[00:02] <Cheri703> confession: I am far too amused by the domino's pizza tracker...
[00:05] <canthus13> em: I'm creeped out by it.
[00:05] <canthus13> If it actually tracks drivers, you can deduce about how much cash the driver is carrying....
[00:19] <Cheri703> it doesn't track drivers, it tracks pizza preparation
[00:20] <Cheri703> though it hasn't moved for a while, so I'm doubting its accuracy
[00:28] <Cheri703> grr...originally it said 25-35 minutes (on the ordering page) and the thing just said it was put in the oven 5 minutes ago (which was at the 25 minute mark)...so unless it gets here in the next 7 minutes, I'm going to be annoyed
[00:28]  * Cheri703 is hongreh
[00:45] <jgould> Damn AEP
[01:13] <Cheri703> happy tummy, ate dinner :)
[01:17] <canthus13> Whee... Linux malware kits are on the way.
[01:18] <canthus13> should be easy enough to grab someone's admin password.  pop up an update 'window' on a web page that looks right.  When you click update and enter your password, they've got ya.
[01:21] <TheErk> Greetings Programs!
[01:23] <Cheri703> hola TheErk
[01:23] <TheErk> Cheri
[01:25]  * jgould grumbles
[01:25] <canthus13> eh?
[01:26] <jgould> I hate AEP
[01:27] <jgould> They finally turned our power back on and I've been running around for an hour trying to get things working again...
[01:27] <jgould> Also, my trackpad is driving me crazy
[01:28] <dmcglone1> whats up everyone
[01:33] <Cheri703> not a ton
[01:33] <Cheri703> getting used to quassel
[01:33] <Cheri703> and watching army wives :D hehe yes, I'm being a girl at the moment
[01:35] <dmcglone1> I'm installing Kopete right now, empathy is just crap
[01:35] <dmcglone1> I'm looking for a client that supports google talk, IRC, AIM and Yahoo
[01:36] <Cheri703> pidgin
[01:38] <dmcglone1> I didn't think it supported google talk :-/ Maybe I was wrong
[01:39] <dmcglone1> Yeah, it doesn't support video chat
[01:39] <Cheri703> I think it does
[01:39] <jgould> Gah! Where is all of this lag coming from?
[01:40] <dmcglone1> couple months ago, I tried and I read somewhere they don't plan on integrating video chat into it
[01:40] <Cheri703> hmm...hang on
[01:41] <Cheri703> I'm 90% sure it's supported
[01:41] <TheErk> What is wrong with Empathy?
[01:43] <jgould> I'm going to go get dinner... I'll be back
[01:45] <dmcglone1> when I sign on, it will not let me into an IRC room until I quit empathy and start again, also if I resize the window and type sentences long  than the window the window just grows and grows and grows unless I hit ctrl + enter to start a new line
[01:46] <dmcglone1> In short, it's just plain crappy to use
[01:47] <jrgifford> .join #ubuntu-forrst
[01:48] <dmcglone1> and my  hunch about kopete was right, it doesn't support IRC yet! grrrrrr
[01:48] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: technically it does support it, it's iffy though (video)
[01:49] <dmcglone1> it's bad :-/
[01:52] <Cheri703> I use the in-browser chat on my gmail page if I need video/audio
[01:52] <Cheri703> it's just easier than trying to have a client that supports it natively
[01:53] <dmcglone1> empathy does a darn good job at it, I'm just fed up with it's quirks. I guess I'll have to learn to live with them
[01:54] <dmcglone1> I can't stand having 50 m‎illion things in 50 million places, I guess I'm just as quirky as empathy :-)
[02:29] <jgould> I wish I could figure out how to switch audio devices when I want my USB headset to work rather than the internal stuff on my MacBook
[02:31] <jgould> Really?  the AEP supervisor works in Oklahoma?
[02:47] <Cheri703> jgould: open up the sound settings
[02:47] <Cheri703> input tab
[02:47] <Cheri703> you can change it there
[02:49] <jgould> I'm runnign Lubuntu... I'll have to find that
[02:55] <Cheri703> ah, k
[02:55] <jgould> I hate AEP
[02:59] <jgould> they have a monoply, and apparently the utilities indrusty is the only indrusty still allowed to have them...
