[01:15] <chalcedony> syn-ack, here?
[01:15] <syn-ack> yep
[01:15] <syn-ack> what'
[01:15] <syn-ack> s up
[01:15] <chalcedony> that mail bug is back with a vengeance
[01:16] <chalcedony> in firefox
[01:16] <syn-ack> Hrm
[01:16] <chalcedony> as well as opera
[01:16] <syn-ack> time for valgrind and filing some bug reports, me thinks
[01:16] <chalcedony> ive pretty much forgotten what you told me to do
[01:16] <syn-ack> brb
[01:16] <chalcedony> okies
[01:24] <syn-ack> for\
[01:24] <syn-ack> hrm
[01:24] <syn-ack> so chalcedony which version of Ubuntu are you running, out of curiosity?
[01:24] <chalcedony> 10.04
[01:25] <chalcedony> syn-ack, i haven't been sure about upgrading so i stayed with lts
[01:25] <syn-ack> hrm
[01:26] <syn-ack> this is kind of a hard call but I can tell you that 11.04 runs very nicely thus far
[01:26] <chalcedony> then maybe i will
[01:26] <chalcedony> :)
[01:26] <chalcedony> but for now, can we fix my mail?
[01:28] <syn-ack> I honestly don't know how to go about that. To me, it sounds like there
[01:28] <syn-ack> s  an issue with the JSP engine
[01:28] <micahg> chalcedony: what's the bug?
[01:29] <syn-ack> Her email wont attach files in either Firefox or Opera
[01:29] <chalcedony> micahg, when i try to attach to mail (yahoo mail) but other attachments as well, it attaches the last item in the file list
[01:29] <syn-ack> The last time I had her run a stack trace on it and it suddenly "fixed" its self
[01:29] <chalcedony> my znc.conf or xhcat.conf usually
[01:30] <micahg> chalcedony: is that a multiple select box?
[01:30] <chalcedony> i highlight the proper file and the thing actually scrolls upward .. weird to watch
[01:30] <chalcedony> a what?
[01:31] <micahg> oh, that was a bug in nautilus or gtk I thought?
[01:31] <syn-ack> A box which lets the user select either one or multiple files.
[01:31] <syn-ack> micahg, I think you're right on that, but iirc, Opera isn't a GTK based browser
[01:32] <chalcedony> not that i'm aware of, i just want it to select one file, never got it to do more
[01:32] <syn-ack> iirc, its QT based which allows it to complaint with dual licensing
[01:33] <micahg> bug 558674
[01:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 558674 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Open file dialog malfunctions in lucid (affects: 23) (dups: 1) (heat: 108)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558674
[01:33] <chalcedony> i was guessing nautilus before .. but no proof
[01:34] <chalcedony> yeah
[01:34] <syn-ack> hrm, it seems that is your bug chalcedony
[01:35] <bcurtiswx> micahg, you've recovered already from the travel?
[01:35] <micahg> bcurtiswx: what gives you that impression?  I got back 2 hrs ago
[01:36] <bcurtiswx> you're online :P
[01:36] <bcurtiswx> j/m
[01:36] <bcurtiswx> 2 hours, did you have a late flight?
[01:36] <chalcedony> i wonder why i never saw any mails about the bug
[01:36] <micahg> bcurtiswx: no, I left sun morning
[01:37] <chalcedony> but i'm really glad people noticed it besides me
[01:37] <bcurtiswx> micahg, glad you made it home safely :)
[01:37] <micahg> chalcedony: the problem is that it's fixed, but we don't have the commit to backport
[01:38] <micahg> bcurtiswx: thanks :)
[01:38] <chalcedony> so what do i have to do micahg ?
[01:38] <micahg> chalcedony: idk, if you have time, you could review the commits between GTK 2.20 and 2.22 and see if anything pops out
[01:40] <chalcedony> Where's this so-called fix?
[01:40] <bcurtiswx> if you're looking for commits that fix a bug, after some searching with no luck you should ask upstream
[01:40] <micahg> bcurtiswx: problem is this is 2 releases ago, upstream won't care
[01:41] <chalcedony> so the only fix is to upgrade ubuntu?
[01:41] <bcurtiswx> oh, wow yea...
[01:42] <bcurtiswx> so you're looking for an SRU i would assume?
