[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
[07:24] <nigelb> good morning dholbach
[07:25] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:25] <nigelb> ugh, my sleep is way beyond whacked out
[07:25] <nigelb> I ended up sleeping at 4 in the morning last night
[07:41] <popey> AlanBell: read only text
[07:51] <AlanBell> ok
[08:16] <dpm> good morning all!
[08:26] <nigelb> morning dpm :)
[08:28] <dpm> hey nigelb
[09:05] <kim0> morning everyone
[09:11] <nigelb> morning kim0
[09:11] <kim0> nigelb: hey :)
[09:16] <nigelb> anyone know if the group photo is available yet?
[09:56] <daker> Yo check that http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[10:01] <kim0> daker: wow :D qemu in js ?!
[10:01] <daker> just an emulator ツ
[10:02] <kim0> but it's really booting right
[10:02] <kim0> cpu is 100% .. so it must be doing something hard :)
[10:03] <kim0> I got a kernel panic .. lol
[10:03] <daker> LoL
[10:10] <daker> Yo kim0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guWrk5lXaLU the prison is about 20min
[10:12] <daker> from where i live ツ
[10:13] <dpm> morning kim0, morning daker
[10:13] <daker> yo
[10:51] <kim0> daker: so things don't look too stable for Morocco yet
[10:52] <daker> yes :/
[10:52] <daker> people are happy with the govt
[10:53] <daker> kim0, http://www.map.ma/eng/sections/home/govt._spoksperson_sa9764/view
[11:01] <kim0> daker: same crap :) like the biggest secret police center that was 5 mins from my home, was a huge torture place as well. Even the US was using those people's torture experience .. yikes
[11:02] <daker> :/
[11:03] <daker> i hate the US govt
[11:11] <dholbach> while I whole-heartedly understand the frustration, this discussion has serious flamewar potential - I hope everyone in here is reasonable :)
[11:12] <daker> ツ
[11:14] <popey> +1
[11:14]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[11:20] <nigelb> komputes: ahoy
[11:24] <cjohnston> All the UDSers who were confused when it comes to subscribing to blueprints will hopefully be less confused now: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+spec/community-o-loco-directory/+subscribe
[11:32] <komputes> Hi nigelb
[11:33] <nigelb> komputes: Got home alright after the extra day?
[11:33]  * nigelb hugs cjohnston
[11:33] <komputes> nigelb: for sure, good to be back home
[11:33] <nigelb> komputes: heh :)
[11:55]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[11:59] <dholbach> popey, Technoviking, pleia2, CC meeting?
[11:59] <popey> o/ dholbach
[12:46] <kim0> dholbach: are you aware of someone working on a sphinx docs based Ubuntu theme?
[12:51] <dholbach> kim0, hang on
[12:51]  * kim0 hangs on an imaginary rope
[12:52] <kim0> I wonder if we can write plain html (output from sphinx) into the Ubuntu wiki /!
[12:52] <dholbach> kim0, https://code.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-packaging-guide/new-colours/+merge/56010
[12:53] <kim0> dholbach: thanks man :) anywhere I can see this theme in action
[12:54] <dholbach> kim0, something like http://ubuntuone.com/p/kvg/?
[12:54] <dholbach> at least that's what's linked in there
[12:54] <kim0> yeah looks good!
[12:56] <kim0> dholbach: any previous experience inserting html directly into the wiki ?
[12:56] <dholbach> kim0, no
[13:01] <nigelb> dholbach: the theme is beautiful.
[13:05] <dholbach> not my work :)
[13:07] <nigelb> heh
[14:19] <jcastro> man
[14:19] <jcastro> my bp's and work items are a mess
[14:19] <jcastro> dholbach: when does the graph start?
[14:25] <nigelb> jcastro: join the club :/
[14:31] <akgraner_> nigelb,was awesome meeting you finally!
[14:31] <nigelb> akgraner_: you too!
[14:32] <nigelb> akgraner_: hows your knee now?