[03:06] <jgould> ok... so I'm about to nix Lubuntu and go back to Xubuntu. (I'm indecisive...  Maybe I'm really a female... ;))
[03:11] <canthus13> jgould: Careful... Cheri703 might tear your lungs out for that comment... :)
[03:11] <Cheri703> ha, some of the most indecisive people I know are men
[03:11] <jgould> I didn't mean it in a bad way. Heh.
[03:12] <jgould> I think men are actually worse than women
[03:12] <Cheri703> and heck, if you're so indecisive you don't know if you're male or female, that sounds like an incredibly specific problem ;D
[03:12] <jgould> (see I can redeem my self)
[03:12] <jgould> LOL Cheri703
[03:15] <Cheri703> :D
[03:16] <jgould> Perhaps I should show up at UH in a skirt... XD
[03:16] <Cheri703> that is 100% up to you...
[03:16] <jgould> There is no way I'm the only transgendered Ubunter. :)
[03:16] <Cheri703> anyone of any persuasion or style of dress (barring random body parts hanging out that no one wants to see) is welcome at least at the mansfield ones :)
[03:16] <Cheri703> absolutely not jgould
[03:17] <Cheri703> there are lots of folks of various persuasions
[03:17]  * canthus13 hangs an elbow out...
[03:17] <Cheri703> EW GROSS canthus13!! YOU PERV
[03:18] <jgould> I wouldn't have anything hanging out
[03:18] <Cheri703> hehe, jgould you just reminded me of a line from some movie "how do you guys manage the tuck?!" "oh honey, ice cubes and tape"
[03:18] <canthus13> Cheri703: Eh? Have some respect! It's incredibly difficult to bend myself into a position like this!
[03:19] <jgould> Heh
[03:20] <jgould> I miss my polo that had Tux on it
[03:20] <jgould> I need to get a new one
[03:21] <jgould> is there not a traceroute for ipv4 anymore?
[03:32] <Cheri703> So I think I'm going to buy a nook...just waiting to hear what the announcement on may 24 might be...and decide whether to wait for whatever it might be, or pull the trigger on the one that's been around since 2009
[03:41] <jgould> I have a Sony PRS-505
[03:42] <jgould> Hmm... Where did I put my Xubuntu disk...
[03:42]  * BiosElement waves randomly
[03:42] <BiosElement> Home in one piece Cheri703?
[03:43]  * jgould installs BiosElement
[03:43] <Cheri703> yep yep BiosElement
[03:43] <Cheri703> jgould: do you like your sony one?
[03:44] <jgould> I do.  I don't use it as much as I once did.  check out the software called calbire (It's in the repos) for ebook management
[03:47] <jgould> sudo apt-get insall BiosElement
[03:48] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:49] <canthus13> jgould: E: Invalid operation insall
[03:50] <jgould> XD
[03:50] <jgould> What the hell did I do with my Xubuntu install disk...
[03:50] <jgould> I hate it wehn I don't put things back where they go...
[03:53] <Cheri703> yeah jgould I plan to check out/use calibre
[03:54] <Cheri703> I'm hoping the new announcement is a new e-ink model
[03:54] <jgould> Ok,  the window systems on teh Mac Mini are fubared... but I'm not sure if that's becasue of something I did, or if it's from the sudden power off earlier
[03:54] <Cheri703> (also, apologies for delays in responses, still getting used to quassel, and it lacks a certain notification setting I'm used to from xchat)
[03:54] <jgould> I've never gotten xchat to work with the Ubuntu servers...
[04:02] <Cheri703> gordon ramsey is such a sadist :) this episode of kitchen nightmares from 2 weeks ago had these 2 chunky twins boxing each other :D they're seriously real life tweedledee and tweedledum
[04:05] <jgould> Heh
[04:05]  * Unit193 is too lazy to read up...
[04:05] <Unit193> Hello all!
[04:05] <jgould> Hello
[04:06] <Cheri703> hey Unit193
[04:07]  * Unit193 didn't know he was going to be a pallbearer 'til he got there...
[04:38] <jgould> I've had that happen, Unit193
[04:46] <jgould> Hmm...  Any one know of software that will read .CR2 files from a Canon DSLR?
[04:48] <canthus13> jgould: http://platonic.techfiz.info/2010/11/10/cr2-canon-raw-file-management-in-ubuntu/
[05:07] <jgould> Hmmm... I may need to do a reinstall on the Mini
[05:08] <Cheri703> calibre is pretty cool
[05:08] <Cheri703> I was poking at it
[05:08] <Unit193> jgould: MacBookPro (7,1 or 7,3) is what my cousin had
[05:08] <Unit193> s/had/has
[05:10] <jgould> the 7,1's *should* be stable now
[05:10] <jgould> yes, Calibre is pretty cool.  I think the interface needs some polishing thoguh
[05:11] <Cheri703> yeah...there are tutorial videos on their website, which is pretty cool
[05:12]  * jgould is indecisive again...
