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MrChrisDruifLubuntu00:10
MrChrisDruif[styx]; You could try Lubuntu, it's based Ubuntu with LXDE as DE00:11
[styx]i wansnt looking for it00:12
[styx]grover78 was00:12
MrChrisDruifOw....alright....but you could also try it ;)00:13
MrChrisDruifxD00:13
[styx]lol00:14
[styx]maybe00:14
[styx]im happy with 11.0400:14
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grover78can anyone give me some info plz? looking for a nice light OS to run. Ubuntu is OK, but is there something lighter?00:28
grover78I'm gonna try mint 10. Or puppy... pro's and cons of these??00:30
MrChrisDruifgrover78; Lubuntu00:30
MrChrisDruifPuppy is just weird, mainly designed to run as live-system00:31
MrChrisDruifLubuntu (Or Mint 10 LXDE/Peppermint??) is Ubuntu but then with LXDE as DE00:32
MrChrisDruif!DE00:32
ubot2In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.00:32
MrChrisDruifMeh...00:32
MrChrisDruifNot what I wanted00:32
grover78what's lubuntu like compared to ubuntu? I'm still getting used to linux stuff. I'm used to WinXP00:32
MrChrisDruifgrover78; I don't really understand what you mean? Really late over here...00:33
grover78what's the diff between lubuntu and ubuntu?00:33
grover78I just want a nice light OS, user friendly of course...00:33
MrChrisDruifThe biggest difference between is the Desktop Environment chosen. Lubuntu uses LXDE (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment) where Ubuntu uses Gnome.00:34
MrChrisDruifBut they use the same repositories, so you can install everything you can install from Ubuntu on Lubuntu00:35
MrChrisDruifBasic install is very minimal with Lubuntu, so the "full-desktop" you get with Ubuntu you don't get. But you get a good base to start with :)00:35
genshootergrover: im using xubuntu (10.04) on my (dell) pentium4 2.5ghz 512ram old school comp... it seems nicer to my limited resources than ubuntu 10.04 was00:36
grover78ok... well I've got mint (Julia) and lubuntu 11.04 on the download....00:36
MrChrisDruifgenshooter; Xfce is medium-weight nowadays00:36
genshooteri believe it00:36
grover78genshooter, thanks for the info, I've got a p4 2 ghz with 756RAM...00:36
MrChrisDruifgrover78; If you got any questions concerning Lubuntu, please join #lubuntu for direct support or read about it on wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu00:37
genshooterhas alot of stuff ive turned off like the second workspace, im actually right now trying to find out the best way to edit what programs/scripts/commands are run on startup00:37
genshooterthe linux equivolent of msconfig00:37
grover78right....00:37
grover78at this point I think I'll try lubuntu first, see if that's smoother then ubuntu00:38
grover78if that's no go then I'll try mint00:38
MrChrisDruifgenshooter; wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu ?00:38
seidosstallman.org00:38
MrChrisDruifOr help.ubuntu.com/community/Xubuntu perhaps?00:38
MrChrisDruifgrover78; It'll run smoother, you can count on it :)00:39
grover78sounds good00:39
grover78so here's a question... how do I download proriatry drivers for my mobo?00:40
grover78I tried going to the website for support but it doesn't recognize firefox00:40
MrChrisDruifGraphics driverS?00:41
grover78yeah, mobo has built in graphics/vid card00:41
grover78just hoping to squeeze a bit more performance out of this box00:41
grover78nvm I think I might have found a work-around00:43
grover78...or not. File is dos/win only00:43
grover78ok so how would I run a win/dos .exe file in linux?00:47
[styx]wine00:49
[styx]grover7800:49
grover78yeah?00:50
MrChrisDruif[styx]; Yes, but that wouldn't really help him if he tried to install a driver....for Windows00:50
MrChrisDruifgrover78; Just try it...00:51
grover78well the file are supposed to be installed to the BIOS... drivers and such00:51
MrChrisDruifLubuntu without proprietary drivers I mean00:51
grover78lol oh00:51
[styx]oh00:51
MrChrisDruifDrivers to BIOS....00:51
grover78well, still waiting on the DL00:51
[styx]i thought he was just trying to run a program00:51
grover78well tell you what. I'll just hang tight while lubuntu DL's00:52
grover78can lubuntu run live?00:52
MrChrisDruifgrover78; Yup00:53
MrChrisDruifThey use Ubiquity just like Ubuntu00:53
