[05:06] <MarkDude> jono - you going to Maker Faire this weekend? What about your lovely wife too?
[05:06] <jono> MarkDude, not sure yet
[05:06] <MarkDude> Ok- I have a few tickets- there will be a few of there for Sat
[05:08] <MarkDude> Oh and in the spirit of humour - I started a rumour that Larry Cafiero was joining your band
[05:08] <MarkDude> http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/2011/05/17/rumor-mill-larry-cafiero-headed-for-omgubuntu-or-a-career-in-music/
[05:09] <MarkDude> He just left Fedora- and has not announced what he was doing - so I speculated
[05:12] <rww> maybe he and mdz are starting a Super Secret Thing
[05:12] <MarkDude> lol
[05:13] <MarkDude> I almost felt bad about OMGubuntu being the butt of the joke- then realized it's OMG
[05:34]  * DarkwingDuck sighs
[05:34] <DarkwingDuck> I'm tired of tailoring Resumes
[05:35] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone want to hire a geeky ex-military guy for a full time job?
[05:35] <DarkwingDuck> I have expirence in Web Dev, Documentation and QA
[05:36] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[05:40] <sn9> documentation is in higher demand
[05:41] <DarkwingDuck> Looking for a job. If anyone knows of anyone looking my resumes are on my site... www.wonderly.com
[05:53] <MarkDude> Put a landing page together?
[05:53] <MarkDude> Throw it out on Twitter
[05:53]  * MarkDude and others will RT it
[05:53] <MarkDude> Get on some podcasts also, IMHO
[05:54] <MarkDude> Contact Ohio Teams ring of fire podcast- and tell them they need you on there talking about KDE
[05:55] <MarkDude> and that paultag will make them an offer they cant refuse if they dont
[05:55]  * MarkDude is suggesting higher visibility is key
[05:57]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[05:57] <DarkwingDuck> I need to "Vacation" to the Bay area to hunt.
[05:57] <DarkwingDuck> That's where the jobs are.
[06:12] <MarkDude> There is hiring going on
[06:13] <MarkDude> If you are ok with being evil- Google is always hiring
[06:14] <MarkDude> Also finding a charity you can demonstrate some of your skills with - works. Like telling people I can write OR actually using my words to do it
[06:14] <MarkDude> Maybe you can throw in some stuff about being a cage fighter on the side
[06:15] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[06:15] <DarkwingDuck> I'm too fat to pass that one off.
[06:15] <rww> now now, Google has very nice people working for it ;P
[06:15]  * MarkDude can photo edit you fighting in a south American wrestling match
[06:15] <rww> it just turns out that when you put a lot of nice people together they get ethically challenged
[06:16] <rww> hence every country ever :\
[06:16] <sn9> google is anti-fat?
[06:17] <MarkDude> El oscuro pato ala is DarkwingDuck is gringo Spanish
[06:18] <sn9> wut
[06:19] <seidos> ala is duck
[06:19] <seidos> duck Allah
[06:19] <seidos> don't give in to hate, that leads to the darkside
[06:19] <seidos> oh, so i was thinking, Obiwan failed.  he should've taken Anakin's bloody stump to his ship
[06:20] <MarkDude> seidos, he could make clones- like all the Fetts
[06:21] <seidos> i guess he rectified it by letting Vader halve him...sorta' kinda'
[06:21] <seidos> MarkDude: clones of Anakin?  haha, sound diabolical
[06:21] <seidos> *s
[06:21] <seidos> or like Palpatine, he was into the cloning in the dark horse comics
[06:22] <MarkDude> There was Boba Fett, jango as well as Floyd
[06:22] <MarkDude> Most folks forget about Floyd fett
[06:22] <seidos> never heard of Floyd fett, was he a crazy diamond?
[06:25]  * MarkDude just made that part up
[06:25] <MarkDude> Always found the name Floyd amusing
[06:25] <seidos> shine on you crazy diamond
[06:27]  * seidos bows to everybody
[06:27] <seidos> night
[06:27] <MarkDude> namaste seidos
[06:34] <DarkwingDuck> Garg, I don't have the education that Google is looking for.
[06:34] <MarkDude> Have you done any talks?
[06:42] <sn9> edumacation?
[06:42] <sn9> they need that?
[06:44] <MarkDude> its highly overated , imho
[06:44] <sn9> they don't ask for it
[19:50] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours edited
[20:55] <iLOVEbees> I Love BEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:56] <rww> okay
[20:58] <akk> Don't move to Marin county. http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_18073434
[21:04] <MarkDude> Bees are good- they keep our food supply working
[21:33] <MarkDude> Does California Team get any free books from O'Reilly?
[21:34] <MarkDude> They are very nice about sending some- They have given some to GK- and other local TEams- we should ask for some
[21:34] <MarkDude> WA Teams request >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam/BookRequests
[21:35] <jtatum> packt and apress also send books to user groups for reviews
[21:36] <MarkDude> Cool thanks jtatum I will put those on my list also
[21:37] <jtatum> great :)
[21:38] <jtatum> jamalta: are you going to UH tonight or tomorrow?
[21:42] <pleia2> jtatum: you're a day off :)
[21:42] <jtatum> right yeah, right
[21:42] <jtatum> sorry migraine :)
[21:42] <pleia2> no fun, hope you feel better!
[21:44] <jtatum> i'm very fortunate to not get the pain.. just feeling odd and colors
[22:15] <jamalta> jtatum: where is it tonight?
[22:15] <jamalta> i thought the Sf one was tomorrow
[22:15] <jtatum> i misspoke :)
[22:15] <jamalta> oh, pleia2 already corrected that
[22:15] <jtatum> tomorrow or thursday :)
[22:16] <jamalta> i'm probably going to end up at the one tomorrow.. i don't think i have anything else planned.