[14:32] <akgraner_> and hggdh I can't wait to what this cycle brings
[14:32] <daker> kim0, {{{#!html
Yo Yo!</b>
[14:32] <daker> }}}
[14:32] <akgraner_> nigelb, heading to the hospital now
[14:32] <kim0> daker: wow :)
[14:32] <kim0> daker: did you test that
[14:32] <nigelb> akgraner_: Hope you are fine soon
[14:33] <akgraner_> still can't walk on it,,but that's not stopping me
[14:33] <nigelb> akgraner_: Never had as much fun as the lightning talk. We were whispering the whole time! :-P
[14:33] <akgraner_> from doing my ubuntu stuff
[14:33]  * nigelb hugs akgraner_
[14:33] <akgraner_> thanks nigelb you all rock!!
[14:34] <daker> kim0, yes
[14:35] <akgraner_> hggdh, thanks for all your encouragement can't wait to work on all the testing stuff next cycle should be fun,,,,
[14:35] <kim0> daker: kewl!
[14:36] <akgraner_> laters y'all!
[14:36] <kim0> daker: would you think the wiki's css would be applied auto-magically ?
[14:36] <daker> i have no idea
[14:37] <kim0> daker: will take a look .. thanks a lot though .. that was helpful
[14:38] <daker> wy
[14:38] <kim0> detected finger clock skew
[14:40] <kim0> natty starting to get updates after uds .. lovely :)
[14:41] <hggdh> akgraner: my unending pleasure :-) we need the community
[15:28] <dholbach> jcastro, I have no idea - pitti should know
[15:55] <nigelb> jcastro: for the IRC rooster, I would recommend something like what LP team does. CHR.
[15:56] <nigelb> (Just saw the unity BP, I didn't have a time machine to attend that session)
[15:56] <jcastro> yeah
[16:02] <daker> URGENT: there is a bug on https://forms.canonical.com/lococd
[16:03] <daker> everyone can request CDs even if he is the team owner
[16:24] <jcastro> dholbach: dpm: kim0: check this out
[16:24] <jcastro> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/u/jorge.html
[16:24] <jcastro> you can have your own personal burndown
[16:24] <jcastro> I did not know this
[16:24] <dholbach> me neither
[16:24] <dpm> uh, it's new for me too!
[16:26] <dpm> oh man, now our boss can even be more on our backs, we should talk to pitti about this ;)
[16:27] <dpm> but on the more serious side, it's cool to have a per-person overview
[16:28] <jcastro> I kind of need it
[16:28] <jcastro> I  was only paying attention to the team view last cycle
[16:28] <jcastro> and then one week someone was like "what about this work item?"
[16:29] <jcastro> and it was for some other team and I totally forgot
[16:29] <jono> dpm, wrapping up, will be a few mins then ready
[16:29] <jussi> jcastro: how does one get these ? are they available for community members?
[16:30] <dpm> jono, ok!
[16:31] <jcastro> jussi: I would assume so
[16:35] <nigelb> jussi: I think everyone who has a workitem in the burndown chart gets one
[16:35] <nigelb> anyway, status.ubuntu.com should be up soon, cjohnston was working on it.
[16:36] <jcastro> jono: and crew: topic is updated with the new burn down
[16:38] <nigelb> jcastro: *lots* more BP's to show up isn't there?
[16:38] <jcastro> yeah, it runs hourly
[16:38] <jcastro> people need to go back and sort their WI's now
[18:00] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[18:48] <nigelb> jcastro: ping
[18:49] <nigelb> jcastro: We have an action item to remove blueprints from summit.  Checking with you that its actually obsolete before going ahead.  Apparently it used to feature in sponsorship applications and stuff.
[18:50] <nigelb> jcastro: could you add your comments to bug 783291?
[18:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 783291 in summit "Brainstorm should be removed from summit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/783291
[18:55] <jcastro> nigelb: looking
[18:55] <jcastro> ok confused
[18:55] <jcastro> the bug says brainstorm
[18:55] <jcastro> not blueprints
[18:55] <jcastro> I am pretty sure we're not removing blueprints right?
[18:56] <jcastro> Technoviking: you got that mail I sent you from steve?