[01:42] <micahg> bcurtiswx: I think it would be nice, but someone has to find the fix first to see how intrusive it is :)
[01:43] <syn-ack> chalcedony, seems like it
[01:43] <micahg> I added a lucid nomination, so someone should look at it
[01:43] <syn-ack> Seeing how it *is* an LTS though, I find it funny that the commit hadn't been added
[01:44] <bcurtiswx> syn-ack, why funny?
[01:45] <chalcedony> its supposed to receive ongoing support
[01:45] <micahg> syn-ack: someone needs to find the commit, there was no hint upstream, just a note that it's fixed, there are probably several thousand commits to review between 2.20 and 2.22
[01:45] <bcurtiswx> ^^ +1
[01:45] <micahg> if someone finds the commit and it's not incredibly intrusive, we can try to SRU it
[01:46] <syn-ack> micahg, That's a point I hadn't considered
[01:46] <micahg> chalcedony: BTW, is it the same in Firefox 4?
[01:46] <micahg> in theory it shouldn't matter, but I thought I'd sask
[01:46] <micahg> *ask
[01:47] <chalcedony> micahg, i have firefox 4 and yes
[01:47] <micahg> chalcedony: ok
[01:47] <micahg> chalcedony: is that from the firefox-stable PPA?
[01:47] <chalcedony> i got it from the firefox website
[01:47] <chalcedony> if that answers your question?
[01:48] <micahg> oh, do you mind trying the one from the firefox-stable PPA?
[01:48] <bcurtiswx> chalcedony, there is always a risk for PPA's but the ffx-stable one is well maintained
[01:48] <micahg> I wonder if it has to do with the build itself
[01:49]  * micahg seems to recall this bug on lucid though
[01:49] <syn-ack> I never ran lucid long enough to notice it
[01:49] <chalcedony> i never had this problem before 10.04
[01:49] <syn-ack> I didn't really care for lucid, tbh
[01:49] <micahg> right, it seems to just exist in gtk 2.20
[01:50] <micahg> there was only 1 point release for that branch and we have it
[01:51] <chalcedony> bcurtiswx, are you asking me to download firefox from somewhere else?
[01:51] <bcurtiswx> micahg had mentioned using the firefox-stable PPA
[01:52] <micahg> chalcedony: can you pastebin the output of ldd /path/to/firefox-bin?
[01:52] <micahg> chalcedony: replacing the path to firefox-bin in your firefox folder
[01:53] <chalcedony> oh i see
[02:05] <syn-ack> hrm
[02:05] <syn-ack> I don't seem to have a firefox-bin
[02:08] <chalcedony> yes i'm trying to figure that out myself
[02:08] <chalcedony> ~$ whereis firefox
[02:08] <chalcedony> firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/lib64/firefox /usr/share/firefox
[02:13] <Braiam> whereis is incomplete
[02:14] <Braiam> braiam@hpa1104x:~$ whereis firefox
[02:14] <Braiam> firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz
[02:14] <Braiam> braiam@hpa1104x:~$ locate firefox-bin
[02:14] <Braiam> /usr/lib/firefox-4.0.1/firefox-bin
[02:16] <chalcedony> ~$ locate firefox-bin
[02:16] <chalcedony> /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/firefox-3.6.16/firefox-bin
[02:16] <chalcedony> /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.16/firefox-bin
[02:20] <chalcedony> micahg, http://pastebin.com/wedwSTcK
[02:27] <chalcedony> Braiam, is that what you guys needed?
[02:28] <Braiam> chalcedony: wrong guy micahg
[02:29] <chalcedony> Braiam, syn-ack i highlighted micahg - maybe he's gone now?
[03:48] <micahg> chalcedony: yes, sorry, stepped away for a bit, that looks fine
[04:37] <erfgvthbynjurgik> Hello! Any ubuntu devs here? I'd like to report a bug
[05:09] <Braiam> somebody can confirm bug 13378 on kubuntu 11.04
[05:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 13378 in xchat (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Fails to set transparency when started by session mgr. (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13378
[11:23] <maxb> Can someone do "Target to series", "lucid" on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/583667 for me? I'm preparing a SRU to submit for sponsorship but don't have access to open the series bugtask
[11:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 583667 in bzr (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "bzr talks to edge API servers to propose merges (but not for lp: url lookups) (affects: 1) (heat: 21)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[15:10] <jtaylor> I'm looking into merging matplotlib, there is an old bug 607395 with lots of noise, should I close that one and open a new one or just edit the descrioption of the old one?
