[12:47] <rick_h__> https://github.com/skammer/vim-css-color kind of cool
[12:47] <rick_h__> I hit a bug, but not killer
[13:10] <wolfger> rick_h__:  I know you've been waiting for this... http://www.linux-mag.com/id/8705/?hq_e=el&hq_m=1252182&hq_l=10&hq_v=1058112737
[13:12] <rick_h__>    /ignore wolfger
[13:12] <wolfger> LOL
[13:12] <wolfger> harsh
[13:13] <rick_h__> :P
[13:13] <wolfger> If it's on the command line, it's got to be good, right?
[13:15]  * rick_h__ looks at emacs and wonders 
[13:16] <greg-g> you know.....
[13:17] <greg-g> the event listing itself is pretty nice. I wanted something like that a while ago. Something that would allow me to suck out all the events out of FB and put them in my own calendar
[13:17] <greg-g> also, it could be the basis for a FB-backup cronjob script
[13:18] <brousch> wtf. it's a command line program written in php
[13:18] <greg-g> that part is a big wtf
[13:18] <rick_h__> it's what you need to use for facebook apps
[13:18] <greg-g> ahhh
[13:18] <rick_h__> well, it's the most common supported
[13:18] <rick_h__> not suprised at all tbh
[13:19] <greg-g> true true, the apis are there
[13:19] <rick_h__> FB is very PHP orientated and it's much better supported than other languages
[13:20] <brousch> well good, they deserve each other
[13:20] <brousch> facebook and php go together like flies and poop
[13:21] <greg-g> http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[13:21] <rick_h__> greg-g: kind of cool isn't it
[13:21] <rick_h__> JS to rule them all
[13:24] <greg-g> and then you view-source and realize it is proprietary ;)
[13:24] <rick_h__> what do you mean?
[13:25] <rick_h__> in my chrome dev tools I have the option "de-obfucate source"
[13:25] <greg-g> All rights reserved, can't redistribute or modify the code
[13:25] <rick_h__> ah, in the license way
[13:25] <greg-g> its my bailiwick
[13:26] <rick_h__> yea, gotcha
[13:33] <rick_h__> whoa, phpmyadmin upgrade went all jquery-ui ized
[13:34] <wolfger> greg-g: You know, my Android phone auto-sucks calendar events from FB and puts them to my Gcal...
[13:36] <wolfger> ...or mayber I just think it's on my Gcal because I use my phone calendar 90% of the time? But no, I have birthdays on Gcal for people I've never requested birthdays of.
[13:41] <greg-g> wolfger: interesting
[13:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea, you need a phone upgrade so you can use bookie mobile
[13:41] <rick_h__> :P
[13:43] <brousch> no symbian love for greg-g?
[13:44] <greg-g> :) I need a phone upgrade for my own sanity sometimes
[13:44] <rick_h__> well _stink_ tried it in symbian with little love
[13:56] <brousch> rick_h__: oostendorp seems like a nice guy. i didn't know he was involved early on with slashdot
[13:57] <rick_h__> brousch: yea, I didn't know when I first heard/etc.
[13:58] <rick_h__> but funny how small circles the world spins in
[13:58] <jjesse> nate oostendorp?
[13:58] <brousch> yes
[13:58] <jjesse> i've met him before, can't remember where nice guy
[13:58] <brousch> he presented at grpug last night
[13:59] <brousch> he has a lot of holland connections
[13:59] <brousch> went to Hope
[14:00] <greg-g> what do you think of the Ingenuitas idea?
[14:01] <brousch> it is interesting. i have no idea if it's viable
[14:01] <greg-g> yeah
[14:01] <rick_h__> I think they need a new website with some less horrible fonts :P
[14:02] <greg-g> yeah, when I mentioned the font issue he was like "Firefox? who uses that anymore?"
[14:02] <rick_h__> heh, I'm in Chrome
[14:02] <rick_h__> and I still think it's pretty horrible fonts to read
[14:02] <greg-g> maybe it is a Mac vs Linux thing?