MrChrisDruifUbiquity is the fancy "Ubuntu" name for installer00:54
grover78good stuff. So I'll leave ubuntu installed and run lubunto live for a bit to see what I think00:54
grover78hey, can I run lubuntu and ubuntu as a dual-boot?00:55
grover78sorry, random thought there lol00:55
[styx]go through the install process00:56
[styx]just like you did with ubuntu00:56
[styx]but partiton your harddrive00:56
[styx]and install it on the partiton00:56
grover78ok will do00:56
grover78I got a terrible DL speed so I'm gonna hop off here... I'll try the install and come back later00:57
r4yI want to know how long pastebin holds the info pasted, as well as how long imagebin hold images01:28
r4yI can offtopic if that is better then asking here. I guess it is offtopic01:29
genshooterwere talkin about pastebin in #ubuntu right now maybe someone there will know?01:37
r4yI went to offtopic and some answered my question saying that it is stored for about a month.01:42
r4yI meant ubuntu-offtopic01:42
r4yTY, bye o/01:42
JackyAlcinepastebin lasts usually about a month, but you can change that.01:46
grover78bio you here?02:03
bioterrorfor a moment02:04
bioterrorit's 4am :D02:04
grover78where the heck are you?? (I'm in canada its 8pm here)02:04
MrChrisDruifIndeed, where are you? as it's only 3 here02:05
bioterrorgrover78, that country which just won ice hochey world championship ;)02:05
MrChrisDruifAM*02:05
grover78anyways, how is it possible to burn a cd, yet ubuntu not recognise my CD drive under computer?02:05
grover78lol I see Bio02:05
bioterrorgrover78, sudo lshw02:06
bioterrorcan you see your cd-rom drive02:06
grover78nope, thats the thing. I just burned lubuntu to CD, but yet under places>computer I can't see the cd rom02:07
grover78strange no?02:07
bioterrorhmmm02:08
bioterroryou have cd in the drive?02:08
grover78well the one I just burned. I suppose it was a bad burn and the computer just thinks theres nothing in the drive02:09
bioterrortry audio cd or something else02:10
grover78yeah I just tried my ubuntu CD and that's recognised.02:10
grover78guess I should re-burn lubuntu and see what happens02:10
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bioterrorgrover78, your computer doesnt support usb boot?02:11
[styx]its old he said02:12
bioterrorfor me C2D is old too02:13
grover78sadly no bioterror usb boot is not an optiion02:13
grover78I have to burn the iso to CD and boot from the CD02:14
grover78do I burn the iso, or the contents of the iso file?02:14
bioterrorgrover78, check MD5sum first02:14
grover78how do I do that?02:15
bioterrormd5sum fooo.iso02:15
grover78?02:19
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM02:21
Ambrose83how do i make virtualbox recognize my USB03:01
Ambrose83The ubuntu website says:03:04
Ambrose83Add yourself to the user group vboxusers, then log out and back in, to make use of available USB devices. To do this via the graphical interface, click in the menu System/Administration/ Users and Groups.03:04
Ambrose83However I do not see the vboxusers option in the Users and Groups section03:04
JackyAlcineYou might need the non-OSE version of VirtualBox, Ambrose8303:27
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Ambrose83I am looking for the virtualbox-4.0 in the software downloader but i can't seem to find it03:47
BraiamAmbrose83: I guest that is a separate repo for that03:50
Ambrose83Braiam: I am not sure what that means03:51
BraiamAmbrose83: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/608146/03:52
Braiamups bad link03:52
Braiamhttp://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads03:52
BraiamAmbrose83: look for the Linux Host line03:53
Braiamthen Debian based distros03:53
Ambrose83Funny, I just did that I have got the package installing now03:54
Ambrose83Now VirtualBox-4.0 is giving me an error message:03:58
Ambrose83Failed to access the USB subsystem03:58
Ambrose83Details:03:58
Ambrose83Result Code:03:59
Ambrose83NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x00004005)03:59
Ambrose83Component:03:59
Ambrose83Host03:59
Ambrose83Interface:03:59
Ambrose83IHost {35b004f4-7806-4009-bfa8-d1308adba7e5}03:59
Ambrose83Callee:03:59
Ambrose83IMachine {662c175e-a69d-40b8-a77a-1d719d0ab062}03:59
Error404NotFoundi hate ubuntu04:17
