[01:37] <whoaski> hey guys I'm think I need help editing my bash.rc file
[01:38] <whoaski> NOTE: Gem::Specification#default_executable= is deprecated with no replacement. It will be removed on or after 2011-10-01.
[01:38] <whoaski> Gem::Specification#default_executable= called from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/specifications/treetop-1.4.8.gemspec:11.
[01:38] <whoaski> rails (3.0.7, 3.0.0)
[01:38] <whoaski> can anybody help?
[02:26] <whoaski> I was wondering if anybody can help me
[02:26] <whoaski> http://pastebin.com/8WkhqRDC
[04:08] <holstein> whoaski: did you build it?
[14:01] <Strayfolk> I'm thinking about reinstalling my system soon... and reformatting the HD too
[14:02] <Strayfolk> which file system would you recommend for a ubuntu studio + ubuntu dual boot + shared home?
[14:07] <Strayfolk> I heard somewhere that ext3 would be more suitable for audio work, does that concern the /home partition or the /, from which the operating system is running?
[14:07] <Strayfolk> ext3 vs ext4 that is...
[14:08] <Strayfolk> I'm currently using ext4 on both /home and /
[15:42] <holstein> Strayfolk: last time
[15:42] <holstein> i did ext2
[15:42] <holstein> for my tracking partition
[15:42] <holstein> well, my tracking hard drive
[15:42] <holstein> but, this very last time, i asked around
[15:42] <holstein> and ended up going with ext4
[15:43] <holstein> i wouldnt lose any sleep over it though
[15:43] <holstein> ideally, you would not have your OS on the same hard drive you are recording to
[15:48] <Strayfolk> ok, thanks
[15:48] <Strayfolk> I don't. my sessions folder is on the home partition
[15:49] <holstein> Strayfolk: if you can
[15:50] <holstein> thats where you'd see some performance increase
[15:50] <holstein> again, i wouldnt lose sleep over it :)
[15:50] <Strayfolk> I'd like to get rid of the xruns...
[15:53] <Strayfolk> the only stable recording environment for me now is the rt-2.6.31, but that leaves me with a very crippled desktop
[15:54] <Strayfolk> I've tried some  live distros with more recent kernels, and that seems to work better for me
[15:55] <Strayfolk> I'm hoping  11.04 will perform better for me
[15:57] <holstein> Strayfolk: you tried -lowlatency?
[15:57] <holstein> the -generic kernel in 11.04 seemed much improved
[15:58] <Strayfolk> ya, lowlatency won't run
[15:58] <holstein> run?
[15:58] <Strayfolk> won't boot
[15:59] <holstein> interesting
[15:59] <holstein> might want to try re-installing
[15:59] <holstein> thats the kernel for you*
[15:59] <Strayfolk> yes, that's what I'm talking about ;)
[15:59] <holstein> if the RT is causing trouble
[15:59] <Strayfolk> I'm Gonna reinstall soon
[15:59] <holstein> Strayfolk: reinstall the kernel*
[16:00] <Strayfolk> through synaptic for instance?
[16:00] <holstein> sure
[16:00] <holstein> however you want
[16:00] <holstein> sounds like a broken package to me
[16:00] <Strayfolk> some kernels won't install with the nvidia-current pack
[16:00] <Strayfolk> I've reinstalled the nvidias
[16:01] <Strayfolk> I tried running without, but that caused total system hangs
[16:01] <Strayfolk> with the nouveau
[16:01] <holstein> im using abogani/falks kernel
[16:01] <holstein> -realtime
[16:01] <holstein> with nvidia current
[16:01] <holstein> works great :)
[16:01] <Strayfolk> exactly that one won't install for me
[16:01] <Strayfolk> sorry
[16:01] <holstein> well, i would find falk
[16:01] <holstein> and ask whats up with that
[16:01] <holstein> he has a seperate kernel PPA now
[16:02] <Strayfolk> first I'd like to reinstall the whole system, because there's so much broken / worked around that works automagically with newer kernels
[16:02] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories
[16:02] <holstein> Strayfolk: you can reinstall
[16:02] <holstein> however
[16:02] <holstein> before doing that
[16:02] <holstein> if i were you
[16:03] <holstein> i would sort out what kernel you need
[16:03] <holstein> so, if you break something
[16:03] <holstein> you have the final step of reinstalling
[16:03] <Strayfolk> true
[16:03] <holstein> *cant hurt
[16:03] <Strayfolk> need to back up everything first
[16:04] <Strayfolk> about repos. if I were to use KX's repos, would it be recommended to remove any other PPAs, then reinstall the kernels & all
[16:06] <Strayfolk> ...like abogani, tangostudio, etc.
[16:07] <Strayfolk> holstein, you're using 11.04 right? which kernel are you using?
[16:08] <Strayfolk> -realtime?
[16:08] <Strayfolk> and nvidia?
[16:08] <Strayfolk> and wifi?
[16:10] <Strayfolk> I'm off practicing, leaving idle
[16:10] <Strayfolk> bye!
