=== Braiam-away is now known as Braiam === mdel is now known as mdel_away === croppa is now known as croppa_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel === sony is now known as Guest44914 === dimmortal1 is now known as dimmortal [16:54] hmm, I had hoped update-manager would be working again today, but I'm using the still rough 0.9 NetworkManager [16:54] so changelog checking is broken [16:56] jbicha: if you remind me tomorrow I can add a workaround to u-m to ignore NM [16:58] mvo: oh ok, I thought I'd have to wait until nm 0.9 made it into Oneiric [16:59] jbicha: I will probably have forgoten by tomorrow but with a gentle reminder tomorrow I can look into it [19:28] Don't you just love the feeling of anticipation you get when you run an update and it needs a reboot :-) [19:28] * IdleOne is all excited about not knowing if my system is going to become a brick or not [19:28] :) [19:28] I'll be back! [19:32] IdleOne, no brick? [19:32] nope [19:32] :) [19:32] happy to report [19:35] kernel update? [19:37] no [19:37] driver video? [19:37] lots of libs and perl packages [19:37] oh! [19:38] and a reboot was necessary? [19:38] I didn't really look to see what was being updated. aptdeamon update-manager-core and others [19:38] video driver probably [19:39] you brave user not looking .;) [19:40] what is the log file to see what was updated? [19:40] there is one in home but i look in synaptic history [19:41] *in [19:41] somewhere ins var log I believe [19:41] IdleOne, if you didnt update via synaptic I dont think it will be listed under history,, unless that has changed [19:41] there was a kernel update a couple of days ago thats my bet [19:42] yeah kernel and video drivers are the two most frequent reasons for reboot [19:42] nit-wit: nope [19:42] that wasn't it [19:42] doesn't matter it will show in that synaptic history afaik [19:43] it didn't. I used apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [19:43] IdleOne, yeah it generally is not registered under synatpic history from apt-get in terminal but I am checking to be sure [19:44] IdleOne, no just did update via terminal no history listed in synaptic,, been that way for years ;) [19:49] found it. /var/log/aptitude [19:50] I think [19:52] its somewhere in /var/log for sure [19:53] /var/log/apt/history.log usually [19:54] yeah mine are in /var/log/aptitude I aliased update='sudo aptitude update' [19:55] aptitude should still put stuff in history.log, but yeah, aptitudes log file is easier to read [19:57] sudo gedit /var/log/apt/term.log or to the log itself [19:58] that's even harder to get the last actions out from ^^ [19:58] nit-wit: gksu for graphical applications! ;-) [19:59] Amapelbein; I will make sure I watch every post close with the rentetive ego needs thanks.;) [19:59] gksudo [19:59] *retentive [20:00] logs are not graphical [20:00] gedit is [20:00] gedit ist [20:00] :P [20:00] nit-wit: it's just a good habit to follow. http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo has a explanation. [20:00] so anyway here are 3 different logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/608584/ [20:01] history.log appears to be incomplete [20:01] term.log is the most complete [20:01] Ampelbein, If I need to be preached at I would ask bro I'm more then familiar I'm not a noob [20:01] IdleOne: you cut off history.log, thats why it looks incomplete [20:02] IdleOne: (notice the $ sign at the end) [20:02] Ampelbein: hmm [20:03] you are correct Sir [20:03] my mistake [20:03] So what caused a reboot to be needed ? [20:03] IdleOne: personally i use aptitude.log to check WHAT has been done and term.log/dpkg.log if there is an error [20:08] IdleOne: dbus has a call to reboot-required [20:08] that splains it :) [20:14] the dbus update required a reboot for me [20:16] jbicha: yes, in it's postinst it calls /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required [20:17] oops, missed your reply [20:18] I happened to install that update individually today while troubleshooting === Pelmen is now known as SchneeSchwarz [20:48] Is there any more videos from the sessions than those up on youtube? [20:57] hi guys terrible problem. my keybord (laptop) is no more active. also the mouse does not responds anymore unless i plug it out and then in, but i cannot do the same for the keyboard. i remain on gdm screen... [20:57] please help me [20:57] maybe any bugged update today? [20:58] completely frozen keyboard but it does work