[01:52] <dniMretsaM> hey peeps
[02:32] <ronnoc> good evening ppl
[02:33] <jgould> Evening
[02:36] <ronnoc> jgould: what's happening tonight? Anything good?
[02:40] <jgould> I just woke up from a nap... Now to contunue setting up Linux on my MacBook as my primary OS.  I may need to do a complete wipe and install for that to work the way I want...
[02:41] <Cheri703> I'm doing virus removal on my friend's computer
[02:41] <jgould> Tell the computer to stop letting other kids stick thier hands in it's mouth...
[02:44] <ronnoc> jgould: Good luck. I've never owned anything Apple. Not necessarily by councious choice, just never worked out that way
[02:44] <jgould> Ok, a 20GB OS X partition sounds good...
[02:44] <ronnoc> Cheri703: I do that constantly at work
[02:45] <jgould> This could very well be the last Apple Computer I own...
[02:45] <canthus13> jgould: You undrank the koolaid?
[02:45] <ronnoc> lol why's that?
[02:48] <jgould> Mainly an OS issue that Apple claims is 'normal' And the system seems more reliable under Linux (not a surprise there...) My next machine will be from System76
[02:49] <canthus13> Good choice.  System76 seems to have great build quality, and everyone, including their sales people know the machines inside and out.
[02:50] <canthus13> (Everyone I've talked to, anyway... We had them at our booth at OLF...)
[02:50] <jgould> I would get this machine: http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106
[02:51] <ronnoc> yea my next lappy will be from them. I build my own PC's though.
[02:51] <canthus13> I'd prefer the serval pro.
[02:52] <canthus13> But weight isn't a big consideration for me.
[02:53] <jgould> Desktops are a little easier to work with.  My server is a PowerSpec box from Microcenter with an add in SATA card...  It works like a charm
[02:53] <canthus13> I lurve my laptop. :)
[02:55] <jgould> The Lumur weighs in at a pound less than my MacBook. but part of that is my MacBook was hallowed out of a solid block of Aluminum...
[02:56] <canthus13> Heh.
[02:56] <canthus13> Explains part of the ridiculous price.
[02:58] <jgould> structurally, you can't break this thing (unless you have a torch...) I'm not sure how well the unibody would protect the insides in a fall, but I know a friend that had her MBP pulled off her desk at school (by the magsafe adaptor, no less) that hit the ground and dented the machine...
[02:59] <jgould> I think that the sudden stop would still be a jolt
[03:00] <ronnoc> My phone's that way lol. That's why I refuse to give it up.
[03:02] <jgould> it must only call people
[03:03]  * Cheri703 sounds weird because of cold, but: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/43
[03:03] <ronnoc> nah it does everything. Funny thing is, it was a replacement for my (company issued!!) palm treo that my sister had loaned me, but it really is unbreakable. screen's too small to be useful for anything on the web, though.
[03:05] <Cheri703> o/ ronnoc via identi.ca :)
[03:05] <ronnoc> Cheri703: Loading into Amarok now :)
[03:06] <Cheri703> heh, forgive me if I'm awkward sounding...I hate doing stuff like this -_-
[03:06] <ronnoc> Cheri703: I'm sure you did awesome!
[03:06] <Cheri703> ha, talk to me after you listen to it :)
[03:09] <canthus13> Cheri703: You sound fine... Well, other than sounding like you have your thumbs up your nose. ;)
[03:09] <Cheri703> >.< thanks canthus13
[03:09] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm stuffy still
[03:10] <ronnoc> lol. I subscribed, so it's downloading the last 5 episodes (among others). So it'll be a few before I get to it.
[03:10] <ronnoc> though yours will be the 1st I listen to :)
[03:10] <Cheri703> kk
[03:16] <jgould> ok... MacOS is reinstalled on a 20GB partition,  leaving 300GB for Linux
[03:17] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:18] <ronnoc> an appropriate ratio, for sure
[03:18] <ronnoc> :)
[03:18] <jgould> Given how much time I spend in Linux versus MacOS, yes
[03:20] <ronnoc> I had to boot into XP today, for a moment, and .. wow. It felt so clunky and foreign. I smiled and re-booted. lol.
[03:21]  * canthus13 kept Win7 on a 30GB partition 'til his warranty ran out.
[03:21] <canthus13> After that, there was no reason to have it.
[03:21] <jgould> I need the Mac OS for firmware updates...  that's the only reason it gets 20GB...
[03:24] <jgould> Is there anything special that the 'USA-Macintosh' keyboard layout gets me that I don't already have?