[05:13] <Cheri703> just reach down and check, it'll help you remember ;)
[05:13] <jgould> XD
[05:13] <Unit193> He really liked Lubuntu LiveCD (Will show him the rest next time I'm there -Unity)
[05:14] <jgould> The 'start' menu in Unity reminds me of the Applications stack in MacOS 10.5 and higher
[05:15] <jgould> Unit193: Now I'm back to Ubuntu...
[05:15] <Unit193> That's sad ;) Did you ever take a look at MacUbuntu?
[05:15] <Unit193> If it's working better....
[05:16]  * jgould feels steam coming out of his left ear.
[05:16] <jgould> There's a MacUbuntu?  Does the GUI look like Aqua?
[05:18] <Unit193> It's more of a script: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/make-ubuntu-look-like-mac-osx-in.html
[05:19] <Unit193> http://sourceforge.net/projects/macbuntu/ <-- seems to be the main download
[05:19] <jgould> I'm not in a position where I can browse the interwebs
[05:19] <Unit193> Ah! It's also only for 10.10/04
[05:20] <Unit193> It kinda has the Mac OSX look...
[05:21] <jgould> I can do without the look.  (part of the reason for migrating...)
[05:25] <jgould> Hmmm.... I want some coffee
[05:27] <jgould> I still wish I could get rid of Plymouth and actually watch my systems boot...
[05:32] <canthus13> jgould: ctrl-alt-left arrow gives you boot progress.
[05:33] <jgould> It really doesn't show much when it boots, does it?
[05:34] <jgould> I remember the 2.2 kernels that would just blow you away with the amount of info displayed
[05:35] <jgould> Heh.  I really need to burn a new Ubuntu disk...  This natty disk is listed as "Ubuntu natty (development branch)"
[05:37] <canthus13> jgould: All the boot info is in dmesg.
[05:38] <canthus13> The only time I cared about boot messages is when the machine froze... and I haven't had that happen in a long time.
[05:38] <jgould> I'm just missing the old days...
[05:38] <canthus13> Now that I think about it, my debian servers display everything, but there's not a huge amount.
[05:39] <jgould> My server displays...  I'm not sure
[05:40] <canthus13> thumb drives are better for install media. no need for coasters laying all over the place.
[05:41] <jgould> I can't get my MacBook Pro to boot off a thumbdrive...
[05:42] <canthus13> Ah.
[05:42] <canthus13> how stupid.
[05:42] <jgould> not sure why, but it can't.  My old MacBook, the MacBook Air, and the MacBook Pro 7,1 that I had all could
[05:47] <jgould> I'm not sure how I feel about Apple shipping OS 10.7 via the App Store..
[05:55] <jgould> Ok,  the neighbor needs to turn off the shit
[06:01] <Cheri703> our annoying neighbors finally moved out \o/
[06:01] <jgould> This guy sometimes will play his music too loud
[06:02] <jgould> hmm... Once this download is done, I'm going to have to reboot from the command line
[06:14] <jgould> Hmm
[06:16] <jgould> wow... I really have issues
[06:17] <oda> riveting tale chap
[06:18]  * canthus13 staples oda's lower lip to his left elbow.
[06:19]  * oda becomes a bear
[06:20] <oda> fuck this crossword puzzle
[06:20] <jgould> wow
[06:20] <canthus13> oda: watch out for paper cuts.
[06:20] <jgould> I wonder why I can't write to  mounted nfs export... (it's moutned rw)
[06:23] <jgould> I've always been a fan of wordsearches my self
[06:24]  * oda has alzheimers and stuff
[06:25]  * jgould decides he has too many bookmarks
[06:26] <jgould> lets see, an hour ago, I said I wanted coffee.  I still haven't gotten any
[06:26] <oda> TOO MANY MEN, TOO MANY PEOPLE, MAKIN TOO MANY PROOOBLEMS
[06:26]  * jgould blinks
[06:27] <canthus13> oda: aww.. you've got man problems?
[06:27] <oda> +canthus13, phil collins motherfucker
[06:27] <canthus13> Heh.
