| apachelogger | saLOUt: rpm specs are vastly different from debian package sources, you might just as well start from scratch :) | 00:15 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | actually you might want to try the hot new http://pkgme.net | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | maybe it can spit out something useful without much effort ^^ | 00:16 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: I never used any xUbuntu. I hoped that someone volunteers to help me. Maybe tomorrow.... good night | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: you should write a mail to kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com :) | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | nite | 00:23 |
| maco | saLOUt: there's a packaging help channel | 00:23 |
| maco | #ubuntu-packaging | 00:23 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: do i have to subscrip to the ML first? | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: don't think so | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: if you do ... send it to apachelogger@ubuntu.com and I can fwd | 00:24 |
| saLOUt | thx | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | hm | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | due to cmake that should be little effort | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | do we have any minions around to do that? | 00:27 |
| * apachelogger thinks DarkwingDuck was supposed to get us development minions | 00:27 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: whatever happend to our indian minions? | 00:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: I put ot the call. | 01:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | *out | 01:03 |
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| DarkwingDuck | kujio,nh78 | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | ] | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | 09pololkb | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | 152b57 | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | 11122v4455677778888890-= | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | 02:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | lll; | 02:40 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: ?? | 02:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | \\\\\Sorry, | 02:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | When kids attack my computer it == bad | 02:41 |
| * c2tarun :) | 02:42 | |
| * DarkwingDuck snickers | 02:42 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You do have to be subscribed to post to kubuntu-devel. | 03:04 |
| * DarkwingDuck chuckles | 03:05 | |
| linuxtech | DarkwindDuck: I saw your note kubuntu-users list saying " I am looking for someone to help me with a review and fix project with Kubuntu 10.04 LTS." That seems very general, can you be more specific on what kind of help you want? | 03:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | linuxtech: I am looking for someone to help me review the documentation for 10.04 to ensure it is correct and if it isnt to file a bug or write a patch for us. | 03:53 |
| linuxtech | OK, but doesn't it make more sense to focus on the current release since it is more likely to be more relevant to future versions of Kubuntu? | 03:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | linuxtech: :) Yes, but the LTS has not been reviewed and as we are supporting it still that is good. | 03:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | I've got most of the Natty docs reviewed. | 03:58 |
| linuxtech | In any case I am not running 10.04 Kubuntu, I still have a couple of 10.04 mythbuntu and Ubuntu machine I admin, but I am in the process of migrating the others to natty now. | 03:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | Ahhh, linuxtech if you want to help reviewing the docs for Natty I could use a second set of eyes | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | Alt+F2 help | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | click on Kubuntu Documentation and start going through to ensure that the info is correct. | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | If you see something that is not right file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+filebug | 04:01 |
| linuxtech | I am probably not the best person for that job, but if I run across anything I will file a bug report. Right now I should file a doc bug on apt and proxies... | 04:01 |
| linuxtech | Thanks for all your work on Kubuntu and have a good night! | 04:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | Thanks linuxtech | 04:03 |
| === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun | ||
| jussi | does the KC have an email address? | 06:46 |
| valorie | one would think so | 06:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm sure they do... just don't know | 06:47 |
| valorie | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council says jr@kubuntu.org | 06:48 |
| valorie | that's not right | 06:48 |
| valorie | JR should change that | 06:49 |
| Tm_T | uh, Dallas? | 06:49 |
| jussi | Tm_T: ? | 06:49 |
| Tm_T | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._Ewing | 06:50 |
| valorie | lol | 06:50 |
| valorie | in this case, our illustrious jonathan riddell | 06:50 |
| jussi | oh lol | 06:50 |
| Tm_T | valorie: did know, just that "JR" reminds me of Dallas every time | 06:50 |
| jussi | Tm_T: btw, you may be interested, if you can find the cash, I have several discount vouchers for freescale imx53 boards - they are only 99$ | 06:51 |
| Tm_T | jussi: hmmm, specs? | 06:52 |
| Tm_T | ah, found some (: | 06:54 |
| Tm_T | jussi: very interesting, I will try to sort something out, thanks (: | 06:57 |
| jussi | Tm_T: if you need a voucher number, jsut ping me :) | 07:13 |
| jussi | that goes for anyone else here also! This is a great platform to play with plasma mobile/active :D | 07:14 |
| Tm_T | jussi: see PM | 07:18 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| QuintasanDroid | apachelogger: ping | 08:51 |
| nigelb | hey QuintasanDroid | 08:52 |
| QuintasanDroid | nigelb: sup | 08:55 |
| valorie | I heard both of your voices! | 08:56 |
| valorie | not quite done listening to all my missed sessions | 08:56 |
| valorie | :-) | 08:56 |
| QuintasanDroid | valorie: do I really sound so strange? :O | 08:56 |
| valorie | no, but it makes you more real | 08:57 |
| valorie | it delights me to hear the team's voices | 08:58 |
| nigelb | Yeah, I know that one. I remember how I put voice to nickname at my first UDS | 08:58 |
| valorie | even though I couldn't go | 08:58 |
| valorie | like, you have a voice on IRC | 08:58 |
| QuintasanDroid | :D | 08:58 |
| valorie | but no sound to go with it | 08:58 |
| valorie | until I know it from the streams | 08:59 |
| valorie | :-) | 08:59 |
| jussi | QuintasanDroid: you are strange :P | 08:59 |
| nigelb | the most eyeopening people at uds were apachelogger and persia | 09:01 |
| nigelb | Mainly because they were in black throughout | 09:01 |
| QuintasanDroid | jussi: :P | 09:02 |
| valorie | apachelogger in black? | 09:02 |
| valorie | I need photos! | 09:03 |
| valorie | persia is great | 09:03 |
| nigelb | valorie: I think its already on my facebook album | 09:03 |
| QuintasanDroid | yup, Harald and Emmet looked so classy :P | 09:03 |
| valorie | not sure if we are fb buddies | 09:03 |
| * valorie goes to look | 09:03 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Hey guys | 09:04 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: o/ | 09:04 |
| QuintasanDroid | DarkwingDuck: o/ | 09:04 |
| * DarkwingDuck sighs | 09:04 | |
| DarkwingDuck | another night of insomnia | 09:04 |
| valorie | OMG you have a 'stache! | 09:04 |
| QuintasanDroid | sup? | 09:04 |
| jussi | Whats up Dave? | 09:04 |
| valorie | send a friend request | 09:04 |
| DarkwingDuck | Not much. can't sleep... Was thinking about learning packaging | 09:05 |
| QuintasanDroid | no, lol | 09:05 |
