| nit-wit | using lubuntu natty what is the save session settings protocol | 00:56 |
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| semitones | what does it mean that lubuntu is moving to gtk3+? | 04:40 |
| semitones | s/+// | 04:40 |
| palhmbs | there is a key combination in vim that doesn't work with lxterminal - using CTRL-w then CTRL-q used to close a file, not any more | 07:28 |
| palhmbs | can somebody explain the weirdness I've been experiencing between terminals from 10.10 and 11.04? | 07:29 |
| palhmbs | mrxvt with lubuntu / 11.04 has totally screwed vim :( | 07:29 |
| bioterror | everybody has moved to rxvt-unicode ;) | 07:29 |
| palhmbs | especially cut and paste | 07:29 |
| palhmbs | your telling me that mrxvt doesn't support unicode, i don't believe it. | 07:30 |
| palhmbs | I thought unicode support has been around for awhile, in lot's of terminals | 07:30 |
| bioterror | Q: Does mrxvt support UTF-8 locale/encoding method? | 07:31 |
| bioterror | A: Not now. This is a planned work and hopefully will be supported in the next | 07:31 |
| bioterror | development branch (0.5.x). | 07:31 |
| palhmbs | I liked mrxvt cause I could setup key shortcuts eg CTRL-SHIFT-2 / 3 to run vim / ssh or whatever, in a new tab. | 07:32 |
| palhmbs | frak, i don't need UTF-8 support, as long as cut & paste works ( like it did, before I upgraded ) | 07:32 |
| palhmbs | oh, well, life goes on - I guess I live with lxterminal until MRXVT get their act together.... | 07:33 |
| palhmbs | though I thought it was a almost dead / dead project | 07:34 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 07:34 |
| bioterror | you could try terminator? | 07:34 |
| bioterror | but I like urxvt, I have clickable urls and so on | 07:35 |
| bioterror | I have tabbed urxvt now on my screen | 07:37 |
| Ascavasaion | Hello. how would an AMD 900MHz, 184Mb RAM, and 20Gb system run with Lubuntu. Will it even run? | 08:21 |
| bioterror | Ascavasaion, sure it will | 08:28 |
| bioterror | but get more RAM | 08:28 |
| bioterror | it wont hurt | 08:28 |
| Ascavasaion | bioterror: thank you... I have no more RAM :( | 08:28 |
| bioterror | you need to scavenge :D | 08:29 |
| Ascavasaion | bioterror: I booted the installation CD, and it has been "loading" for about 1/2 an hour... not sure if it has hung or what. The little row of dots that alternate under the Lubuntu logo are still movning. Any advice? | 08:29 |
| bioterror | press esc or spacebar | 08:30 |
| Ascavasaion | ESC or Spacebar do nothing. | 08:30 |
| bioterror | you should see under the beautiful plymouth | 08:30 |
| bioterror | reboot and try again | 08:30 |
| Ascavasaion | the 5 little dots just keep alternating. | 08:30 |
| Ascavasaion | Okay, rebooted and opted for Install Ubuntu... now we wait again. | 08:32 |
| jmarsden | Ascavasaion and bioterror, will the GUI installer run OK in 184 MB?? Maybe you should try the "install from mini.iso, then add lubuntu-desktop" approach? | 08:32 |
| bioterror | Ascavasaion, if that doesnt do the trick | 08:32 |
| bioterror | yeah | 08:32 |
| bioterror | !mini | Ascavasaion | 08:32 |
| ubot5 | Ascavasaion: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 08:32 |
| bioterror | I was just going to suggest | 08:32 |
| jmarsden | :) | 08:32 |
| Ascavasaion | Pity the Linux distro does not run the old text installer as default. | 08:33 |
| bioterror | yeah | 08:33 |
| bioterror | I feel the same | 08:33 |
| poltak | why don | 08:33 |
| poltak | why isn't Java jdk packaged with lbuntu? | 08:34 |
| bioterror | thank god we have gentoo and arch linux | 08:34 |
| bioterror | poltak, becouse propietary | 08:34 |
| poltak | what about openjdk entiety of free? | 08:34 |
| bioterror | it is | 08:34 |
| poltak | entirely* | 08:34 |
| bioterror | and if someone needs to develop java, they can fetch the jdk | 08:35 |
| bioterror | I assume | 08:35 |
| poltak | can it be packed with lubuntu? | 08:35 |
| Ascavasaion | Should I go 10.04? Or stick with the 11.04? | 08:35 |
