[00:09] <[yzf600]> I've got a pandaboard that I'm (trying) to run 11.04 on.
[00:09] <[yzf600]> I can get it installed and configured, but somewhere after the 2nd or 3rd boot, it quits booting
[00:10] <[yzf600]> gets stuck on "fmdrv: Unable to prepare FM CORE"
[00:10] <[yzf600]> I always make sure I do a proper shutdown -h to do the reboot.
[00:12] <[yzf600]> I also see folks saying installing the / to a usb flash stick will speed up the board.
[00:12] <[yzf600]> is that the only way to get faster speed?
[04:14] <Xase> Hello, I have written, and booted a ubuntu omap image on my Nook Color... or I assume it has booted as SD card takes priority in boot and the device doesn't boot normally, however Windows detects an unrecognizableusb device...
[04:14] <Xase> What's my next step to doing something with it?
[04:23] <Xase> Is there a way to access it over USB via my linux machine?
[04:24] <Xase> Or should I try to build a version that utilizes the graphics processor in the Nook Color, and its display?
[04:27] <Xase> It's always so... blah in here.
[04:31] <Matt_O> Xase, I'd try to help you but I have no idea what hardware you're talking about... hopefully that makes things less blah :)
[04:31] <Xase> Yes, would you like some info @ Matt_O ?
[04:31] <Xase> http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook-color-technical/3483-nookcolor-full-specifications.html#post19758
[04:33] <Xase> And as I said, it boots more or less, obviously however there is no display, though from what I understand, great work has went into this gpu it contains with xorg.
[04:41] <Xase> I'd imagine the sources for the Encore (Nook Color) Kernel would help in making a kernel for it as well?
[04:55] <Xase> And now we've returned to blah.
[05:10] <Xase> BBL
[08:19] <suihkulokki> ogra_: since you subscribed me to ubuntu-armel bugs, may you also tell me howto write a gmail filter to tag them ;)
[08:42] <amitk> lol
[08:43] <amitk> suihkulokki: look for the X-Launchapd-Message-Rationale header and other similar headers
[08:45] <amitk> suihkulokki: and http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/gmail-filters-for-launchpad-bug-email
[08:46] <amitk> suihkulokki: and finally the best one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFilter
[08:48] <suihkulokki> amitk: ah, the upper one was exactly what I want
[08:49] <suihkulokki> amitk: gmail doesn't allow filtering with headers, but with the words in mail it works around...
[08:52] <hrw> mail filtering is very poor
[08:54] <amitk> ?
[08:56] <hrw> s/mail/gmail
[08:58] <hrw> at least I had such feeling when last time tried it
[09:17] <ogra_> suihkulokki, i only follwed a request from your manager :P
[09:18] <lilstevie> heh
[09:21] <hrw> suihkulokki: rsalveti requested adding whole team to ubuntu-armel
[09:22] <hrw> for me it means more entries in Canonical/LP/bugs folder
[12:41] <rsalveti> suihkulokki: hrw: with gmail you can only filter with the email content, where it says why you received the email
[12:42] <rsalveti> and it's basically another way to trace arm bugs
[12:42] <rsalveti> generally the arm team add the ubuntu armel porters when triaging arm relevant bugs
[12:42] <ogra_> well, we have some that are related to our images only
[12:42] <rsalveti> sure, but that's fine :-)
[12:43] <rsalveti> ogra_: you can fix all of those ;-)
[12:43] <ogra_> which arent actually arch specific
[12:43] <ogra_> heh
[12:43] <ogra_> i plan to
[12:43] <ogra_> but first i will introduce a pile of new bugs ... else its no fun :)
[12:43]  * ogra_ uploads the ac100 kernel to the PPA 
[12:57] <lilstevie> lol
[13:57] <micahg> janimo: any chance you could look at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70865132/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.chromium-browser_11.0.696.57~r82915-0ubuntu0.10.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz as well if oneiric is going to break in different ways?  that's 2 versions old BTW, latest in -proposed
[13:58] <janimo> micahg, will check
[13:58] <micahg> janimo: thans
[13:58] <micahg> *thanks
[13:59] <janimo> micahg, this one looks like a packaging/config issue, as it luckily does not segfault
[13:59] <janimo> and upstream supports ARM well AFAIK
[14:00] <micahg> janimo: so, we're just missing a build-depends?
