=== jjesse__ is now known as jjesse [08:32] j1mc: around? [08:32] mdke: hey [08:32] heya! [08:32] how's the jetlag? [08:33] i'm loving it. it doesn't help that i slept for a good part of the afternoon today. [08:33] hah [08:33] I just wanted to catch up on where we are with natty docs [08:33] sure [08:34] start with natty docs, i guess [08:34] I think we said that we would have a hard freeze around 15 May [08:34] are we at the stage where we can do that? [08:35] i can give a read through, but i think we went through bug reports pretty quickly. [08:35] There are still a few stubs and such around [08:35] i would think that we could have a hard freeze. there are some bugs in my 'bugs' folder, but i think some of them are kubuntu-related [08:35] perhaps we should move them to stub pages and then have the freeze [08:35] i haven't had a chance to go through them, but can do so in a day or so [08:36] do you think it is worth having a bit more time on those? [08:36] We can be relaxed about when we freeze [08:36] i'll have to take a look and see what kind of topics they are. are they page.stub files? [08:37] no [08:37] net-email.page [08:37] net-problem.page [08:37] net-security.page [08:37] net-wired.page [08:37] unity-launcher.page [08:37] or just listed as "stub' for their status? [08:37] yeah [08:37] I think I marked the net ones as stubs [08:37] ok - we can review those. perhaps then freeze? [08:37] that sounds good to me. [08:38] me, too. [08:38] the spanish translators finished everything! [08:38] quite impressive... [08:38] that is amazing [08:38] they were really quick on translating the gnome docs, too. [08:38] always lots of updates from them [08:39] yeah, they had that head start [08:39] about half the strings or so came from upstream in the end I think [08:39] nice! [08:39] ok, I'll send an email along those lines, thanks [08:39] UDS was fun? [08:39] yeah - do you have an extra minute or two? [08:40] yep [08:40] the strategy session was helpful, and i'm putting together a strategy document. [08:40] i'll have a draft ready within the week (i think) for the team to review [08:41] and for 11.10... people gave us some good input there, too. but we can narrow our focus some to see what we can really get done for this cycle. [08:41] be reasonable with ourselves. [08:41] yes, I agree completely [08:41] i'm not sure what to do about that docs platform. it seems neat, but there wouldn't be much support from upstream. [08:42] (neither kde or gnome) [08:42] i would like to evaluate it, if only as a way of being considerate to the people who came out to demo it. [08:42] it is open source stuff, so ... just helping out another open source docs team [08:43] i'm going to see if i can get accounts for people. does that seem reasonable? [08:43] yes, I think that's the right approach [08:43] it's difficult for us if there is no upstream buy-in, because arguably it's not for us to drive new technologies, but perhaps if it was spectacularly useful it might be something we should look at [08:44] ok - thanks for at least that support. i feel/felt like i was going out on a bit of a limb, but it was worth looking at given what i knew about it. [08:44] so... i'll be getting that stuff out soon, too. [08:44] it's definitely worth looking at these things I think [08:45] so just call a meeting whenever you're ready with the strategy document, I guess [08:45] and i want to start a team blog! :) did you know there was an 'ubuntu tour' project that had translations?? [08:45] i had no idea. [08:45] I've seen some irc posts about it [08:45] cool... i will (re: the team meeting) [08:46] is ubuntu tour good? [08:46] i'm not sure. it has some good ideas, i guess, but i think it was started before we worked on our new docs. before we had our own tour in the intro sections. [08:47] so hopefully raising our profile a little bit will help to get a bit more attention and encourage people to work with us rather than starting new docs-related projects. [08:47] it isn't just writers doing more work, but also translators. [08:48] anyway, that's all for now... [08:48] i suppose you're off to work? [08:48] shortly yeah [08:48] I'm a bit behind today :) [08:48] ah, ok. [08:48] i was drafting a uds-related blog post that will cover a few more things [08:48] but that's most of it [08:49] thanks for saying 'hey' [08:49] sounds like it was worthwhile [08:49] did you get any input from the design people about unity terminology? [08:50] a bit... i actually need to follow-up with them a bit. i didn't get quite as much input from design folks as i had hoped, but some were helpful. [08:50] pippa from the design team used to be a technical writer, so i think she'll be a good resource from their group [08:50] oh cool [08:51] and she pointed me to rober (or john?) lee, too, but i didn't get to talk to him. [08:52] ok [08:52] well it sounds like you got a lot done anyway [08:52] i tried. :) [08:52] it was really good to have some docs sessions at uds for a change :) [08:52] :) [08:52] that in itself raises the profile [08:53] and the team blog idea is a good one [08:53] I have a dreamhost account which has a "one click" wordpress setup if you need it [08:53] cool [08:53] well, i think i'm going to try and catch a few Zzz's [08:53] alright, sleep well [08:54] thanks. later, mdke [09:34] mdke, did you catch barrydrake 's guide to natty ? [20:54] UndiFineD: no [20:55] good morning :) [20:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Research?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=simple_guide_natty_unity.pdf [20:56] mdke, also poke alanbell about an accessibility chapter he wrote [21:16] UndiFineD: that's helpful, we are a bit short on accessibility material === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [22:09] UBT Wiki FG meeting just started. Anyone who wants to join #ubuntu-meeting is welcome