[19:00] <jcastro> joey: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/summit/+spec/community-o-summit
[19:00] <jcastro> ^^ you need to ensure your requirements from linaro are communicated there and via bug reports
[19:00] <jcastro> ie. for things like private meetings and all that
[19:01] <joey> jcastro: I went to the summit session and my items were in the etherpad notes
[19:04] <jcastro> joey: yeah you just need to make sure that what you want/need are bug reports and/or work items
[19:04] <jcastro> WI's are the currency, because if it's not assigned it Did Not Happen(tm)
[19:05] <joey> cjohnston is going to make all my problems disappear, ain't that right cjohnston? :-)
[19:05] <nigelb> jcastro: sorry, I meant brainstorm, not blueprints
[19:05] <joey> jcastro: I have some items on the list for james w as well and I suspect he'll bug those that don't already exist
[19:06] <nigelb> joey: he already has bugged a bunch :)
[19:06] <jcastro> joey: right, just saying, doublecheck. :) When it comes to summit, one can never be too sure!
[19:06] <jcastro> nigelb: I +1ed your idea
[19:06] <jcastro> I didn't even know what summit would have to do with brainstorm
[19:06] <nigelb> jcastro: Hey give us some credit, we only deployed thrice during UDS ;)
[19:07] <jcastro> hahaha
[19:07] <jcastro> cowboys
[19:07] <jcastro> you're lucky we didn't all get killed
[19:08] <nigelb> joey: haha, did you adopt cjohnston? :p
[19:08] <nigelb> jcastro: well, this cycle is going to be more structured hoepfully.
[19:08] <joey> nigelb: I think he adopted me and then I became interested in the whole summit aspect and thus adopted all of you :-D
[19:08] <nigelb> joey: hahaha
[19:09] <nigelb> But I think we actually have a plan of action this time around :)
[19:10] <nigelb> joey: btw, we moved to #ubuntu-website for all web dev related topics
[19:10] <nigelb> (which includes summit and LD)
[19:11] <nigelb> jcastro: I started removing it and saw old sponsorship forms that were linked to blueprint ideas and wanted to cross check with you
[19:12] <nigelb> jcastro: Also, I need to work with you and figure out fine-grained access controls for track leads
[19:12] <jcastro> ~uds-planners is the team
[19:12] <jcastro> who needs access
[19:12] <jcastro> everyone else = NOYUO
[19:12] <nigelb> NOYUO?
[19:13] <jcastro> no access
[19:13] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~uds-organizers
[19:13] <jcastro> this team should be able to admin and schedule
[19:13] <jcastro> everyone else, no joy.
[19:13] <nigelb> jcastro: and sponsorship?
[19:13] <nigelb> should everyone there see all the sponsorship stuff?
[19:13] <jcastro> nope
[19:14] <nigelb> jcastro: that's where we need to fine-grain it
[19:14] <jcastro> ah
[19:14] <nigelb> like a group of people who have full access + a group of people who can schedule.
[19:14] <paultag> holy jeez i'm hung over
[19:14] <nigelb> paultag: what else is new? :P
[19:14]  * nigelb hugs paultag
[19:14] <paultag> nigelb: like ungodly
[19:14]  * paultag hugs nigelb 
[19:14] <paultag> ugh, owwwwwch
[19:14] <paultag> and I had to do math this morning
[19:15] <paultag> we do this thing with local high schools, we have an all day math-a-thon with all sorts of tests
[19:15] <paultag> and I was poached to do it this year, my god. It's so hard to sit quietly when your hung over
[19:15] <paultag> nevermind quietly, just sit
[19:15] <nigelb> haha
[19:16] <paultag> owww.
[19:17] <nigelb> paultag: Got my first LP patch accepted today \o/
[19:18] <nigelb> paultag: Came a long long way from the random guy 2 years back asking you how to contribute to open source ;)
[19:18] <paultag> nigelb: wooo
[19:18]  * paultag hugs nigelb 
[19:18]  * nigelb hugs paultag
[19:18] <cjohnston> howdy
[19:19] <paultag> nigelb: you've come a long way, man. I'm proud to call you a friend :)
[19:19] <nigelb> paultag: as I am proud to call you my friend too
[19:19] <paultag> :)
[19:19] <cjohnston> Get a room!
