[00:44] wrst: sorry, shame on me [00:44] I forgot to ask your your doing [00:57] ha ha i'm doing great [00:58] glad to hear it [00:58] * cyberanger ponders how I should file this bug, leaning on i for irratating [00:59] wrst: this is kinda a hold up on a few projects, all of which involve customizing a live disc [00:59] unfortunately [01:04] cyberanger: you are over my head :) [01:05] but cyberanger one thing I can say today is that ssh is worth any hassle if any of running linux [01:08] ssh is awesome, you should use it more often [01:09] ssh wrst@127.0.0.1 -t irssi [01:09] ;-) [01:10] ha ha transfered over 7GB of files via the internet to my house over night [01:10] * wrst sees its pizza time [01:10] programmer food [01:10] just don't have it slid under the door like Mr. Gates did to his programmers [01:14] what did he do? [01:16] oh and cyberanger how did linuxman410 get going? [01:18] the old joke of why programmers like pizza is that Bill Gates would lock his programmers up in their office and would slide pizza under their door [01:18] and I think he got it going [01:18] last I heard metioned IceWN [01:18] so I think he's worked it out [01:23] cool certainly sounded like he needed to do a minimal install of some sort [01:50] .weather cookeville tn [01:50] Overcast ☁, 59.0℉ (15℃), 29.76in (1004mb), Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KCHA 23:53Z [01:52] .wik wrst [01:53] "WRST-FM (90.3 FM) licensed to Oshkosh, Wisconsin, is the student managed radio station located at the University of Wisconsin–Oshkosh." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRST-FM [01:53] wrst: suprised it lists CHA over Nashville [01:53] or an even closer station [01:54] * cyberanger still finds it funny how wrst tried to hide his radio station from us [01:54] chris4585: do you happen to know where I could find all bug reports for mksquashfs version 4.2 [01:55] sorry I have no idea [01:58] chris4585: it's just worked for you? [01:59] wish i had a radio station cyberanger [02:00] * cyberanger finds this intresting, 3 uses in 4 years, and none were really flawless, however the others worked when I told it to use one processer, years ago [02:00] wrst: well, there is always shoutcast [02:01] cyberanger, yeah [02:01] it's not radio, but it's still awesome [02:01] chris4585: how often have you used it, in the past 4 years? [02:01] many, many, many times [02:02] it was always using my script though, so I don't know it very well [02:02] but I've must of done it at least 100 times [02:03] you'd know if it failed in this manner, all the times I ran it, it would hang [02:03] however telling it to use one processor fixed it before (last 3 times I used it was in high school, 2007-2008) [02:05] chris4585: is it the same version since it last worked? no apt-get upgrade on it, if it is, may I have the version (mksquashfs -version) [02:06] idk, just kinda hard to narrow down much at this point, I hate filing bug reports that are this light on details [02:06] have you tried removing the file it appears to be stuck on? [02:07] it's about as detailed as describing the appollo missions as three guys sitting on a rocket to the moon currently [02:07] o.o [02:07] chris4585: no, due to the file, it's a bit critical [02:07] /var/spool/cron [02:08] could it be a permissions issue? [02:08] I could do it for kicks I suppose, tarball it first, so as to help with the bug [02:08] hard to believe that, but a possibility I suppose [02:08] sudo should ensure otherwise [02:09] (/var/spool is higher permissions than your avg user, and cron is system critical, same story, lemme see what ls -l says) [02:12] it's not a file, but a directory [02:12] root owned, but with sudo on it, it should either permissions fail or work, not hang [02:12] hrm [02:13] tarball'd it, removed it from where I'm running squashfs [02:13] it's hanging at the same place each time [02:13] at least it's consistant [02:14] I do like consistancy http://www.despair.com/consistency.html [02:37] lol yes [02:38] it's only a virtue if your not a screwup [02:46] and this is consistantly screwing up [02:46] hrm [02:46] I doubt impaticence is part of it, waited 3 hours for a blank folder [02:47] and I've let it run overnight once too [02:47] for it to get to 98% in 30 minutes or less, and lock up for over 3 hours [02:47] ugh, perhaps it's time to take this to #ubuntu or somewhere [02:57] hello orangeninja [03:06] cyberanger: what's the problem? [03:18] Juzzy-: mksquashfs seems to want to hang in the same spot consistantly [03:20] chris4585: update: seems to have frozen on /var/run this time, which I think is further along than /var/spool's hangup [03:20] mksquashfs: file edit/var/run/utmp, uncompressed size 0 bytes [03:20] mksquashfs: directory edit/var/run/wicd inode 0xbd217165d [03:20] mksquashfs: directory edit/var/run inode 0xbd217167d [03:20] you're needing local rootsquad support? [03:20] and that output actually makes me wonder if the hangup is a collision somehow [03:20] squash* [03:21] Juzzy-: no, at least not a part of this issue I think (since squashfs has been in debian and ubuntu's kernel for over two years now) just a crucial step in remastering a live cd is mksquashfs [03:22] hm weird [03:23] and actually, in another project or two as well [03:23] openwrt customization [03:23] phew [03:23] i found my karaoke mp3 collection [03:23] got any system of a down in there [03:24] jeezzzzz [03:24] we have a party sceduled for 2 weeks [03:24] and I have 80gb of mp3s i couldnt find [03:24] phew [03:24] i went through a pile of hdds [03:24] moving them to my media center :D [03:25] wow, not good [03:25] perhaps you should rsync that to a few backup drives too, JIC [03:26] media center = 4 x 2tb raid 5 [03:26] /dev/md1 5.4T 2.4T 3.0T 45% /mnt/raid5 [03:26] /dev/md0 20G 5.1G 14G 28% / [03:26] that's raid 0 on all 4 drives, heh [03:27] and all of them have active partiions and bootloaders on it [03:27] (karaoke for system of a down isn't easy, tried BYOB (bring your own bombs) on Gutar Hero IV and I could barely do it, if I was doing it without the background of the track, no way) [03:28] Juzzy-: wow [03:31] Juzzy-: so you do have a second rig in case of any failures I hope [03:38] nope [03:38] it's all redudnat [03:39] oh bleh [03:39] i said raid0 [03:39] meant raid1 [03:40] oh wow [03:40] 108gb left [03:40] so im not sure how big it is, thought it was only 80 [03:40] guess its around 110 or so [03:41] I havnt had a party in 2 yrs, so i need to refresh with some newer muziq i guess :/ [03:47] wouldn't hurt [03:51] sucky thing, I couldn't tell you 1 single post 2008 song :/ [03:52] Juzzy-: if it's a mainstream one, idk if you'd want to [03:52] yea :p [03:52] oddly most of us are 30 ish [03:53] so michael jackson, most 80s, etc [03:53] me and the wife always do either picture or islands in the stream [03:54] I've got stuff more recent than that, wasn't alive in the 80's but I have music from then [03:55] but so much stuff is small time still [03:55] bar bands and such [03:57] taking a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_2008_(U.S.) and the 2009 and 2010 and 2011 pages [03:57] only one song comes to mind as one I heard [03:57] and I didn't hear it long [03:57] "Fireflies" Owl City [04:00] I prefer stuff that nobody has heard before, or stuff that isn't around anymore, with an exception here and there [04:01] just kinda funny when I think of older people hearing this current junk, wondering why I'm listening to tool [04:12] * cyberanger seees it still locking up on stuff in /var [04:13] no permissions should be restrictive to /var/ more than /etc/ or /usr/ but perhaps an improper umount when exiting chroot might explain it [04:13] which seems likely actually [04:14] now that I've taken a look and see services that shouldn't be running clearly are [04:14] and from the chroot jail (not an issue in and of itself) [04:14] which is why I'm glad I've held off on a bug report [04:17] idk what the full cause is, but I think I gotta step up and admit my bug appears to have a 'human error' asisting the issue [04:17] * cyberanger wipes egg of face [04:23] chris4585: hear that, I think that was my fault [04:23] * chris4585 reads [04:23] i/o error due to my failure to fully close the chroot jail [04:23] oh, yes that might have done it.. [04:23] and unmount everything pertaining to earlier steps [04:24] not a permissions error in the usual sense, but mksquashfs isn't a usual task [04:24] as is remastering a live cd [04:25] (the past was a multithreading issue, when the treads got out of sync, similar concept here, the source changed, got out of sync) [04:25] at least that's my current theroy after finding a service from the jail still running [04:27] Juzzy-: have any ACDC? [04:30] chris4585: chalk this one up as my lack of expirence in remastering [04:30] that was the issue [04:30] and I/O related error [04:31] lol [04:31] yes that will do it [04:32] you have to always have to make sure everything you mount, you always unmount [04:32] wasn't exactly wasted time, gotta get this right in the end [04:32] well, it appeared as if I had [04:33] however due to the way havp is setup, easy to overlook in that area [04:33] but a simple 'netstat --inet -ln' showed it [04:34] which I shrugged off last night (as I have havp and squid on all machines I maintain, but with different ACL's, so I can quickly have a backup should a primary fail) [04:35] just something to keep an eye out for next time I suppose [04:35] havp makes a couple of loop files for scanning and such [04:36] so I guess when I ran