[14:00] <janimo> micahg, did not look that close - I need to remember how chromium build system works first :)
[14:01] <janimo> but there are simply undefined references to libjpeg-turbo, which is supported on ARM (android at least)
[14:01] <janimo> maybe never tested on regular linux
[14:01] <janimo> micahg, same versions of chromium go to both lucid and oneiric?
[14:02] <micahg> janimo: well, currently oneiric arm is FTBFS at .68, I've been skipped arm uploads for the stable releases since the last round failed
[14:03] <janimo> ok, right the ld segfault. But in principle you keep them up to date for all supported ubuntu releases I guess
[14:03] <micahg> janimo: yes, I only separated the source so we can push non-arm faster
[14:04] <janimo> separated the source?
[14:06] <micahg> janimo: made chromium-browser i386 and amd64 on stable, will upload chromium-browser-arm source for arm as soon as there's a good chance it will build
[14:09] <janimo> hmm, ok
[14:10] <micahg> janimo: unfortunately necessary since we have no lead time on the builds
[14:16] <Xase_> I'm soooo lost.
[14:20] <Xase_> So,  what kind of steps do I need to take while aiming to port ubuntu-arm to my device?
[14:21] <ogra_> what kind of device ?
[14:21] <ogra_> you usually only need the bootloader and a kernel and know how they boot the device
[14:21] <Xase_> Nook Color
[14:21] <ogra_> userspace very rarely differs
[14:21] <Xase_> Also known as the Encore
[14:21] <ogra_> Xase_, wait for GrueMaster to get up, he is working on an image for 11.10
[14:22] <Xase_> Well, when  I booted the omap image, it seems to boot, but obviously no display.
[14:22] <Xase_> For the Encore?
[14:22] <ogra_> ask him, i dont know which model he has
[14:22] <Xase_> Windows just let me know there's an unrecognized USB device connected once powered on.
[14:23] <Xase_> Alright ogra_, cause I'd love to be learning something useful in my life, and this seems to be the gateway for me.
[14:26] <Xase_> If Myriad group ported Dalvik to the N900... this means lots of good things.
[14:55] <alf_> Hi! I think ubuntu-arm images and instructions need more "visibility". I find it difficult to reach https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/* through web searches or the main Ubuntu page.
[14:58] <alf_> ogra_: janimo: ^^ just pinging to make sure the team is aware of this :)
[15:01] <ogra_> alf_, thanks, what would you suggest ?
[15:01] <lag> robclark: sebjan: ndec1: Do you know how I might contact Doug Deao?
[15:01] <ogra_> lag, you pung me yesterday ...
[15:01] <ogra_> anything important ?
[15:01] <lag> ogra_: Yes, you use multiple devices don't you?
[15:02] <lag> ogra_: Do you use a bip server?
[15:02] <robclark> hmm, not sure if I know who that is..
[15:02] <lag> robclark: Any way you can find out?
[15:02] <ogra_> lag, not to my knowledge
[15:02] <lag> ogra_: How do you collect backlog?
[15:02] <alf_> ogra_: for one make sure that the arm port is mentioned somewhere in the main ubuntu downloads page (eg in alternative downloads)
[15:03] <ogra_> lag, well, i use dircproxy on one machine and a direct connection on the other
[15:03] <ogra_> alf_, ah, well we might get an arm landing page at ubuntu.com, i usually find it easiest to just go to cdimage.ubuntu.com and process from there
[15:04] <lag> ogra_: I'm trying to prevent one device from swallowing all my backlog
[15:04] <ogra_> lag, well, dircproxy should do that for you, i have some issues here though (which is why i usually still leave another machine running with direct connection)
[15:04] <lag> ogra_: For instance, if I log in on my tablet, it swallows all the backlog
[15:05] <lag> ogra_: Okay, I might just leave it
[15:05] <lag> ogra_: If I miss a message, I miss a message
[15:05] <alf_> ogra_: sure, but you already know where to look for :)
[15:05] <lag> ogra_: If it's important, they can email :)
[15:05] <ogra_> for me dircproxy replays the backlog on every connect
[15:05] <ogra_> only the one since last connect though
[15:06] <ogra_> alf_, yeah, i agree we should have better exposure, i'm just not sure how, i guess we need to involve marketing for website stuff
[15:10] <hrw> lag: I have irssi inside of screen/tmux running on one my machines 24/7
[15:11] <lag> hrw: I use a bip server
[15:12] <lag> hrw: I like it, but whichever device logs on first, swallows all the backlog, which is then deleted from the server
[15:54] <camm`> Can anyone here field questions on arm thumb instruction coding?
