[00:09] hi [00:10] when i copy a text from eclipse the clipmanager doesnt register the new content in my clipboard === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:10] if i wanted to write a program to detect hardware info, would manually reading stuff in the /proc directory be a decent way to do it? [05:13] guys, how do i format usb drive? [05:13] i tried right click but there's nothing [05:38] how do i revert the bottom panel to non-macintosh style? (-_-) [05:43] :( [05:55] ? [05:55] what do you mean? [05:56] you installed awn? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [07:16] hi [07:16] hi! [07:17] howto write CD in xfburn it reboot away before write [07:19] the machine reboots? o.O [07:23] no [07:24] xfburn don't looking CD [07:24] it reboot xfburn looking CD [07:26] in desktop show CD-R but xfburn don't looking CD [07:26] run it from a terminal and see what it says there [07:27] terminal? why! I choose frome menu [07:28] in the terminal you can see the messages that tell you what's wrong [07:28] also if you ask in #ubuntu, someone there can probably help in your native language [07:28] ok try in [07:29] in the application menu, accessories, terminal [07:29] a black window should appear [07:31] blank CD-R ok looking [07:32] in the terminal window type xfburn4 [07:32] try to burn the CD again [07:32] it should show messages to explain the problem [07:32] !english [07:32] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [07:33] that works too. I just figured if you go into #ubuntu and ask for help in any language, someone will probably respond given it has over 1000 users [07:33] if DVD RW [07:33] RenaKunisaki: If you go into #ubuntu and ask for help in any language other than English, we give you that URL or throw the relevant language factoid at you ;) [07:34] warning: Nodriver [07:34] heh [07:34] Aee, copy all the messages and paste into http://pastebin.com [07:36] pastebin.com? what is it [07:36] a website where you can paste a lot of text, and then give the URL on IRC [07:39] (xfburn:4552): WARNING **: No drives were found! If this is in error, check the permissions [07:39] ** Message: Using gstreamer transcoder. [07:39] it web sing up I no want [07:40] there's no signup o.O [07:40] oh well there is, but you don't need to [07:41] anyway there seems to be a problem with the permissions on your DVD drive. is another program using it? [07:42] http://pastebin.com/f3rSNegQ [07:42] In DVD have old data [07:42] DVD-RW [07:43] OK, I don't know how to fix that, but try explaining the problem in #ubuntu and giving that URL. someone there should know. [07:44] I try reboot & run xfburn it looking DVD and write ISO file [07:45] want no reboot to write DVD [07:46] thank for web [07:46] you're welcome [07:46] sorry I can't help any more [07:47] I bookmark your web pastbin [07:48] one question [07:48] howto chang xfce theme [07:49] I load axiom Xfce Theme from xfce-look.org [07:49] but unknow install [07:52] I think you can drag the file into the theme chooser window [07:52] https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=install+xfce+theme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 [07:54] are tou have GUI [07:54] are you have GUI? [07:54] yes? [07:54] add same gnome [08:03] ok [08:03] no hard === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:45] have forums for xubuntu community? [08:47] AEE, ubuntuforums.org is for all versions [08:49] oK thank [09:33] hey in xubuntu nothing bluetooth? [09:46] hello. does anyone know if it's possible to get libreoffice to use the system colors for it's scheme? I have xubuntu 11.04 [09:46] I mean theme, not scheme [09:46] starkid, afaik that's not possible, theming libre-/openoffice is hard/impossible [09:46] I was afraid of that. [09:47] thanks [09:47] we would have taken care of that if it was easy/doable :) [09:47] no problem [10:15] moin. i have problems with ctrl+c in eclipse. does anyone know i reason? clipmanager is already instaslled [10:17] guys, has someone experince the bug with "don't show this message again after nm get disconnected? [10:20] exs: Is it only in eclipse that you are having this problem? [10:24] drc: yes [10:24] drc: iam using