[14:03] <rick_h__> meh, he's picked very thin fonts for display
[14:03] <greg-g> but either way, the people who he has to sell the idea to will be running WinXP+IE7
[14:03] <rick_h__> this league-gothic font
[14:03] <rick_h__> I like the glyphish-web bold though
[14:04] <_stink_> hah, the fonts are bad
[14:04] <_stink_> and i'm someone who doesn't care about fonts
[14:04] <rick_h__> lol
[14:08] <greg-g> the fonts being bad are ironic, given it is a computer vision thing
[14:44] <wolfger> Hey, it's Mr. Con Chair 2012, tjagoda!
[14:44] <jjesse> he's the chairman of a convention on conventions?
[14:45] <brousch> it will be a blackberry-centric convention!
[14:45] <brousch> bbpads for all!
[14:45] <wolfger> woot!
[14:45] <tjagoda> ..you're all paying double.
[14:45] <tjagoda> =P
[14:46] <wolfger> It's worth it, to get to harrass you. :-)
[14:47] <wolfger> Allison was talking about you last night. She says you're turning into Jer...
[14:47] <wolfger> I don't know where that came from.
[14:49] <tjagoda> Might have been the series of enraged tweets fueled by the public phonetalker who was in line next to me in subway
[14:50] <tjagoda> Or it's just the slowly accumulating IT frustration venting =P
[15:28] <wolfger> That as a ring to it... "SAIFS: Slowly Accumulating IT Frustration Syndrome"
[15:29] <wolfger> lot of potential wordplays, too. "He's playing it SAIF" or "SAIFty first"
[15:36] <tjagoda> SAIF
[15:36] <tjagoda> That would make an excellent website..
[15:37]  * tjagoda godaddy's
[15:37] <tjagoda> damn
[15:37] <tjagoda> saif.com is taken
[15:37] <tjagoda> =(
[15:40] <tjagoda> SAIF.org is godaddy held though
[15:40] <tjagoda> I will make millions.
[15:40] <tjagoda> And host the site on IIS for irony.
[15:42] <wolfger> LOL
[15:43] <wolfger> You know you must do it.
[15:43] <brousch> iis3 on win98
[15:47] <wolfger> I think that would be for Rapidly Accumulating IT Frustration
[15:47] <wolfger> or, rather, Rapidly Accumulating IT Pain.... RAIP
[15:48] <tjagoda> ESET Smart Security just detected bad broadcom drivers
[15:48] <tjagoda> wow
[15:49] <tjagoda> Their teamed together, and it was able to realize that the driver was letting both MAC addresses show over the network
[15:49] <tjagoda> Nicely done ESET
[15:49] <tjagoda> Symantec didn't even scan for that shit
[15:49] <tjagoda> =P
[16:21] <brousch> http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/17/life-with-ubuntu-and.html "The problem with writing about switching to Ubuntu is that there's very little to report on, because it is just about the least dramatic operating system I've used"
[16:21] <brousch> no drama eh?
[16:30] <tjagoda> He must not be on 11.04 yet
[16:30] <tjagoda> =P
[16:35] <tjagoda> Why did we ever have to move away from gnome 2?
[16:36] <brousch> progress!
[16:37] <tjagoda> There are so many things I miss about gnome 2
[16:37] <tjagoda> I feel like progress shouldn't make me yearn for the old stuff =(
[16:40] <brousch> you are becoming an old man
[16:41] <brousch> the first sign of old age is voluntary use of a blackberry. the second sign is yearning for the good old  days
[16:42] <tjagoda> This saddens me
[16:42] <tjagoda> Symantec has no built-in remote uninstaller
[16:42] <jjesse> what symantec product?
[16:42]  * jjesse is a symantec consultant
[16:43] <tjagoda> Endpoint Protection
[16:43] <tjagoda> v11 I think
[16:44] <jjesse> you want to uninstall via the msi?