[06:27] <oda> "Land of confusion"
[06:28] <oda> listen to it
[06:29]  * Cheri703 has errands to do tomorrow, but meh
[06:30] <jgould> I know that feeling, Cheri703
[06:38] <jgould> Hmm... Appearently the Mini can't boot from USB either...
[06:40] <oda> jgould: dell mini?
[06:41] <oda> jgould: I installed from an SD card on the EEE 1005ha
[06:44] <jgould> Mac Mini
[06:45] <oda> oh
[06:45] <oda> enough said
[06:47] <jgould> The Mini is more fully suppported than my MacBook...
[06:50] <Unit193> I take it you looked at the mactel page?
[06:50] <jgould> The mactel-support ppa?
[06:52] <Unit193> What version?
[06:53] <jgould> of mac Mini?
[06:53] <jgould> it's a 2,1
[06:56] <jgould> it's either the mini can't boot from USB or the Thumbdrive isn't bootable
[07:06] <jgould> Who was that?
[07:09] <jgould> Gah.  Hungry
[07:12] <jgould> And now i'm talking to my self again...
[07:13] <Unit193> You seem to do that quite a bit... :D
[07:14] <jgould> Only because no one answers me!
[07:14] <jgould> LOL
[07:15]  * Unit193 still hasn't booted it on a Mac :)
[07:16] <jgould> what haven't you booted on a mac?
[07:17] <Unit193> *buntu
[07:18] <jgould> I have it booting on two Macs. :P
[07:35]  * jgould debates on setting up evolution to send and receive his email
[07:42] <Unit193> No T-bird? ;)
[07:46] <jgould> Not yet.  The Mrs. and I are going to go get soemthing to eat...
[08:54] <jgould> I'm back
[09:01] <jgould> it's almost as if I never left
[13:45] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[16:37]  * jgould wanders in
[16:44] <Derath-Srvr> hey
[16:45] <J21> Howdy Derath-Srvr , jgould
[16:51] <jgould> 'Ello
[16:51]  * jgould ponders going back to bed
[16:52] <dniMretsaM> hi guys
[16:52] <Derath-Srvr> hi mm
[16:53] <dniMretsaM> sup?
[16:53] <Derath-Srvr> not much, you?
[16:54] <dniMretsaM> same
[17:03] <dniMretsaM> I'm out
[18:53] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[18:55] <Derath-Srvr> Hey freak
[18:55] <canthus13> herro.
[18:56] <Unit193> Howdy thafreak
[19:00] <Cheri703> canthus13: sully is on his way
[19:02] <canthus13> Yay!
[19:21] <jgould> Ok, I'm back and awake now
[19:21] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[19:21] <jgould> thank you
[19:21] <Derath-Srvr> freak: taking a closer look at python now... not sure what all I would do with it, but it is really interesting
[19:23] <jgould> be careful, the python will bite
[19:23] <Derath-Srvr> lol With an infectous bite?
[19:24] <jgould> yes
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> Just looked at the ConfigParser library, it's definitely got some REALLY useful options in there...
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> May have to start tinkering...
[19:25] <deejoe> I tell you what you're going to do with it:  Learn to be very careful of your whitespace, if you aren't already ;-)
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> Just one problem really, would have to convince work and clients to use/install python lol
[19:25]  * jgould knows not how to program
[19:26] <deejoe> jgould: you'd be surprised
[19:26] <Derath-Srvr> Deejoe: Already there... drives me nuts looking at other people's C/++/Java and seeing the lack of indents...
[19:26] <jgould> why do you say that, Derath-Srvr
[19:26] <Derath-Srvr> jgould: Python is easy enough to learn
[19:26] <jgould> er deejoe
[19:26] <deejoe> the only thing I've worked with that is more picky about whitespace is git
[19:27] <deejoe> jgould: I take a pretty liberal view of what constitutes "knowing how to program," at least for someone who has an interest in it.
[19:27] <deejoe> if it's "don't know/don't care" then forget you ;-)
[19:28] <deejoe> so, if you have an interest, I suspect you already are on your way to programming, or could be.
[19:28] <Derath-Srvr> looking for some non-indented code online to show difference...
[19:29] <jgould> I can skim source code and look at it and figure some of it out, but not most of it.
[19:29] <deejoe> well, there you go
[19:29] <deejoe> that is as respectable start as any
[19:29]  * Derath-Srvr is a better editor/debugger than builder anyways...