styxwhy04:19
Error404NotFoundwont connect to blue tooth kb04:23
BraiamError404NotFound: you have the bluez paq instaled?04:26
Error404NotFoundi have no idea what that is04:31
Error404NotFoundbriaa\\04:31
Error404NotFoundffs04:31
Error404NotFoundBraiam:04:31
BraiamError404NotFound: bluez is the package that manage the bluethoot links in ubuntu04:33
BraiamError404NotFound: also the gnome-bluetooth brings the gui04:34
BraiamError404NotFound: if you want support /join #ubuntu04:38
Error404NotFoundlol04:38
Error404NotFoundlike they suport anyone04:38
BraiamError404NotFound: if they don't know the answer or you don't ask correctly, nobody respond04:41
Error404NotFoundif they didnt understand me they hve no business trying to support anyone...04:49
nit-witError404NotFound, you are such an idiot grow u;p;04:50
Error404NotFoundyou grow up lil fag04:50
BraiamError404NotFound: #u is a pretty big channel so nobody can read so fast04:50
Error404NotFoundno one has ever talked in there04:50
Braiambut they try, also remember is voluntary04:51
BraiamError404NotFound: read the topic, please04:52
Error404NotFoundwhats that have to do with anything04:53
BraiamError404NotFound: there is a interesting link up there How to ask smart questions04:56
Error404NotFoundshould be alink on how to understand english04:58
BraiamError404NotFound: let's move the conversation to #ubuntu-beginners-team05:01
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KyleBI need help with an ftp server.07:33
Puck`and hi to you too, welcome to the ubuntu beginners channel (:07:34
KyleBHi07:34
Puck`well KyleB, until you explain your problem, no one will be able to help you07:35
Error404NotFoundlol07:35
KyleBSorry. I'm having trouble connecting to my ftp server.07:36
Error404NotFounduse a hammer07:36
KyleBlol. I would if that would help.07:36
Error404NotFoundits helped me on many occasion07:37
Puck`KyleB: okay, but what kind of problems? What are you trying to do exactly? What error messages are you getting? (:07:37
Error404NotFoundhe must get a lot of pebkac errors like me07:38
KyleBIn filezilla I get a 530 login incorrect message. Then a critical error.07:38
Puck`KyleB: did you try any other client?07:38
KyleB+Puck': I've tried fireftp.07:39
Puck`KyleB: and, what happened? (:07:39
KyleBI don't remember the errors but I can't connect still.07:40
Error404NotFoundthey got cute ftp for linux?07:42
Puck`Error404NotFound: Google is still your friend07:43
Error404NotFoundgoogle is not nor ever will be my friend07:43
Puck`KyleB: well when was the last time you connected to the FTP? And did anything change since then?07:43
Puck`Error404NotFound: that's your loss, but still doesn't change what I was trying to imply (:07:43
Error404NotFoundits my gain07:43
Error404NotFoundgoogle is evil07:44
Puck`alright.07:44
KyleB+Puck': I've never been able to connect to it.07:44
Puck`KyleB: well then double check your credentials, username and password07:44
KyleB+Puck': I'm new to ftp and not sure what files to check and where there are.07:45
Puck`KyleB: oh I see. So where have you setup your FTP server?07:46
KyleB+Puck': It's at my house.07:46
Puck`KyleB: what FTP software did you install? proftpd?07:46
bioterrorwhy use ftp when there's openssh-server and sftp07:47
* bioterror wonders07:47
KyleB+Puck': Yes.07:47
Error404NotFoundi use hfs07:47
bioterrorError404NotFound, you mean HFS+?07:48
Puck`KyleB: are you sure you can connect to the server? I mean does it have connection to the outside world, it isn't blocked by a router or firewall?07:48
KyleB+Puck': I'm not sure how to test that. lol.07:49
Error404NotFoundshut down yer firewall...07:49
Puck`KyleB: do you have the ip address of your server? You should be able to ping it. Open a terminal and write: ping yourIP07:49
Puck`Error404NotFound: It's awesome that you're trying to help, but please, just help if you're sure you want too, otherwise you might confuse the others (:07:50
KyleB+Puck': All packets recieved.07:51
Puck`KyleB: that's great. proFTPd uses your server username and password as a login, you sure you used those during a login attempt?07:52
Error404NotFoundlol07:52
KyleB+Puck': Yes.07:53
KyleB+Puck': Could I add a new user and try that?07:54
Puck`KyleB: of course, you've got ssh access to the server?07:54