[16:44] <jjesse> you should be able to pass msiexec /X (i think it is X to remove)
[16:44] <tjagoda> I was hoping it's convenient deployment console would have a big "uninstall client" option
[16:44] <jjesse> oh
[16:44] <jjesse> i don't think it does
[16:44] <brousch> just ssh in and apt-get uninstall it
[16:44] <tjagoda> It does not
[16:44] <tjagoda> Obvious answer: Why would anybody ever want to leave symantec? =P
[16:45] <jjesse> nice :)
[16:45] <tjagoda> ESET provides it as an option
[16:45] <tjagoda> I can both remotely install and uninstall any version
[16:46] <jjesse> in all wisdom they decided not to i guess :)
[16:46] <tjagoda> \o/
[16:46] <tjagoda> brb reboot
[16:55] <wolfger> LOL. tjagoda sounds like I used to re: KDE3
[16:58] <brousch> rick_h__: i bought that mobile web ebook yesterday too
[17:30] <snap-l> Good afternoon. :)
[17:33] <wolfger> he lives!
[17:40] <snap-l> Heh
[18:16] <rick_h__> no he doesn't, that's my new snap-l bot.
[18:16] <rick_h__> works well doesn't it :)
[18:16] <jjesse> just as good as snap-l does
[18:18] <wolfger> Let me test it...
[18:18] <wolfger> seatbelts suck
[18:18] <wolfger> Nickleback rules!
[18:18] <wolfger> everything should be programmed in Java
[18:18] <rick_h__> crap, you caused it to crash
[18:18] <rick_h__> I'll have to reboot it now
[18:18] <wolfger> XD
[18:30] <snap-l> Good morning
[18:30] <rick_h__> there we go, reboot worked
[18:31] <snap-l> So, how about that [Javascript Linux emulator]
[18:31] <rick_h__> meh, I could go better :P
[18:31] <snap-l> That looks [really cool]
[18:32] <snap-l> I just picked up [Diablo Swing Orchestra] on [CD], and it is awesome.
[18:32] <snap-l> Listen to my podcast [http://openmetalcast.com]
[18:33] <snap-l> Nickelback sucks
[18:34] <rick_h__> so how was the trip?
[18:34] <greg-g> and now it is gone :( http://www.archive.org/details/XavierRudd
[18:35] <rick_h__> :(
[18:35] <rick_h__> poor greg-g
[18:35] <rick_h__> so what's up with the removal? I've not really followed archive.org and such
[18:35] <greg-g> luckily I download 8 shows last night, but still :(
[18:36] <snap-l> greg-g: That's crap
[18:36] <snap-l> rick_h__: It was very good. Relaxing. :)
[18:36] <snap-l> Had a great time, got to do some sight-seeing
[18:36] <snap-l> saw the cass river rising, and taking lots of driftwood
[18:36] <rick_h__> yea, some good pics came back
[18:36] <snap-l> and had much beer and gin & tonics. ;)
[18:36] <greg-g> well, the long and the short: Xavier Rudd is a jam-band kinda musician. His fans started tapping his shows, and archive.org has a "Live Music Archive" section for live recordings from musicians who allow it. Xavier's old management did. Yesterday his new management revoked the permission, so everything was deleted, even though at the time it was fine.
[18:37] <rick_h__> ah ic
[18:37] <rick_h__> sucky
[18:37] <snap-l> greg-g: It's their wishes.
[18:37] <greg-g> yeah, a blog post is forthcoming
[18:37] <snap-l> Unfortunately, it's contradictory to the ethos of the scene
[18:37] <snap-l> even Primus doesn't have a problem with tapers.
[18:38] <greg-g> wow
[18:38] <snap-l> Along with Medeski, Martin and Wood, Ozric Tentacles...
[18:38] <snap-l> at least, when I was following Legal Torrents, they didn't
[18:39]  * greg-g nods
[18:39] <snap-l> Of course, there was also a shit-ton more String Cheese Incident than anything
[18:39] <snap-l> blergh
[18:39] <greg-g> haha
[18:39] <greg-g> the price we pay
[18:39] <snap-l> Yeah, much like the Free Music Archive metal section
[18:40] <snap-l> Really need a "you must not be this high to submit your music"
[18:42] <snap-l> I'm having a discussion with a band about their next album not being released CC licensed.
[18:42] <snap-l> trying to convince them that CC != free of cost.
[18:43] <snap-l> There's still some work to do in that regard with artists.
[18:45]  * greg-g nods
[19:23] <wolfger> CNN hurts my brain.
[19:23] <snap-l> News reporting in general hurts by brain
[19:23] <wolfger> I did not really need to know that Schwarzenegar's love child is the most popular story right now
[19:24] <snap-l> I think they went from an 8th grade level to a 3rd grade level in the past few years.