openjdk. could be this the reason? [10:25] No idea, I'd ask in #eclipse as it appears to be an eclipse specific problem. [10:25] drc: but i have this eclipse problem only at xfce [10:32] hey guys, i just create a new user on my computer and logged in with him, the way the desktop looked was entirely different (theme-wise and it also had the apple-like shortcuts on the bottom of the screen). how can i reset my own account to get the default screen setup/decoration? [10:33] Cube``, that is the default [10:34] Cube``, old users are nor migrated, but if you create new users, they will get the new default [10:35] knome: so however i customize my screen, new users will inherit that? [10:35] no way [10:35] Cube``: And cross-posting is frowned upon [10:36] drc: feel free to [10:39] :( [13:51] how can i upgrade wine from 1.2.2 to 1.3.6 ? [15:28] Hi all. Who can tell me, where i can get a cpu-frequency-applet for Xubuntu? [15:29] Nor8: Do you want to read your CPU frequency, or control it? [15:30] ball: control like in gnome, but without installing of gnome-applets if possible [15:33] hello partypeople :D [15:33] governor-plugin should be available [15:34] help ß [15:35] need help [15:35] ask a question and it may be ansvered [15:35] i changed to xfce [15:35] do you know why [15:36] Sysi: Ок, installed, but cant add it to panel. [15:36] Sysi [15:36] becasue it's awesome, propably [15:37] quite right [15:37] well i will tell you [15:37] it was 20 th march 2006, first use of linux... i luve it, ubuntu xx.xx. it was sunday night and i was bored [15:38] i thought, gnome 2 is good ... [15:38] but then the day arrived, the horrible da< [15:38] day [15:38] it was mai 2011, i heard, never ever gnome2 again [15:38] i hate gnome 3 such shit [15:38] so you're stuck in 2006, sad [15:39] then i heard, xfce [15:39] and its good [15:39] was it an good idea [15:39] from me [15:39] then [15:39] less enter and swearing please [15:40] i didnt know how to discribe gnome 3 and unity [15:40] instead of shit [15:43] unity isn't much better than gnome2, i never liked that, gnome3 is pretty good if you only got one screen [15:44] i think most of opposing people say "oversized smartphone" [15:44] +1 [15:48] Will Xubuntu stay more conventional (in terms of window manager) than Ubuntu? There will be people who don't like Unity. [15:50] there was, is, and will be people who don't like unity, xubuntu is more 90s [15:50] May be, but its works better at moment than Ubuntu with unity [15:50] you can use 11.04 with classic-desktop for two years anyway [15:51] Xubuntu will work with the Xfce developers, and at this time, will remain as is until Xfce 4.10. [15:51] Well, we have broken compiz-emerald in 11.04 gnome classic. [15:52] testing branch of compiz in stable relize wasnt so good idea [15:52] emerald is broken, in any enviroment. That is not gnome classic fault [15:52] you don't actually need emerald [15:53] bug 726229 has a good version of emerald that works [15:53] Launchpad bug 726229 in emerald (Ubuntu) "emerald crashed with SIGSEGV in decor_quads_to_property()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726229 [15:53] Im need in emerald [15:54] Then you should use the package attached to that bug report [15:54] hi [15:54] [15:54] already used from PPA. === erebus is now known as Goliath [15:55] !emerald [15:55] emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives. [15:55] help [15:55] help | larstorbenn [15:56] !help | larstorbenn [15:56] larstorbenn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [15:56] should i install if like xubuntu? [15:56] no i meant [15:56] should i install xubuntu if like xubuntu [15:56] i [15:56] larstorbenn: only you can answer a question like that. [15:57] That's like saying "should I eat pie if I like pie?" Yes, provided you're not allergic to the pie in question or have some other solid reason not to eat it. [15:57] no i meant [15:57] i like GNOME 2 ubuntu [15:57] hi weird question larstorbenn I quite don't understand what's your issue here [15:57] but should i install xubuntu [15:57] (e.g. I'm an overweight middle-aged Englishman and should probably lay off the pies for a few days) [15:57] Mmmm... pie. [15:58] hmm