umount, but had yet to exit chroot, it saw that as a failure, and fixed ti [04:37] or else I completely missed it (hard to say after 24 hours exactly, but I didn't see any errors of not mounting anything I mounted myself, which is part of the problem, as some things I added also mounted places) [04:39] chris4585: have you done any recent work on a custom live cd [04:39] cyberanger, no, not recently [04:39] I'm thinking this is one howto worth it for the loco [04:40] it's not really hard, and as you've proven, scriptable (and as I've proven, easy to do by hand, pending any human errors) [04:40] just be nice to have a loco gallery of sorts for this [04:40] darn, too big [04:41] the iso that is, 738MB [04:41] yeah [04:42] you have no idea how many hours I invested in that one script... [04:42] which is hard to believe, I purged so much stuff out, I actually removed the linux kernel and nearly removed apt [04:42] o.O [04:42] chris4585: I can imagine however [04:42] it's ok, apt-get install linux fixed that [04:42] and apt makes it really hard to purge itself [04:43] I tried purging a dependancy of apt, I knew I couldn't damage the system purging too much, worst case I rm -Rf workingspace/ and start over [04:43] since it was just a chroot jail and not the my root system, kinda hard to wreak things [04:44] well you still have to be careful when in chroot and you have mounted dirs [04:46] yep, otherwise I fry a VM and have to restore a snapshot ;-) [04:47] and if that isn't enough, fry a system (the host os) I that only has been live for 72 hours, and I've not gotten to setup firefox yet [04:47] lol [04:48] lol [04:48] there is risks, and while I take risks doing things like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane, I do take some percautions, like checking my chute [04:49] now I just need a perfectly good airplane ;-) [04:53] chris4585: when I'm done, would you like to try it out? [04:53] a livecd? [04:53] (now that you have cable, shouldn't be too hard to get it to you [04:53] oh god no, I can download ubuntu in 5mins now lol [04:53] if not, US Mail) [04:53] yeah [04:54] my live cd [04:54] sure [04:56] not sure how I'm gonna distrubte it, probally a torrent at first [04:57] If it was more similar to ubuntu's disc or crunchbangs (or something) I'd have people rsync the difference [04:57] but thing is, I think I've changed so much of it, that would fail as a realistic plan [04:58] testing the livedisc now, I wonder how much I can increase compression without any errors [04:59] (ideally 40-50 megs worth of further compression, to lower it to 699mb [04:59] or less) [05:01] what size is it now? o.o [05:02] atm, 738MB, and it's not it's final size [05:02] but it's not too far from it [05:02] gotta add a png for a background [05:02] and some config files [05:03] gonna see if anything is duplicated, if so, remove and symlink to fix that issue [05:03] things like default config files [05:03] maybe trim down my firefox profile somehow [05:04] two virus scanners are on there, a favor for work, putting those tools on there (something useful for me and I'm encouraging them to use linux more, so a win win win) [05:05] is this with xorg? [05:05] that seems a bit large [05:05] ah [05:05] perhaps the virus definations could be purged and placed on the fileserver as a script to fetch [05:05] yeah, xorg, openbox [05:05] I'd do it pure cli [05:06] but it wouldn't suceed for too long if I did [05:06] to an extent [05:06] I think it's clamav and bitdefender, and their frontends [05:07] hrm, well I can give you some pointers possibly when I look at it [05:07] still seems heavier than that, but with wireshark, etherape, ettercap, zenmap [05:07] I expect this is heavy in it's own right to an extent [05:07] since I replaced gnome and unity bloat with some of my own [05:08] this is a pre-alpha atm [05:08] easy to do in steps [05:08] but ideally I can roll this out tommorow, as work in progress, request comments [05:08] to those I know can tolerate the rough edges [05:09] yeah, thats no biggie, I've had to deal with tweaking things [05:09] rebuilding an entire iso just to see if the littlest of changes took effect correctly is not fun [05:10] well, that's time, and if it helps put this to memory, then not wasted [05:10] the nice thing is how quick it is on my rig [05:11] as long as I don't delete the source files (don't plan to, I plan to tarball them and have them on usb with the iso, jic) [05:12] then it's chroot in, adjust, then chroot out, and from there could be a script [05:12] and 15 minuts I think, provided no hangups like yesterday [05:13] that's not too bad for something that should help us save 20 minutes on repetive tasks [05:14] cyberanger, the thing I love about my script is its all menu based and was redesigned