[03:24] <ronnoc> Cheri703: What was your impression of the representation of Kubuntu at UDS?
[03:25] <Cheri703> there was a fair bit of it, I wasn't in too many of the sessions involving it, but there was a good chunk
[03:28] <ronnoc> Cheri703: I'm kind of excited about the potential of (maybe?) Ubuntu and Kubuntu people working more together with Unity's basis evolving towards QT. Right now, we can't even get a working Ubuntu One in Kubuntu. But things seem to be looking up lately.
[03:28] <Cheri703> yeah, there was a LOT of Qt stuff there, and Qt people there too
[03:28] <Cheri703> so...
[03:28] <Cheri703> who knows
[03:29] <jgould> any represnsentation from lubuntu?
[03:30] <ronnoc> yepp. we'll see
[03:30] <Cheri703> yeah, there was a whole session on whether they'll become an official "flavor" and the answer was yes :)
[03:30] <jgould> Yay!  I like Lubuntu.
[03:31] <jgould> right now, I'm installing the alternate install CD to build this thing the way I want it
[03:32] <jgould> My server install is using close to a GB of RAM?  970Mb total, 955 used...  that sounds kind of high
[03:34] <canthus13> jgould: Depends.  How much of it is buffers? (free -m)
[03:36] <jgould> buffers 226, cached 667
[03:36] <canthus13> buffers and cache use up most available memory, but don't really count against the total.
[03:36] <canthus13> They get freed up when programs need more memory.
[03:39] <jgould> if I install from the alternate CD, shouldn't I get a choice over what gets installed?  I don't want Unity (or gnome for that matter...)
[03:39] <canthus13> Hmm... Not sure.
[03:40] <ronnoc> Cheri703: Upgrade to business class. lol. +1.
[03:40] <Cheri703> heh
[03:41] <Cheri703> this was my first time leaving the country
[03:41] <ronnoc> really? you could have picked a shorter 1st time trip. lol.
[03:42] <ronnoc> Hawaii would be no sweat for you now :)
[03:42] <canthus13> Cheri703: Never even been to Canada?
[03:44]  * jgould now wonders how to get a minimal install cd...
[03:44] <Cheri703> nope
[03:44] <Cheri703> heh, yeah ronnoc
[03:44] <Cheri703> it was crazy
[03:45] <canthus13> jgould: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:46] <ronnoc> Cheri703: Very well done
[03:47] <Cheri703> thanks. I was anxious about it
[03:48] <jgould> canthus13: I had actually had just navigated to the mini.iso on the cdimage server
[03:49] <ronnoc> Cheri703: are you shy by nature?
[03:49] <Cheri703> it's weird
[03:49]  * jgould would have never guessed
[03:50] <Cheri703> I'm ok with one on one, or even like a few people in a large gathering type of thing (I did perfectly fine at the "meet n greet" and such) I don't like having a lot of people looking at/listening to me at once...
[03:50] <Cheri703> like public speaking...I *can* do it, but I feel all weird/anxious about it, hate having my picture taken, etc
[03:50] <Cheri703> dunno
[03:51] <ronnoc> Cheri703: I think that's called "Stage fright" and it's insanely common :)
[03:51] <Cheri703> well, it varies in intensity
[03:52] <jgould> I hate having things in my pockets, is that normal?  (I've almost taken to carrying a purse...)
[03:52] <Cheri703> I love pockets, but I carry too much stuff these days
[03:52] <Cheri703> jgould: fanny pack :D or nerd holster
[03:52] <ronnoc> yes I meant to say that - it's a pretty broad brush. FWIW one could never tell from the podcast though. so...well done!
[03:52] <Cheri703> ah, ok, thanks :)
[03:53] <Cheri703> jgould: http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=holster&x=0&y=0
[03:53] <Cheri703> :D
[03:55] <jgould> I would look really funny at work with that... My solution is phone on the hip, some pens and my keys in my pocket. Taht's it
[03:56] <Cheri703> heh, yeah, I find the nerd holsters ridiculous (hence my calling them nerd holsters)
[03:56] <Cheri703> do you / can you carry a laptop bag?
[03:56]  * canthus13 carries a laptop backpack.
[03:57] <jgould> Yes, I do.  It's a backpack that holds everything.  (and may, depending on if work issues me a laptop, gain a laptop...)
[04:00] <Cheri703> need to reboot, back in a minute
[04:01] <jgould> see how she is... ;)
[04:02] <Cheri703> just restarted x, hopefully that solved the issue
[04:02] <jgould> what issue?
[04:03] <jgould> I thought that was how you fixed things in Windows...