| bioterror | jmarsden, I have set my lubuntu-desktop mails go to gmail and I have pushmail to my phone | 08:35 |
| bioterror | I hear all the time *ding* :d | 08:35 |
| bioterror | Ascavasaion, go with the latest | 08:35 |
| jmarsden | bioterror: :) | 08:35 |
| Ascavasaion | bioterror: Okies | 08:35 |
| bioterror | Ascavasaion, when you have that installed, you say "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends" without "" ofkooz | 08:36 |
| Ascavasaion | bioterror: Braggart :) | 08:37 |
| jmarsden | poltak: There is not really room left on the CD for developer-only tools, and any "spare" space will probably be used for more language packs instead of new packages. | 08:37 |
| bioterror | jmarsden, should I add to faq a guide how to make --no-install-recommends always on? | 08:37 |
| jmarsden | bioterror: I'm not sure... we are trying to get lubuntu-desktop to "work" with recommends ; we need it to work that way for the official Ubuntu build system, it seems. | 08:38 |
| jmarsden | So adding a FAQ entry might be unnecessary fairly soon... | 08:38 |
| bioterror | it's okay for another programs too :P | 08:38 |
| jmarsden | You can add it to the FAQ, it shouldn't hurt anything; but it is just one more "unusual" thing to do that makes using Lubuntu seem hard or strange to newcomers... | 08:41 |
| bioterror | even debian needs that on server installation | 08:41 |
| poltak | jmarsden: java is everywhere! | 08:41 |
| jmarsden | poltak: Really? :) Then find it inside your keyboard (you said it was everywhere!!) and download it from there into your Lubuntu machine :) :) | 08:42 |
| poltak | It isn't in my keyboard marsden! I got a really old keyboard | 08:42 |
| jmarsden | poltak: BTW, good luck finding Java on your Windows CDs :) | 08:42 |
| jmarsden | Even new ones :) | 08:42 |
| poltak | I don't have any windows CDs! They're way too expensive | 08:43 |
| poltak | What about evolution mail? Anyone use that? | 08:43 |
| jmarsden | So its not in your keyboard, and it is not in your windows CDs... I suspect it is not really "everywhere" :) | 08:43 |
| poltak | it is! It says on oracle site, you hero | 08:43 |
| jmarsden | poltak: evolution is a very large program, Lubuntu is more intended for smaller less memory hungry apps :) | 08:43 |
| poltak | back to the matter at hand | 08:43 |
| jmarsden | Just because it says something on a web site, does not make it true :) | 08:44 |
| poltak | I'm talking about use in general. Anyone use evolution mail? | 08:44 |
| Ascavasaion | "chroot: can't execute 'dpkg-divert': Input/output error. | 08:44 |
| jmarsden | poltak: This is #lubuntu ... for Lubuntu support. | 08:45 |
| poltak | do you heard of java marsden? | 08:45 |
| jmarsden | Ascavasaion: Sounds like either the install CD or your hard drive has issues. | 08:45 |
| Ascavasaion | jmarsden: Sigh. | 08:45 |
| jmarsden | poltak: I program in it and have packaged Java apps, so yes. But that is not really on topic here. | 08:45 |
| poltak | Right, I'm gonna pretend you're not here anymore | 08:46 |
| Ascavasaion | Okay, burning the mini.iso. | 08:47 |
| bioterror | poltak, no. evolution is gnome integrated and filters doesnt work that good | 08:52 |
| poltak | oh that explains why it's on every bloody gnome distro I try out | 08:53 |
| poltak | do the lubuntu site have a request section? | 08:53 |
| bioterror | we have discussions about requests soon | 08:53 |
| poltak | I'm gonna request openjdk | 08:53 |
| poltak | does lubuntu not come with ANY proprietary software? | 08:54 |
| bioterror | no | 08:54 |
| bioterror | you have to enable partner repo for that | 08:54 |
| poltak | but it's not considered free because of the ubuntu repos right? | 08:54 |
| jmarsden | Some restricted drivers, maybe? | 08:54 |
| poltak | a free distro, I mean | 08:54 |
| bioterror | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy | 08:54 |
| poltak | I'm not allowed to click links | 08:55 |
| bioterror | why not? | 08:55 |
| bioterror | spreading word of opensource software is spreading word of communism! | 08:55 |