Puck`brb, cigarette break (:07:55
duanedesignhello08:05
duanedesign.6'08:05
duanedesign.508:05
duanedesignugh08:05
Puck`hi duanedesign (:08:08
Puck`rough weekend? ((:08:08
KyleB+Puck': How would I create a new user? Would I use this in terminal?  sudo useradd username -p password -d /home/FTP-shared -s /bin/false08:09
duanedesignsudo adduser <username>08:11
duanedesignor use 'User and groups'08:11
r4yOK, I have a question I have been wondering for many many months if not for more then a year now08:13
r4yI found an entry not listed in alacarte called other. It has applications that are repeated over and over like for instance wine core exe which exists 6 times. I want to lower that number down if not delete what is not useful at all08:15
Puck`KyleB: what duanedesign said (:08:16
Puck`duanedesign: he's adding users on a server, so not User and groups08:16
r4yThese same entries exist under open with08:16
KyleB+Pule`: I can now access it with my account but there are no directories.08:17
KyleBmeant +Puke` sorry.08:17
Puck`KyleB: do you have anything in your /home/ folder?08:17
r4yThese same entries exist under open with other application, sorry I should have completed that sentence08:17
Puck`puke? Ouh ((:08:17
KyleBPuck08:17
KyleBI'm tired. lol.08:18
Puck`haha, it's okay, no worries (:08:18
KyleB+Puck`: Yes.08:19
Puck`KyleB: which username did you login with? The one you just created or the one you tried before and didn't work?08:19
KyleB+Puck`: The one I was trying before. I tried the one I just created and nothing on dice with that one.08:21
Puck`KyleB: you could try to restart proftpd with the command: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart08:21
* DarkwingDuck holds his breath08:22
KyleB+Puke`: Ok I restared it.08:23
Puck`KyleB: try now08:25
duanedesignsorry the -m adds the home directory. sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser08:25
duanedesignsudo passwd testuser  <--add password08:25
KyleB+Puck`: Nothing and now I can login with the other account.08:26
Puck`KyleB: and still no directories? Can you create any?08:27
KyleB+Puck`: I can't even connect anymore.08:27
Puck`KyleB: ouhm, something weird is going on there :\08:28
KyleB+Puck`: Yeah I would say.08:28
* tsimpson notes that the '+' is not part of the nick08:29
KyleBSorry08:31
tsimpsonnothing to be sorry about, just letting you know08:32
KyleBThanks.08:32
tsimpsonit actually signifies they have "voice" in the channel08:32
KyleBVoice?08:32
tsimpsonit's usually used when the channel is moderated, so only people with voice can talk in the channel, but in this case it just shows people who are "important" ;)08:33
KyleBOh. I see.08:34
r4yHmm, so I am looking at these entries under other, like I said there are 6 called wine core exe, I decided instead to look at the 3 called winebrowser under properties of it they have wine start /ProgIDOpen htmlfile %f and wine start /ProgIDOpen htmlfile %f and wine start /ProgIDOpen xmlfile %f so I have an idea of what to do I guess. 2 of those are exactly the same unless I am mistaken, so...08:37
r4y...1 of those I guess can be deleted08:37
r4yI am un aware of the need for these08:37
KyleBPuck`: Any idea what's wrong?08:38
r4yCould I have accidentally made these entries when opening something but instead accidentally opened wine in it's place?08:39
r4yThat's all I am going to post sorry08:40
Puck`KyleB: well seeing that sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't ... i don't really have the slightest idea08:40
KyleBPuck`: This what it says in the proftpd.log - "USER kyle: user is not a UserAlias"08:43
KyleBPuck`: I created a new user and used the first users password to login and it work. But in the proftpd.log it shows that I connected with the first account.09:18
KyleBAnd still no directories.09:24
kristian-t40hi all09:32
wdzzzHello guys i have problem, when I type TOP commands and when im trying to exit top..then CTRL+Z works but its not exit from memory but only suspened top process09:32
coalwatergeez, why do people leave if they don't get their reply in 2 mins09:42
coalwateri was gonna help but his loss09:42
tsimpsonbecause they are impatient09:42
tsimpsonand impatient people don't deserve an answer anyway ;)09:42