| QuintasanDroid | learn programming | 09:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | LOL | 09:05 |
| jussi | QuintasanDroid: a new minion for you!! | 09:05 |
| jussi | he can package python-sipsimple! | 09:06 |
| jussi | :D | 09:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | Then i would become a minion... I love leading my own minions. | 09:06 |
| QuintasanDroid | we need someone to finish printer applet port to cpp | 09:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | XD | 09:07 |
| * QuintasanDroid picked up C once again | 09:07 | |
| QuintasanDroid | float is funny :P | 09:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | I was thinking about programming... | 09:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | But, I figured packaging would be more usefull to me right now. | 09:08 |
| QuintasanDroid | DarkwingDuck: I always welcome new minions | 09:08 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: seriously, you could work on blink - QuintasanDroid could be your minion master | 09:08 |
| QuintasanDroid | :P | 09:08 |
| nigelb | valorie: accepted :) | 09:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | does QuintasanDroid want to teach me programming... that's the key | 09:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | :P | 09:09 |
| QuintasanDroid | nigelb, valorie: Michał Zając on Facebook | 09:09 |
| nigelb | valorie: the classy picture of emmet and harald is there | 09:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | www.facebook.com/dwonderly | 09:09 |
| QuintasanDroid | DarkwingDuck: packaging minions~ :) | 09:11 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: QuintasanDroid can teach you packaging :=) | 09:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | See now, I'll take that. | 09:12 |
| QuintasanDroid | DarkwingDuck: req on fb sent :) | 09:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | QuintasanDroid: added | 09:15 |
| jussi | well its certainly been a socialm morning for some of you :D | 09:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | hehehe | 09:18 |
| QuintasanDroid | lol | 09:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | So, what ya say... wanna teach someone packaging? :P | 09:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | dammit. | 09:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | I don't think my dekstop/server likes natty | 09:20 |
| QuintasanDroid | DarkwingDuck: well, I am in school now so it could be pretty hard now | 09:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | QuintasanDroid: XD It's cool. I'm going to be crashign soon anyway. | 09:24 |
| jussi | !packaging | 09:27 |
| ubottu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 09:27 |
| QuintasanDroid | jussi: TBH it is outdated, dholbach and co. is working on new guide | 09:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | I knew it was... Hence looking for a mentor in packaging. One iirc there are a few added things for the kubuntu side. | 09:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | s/one/and | 09:29 |
| jussi | QuintasanDroid: true, but I like making things hard for you : P :P | 09:30 |
| QuintasanDroid | what we basically did is switching to dh7 which makes short rules work in 90% of time | 09:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | dh7 would be debhelper7? | 09:30 |
| QuintasanDroid | yes | 09:31 |
| * DarkwingDuck nods | 09:31 | |
| QuintasanDroid | and dh8 was introduced some time ago | 09:31 |
| * DarkwingDuck goes to find documentation for debhelper | 09:31 | |
| DarkwingDuck | is there a reason dh8 isn't used? | 09:31 |
| QuintasanDroid | so instead dh --with kde @ you get dh @ --with kde AFAIC | 09:31 |
| QuintasanDroid | what I wrote above | 09:31 |
| jussi | QuintasanDroid: in all seriousness, perhaps blink/ associated stuff is a good place for him to start? | 09:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh | 09:32 |
| QuintasanDroid | just switch the order and u get dh8 | 09:32 |
| QuintasanDroid | jussi: Don't think so. It has some obscure "features" which I don't want him to see right now :P | 09:33 |
| jussi | hehe | 09:33 |
| QuintasanDroid | like handling darcs magic | 09:33 |
| QuintasanDroid | or rules using cdbs :/ | 09:33 |
| QuintasanDroid | cdbs makes me go brrrrrr | 09:34 |
| tsimpson | it's still easier that writing it all by hand every time you want to package something, well it sometimes is easier | 09:36 |
| valorie | nice photos, nigelb | 09:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | okay... sleepy time | 09:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | Night guys | 10:00 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | morning | 10:02 |
| QuintasanDroid | yofel: sup | 10:02 |
| QuintasanDroid | doh | 10:03 |
| yofel | I'm sleepy and wondering if I should just skip the afternoon classes... | 10:08 |
| QuintasanDroid | skip them | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: pong | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: woohoo, vir made kde_gc master of #phonon he says, can you please make me supreme operator or whatever one might become in order to change topics ^^ | 10:18 |
| seaLne | apachelogger: wouldn't it be simpler to remove the topic restriction like most channels? | 10:19 |
| tsimpson | one doesn't need to be an operator or remove topic protection in order to be able to set a channel topic | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: probably | 10:20 |
| tsimpson | freenode has these "flags", one of which lets you command ChanServ to change the topic for you | 10:20 |
| seaLne | which would still require explicit permission | 10:20 |
| tsimpson | yeah, but only permission to change topic rather than being an operator, and will stop <random troll> from messing with the topic | 10:21 |
| seaLne | sure but generally thats not needed | 10:21 |
| tsimpson | depends on how "large" the channel is, and how discoverable | 10:22 |
| tsimpson | if it's a small or not well-known by joe-blogs, then removing topic protection is probably fine | 10:23 |
| seaLne | like this channel? | 10:23 |
| tsimpson | yep, random people don't really find this channel easily | 10:25 |
| valorie | we should probably have a couple more ops, though | 10:27 |
| valorie | since riddell won't be hanging out with us as much | 10:28 |
| seaLne | there seem to be quite a few | 10:28 |
| valorie | good | 10:32 |
| valorie | 'cause I don't really want that work | 10:32 |
| valorie | :-) | 10:33 |
| * apachelogger giggles cause of the photo of persia and him | 10:35 | |
| nigelb | heh | 10:42 |
| nigelb | my cause of giggle is the picture of stuart | 10:43 |
| valorie | which one? I don't know a stuart | 10:43 |
| nigelb | stuart is on the ubuntuone team, so I'm not sure if you'd know him | 10:46 |
| nigelb | He's on a picture in a black suit and wearing a hat | 10:46 |
| * QuintasanDroid wants ops in here | 10:47 | |
| nigelb | QuintasanDroid: asking for ops is the easy way to not get ops ;) | 10:54 |
| QuintasanDroid | ha :D | 10:55 |
| valorie | otoh, the Ubuntu IRC team is looking for more ops | 10:55 |
| valorie | according to their UDS session | 10:56 |
| valorie | Ubuntu Members wanted | 10:56 |
| valorie | it's quite a bit of work | 10:57 |
| QuintasanDroid | I could use OP rights sometimes, like changing topic | 10:57 |
| valorie | ugh, 3am | 10:57 |
| valorie | niters all | 10:57 |
| QuintasanDroid | noon here | 10:57 |
| QuintasanDroid | gn valorie | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmmmmm | 10:59 |
| QuintasanDroid | sup? | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | valorie: I am pretty sure you met stuart, red haired, rather husky voice, very intense laugh | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: got a question for you | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: http://paste.kde.org/~phonon/71089/ | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | what is wrong with this code? :P | 11:02 |
