[00:00] how can I manually move items in the taskbar? [00:00] open windows that is [00:03] no idea, I don't use the taskbar [00:03] perhaps you can't [00:05] sigh [00:05] what do you use, a dock? [00:06] no, I just have lots of workspaces and a large workspace switcher [00:06] and when I need to find a window by name, I middle-click on the desktop [00:06] I see [00:07] I'll definitely use a taskbar [00:07] we're contemplating ubuntu with xfce [00:07] in replacement of windows at work [00:07] I wouldn't want to drop the taskbar. they'd crap themselves :P [00:07] if it's for users others than you, perhaps you shouldn't customize it too much [00:08] it adds a lot of work later on [00:08] I'm moving the bar to the bottom and making it a bit larger in size [00:08] and adding some quick launch icons [00:08] that's about it [00:08] it's for a school district [00:08] I work in IT at one [00:08] we did at at our university, and then the students came and complained that they installed ubuntu at home but it didn't look like the ones in the labs [00:09] it's much better if they can just install it and have it look the same [00:09] I'm not worried about that. It's not like I'd be doing any massive changes. [00:09] even if it's different than windows [00:09] btw, have you seen lubuntu? [00:09] yes [00:10] I don't feel as though it's mature enough to deploy to 1,500 systems :P [00:10] that I have to support [00:10] Ubuntu was a sure-fire hit, but Unity and GNome Shell are too new to deploy as well [00:10] XFCE is rock solid and simple. [00:10] well, I did have some minor hiccups in Natty [00:10] where at? [00:12] making chromium the default browser, long delay in the 'create document' menu, renamed items in the apps menu that I had to remove again [00:12] I had the same issue with chromium [00:12] but it might be fixed [00:12] as I just set chromium to be my default on this laptop [00:12] oh, and thunar is ignoring my icon theme and displaying folder icons from the gnome icon theme [00:12] and I'm on 11.04 with ubuntu and xfce [00:12] roasted_: I found how to change it [00:12] anybody have problems to play video in 11.04 ??? not are codecs restart X whent play video [00:12] ???? [00:12] roasted_: you have to edit /usr/share/defaults.list [00:13] guys, compiz ccsm and awn r gonna work ok in 11.04, right? i'm gonna install now [00:13] !r | einseeinai [00:13] !u | einseeinai [00:13] einseeinai: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [00:14] duende: works fine, I had to install xubuntu-restricted-extras though [00:14] einseeinai: they will work if your graphics card supports them [00:14] einseeinai: but you won't have much left from xubuntu [00:15] TheSheep, thanks, i mean won't they conflict with xfce native compositing? [00:16] I too but the problem continue, and tvtime also restart X when I clic it [00:16] einseeinai: as soon as you run compiz, there is no xfce native compositing [00:16] einseeinai: because compiz replaces xfwm [00:16] duende: anything relevant in your ~/.xsessionerrors file? [00:18] yes there are much things :-/ [00:18] TheSheep, thx a lot -) *gone to install* [01:09] on the install process, does it do anything terribly long and UI blocking during the "Installing system" step? [01:09] mine has been there for some time and i clicked the expand button to show the console output and it froze the UI [01:11] not really, it depends on your system tho [01:12] it's a p3-650 w/ 512mb memory [01:12] fairly old, but i heard it'd still work fine [01:13] indeed it should [01:20] * KM0201 says "Lubuntu for the win!" :0 [01:51] hello, guys, how could i switch off launcher panel? [01:53] Do you mean the suto-hiding panel at the bottom of the screen? [01:54] yup, exactly [01:56] Right mouse-click on the top panel> Panel> Panel Preferences...Select Panel 2 in the top (panel 1 shows), then click on the "slashed circle" This DELETES the panel and you cannot get it back, so be sure this is what you want to do. [01:58] brilliant, thanks a lot :-) [01:58] np [02:06] how do I install xfce themes? Some I install work, some don't. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. [02:06] I just drop them in .themes [02:09] guys, is there no ubuntu one app in xubuntu? [02:10] xubuntu405: in the software center [02:11] how do I install new window managers? [02:13] drc, thanks again, got one more question - i tried ubuntu 11.04 in live cd mode and there my bluetooth was functioning. here, in xubuntu - it's not. any way to fix it? [02:14] xubuntu405: Not idea...I do not use bluetooth. [02:14] roasted_ open up synaptic, type name of needed wm, there must be metapackage, which depends on all apps of the wm. it's called kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, etc. [02:14] xubuntu405, uh... [02:14] I meant like... a theme [02:14] the border of the windows with a theme [02:15] roasted_, ah. well, just search it in software center or xfce-looks [02:15] I am [02:15] but [02:15] half of the ones I install wont work [02:16] drc, ok. thanks anyway. -) [02:18] roasted_: Things are slow here tonight, you might ask in #xfce also (I have idea on how xfce treats Themes/Appearence and Window Managers except that its way different than GNOME, so I can't help) [02:21] drc, is it possible to make "home", "trash" not shown on desktop? [02:22] xubuntu405: Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Desktop>Icons [02:23] O:-) thx. [02:32] finally, restarted