why not 2 session larstorbenn ? [15:58] larstorbenn: you can use classic-desktop with 11.04 and if you want, test xubuntu-desktop along it [15:58] larstorbenn: I recommend Piebuntu. [15:58] i think [15:58] a GNOME and Xu session ? [15:58] ubuntu 11.10 wont have classical right ? [15:59] 11.04 will be supported for two years anyway [15:59] two years ??? [15:59] what's new on 11.10 ? what's the command again [15:59] Sysi: 18 months only [15:59] 1 1/2 ... or 1 [15:59] charlie-tca: oh [15:59] well, quite a time anyway [16:00] All non-LTS versions are 18 months [16:00] so the question is [16:00] should i change to xfce, 11.04 or 10.04. i normally like gnome 2, but xfce is also possible [16:00] if you son't like unity or kde, xfce might be for you [16:01] i hate unity and gnome 3 [16:01] kde gnome 2 and xfce are possible too [16:04] hey what's the package for cli autocompletion again, I mean like to complete filename in cmd ? [16:06] lighta: /etc/bash_completion ? [16:07] lighta: or to enable it in /etc/bash.bashrc [16:08] ok thx charlie-tca =) [16:08] please [16:08] help [16:09] me [16:09] larstorbenn: stop please. [16:09] charlie-tca i report you [16:09] You will be given help if you ask questions that need an answer [16:09] in the #ubuntu-ops [16:09] i already said it [16:09] should i change to xfce, 11.04 or 10.04. i normally like gnome 2, but xfce is also possible [16:10] try and see [16:10] Yes. Xubuntu is excellent. [16:10] That is a decision only you can decide. No one can tell you if you should change [16:10] thanks you [16:10] I'll be glad to tell you. ;-) [16:10] 11.04 has newer xfce than 10.04 has [16:10] thats no problem Sysi. i tested new xfce xubuntu 11.04 yesterday [16:11] in standard version it isnt quite good but i can modify it until it looks like old gnome 2 or old xfce 4.6.3 [16:15] There's Lubuntu too. >> http://lubuntu.net/ [16:16] no [16:16] lubuntu is really ... [16:16] its good [16:16] but it is not my favrouite [16:17] it is an XFCE channel here, right ? [16:17] why do you try me to use the lxde lubuntu [16:17] I prefer pulse audio from xubuntu then alsa that was by default on lubuntu [16:19] This is the Xubuntu support channel, that does not mean we do make suggestions for things that might work better for you [16:19] yes allright [16:19] but WHY ?! on heavens hell should lxde work better [16:19] there is no reason for it [16:19] charlie-tca: "does not mean we do" or "does not mean we do not"? [16:19] and then its not okay [16:20] ball: We do [16:20] We won't support other distros, but we do suggest things we think might work [16:20] * ball nods [16:20] That sounds entirely reasonable to me. It's not what you said though ;-) [16:20] charlie-tca you didnt answered my question either [16:20] charlie-tca you should tell me why xfce should not good for me [16:21] Because it was not a valid xubuntu question [16:21] i look for an gnome 2 distro [16:21] It is possible your equipment is not suitable for Xubuntu [16:21] which is similar to gnome 2 [16:21] It is possible that you do not like the way Xubuntu works [16:21] xfce is not gnome2, you like if if it fits yur needs [16:21] *your [16:21] It is possible it is too complicated to make Xubuntu work for you [16:21] yes but if you read right [16:21] i look for an gnome 2 distro [16:21] which is similar to gnome 2 [16:21] and lxde isnt it [16:21] Xubuntu is not a gnome distro [16:22] L O O K ! [16:22] i write: similar [16:22] why would we know what is gnome like [16:22] because you are a support channel ?!?!?!?!?!? [16:22] ! [16:22] omfg [16:23] larstorbenn: Not a Gnome support channel though. [16:23] (or the support channel for a Gnome distro) [16:23] you can not tel me you never saw an gnome 2 distro [16:23] larstorbenn: Why? Some of us haven't used Gnome [16:24] you definitly saw it on screenshots [16:24] You every try Linux Mint, larstorbenn? [16:24] s/every/ever [16:24] larstorbenn: It's not reasonable to make assumptions about what other people have used. I came to Xubuntu from NetBSD, where I ran Blackbox almost exclusively. [16:24] oh charlie-tca [16:24] well then tell me you dont know [16:24] but not tell such a shit [16:25] !language | larstorbenn [16:25] larstorbenn: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [16:26] Based on what I've seen recently, I think my users would find Xubuntu less alien than Ubuntu with either Unity or Gnome Shell. [16:27] yes its unity is really not good [16:27] it is very complicated [16:28] i can happen that some windows go onto the other desktop [16:28] and then i have to change the desktop and so on [16:28] I had not heard that before [16:29] charlie-tca i dont either [16:29] I do know that Ubuntu still offers classic session on 11.04 [16:29] i happens if i move some windows down and then if i want to maximize them per double click on the window border [16:29] then it maximizes, but on the other desktop [16:29] charlie-tca: That being GNOME 2.x, right? [16:29] right [16:30] but i know how to change it [16:30] well, kind of gnome 2.x, anyway [16:30] if i resize the numbers of the desktops it doesbt happen again [16:30] doesnt [16:31] that is a possible choice twoo [16:31] too [16:32] were new updates for ubuntu just release? [16:32] charlie-tca i wasnt be so rude to you as one minutes ago [16:33] sorry i am only very sad because i look since 2 years really, for an distro environment and so on [16:33] :D [16:33] Then you should try different ones, to find a good one for you. [16:33] i already tried [16:34] I tried Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Suse, Xubuntu to find one. That was in 2005 [16:34] I have used Xubuntu since 6.06 [16:34] Number 1: Gnome 2, Number 2: Unity (with only 1 desktops), Number 2: XFCE, Number 3: KDE ... [16:34] Xubuntu is my homeboy. [16:35] I really think that Linux Mint might be a good fit for you, larstorbenn. [16:35] no [16:35] i hate mint [16:35] such a shi* [16:35] That is still not okay language [16:35] ok sorry [16:35] please [16:35] but mint i really hate [16:36] because it is ubuntu, only a few tweaks [16:36] okay, then don't use it, but if no one asks, they won't know [16:36] :D [16:36] I thought linux mint in not ubuntu anymore. It is now Debian based [16:36] i will try xubuntu 11.04 amd 64 for productive use [16:36] no charlie-tca [16:36] which should be more like gnome again [16:37] oh, maybe it is gnome 3 now [16:39] Whew. [16:39] Very nice work by all of you [16:40] Linux Mint has a Debian-based branch that is a rolling distro, but the "main" release is still Ubuntu-based. [16:40] charlie-tca: IIRC Linux Mint Debian Edition is Debian (testing) based...Linux Mint 11RC is Ubuntu Based w/o unity....LM 13 (11.10) will come with GNOME3 [16:40] how confusing [16:41] Yup :) [16:41] Thanks, drc [16:42] Xubuntu FTW! "We're less confusing!(R)" ;-) [16:42] Any of you really like Gmusicbrowser? I've gone back to Exaile; it's just too good. [16:42] Well, I I made an error...The upcoming release is based on 11.04 w/o unity and the next release (based on 11.10) with have gnome3...whatever the release numbers are [16:43] likemindead: anything in particular? [16:44] LM is in (probable) process of moving everything BUT the Main Release to a rolling Debian (testing) system [16:44] I'm pretty OCD about my music collection. It's ~900 albums & growing. Gmusicbrowser goofed a lot of it up. It was slow & buggy. [16:44] Exaile is smooth, simple, & works brilliantly for me. [16:45] It's "the first music player/organizer I /don't/ hate!" [16:45] As I saw someone say a while back. :D [16:45] i like rhythmbox and juk [16:45] But, to each their own, of course. The beauty of GNU/Linux! [16:46] it's actually fun how hard it is to find decent music player to windows [16:46] likemindead: That's why there are so many distros..everyone with an idea just to create their own distro :) [16:46] i end up with winamp, not perfect but good enough [16:47] I haven't used Windows in ~4 years, but when I did I used MediaMonkey & really dug it. [16:47] hey do i run (jackd -d alsa &> /dev/null &) with sudo or not? I want to select jack in winecfg, [16:47] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MediaMonkey [18:54] how do i install oss? [18:56] Office of Secret Service? [18:57] erebus: Go to Synaptic Package Manager & look for oss. [18:57] likemindead: which package to get? [18:57] What are you trying to do? [18:58] likemindead: i want oss instead of alsa [19:00] i think oss isn't supported by modern kernels [19:10] Hi, after the upgrade to natty I get a very non-informative status icon for Pidgin. Anyone sees the same and/or has an idea how to get the old icon back where one can also see the own status and incoming messages. [19:10] From Wikipedia: OSS is the only audio API in Linux up through the 2.4 series of official (kernel.org) Linux kernels. ALSA was added starting with 2.5, and in those versions, Linux kernel authors marked OSS as deprecated. 