| QuintasanDroid | apachelogger: dunno what functions in loop do | 11:03 |
| QuintasanDroid | but it should me i++ IMO instead of ++i | 11:04 |
| QuintasanDroid | in the for loop initialization | 11:04 |
| * QuintasanDroid notes his understanding of code is poor | 11:04 | |
| apachelogger | ++i is less asm code in various cases, so it is to be preferred over i++ | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: baiscally what the function is supposed to do is destruct an trackdescriptionlist | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | this list holds pointers to trackdescriptor objects | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | those get first releaes and then removed from the list | 11:05 |
| * apachelogger notes that the issue is very subtle | 11:05 | |
| debfx | I'm sure gcc would optimize i++ to ++i in this case :) | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | debfx: there are systems without gcc | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | plus! | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | I'd not be so sure gcc does it on every architecture | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | that is not the problem anyway | 11:08 |
| QuintasanDroid | apachelogger: no idea | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | the code is completely wrong :D | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | maybe debfx finds out why | 11:08 |
| * yofel doesn't even get what the code trying to do | 11:09 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: release objects and cleanup a list | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: when you manage to find issues like that you can become maintainer of the phonon vlc backend :) | 11:09 |
| QuintasanDroid | I would blindly shoot that it will remove len-th element while it should remove len-1-th element | 11:09 |
| yofel | erm, and why do you call release() one time and the other time RemoveAt() ? | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: not all that wrong | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | yofel: cause they are doing different things | 11:10 |
| yofel | k | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | release() is like a c-type dtor | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | release(ptr) ~= free(ptr) | 11:10 |
| QuintasanDroid | hmmmm | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | except release will likely also do derefcounting and whatnot | 11:11 |
| yofel | ah | 11:11 |
| QuintasanDroid | can you paste the release(something inside) line | 11:11 |
| * QuintasanDroid is tired of reopening the same page | 11:11 | |
| yofel | release(at(i)); | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/~phonon/71095/ | 11:12 |
| * apachelogger giggles | 11:13 | |
| apachelogger | any guesses? | 11:13 |
| QuintasanDroid | at() provides a pointer to a variable I vguess then | 11:13 |
| QuintasanDroid | well removeAt is doing something wrong probably | 11:14 |
| QuintasanDroid | no idea what it exactly does though | 11:14 |
| QuintasanDroid | also the for loop is suspicious for deleting len-th element | 11:14 |
| * yofel still thinks it should either be i++, or ++1 with <= len | 11:15 | |
| tsimpson | removeAt() would just remove the item from a list, no? | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: yes | 11:15 |
| yofel | since i don't know the indizes though I can't say more | 11:15 |
| debfx | does removeAt() shift the indices? | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | yes it does ^^ | 11:16 |
| yofel | ... | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | obviously enough, if you remove the 1st item in a list the former 2nd item will become the new 1st and so on | 11:17 |
| yofel | well, then why are you using i in the remove calls :P | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | seems we have found the issue :P | 11:18 |
| debfx | what's the point of removing things from a list that's going to be destroyed anyway? | 11:18 |
| tsimpson | foreach(...) release(...); clear(); | 11:18 |
| QuintasanDroid | apachelogger: lol horrible code indeed | 11:19 |
| * QuintasanDroid started learning C the proper way | 11:19 | |
| QuintasanDroid | ie. commenting every thing that might not be understandable after one day | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: like | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | while (--len >= 0) { | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:21 |
| QuintasanDroid | well | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: I do not think you want to use foreach in a dtor | 11:23 |
| QuintasanDroid | if you take a second to figure out the order of stuff its sensible | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | that is one place where you really do not want the foreach overhead | 11:23 |
| QuintasanDroid | s/sensible/understandable | 11:23 |
| tsimpson | I was just being lazy, hence foreach | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: the while I pasted or the code sample? | 11:23 |
| QuintasanDroid | code sample | 11:23 |
| QuintasanDroid | blargh | 11:24 |
| QuintasanDroid | while ( ) magic | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | oh yeah, well | 11:24 |
| * apachelogger finds that while more horrible from a readability POV actually | 11:24 | |
| QuintasanDroid | this while() would be equivalent to that for loop but totally less readable | 11:25 |
| tsimpson | while(!isEmpty()) | 11:25 |
| QuintasanDroid | FFFFFFUUUUUU- | 11:25 |
| tsimpson | :) | 11:25 |
| QuintasanDroid | isempty() returns 0 if the thing is empty? | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: also vastly more expensive | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | isempty accesses both front end end for every call | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | something like return list.begin == list.end | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: it returns true | 11:27 |
| tsimpson | really, I would have thought it would be better than that | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | incidentially that is 0 in C | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: from a readability POV it is | 11:27 |
| QuintasanDroid | I hate using while(!something) | 11:27 |
| tsimpson | I mean isEmpty(), thought it was more efficient that that | 11:27 |
| QuintasanDroid | it's horrible | 11:27 |
| tsimpson | why is it horrible? | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: no, you only need to get len once | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | that is one constant time vs. 2*n times constant time | 11:28 |
| QuintasanDroid | because it is hard to read | 11:28 |
| tsimpson | apachelogger: I guess in a d-tor you can be more presumptuous | 11:28 |
| QuintasanDroid | after some time | 11:29 |
| QuintasanDroid | or if you have no idea what the code does | 11:29 |
| tsimpson | less readable than "if(x) {} else { ... }" ;) | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: the thing is, especially with container dtors and ctors I'd suggest to be as efficient as possible while not inflicting unreadability or perhaps unstable code | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | since dtoring of containers is always blocking the app, and containers can contain rather a lot of code | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | eh | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | s/code/items | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | so 90% of the time I'd go for a manual counting approach than use a more convenient builtin function | 11:31 |
| QuintasanDroid | well, I am almost out of battert | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | especially since you have a clearly defined start condition | 11:31 |
| * QuintasanDroid wants a git client for android | 11:32 | |
| apachelogger | QuintasanDroid: that sounds scary ^^ | 11:32 |
| QuintasanDroid | why? | 11:32 |