[04:03] <Cheri703> my audio gets crappy sometimes, like crackly and weird
[04:03] <Cheri703> my desktop does it too sometimes, right after a reboot, audio is weird, if I reboot again, it's fine
[04:03] <jgould> Mine's done that
[04:04] <ronnoc> can't say mine has
[04:05] <jgould> It was the Mac Mini...  (Which is fully supported out of hte box now. XD
[04:10]  * jgould orders a pizza
[04:11]  * ronnoc is thinking we need a kubuntu podcast :D
[04:12] <Cheri703> you are probably more than welcome to talk about kubuntu on it
[04:12] <jgould> Heh
[04:14] <jgould> We need a Lubuntu podcast as well... XD
[04:14] <Cheri703> start one!
[04:14] <jgould> I had a coworker ask me once why I carried so much stuff on  my belt...  I told her that I really didn't carry that much (it was my phone and keys...)
[04:15] <jgould> I dont' know the first thing about podcasting
[04:15] <ronnoc> Cheri703: That might be a good start
[04:15] <Cheri703> nor do I
[04:17] <ronnoc> I don't think it's too hard
[04:17] <jgould> I know you talk, but beyond that, I know nothing.
[04:18] <ronnoc> technology-wise
[04:19] <jgould> You want to know an option that I think is awesome for the machines from System76: You can buy a car adaptor~
[04:21] <canthus13> Heh. Dell has that, too.. of course, dell will try to sell you everything on the site as you go out the door...
[04:21] <jgould> I know
[04:22] <jgould> O.o  My new install downloaded a package called "Command-not-found"
[04:22] <canthus13> jgould: heh. that was odd the first time I saw it...
[04:22] <canthus13> It's the program that suggests packages if you type something that's not installed.
[04:23] <jgould> That's what I just thought it was
[04:23] <jgould> Ok, I've been wearing glasses for 28 years,  you would think that I would know not to touch the lenses by now...
[04:24] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:28] <jgould> Just saying
[04:28] <jgould> ok,  the damn pizza needs to show up
[04:32] <jgould> hmmm.  I get Grub, but no boot...
[04:34] <Cheri703> my brother was having grub problems
[04:35] <jgould> Maybe he should go find some grub then... ;)
[04:35]  * jgould scratches his head
[04:35] <canthus13> my lawn has grub problems. :/
[04:36] <jgould> Your computer is spreading to your lawn?
[04:36] <canthus13> Heh. my grass has huge dead spots from grubs eating the roots.
[04:36] <ronnoc> sounds like a Mac....
[04:36]  * jgould pokes ronnoc in the side
[04:36] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:36]  * ronnoc points to the "spreading to the lawn" part :p
[04:37] <jgould> Heh
[04:38] <jgould> I didnt' set up my network and it still works... O.o
[04:38] <ronnoc> I'm listening to The Shaft Podcast (about the indie game Minecraft) right now. Must be a podcast kind of night. anyone here ever tried the game?
[04:39] <canthus13> ronnoc: It's boring to me. :/  Several guys at work are nuts about it, though.
[04:40] <jgould> I've looked at it, but nothing else
[04:40] <jgould> could be farmville
[04:40] <ronnoc> i was bored at first...but then it hit me. now I love it.
[04:40] <ronnoc> 2 million people so far play this game that was totally indie and made by one guy. pretty darn amazing IMO.
[04:41] <jgould> ok, reisntalled grub, now lets see if it will work.
[04:41] <ronnoc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zTtwXQ5PJM <--- gives you an idea of what can be done, if interested
[04:42] <ronnoc> jgould: good luck
[04:42] <jgould> now for the fun part: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <jgould> XD
[04:45] <jgould> and we're up
[04:45] <canthus13> that was quick.
[04:45] <jgould> it's still downloading, but that's progress over a few minutes ago
[04:48] <jgould> I have two diffrent passwords on three diffrent machiens that I own...  This needs resolved...
[04:49] <ronnoc> wb
[04:56] <jgould> ok,  taht was nice
[04:57] <jgould> stupid router
[04:57] <canthus13> eh?
[04:58] <jgould> the router hiccuped and took out the network
[05:00]  * canthus13 <3 his dd-wrt
[05:04] <jgould> The current router is an apple Airport extreme taht everythign seems to knock off the air...
[05:07] <canthus13> Airports seem to hate non-mac equipment...
[05:07] <jgould> I *have* mac equipment
[05:08] <Cheri703> hehe
[05:08] <canthus13> Heh.