[15:58] <GrueMaster> Xase_: Morning.  I haven't had a chance to dive into ubuntu on my nook color yet, but it is high on my todo list.
[16:25] <Xase_> GrueMaster: I'm willing to help, and learn.
[16:26] <GrueMaster> Excellent.  I'm a bit busy with high priority work this week, but keep your eyes posted.  It may require some tweaking of our standard kernel.
[16:26] <GrueMaster> My first step will be to build the B&N kernel into our image just to see if it works.
[16:26] <GrueMaster> Keep checking back here and at #nookcolor.
[16:29] <Xase_> Alright GrueMaster. I had an idea involving using the CyanogenMod Kernel as a test piece.
[16:29] <Xase_> Since it enables bluetooth.
[16:29] <GrueMaster> Not sure that it has the graphics support, but worth a shot.
[16:31] <Xase_> Well, they have a built kernel working for the Nook Color, but I'm sure you're already aware.
[16:31] <Xase_> Maybe you could give me a few good search terms, aimed at changing the kernel in the image, and I'll see what I can find and test on my own, and report to you.
[16:32] <GrueMaster> Do you have a linux system to work with?  Preferably Ubuntu?
[16:33] <Xase_> Yes
[16:33] <Xase_> I have ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop that I have hooked to my TV
[16:33] <Xase_> Hopefully if all goes well, I'll have a desktop I can dedicate to it.
[16:33] <GrueMaster> Cool.  My starting point was going to be with our netbook image.  See link in /topic
[16:35] <lilstevie> Xase_: porting takes a bit of effort
[16:35] <lilstevie> Xase_: first step is to get some form of interactivity
[16:36] <lilstevie> cracking interactivity was the key with the galaxy tab
[16:36] <GrueMaster> lilstevie: The nookcolor can boot from external SD.  Hard part is already done.
[16:36] <Xase_> GrueMaster: This link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ ?
[16:36] <GrueMaster> Xase_: Yes.
[16:36] <Xase_> kk just checking boss.
[16:37] <GrueMaster> Grab the omap image (not the omap4).
[16:37] <lilstevie> GrueMaster: that part is easy :p
[16:37] <GrueMaster> heh
[16:37] <Xase_> Yeah, the image booted, and made noise in my devicemanager on windows... but obviously failed to register :D
[16:37] <GrueMaster> lilstevie: Not for some systems that don't boot externally.  :P
[16:37] <lilstevie> interactivity was a bitch for the tab
[16:37] <Xase_> Well... somewhat booted.
[16:37] <lilstevie> GrueMaster: the tab doesnt boot externally either
[16:37] <Xase_> The galaxy tab has ubuntu?
[16:37] <Xase_> Lollol
[16:38] <lilstevie> Xase_: yes it does, I made sure of that
[16:38] <Xase_> I don't like the tab... it feels chunky.
[16:38] <lilstevie> I love it :)
[16:38] <Xase_> I'd rather have it than the Xoom though.
[16:38] <lilstevie> oh you are talking about the 10.1?
[16:38] <lilstevie> I am talking about the original 7" device
[16:38] <Xase_> Yeah.
[16:38] <Xase_> The 7" is nice.
[16:39] <lilstevie> 10.1 is a different beast
[16:39] <Xase_> So how hard is it to replace the kernel do you think?
[16:39] <lilstevie> do you have fastboot
[16:39] <Xase_> Easy enough for me to do, if I'm semi-adept with the terminal?
[16:40] <Xase_> I uh... dunno honestly.
[16:40] <Xase_> I don't think so...
[16:40] <Xase_> I think just CWM
[16:40] <Xase_> I don't recall installing it, and I wouldn't imagine it'd be default on the Encore.
[16:40] <lilstevie> fastboot is bootloader level
[16:40] <Xase_> Power and vol down right?
[16:41] <lilstevie> it is a utility you run
[16:41] <Xase_> Yeah, it interfaces with the bootloader.
[16:41] <GrueMaster> Xase_: After pulling down the image, you can decompress it and then mount the boot partition with "mount <image> <mntpoint> -o loop,offset=$((512*63))"
[16:42] <GrueMaster> You will need to install uboot-mkimage tomake a uboot kernel.
[16:42] <Xase_> Alright.
