | 15:55 |
| mikedep333 | or max 160/250GB HDD | 15:55 |
| rmg51 | Teddy's is a quad core | 15:55 |
| rmg51 | i7 720 | 15:55 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah | 15:55 |
| mikedep333 | note that all the core i3/i5/i7 with a 4 digit number like "2310" are the next generation | 15:56 |
| rmg51 | 6 gigs of ram | 15:56 |
| mikedep333 | the big difference is that their graphics are much better | 15:56 |
| rmg51 | with ati graphics | 15:56 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: I upgrade the RAM and HDD in my (friends') laptop(s)/netbook(s) all the time | 15:56 |
| mikedep333 | RAM is about $10/GB | 15:57 |
| mikedep333 | although cheap laptop/netbook motherboards often only support 2-4GB max | 15:57 |
| mikedep333 | ie, 1 or 2 slots that can only handle sticks upto 2GB | 15:57 |
| rmg51 | I like to over buy a little | 15:57 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: well, computer's are an investment in yourself | 15:58 |
| mikedep333 | *computers | 15:58 |
| rmg51 | that way I can use it for a longer time | 15:58 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah | 15:58 |
| mikedep333 | back in the old day getting the most expensive computer didn't help too much | 15:58 |
| mikedep333 | as long as you were comfortable with upgrading the RAM on your own later | 15:58 |
| mikedep333 | or just maxing out the RAM | 15:58 |
| mikedep333 | going from a $200 CPU to a $500 CPU offered like 25% more performance | 15:59 |
| rmg51 | I did that with my first laptop | 15:59 |
| mikedep333 | but now, when you go upto a $500 CPU you double the cores for example | 15:59 |
| rmg51 | back when I only used Windows | 15:59 |
| mikedep333 | so you get like double the performance | 15:59 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah | 15:59 |
| mikedep333 | my macbook was 160GB/2GB | 15:59 |
| mikedep333 | now it' 500GB/4GB | 16:00 |
| rmg51 | running XP with 1 gig of ram | 16:00 |
| mikedep333 | XP can run well with 1GB if you avoid bloatware | 16:00 |
| rmg51 | still have it but now on Ubuntu | 16:00 |
| mikedep333 | which requires technical skills that only like 5% of all computer users have | 16:00 |
| mikedep333 | oh, one big piece of advise | 16:00 |
| rmg51 | all of 7 years old | 16:00 |
| mikedep333 | reportedly flash is very unstable on 64-bit ubuntu compared to 32-bit | 16:01 |
| mikedep333 | I am putting 32-bit ubuntu on all my systems other than my server(s) | 16:01 |
| rmg51 | mine is the other way around | 16:01 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: your laptop has a pentium-m? | 16:01 |
| mikedep333 | a core duo? | 16:01 |
| rmg51 | this one is dual core | 16:01 |
| mikedep333 | the core duo replaced the pentium-m in early 2006 | 16:01 |
| mikedep333 | then the core 2 duo replaced it in like late 2006 | 16:02 |
| rmg51 | core 2 duo | 16:02 |
| mikedep333 | I bought my core 2 duo motherboard/cpu back in like september/august 2006, as soon as it was available | 16:02 |
| rmg51 | T2350 | 16:02 |
| mikedep333 | http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=29751 | 16:03 |
| PennBot | Title: Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2350 (2M Cache, 1.86 GHz, 533 MHz FSB)with SPEC Code(s)SL9JK (at ark.intel.com) | 16:03 |
| rmg51 | this goes back 4 years | 16:03 |
| mikedep333 | the T22350 is a "Core Duo" | 16:03 |
| mikedep333 | *T2350 | 16:03 |
| rmg51 | Aug 2007 | 16:03 |
| mikedep333 | but anyway, now is a good time to buy a new intel laptop since the really nice 2nd-gen core i3/i5/i7's are out | 16:04 |
| mikedep333 | and they're a lot better | 16:04 |
| mikedep333 | and the 1st gen machines are often marked down | 16:04 |
| rmg51 | bough it not to long after Dell started to offer Ubuntu | 16:04 |
| mikedep333 | yeah | 16:04 |
| mikedep333 | AMD is going to release their "fusion" processors next month | 16:05 |
| mikedep333 | the ones with the extremely good integrated graphics built into the CPU's | 16:05 |
| rmg51 | now that I have 9,763 mp3's I need a larger harddrive | 16:05 |
| mikedep333 | now that the graphics is doing OpenCL and all to accelerate other stuff | 16:05 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: aren't they only taking up like 40GB? | 16:06 |
| mikedep333 | I bought a 500GB laptop HDD for $50 | 16:06 |
| rmg51 | closer to 50 | 16:06 |
| rmg51 | this thing only has 160 gigs | 16:06 |
| mikedep333 | but laptop manufacturers often put like 250GB HDDs in the base model and then mark up the one swith like 500GB | 16:06 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah | 16:06 |
| rmg51 | and I leave this thing on 24/7 | 16:07 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah, I'm scared of leaving my laptops on 24/7 | 16:07 |
| mikedep333 | at least when replacing the fan is non-trivial | 16:07 |
| mikedep333 | I leave desktops on 24/7 a lot | 16:07 |
| mikedep333 | and my server(s) of course | 16:07 |
| rmg51 | I don't need wireless go just bye-bye whenevere it wants | 16:07 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: right | 16:08 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: it may not be a hardware issue though | 16:08 |
| mikedep333 | you could try running an opensuse or fedora live CD and see if the problem persists | 16:08 |
| mikedep333 | anyway, bathroom | 16:08 |
| rmg51 | like I said before, this is the second time this has happened | 16:08 |
| mikedep333 | rmg51: yeah, but it could be a distro-specific issue | 16:11 |
| rmg51 | works fine on Teddy's | 16:12 |
| mikedep333 | if I were you, I'd burn the opensuse or fedora live CD and see if the problem persists before I buy a new high-end laptop | 16:12 |
| rmg51 | messed up bad on Teddy's old Dell | 16:12 |
| mikedep333 | if you need to do a live USB key, I can help you wit htaht | 16:12 |
| mikedep333 | *that | 16:12 |
| rmg51 | had to use wicd on that to get wireless | 16:13 |
| mikedep333 | I'm not sure what those 2 distros are using to manage their wired/wireless adapters | 16:13 |
| mikedep333 | now that is | 16:13 |
| mikedep333 | anyway, I'll bbl | 16:14 |
| rmg51 | I also keep an external install around | 16:14 |
| rmg51 | that upgrade went fine | 16:15 |
| InHisName | Upgrading from 10.04 -> 10.10 grub error -- can't find grub_xputs | 22:50 |
| InHisName | now at grub_rescue prompt. What can I try there ? | 22:50 |
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