[05:08] <jgould> I think it's all these AT&T Uverse boxes around us
[05:09]  * canthus13 hates dealing with Airports. Some idiot can have an airport, 2 macs, and a windows box.  If the windows box won't talk to the airport, it's OUR fault, not the almighty apple hardware that can do no wrong... :/
[05:09] <canthus13> jgould: Get rid of Uvers. :)
[05:09] <canthus13> +e
[05:09] <jgould> I don't hve Uverse
[05:09] <jgould> look at my hostname
[05:10] <canthus13> Ah. :)
[05:10] <jgould> I had Uverse, but they wouldn't give me the speed I was paying for...
[05:10] <canthus13> TWC is almost as bad from what I've heard.  We get U-verse refugees all the time, and TWC refugees from our overbuild areas.
[05:11] <canthus13> From what I understand, the bandwidth from U-Verse goes towards all your services, so if you turn on a TV, you lose part of your bandwidth.  If you have 5 TVs tuned to 5 channels, you lose nearly all your bandwidth.
[05:12] <jgould> makes sense.  We only had internet
[05:28] <jgould> What all does the 'adminstrator' account type give you access to if you go to users and groups under the system menu?
[05:32] <jgould> Ok... Why can't I grant administrative access to something..
[05:34] <canthus13> jgould: because you're not admin?
[05:34]  * Cheri703 has a headache :(
[05:34] <jgould> I'm getting a headache
[05:34] <canthus13> Cheri703: Go to bed, catch up on sleep. :/
[05:34] <jgould> I tried setting my self to admin... that didn't help
[05:35] <Cheri703> I should, yes, but husband is playing a game with "teamspeak" and thus is noisy and annoying
[05:35] <canthus13> Cheri703: Start a massive torrent, hog all the bandwidth.
[05:35] <Cheri703> and I am probably going to try to sleep in recliner tonight (having acid reflux issues).
[05:35] <canthus13> ..or block the ports for teamsleep.
[05:35] <canthus13> ...speak.
[05:35] <Cheri703> hehe I have at least one running, but I'm leaning toward speed vs quantity
[05:36] <jgould> teamsleep XD
[05:37] <jgould> I'm tempted to do a no no and add my user account to the root groups
[05:37] <canthus13> hard to sleep with a whole team in teh bed.. ;)
[05:37] <jgould> 0s
[05:37] <jgould> XD
[05:39] <ronnoc> heh
[05:39] <Cheri703> he says he'll be quiet, we'll see
[05:39] <canthus13> Stuff a sock in  his mouth.
[05:40] <Cheri703> the one thing I don't like about transmission: no option for queuing torrents, in utorrent you could have it run them consecutively...transmission is either running or paused
[05:41] <Cheri703> ok, well, looks like there's an update available, perhaps now it can :)
[05:42] <canthus13> Cheri703: You can set priorities. (Well, on individual files, anyway...)
[05:42] <Cheri703> you can on the torrents, but still not a "only do one at a time, and then run the next upon completion)
[05:42] <canthus13> that reminds me.. I need to get more familiar with rtorrent.
[05:46] <ronnoc> Cheri703: KTorrent can due that. It's Queue Manager is it's own section. Doubt you want KDE apps on your machine though :p
[05:46] <Cheri703> I have like ONE and I have all of the assorted kde stuff, though I am planning to play with quassel at some point
[05:46] <Cheri703> I think this newer version has something for queuing
[05:47] <Cheri703> am looking
[05:47] <ronnoc> well if you already have all the kde-libs, might as well try all your options out to see what you like ;)
[05:48] <Cheri703> true, but I like my web interface for transmission
[05:48] <ronnoc> quassel has a client-server option I want to set up soon
[05:48] <Cheri703> yeah, that's what is attractive to me
[05:49] <ronnoc> and ktorrent has a web interface as a plugin that just needs enabled to use
[05:51] <ronnoc> i'm not sure, but my suspicion is that Quassel needs compiled from source to enable the stand-alone backend. no big deal though.
[05:58] <Cheri703> so I realized that on the machine I do my downloads, I didn't have the kde stuff, but it's ok, because if I do quassel, I'll need it anyway
[06:05] <Cheri703> ronnoc: I'm looking for this web plugin but not finding it
[06:06] <Cheri703> that is VERY important to me
[06:09] <Cheri703> ah, found it
[06:12] <ronnoc> unexpected reboot >.<
[06:14] <Cheri703> I found the plugin
[06:14] <Cheri703> did find one thing I don't like about the web interface...