[19:30] <deejoe> takes all kinds
[19:30]  * deejoe finally got around to installing Scratch on a few machines to play with
[19:30] <Derath-Srvr> Here's a good indented, still looking for non... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style
[19:30] <deejoe> now that the kid is reading, it's a decent time to get started on that
[19:31] <Derath-Srvr> Second post: http://www.vbforums.com/archive/index.php/t-126099.html
[19:31] <Derath-Srvr> err third rather
[19:32] <thafreak> Derath-Srvr: python is usually almost everywhere amazingly...
[19:32] <thafreak> Hell, I've even found python pre-installed on windows machines
[19:32] <deejoe> Derath-Srvr: oh, you mean the big long wall-of-text one?
[19:32] <Derath-Srvr> YYeah... the wall of text lol
[19:32] <Derath-Srvr> Without indenting, it's hard as heck to read...
[19:32] <deejoe> not to be compared to the Phil Spector Wall of Sound
[19:33] <jgould> Indeted is far easier to read
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> freak: So I've seen, but I doubt that it would be installed on the servers, which is where I would be using it for...
[19:33] <deejoe> Derath-Srvr: imagine my pain logging in to a server and finding someone has their Dreamweaver set to use old-school Mac line endings.
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> jgould: Python relies HEAVILY on it being indented...
[19:33] <deejoe> so, not only no indenting, but no fracking line breaks
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> deejoe: Ouch
[19:33] <deejoe> s/\r/\n/g to the max
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:34] <jgould> Derath-Srvr: Python is on my Ubuntu 10.04 server install.  (Doesn't everyone use Ubuntu on their servers? :))
[19:34] <deejoe> Debian, mang
[19:34] <Derath-Srvr> lol Not in my job... We do have a decent mix of Win/AIX/Solaris/RHEL systems though
[19:35] <thafreak> RHEL has *OLD* python though
[19:36] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah it does... that's just one of the many problems tho...
[19:36] <jgould> The company I work for is almost exclusivly windows...  They don't know any diffrent...
[19:36] <Derath-Srvr> AIX, Solaris, and the Win systems don't have Python...
[19:36] <thafreak> I avoid companies that use windows :)
[19:37]  * Derath-Srvr sighs
[19:37] <Derath-Srvr> Didn't have much of a choice here
[19:37] <thafreak> check out ipython
[19:37] <thafreak> it's a slick interactive python shell
[19:37] <jgould> If they'd move the propiitary database to somethaing that had a web interface, we *could* use any clients...
[19:37] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah I was noticing a lot of the tools
[19:40] <Derath-Srvr> My work does make use of ini files, so that's why I was looking at the configparser
[19:41] <Derath-Srvr> Even better since I can read that in and assign variable names and values...
[19:45] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, just foudn out that we do use python decently in our environment... just hard to implement in client environments
[19:49] <jgould> Derath-Srvr: I agree with the fourm topic of that non indented page you linked to.  I can think of a few others that need to be shot as well
[19:50] <Derath-Srvr> Exactly, I've ran across a bunch of files that I've had to re-edit to fix up the indents (html, xml, c, java) because it drives me insane...
[19:52] <jgould> My wife was having a problem with her screen reader reading a part of a web page.  I pulled the code on the page and read through it.  found waht I thought to be the problem had it fixed, and it didn't fix it... (It was a JAWS/FF/HTML5 issue)
[19:54] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah, can't say that many webpages are ever "accessible-friendly"
[19:54] <jgould> Pure text is! Heh
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> And aside from the irc logs and newsgroups/mailing lists archives, how many sites are using plain text? lol
[19:56] <jgould> Not many... Heh
[19:56] <Derath-Srvr> I can't imagine how a screen reader handles frames and all
[19:57] <jgould> The Mrs. "Frames are doable." (I think that should be read as "A Royal pain in the ass")
[19:57] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:58] <Derath-Srvr> sigh and speaking of reading, I've got a support guy that doesn't finish reading the friggin email I sent him...
[19:58] <jgould> Is Endevour the shuttle that just launched
[19:58] <deejoe> Endeavour, yeah.  Yesterday.
[19:58] <jgould> Maybe you need to indent your email..  ;)
[19:58] <canthus13> Check Nasa's site.