[15:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 607395 in matplotlib (Ubuntu) "Please merge matplotlib 1.0.1-1 (universe) from debian experimental main (affects: 8) (heat: 43)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607395
[15:10] <jtaylor> the problems in that bug are solved
[16:21] <micahg> jtaylor: there's 1.0.1-2 in experimental, so you can change that bug to be that, you can comment that everything's answered and prepare the merge
[16:21] <jtaylor> its in unstable now
[16:21] <micahg> jtaylor: oops, you're right, sorry, haven't had my caffeine yet :)
[16:46] <bdmurray> mvo: should the new version of update-manager appear at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/dist-upgrader-all/ ?
[16:49] <mvo> bdmurray: only in natty-updates/ at some point
[16:50] <bdmurray> mvo: and that's were update-manager checks in maverick when doing a release upgrade?
[16:50] <mvo> bdmurray: not yet, but once I update changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release - I see that u-m is now part of -updates so its safe to update
[16:51]  * mvo does that now
[16:53] <bdmurray> mvo: should that also be updated from 10.04.1 to 10.04.2?
[16:56] <mvo> bdmurray: should work now for maverick -> natty - you will get the 0.150.2 version now
[16:56] <bdmurray> mvo: great, thanks
[16:56] <mvo> thank *you*
[17:05] <jtaylor> concerning bug 779340, can a no change rebuild SRU be done before it is fixed in oneiric?
[17:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 779340 in pyfltk (Debian) (and 1 other project) "From python: import fltk fails (affects: 2) (heat: 489)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779340
[17:53] <micahg> jtaylor: yes, you might still be able to do a no change rebuild for pyfltk since the same version is in natty/oneiric, replies in #ubuntu-motu please
[18:00] <ohsix> what package generates /etc/mailname? googleearth-package is failing if it's not present and i don't remember having this problem before i did a fresh 10.10 install
[18:04] <micahg> ohsix: I don't see that file in any package from lucid on
[18:05] <ohsix> hm
[18:06] <ohsix> it should have "krang" in it, but i don't know why it went away, or why the googleearth-package thing fails without it, it's looking for a hostname to put on the package it creates; but if you set them on the commandline it still tries to read it
[18:06] <ohsix> btw, where did you search? i should probably keep that handy
[18:07] <ohsix> it's almost for sure a generated name by some package, not something in a package, i think
[18:07] <micahg> ohsix: ah, well, if it's under apt control on a previous system, you can use dpkg -S /etc/mailname
[18:08] <ohsix> yea that old system isn't around anymore; i'll just generate it
[18:08] <ohsix> i think whatever changed that brought in postfix instead of bsd-mailx for the default-mta stuff might have something to do with it
[18:11] <ohsix> should i file a bug against googleearth-package for at least not depending on the package that creates /etc/mailname (if it even exists anymore)
[18:12] <micahg> ohsix: sure
[18:12] <ohsix> ok thanks
[18:31] <ohsix> it's surprisingly intensive to build the package
[19:06] <hggdh> hum. Why 'mount' now reports all my partitions as reiserfs instead of ext4?
[19:08] <hggdh> oh. Because I sm ssh-ed into an old system...
[19:08]  * hggdh goes for a lunch and a wall where heads can be banged a bit
[19:11] <micahg> hggdh: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/ymrSRMIHy6g/
[19:14] <hggdh> micahg: perfect :-)
[19:15] <yofel> nice one :D
[20:11] <JoshuaL> How does one go when a bug report is marked as wont fix because upstream does not want it but when you have valid reasons for ubuntu to include it?
[20:12] <RedSingularity> jibel: I had this user make a new report.  Its an issue I have never run into before, any idea what the issue may be?  bug 783549
[20:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 783549 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "dist-upgrade ubuntu-minimal not found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/783549
[20:15] <yofel> JoshuaL: then the ubuntu task shouldn't be Won't Fix and add a patch to the package
[20:17] <JoshuaL> yofel, hmm ok, i have never written a patch but might be a good thing to learn, its about bug 401331 (power outage caused my system to crash + losing the file I was working on because I did not save it)
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 401331 in gedit (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Enable Autosave files option by default (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401331
[20:18] <yofel> JoshuaL: if that's an option, why not just enable it?