[06:14] <Cheri703> can't upload multiple torrents at once
[06:15] <Cheri703> have to do them all individually
[06:15] <ronnoc> for which client?
[06:16] <Cheri703> ktorrent
[06:17] <Cheri703> also it won't let me set upload limit to 0
[06:17] <ronnoc> hmmm I never spent a whole lot of time in the web interface TBH
[06:18] <ronnoc> just to check on the status of already running torrents on occasion
[06:19] <Cheri703> since I run all of my downloads to my server, I use the web interface to add from my netbook...pretty much exclusively
[06:19] <ronnoc> ahh well, that certainly makes sense
[06:20] <Cheri703> and like tonight, I was gone so I have 16 torrents to add...it gets tedious and time consuming to add each one individually vs click, shift click, open
[06:20] <Cheri703> and done
[06:23] <Cheri703> :( web interface also doesn't show time remaining
[06:24]  * jgould cusses
[06:25] <ronnoc> sounds like it's fairly minimal then...
[06:26] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm going to keep looking for other options
[06:27] <jgould> Hmm...  How do I amke eth0 a managed interface
[06:29] <jgould> never mind.  The almighty google helped
[06:33] <ronnoc> Cheri703: there is an option in the settings to watch a certain folder for torrents to start - could thatbe of help?
[06:35] <ronnoc> it's the "Scan Folder" plug-in
[06:35] <Cheri703> not if the folder is on my netbook
[06:35] <Cheri703> when using transmission, I download torrent files locally then add via webui to desktop download
[06:36] <ronnoc> gotcha. why so many torrents (if I can ask)
[06:36]  * Cheri703 doesn't have cable
[06:37] <Cheri703> generally it's only a few per day, but I was gone for a week
[06:38]  * ronnoc ronnoc nods in an understanding motion
[06:39] <ronnoc> oops. no there's not two of me -.-
[06:39] <jgould> are you sure?
[06:40] <ronnoc> hmm.. that's like asking if I'm sure I'm awake right now. i think so...but it's impossible to prove :)
[06:40] <jgould> Heh
[06:49] <jgould> Hmm... Turning on the driver for the trackpad disables it
[06:49] <Cheri703> I'm now trying "deluge" it's pretty sweet
[06:50] <Cheri703> has some of the missing features from both ktorrent and transmission
[06:50] <Cheri703> and the webui is VERY comprehensive
[06:51] <ronnoc> in the repo's? if so I might give it a shot.
[06:51] <Cheri703> no, but you can download from their site or add the ppa (I went the ppa route)
[06:52] <Cheri703> http://deluge-torrent.org/
[06:57]  * jgould is about to pull his hair out
[07:02] <ronnoc> thx Cheri I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm out tonight. Sweet dreams all!
[07:06] <jgould> I need a machine that was not built by apple to run Ubuntu on...
[07:07] <Cheri703> jgould: I saw TONS of mac laptops at UDS
[07:07] <Cheri703> so it can be done...
[07:07] <Cheri703> what issues are you having?
[07:08] <jgould> Now (this is a new issue in 20 something installs) on a MBP 8,1 Enabling the multitouch driver for the trackpad acutally disables it...
[07:11] <jgould> heh: Note: when you run into problems, please think for a moment, before asking. e.g. when ubuntu says, that it doesn't know "git", than that is something you can probably figure out without asking questions here...
[07:11] <Cheri703> hehe
[07:11] <Cheri703> well, good luck, tomorrow if I have a bit of time (tons to do), I will lend my google fu to the cause
[07:12] <jgould> You have good google fu
[07:12] <jgould> I take it that you are heading to bed?
[07:12] <Cheri703> yeah
[07:12] <Cheri703> my brain hurts
[07:12] <jgould> Ok
[07:12] <Cheri703> ttyl
[07:12] <jgould> Get some sleep so you can share UDS stuff with us!
[07:12] <jgould> Night
[13:38] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[16:37] <Cheri703> running the upgrade to 10.10 on desktop...normally I'd do a clean install, but really don't want to deal with re-setup if avoidable
[16:40] <canthus13> Cheri703: I like 10.10... I wish it was an LTS. :(
[16:41] <canthus13> (aside from the minor annoyance of having to switch to a usable theme, it's pretty decent.. although my old wireless card developed a slight hiccup in 10.10)
[16:42] <Cheri703> yeah, I keep running into things I want to install updated versions of, and I have to update HUGE swaths of dependencies :/
[16:42] <Cheri703> so giving up on 10.04
[16:42] <Cheri703> I tried to upgrade when it came out, but it didn't support my video card...that's been resolved, so no real reason holding me back other than apathy
[16:53] <canthus13> I don't really trust upgrades.