| poltak | last time I did I ruined gran's laptop | 08:55 |
| bioterror | really | 08:56 |
| poltak | but that was an msn link | 08:56 |
| poltak | also, opensource software isn't communism | 08:57 |
| Ascavasaion | Mini.iso is also giving me trouble now... sigh. Puppylinux runs fine on this machine with a Frugal install. HOwcome Ubuntu will not even boot into the installation media? | 08:57 |
| bioterror | Ascavasaion, any errors? | 08:58 |
| Ascavasaion | bioterror: froze on loading vmlinuz or something. I have since rebooted... again. | 09:00 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 09:03 |
| Ascavasaion | Okay, trying with Mini.iso again. I opted for first option... Install. CDROM is reading like crazy and initial installation menu has not disappeared. | 09:05 |
| Ascavasaion | got an error... but it disappeared... EDD Error: something something Sector something .... sound slike the hard disk is dodgy or the disc. I just burnt the disc. Argh! Why can it not just work. Sheesh. | 09:06 |
| poltak | what's you guys favourite thing about lubuntu? | 09:08 |
| Ascavasaion | poltak: Um... not installing it, that is for sure heehhe | 09:09 |
| poltak | Why is this hard for you? | 09:12 |
| Ascavasaion | poltak: Because the installer is dying on me ehhe | 09:14 |
| poltak | stop laughing or you'd be wise to not belief it | 09:14 |
| Ascavasaion | huh? | 09:15 |
| poltak | just drop it | 09:15 |
| poltak | brb I need to do some networking maintenance and repairs (I'm network administrator of my house) | 09:15 |
| Ascavasaion | Oooooooookay. | 09:17 |
| Ascavasaion | Turns out it was a dodgy burn :) EDD error = dodgy CD heeh Reburnt it on the XP machine and it is installing now :) | 10:01 |
| poltak | Ascavasaion: you can never trust XP | 10:03 |
| Ascavasaion | Does mini.iso install X Windows, etc.? | 10:05 |
| poltak | Ascavasaion: nope | 10:05 |
| Ascavasaion | Oh :( | 10:06 |
| Ascavasaion | Okay. | 10:06 |
| poltak | Ascavasaion: tell me you've got it working | 10:41 |
| Ascavasaion | poltak: It is downloading stuff off the Internet now :) | 10:42 |
| poltak | good lad. You can thank me later | 10:42 |
| Ascavasaion | poltak: HAHA! | 10:42 |
| Ascavasaion | It crashed... Installing The Base system failed. :( | 10:48 |
| poltak | That's not my fault! | 10:48 |
| Ascavasaion | I never said it was your fault. | 10:48 |
| poltak | you basically implied it. It's recorded now anyway | 10:49 |
| Ascavasaion | HA HA HA! Nonsense. | 10:49 |
| poltak | If I get an email from the administrators I'm giving them the timestamp so they can come check the records from then | 10:50 |
| poltak | I didn't do anything wrong | 10:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | What's going on? | 10:52 |
| poltak | basically accused of breaking some guys system | 10:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | Aha...only if you suggested third party PPA's etc then you MIGHT get blamed, otherwise your probably safe :) | 10:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | ;) | 10:54 |
| poltak | I didn't even do that!!! :( seriously feel like crap now | 10:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Cheer up poltak | 10:56 |
| Ascavasaion | MrChrisDruif: He is talking crap. | 10:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't know what happened fully, so just chill :P | 10:57 |
| Ascavasaion | MrChrisDruif: I am chilled hehe Either we have a language problem and he misunderstood what I said, or he is playing the fool. | 10:57 |
| poltak | :( shit I used to think you guys were the coolest but not any more | 10:58 |
| * Ascavasaion shuts up. | 10:58 | |
| MrChrisDruif | poltak; We're not accusing you of anything, what's wrong? | 10:59 |
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| poltak | MrChrisDruif: I just think I'm gonna have to go for another walk to get this off my chest | 11:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, have a nice walk :) | 11:00 |
| poltak | It's bloody freezing so I won't! | 11:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | Southern hemisphere? | 11:06 |