[20:18] <yofel> instead of changing the default
[20:19] <JoshuaL> yofel, i as a user expect by default some sort of file recovery from a text editor, office applications already do so
[20:23] <micahg> JoshuaL: Ubuntu is unlikely to carry a patch for this as the desktop team is striving to reduce patches, maybe try to get a patch accepted in Debian, although that was 2 yrs ago, you could ask the desktop team if they'd consider it
[20:23] <yofel> depends, there are editors that do that, and ones that don't. Talk to pedro_ when you see him, he set it to Won't Fix
[20:23]  * yofel uses VIM usually which has crash recovery
[20:25] <JoshuaL> micahg, yofel thanks for the input
[20:33] <prayag> Hi anyone looking into Bug 772024 in tzdata?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/772024?comments=all
[20:33] <ubot4> prayag: Error: Bug #772024 is private.
[20:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 772024 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "tzdata update keeps changing my timezone (affects: 1) (heat: 244)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772024
[20:34] <prayag> I don't think the maintainers realize that its reseting system clocks. Its a huge problem
[20:36] <prayag> I was told it needs to be dealt with upstream but I have a feeling #ubuntu should give me something
[20:36] <micahg> prayag: looks like you have multiple zones selected
[20:37] <micahg> prayag: debian 603809
[20:37] <ubot4> Debian bug 603809 in tzdata "tzdata update resets timezone" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/603809
[20:38] <roadmr> Hey, could someone help me with bug 772820? I think it should be moved to debconf, and maybe (if the bug discussion already provides enough info) it should be triaged and importance: low (although it blocks upgrading to natty, it seems like an unusual configuration)
[20:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 772820 in checkbox (Ubuntu) "package checkbox 0.11.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 264)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772820
[20:39] <prayag> micahg: Multiple time zones in tzdata?
[20:39] <micahg> debconf-show tzdata showed multiple items selected
[20:41] <prayag> micahg: You're right. Anyways to fix this?
[20:46] <prayag> micahg: You're right. Anyways to fix this? I have no idea about tzdata except from what I gathered today
[20:54] <RedSingularity> chrisccoulson: what is the package that handles logging in/out/switching users?  Would that be a part of the main gdm package in launchpad?
[20:54] <JoshuaL> When an odd window appears when changing something in ccsm, is this a compiz bug?
[21:35] <arand> If bugs are fixed in Oneiric, it's time to start marking as fixed right?
[21:36] <micahg> arand: yes, try to keep in mind if something should be SRUd when doing so
[21:37] <arand> Yeah, not applicable in this case Bug #621704
[21:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 621704 in assaultcube (Debian) (and 1 other project) "needs to be updated to version 1.1.0.4 (affects: 12) (dups: 2) (heat: 69)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621704
[21:47] <roadmr> Sorry to ask again, could someone help me with bug 772820? I think it should be moved to debconf, and maybe (if the bug discussion already provides enough info) it should be triaged and importance: low (although it blocks upgrading to natty, it seems like an unusual configuration)
[21:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 772820 in checkbox (Ubuntu) "package checkbox 0.11.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 264)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772820
[21:47] <roadmr> I can move it to debconf myself but would appreciate an opinion on whether my assessment is correct, and also on the triaged bit and low importance (which I can't set myself)
[22:48] <kblin> hey folks
[22:48] <kblin> what component do I need to file a bug against if I can't update ubuntu from an IPv6-only network?
[22:49] <micahg> kblin: where is it failing?
[22:50] <kblin> well, for one security.ubuntu.com has no AAAA DNS record
[22:51] <micahg> kblin: so, it's the DNS issue only?
[22:52] <kblin> dunno, that's what I get stuck on so far
[22:53] <kblin> kind of hard to get past "could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com'" and see what else breaks
[22:53] <kblin> because it's not like I can manually put an IPv6 address for it into my hosts file
[22:53] <micahg> kblin: hmm, yeah, let me see if there's a public place to file such issues
[22:54] <charlie-tca> there is a bug for that, but I don't have the number.
[22:54] <kblin> I'm pretty sure I already had a bug open for this, with even somebody from the infra team asking me how to reproduce it
[22:54] <kblin> but I can't find it anymore
[22:55] <kblin> it's not in the launchpad bugs related to my account, even if I include the "invalid" and "wontfix" bugs
[22:55] <charlie-tca> that was also discussed at uds - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-ipv6-healthcheck
[23:24] <dlbike76> Hi is anyone from bugcontrol online?
[23:24] <micahg> !ask | dlbike76
[23:24] <ubot4> dlbike76: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:26] <dlbike76> Is the kernel the correct package for the following bug 742376?
[23:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 742376 in ubuntu "OS freezes as soon as it recognizes an Ethernet cable being inserted (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742376
[23:30] <micahg> dlbike76: sounds like a good place to start