[16:54] <Cheri703> well, I mean I tried to install 10.10, from scratch
[16:54] <Cheri703> I generally do clean installs, but...figured I'd try, why not? if I'm going to be reinstalling anyway, might as well give this a shot first
[16:56] <Cheri703> oh, also: probably going to do post office tomorrow, unless a sudden wave of "OMG I WANT TO BE ON MY FEET DOING THINGS!" hits me (not likely...post office requires a fair bit of walking, and my feet are still tired
[17:11] <canthus13> Cheri703: My wife upgraded from karmic to lucid, had all sorts of weird little issues.
[17:12] <canthus13> The biggest one being a total loss of video when switching users...
[17:12] <Cheri703> yeah, I did in the past, but *shrug* I only use this machine for very specific things: torrents, movies, gnucash, maaaaybe quassel-core at some point
[17:12] <Cheri703> that's pretty much it
[18:35] <thafreak> What'd I miss
[18:41] <thafreak> Sooo....I guess for this class  I'm taking this summer, I have to design instructional material on a topic I'm interested in
[18:41] <thafreak> and then teach it to some one
[18:41] <thafreak> I'm thinking, an intro to linux course....
[18:41] <thafreak> and I could possibly teach it at one of the ubuntu hours...
[18:47] <thafreak> Are there any specific topics or areas people seem to be interested in?
[18:48]  * Derath-Srvr shrugs
[18:48] <Derath-Srvr> I'm already teaching an intro to linux class (basically the first half of the Linux+ exam)
[18:50] <canthus13> thafreak: How to stop people from blackmailing you with nude pictures while you were drunk that one time.
[18:52] <canthus13> thafreak: Or, more seriously, how to use aircrack to recover your WEP key.
[19:02] <MarkDude> Hello Ohio.
[19:02]  * MarkDude was wondering about how you folks started your podcast
[19:03] <paultag> MarkDude: smk does that stuff
[19:03] <paultag> MarkDude: also hai :)
[19:03] <Cheri703> hey MarkDude
[19:04] <MarkDude> Hello Cheri703 paultag
[19:04] <canthus13> MarkDude: Pick up a mic, hit record. :)
[19:05] <MarkDude> Well thats about where I am
[19:05] <MarkDude> we were thinking of using Ustream and posting to youtube also
[19:05] <canthus13> Hmm... Which one is it that's a bit like cakewalk? Audacity or audacious?
[19:06] <MarkDude> We applied for the Youtube special-ass-we-are-a-nonprofit-streaming-specialness
[19:06] <canthus13> Audacity.
[19:06] <MarkDude> Audacity rocks- and is good for making ringtones
[19:09] <MarkDude> paultag, I read your post on being disappointed by Canonical- what was the reaction to it?
[19:09] <MarkDude> It was very good and concise
[19:09] <paultag> MarkDude: mostly positive
[19:09] <paultag> MarkDude: Bacon's calling me today to talk about it
[19:09] <MarkDude> lo
[19:09] <MarkDude> lol
[19:09] <canthus13> mmmm... bacon...
[19:10] <paultag> MarkDude: we'll see anyway
[19:10] <MarkDude> Count the number of times- he says the words, rocks, rockin' , and the word dude
[19:10] <MarkDude> Its like a drinking game
[19:10] <paultag> haha
[19:10] <paultag> I'll keep a tally
[19:11] <MarkDude> He lives like 10 minutes away from me- its amazing how quickly he has his own following from the locals
[19:12] <MarkDude> I know the comparison is not perfect- but you can include the F word and how they are decent about rewarding helper peoples
[19:13] <paultag> MarkDude: sure
[19:13] <MarkDude> Your point on shirts was very true- they have vaalue beyond their normal worth
[19:13] <paultag> MarkDude: I had a better idea :)
[19:13] <MarkDude> Just like the whole getting a shirt in your size
[19:13] <paultag> it's actually mostly kickass
[19:13] <paultag> it has like 4 ways of being awesome
[19:14]  * MarkDude wears medium- does not like L or XL shirts- 
[19:15] <MarkDude> Make sure to ask him if he will be doing a heavy metal show in Ohio anytime soon- since he wont- you will be off the hook
[19:15] <MarkDude> :)
[19:16] <paultag> haha
[19:16] <paultag> ohio, the land of heavy metal
[19:16] <Derath-Srvr> Mark: we have the same drinking game with paul and the f-bomb :)
[19:16] <paultag> truf!