[16:43] <Xase_> So fairly straight forward from there if I find the right links?
[16:43] <GrueMaster> I'd grab the MLO, u-boot, uImage, & uInitrd from the CM image and put them on the ubuntu image.
[16:44] <GrueMaster> But yea, fairly straight forward.
[16:44] <Xase_> So, I won't have to make the uboot kernel at first, just after testing CM7 kernel?
[16:49] <GrueMaster> Right. Sorry, still working on my first coffee of the morning.
[16:49] <Xase_> Same.
[16:49] <GrueMaster> If that works, then I guess we may not need the B&N kernel.
[16:52] <Xase_> I'd personally pull for either or... I really am a fan of the wifi powering down during sleep... though some people call it a bug, however some people really like bluetooth, and cyanogenmod is probably more optimized for other things.
[16:52] <Xase_> I don't think stock bn has ext4 support =/
[16:52] <Xase_> for example.
[16:54] <GrueMaster> Neither does our image currently.
[16:54] <GrueMaster> The kernel has it, but the image is ext3.
[16:55] <GrueMaster> Mainly because the ext4 support was unstable in the kernel we used for omap4 until around Beta 1.  Never got around to switching it.
[17:05] <Xase_> Lol
[17:05] <Xase_> Well I'll just use the BN kernel then at that case
[17:06] <Xase_> If I want to download something I'll just have to keep awake
[17:08] <GrueMaster> If this works, you still won't be able to do much.  It will boot, but it will go into oem config, which requires a keyboard.  Hopefully we can get on-screen keyboard support in Oneiric.
[17:10] <Xase_> Why can't it be done now? I'm not making a complanitory statement, just curious as to why @ GrueMaster
[17:11] <Xase_> Is there a way to trigger bluetooth support at start? Because I have a bluetooth keyboard...
[17:11] <Xase_> Well, I guess not, because I'd need to be able to config the bluetooth pairing.
[17:11] <ogra_> GrueMaster, just chrooting into the image and installing florence should be possible
[17:12] <GrueMaster> ogra_: Can that be done from an x86 host? I have a beagleXM  I can use to manipulate the image with, but others may not.
[17:13] <ogra_> yes, using qemu-kvm-extras-static and copying qemu-arm-static inot the image to /usr/bin
[17:13] <ogra_> then you can just chroot
[17:14] <GrueMaster> Ah.
[17:14] <GrueMaster> We should add that to the wiki.
[17:14] <ogra_> i think it is *somewhere* on the wiki :)
[17:14] <ogra_> i once asked dyfet to write it up
[17:14] <ogra_> hmm ... so it miught probably not be ...
[17:15] <GrueMaster> Yea, that probably happened.
[17:15] <GrueMaster> :P
[17:16] <Xase_> 0
[17:16] <Xase_> Sorry. my daughter is eating lunch in my lap
[17:17] <ogra_> as long as you dont spill it into the channel on our laps thats fine ...
[17:17] <GrueMaster> Heh.
[17:18] <Xase_> Well she likes the keys, so the most you might get is some chicken finger grease in your circuits.
[17:18] <ogra_> ah, thats fine ... fat makes the electrons flow faster
[17:18] <Xase_> Good news, just got a monitor, and now can fix this desktop.
[17:19] <Xase_> Gotta wait till she naps to rig it.
[17:45] <Xase_> Blah
[18:27] <xc0ffee1> hi.. I am trying to compile Ubuntu Natty Kernel for Beagle Board (OMAP3).. which kernel source should I take?
[19:59] <Xase> Woo.
[19:59] <Xase> Internet went down.
[21:15] <arune> nooo, the whole internet went down?
[21:42] <Xase> No.
[21:42] <Xase> Mine
[21:42] <Xase> Trying to nmake a ubuntu disc
[21:44] <Xase> GrueMaster: what was that line for mountlooping the image.
[21:52] <Xase> GAH.
[21:53] <Xase> Now my work has been halted by a lack of information.
[22:03]  * Xase whittles a sharp pointy stick, because that's all whittling is good for.
[22:11] <Xase> ...
[22:37] <NCommander> ScottK: ar eyou going to be the product manager for the armel+mx51 ?
[23:07] <GrueMaster> Xase: Sorry, had to run some errands.  To loopmount the image, first type "file <image> " to figure out the start sector of the partition you want.