| QuintasanDroid | coding on my mobile? | 11:32 |
| QuintasanDroid | better than biology | 11:32 |
| * QuintasanDroid notes he has physical keyboard | 11:32 | |
| * QuintasanDroid starts paying attention to the lesson | 11:34 | |
| QuintasanDroid | see you later | 11:34 |
| * apachelogger thinks our understanding of touchegg was rather wrong at uds | 12:23 | |
| afiestas | apachelogger: where can I find the latest version of "Release suite" ? | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/226892_10150585375715182_821070181_18774288_1328162_n.jpg | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | what kinda suite do you mean? | 12:23 |
| afiestas | the ruby apps to create tarballs | 12:24 |
| jussi | ROFL! | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | oh | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: kde:releaseme | 12:24 |
| afiestas | thanks | 12:25 |
| afiestas | is there any page with a list of uds pictures? | 12:36 |
| debfx | does anyone have an idea about FAM in kdelibs? do we want it? | 12:40 |
| debfx | bug #525005 | 12:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 525005 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "kubuntu kde4 missing fam support for nfs (kdelibs-bin)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525005 | 12:40 |
| debfx | when built with libgamin a gam_server process is autostarted | 12:42 |
| afiestas | debfx: it should not be needed afaik | 12:42 |
| afiestas | KDirWatcher uses inotify (or whatever is new) | 12:42 |
| debfx | does that also work with nfs? | 12:43 |
| afiestas | mmm dunno, it depends on what nfs does kernel-wise | 12:43 |
| afiestas | if nfs trigger a inotify even, then yes | 12:43 |
| debfx | ok thanks, I'll keep it disabled for now | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: don't think so, but you could start one ;) | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: jono would know if there is any existing though | 12:58 |
| === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina | ||
| debfx | apachelogger: when will we get a good phonon video player? | 13:07 |
| debfx | since vlc has a huge memory leak in the pulseaudio plugin I'm stuck with dragon :/ | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | after gsoc | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | Internal Server Error \o/ | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | this is rather silly | 13:09 |
| yofel | use smplayer? | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | yofel: how is that a good player exactly? | 13:10 |
| yofel | well, it's better than dragon, and vlc get's on my nerves sometimes | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | how is it better than dragon? | 13:10 |
| debfx | does it support cropping and seek shortcuts (like alt+left/right in vlc)? | 13:12 |
| yofel | yep, and dragon can't increase the volume to > 100% which is sometimes a bit too silent on my notebook | 13:13 |
| yofel | in mplayer it's just up/down/left/right though | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/593497 | 13:21 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 593497 in Light Display Manager "Make KDE greeter" [Wishlist,In progress] | 13:21 |
| apachelogger | we should poke david | 13:21 |
| afiestas | I'm reading right now a pdf about consolekit.. | 13:22 |
| afiestas | I have been hacking a little bit on it, so far I got "Session listing" working, but haven't be able to switch to another user for example | 13:22 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: UDS session leads plz compile a todo list for your sessions!!! | Merges https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | Oneiric open for development | UDS: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O | Council elections: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2011-May/005170.html | ||
| afiestas | oooooo mmmmm ggg | 13:23 |
| afiestas | Mr.Edmundson on lightdm .d | 13:23 |
| * afiestas smiles :D | 13:23 | |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 13:23 |
| * apachelogger notes that some session notes are pretty crappy | 13:24 | |
| * afiestas will try to get something working for within this week | 13:24 | |
| apachelogger | we need to do a how-to-take-proper-notes training | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: :O coooool | 13:25 |
| * afiestas thinks that would be awesome having the printer applet as a plasmoid | 13:30 | |
| afiestas | apachelogger: he plans to start working again on the kde greeter once tp is released | 13:37 |
| afiestas | :)! | 13:37 |
| ScottK | tp? | 13:37 |
| afiestas | telepathy | 13:38 |
| afiestas | (kde) | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 13:38 |
| afiestas | btw, I've been using raster since yesterday, so far no problems | 13:38 |
| afiestas | with Qt 4.7.something | 13:38 |
| ScottK | ETOOMANYACRONYMS | 13:38 |
| ScottK | I heard kwin supports raster now. | 13:39 |
| afiestas | xD | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: so, he will start working in 5 years? :P | 13:39 |
| afiestas | ScottK: yes, is what I wanted to test :p | 13:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: He said released, not working. | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: you should try plasma-netbook && rekonq, that is one combination I usually got funny rendering problems | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | might have been kwin related though | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: right ^^ | 13:39 |
| afiestas | kde-telepathy is working for me | 13:41 |
| ScottK | Please let this election thing be over soon. Being subscribed to kubuntu-users hurts. | 13:41 |
| afiestas | Quintasan: saw it :p | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | is it just me or is the kubuntu-web-shortcuts pkg actually not generating useful packages? | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | !info kubuntu-web-shortcuts | 13:42 |
| ubottu | Package kubuntu-web-shortcuts does not exist in natty | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | interesting | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | alrighty | 13:43 |
| yofel | nope, but we still have kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts in oneiric for some reason | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping | 13:43 |
| yofel | ^^ | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | changelog has | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts (11.04ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | AND | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-web-shortcuts (11.04ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low | 13:44 |
| yofel | lol | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | whether that makes sense or not I'll leave up for discussion, but IMHO that is just bogus | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | secondly the whole bugger is not uploaded | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | thrid the packaging building is defunct because there is no install file | 13:44 |
| CIA-51 | [kubuntu-web-shortcuts] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110516125310-6py44eul8gntlfo3 * (5 files in 3 dirs) * Add udsnotes - access meeting notes from UDS * Fix package building (add install file) | 13:53 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: eduard seems to be full in on lightDM :) | 13:54 |
| CIA-51 | [kubuntu-web-shortcuts] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110516125448-p2r76hmecftieur5 * debian/changelog releasing version 11.10ubuntu1 | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: lets poke ossi then | 13:55 |
| * ScottK recommends a very long stick for that. | 13:56 | |
| * afiestas goes afraid to the airport before having to poke ossi :p | 13:57 | |
| afiestas | see you in 5h or tomorrow, cyap! | 13:57 |
| afiestas | (btw, budapest rocks, :p) | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: do you still have the LPSD? | 13:58 |