into modules, so if I want to make a new specific function its as easy as adding a few other functions inside a function, next to no programming [05:14] so that makes doing simple things like chrooting and mounting / unmounting as easy as choosing a option and typing exit [05:14] and hitting enter [05:14] lol [05:15] part of why I did this first is I want to fairly compare it to doing it by hand [05:15] (plus I doubt your script works on dd-wrt atm) [05:15] I'll be trying it shortly [05:18] I'm kinda annoyed with myself in that I meant to have alot more done by now on half these projects [05:19] (the other half are too new to be an issue yet) [05:19] I need to update my script actually I've just been hesitant to do it... [05:20] for a while not I seem to get this dpkg error which is annoying and doesn't always happen [05:20] its been hard to pin point why its happening [05:22] what is being installed at that moment? [05:23] I found a few errors due to the same service running outside the chroot jail [05:23] many things usually I get it with some console-setup [05:23] for example opensshd [05:23] it failed to install due to port 22 already being taken [05:24] actually, it may have been another service, but the jist is I shut down a ton of services on the host, then retried the install in the chroot jail, all ended well [05:31] hehe [05:32] back in 2002 or so [05:33] I built some dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/jails [05:33] formatted them, mounted them [05:33] and installed openssh in the chrooted enviros [05:33] was pretty neat [05:33] then i found out bsd had way better jails and bound to ips ;/ [05:34] that works [05:36] I prefer to put the attackers in jail myself [05:36] unfortunately things aren't that simple [05:37] chris4585: perhaps plymouth wiil be something I ether theme next or just purge [05:37] * cyberanger is leaning on purging it, just seems useless to me [05:37] cyberanger, is that even possible? I thought plymouth was needed to boot now [05:38] good question, and the answer is more how much work you want do put into it [05:38] debian doesn't use it [05:38] and ubuntu did follow debian's boot setup for awhile [05:39] so in theroy, you can reverse the process, or more realistic, use debian live instead [05:39] if reversing the plymouth process isn't worht the work [05:40] have fun with that [05:40] debian makes that easy enough [05:41] I think it's doable [05:41] I'm not sure how simple though [05:43] hrm, utoh [05:44] never mind, premature reaction [05:46] seems I did or didn't do something that's causing a glitch in the bootup [05:47] my guess is the gdm autologin and the app it starts with, asks to try it or install it [05:47] in the natty cd [05:47] it does boot to slim though, so all is well [05:47] * cyberanger is further wondering if maybe this was something better for squeeze [05:50] seems my ram is just too low on this rig for qemu to really run [05:50] which isn't a suprise [05:51] probally should have ran it on the laptop, triple the ram and a nearly equal processor [05:52] yeah, all seems well, just sluggish [05:53] everything I'm coming across so far is stuff I knowingly left out [05:53] so far [05:58] chris4585: drat, one thing I forgot, I cannot tweak terminator from the live disc, and have it save [05:59] does the live disc create the $HOME area on each bootup, or is there an area I can seed that [05:59] I should have thought about that, esp. since nitrogen uses releatve paths, no root config for a default setup [06:00] if it uses the same mechanisms that I know of, it creates home on bootup, by copying files in /etc/skel [06:01] so basically just put files in /etc/skel you want to be in /home/liveuser/ [06:02] so I'll have to populate enough of a home for two apps to work [06:02] what I always did was get the basic programs on the livecd, boot up make changes, copy the changes from the livecd onto the source somehow [06:02] I expected that, but didn't really think about that [06:02] sftp or rsync out of vbox or qemu [06:02] the config files from firefox for example [06:02] or something like that [06:03] firefox's config files I just did by hand [06:03] firefox -P [06:03] lol [06:03] and then copied the new profile, and copied the profiles.ini, and went from there [06:04] I'm used to firefox hacking I just sorta knew what it would expect [06:21] Heh, just pulled out one of my backup drives, I thought I purged all my mirror backups [06:21] it's got hardy and lucid, but needs 4 months of updates by now I believe [06:39] chris4585: didn't expect a more restricted $PATH [06:40] guess that's one more thing to adjust [06:50] time for a break [11:36] .weather cookeville tn [11:36] Overcast ☁, 55.4℉ (13℃), 29.71in (1003mb), Light air 3kt (↑) - KCHA 10:19Z [13:04] good morning everyone [14:14] .weather 37311 [14:14] morning wrst [14:17] how are you doing cyberanger [14:17] * wrst kicks testbot8570 [14:17] .weather cookeville tn [14:19] well cyberanger i think it has died? [14:33] wrst: in that case, I'm doing better than your bot [14:34] no sense leaving a courpse here to rot [14:34] yeah i don't know what happened there [14:35] (joke aside, if you were only kidding, we can invite it back, but it looked like you wanted it kicked) [14:35] perhaps I should have let the bot's master do the kicking, hrm? [14:38] wrst: sent it a msg to join, and gave it another command for weather [14:38] perhaps it locked up, what's top say [14:44] .weather cookeville tn [14:44] Overcast ☁, 55.4℉ (13℃), 29.75in (1004mb), Light Drizzle, Light air 3kt (↑) - KCHA, 12:53Z [14:44] woot [14:45] if you'd like to kick your bot wrst [14:45] I stole the honor last time [14:45] hey but he works :) [14:46] .weather 37311 [14:46] * cyberanger facepalms [14:47] wrst: well, it ignored the join command [14:47] i had already joined it :) [14:47] look again [14:47] since you kicked it [14:47] ohh [14:47] oh well its better off that way :) [14:48] ha ha :) [14:48] did you do that, or was it slow [14:48] .weather 37311 [14:48] Overcast ☁, 55.4℉ (13℃), 29.75in (1004mb), Light Drizzle, Light air 3kt (↑) - KCHA, 12:53Z [14:48] a little slow today :) [14:48] no kidding, that weather report is an hour old [14:49] it's now 1348Z [14:50] (that time cannot be changed, if it's source is METAR data, they use GMT (Zulu) time exclusively, however idk why the bot couldn't adjust it) [14:50] (however for IRC, idk if you'd want to) [14:50] wrst: ^^^^ Reguarding your earlier question on the bot's time [14:51] does that explain that (idk why I didn't pickup on that being METAR data then) [14:53] * wrst thinks he has a long way to go to have a decent bot :) [14:55] * cyberanger was gonna post a link, but on second thought..... [14:55] .wik METAR [14:55] "METAR is a format for reporting weather information." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/METAR [14:55] too vauge, but at least it posted the link [14:56] testbot8570: tell wrst I gotta head out to work, bbl [14:56] cyberanger: I'll pass that on when wrst is around. [14:56] ;-) [14:56] ha ha cyberanger [14:56] wrst: 13:56Z tell wrst I gotta head out to work, bbl [14:56] testbot8570: tell wrst something [14:56] You can tell yourself that. [14:56] ha ha [14:56] later cyberanger [14:56] I *should* be on shortly [15:11] scratch that, I should be leaving shortly, ugh [15:12] .make measandwhich [15:12] .sudo make measandwhich [15:13] man, that bot needs to have a sense of humour coded to it [15:13] testbot8570: tell wrst testbot8570 needs to have a sense of humour coded to it [15:13] cyberanger: I'll pass that on when wrst is around. [15:15] ha ha cyberanger [15:15] wrst: 14:13Z tell wrst testbot8570 needs to have a sense of humour coded to it [15:15] maybe it should be called dry bot [15:28] well its official, my wife is going back to XP [15:28] 18 month fight lost because of the stupid teachers union and coupon printing [15:32] it's offical, I'm not giving up yet [15:33] chris4585: good news, whatever I need to trim, it's clearly in one file [15:33] 693M livecdtmp/extract-cd/casper/filesystem.squashfs [15:34] so it's easily doable [15:34] (perhaps I need to thin firefox to do that, or see how much these virus scanners are taking up) [16:17] moring all [16:19] kd4zay morning [16:21] nothing beats an eventful munday morning 8) [16:58] heh [19:43] .weather cookeville tn [19:43] Cloudy, 62.6℉ (17℃), 29.76in (1004mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KCHA 17:53Z [22:21] .weather galactic city coruscant [22:21] No ICAO code found, sorry [22:28] .weather mars [22:28] Overcast ☁, 42.8℉ (6℃), 29.97in (1012mb), Light Rain, Mist, Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - CYMX, 21:00Z [22:28] i never knew mars was so chili this time of year [22:39] wrst you here [22:41] chris4585 you here [22:41] Xpistos you here [23:07] testbot8570: tell linuxman410 to give us just an extra minute or two next time :) [23:07] wrst: I'll pass that on when linuxman410 is around. [23:16] wrst u hee [23:16] linuxman410: 22:07Z tell linuxman410 to give us just an extra minute or two next time :) [23:16] lol [23:17] linuxman410, you do usually leave kind of fast [23:17] sup [23:17] chris4585 can i ask you a question [23:17] linuxman410, I don't see why not [23:18] chris4585 att send me a email saying i had malware or virus on my computer which is in possible [23:18] lol [23:18] ha ha linuxman410 [23:19] chris4585 said it was a warning [23:19] linuxman410: did you tell them they are smoking pot :) [23:19] I wouldn't worry about it [23:19] here is what they said [23:19]