[00:03] <cjwatson> azeem: I agree with other commenters; I don't think the relatively small benefit of avoiding a few manual sync requests outweighs the risk of automatically-induced mistakes.  IME (I process the bulk of manual sync requests) it's rare for the Debian text to be identical to the Ubuntu text anyway.
[00:04] <cjwatson> Also rare for people to include the entire Ubuntu changelog.  To a first approximation I only see it when the package didn't previously exist in Debian.
[00:11] <lfaraone> maco, ajmitch, could've sworn I signed both...
[00:13] <ajmitch> lfaraone: yeah I misread, it was maco that forgot :)
[00:13]  * ajmitch shouldn't read email from the list archives
[00:14] <lfaraone> hah. Actually, that was how I got the right message-id for the thread. (I don't subscribe to newmaint)
[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
[07:45] <Rhonda> Hmm, I guess I should drop the idea of PPU rights, with no endorsements I guess I won't get anywhere. :)
[07:46]  * Rhonda . o O ( *shamelessplug* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GerfriedFuchs/DeveloperApplication )
[07:46] <ajmitch> Rhonda: where are you trying to get endorsements?
[07:46]  * ajmitch goes to look
[07:49] <Rhonda> \o/ for 500 Internal Server Erorr
[07:49] <ajmitch> heh
[07:49] <Rhonda> Error even, but if one would type Error as Error, it wouldn't be an Error, would it?
[07:52]  * ajmitch hasn't directly sponsored uploads of yours, but has seen your work
[07:53] <ajmitch> I think I can endorse you
[07:53] <Rhonda> I think there weren't any sponsored uploads of mine. %-)
[07:53] <Rhonda> Well, none for these three packages anyway.
[07:53] <ajmitch> they were mostly syncs, weren't they?
[07:53] <Rhonda> Yes, some sponsored syncrequests in the early days.
[07:54] <Rhonda> Ah, there was one for irssi recently. Yes, lucid-backports for irssi. :)
[07:55] <Rhonda> And I'm still uncertain about that beep bug. I guess all I can do for it is just document how to enable it prominently, but it's not beep's fault that it doesn't beep anymore when the pcspkr module is blacklisted these days.
[08:04] <Rhonda> I like this one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=184055#5
[08:05] <dholbach> hrw, what do you think about https://code.launchpad.net/~hrw/ubuntu/natty/armel-cross-toolchain-base/1.63/+merge/57852? should it still go into natty (does it qualify for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SRU?) or is it OK to just go into oneiric?
[08:11] <dholbach> hrw, same question about lp:~hrw/ubuntu/natty/gcc-4.4-armel-cross/1.40
[08:12] <dholbach> menesis, should https://code.launchpad.net/~menesis/ubuntu/natty/wsgi-intercept/natty/+merge/58498 still go into natty or is it ok if it just goes into oneiric?
[08:15] <menesis> dholbach: first into oneiric, of course. but would be good to have in natty as well
[08:16] <dholbach> menesis, can you put up a merge proposal for oneiric? I'm happy to review and test it and get it in
[08:17] <menesis> another proposal, or resubmit this one?
[08:17] <hrw> dholbach: I am preparing updates for oneiric
[08:18] <hrw> dholbach: once will get rid of most of lintian complains I will upload
[08:18] <dholbach> hrw, should the changes still get into natty? if not, I'll ask somebody to mark them as irrelevant
[08:18] <dholbach> (irrelevant for natty)
[08:18] <hrw> dholbach: last changes were mostly lintian overrides only so nothing revelant rather
[08:19] <wejaeger> Hey, anyone up for reviewing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn
[08:19] <dholbach> ok, great - thanks, I'll ask somebody to get them off the sponsoring list for natty then
[08:19] <hrw> dholbach: thx
[08:19] <hrw> dholbach: now I can upload armel/armhf cross toolchains on my own ;D
[08:19] <dholbach> nice :)
[08:41] <hrw> yep
[08:41] <hrw> got universe contributor access on uds monday
[08:41] <dholbach> nice
[08:42] <hrw> indeed
[09:07] <geser> hrw: UUC is only for Ubuntu membership (@ubuntu.com), for upload rights you need at least PPU rights
[09:11] <hrw> geser: ok, I was talking with persia during uds - will get ppu for all my 12 packages
[09:12] <geser> ah
[14:40] <Laney> I think exchange has mangled my received sigs :(
[22:31] <scott-work> anyone seen persia lately?
[22:31]  * highvoltage saw him on Friday
[22:32] <Laney> ;-)
[22:33] <highvoltage> and Laney did too :)
[22:33] <Laney> highvoltage: cool pics
[22:34] <highvoltage> yeah, looking at them I realise I should get a better camera next time!
[22:34] <scott-work> highvoltage: oh, you mean at UDS
[22:34] <highvoltage> scott-work: yep
[22:34] <scott-work> i haven't seen him online much in quite a while
[22:34] <directhex> persia is definitely different in real life to what irc implies
[22:34] <Laney> i want to try some of the "black dragon" i got
[22:34] <Laney> scary hungarian booze
[22:35] <thekittster> Hello everyone, if anyone's interested in getting the new mingw-w64 toolchain synced from Debian to Ubuntu I have the missing link
[22:35] <thekittster> I've uploaded a gcc-mingw-w64-bootstrap package to REVU: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gcc-mingw-w64-bootstrap
[22:35] <thekittster> I'd appreciate a review or two ;-)
[22:35] <highvoltage> Laney: I hoped that your message to -motu would get more response
[22:35] <thekittster> The needs-packaging bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-mingw-w64/+bug/783175
[22:36] <Laney> highvoltage: indeed, I had hoped that too
[22:36] <Laney> maybe that confirms things ...
[22:37] <scott-work> directhex: how is that?
[22:38] <directhex> scott-work: i always pictured another random nerd. this is my default picture for random nerds on irc
[22:40] <highvoltage> in my experience motus are hardly ever random nerds
[22:41] <highvoltage> (but persia is indeed more interesting)
[22:42] <directhex> nothing wrong with random nerds
[22:46] <scott-work> highvoltage: i've never seen him and you are killing me with curiosity now :P
[22:49] <highvoltage> ]
[22:50] <highvoltage> scott-work: he's a very friendly, honest and intelligent person. so for me he's the same on irc as irl :)
[22:54] <scott-work> highvoltage: i don't think i can't imagine him other than as you described
[23:13] <aaronr> Hi all. If a package is abandoned upstream by the Debian project, but is still in Ubuntu, what's the process for getting that package a maintainer? The mtop package currently has a 6.5 year old bug in the post-install script: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtop/+bug/77980
[23:17] <arand> aaronr: If it's indeed orphaned in Debian, then likely it will be a matter of someone adopting it, if you care about it, that'd be you ;)
[23:20] <aaronr> Well I don't mind taking it on... if I'm not going to be stepping on any toes by doing so? I'm not an expert at packaging, but I've done a few bits, and happy to learn the bits I don't know.
[23:21] <jtaylor> according to bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595822 upstream is dead
[23:21] <jtaylor> you should then also think about becomming upstream
[23:23] <aaronr> Can someone point me in the direction of some documentation I should read about this sort of thing (both Ubuntu & Debian)? I'm happy to learn, but don't want to ask lots of questions here that are already answered somewhere else. :)
[23:26] <gusnan> aaronr, there is some info here: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
[23:27] <arand> aaronr: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#howto-o : set the status of the bug, upload new version to debian mentors, request sponsorship. Pretty much.
[23:27] <aaronr> awesome. thanks :)