4Front continued to develop OSS outside of the Linux kernel. [19:15] ysis: there's a Themes tab in the Preferences window. That might be where to fix it. [19:16] kupfer: I saw this, but there's only the default theme in the list. Just wondered why anyone would want to have an exclamation mark in a pink speech bubble which shows nothing... I'll look for some alternative theme [20:17] i installed xfce 4.8 today on top of my ubuntu 10.10 and would like to make globalmenu working, i searched on google but i could not make it work any one can give me some directions? [20:18] install xfapplet and globalmenu and add those to panel [20:19] i did it but it does not show the menus [20:21] you know it won't work properly anyway? there's a bug in xfapplet that prevents it from expanding [20:21] i see! [20:22] and there is another way to implement a menu like macintosh? [20:22] not with xfce4-panel [20:22] ok [20:23] thank you very much [20:23] i can live without it [21:16] is software center in xubuntu by default? [21:17] IVe always installed ubuntu + xfce, not xubuntu entirely and it just got me wondering [21:18] yes [21:18] k [21:18] thanks [21:19] why would my laptop heat up a lot when I close the lid? [21:20] because it can't cool off from keyboard properly [21:21] mister_m: Probably because it's designed to also vent the heat thru the keyboard [21:22] drc, that is pretty :( [21:25] mister_m: Pretty? [21:26] pretty + a sad face [21:27] ah [22:04] Can somebody help me to get my wireless working? I used ndiswrapper to install the driver, but the wireless networks still don't show up. [22:06] are you using a usb antennae or a card and what is the specifics [22:07] a card. It is a Broadcom wireless LAN card, and it is in an old Compaq Pressario R300 [22:08] ahh the lovely broadcom I can do is look on google mainly it seemed that info might be pertnant.;) [22:10] ;-)once, on a previous installation with wubi, the driver showed up in the additional drivers. [22:10] i'm not using wubi now though [22:11] do you remember if it was a generic that worked? [22:11] no [22:14] I used this to get the driver installed [22:14] http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp-compaq+presario+r3000 [22:17] do you know the exact card?. I thought there was a ubuntu wiki page on broadcom but can't find it. [22:17] let me check the card [22:18] BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [22:18] !broadcom [22:18] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [22:19] the bot always knows.;) [22:19] lol [22:20] or drc or another helper.;) [22:22] Supported models include: BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225, **BCM43227, **BCM43228 but I have BCM4306 [22:22] !BCM4306 [22:23] i'll try what it says anyway [22:28] BCM4306 is on that page [22:29] oh [22:29] you running natty [22:29] yeah [22:30] scoll down and see this.....On Ubuntu 11.04 installing the 'firmware-b43-installer' package takes care of the downloading and installation of the b43 driver. [22:30] oh ok [22:30] not sure here just looking at the page. [22:31] I'm lucky all my stuff works no additinals. [22:31] lol [22:31] it's a burden I live with lol.;) [22:31] lol [22:31] I have that package [22:32] I figured so that is as close as I can get really good luck, the ubuntu channel might help as well, [22:32] ok [22:33] i'll read that wiki page [22:34] cool.........the ubuntu channel has 1600 people showing that is about average, many sleeping or just on all the time. [22:40] that's a lot [22:41] do I have to restart my computer? === drc is now known as Guest80839 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se