[16:17] <holstein> Strayfolk: im using 10.04 on my production machine
[16:17] <holstein> with the -realtime kernel from falk/abogani
[16:17] <holstein> and nvidia
[16:18] <holstein> it doesnt have wifi
[16:18] <holstein> the 11.04 testing install i have is ATI
[16:18] <holstein> and i have issues with the -realtime kernel and the broadcom wifi
[16:47] <holstein> Strayfolk: however, everywhere i have tried the -lowlatency kernel
[16:47] <holstein> hardware support seems great
[16:48] <holstein> -generic support with lower latency capabilities
[20:07] <Strayfolk> ok, so now I'm running the 2.6.38-8-lowlatency. but now my old firewire stack won't load
[20:07] <Strayfolk> old 1394 stack present.... False
[20:07] <Strayfolk>   old 1394 stack loaded..... False
[20:07] <Strayfolk>   old 1394 stack active..... False
[20:11] <holstein> Strayfolk: right
[20:11] <holstein> i dont see how that could be related
[20:11] <holstein> but, it could b
[20:12] <holstein> however, i dont need the old stack
[20:12] <holstein> so, im not sure whats up with that and the new kernels
[20:12] <holstein> nor, do a really have a decent way of testing for that
[20:12] <Strayfolk> I forgot to update the rest of the packages... gonna try that first
[20:12] <holstein> yeah, thats a good bet
[20:15] <Strayfolk> I deblacklisted the new firewire stack just quickly and see that it's on other IRQs than the ohci1394
[20:15] <Strayfolk> not sharing irqs with usb and gfx
[20:16] <Strayfolk> could that be a reason to use the new stack
[20:45] <Strayfolk> I did the updates, but I had to use the new stack apparently because of the kernel
[20:45] <Strayfolk> so now jack is running, but 0 of my programs talks to jack nor ladish
[20:55] <Strayfolk> after a 2nd reboot it works normally with the new stack, but produces xruns like never before
[20:55] <holstein> Strayfolk: plausible
[20:55] <holstein> that the new stack is not right for your gear
[20:56] <Strayfolk> ok, so I'm out of luck. the best solution for me is to use an old RT kernel
[20:57] <holstein> Strayfolk: ?
[20:57] <holstein> i mean, im running 10.04
[20:57] <holstein> with my firewire device
[20:57] <holstein> for us
[20:57] <holstein> i would say, you should run 10.04
[20:57] <holstein> and maintain a testing partition
[20:58] <holstein> so we can see whats going on
[20:58] <Strayfolk> I'm running 10.04 with the 2.6.38-8-lowlatency
[20:58] <Strayfolk> now
[20:58] <holstein> and make sure you have good support in 12.04
[20:58] <holstein> Strayfolk: yeah?
[20:58] <holstein> what new stack then?
[20:58] <Strayfolk> as you told me
[20:58] <holstein> you dont have JACK2 right?
[20:58] <holstein> do you have falks ppa?
[20:58] <Strayfolk> ya
[20:58] <Strayfolk> I should have jack1?
[21:00] <holstein> Strayfolk: i cant say
[21:00] <holstein> for your particular gear
[21:00] <holstein> im just throwing out options
[21:00] <holstein> and trying to figure out whats up with your rig
[21:00] <Strayfolk> yah, it's nice of you, I appreciate
[21:00] <Strayfolk> Using: JACK 1.9.7
[21:01] <holstein> Strayfolk: :)
[21:01] <holstein> Strayfolk: you could try adding falks PPAs
[21:01] <holstein> thats what i have in 10.04
[21:01] <Strayfolk> falks and kx studio?
[21:02] <Strayfolk> or are they the same
[21:02] <holstein> hmmm
[21:02] <holstein> falk develops KXstudio
[21:02] <holstein> the PPA's are the packages for KX
[21:02] <holstein> that we can use in ubuntu
[21:02] <holstein> since KX is bases on ubuntu 10.04
[21:02] <holstein> we add the PPA
[21:03] <holstein> and take advantage of the newer packages
[21:03] <Strayfolk> I'm with you
[21:03] <holstein> and as long as you dont mind waiting
[21:03] <holstein> and are comfortable running purge-ppa
[21:03] <holstein> then, it literally cant hurt
[21:04] <Strayfolk> I appear to have ppa:falk-t-lucid
[21:04] <Strayfolk> already
[21:04] <holstein> there are some newer ones now
[21:04] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories
[21:04] <holstein> that one is depricated
[21:05] <Strayfolk> from here I added the ppa and the kernel
[21:05] <Strayfolk> what are you suggesting?
[21:07] <Strayfolk> I use the jack2 1.9.7 from that page
[21:08] <Strayfolk> should I try this:
[21:08] <Strayfolk> The JACK1 PPA forces the installation of JACK1 over the default JACK2 used in KXStudio.
[21:08] <Strayfolk> This PPA depends on 'Main'.
[21:08] <Strayfolk> Link - https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/jack1 | ppa:kxstudio-team/jack1
[21:12] <holstein> Strayfolk: i have all of those PPAs
[21:13] <holstein> not the games and audio*
[21:13] <holstein> just the important
[21:13] <holstein> ones
[21:13] <Strayfolk> the jack1 too?
[21:13] <holstein> no
[21:13] <holstein> i have jack2
[21:13] <holstein> BUT
[21:13] <holstein> thats a good option for you
[21:13] <holstein> if you try jack2
[21:13] <holstein> and its not happenin
[21:14] <Strayfolk> the only package in that ppa is called dummy and the description is TODO
[21:16] <holstein> Strayfolk: probably on the way then :)
[21:17] <holstein> as long as you know how to purge
[21:17] <holstein> just try them
[21:17] <holstein> i cant say what will work
[21:17] <holstein> you'll just have to fiddle with the config and your hardware
[23:26] <dave2012> does anyone know the best synth+keyboard programs?
[23:26] <dave2012> Swami doesnt run for me :(