whit the live cd so not hardware problem [20:59] i upgraded udev, dbus before.... [21:01] any ideas? [21:01] elv: are you using Ubuntu 11.04 Natty? [21:02] no oneiric [21:02] elv: if you boot from a live-cd can you scan for any relevant output in /var/log/syslog? [21:02] (on the installed system of course) [21:03] elv: you can help test out Ubuntu's accessibility support with the on-screen keyboard ;-), j/k [21:04] what i have to search there? errors? [21:04] i don't have orca or similar [21:04] actually, on second thought, if you're using GDM 3, it doesn't have accessibility in Ubuntu on the login screen [21:04] but it strange couse also mouse it's frozen but after unplug and plug it works [21:05] the old GDM, you just click the accessibility icon and you can enable it [21:05] elv: any messages that look like they have something to do with input devices/usb (if you use a usb keyboard) [21:05] no no i'm usign gnome 2.32 [21:05] oh, click the icon that looks like a human silhouette [21:05] Ampelbein: it's a laptop not usb [21:06] jbicha: i uninstalled accessibility long time ago [21:07] i'll scan /var/log/syslog now [21:07] haha, you never know when you might need it [21:08] i tried downgrading udev but nothing changed [21:09] what could cause this problem? never happened something similar [21:09] does it work in a tty at least? [21:10] i managed to get a recovery tty once before [21:10] is oneiric already out? where did you find it? [21:10] can't think of anything except udev either though [21:10] kurtul: lol, not before october ^^ [21:10] hm, someone should put the schedule in the topic [21:10] is alpha out? [21:10] yofel: but have you upgraded udev today? [21:11] kurtul: nope, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [21:11] yofel: what may i do from a tty? [21:11] elv: yes, but didn't restart yet ^^ [21:12] thanks [21:12] guess I'll do that, brb [21:13] yofel: syslog it's hardwork [21:13] may i search for some keyword? === rww changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Oneiric Ocelet now open for breakage! | Natty has been released, support in #ubuntu | Oneiric release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Perl 5.12 rebuilds going on, don't upgrade until they are over and be wary of partial upgrades === rww changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Oneiric Ocelot now open for breakage! | Natty has been released, support in #ubuntu | Oneiric release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Perl 5.12 rebuilds going on, don't upgrade until they are over and be wary of partial upgrades [21:14] rww: ocaml rebuilds are on now, perl transition is finished [21:14] oy [21:14] Is "nothing in desktop uses ocaml, I don't care" a valid reaction to that ;P [21:15] ...no? ;-) [21:15] ok ;P [21:15] hm, nothing broken ehre [21:15] *here [21:15] heh, my tab key's not working >.> [21:16] . [21:16] gosh guys [21:16] syslog make me screw [21:16] Pici: get in here and fix the topic, irssi's giving me a headache :( [21:17] What what [21:17] /topic to make it print the topic. :) [21:18] do you think that if i install oorca from live session will i manage to log in ? [21:18] rww: How do you want me to fix it? [21:18] Pici: Ampelbein says the Perl rebuilds are done and ocaml is up next. [21:18] Pici: s/Perl 5.12/OCaml 3.12.0/ [21:18] and my autocomplete is being screwy and I don't feel like typing the whole dang thing out === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Oneiric Ocelot now open for breakage! | Natty has been released, support in #ubuntu | Oneiric release schedule: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | OCaml 3.12.0 rebuilds going on, don't upgrade until they are over and be wary of partial upgrades [21:20] although the ocaml transition should be much smoother, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/oneiric_probs.html has a friendlier look. [21:20] the only major problem with oneiric for some people will be pidgin being uninstallable and thus holding back a lot of packages. [21:21] people i'm getting lost with this keyboard [21:22] Pici: thanks [21:22] rww: np [21:25] but if it's not udev related what could it be? [21:37] !info libunique-1.0-0 [21:37] libunique-1.0-0 (source: libunique): Library for writing single instance applications - shared libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1.1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB === mdel_away is now known as mdel