| Nightrose | always | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: we might need that one soonish | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | mhhh | 13:59 |
| * apachelogger can continue work on todo compliation now that he has a udsnotes shortcut ^^ | 13:59 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Do you have a minion that is capable of doing a proper merge for avogadro? | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger has no packaging minions except for shadeslayer right now | 14:24 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: Quintasan might have | 14:24 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: ^^^ ? | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | probably at school still | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: if you could add the new doc todo items to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Oneiric that would be awesome | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | pending tasks from old todos are marked grey with (SERIESFIRSTLETTER) before the task description | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | bleh, I went from breathing filtered air on the airplane for 7 hours to breathing air with record-high pollen levels back home | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-prelink | 14:47 |
| JontheEchidna | I have Ubuallergies | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | why exactly is the person who resgistered deactivated? | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh gee | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: perfect opporunity to write some todo lists :P | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging for example could use that | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | k | 14:51 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: btw, how did your lightning talk go? | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: there was none | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: way too many people wanted to do lightning talk | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | +s | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: should I just cram all 3 sessions-worth of etherpad junk into that one spec? | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yeah | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | two was only patch review anyway | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | which is already implemented I think | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | right, we did that during the session | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan is working on sending some of those upstream still | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | so at best it's "in progress" | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | you could just add a task "send qt patches upstream" and link to the notes | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I might have one available | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: btw, lp:kubuntu-web-shortcuts now has udsnotes: which expands to summit.ubuntu.com... | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | brr | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | What the... | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | My expenses mail was not delivered somehow | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | @_@ | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: may I see your expense claim form? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | like I have one? | 15:00 |
| JontheEchidna | it's attached to the email titled "IMPORTANT: UDS O Budapest, 9-13 May: FINAL DETAILS" | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | oh right | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | still xls | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | I wonder if this will ever change | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | what do I write in there @_@ | 15:06 |
| * apachelogger has a much improved form btw | 15:10 | |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: http://i.imgur.com/PnwuR.png | 15:10 |
| JontheEchidna | some of the forms will auto-fill once you put in info | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | We can claims shuttles? | 15:11 |
| Quintasan | Can I also claim my bus travel to airport? | 15:12 |
| JontheEchidna | we were able to last year | 15:13 |
| JontheEchidna | at the worst they'll say "we can't expense that" and will ask you to re-email the form without that claimed | 15:13 |
| JontheEchidna | "Please ensure you keep all receipts for all transfers and anything else you are claiming for." <-- implies that they are accepting expense reports for travel to/from the airport | 15:15 |
| JontheEchidna | though they said that last year too and I never had to send in the receipt | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | shit can't find the recipt | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you can claim every travel necessary to getting to the hotel and home again | 15:17 |
| * apachelogger is a very cheap lad | 15:18 | |
| apachelogger | 104 EUR | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | 94.44 USD in total for me | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: e.g. for last UDS I also claimed the ESTA fee | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that was one cheap flight | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | right, that cost like $900 USD | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | see :P | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what is the additional 94 from though? | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | that is meal per diems plus the shuttle | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | do we actually get per diem for tuesday? | 15:21 |
| * apachelogger only ahs one per-diem :( | 15:22 | |
| apachelogger | I drunk too much to make up for it with one per diem ^^ | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | hmmmm | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | my bus fare to berlin was in Polish złoty | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | they said that we couldn't do a dinner per diem from monday and friday | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | and no lunch per diems for monday - friday | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you are claiming in zloty aren't you? | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | I did not eat much on tuesday anyway :P | 15:23 |
| JontheEchidna | but if you had dinner on tuesday at that linaro thing I wouldn't think you could claim per diem | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | I claimed only shuttlebus fares, 1xlunch 1xdinner | 15:23 |
| JontheEchidna | and we can't claim on wednesday since Riddell is going to expense that | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: when was the lunch? | 15:24 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sunday, before you got in | 15:24 |
| JontheEchidna | we went to KFC | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | one can claim sunday? | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I am claiming in złoty, but Bus fare TO Berlin airport was in złoty | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: yeah, so? | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: in the amt to be reimbursed column of the table: =IF(F16=$E$10,G16,IF(G16>0,G16/$H$10,0)) | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: no idea if we can claim for sunday | 15:25 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I would think so. They say that you can't claim for monday - friday, and they give an amount for lunch, so one would reason that you can claim for sunday | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | if the currency in the currency column is whatever code zloty has, just use that, else calculate HUF to zloty | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | ScottK will know | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: can one claim sunday? | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | 187$ with bus to and from airport | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | I ain't claiming lunch | 15:40 |
