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mdkej1mc: around?08:32
j1mcmdke: hey08:32
mdkeheya!08:32
mdkehow's the jetlag?08:32
j1mci'm loving it.  it doesn't help that i slept for a good part of the afternoon today.08:33
mdkehah08:33
mdkeI just wanted to catch up on where we are with natty docs08:33
j1mcsure08:33
j1mcstart with natty docs, i guess08:34
mdkeI think we said that we would have a hard freeze around 15 May08:34
mdkeare we at the stage where we can do that?08:34
j1mci can give a read through, but i think we went through bug reports pretty quickly.08:35
mdkeThere are still a few stubs and such around08:35
j1mci would think that we could have a hard freeze. there are some bugs in my 'bugs' folder, but i think some of them are kubuntu-related08:35
mdkeperhaps we should move them to stub pages and then have the freeze08:35
j1mci haven't had a chance to go through them, but can do so in a day or so08:35
mdkedo you think it is worth having a bit more time on those?08:36
mdkeWe can be relaxed about when we freeze08:36
j1mci'll have to take a look and see what kind of topics they are. are they page.stub files?08:36
mdkeno08:37
mdkenet-email.page08:37
mdkenet-problem.page08:37
mdkenet-security.page08:37
mdkenet-wired.page08:37
mdkeunity-launcher.page08:37
j1mcor just listed as "stub' for their status?08:37
mdkeyeah08:37
mdkeI think I marked the net ones as stubs08:37
j1mcok - we can review those. perhaps then freeze?08:37
mdkethat sounds good to me.08:37
j1mcme, too.08:38
mdkethe spanish translators finished everything!08:38
mdkequite impressive...08:38
j1mcthat is amazing08:38
j1mcthey were really quick on translating the gnome docs, too.08:38
j1mcalways lots of updates from them08:38
mdkeyeah, they had that head start08:39
mdkeabout half the strings or so came from upstream in the end I think08:39
j1mcnice!08:39
mdkeok, I'll send an email along those lines, thanks08:39
mdkeUDS was fun?08:39
j1mcyeah - do you have an extra minute or two?08:39
mdkeyep08:40
j1mcthe strategy session was helpful, and i'm putting together a strategy document.08:40
j1mci'll have a draft ready within the week (i think) for the team to review08:40
j1mcand for 11.10... people gave us some good input there, too. but we can narrow our focus some to see what we can really get done for this cycle.08:41
j1mcbe reasonable with ourselves.08:41
mdkeyes, I agree completely08:41
j1mci'm not sure what to do about that docs platform. it seems neat, but there wouldn't be much support from upstream.08:41
j1mc(neither kde or gnome)08:42
j1mci would like to evaluate it, if only as a way of being considerate to the people who came out to demo it.08:42
j1mcit is open source stuff, so ... just helping out another open source docs team08:42
j1mci'm going to see if i can get accounts for people.  does that seem reasonable?08:43
mdkeyes, I think that's the right approach08:43
mdkeit's difficult for us if there is no upstream buy-in, because arguably it's not for us to drive new technologies, but perhaps if it was spectacularly useful it might be something we should look at08:43
j1mcok - thanks for at least that support. i feel/felt like i was going out on a bit of a limb, but it was worth looking at given what i knew about it.08:44
j1mcso... i'll be getting that stuff out soon, too.08:44
mdkeit's definitely worth looking at these things I think08:44
mdkeso just call a meeting whenever you're ready with the strategy document, I guess08:45
j1mcand i want to start a team blog!  :)  did you know there was an 'ubuntu tour' project that had translations??08:45
j1mci had no idea.08:45
mdkeI've seen some irc posts about it08:45
j1mccool... i will (re: the team meeting)08:45
mdkeis ubuntu tour good?08:46
j1mci'm not sure. it has some good ideas, i guess, but i think it was started before we worked on our new docs. before we had our own tour in the intro sections.08:46
j1mcso hopefully raising our profile a little bit will help to get a bit more attention and encourage people to work with us rather than starting new docs-related projects.08:47
j1mcit isn't just writers doing more work, but also translators.08:47
j1mcanyway, that's all for now...08:48
j1mci suppose you're off to work?08:48
mdkeshortly yeah08:48
mdkeI'm a bit behind today :)08:48
j1mcah, ok.08:48
j1mci was drafting a uds-related blog post that will cover a few more things08:48
j1mcbut that's most of it08:48
j1mcthanks for saying 'hey'08:49
mdkesounds like it was worthwhile08:49
mdkedid you get any input from the design people about unity terminology?08:49
j1mca bit... i actually need to follow-up with them a bit. i didn't get quite as much input from design folks as i had hoped, but some were helpful.08:50
j1mcpippa from the design team used to be a technical writer, so i think she'll be a good resource from their group08:50
mdkeoh cool08:50
j1mcand she pointed me to rober (or john?) lee, too, but i didn't get to talk to him.08:51
mdkeok08:52
mdkewell it sounds like you got a lot done anyway08:52
j1mci tried.  :)08:52
mdkeit was really good to have some docs sessions at uds for a change :)08:52
j1mc:)08:52
mdkethat in itself raises the profile08:52
mdkeand the team blog idea is a good one08:53
mdkeI have a dreamhost account which has a "one click" wordpress setup if you need it08:53
j1mccool08:53
j1mcwell, i think i'm going to try and catch a few Zzz's08:53
mdkealright, sleep well08:53
j1mcthanks. later, mdke08:54
UndiFineDmdke, did you catch barrydrake 's guide to natty ?09:34
mdkeUndiFineD: no20:54
UndiFineDgood morning :)20:55
UndiFineDhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Research?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=simple_guide_natty_unity.pdf20:56
UndiFineDmdke, also poke alanbell about an accessibility chapter he wrote20:56
mdkeUndiFineD: that's helpful, we are a bit short on accessibility material21:16
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