[22:16] <jamalta> are you coming up for it?
[22:17] <jamalta> oh also, i just released this today if any of you android/u1 users want to help test it :) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jamalfanaian.chalk
[22:23] <MarkDude> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam/BookRequests Updated the page with your suggestions jtatum
[22:24]  * MarkDude assumes that I should add this to a meeting and let the talking start- as opposed to just creating a similar page for Cali Team?
[22:25] <jtatum> agenda item sounds good MarkDude - or an email to the list
[22:25] <MarkDude> Ok- I can use the same one I sent to ML in WA- and OR
[22:27] <akk> What's to discuss -- besides where they should send the books?
[22:27] <akk> oh, I guess how to decide who gets them
[22:28] <MarkDude> akk- I agree-
[22:29] <akk> Where to send is kind of a problem, I guess, since we're so spread out.
[22:29] <akk> Nobody's going to want to be charged with re-shipping books.
[22:29]  * MarkDude just triple checks- stuff now- I had suggested we reduce the 3 links to IRC meeting page- there was much to discuss
[22:29] <MarkDude> there are actual logistics here
[22:30]  * akk would be happy with "send them to pleia2 and she'll do something sensible with them"
[22:30] <MarkDude> OR and WA are a bit easier to sort out- Portland for OR is where they get shipped
[22:30] <akk> but that's easier for me to say than for someone in SoCal :)
[22:30] <MarkDude> And Seattle for WA
[22:30]  * MarkDude agrees
[22:30] <MarkDude> The same could be said for DarkwingDuck
[22:35] <pleia2> O'Reilly can ship books directly to people who request the review copies (I spoke with Marsee about this at CLS West, I've known her for years via Philly stuff and she said they were happy to help)
[22:35] <pleia2> apress' program is mediocre, prentice hall just ships books automatically and could be tricky distribution wise since we'd need to reship
[22:36] <pleia2> honestly it might be easier to just hook up these programs into the local lugs instead of the loco
[22:36] <nhaines> pleia2: my talk at the University of Redlands last week was a hit.  They emailed me after and want to pay me an honorarium.  :)
[22:36] <pleia2> nhaines: congrats!
[22:36] <rww> what does "honorarium" mean?
[22:37] <nhaines> rww: it's a stipend for speaking.
[22:37] <rww> cool
[22:37] <akk> penlug is already in O'Reilly's book program, but they're kind of fading as a LUG.
[22:37] <akk> Yay nhaines!
[22:37] <nhaines> "A payment given for professional services that are rendered nominally without charge.", is what Google says.
[22:38] <nhaines> It was a nice surprise.  :)
[22:40] <MarkDude> So you are saying we should NOT do this pleia2 ?
[22:40] <nhaines> At this rate I'll snag a keynote some day!
[22:40] <pleia2> MarkDude: no, I said "it might be easier"
[22:40]  * MarkDude disagrees- Local Teams are short on perks- this can be one of them
[22:40] <MarkDude> congrats nhaines
[22:40] <MarkDude> Ah ok
[22:41] <pleia2> MarkDude: if you're willing to find a way to handle logistics and fees for shipping, please do, but I can't commit to it
[22:41] <MarkDude> Well I volunteer to do the work on it
[22:41] <pleia2> I'm already doing it for the CDs and t-shirts, I can't really take on more
[22:41] <MarkDude> Fair enough
[22:41] <akk> How do keynotes work? Are they usually invited, or do people send keynote proposals like for other conference talks?
[22:42] <pleia2> depends on the conference, but usually invited from what I've seen
[22:42]  * akk is fine with MarkDude handling book logistics, sounds great!
[22:42] <pleia2> for fosscon I was invited with a vague subject, and I followed up the invitation with a fuller proposal for them to review
[22:42] <nhaines> I think some conferences will choose to feature submitted talks, but most keynotes are invited I think.
[22:44] <nhaines> I'm not sure it makes sense for the LoCo to collect books.  The LoCo's never been able to handle swag outside of very limited conference supplies.
[22:46]  * pleia2 eyes two boxes of conference supplies in her office
[22:47] <pleia2> for phillychix books I had a bookshelf, but again that was just one metro area so I met up with people to do borrowing and stuff
[22:47] <MarkDude> akk- I was asked to keynote a conference in AZ- the organizers just came up to me at Scale
[22:47] <nhaines> pleia2: yeah, it makes a lot of sense for a user group.
[22:47]  * MarkDude was unfortunatley able to do it
[22:49] <pleia2> it's so nice when system documentation projects publish epubs
[22:50] <akk> I like epubs now. Before getting an android device, notsomuch.
[22:50] <akk> It's a shame ebook formats are so fragmented, and so poorly supported on linux.
[22:50] <pleia2> yeah, it's the nook that did it for me
[22:53] <MarkDude> Oreilly has Ebooks also- logistics would NOT be an issue there- at least I hope not :)
[22:58] <pleia2> you'd have to look into their policy for ebooks, it might actually be *harder* logistically if multiple copies existing violates license terms
[22:59] <akk> You can still do ebooks the same way as other books -- decides who gets it (typically whoever wants it most) and email it to them, or give them the code or whatever.
[22:59] <pleia2> but this is all speculation, they didn't include ebooks in their lug program when I used it
[22:59]  * MarkDude will get details on this
[22:59] <akk> I've gotten ebooks via the penlug O'Reilly review program.
[22:59] <pleia2> cool
[22:59]  * MarkDude has coupon for FREE ebook- I can PM it akk