[19:16] <paultag> I do let loose with that guy
[19:17] <Derath-Srvr> you should see when we grep'd jacob's log files at the Meetup
[19:17] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: oh christ, really?
[19:17] <paultag> ugh, now I need to check this
[19:17] <Derath-Srvr> lol Yeah
[19:18] <Derath-Srvr> granted, goes back to 2008 or so...
[19:18] <paultag> mine are not as long, I only have a few months
[19:18] <paultag> bug it'll be a cool sample
[19:19] <paultag> wow!
[19:19] <paultag> that's actually pretty cool
[19:19] <paultag> grep fuck . -R  | grep \<paultag | wc -l
[19:19] <paultag> 100
[19:19] <Derath-Srvr> close to about 150?
[19:19] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:19] <paultag> Ah, shit
[19:19] <paultag> grep fuck . -R  | grep \<paultag | wc -l
[19:19] <paultag> 101
[19:19] <Derath-Srvr> make that 101
[19:19] <Derath-Srvr> make that 102
[19:20] <paultag> that includes PMs
[19:20] <paultag> so I guess that's a bit skewed
[19:20] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:20] <Derath-Srvr> grep my smirks...
[19:20] <paultag> Hold on a sec
[19:20] <Derath-Srvr> since someone pointed that out lol
[19:20] <paultag> grep fuck . -R  | wc -l
[19:20] <paultag> 709
[19:20] <paultag> That means that I have accounted for 1/7th of all swearing i've seen on IRC
[19:21] <Derath-Srvr> LMAO!
[19:21] <Derath-Srvr> Unless there's someone with a higher count, that still puts you on top
[19:21] <paultag> #winning
[19:21] <paultag> $ grep :\) . -R  | grep \<paultag | wc -l
[19:21] <paultag> 897
[19:21] <paultag> That's kinda interesting. I do :) a lot
[19:22] <paultag> $ grep :\) . -R  | wc -l
[19:22] <paultag> 24302
[19:22] <paultag> Oh christ, guess not
[19:22] <Derath-Srvr> hehe
[19:22] <paultag> I've seen 24,000 smilies on IRC
[19:22] <paultag> Holy shit, batman!
[19:22] <paultag> Oh wait! This is not counting channels I'm voiced in!
[19:22] <paultag> Hold on, that fuck count is way low
[19:23] <Cheri703> so I'm going to disconnect my quassel client, and reconnect with quasseldroid, this'll be interesting
[19:23] <Derath-Srvr> Hmmm... wonder if someone has a python script to pull stats on things like this...
[19:23] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: Oh, I'm sure :)
[19:23] <paultag> Oh wait, I had one for here
[19:23] <paultag> Oh poop. He's gone.
[19:23] <paultag> Oh well
[19:24] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[19:24] <canthus13> Fuckkk.... nmap comprehensive scans are sloooooow.
[19:24] <paultag> $ grep fuck . -R | grep paultag\> | wc -l
[19:24] <paultag> 354
[19:24] <canthus13> paultag: most of them you.
[19:24] <paultag> that's the real count
[19:24] <canthus13> oh. all of them you.  HOw many total?
[19:24] <paultag> canthus13: 709
[19:25] <canthus13> Wow. almost exactly half. :)
[19:25] <paultag> .499 :)
[19:25] <paultag> that's not bad at all
[19:25] <Cheri703> bah, phone is being dumb
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> Half of all that you have seen have been from you... hmmm
[19:26] <MarkDude> :)We are not really allowed to swear in Ubuntu Cali
[19:26] <Derath-Srvr> Our bot has vanished to give those warnings ;)
[19:27] <MarkDude> Heck its Cali- so it is a bit PC
[19:27] <Derath-Srvr> iirc, all channels are supposed to be "profanity free"... or at least reasonably so...
[19:27] <MarkDude> Courtney was at a meeting- got offended at how her language was limited, her quit message was *later bitches*
[19:28] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:28] <MarkDude> Quoting my Mom- no less
[19:29] <Derath-Srvr> bbiab
[19:29] <MarkDude> We have an off topic channel now- its confusing to have channels I can swear in - and make bad jokes- every so often - I will confuse the channels
[19:30] <MarkDude> And hilarity ensues
[19:30]  * MarkDude has a George Carlin view on swearing
[19:31] <canthus13> MarkDude: Heh. Most of the kids that show up in channels seem to have way worse language than me.
[19:32] <MarkDude> lol
[19:32] <MarkDude> These kids nowadays- with their ouchie words
[19:32] <MarkDude> and their rule 34- scary shit
[19:43] <canthus13> MarkDude: Rule 34! :D
[19:43] <paultag> oh booo
[19:43]  * canthus13 demands it for Kurig Coffee makers. NAO!