pleia2a lot of people don't really understand the IRC format, 2 minutes feels like a long time09:42
DarkwingDuckpleia2: you're up still?09:43
* pleia2 nods09:43
DarkwingDuckXD09:44
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coalwaterwhere are the default apache errors pages located by default..10:35
coalwaterok there's /var/www/error/ but these don't seem like php/html pages10:37
bioterrorcoalwater, how about dpkg -L10:40
bioterrorgee10:40
coalwateri don't understand10:40
coalwaterwhat is that supposed to do10:41
bioterrorinstall lighttpd :D10:42
coalwateri just want a page to respond as if it doesn't exist, though it actually does, just till im done testing10:47
coalwaterand it's on an already working website10:47
coalwaternvm, i just faked it with the page's html10:54
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coalwaterhi cprofitt12:28
cprofitthello coalwater12:28
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vohehi - out - there. I got a problem with Ubuntu 11.04 and the standard gnome (2.0 i guess). I installed LibreOffice 3.4.0-5 Beta. After that i didn't see any menu-icons for Libreoffice?17:16
bioterrorhmmm17:19
coalwaterthere's a gnome menu thing for libre office, do u have it installed?17:19
voheThx, for your post. Shure, i did. But is there a script or anything else to do a update of the icons ??17:20
coalwaterare u talking about the application menu icons, or the in application icons, like open and save and such17:21
bioterroryou should have /usr/share/applications/writer.desktop or something like that17:21
vohe@coalwater no, i talk about the gnome-menue. Application - Office - LibreOffice Writer ...17:22
vohe@bioterror - just a moment, i take a look17:23
coalwaterdo u have a certain theme installed17:23
vohe@coalwater -no it is all set to standard - i mean nothing changed. The only thing i change is the LibreOffice installation. Normaly Libre3.3.2 is installed within Ubuntu11.0417:25
coalwaterdid u check the directory that bioterror told u?17:27
vohei got a file called: /usr/share/applications/libreoffice3.4 writer but thats a link17:27
voheas i click on this link in nautilus - the program starts.17:28
vohethere is also libreoffice3.4 calc and libreoffice3.4 math ... all of them got the same icon17:29
vohebut in the gnome menu i see a (folder) with a questionmark in it17:30
coalwaterit should be in the /usr/share/icons/17:32
coalwateri think the problem is that they are named like that17:32
coalwaterthey shouldn't have the libreoffice prefix17:33
vohehmm. no in the /usr/share/icons folder i only see other folders. They named like the themes i can choose. (e.g. there is a folder called redglass)17:35
vohei found some of the icons. They are at: /usr/share/icons/gnome/128x128/apps17:37
Fvichi all,can anyone plz help me in executing a simple qt program???error-"QApplication: No such file or directory"???18:50
xardas008is it a program you've written?18:51
xardas008or did you download it somewhere?18:51
Fvici downloaded.actually i can send you the program.i have started qt tday only18:51
xardas008try to run qmake --project (or qmake -project don't know if one or two -)18:52
xardas008and after that qmake && make18:52
Fvicyes i tried but actually i think thieir is problem in path setting.error is QApplication:no such file exist18:54
xardas008qt devel files are installed?18:54
xardas008and a .proj file exists?18:55
Fvicah..m sorry but in which directory to find..their are numerous"QtSDK"and "QtCreator"and "Desktop" etc etc18:57
xardas008when you install qtcreator via synaptic everything you need will be installed too18:57
Fvicyes i did that...18:57
xardas008can you send me a link where you downloaded the program? I will have a look at it18:58
Fvicactually i just want to compile c++ program that uses qt header files,but error is coming18:58
Fvick...18:58
Fvicsir i bought abook n got a cd in that...the program was from their..19:00
Fvichttp://pastebin.com/xfjGPGeN19:00
Fvicxardas008, http://pastebin.com/xfjGPGeN19:01
xardas008one moment, i will have a deeper look at it19:01
Fvick..19:01
xardas008ok works for me.19:03
xardas008called the file test.cpp and put it into a folder named test, then inserted the text via copy & paste, run qmake -project && qmake && make on terminal and after that ./test19:03