[19:59] <Derath-Srvr> Me: "I have data and timeframe of problem, please advise how to get a 40mb file to you", reply: "Thanks for the info, but we do not have data for that date, please run these reports and get back with us" <all paraphrased of course>
[20:00] <jgould> I found the shuttle tribute posters that hang on the wall of Firing Room 4 at Kennedy.  I put the proper poster up wehn a shuttle goes up
[20:00] <jgould> The repsonse had nothing to do with the original issue.  Nice
[20:01] <Derath-Srvr> Ya know, I thought they had stopped all the shuttle flights...
[20:01] <jgould> Nope.  Alantis is being turned around now. That will be the last flight
[20:02] <Derath-Srvr> Can't believe we didn't get a friggin shuttle... BIRTHPLACE OF AVIATION ANYONE??? HELLO? Wouldn't have spaceflight if we COULDN'T FRIGGIN FLY!
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[20:03] <jgould> I know
[20:03] <jgould> We should have gotten *one* of the birds...
[20:03] <Derath-Srvr> Oh wait, we got the "training console" lol
[20:04] <jgould> we should have gotten a complete bird.  where was the training console from?
[20:04] <Derath-Srvr> dunno...
[20:06] <jgould> you guys heard about the guy that fell from the pad before Discovery's launch, right?
[20:06] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[20:06] <scooter2> Hi! I'm planning on going to 11.04 and messing with my partitions today. Should I be backing up anything in addition to my home folder?
[20:06] <deejoe> yes?
[20:06] <jgould> config files
[20:06] <jgould> He didn't fall...
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> scooter: /home, /etc, and trying to think of where the apt-cache is stored...
[20:07] <jgould> /var/cache/apt/cache (I think)
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> Maybe someone can refresh me: create a list of installed packages, so that you can easily apt-get install from the list?
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> There was a handy one-liner command to do that...
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> dpkg --set-selections < installed-software
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> dselect
[20:08] <jgould> dpkg -l will create a list, but it's nto usable for that
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> There, those three lines will help to reinstall the packages you currently have (if you have to fresh install)
[20:09] <scooter2> Cool. Thanks!
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> Also, this page for the same, newer version tho
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> http://www.cpuug.org/index.php?topic=219.0
[20:10] <jgould> Lets see you do that with windows or Mac OS
[20:11] <Derath-Srvr> lol yeah
[20:12] <jgould> I'm hungry
[20:12] <jgould> Heh: "Print test page?" Optons are Cancel or Print.  Cancel doesn't do anything... You can only print... Heh
[20:14] <jgould> I need a new job
[20:15] <jgould> Anyone know what you can do with the 'add a remote daap server' feature in Banshee?
[20:16] <deejoe> haha, simple machines
[20:17] <deejoe> oh, U as in Unix, not U as in Ubuntu
[20:19] <jgould> Heh
[20:21] <jgould> Any one know where the switch is to turn the heat back on outside?
[20:22] <jgould> is that like 'sudo apt-get install outside-heat'
[20:26] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:29] <jgould> It's too cold out to be half way thorugh may...
[20:32] <deejoe> OH YEAH WELL IF GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL WHY IS IT SO RAINY
[20:32] <deejoe> oh, wait . . .
[20:33] <Derath-Srvr> Don't you mean "What's all this bother about global warming? It's far from warm here!"
[20:34] <deejoe> that too
[20:34] <deejoe> also, keep government out of my social security, kthx
[20:34] <jgould> I know that, deejoe.  Dealing with the SSA is a PITA
[20:37] <deejoe> heh
[20:37] <deejoe> not nearly as hard to deal with as if it didn't exist, I'll warrant
[20:42] <jgould> My wife and I are currently involved in a fight with the for benefits...
[20:43] <jgould> +m
[20:46] <jgould> brb...  taking a shower
[20:59] <jgould> what the hell...
[20:59] <jgould> lawn guys
[21:02] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[21:08] <jgould> they are cutting the grass...  I heard them drop the ramps on teh trailer
[21:10] <jgould> sudo apt-get purge current-rainfall
[21:11] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:12] <jgould> I tried
[21:27] <deejoe> SUMMON: SUNNY WEATHER
[21:35] <Derath-Srvr> You rolled a 1.
[23:12] <jgould> Hmmm... I wonder if Panera is blocking IRC... (or ports higher than a certian port number...
[23:16] <jgould> It's when I'm trying to do things and keep bumping the trackpad and it clicks, that I think about switching back to the Mac OS
[23:36] <TheErk> Hola
[23:59] <jgould> Hola