[19:43] <paultag> oh jeez
[19:43] <canthus13> heh.
[19:44] <canthus13> paultag: Speaking of which... Any progress on the linux powered coffee pot?
[19:44] <paultag> canthus13: http://cupoporn.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/keurig-coffee/
[19:44] <paultag> canthus13: nosir, i've not found one yet
[19:45] <canthus13> MarkDude: I confuse #ubuntu-offtopic and ##club-ubuntu on occasion. I'm surprised I haven't been banned from -offtopic yet.
[19:46] <canthus13> paultag: THat particular coffee pot crashes almost as often as windows.
[19:46] <paultag> canthus13: hahaha
[19:46] <MarkDude> lol
[19:46] <canthus13> my wife has one.  It'll lock up and you have to pull the water tank, unplug it for 15 minutes, plug it back in, then put the tank back in.... sometimes you have to reseat the tank again after that procedure.
[19:48] <canthus13> yay... lunchtime.
[19:49]  * MarkDude would get mad with rebooting my coffee
[19:49] <MarkDude> give me my go-juice NOW
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> back
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> Rule 34?
[19:55] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: if it exists, there is porn of it. That's rule 34
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> Ah
[19:55] <paultag> it's never been proven wrong :)
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> First I've heard of it
[19:55] <paultag> you just have to ask the right people
[19:55] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: it's an internet classic
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> ewwww,,,
[19:56] <MarkDude> Its sooo wrong
[19:56] <paultag> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rule-34#.TdFzSqXaUbw
[19:56]  * MarkDude is glad his childhood did not have this stuff
[19:57] <paultag> http://xkcd.com/305/
[19:57] <MarkDude> I mean we had cave paintings- and black and white movies
[19:57] <paultag> MarkDude: mine did :)
[19:57] <MarkDude> once talkies came out- that was great
[19:57] <MarkDude> Know Your meme is freaking great
[20:01] <MarkDude> Their funniest was the magnets deal- http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fcking-magnets-how-do-they-work
[20:13] <canthus13> Cheri703: Forget afghanistan.. I think I can get sully into the cockpit of a B-1 bomber. :)
[20:13] <Cheri703> heh
[20:14] <canthus13> Cheri703: A high school buddy of mine flies one out of Dyess AFB in texas...
[20:14] <Cheri703> very cool
[20:14] <Cheri703> I will try to get to the post office tomorrow
[20:15] <canthus13> cool.
[20:28] <canthus13> blargh.  Armitage isn't showing the hosts detected by nmap. :/
[20:28] <canthus13> ...wrong channel.
[20:30] <Derath-Srvr> canthus13: out of curosity, what's friend's first name? I know a pilot out there as well
[20:30] <canthus13> Rick
[20:31] <Derath-Srvr> lol Well, not him... lol
[20:31] <Derath-Srvr> although it's interesting, that we know 2 diff pilots out there
[20:32] <canthus13> Your guy fly B-1s?
[20:32] <Derath-Srvr> Yep
[20:32] <Derath-Srvr> Brian
[20:32] <canthus13> Hmm. Dyess is the main B-1 base in the US.
[20:33] <Derath-Srvr> If Rick says no, I can see if I can ask Brian to take a pic...
[20:33] <Derath-Srvr> True, didn't think of it that way, I knew there were only like 3 bases they sat in... but knew Dyess was main
[20:35] <canthus13> They also fly out of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean... Which is where most of the bombing runs in Afghanistan are launched from... and I believe they also have a sizable base in Guam.
[20:36]  * Derath-Srvr shrugs
[20:45] <thafreak> http://kaizer.se/wiki/kupfer/
[20:45] <thafreak> a gnome do type clone, but in python instead of mono
[21:41] <canthus13> ...why does my media server show an open afp port?
[21:55] <deejoe> for great Apple justice?
[21:56] <canthus13> I'm just curious.  I built this server with a debian netinst and installed a base system.  I don't recall installing afpd, and have no need for it. How do I find out what installed it?
[21:56] <dmcglone> sut up
[21:56]  * canthus13 can't imagine nfs depending on it...
[21:56] <canthus13> sut up?
[22:09] <dniMretsaM> hi guys
[22:12] <Cheri703> hi
[22:12] <dniMretsaM> sup?
[22:12] <Cheri703> not much
[22:31] <canthus13> I'm gonna start calling him Flash.
[22:37] <Cheri703> he's....interesting