[19:24] <snap-l> wolfger: Did they get the Twitter's reaction?
[19:24] <wolfger> also, the news of Seth McFarlane "rebooting" The Flintstones.... nothing good can come of that.
[19:24] <wolfger> snap-l: they may have. I'm avoiding the story
[19:24]  * snap-l gets my gun.
[19:25] <wolfger> especially now that I see it's #1 on "newspulse"
[19:25] <snap-l> Rebooting the Flintstones? Seriously?
[19:25] <wolfger> seriously
[19:25] <wolfger> that story I did read
[19:25] <wolfger> because I was hoping the headline was misleading
[19:25] <snap-l> Wel, that's one more fuck-fest of a show that I won't watch.
[19:27] <wolfger> I still don't know how Seth got two more shows after the inconsistent mess that The Family Guy was/is
[19:27] <rick_h__> http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?lid=4984247,2147714,1850147&auto
[19:27] <snap-l> I mean, I'm not much of a fan of the Flinstones to begin with, but frankly Seth McFarlane is not funny
[19:27] <wolfger> I watch Family Guy from time to time, to pick little nuggets of brilliance out of the feces.
[19:28] <snap-l> randomness != funny
[19:28] <wolfger> but it's rare that one entire episode is funny
[19:28] <snap-l> wolfger: That's like picking up horseshit to get a bale of hay.
[19:28] <snap-l> rick_h__: Nice!
[19:28] <rick_h__> except the star wars...those are some funny things
[19:29] <brousch> screw you guys. i love family guy and american dad, and i even watch cleveland
[19:29] <snap-l> brousch: How was the lobotomy?
[19:30] <snap-l> To be fair, it does have it's moments
[19:30] <snap-l> but most of the time I've watched it, I've come to agree with South Park's assessment
[19:30] <snap-l> manatee's and all.
[19:31] <snap-l> I know Neil Peart likes it, so it can't be all that bad. ;)
[19:31] <jjesse> brousch you maybe the only one i know who likes cleveland show
[19:31] <wolfger> rick_h__: that site is crap. I mean, brilliant concept... but if it can't find a fairly major city (i.e. Stuttgart, Germany) it's useless
[19:31] <jjesse> i do feel you have to pick the crap out of the good
[19:31] <snap-l> It has UTC. IT's useful.
[19:32] <wolfger> Hah! It can't even find Detroit, MI
[19:32] <wolfger> At last, Detroit's irrelevence is complete
[19:33] <brousch> i need mindless TV before i go to bed to help me unwind
[19:33] <snap-l> When I left you, you were a metropolis, now you're 750,000
[19:33] <Milyardo> Detriot? Never heard of it!
[19:33] <brousch> de-troit? is that in france?
[19:34] <Milyardo> 750k? That sounds alot better than what happened to Baltimore
[19:34] <snap-l> I don't remember the last count
[19:34] <snap-l> but let's just say, the census folks were getting prodded pretty hard to get accurate counts.
[19:35] <wolfger> oh, odd. If I type Detroit, it finds it. If I type Michigan, it lists Detroit. If I type Detroit, Michigan.... nothing
[19:36] <snap-l> Didn't you hear? The US returned Detroit to Canada as defective.
[19:36] <wolfger> nice website with a crap search feature, and a list of cities that needs help
[19:36] <snap-l> wolfger: Settle down, Beavis.
[19:37] <wolfger> Fire. Fire, fire. Fire!
[19:37] <wolfger> sorry. I'm bored and quite tired
[19:37] <snap-l> 's OK.
[21:35] <brousch> ug, osx is annoying me with python dev stuff. i really need to get back to ubuntu
[21:50] <wolfger> http://d.pr/JONs
[22:00] <snap-l> wolfger: That MMD
[22:49] <snap-l> rick_h__: Did you know you show up as Anonymous in my GOogle reader?
[23:01] <greg-g> IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
[23:02] <greg-g> rick_h__ == Anonymous !!!
[23:15] <rick_h__> bwuhahahahaha
[23:17] <rick_h__> snap-l: so how do I show up like that? I've actually not been doing much sharing recently