[23:09] <GrueMaster> Then type "sudo mount <image> <mountpoint> -o loop,offset=$((512*<start sector>))"  Where <start sector is the sector of the partition you want.  63, for first, 144585 (usually) for the second.
[23:14] <Xase> =(
[23:14] <Xase> It's okay :D
[23:16] <Xase> GrueMaster: which sector has the kernel?
[23:17] <Xase> Or which sector should I mount?
[23:18] <GrueMaster> For boot, the first partition.  The second partition has the rootfs.
[23:19] <Xase> And boot contains kernel correct?
[23:19] <GrueMaster> Boot has the xloader (MLO), uboot, and uboot modified kernel & initrd.
[23:20] <GrueMaster> The rootfs has /boot with vmlinuz, initrd.img, and all the modules.
[23:21] <GrueMaster> Same as your desktop.
[23:21] <Xase> Hmm
[23:21] <Xase> =/
[23:22] <Xase> Slight problem, I just get the help for mount while running that command.
[23:22] <GrueMaster> Make sure to replace all of the <> sections I told you.
[23:23] <GrueMaster> and no quotes.
[23:23] <Xase> I did... should I maintain the <> ?
[23:23] <GrueMaster> no
[23:23] <Xase> That's what I thought.
[23:23] <Xase> oh...
[23:23] <Xase> lollollol
[23:23] <Xase> forgot -o
[23:23] <GrueMaster> heh.  -oops
[23:24] <Xase> Ok I see those files...
[23:25] <Xase> Now should I just decompress CM7's flashable zip, and take the same files from it, and just overwrite or what?
[23:25] <GrueMaster> Yes.
[23:25] <GrueMaster> That is usually the easiest.
[23:26] <Xase> kk I'll report back after I'm done, gotta transfer over the stuff, I haven't networked that desktop yet.
[23:26] <Xase> Have I mentioned I kind of dislike unity.
[23:26] <GrueMaster> Heh
[23:26] <GrueMaster> It actually isn't that bad on a netbook.
[23:26] <Xase> No I like it on netbookms...
[23:26] <Xase> But... it blows on desktop
[23:26] <GrueMaster> Sucks on a 24" 1080p monitor.
[23:28] <Xase> Sucks on a 56" monitor in 720p ;)
[23:28] <GrueMaster> Heh
[23:28] <Xase> The feeling is mutual :D
[23:28] <Xase> Hmm
[23:35] <Xase> GrueMaster:  I assume that stuff is in the ramdisk.img contained with in the zip?
[23:35] <Xase> Can I just loop that without an offset?
[23:36] <Xase> Guess not...
[23:36] <GrueMaster> Not sure.  What was the link to the CM7 file?  Let me pull it and look.
[23:36] <Xase> "Must Specify Filesystem Type"
[23:36] <Xase> http://mirror.cyanogenmod.com/get/update-cm-7.0.3-encore-signed.zip
[23:37] <Xase> It contains u-boot legacy uImage Image
[23:37] <Xase> and some other stuff
[23:37] <Xase> Maybe it'd just be easier for sanity sake to just build it :D
[23:38] <GrueMaster> Pulling, give me a sec.
[23:38] <Xase> You must have amazing internet...
[23:39] <GrueMaster> I wouldn't worry aboutthe ramdisk.img
[23:39] <GrueMaster> Actually, I'm at my mothers.  She only has basic DSL.
[23:39] <GrueMaster> 1.5/768
[23:39] <Xase> I just moved from having 1.8mb to 175Kb
[23:39] <GrueMaster> ouch
[23:39] <Xase> Yeah.
[23:40] <GrueMaster> Getting 512K/s atm.
[23:40] <Xase> I don't see the files elswhere in the file.
[23:42] <Xase> =/
[23:43] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  looking at the zip file now.  Interesting.
[23:44] <Xase> file ./ramdisk.img yields: u-boot legacy uImage, Image, Linux/ARM, RAMDisk Image (gzip)
[23:45] <GrueMaster> Yea, that isw the ramdisk image.  THis looks like only an update, not an image that you could boot from.
[23:45] <GrueMaster> *isn't
[23:45] <Xase> oh snap
[23:45] <GrueMaster> The kernel may be usefull, but still need MLO and possibly uboot.
[23:46] <Xase> I'll take a look inside the nightly
[23:46] <Xase> The nightly is the full install at least.
[23:47] <GrueMaster> I have the B&N source for their v1.2 release.  Iwas going to base off of that.