| Ascavasaion | Which is lighter... Xubuntu or Lubuntu? | 11:53 |
| kalithlev | Lubuntu | 11:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ascavasaion; I'm not sure, I haven't tested. But in my experience is Lubuntu lighter then Xubuntu | 11:55 |
| Ascavasaion | MrChrisDruif: Aaaah, thank you. | 11:55 |
| Ahmuck | Lubuntu for now | 14:13 |
| Ahmuck | rofl, that guy sounds like he's had a little to much of something | 14:21 |
| Ahmuck | why don't i ever get here to join the fun at the right time | 14:21 |
| Ahmuck | :( | 14:21 |
| kalithlev | hm, is it possible to get the "Extract here" thing in pcmanfm to create a folder with the archive name? | 15:23 |
| Soupermanito | why the lubuntu homepage doesnt lead you to the torrent? | 18:51 |
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| mikeatvillage | Hi, is there a gui I can use to enter details of my proxy for internet access | 20:47 |
| mikeatvillage | I've just install the gnome network tools but it's not in there | 20:48 |
| bioterror | seems like we have a faq material in here | 20:48 |
| bioterror | cromium-browser --proxy-server=host:port | 20:49 |
| bioterror | chromium-browser even | 20:49 |
| bioterror | man chromium-browser | 20:50 |
| bioterror | and /proxy | 20:50 |
| bioterror | for searching proxy settings | 20:50 |
| mikeatvillage | bioterror: Thanks. I thought the browsers used the "system settings" | 20:51 |
| bioterror | np ;) | 20:53 |
| bioterror | actually that's ridiculous thing | 20:53 |
| mikeatvillage | bioterror: I was looking for a gui that would edit /etc/environment for me | 20:53 |
| bioterror | gilir, ^^ proxy case | 20:53 |
| gilir | bioterror, lxproxy in the Lubuntu PPA ? | 20:56 |
| mikeatvillage | bioterror: PPA ? | 20:56 |
| bioterror | gilir, is that going to be moved to official repos too? | 21:01 |
| gilir | bioterror, it's not planned in the short term | 21:01 |
| Keutelgebakje | noob question: can I install lubuntu without losing everything here on my windows drive? I only have one partition, so can I make an etx4 partiton for lubuntu without having to format everything? | 21:06 |
| bioterror | sure | 21:06 |
| bioterror | there's option "install side-by-side" | 21:06 |
| Keutelgebakje | really? when booting from the installation cd? | 21:07 |
| Keutelgebakje | and all my data will be safe? | 21:07 |
| bioterror | yes | 21:07 |
| bioterror | yes | 21:07 |
| Keutelgebakje | thank you, that's what I needed to know:) | 21:07 |
| bioterror | I can dig you a screenshot .D | 21:08 |
| mikeatvillage | I did a 'side-by-side' last week and it all worked perfectly | 21:08 |
| Keutelgebakje | well I used to have linux mint before this and I know mint could do that too somehow, but I've never tried it :P | 21:08 |
| bioterror | http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TWzh8Z786xI/AAAAAAAADNw/8lXqgCMgicY/ubuntu11.04-installer.png | 21:09 |
| kosaidpo | hello people ; ] | 21:09 |
| Keutelgebakje | it says there "alongside an exsisting copy of Ubuntu", but same goes for windows I understand? | 21:10 |
| bioterror | yes | 21:11 |
| Keutelgebakje | awesome | 21:11 |
| bioterror | that shot was to demonstrate that you can even upgrade your existing installation with new ubiquity | 21:11 |
| Keutelgebakje | allright :D | 21:11 |
| Keutelgebakje | well I'm curious about lubuntu, looks quite good. I used to have mint 9, worked like a charm, but when I updated to 10 all hell broke loose haha | 21:12 |
| bioterror | sure | 21:12 |
| bioterror | mint is not designed to be upgraded from working installation | 21:13 |
| bioterror | they like to have a fresh new installation | 21:13 |
| bioterror | that's why they have made those backup softwares :D | 21:13 |
| twizta | lubuntu works great on my old aspire one. | 21:14 |
| Keutelgebakje | well, we shall see, thanks for your help everyone :) | 21:15 |
| Keutelgebakje | time to install, bye | 21:15 |