xardas008and program started19:03
Fvicis their need for setting environment variable?19:04
xardas008if you can run qmake, then everything is set up19:05
xardas008he needs the .proj file in which he has a information about what packages needed like qtcore19:05
Fvicshould i make test folderin home directory?19:06
xardas008http://pastebin.com/Fn7LviFs19:06
xardas008that stands in my test.pro file19:06
xardas008you need a folder yes19:06
xardas008how you name it depends on your choice19:06
xardas008and where to put19:07
Fvick..i must try it now19:07
xardas008and qmake -project generates the needed .pro file for you19:07
Vvicxardas008, sir,my .pro file was created but cannot run that file.i wrote"./test"[test1 is my file name],then error"bash: ./test1: No such file or directory"       is coming19:14
xardas008what's the output of ls?19:14
xardas008maybe the executable file is called only test19:15
Vvic"hello.cpp  Makefile  test1.pro"19:15
xardas008did you call qmake && make?19:16
Vvicshould i write "./test1.pro"...but then error perission denied is coming19:16
xardas008you need to execute three commands: qmake -project (generates a .pro file), qmake and after that make19:16
Vvicok..i didnt tried make19:17
Vvicsimply make or some other parameter along with make?19:18
xardas008only make19:19
xardas008it will compile your program19:19
Vvichttp://pastebin.com/NhZ1pHpX19:20
Vvicxardas008, list of error coming..http://pastebin.com/NhZ1pHpX19:20
xardas008what files are in /usr/include/qt4?19:24
Fvicxardas008, i installed it in home folder with name QtSDK.....their is none file as such qt4 in  usr/include/19:28
xardas008that's why it doesn't work19:28
xardas008he tries to include this directory and does not find it19:28
xardas008install qt from the ubuntu repositories19:29
Fvicxardas008, so sir any suggestion?19:29
Fvick..."suo apt-get install qt4"...will it be fine19:30
Fvic?19:30
xardas008mom19:30
Fvicmom??19:30
Error404NotFoundmilk of magnesia19:31
xardas008if you call sudo apt-get install qtcreator he will install everything needed19:31
xardas008mom is the short word for moment19:31
Fvick thaks a lot..i will install again19:31
Fvicokz..:).19:32
Error404NotFoundyou would be the first person ive ever seen use mom ad moment it my 12 years on the internet19:32
Error404NotFoundwow i can spell19:32
xardas008Fvic: just tell me if it now works19:47
Fvici will surely sir...gtng installed.19:48
Fvica bit of problem with my net connection.speed is very slow..so taking a time19:49
Fvicxardas008, sir it woked..20:12
xardas008nice20:12
Fvicxardas008, thanks a lot..:)20:12
xardas008np20:12
Fvicnow i m more willing to learn this language further....it was f grt help20:12
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etoddproblems with wireless and ethernet drivers on Dell laptop... can someone help?23:15
coalwateri dont have wireless ,but i could tell u this is a common problem, maybe soon ull find someone to help u23:15
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MrChrisDruif!wireless23:20
ubot2Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:21
MrChrisDruifMore then that I can't help23:21
seidosgotta' find out if there is a working kernel module for your wireless chipset23:21
seidosif not, well...then hopefully you have the patience for ndiswrapper (assuming it will work with your chipset)23:22
etoddubot2, I have no internet access on my laptop now, ethernet driver disappeared too... how do I add drivers via jumpdrive?23:22
ubot2etodd: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:22
seidoswell, i would recommend getting to slack23:23
MrChrisDruifetodd; I gave ubot2 the command.23:23
seidosi'm not sure if the CoC recommends a method of "relaxed work", last time i checked, it didn't23:23
* MrChrisDruif says *Hi*23:23
etoddseidos, wireless worked with ubuntu 10.10, but updated to 11.04 ... gone?23:23
coalwaterlol that ubot2 is smarter than i thought23:24
seidosetodd: when i used 11.04, it worked23:24
seidoswhat chipset are you using etodd ?23:24
etoddseidos, I'm an amateur... how do I locate chipset?23:24
seidosetodd: only way i know is the terminal command "lspci"23:25
seidosthe terminal is our friend23:25