the install and it got through it that time. no changes in hardware either [02:33] hi Elf [02:34] now i have a console screen, last thing is "Stopping userspace bootsplash [OK]" followed by a blank line with an OK on the far right [02:35] automatic crash report generation failed to start a few lines prior [02:35] drc, is it ok to install gnome apps like gedit? won't it brake anything? [02:36] xubuntu405: It depends on the dependecies that the app has, but generally it's not a problem. [02:37] drc, cool! i just wanted to install gedit and nautilus, cause i'm used to them )) [02:37] xubuntu405: In fact, I delete most apps (mousepad, parole, gmusicbrowser, etc) and replace them (gedit, rhythmbox, vlc, etc). [02:37] xubuntu405: Nautilus is one that I have heard of problems with [02:37] You might want to to research that one (because it controls the desktop) [02:38] drc, thanks for warning. i also had a strange feeling that nautilus might be a prob. [02:39] btw, 11.04's ubuntu one is really awesome [02:46] well, the GUI failed to launch, but ctrl+alt+f1 kicked me to console [02:46] so at least i can run stuff [02:53] did a clean install of xubuntu 11.05 and Additional Drivers doesn't see my lappy's Broadcom wireless adapter...can someone point me to where I can install this? THX [02:57] !broadcom | f1assistance1 [02:57] f1assistance1: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [03:00] actually it's a BCM94318MPG [03:10] i get "error allocating scanout buffer" when starting xfce... [03:10] tnt2 on a p3 650 [03:12] i'm having trouble automounting stuff, can anyone help me troubleshoot this? [03:14] oh it works suddenly === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [04:39] guys, i'm trying to put my startupconky.sh into startup apps in settings manager, but button "ok" is not pushable. any ideas? [04:52] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 xubuntu405 [04:53] bazhang, thanks [04:54] np [04:55] mm, well, it's not what i was looking for. [04:56] i mean u just can't add startup script to autostart in xfce. [04:59] you dont need to autostart it [04:59] just follow that guide to get conky working [04:59] ok [05:03] bazhang, thanks again. the problem was i didn't set title. only command. [05:16] np [05:55] can anyone here help.? The menu bar on the top of each window is missing (file, edit, etc...) and i have no idea how it happened of how to fix it. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:48] guys, how do i install ttf fonts in xubuntu? [13:20] I have problem bluetooth in xubuntu [13:20] it don't work [13:28] what is the error? [13:31] find new device [13:32] Searching for devices a longtime [13:36] In mobile open bluetooth [13:52] Aee: if you type 'dmesg | tail' in terminal, does it show anything relevant? [13:54] i trying [13:59] see to http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3847857/bluetooth1.png [14:00] that looks ok [14:00] but search new device a longtime [14:01] how about 'tail .xsessionerrors'? [14:03] sorry, that's .xsession-errors [14:03] um [14:04] howto repair it? [14:04] I don't know what is wrong with it, so I can't tell how to repair. [14:06] before! nothing bluetooth in xubuntu 11.04 [14:07] I just install bluetooth [14:08] and try search new device === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [14:15] the build of the nvidia drivers on this p3 650 is *still* ongoing.. started it about 8 hours ago [14:15] looks like it is building the ENTIRE kernel [14:18] EgotisticalElf: why are you building your own drivers? just install the ones provided from the repositories [14:18] EgotisticalElf: they are already build and tested [14:19] because the repo doesn't contain a driver for a TNT2 [14:20] and the drivers from nvidia don't contain a pre-compiled one for xubuntu 11 [14:22] 71.86.14 is the one i need [14:46] Hi. I've just installed Xubuntu on my laptop. My mouse is bluetooth-ish. How do i make use of it? [15:04] notsure bluetooth [15:04] in xubuntu nothing bluetooth setting [15:05] what do i need to do in 11.04 software sources to get xubuntu to show? [15:05] Where is the "Connect to server" dialog like in Ubuntu ? [15:08] Sterist: what do you mean? [15:10] sysi i search in the software center for the xubuntu environment and it's not there like in previous versions [15:15] Sterist: it should be, you have clean installation of 11.04? [15:16] yes [15:17] what if you put 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' to terminal [15:18] havent installed any updates yet. i'm getting there [15:18] just got done customizing swap [15:18] that doesn's install updates [15:18] *doesn't [15:18] just package lists [15:18] sudo apt-get update updates [15:19] ..doesnt it? lol [15:19] it doesn't install anything [15:20] apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade install updates [15:20] well that's upGrade, we were talking about upDate lol [15:21] i'll give it a shot [15:24] it's workin :) [15:36] omg almost a month later n the servers are STILL dead slow :( [16:51] guys, how do i get layout indicator and key shortcut to switch? [16:57] yo. What file is responsible for the white border around active and inactive windows? It puts about a 3px top on windows that screws with dark themes. [17:02] Need help, i'm using ubuntu on a usb stick and i restart and now there's a windows requesting for authentication...