[19:20] <nigelb> haha
[19:20] <nigelb> cjohnston: meanie :P
[19:20] <paultag> :P
[19:20] <cjohnston> so paultag.. I am now employed as a dive master
[19:20] <joey> nigelb: cjohnston  do you want me on -website or should I stay here so I'm out of your hair (figuratively)
[19:21] <cjohnston> -website for websiteish discussions
[19:21] <paultag> cjohnston: NICE!!!!!!
[19:21] <cjohnston> what hair
[19:21] <paultag> cjohnston: That's awesome news!!!!!
[19:21] <nigelb> joey: we'd love to have you there :)
[19:21] <paultag> cjohnston: Kickass! How many dives a week?
[19:21] <nigelb> cjohnston: CONGRATS!
[19:21] <cjohnston> depends on the number of people
[19:21] <paultag> cjohnston: aye
[19:21] <cjohnston> also store time tho :-/
[19:21] <joey> cjohnston: congrats!
[19:21] <paultag> cjohnston: at least you can work on your own gear when it's quiet
[19:22] <cjohnston> hehehe
[19:22] <paultag> ;)
[19:22] <paultag> cjohnston: really great news, congrats. I'd be stoked :)
[19:22] <cjohnston> ty :-)
[19:22] <joey> cjohnston: wish you told me. I have a bunch of dive gear I'm not using any more
[19:22] <cjohnston> lol
[19:22] <joey> cjohnston: I left the dive SAR team
[19:23] <nigelb> wow
[19:23] <paultag> I just got my class time finished off. I need to do my checkout rides, though
[19:23] <paultag> (PADI OW)
[19:24] <cjohnston> You cool
[19:24] <cjohnston> cool
[19:24] <nigelb> cjohnston: we are getting a status.ubuntu.com right?
[19:24] <cjohnston> joey: you can see me again in August ;-)
[19:24] <cjohnston> yes
[19:24] <nigelb> cjohnston: is there a place I can see the code for it?
[19:24] <cjohnston> ya
[19:24] <nigelb> cjohnston: hahaha, August
[19:25] <nigelb> cjohnston: link me please?
[19:25] <cjohnston> blah
[19:25] <cjohnston> lmgtfm.com?
[19:25] <cjohnston> I don't remember.. give me a few
[19:26] <nigelb> cjohnston: sure, np
[19:28] <cjohnston> Mr. Metal not around today?
[19:30] <nigelb> cjohnston: nvm, found it
[19:30] <cjohnston> which did you find.
[19:30] <cjohnston> the linaro one or the other one
[19:31] <doctormo> Does anyone know where I can get a Spanish translation done quickly?
[19:32] <cjohnston> google.com/translate
[19:37] <doctormo> cjohnston: Yeah not quite good enough yet, hoping to find a human.
[19:37] <cjohnston> #ubuntu-es?
[19:42] <doctormo> cjohnston: Turns out bad idea :-) ubuntu-es is for support only. Speak english and get told off ;-) so #ubuntu-es-offtopic perhaps.
[19:42] <doctormo> But I found someone through there anyway, thanks for the good suggestion.
[19:46] <cjohnston> True.. offtopic
[19:52] <Technoviking> jcastro: I did, I sent it to the FC. They want more example, so I'm going to compile a list
[20:10] <jcastro> ok
[20:15] <jcastro> Technoviking: I'll follow up with jfo when he's back online
[20:15] <jcastro> jono: did you want to catch up today?
[20:16] <jono> jcastro, yes, lets talk soon, just finishing a deck up now
[20:19] <jcastro> you're building a deck?
[20:19] <paultag> are we talking magic?
[20:34] <jcastro> popey: everyone hates the brown!
[20:44] <jono> jcastro, slide deck :-)
[20:45] <jono> d.u.c req gathering and dev workflow
[20:45]  * AlanBell is just glad you didn't call it a powerpoint
[20:51] <AlanBell> so this burndown chart thing, how does it work?
