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| jbicha | hmm, I had hoped update-manager would be working again today, but I'm using the still rough 0.9 NetworkManager | 16:54 |
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| jbicha | so changelog checking is broken | 16:54 |
| mvo | jbicha: if you remind me tomorrow I can add a workaround to u-m to ignore NM | 16:56 |
| jbicha | mvo: oh ok, I thought I'd have to wait until nm 0.9 made it into Oneiric | 16:58 |
| mvo | jbicha: I will probably have forgoten by tomorrow but with a gentle reminder tomorrow I can look into it | 16:59 |
| IdleOne | Don't you just love the feeling of anticipation you get when you run an update and it needs a reboot :-) | 19:28 |
| * IdleOne is all excited about not knowing if my system is going to become a brick or not | 19:28 | |
| coz_ | :) | 19:28 |
| IdleOne | I'll be back! | 19:28 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, no brick? | 19:32 |
| IdleOne | nope | 19:32 |
| IdleOne | :) | 19:32 |
| IdleOne | happy to report | 19:32 |
| nit-wit | kernel update? | 19:35 |
| IdleOne | no | 19:37 |
| coz_ | driver video? | 19:37 |
| IdleOne | lots of libs and perl packages | 19:37 |
| coz_ | oh! | 19:37 |
| coz_ | and a reboot was necessary? | 19:38 |
| IdleOne | I didn't really look to see what was being updated. aptdeamon update-manager-core and others | 19:38 |
| nit-wit | video driver probably | 19:38 |
| nit-wit | you brave user not looking .;) | 19:39 |
| IdleOne | what is the log file to see what was updated? | 19:40 |
| nit-wit | there is one in home but i look in synaptic history | 19:40 |
| nit-wit | *in | 19:41 |
| coz_ | somewhere ins var log I believe | 19:41 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, if you didnt update via synaptic I dont think it will be listed under history,, unless that has changed | 19:41 |
| nit-wit | there was a kernel update a couple of days ago thats my bet | 19:41 |
| coz_ | yeah kernel and video drivers are the two most frequent reasons for reboot | 19:42 |
| IdleOne | nit-wit: nope | 19:42 |
| IdleOne | that wasn't it | 19:42 |
| nit-wit | doesn't matter it will show in that synaptic history afaik | 19:42 |
| IdleOne | it didn't. I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 19:43 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, yeah it generally is not registered under synatpic history from apt-get in terminal but I am checking to be sure | 19:43 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, no just did update via terminal no history listed in synaptic,, been that way for years ;) | 19:44 |
| IdleOne | found it. /var/log/aptitude | 19:49 |
| IdleOne | I think | 19:50 |
| coz_ | its somewhere in /var/log for sure | 19:52 |
| yofel | /var/log/apt/history.log usually | 19:53 |
| IdleOne | yeah mine are in /var/log/aptitude I aliased update='sudo aptitude update' | 19:54 |
| yofel | aptitude should still put stuff in history.log, but yeah, aptitudes log file is easier to read | 19:55 |
| nit-wit | sudo gedit /var/log/apt/term.log or to the log itself | 19:57 |
| yofel | that's even harder to get the last actions out from ^^ | 19:58 |
| Ampelbein | nit-wit: gksu for graphical applications! ;-) | 19:58 |
| nit-wit | Amapelbein; I will make sure I watch every post close with the rentetive ego needs thanks.;) | 19:59 |
| IdleOne | gksudo | 19:59 |
| nit-wit | *retentive | 19:59 |
| coz_ | logs are not graphical | 20:00 |
| IdleOne | gedit is | 20:00 |
| Ampelbein | gedit ist | 20:00 |
| IdleOne | :P | 20:00 |
| Ampelbein | nit-wit: it's just a good habit to follow. http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo has a explanation. | 20:00 |
| IdleOne | so anyway here are 3 different logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/608584/ | 20:00 |
| IdleOne | history.log appears to be incomplete | 20:01 |
| IdleOne | term.log is the most complete | 20:01 |
| nit-wit | Ampelbein, If I need to be preached at I would ask bro I'm more then familiar I'm not a noob | 20:01 |
| Ampelbein | IdleOne: you cut off history.log, thats why it looks incomplete | 20:01 |
| Ampelbein | IdleOne: (notice the $ sign at the end) | 20:02 |
| IdleOne | Ampelbein: hmm | 20:02 |
| IdleOne | you are correct Sir | 20:03 |
| IdleOne | my mistake | 20:03 |
| IdleOne | So what caused a reboot to be needed ? | 20:03 |
| Ampelbein | IdleOne: personally i use aptitude.log to check WHAT has been done and term.log/dpkg.log if there is an error | 20:03 |
| Ampelbein | IdleOne: dbus has a call to reboot-required | 20:08 |
| IdleOne | that splains it :) | 20:08 |
| jbicha | the dbus update required a reboot for me | 20:14 |
| Ampelbein | jbicha: yes, in it's postinst it calls /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required | 20:16 |
| jbicha | oops, missed your reply | 20:17 |
| jbicha | I happened to install that update individually today while troubleshooting | 20:18 |
| === Pelmen is now known as SchneeSchwarz | ||
| arand | Is there any more videos from the sessions than those up on youtube? | 20:48 |
| elv | hi guys terrible problem. my keybord (laptop) is no more active. also the mouse does not responds anymore unless i plug it out and then in, but i cannot do the same for the keyboard. i remain on gdm screen... | 20:57 |
| elv | please help me | 20:57 |