(says: automatic logon / other) i have not set anypassword... in fact the only change i made was install xchat, chromiun, vlc and rar that was all... can someone help me out [17:07] doyle are you using one of the preset appearance styles? [17:13] genshooter: it's there with any theme, but doesn't mess up the look of the defauls [17:13] defaults8 [17:14] doyle: im thinking its in the Settings Editor somewhere, I'm looking for it myself no luck so far [17:17] genshooter: I've been poking around /usr/share/themes/Default/xfwm4 but haven't found it there... [17:23] doyle: the theme im using that border is dark blue on a focused window, black on a non-focued windows - if were talking about the same border - you check those out? [17:24] Doyle: white border around windows? I can't see such a thing [17:24] Doyle: perhaps a screenshot would help? [17:24] TheSheep: sure, just a sec [17:27] https://picasaweb.google.com/108943949294985591385/Tmp?authkey=Gv1sRgCNSZsuqS4dbgcA#5606980301532009618 [17:29] Thats the xfce-dusk theme, but the white top and 1px border around the sides and bottom is visable on any darker theme. [17:29] my border is blue when i select that theme, which tells me that the border can be configured somewhere [17:31] I've messed with themes individual index.theme files, as well as some xpm settings, but I might have missed something. I' haven't work with themes much in the past. They usually just work. [17:36] Doyle: perhaps you want to change the window manager theme [17:40] hmmm, is that a gtk2 thing? [17:40] Doyle: no, looks like it's an xfwm4 thing [17:42] xfwm4 themes. gotcha. I'll give it a shot [17:55] Ahhhh, Window Manager! For shame... seperating window "styles" from themes. [17:56] sometimes you want to keep the same window style that the theme itself uses, but i saw a few window styles with thinner (non-existent) borders [17:57] kde1 [17:59] Platinum is nice and dark [18:01] can you find the config files referred to by these different styles? [18:01] maybe you can tweak one even further in a config file somewhere [18:06] yea, shouldn't be too hard now that I know they're "window styles" [18:13] freenode uses ssl? [18:15] freenode offers possibility to connect using ssl [18:17] i'm trying to use another client and i entered chat.freenode.net as server but it won't connect. is the address wrong? === Rodensky is now known as Rodensky88 [18:22] yey [18:22] i got it :) [18:49] just installed Xubuntu 11.04 ... my favorite OS get even better! I'm in love with it [18:49] I was going to install it on my old PC but the HDD died D: [19:10] thanks for a great xubuntu 11.04! everything works great except for my wireless lan :( [19:11] (which worked great in xubuntu 10.10 :( [19:30] ive installed xubuntu11.04 from usb without enabling the "install updates & 3rd party software" during initial install--now after install has completed & i do the update all the translation packages "fail"----my question is --is this anything to be concerned with [19:31] mmm [19:31] thats weird [19:31] it shouldn't be happening [19:31] do your internet works ok? what kind of "fail" you have? [19:32] and with what you're updating [19:33] hey Sysi! :3 sup? [19:33] internet is fine---within the update window that shows progress of update it shows failure when it normally displays the size of the package [19:33] Soupermanito: ice-hockey! [19:33] ive done this 4 times this week with same result [19:34] do you updated the repositories before installing? [19:34] updating thru update manager [19:34] yes [19:34] you could try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in terminal [19:34] ill try that [19:35] thnks [19:46] in ubuntu, there was an app "about me" where u could assign picture, is there smth like that in xubuntu? [19:48] einseenai, users-admin [19:50] Soupermanito, no, it's impossible to set picture there [19:51] you can do it manually some way.. place picture with right name to your home folder and it should work [19:51] though i'm not sure with new gdm, google [19:52] i'm looking for a particular pic, which could be choosen from that "about me" menu entry program === xGrind is now known as [TIMAO]xGrind [20:21] does xubuntu have all that indicator stuff that unity/gnome does? [20:29] xfce4-taskmanager? [20:29] or you mean screenlets? [21:26] is this the proper xubuntu tech support IRC Channel? [21:32] loving the xfce desktop btw [21:33] just wish it was more customizable [21:33] can anyone help on how to customize the menu [21:34] http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu [21:34] thanks [21:35] You won't like it :) [21:43] Installing Xubuntu right now ;) <3 === [TIMAO]xGrind is now known as xGrind [22:25] guys, what is command for xfce terminal? [22:26] xfce4-terminal [22:27] lol [22:29] thanks [23:44] hi, I was told that older versions of xubuntu were not "pure" xfce, that they were running xfce on top of "something", does anyone have any idea what is this about? [23:46] xubuntu uses a different layout of panels and panel stuff than default xfce [23:46] don't know what they mean about xfce running on top of "something" though [23:47] xubuntu is also a full OS, which includes a variety of default applications, xfce is just the desktop environment [23:48] You can choose a at login...I know it's different than the Xubuntu session, but how it is, I don't know. [23:48] and you can always change the layout of panels and what you run in your panels to make it look like regular xfce, I do :)