[20:55] <jcastro> AlanBell: it takes all the items from a lp whiteboard
[20:55] <jcastro> like
[20:55] <jcastro> [jorge] do foor
[20:55] <jcastro> [jono] do bar
[20:55] <jcastro> and then it makes a chart of all of them
[20:55] <jcastro> then it draws a line down to release date
[20:55] <jcastro> and basically it paces your progress towards release
[20:56] <AlanBell> great, so who does the move from blueprint whiteboard to the burndown chart?
[20:56] <jcastro> there's a script pitti runs
[20:56] <AlanBell> I can see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-accessibility-team isn't on it yet
[20:57] <jcastro> I think maybe jono needs to mark a certain status for the bp or something?
[20:58] <jcastro> mine haven't shown up yet either
[20:58] <AlanBell> yeah, there is a whole heap more, that was just an example
[20:59] <jcastro> yeah I don't know that magic part
[20:59] <AlanBell> ok
[21:00] <jcastro> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/all.html
[21:00] <jcastro> I only did add mine today
[21:00] <jcastro> so I will give it 24 hours
[21:00] <jcastro> I had all mine in the etherpad and hadn't moved them to the bp's yet
[21:00] <jcastro> oh dude
[21:01] <jcastro> I think you need Work items:
[21:01] <jcastro> in the whiteboard
[21:01] <cjohnston> jono said he had to accept them or something
[21:01] <james_w> Series goal:
[21:01] <james_w> None
[21:01] <james_w> needs to be oneiric
[21:02] <james_w> or rather "Accepted for oneiric"
[21:02] <cjohnston> james_w: what about for BPs that arent filed agains ubuntu
[21:02] <cjohnston> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+spec/community-o-loco-directory
[21:02] <james_w> that needs a config change
[21:03] <cjohnston> in the blueprint?
[21:03] <james_w> in the workitems tracker
[21:03] <jono> cjohnston, accept what?
[21:04] <cjohnston> jono: I thought you said that for blueprints to show up in the work items tracker you had to review them or accept them or something
[21:04] <jono> yes
[21:04] <cjohnston> thats what I was trying to say
[21:05] <jono> ahhh cool :-)
[21:05] <jcastro> jono: ok so are we supposed to bug you to accept the blueprints or is that something you just do at one point?
[21:07] <jono> jcastro, I will accept blueprints I want to manage on the burndown
[21:07] <jono> jcastro, we can talk more about this in our call
[21:07] <jcastro> ok
[21:08] <jono> jcastro, can we talk in about 20mins?
[21:08] <jcastro> sure
[21:09] <Technoviking> jcastro: sounds good, as soon as I catch up at work I will start on the list
[21:21] <jono> jcastro, wanna talk?
[21:21] <jono> while I make a coffee too
[21:22] <jcastro> jono: sure give me 30 seconds, and skype me up
[21:22] <jono> np
[21:25] <jono> jcastro, one sec, someone pinging me, getting rid of them
[21:26] <jono> jcastro, ok, dialing
[21:27] <cjohnston> my stupid coffee machine broke while we were in budapest!
[21:28] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'm so sorry for your loss
[21:29] <cjohnston> I know
[21:29] <cjohnston> and its a kureig
[21:30] <mhall119> I don't know what that means
[21:31] <cjohnston> http://www.keurig.com/
[22:20] <paultag> K-Cups are the spawn of the devil
[22:20] <paultag> but they are so convenent
[22:23] <mhall119> I have the $20 walmart branch coffee maker
[22:25] <cjohnston> paultag: they are wonderful
[22:25] <paultag> I have a coffee press. It's cheep (+1), makes super awesome coffee (+1), and never needs filters (+1)
[22:25] <paultag> cjohnston: they are easy and fun, but the stuff inside is drab and old :(
[22:26] <cjohnston> inside meaning the coffee?
[22:26] <paultag> cjohnston: if you want to call it that
[22:26] <cjohnston> its wonderful
[22:26] <cjohnston> different flavors
[22:26] <paultag> I call it coffee flavored ex-living material
[22:26] <cjohnston> lol
[22:26] <paultag> :)
[22:27] <paultag> <-- a bit of a snob about most things