| ScottK | One can claim Sunday | 16:09 |
| ScottK | One can't claim dinners on days where it was provided. | 16:09 |
| ScottK | It looks like we have no/little choice on kdepim. | 16:15 |
| ScottK | KDE 4.7 will require shared-desktop-ontologies 0.7 and it doesn't work with kdepim < 4.6. | 16:15 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^^ I think the packaging spec should reflect this. | 16:16 |
| JontheEchidna | kk | 16:16 |
| steveire | ScottK: imo that needs to be fixed | 16:43 |
| ScottK | steveire: That would be nice, but as a downstream we're kind of stuck. If only there was someone around who was active on kdepim upstream ... | 16:43 |
| steveire | If it's a change in kdelibs that makes applications compiled against a previous version, then that's a bug | 16:43 |
| ScottK | steveire: Are you subscribed to the KDE packagers list? | 16:44 |
| steveire | as far as I can tell it's a kdelibs problem. But I'm not entirely clear on the issue. I'm not, no | 16:44 |
| ScottK | Let me find the relevant message. | 16:44 |
| steveire | But I think it's generated code, so kdepim 4.6 built against kdelibs46 will run against kdelibs47 | 16:45 |
| steveire | Which is why I think it's 'technially ok' to some people because it's a grey areas | 16:45 |
| steveire | area* | 16:45 |
| steveire | The grey area seems to be that building kdepim4.6 against kdelibs4.7 won't work anymore. Is that what packagers would do? | 16:46 |
| steveire | I think at the very least, this issue needs to make that grey area black or white from the KDE pov. | 16:48 |
| ScottK | steveire: http://paste.kde.org/71773/ | 16:48 |
| ScottK | "What would packagers do?" - Hope for a patch? | 16:48 |
| steveire | I think that was cc'd to kde-pim@ too. I don't know. Did eabstian answer? | 16:49 |
| ScottK | Not that I saw on packagers. | 16:49 |
| steveire | No, what do packagers do with a kdepim4.6 tarball. Do you usually try to compile it against the latest version of kdelibs47? | 16:49 |
| ScottK | Against whatever we have in the archive. | 16:49 |
| ScottK | So ~now it'd be against 4.6, but once we get 4.7 in the archive it'll have to build against that. | 16:50 |
| steveire | Right. And I think the whole point of 'kdelibs is source/binary compatible for the lifetime of kde4' is to make that possible. | 16:50 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 16:50 |
| steveire | I'll see if I can find the root of the issue, but not today. | 16:51 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 16:51 |
| steveire | Sure. | 16:51 |
| bambee | evening | 16:56 |
| ScottK | Noon. | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: ping | 17:01 |
| ScottK | maco: Would you please look into the installer spec and see what seems reasonable for you to take on this cycle? | 17:04 |
| maco | ok | 17:05 |
| bambee | Is there something to do for oneiric ? | 17:05 |
| Quintasan | HURR DURR | 17:09 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/608498 | 17:09 |
| Quintasan | why do I get shitload of these? | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: pogo | 17:15 |
| ScottK | maco: Thanks. | 17:17 |
| debfx | is there progress upstream to set $LANG based on the locale kcm settings? | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: When we were talking about my plan to get a MPC to my living room you suggested I would rather be interested in upsteam VLC rather than ours, why is that? | 17:18 |
| ScottK | agateau: Could you see about getting someone to verify the qt4-x11 memory leak fix with unity-2d that's in natty-proposed? | 17:18 |
| agateau | ScottK: yes, will do | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: cause ours breaks ever so often | 17:18 |
| debfx | because I'd say that is our biggest i18n issue | 17:18 |
| ScottK | agateau: Thanks. | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: was that fabi account deactiavte before? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-prelink | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: the problem is that XBMC uses mplayer to play stuff | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: so? | 17:21 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: No. It was not. I guess we scared him off. | 17:21 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: How did that discussion go? | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: plasma media center will solve all them problems | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | so so, I'd rather use XBMC so my parents don't go "WTF LLINUX MAGIC" | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: horrible | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | +1 on horrible | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan was running through the room | 17:21 |
| ScottK | So should I disapprove the spec then? | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | people were talking about all sorts of things | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | no one really cared | 17:22 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | and the fabi guy also was not terribly interested in commiting to anything IMHO | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: disapproval seems about right | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | also it saves me from writing a todo :P | 17:22 |
| bambee | +1 | 17:23 |
| ScottK | There isn't a "burn with fire" option, but I got as close as I could. | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: we should take a note to not have random sessions, but instead make people more active throughout the cycle | 17:23 |
| Quintasan | +over9000 | 17:23 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. | 17:23 |
| ScottK | I think it was worth a shot. | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | that prelink stiff is much more discussable over IRC as basically the discussion without actual information (i.e. research required) was rather moot | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: yeah, worthwhile experience I'd say | 17:24 |
| * apachelogger should write down his thoughts probably | 17:24 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK, Quintasan, JontheEchidna, rbelem: how did you like the wrap up meetings btw? something we can continue doing? | 17:29 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Yes. | 17:29 |
| ScottK | That or have a first thing in the morning 'roundtable' - What most tracks do. | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I liked those, since some days I went to other tracks to ensure that they didn't f*** us over | 17:30 |
| Quintasan | +1 on roundtable | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | formally scheduling them next time would be a good idea too | 17:30 |
| Quintasan | makes ppl more compelled to show up | 17:30 |
| Quintasan | and not pulling a Rodrigo | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | some mornings it felt like there was little Kubuntu stuff | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | jorge said roundtables are usually crapz | 17:31 |
| JontheEchidna | then let's not call them roundtables :P | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | what we could do is meet between 8:45 and 9 to do that | 17:32 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: We should have post-session bar BOF then. | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | that way we do not clash with other stuff | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: would also work | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | but definitely we should schedule them | 17:33 |