| mikeatvillage | gilir: I've found the lubuntu-control-center and downloaded it but get a dependency error "python < 2.7 :-( | 21:15 |
| mikeatvillage | gilir: and all the pages I google for lkproxy do not seem to have a download :-(( | 21:16 |
| kosaidpo | mikeatvillage: update ur python then | 21:26 |
| mikeatvillage | According to Synaptic I have python 2.7.1.0 | 21:27 |
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| kosaidpo | mikeatvillage: but pythin now its at v 3 :D | 21:36 |
| kosaidpo | python.org | 21:36 |
| mikeatvillage | Thanks, I'll go there and see what I can do :-) | 21:37 |
| kosaidpo | mikeatvillage: : ] | 21:41 |
| gomiboy | pay attention that they changed apis with python 3... not all programs written with python <2.7 will work... just saying :3 | 21:49 |
| mikeatvillage | Oh... | 21:50 |
| mikeatvillage | I've installed 3.2 now ... | 21:51 |
| mikeatvillage | Ah, still getting the dependency error even now I have python 3.2 :-( | 21:55 |
| bonny | how do i install java it says it has no installation candidate | 22:26 |
| MrChrisDruif | bonny; Search for java in synaptic | 22:27 |
| bonny | ok | 22:31 |
| bonny | i need jdk to run minecraft | 22:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | jdk? Not jre? | 22:32 |
| bonny | i have jre | 22:32 |
| bonny | have u used minecraft before | 22:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Nope, but jre = Java Runtime Environment, that why I thought you'd needed that | 22:34 |
| bonny | but i think i have java | 22:36 |
| bonny | runtime environment | 22:37 |
| bonny | i only need to know how to sart up minecraft cuz it needs java it works online but online wheneer i click it opens the menu thats why im installing the non browser version | 22:37 |
| bonny | but i extracted the file and i dont no how to open it with java | 22:38 |
| bonny | on internet section i have : sun java 6 web start | 22:39 |
| bonny | on preferences i have: open jdk java 6 policy tool | 22:39 |
| bonny | and sun java 6 plugin control panel and sun java 6 policy tool | 22:39 |
| gomiboy | bonny: if it's a .jar you have to write in a terminal: java -jar filename | 22:40 |
| bonny | ok | 22:40 |
| bonny | bonny@bonny-desktop:~$ java -jar minecraft.jar | 22:41 |
| bonny | Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar | 22:41 |
| bonny | bonny@bonny-desktop:~$ | 22:41 |
| bonny | its says unable to access | 22:41 |
| gomiboy | you have it on your home dir? | 22:42 |
| bonny | wat is dir? | 22:42 |
| bonny | u mean computer | 22:42 |
| bonny | ya i have it on my home computer | 22:42 |
| gomiboy | bonny: your home directory (dir) is where all your files resides | 22:43 |
| bonny | so.... yep so any other ideas mrchrisdruif | 22:43 |
| bonny | i have it on my desktop | 22:43 |
| bonny | /home/bonny/Desktop thats where i have it | 22:44 |
| gomiboy | then "cd Desktop" before executing java -jar | 22:44 |
| MrChrisDruif | gomiboy; Thanks | 22:44 |
| bonny | how do i do that just type cd desktop ? | 22:44 |
| gomiboy | MrChrisDruif: for what? :P | 22:45 |
| bonny | on terminal? | 22:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | bonny; Yup | 22:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | cd ~/Desktop | 22:45 |
| bonny | oh ok | 22:45 |
| gomiboy | bonny: commands are case sensitive... as MrChrisDruif says :D | 22:45 |
| bonny | it still says unable to acces | 22:46 |
| bonny | thats why it makes me think if i have java jdk | 22:46 |
| bonny | i have it as a executable file too | 22:47 |
| gomiboy | ok, type "ls -l" and paste here the line with your .jar | 22:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | Or post the entire outcome on paste.ubuntu.com | 22:48 |
| bonny | ok its cool i got it too work | 22:48 |
| bonny | i type java then i did java -jar minecraft | 22:49 |
| bonny | tthanks guys | 22:51 |
| bonny | gomiboy and mr chrisdruif thanks its been days since i tried to open this thing lol thanks :) | 22:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | Your welcome | 22:58 |
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