seidosjust like "the graph" in economics23:25
etoddseidos, terminal I can do, commands I don't know23:26
etoddseidos, let me get back to you with my chipset23:26
seidosetodd: you can do lspci | grep Wireless *should* return one line23:26
seidosetodd: then search the web "chipset ubuntu 11.04" something like this23:26
etoddseidos,  lspci gave me a list, not sure where chipset is?23:28
seidosetodd: do lspci | grep Wireless23:29
seidosit should make it one line23:29
seidosbut you're looking for "Wireless"23:29
etoddseidos, nothing23:30
seidosetodd: paste the whole list, i'll find it for you23:30
seidoson paste.ubuntu.com23:30
seidosor...try harder :)23:30
seidoswell, not "harder", but "more" until you succeed23:30
seidosi'm not in a hurry23:30
seidoshopefully you aren't either23:31
seidoshow's life?23:31
etoddseidos, give me a moment, must trx by jumpdrive to windows machine then paste23:32
seidosah, i see23:34
seidosetodd: actually, lspci | grep Ethernet should work23:34
coalwaterok since the dev channel is probably sleeping, any body here for a small regex question23:37
etoddseidos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/608697/23:38
seidoscoalwater: not me23:39
coalwaterlol, well thanks for replying :D23:39
seidosi mean, ask away, but don't be disappointed if i'm unable to help23:39
kristian_holstein, ping23:39
seidosetodd: line 22, "WLAN" should've gave it away, but 802.11b/g also is an indicator23:40
seidoscoalwater: i would think #perl or something would be a better place to ask23:41
etoddseidos, Ethernet brought "Broadcom Corp BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)23:41
coalwaterhm23:42
coalwaterk ill try23:42
seidosetodd: yeah, it would have needed to be lspci | grep Network, apparently23:42
seidosmy wireless is an atheros ath5k, and it is listed with "Wireless" and "Ethernet" labels23:42
seidosetodd: grep just lists lines that match the keyword (it is case sensitive)23:43
seidosso, we're passing the lspci list through grep with a keyword to limit what is returned23:43
seidosanyway, now you know you're chipset \o/23:44
seidosbut broadcom i think is :(23:44
etoddhow do i load a driver for ethernet without access to Ubuntu software center?23:45
seidosfirst we need to find out what kernel module you need23:45
seidosoh, check it out etodd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx23:46
seidosdistilled that WifiDocs link for you a bit23:46
coalwaterlol that #perl seem busy testing some stuff23:47
coalwateri prefer staying here , feels more comfortable lol23:47
seidoshmmm, i'm not sure who else would be good at regexp, #bash or #python?23:47
seidosyou could also try asking in #gnu23:47
seidosthe people there have been pretty cool23:47
coalwaterill ask jes or something when i find her later23:48
seidosand you could also lurk until the channel dies down a bit23:48
seidosright on23:48
coalwaterit's late anyway23:48
coalwateri should sleep23:48
seidossleep is good23:49
seidosmay sweet angels guide thee to thy rest23:50
coalwateryea, and that good thing is something i lack :D23:50
seidosthen, that's bad?23:50
coalwateri know! lol23:51
coalwatertrying to do work then study when im home, and also keep track of other things needed to be done, wish days were longer than 24 hours23:51
seidosgo lay down, watch the breath, maybe watch the breath, or listen to your pulse for a little while23:52
seidosi dunno, i hear good things about biofeedback23:52
seidosyeah, i wish i didn't need to sleep either23:52
seidosbut, no getting around the biology, at least not yet23:52
seidosi hear some people don't need as much sleep as others23:52
seidosbut they are outliers23:52
seidoseveryone else just pretends :|23:53
coalwaterthey try to make them selves believe that so their bodies wont act tired :D23:53
MrChrisDruifcoalwater; You'd find more things to do in days longer then 24 hours <_<"23:54
coalwateryea MrChrisDruif ,probably right23:54
seidosthey probably are just really good at relaxing23:54
seidosstress wears out the mind and body23:54
MrChrisDruifseidos; they?23:56
MrChrisDruifOw, nv I read back :)23:56
coalwaterok i think i've done enough, learned url fetching and doing regex, enough for today :D lol23:59

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