| ScottK | I think it makes more sense to do it end of the day as by the next morning some of the relevant brain cells are missing. | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: actually I'd prefer it in the evening, that way we still remember things somewhat well, and don't forget useful things due to ballmer's peak implementations ^^ | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | :D | 17:34 |
| ScottK | That's the one spec we got done so far. | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | we should do more research next time though | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | all we know for sure is that apachelogger approaches ballmer's peak after about 1 glass of soproni | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | and that 2 are too much | 17:35 |
| * apachelogger needs to pack for Graz | 17:39 | |
| padams | hey y'all... long time listener, first time caller | 17:48 |
| padams | ?anyone know the status of bug 333944? | 17:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 333944 in kdelibs "Kubuntu jaunty: kded4 at 100% of CPU load" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333944 | 17:48 |
| ScottK | Hello padams. | 17:48 |
| padams | ScottK: hey | 17:48 |
| padams | how are you? | 17:48 |
| ScottK | Busy. | 17:50 |
| ScottK | Looking at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178228 it seems some causes are fixed, but others remain. | 17:50 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 178228 in kded "kded4 makes high CPU load and hangs ths system on STOP signal" [Crash,New] | 17:50 |
| padams | might relate to: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217364 | 17:51 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 217364 in kded "KDED4 uses 100% of the cpu if the network backend is not FakeNet" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 17:51 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 17:51 |
| padams | this is killing me | 17:51 |
| ScottK | I don't seem to suffer from it. | 17:51 |
| padams | every time i disconnect from vpn i hit this | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | padams: what sorta vpn? | 17:52 |
| padams | apachelogger: hey dude, openvpn | 17:52 |
| padams | what's weird is that i am sure i wasn't getting this just a few days ago | 17:54 |
| padams | maybe i just didn't notice - but it is kinda hard not to notice my laptops fans going mental | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | well, it at least supports my theory that it is a module rather than kded4 itsel | 17:55 |
| apachelogger | f | 17:55 |
| * apachelogger shall try if he can reproduce with vpnc once he is home | 17:55 | |
| apachelogger | later | 17:55 |
| padams | thanks for taking a look | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | padams: maybe you could get some debug logs meanwhile? | 17:56 |
| padams | from? how? | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | just cranck everything up in kdebugdialog then kquitapp kded and start in a terminal | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | try to trigger the issue | 17:57 |
| * apachelogger now really needs to leave :P | 17:57 | |
| padams | cheerie bye! | 17:57 |
| padams | ok - i am going to play with this and then will come on back later sometime | 17:58 |
| * Quintasan requires moar UDS Photos | 17:58 | |
| Quintasan | ARRRRRRRRRRRRM | 18:00 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: I have a few more pending upload. I'm being lazy | 18:19 |
| Quintasan | nigelb: cool, I will be borrowing some to show to my parents | 18:24 |
| * Quintasan got a crappy camera | 18:25 | |
| Quintasan | not taking that one next time | 18:25 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: I have a crappy one too :( | 18:25 |
| Quintasan | Still better than mine | 18:25 |
| Quintasan | with little hand shaking everything is getting blured as hell | 18:25 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 18:25 |
| rbelem | o/ | 18:35 |
| ScottK | Whoa. rbelem is awake. | 18:42 |
| ScottK | (probably not by now) | 18:42 |
| rbelem | ScottK, still awake :-D | 18:44 |
| * ScottK reels in shock. | 18:45 | |
| Quintasan | oh god | 18:45 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: \o | 18:45 |
| rbelem | :-D | 18:46 |
| rbelem | hey Quintasan | 18:46 |
| bambee | when I edit a commit with "git commit --amend -a" , there is an easy way to repush it ? | 18:47 |
| bambee | actually it's rejected :\ | 18:47 |
| rbelem | bambee, add -f | 18:47 |
| bambee | are you sure ? | 18:47 |
| rbelem | to the push | 18:47 |
| bambee | ok | 18:47 |
| rbelem | bambee, it will overwrite the HEAD of your remote | 18:48 |
| bambee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/608542/ o_O | 18:49 |
| bambee | I killed a kitten :'( | 18:49 |
| rbelem | ScottK, do you know the names of the two Qt guys that were in budapest? | 18:49 |
| ScottK | I don't. | 18:49 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Pick from this list: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-qt-panel | 18:50 |
| rbelem | bambee, are you trying to do that in your branch? | 18:51 |
| bambee | rbelem: yes | 18:51 |
| bambee | kcm-userconfig it's my repo and Kauth my branch... | 18:52 |
| bambee | I am trying to sync my last commit with the remote branch | 18:52 |
| bambee | because I have commited something which should not be | 18:53 |
| bambee | rbelem: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kcm-userconfig.git&a=commit&h=ce62aa3b01df2e059ab676239a4a760dd4409316 | 18:54 |
| rbelem | bambee, how is your git push cmd? | 18:54 |
| bambee | I try to revert authdb/pwd.py | 18:54 |
| rbelem | thanks ScottK | 18:54 |
| rbelem | :-) | 18:54 |
| bambee | my git push cmd ? I just type "git push" | 18:55 |
| rbelem | bambee, hum... that's why | 18:56 |
| rbelem | bambee, what is the name of you remote? | 18:56 |
| rbelem | your* | 18:56 |
| bambee | kcm-userconfig.git | 18:57 |
| bambee | the push url is "git.k.o/kcm-userconfig.git" | 18:57 |
| rbelem | bambee, could you paste your .git/config for me? :-) | 18:59 |
| bambee | rbelem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/608547/ | 18:59 |
| rbelem | bambee, and what's your branch name? | 19:01 |
| bambee | KAuth | 19:01 |
| rbelem | bambee, paste the output of git branch -a | 19:02 |
| Quintasan | I present, The Most Useless Application In C -> http://paste.kde.org/71905 | 19:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: one is Denis ForgotHisSurnameNow | 19:03 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ddenis on #qt-labs | 19:03 |
| bambee | rbelem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/608548/ | 19:04 |
| rbelem | bambee, try git push -f Kauth Kauth | 19:04 |
| rbelem | thanks Quintasan :-) | 19:04 |
| rbelem | i will leave for some min | 19:05 |
| bambee | rbelem: you probably mean "git push -f KAuth KAuth" ? (with "A") :) | 19:05 |
| yofel | Quintasan: why are you escaping \\n twice? | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | where? | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | :O | 19:07 |
| yofel | well, the paste has \\n instead of \n, or did the paste do that? | 19:08 |
| rbelem | bambee, yup | 19:08 |
| bambee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/608559/ | 19:09 |
| bambee | same with "Kauth" | 19:09 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| bambee | well even git push --help suggests me a "git push --force" in a case like that :\ | 19:35 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: would you be so nice to package my first app for me? I am not a ubuntu nor debian user... | 20:39 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: Its about this: http://salout.github.com/blog/2010/12/18/announcing_kubeplayer.html | 20:39 |
| saLOUt | source code here: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/kubeplayer/repository | 20:39 |
| seaLne | did ubuntu really change the default of ncurses to a pink background? just blinded while upgrading a server to natty | 21:34 |