| elv | maybe any bugged update today? | 20:57 |
| elv | completely frozen keyboard but it does work whit the live cd so not hardware problem | 20:58 |
| elv | i upgraded udev, dbus before.... | 20:59 |
| elv | any ideas? | 21:01 |
| jbicha | elv: are you using Ubuntu 11.04 Natty? | 21:01 |
| elv | no oneiric | 21:02 |
| Ampelbein | elv: if you boot from a live-cd can you scan for any relevant output in /var/log/syslog? | 21:02 |
| Ampelbein | (on the installed system of course) | 21:02 |
| jbicha | elv: you can help test out Ubuntu's accessibility support with the on-screen keyboard ;-), j/k | 21:03 |
| elv | what i have to search there? errors? | 21:04 |
| elv | i don't have orca or similar | 21:04 |
| jbicha | actually, on second thought, if you're using GDM 3, it doesn't have accessibility in Ubuntu on the login screen | 21:04 |
| elv | but it strange couse also mouse it's frozen but after unplug and plug it works | 21:04 |
| jbicha | the old GDM, you just click the accessibility icon and you can enable it | 21:05 |
| Ampelbein | elv: any messages that look like they have something to do with input devices/usb (if you use a usb keyboard) | 21:05 |
| elv | no no i'm usign gnome 2.32 | 21:05 |
| jbicha | oh, click the icon that looks like a human silhouette | 21:05 |
| elv | Ampelbein: it's a laptop not usb | 21:05 |
| elv | jbicha: i uninstalled accessibility long time ago | 21:06 |
| elv | i'll scan /var/log/syslog now | 21:07 |
| jbicha | haha, you never know when you might need it | 21:07 |
| elv | i tried downgrading udev but nothing changed | 21:08 |
| elv | what could cause this problem? never happened something similar | 21:09 |
| yofel | does it work in a tty at least? | 21:09 |
| elv | i managed to get a recovery tty once before | 21:10 |
| kurtul | is oneiric already out? where did you find it? | 21:10 |
| yofel | can't think of anything except udev either though | 21:10 |
| yofel | kurtul: lol, not before october ^^ | 21:10 |
| yofel | hm, someone should put the schedule in the topic | 21:10 |
| kurtul | is alpha out? | 21:10 |
| elv | yofel: but have you upgraded udev today? | 21:10 |
| yofel | kurtul: nope, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | 21:11 |
| elv | yofel: what may i do from a tty? | 21:11 |
| yofel | elv: yes, but didn't restart yet ^^ | 21:11 |
| kurtul | thanks | 21:12 |
| yofel | guess I'll do that, brb | 21:12 |
| elv | yofel: syslog it's hardwork | 21:13 |
| elv | may i search for some keyword? | 21:13 |
| === rww changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Oneiric Ocelet now open for breakage! | Natty has been released, support in #ubuntu | Oneiric release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Perl 5.12 rebuilds going on, don't upgrade until they are over and be wary of partial upgrades | ||
| === rww changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Oneiric Ocelot now open for breakage! | Natty has been released, support in #ubuntu | Oneiric release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Perl 5.12 rebuilds going on, don't upgrade until they are over and be wary of partial upgrades | ||
| Ampelbein | rww: ocaml rebuilds are on now, perl transition is finished | 21:14 |
| rww | oy | 21:14 |
| rww | Is "nothing in desktop uses ocaml, I don't care" a valid reaction to that ;P | 21:14 |
| Ampelbein | ...no? ;-) | 21:15 |
| rww | ok ;P | 21:15 |
| yofel | hm, nothing broken ehre | 21:15 |
| yofel | *here | 21:15 |
| rww | heh, my tab key's not working >.> | 21:15 |
| rww | . | 21:16 |
| elv | gosh guys | 21:16 |
| elv | syslog make me screw | 21:16 |
| rww | Pici: get in here and fix the topic, irssi's giving me a headache :( | 21:16 |
| Pici | What what | 21:17 |
| Omega | /topic to make it print the topic. :) | 21:17 |
| elv | do you think that if i install oorca from live session will i manage to log in ? | 21:18 |
| Pici | rww: How do you want me to fix it? | 21:18 |
| rww | Pici: Ampelbein says the Perl rebuilds are done and ocaml is up next. | 21:18 |
| Ampelbein | Pici: s/Perl 5.12/OCaml 3.12.0/ | 21:18 |
| rww | and my autocomplete is being screwy and I don't feel like typing the whole dang thing out | 21:18 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Oneiric Ocelot now open for breakage! | Natty has been released, support in #ubuntu | Oneiric release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | OCaml 3.12.0 rebuilds going on, don't upgrade until they are over and be wary of partial upgrades | ||
| Ampelbein | although the ocaml transition should be much smoother, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/oneiric_probs.html has a friendlier look. | 21:20 |
| Ampelbein | the only major problem with oneiric for some people will be pidgin being uninstallable and thus holding back a lot of packages. | 21:20 |
| elv | people i'm getting lost with this keyboard | 21:21 |
| rww | Pici: thanks | 21:22 |
| Pici | rww: np | 21:22 |
| elv | but if it's not udev related what could it be? | 21:25 |
| IdleOne | !info libunique-1.0-0 | 21:37 |
| ubottu | libunique-1.0-0 (source: libunique): Library for writing single instance applications - shared libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1.1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB | 21:37 |
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