| ScottK | seaLne: aubergine. | 21:40 |
| seaLne | pink | 21:40 |
| ScottK | It's changable. | 21:40 |
| ScottK | In Kubuntu it's blue. | 21:40 |
| seaLne | this was on server | 21:40 |
| ScottK | Mine is the same way. | 21:40 |
| seaLne | seems like a stupid and pointless change to me | 21:41 |
| ScottK | You'll get no argument from me. | 21:41 |
| bambee | there is plymouth on ubuntu server ? | 21:41 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 21:41 |
| bambee | (assuming you use ubuntu server) | 21:42 |
| seaLne | i've been used to blue ncurses for about 15 years | 21:42 |
| seaLne | before that it was white | 21:42 |
| ScottK | It does I/O parallelization in addition to the display stuff it does. | 21:42 |
| ScottK | seaLne: I'd go ask kirkland in #ubuntu-server how to put it back. It's his change. | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: I already have one :P | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | had one 1 minute after you left yesterday | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 22:15 |
| saLOUt | ah. Do you have a link? Can I .just throw it into opensuse buildservice? | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: generally it is much appreciated to have actual release tarballs | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | you can use the releaseme script from KDE | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | on an unrelated matter | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | me laptop is back \o/ | 22:17 |
| * apachelogger stresstests | 22:17 | |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: if you did a release we could just upload it to ubuntu directly :P | 22:23 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: The app crashes on a regular basis (when you try to watch a youtube video from sony in germany for instance | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | should be fixed then ^^ | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | lemme get my equipment set up again, just moved through half of austria | 22:25 |
| saLOUt | Its a nice toy for developers (I hope for contributions). | 22:25 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: can you paste me your deb config file? | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: btw, every source file must have an appropriate copyright/license header | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | + a copy of your license must be distributed along the source | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | your license = the license of your choice :) | 23:15 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: I have a statement it README.rdoc | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | not sufficient | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | above is obligatory to be properly licensed | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | otherwise you are simply not distributing free software | 23:16 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: Quintasan ScottK rbelem http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=b508e6e29274839b8c505b6c5a56f3feed6020f5 | 23:22 |
| afiestas | the good part of planes with delay :p | 23:22 |
| ScottK | Very nice. | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | :O | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas is wicked | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas++ | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas++ | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas++ | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | afiestas++ | 23:23 |
| afiestas | and email sent to ossi, hope he's ok with the patch | 23:23 |
| afiestas | as far as I can tell everything works, and the patch is easy enough to be backported to 4.6.X | 23:24 |
| * ScottK suspects afiestas will need flame retardant pants. | 23:25 | |
| afiestas | nah, he already replied the email (the email was sent but the push failed), he seems ok with the idea more or less :p | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | more or less | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | lolz | 23:26 |
| * afiestas has great hopes :) | 23:26 | |
| afiestas | ScottK: in case you don't know, David Edmunson is working on a KDE Greeter for lightDM :p | 23:27 |
| ScottK | I didn't until I read the commit message. Great news. | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/src/kubeplayer/debian/ | 23:29 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: thx | 23:30 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: do you tested packaging the app or the app on debian itself? | 23:30 |
| * afiestas is updating from 10.10 to 11.04 :p | 23:35 | |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: I am sorry, but I do not quite understand the question | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: good luck! | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | you will need it :P | 23:37 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: my parents laptop was bought with mmm well don't remember | 23:38 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: /usr/share/kde4/apps/kubeplayer/lib/provider/youtube/Youtube.rb:69:in `request_video_url': private method `scan' called for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) | 23:38 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: you presented me some files with code. Is it working code? Did you test the code to actually package my application? | 23:38 |
| * apachelogger blinks | 23:38 | |
| afiestas | when Dell sold devices in the website, in that "boom" | 23:38 |
| apachelogger | of course I tested it | 23:38 |
| saLOUt | ;) | 23:39 |
| afiestas | and since then, it has survived all updates :p | 23:39 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| apachelogger | afiestas: oh ^^ | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | scary | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | never seen one of them devices | 23:39 |
| saLOUt | saLOUt: what did you do to get this error? Is the app starting at all? | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: started -> searched for come on eileen -> double clicked on one window kab000m | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | s/window/video | 23:39 |
| afiestas | as long as libreoffice, and firefox work, the rest doesn't matter | 23:40 |
| afiestas | a well, and Microsoft Skype too :p | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | lol | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | microsoft skype | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | win | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | ! | 23:40 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: single click is sufficient | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | yeah well, crashes every time | 23:40 |
| saLOUt | try something from michael jackson | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/608701/ | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: that does not crash surprising enough | 23:41 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: mj works. That's important. | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | ah | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | saLOUt: it crashes whenver I click any item except the first one | 23:41 |
| saLOUt | ok. I am gonna list "come on eileen" as unsupported ^^ | 23:42 |
| saLOUt | i searched for "michael .jackson" and first 4 are working fine so far. | 23:42 |
| saLOUt | hm | 23:42 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: blueprints on kde-devel are the suck IMHO | 23:44 |
| saLOUt | apachelogger: thank you so far. I bookmarked the link and will have a deeper look on it tomorrow or so. | 23:48 |
| apachelogger | jussi: http://i.imgur.com/rOHtL.png | 23:48 |
| apachelogger | mine is superior muhahaha | 23:49 |
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